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(trilema) nubbins`: my atari 2600 one had a switch for CH 2/3
(trilema) nubbins`: plugged into coax input
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform via stupid RF adapter
(trilema) nubbins`: incidentally, the fact that NES has RCA out is amazing
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah they still come w/ RCA in
(trilema) nubbins` has NES, but in storage
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform i wonder how well it works w/ modern tvs
(trilema) nubbins`: i know i'd sure as fuck rather play Super Spike V-Ball on an actual NES
(trilema) nubbins`: how 'bout the cpu speed ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: HAHA i was about to.
(trilema) nubbins`: <+nubbins`> i'll be afk-ish, one last color to lay down on these business cards
(trilema) nubbins`: not on emulators of the shit hardware
(trilema) nubbins`: jurov openbsd keeps a room of shit hardware because it's expected to run on that shit hardware in the real world
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform ^
(trilema) nubbins`: deedbot- afasdfasdfgwre
(trilema) nubbins`: i'll be afk-ish, one last