(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'll get to call that "art for the snake of art" - fixed it for you :D
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: well, I enjoyed functional programming so I can see the appeal but seriously now, what's wrong with doing something ...useful too, hm?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: what's your daily use of computers about? (ie what do you do with them?)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: what do you want to do with Lambda Calculus that you are studying that and similar?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: don't fall for the "recluse" and "working alone against the evil world" or something like that, it's not worth it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I get it, it's very "cool" and hacky and good ole' green on black, sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: it's not a good one for interacting with people and *most* of the benefit of having a blog/writing publicly is exactly the interaction with people
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cool, thanks.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: do you mind if I ask you how old you are?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but then choose centos 6 so you have reasonable versions of everything or it'll be a huge pain.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: iirc some providers even have profiles for VM ie you can get it directly with php and apache and mysql installed so you need only stand up mpwp
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re blog, the way it goes whether you find it "straightforward" or not is to get yourself a server (even if it's a cheap virtual machine only, to start with), install mpwp above and then get going; there are a few guides around to help you along, you can ask and people will help, it should be doable.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: and what does that mean more precisely? lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: an ethusiastic gambler?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: eh, don't beat your questions up right from the start, let them grow first :))
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: how are you with computers, if you don't mind me asking?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hmmm, that straightforward part is not-all-that-well defined, as it depends on what you find straightforward
(ossasepia) diana_coman: don't be shy, it's not to your advantage really; and there's nothing to lose for speaking publicly, quite the opposite.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: eh, that's never true, you know? look here, you *are* saying something publicly, you know?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: why private ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: knowing stuff even about shit and shitholes can still have its uses even if it's indeed not a very pleasant way to spend one's time, sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: do you have a blog?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: heh, I actually did a brief dive into dev.to at some point - it saved at least one person
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: did I answer more than you asked for? lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: take your time.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: DKordic: what are you interested in?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh, that would be asciilifeform's blog!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what did you read/like?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: oh hey, nice to hear that!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what brings you here, DKordic ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hello DKordic
(ossasepia) diana_coman: fwiw the switch to diana was mainly to spare the English going red in the face trying but failing to pronounce irina; at least for diana they have some reasonable idea that works.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: what languages do you speak ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: coman is quite easy/as it seems really - as long as you don't introduce in there any spurious l (colman) or the like (as English-speakers seem to be sorely tempted to do); hah, there's even a youtube on it, look at that, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5NT0oC_oxY
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: thanks; and heh, you should prolly wonder how to properly pronounce even the first if you are after properly pronouncing, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: thanks.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as I finally realise that there are a few names I don't even know: lobbes, what's the J in ejb for? dorion_road, what's the M in rmd for?
(trilema) diana_coman: quite possibly, I can see it.
(trilema) diana_coman: so you have to flex the bison, no other reason that I can see.
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahaha; that reminds me of the "compilers" course at uni where ...
(trilema) diana_coman glares at zcx
(trilema) diana_coman: the usual "we're innovating aka corrupting because reasons", as far as I see it, yes.
(trilema) diana_coman: I don't really have anything to offer as a counterargument to that.
(trilema) diana_coman: well yes; and there are also C-specific annoyances but I don't think *those* are his fault now either.
(trilema) diana_coman: he'll end up doing a 3rd regrind of that genesis but once he does it, I'll sign and mirror it.
(trilema) diana_coman: carrying over from #o as it's possibly of interest re jfw's code: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-14#1013020
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: if you want /aim to rename, you'd need to think a bit as to what are you after really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: other combinations equally readable :D
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: may I suggest also eoihgwouthnode?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: have fun (and great presents!)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: eh, go and enjoy the party, don't mix it with reading (unless you do party-loud-reading or something)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: fwiw I don't see any problem/trouble with gales wallet although gbw doesn't exactly roll off the tongue or anything.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: heh, are you asking-but-not-asking?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: ahaha, before-and-after photos/
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: I gather you'll have quite the log to process but do take heart from it too - it wouldn't be there if I didn't think you can make best use of it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: you'll have to tell me how black-and-blue you find him, ok? lolz
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: funny that although it started with jfw almost getting daily chat in his plan, by the looks of it, it's you risking to end up with it formalised as such, do you realise?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: and before the deadline too :P
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: the exact number (whether just one) might be at times not entirely his decision because well, if it burns, it has to get done; but otherwise yes, that sounds towards the right direction.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: so now, tmsr-os may be huge but it still is to be taken one step at a time, prioritizing (and re-evaluating priorities if needed) at every step; there is help to be had on all aspects, not only technical, but you just need to ask for it rather than try to deal with all of it on your own, it's not like there isn't enough work for you otherwise, seriously now.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's not just a coincidence really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: part of the faster is that as you might have noticed in the rather recent discussions in #t, there's all sort of questions for which you'd have had the link ready except overdue
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ... step at a time and it's still just one out of all the rest.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: the further nudge that I'll spell out now is to plan each and every week at least one non-tmsr-os item too; it's not even all that productive to lock yourself into such narrow focus, not even for the first month; and moreover, it's precisely this sort of too-focused-on-just-this that increases the pressure of "immense task" rather than putting it in perspective: it might be immense, sure, but it's still to be taken one ...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: because changing context also costs and moreover it can even be more tiresome to give it all on 3 separate tasks than on a bigger single one; but at any rate, perhaps even more clear: look there than other than the usual weekly tasks (keeping up with logs and so on), basically ALL of the rest are AAC
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: both the total duration and the number matter for this sort of thing
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: at least there's one not on tmsr-os, there is that; thing is, I rather doubt the 4hours is a good estimate for the +ev
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: so back to your newest plan that you packed again with 3 AAC since yeah, that's right, only last week I was saying that two AAC for one week are quite enough
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and not a question somewhere in the article either, ok?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: yes, around here I tend to make allowances to some extent and help at times before the explicit ask - mainly because there's relatively little time; but if you don't ask a question, it's not asking.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: asking means exactly that: question *asked* of someone
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that is not asking, do you realise?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: understand that you do NOT have to do it ALL NOW; not sure how to get this through to you better.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: and there's asking for help with http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-14#1013056
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: fwiw I don't think he set out on purpose for this, hence my whether you realise it or not - because he possibly didn't even realise the full extent of it; that's also why we can move forwards anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: what do you consider that "ask for help" to mean in the context of the tmsr-os task immensity ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: any questions/unclear parts ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: now tell me, did I get anything incorrectly above?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: when it's the time to notice anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: I took jfw's question to mean *before* the deadline actually passed.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: quite possibly.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'm quite sure he noticed although he hates so much noticing this sort of things that he'll bury himself in work instead of dealing with it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that grates additionally precisely because it projects the pretense - will say that should be and that's enough, ain't it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for that matter note that you could have said there "on Sunday" or whatevers if you knew - and by the timings you should have - that you still had a lot of work to do to finish that AAC article that was due on Sat morning.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and the simple fact that it's a double miss and one worse than the other: one is the deadline itself; the other is the additional promise there "this is handled in the review and you'll see it tomorrow"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: I should very much hope so; and to increase the chances of this: do you get above why & how it's not *just* a missed deadline?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I don't know if that is crystal clear enough so you fully get it; is it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: besides the fact that I find it in general despicable as such, realise that if you keep fucking up your own word like that, the result will be that your word will be worth in the negatives.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ie you said the right thing to get something out of it and went and did something entirely else.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: ah, not the ack line but this: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-13#1012900
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-14#1013064 - that is what I mean there by a different level of mess.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-14#1013065 - it's the first time you did however the "sales man" on me -whether you realise it or not- and that's just about the surest way to shoot yourself in the head as far as I'm concerned.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: and furthermore, weren't you supposed to *ask for help* instead of avoiding the immensity or whatever else?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: for that matter, there were supposedly 4 hours gained out of dropping that spurious December plan; where did those go?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: the holiday/home-mode is understandable and part of why I actually kept trying to hold you back from overplanning even more than usual; either you accept it as such and therefore stop the pretense that you'll do it ALL and NOW or otherwise something somewhere will give.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: there's one thing to miss a deadline; another thing to miss it *silently*; an alltogether different level of mess to postpone something by means of a proposed deadline and then miss *that* silently.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: do you see the big trouble with the above?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: all the above aside for a moment, there's also the glaring http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-13#1012900
(ossasepia) diana_coman: there's also a limit to how much "more time" poured like that indiscrimately into one single task really does
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for one thing saying 20/40 hours on tmsr os is not by itself all that much planning and for the other, does the output match all that?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and it's not even clear how good a use you are making of all those hours that I am ready to believe you are indeed pouring into it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but a. it still has to be sustainable b. it's still not the only thing that matters because it's not in isolation c. by the looks of it you are working more in "emergency" mode than by any sort of planning
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I get it that you are fully-focused on tmsr-os and it's huge and overwhelming and you want the initial burst and to make it good and all that, fine'
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: http://younghands.club/2019/12/14/rmd-plan-dec-14th-20th-2019/?b=best&e=anticipated#select - this is btw true; it also includes the unstated *faster* and that comes with its own set of + and -.
(trilema) diana_coman: does it help ?
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: you are not unpleasant company that I see, no.
(trilema) diana_coman: and just to be on the clear side: it's not against "loudly saying X is foolhardy", not at all; if it's not clear though, I'll give it a rest.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: nm, now I see.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, diagnostic ignored, gah.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: uhm, wait; you have in there -Woverlength-strings - isn't that the enable? ie the disable is -Wno-overlength-strings isn't it?
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: the comparison OS/protestantism made sense; I get the allergy to hubris cycle too, now that you say it explicitly; my point above was though precisely re loud-before-crashed esp given the long silence -punctured at times briefly, sure- before that; ie the outbursts themselves I get but I don't see to be very useful really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: more like "notes to self" than comment; there's a bit of that at times in other places too, a sort of "if you know this already, here's a reminder to think of it" rather than "in short it's this and otherwise here's ref (if applicable"; but anyways, it'll probably get better as you publish code rather than just use it yourself alone.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: ahhh, for some reason I was under the impression that -pedantic enables it, not disables it; but yes, it's at any rate a total wtf; the comment re "wat" is that it's...cryptic for a comment, you know?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: 7pm works best, yes.
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: it has/had nothing to do with that either; but sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman will bbl.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: I want to talk to you this evening.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: ahem.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: anyways, once you regrind perhaps to fix the test at least, I'll gladly sign and mirror it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ... otherwise it's of course not a problem at all: since you unrolled various bits basically + made the table for rho, how/why did you choose where to stop with the unrolling anyway? and why not use the constants for iota instead of calc each time (ie lfsr)? 4. why oh why only self-gen test? not like there weren't values and/or ways to obtain them, lolz!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: I went through your keksum proggy and it's been quite a pleasure really; a few nitpicks on top of those: 1. why default/fallthrough on "bad option" instead of the more useful help option? 2. you have nicely \t everywhere except in usage_err in main.c where it's \s 3. just out of curiosity really since ...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sure, that's fine.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: yes; and moreover, the plan+eod are already written/available so it's not a copy/paste job to do there; write it as a proper analysis & review, not a collage of plan&eod.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the way you describe it, it sounds like the point is plan+eod with the actual analysis tucked away out of sight or something.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: hm, the point is the review not the plan so doesn't it make more sense the other way around ie you are writing the analysis while the eod+plan are the supporting info hence in there only as needed and in principle out of the way (so in footnotes or just linked or cited as/when needed)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: good then.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it probably IS improving but snail's pace indeed.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and happy birthday whaack !
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I suggest you do plan in advance at least as general topics so you have some roadmap but up to you otherwise.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so from Monday you'll write and publish one article every day; set aside half hour to plan it the day before, 1-1.5hours in the morning to write it, perhaps another 15 minutes somewhere to do a review and that's it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: anyways, quite enough of this already as it's not getting that much better as it is, is it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: yes, it can very well be that you did the equivalent of writing yourself in a corner, so what.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and don't "toss it" - publish it + write something new.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: it seems like you really fret too much over "is this the wrong direction"; if it's a direction you want to explore, then write it out and explore it, what.
(trilema) diana_coman: I guess so.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955290 - this sounds right to me although I rather hesitate on the "perfectly respectable" - I mean, precisely not so perfectly given the "pre-headfucked" as you put it (and I'm not sure it's that at all ie some external rather than internal lack).
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955280 - looks more like easily triggered by it than effectively aggressive to it.
(trilema) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955265 - maybe it's something specific to the 3d block there that messes it up though it's not all that likely (if for no other reason than the basic 1. at first it worked 2. it still works as a separate footnote); anyways, I don't think it's worth the time right now to chase it fully.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-13#1012900 - did I miss this somehow?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cooking courses wasn't something I had at all in mind for this school here, lmao.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ... of the slightly longer prep on day 1 + quick and painless adjustment on subsequent days you are set for the whole week.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-14#1012982 - ugh; next will be those "froze your food to save time"? I'm not even sure it does, if all the cleaning etc are added up but at any rate, it's "saved" at the cost of shittier food, inevitably; if you want to save time, learn to cook properly ie meals that 1. take only a quick setup and then will cook fine while you do something else 2. are part of a process so for the price ...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-14#1012981 - hm, that article doesn't go very far esp for the 5 hours that do not include the reading, re-reading and general prep for it; why so dry and tortured anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-13#1012977 - worth trying really; esp the full remote since it would give you both your time back and way more flexibility on all directions really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: RubenSomsen: since you had some interest in labels
(trilema) diana_coman: I fixed the issue though it's rather weird: for one thing I distinctly rememvber it was *fine* ie all of it in a footnote so not sure what/when broke, ugh; for the other, I had to split it into 2 footnotes - it was *fine* to take 2 <blockquote> spans but not the 3rd? wtf is this.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: what does it take to switch to remote work?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-13#1012961 - this or even the Hong Kong version would still be an improvement over current situation really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: interesting stuff out of testing jfw's keksum on mac at any rate; fwiw I tested it on centos 6 and didn't have any trouble at all (tests were fine too).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-13#1012908 - ugh, a sort of commute; I guess it's the price of living on the beach otherwise.
(trilema) diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: uhm, it is, apparently it's some messed up footnote, lemme see.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: not bad.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: heh, sounds even good for your wallet work which was highest priority anyway iirc.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: ok.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion_road: where are you with the plan & changes this week?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: is that town so far away or is it that poorly connected or why does it take anyway the best part of a day ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-13#1012889 - at least that makes for a better reason to spend those 5-6 hours on town-visit, certainly
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-13#1012885 - glad to hear it!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-13#1012881 - the unexpected blows to all plans; did you sort it out meanwhile?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: look perhaps through the eucrypt series, as I think I go in some detail over the Keccak mechanics as such too; iirc jfw also links some tutorials from his article introducing the genesis of his keksum.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but yes, you will have to read and digest Keccak, ofc, otherwise uhm, what sense exactly can you possibly make of any implementation of it, whether it's jfw's or mine or anyone else's really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: oh huh, you don't quite know what Keccak is?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: sounds all right; try jfw's keksum, good idea + you should read that too anyway; bot investigation sounds ok so continue from there and do take notes so you have them at write-up time.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: cool then.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: oh huh, is it not clear? hm, lobbes, is there something unclear?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: cool; and you're welcome.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: any questions there? or anything else?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as to remedial/learning-debt-paying, that should get some place at some point too,
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: moving forwards, it would seem to me that atm you are rather staying where you are; and as such, you should then at least give some thought to actually making the most of that; so I'd expect some of that to show in your plans - if not for next week, then for the week after.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ... to figure out what is going on for real as opposed to what seems to be going on.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: all right; then start by writing out your plan for next week on yh by this Sunday; feel free to write some review of your time in tmsr so far too, it will be rather instructive I'd think; for next week you certainly have at the very least 1. a penance article of those long-ago-promised 2. concrete plan re figuring out the ebuilds; with time & deadline too, please; and start actually measuring your time at least for starters, ...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: well, for starters the 100% on ONE thing is more of a luxury rather than anything and a. it's not all that productive really b. rather rare in practice.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: listen, if you want on, I'm willing to try and help you; I gather you are fine with that pledge because you will need it, yes; and it will take some closer reporting & follow up by the looks of it.
(trilema) diana_coman: yeah, well, not exactly my interests, what can I say.
(trilema) diana_coman: gah, nails, ugh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: there's no such thing, no.
(trilema) diana_coman: I tend to stress them out by taking a book with me, but I still resent-the-fucking-time-it-takes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: 3 months, look at that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: listen, there's also that old promised series - whatever happened to that?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: wb; anyways, I think I got at least a better picture of you after all this, so here's to some clarity.
(trilema) diana_coman: what can I say, I'll end up again with very-long-hair out of hating women's haircutters, lolz.
(trilema) diana_coman: but did he know hair theory ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: all right, ping when you're back.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: he was shocked, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman has literally told a uni prof "your saying that I'm a professor now does NOT make me a professor!!"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, the label is either a burden or a recognition, depending on where you actually are.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: you went this year back and forth through "I'd rather give up lordship"/ "no, I wouldn't"; "I'm better off as a knight" / "ugh, I like being a lord"; "I have/will make a castle since I'm a lord"/"wouldn't quite ask for a deed for it, hmmm"; what do you reckon now exactly, regardless of labels?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: here, to help you re that rational point; note the apparently in there too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (if you prefer re rational, there's always that "too much of a good thing".)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: what do you make in the end of the lordship and castle thing anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: heh, it's ... not the only thing, it never can be, that's all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at any rate, I suppose dorion_road would be rather happy to hear there's one man more rather than less; and the project certainly has both a huge need for people and a lot of potential, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so always-very-rational-apparently, you know?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: did I lose you somewhere?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: heh; you're always welcome of course.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (but no, it wasn't a request for help at all; simply a statement of a fact.)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: ahahah; and I thought you had some wrecked schedule to set back on track :P
(ossasepia) diana_coman: oh huh, older sounding text; I can see what you mean; and gah, I'll feel 83 again.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: out of the work/tasks/directions around here though, what interests you? I get it that conversation and general interaction with actual people is (naturally!) what you want and like most, sure; anything other though that speaks to your interest(s) more seriously?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: heh, and how did you learn that heavier meaning anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: eh, stop blaming others/the environment/the year/the phases of the moon, will you? you are not 15 anymore.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahaha; no, I don't; how much? (and anyway, trilema's not mine :P )
(ossasepia) diana_coman: all sorts of negatives but yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, *you* are the native speaker, what.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at any rate, the way to quantify a want is simply by what you are *truly willing to lose/give up* in order to fulfil that "want"; it's always like that, defined by the negatives.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: poor English even gives a clue there I suppose, in that a "want" is essentially a deficiency/lack/state of need, isn't it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I doubt you actually want it atm though; you'd certainly like to, yes; but not want to.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but look above, you said you wanted to sell the house and to travel
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: yes, you can and no, fundamental ones do not change that easily really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: you are looking for john henry newman
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: I think that's quite it - you pay a lot of attention to a lot of things, basically documentation at its best, or I don't even know how to better put it; I'd guess it has to do with the journalism side but since I'm not all that knowledgeable on that, I can't fully tell.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: thank you btw for all that info; I can certainly see why/how you make an excellent guide to a place, seriously.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so there's at least some more to think of, lol; take your time.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: add to the thinking: how would you define/quantify "I want" ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: of all the things going on around tmsr, what appeals to you the most anyway? and really appeals, not the "oh, it would be so NICE if I did this"
(ossasepia) diana_coman has brushed up on US map.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: did you live any time outside the US?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: aha.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ever* not every, ffs.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if anything though, understand that there isn't really every any "ready" for anything as in ticking a list of stuff off upfront and that list being also actually useful; it's just not how it works
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hm; did you study in your home town? I gathered you did move a bit about the US but not exactly when/why/how far; mind going through that? (there's a point to it).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so at b: which of those is it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: you had on your blog all sorts of plans, for escape and some re selling that house and so on; there's a. no follow up on those so - where are they? b. unclear if you made them because "gotta make a plan" / "wtf to do???" or because "I actually want to do this"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, usually that works well only if actually measured; if you rely solely on memory, it will always lie to you, there's no way around that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: 20-30 hours per week is quite a lot really so either it's not really that or you don't make very good use of them.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hm, they don't... show for real so far, something's weird there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: thing is, it still seems like it's eating the best part of your time&energy; how much time do you actually have left anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: tbh from my (very limited, granted) experience with "jobs", the more mind-numbing it is, the better paid, at least up to some ceiling ie within a certain context, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: does that pay better or why the switch?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: fwiw you do seem to like very-neatly-and-clearly-defined-sorted-categorised-stuff, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and what "few others"? be more precise please, it's quite hard to pin anything down as it is.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: what work did you do?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what did you learn from that business management?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: now I wonder just where are you exactly otherwise, hm.
(ossasepia) diana_coman shakes head.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so you piled some learning-debt on top of the money-debt, after which you went ahead and found someone to also eat up those inca-salary-pellets?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, that clarifies the "can't code" and possibly a whole lot of the "can't quite use those tools properly", you know?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: what did you study for all-that-debt anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyway, back to you lobbes, mind if I ask you a whole bunch of questions?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: tldr: I had no idea but went willingly with friends who promised to "teach me"; they taught me how to put the equipment on and then pretty much shoved me down the slope, lolz; at the end of the day, down a black slope too; I...survived.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re fumbling, it's quite possibly because of the actual depth of those tools - there's much more to them than it seems and if you have no idea, it's not quite working, yes; it reminds me of my rather-interesting-learning-to-ski moment but sadly it's Romanian only lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: so how did this come about really? ~all the context I have on you is along the lines of "he's been stuck for years on the comfy path to boiled-frog, snapped out of it at close-to-last-moment, didn't have much support/advice/something to lean on to extricate self"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that sounds more useful already.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: take your time.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: to*.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hm, that you were supposedly addressing (and that's how this here took a break iirc) simply by publishing/talking more though; it doesn't seem to have worked/been enough; so how about you leave off for a minute the focus on "what do I need" and tell me where you want to get too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: how/when do you find out you "are not" though?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as overall result I mean.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: to start from somewhere though - what do you want from here?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh, 3.5m wide and 5.95 recurring tall; that's not something to know exactly clear upfront, lolz.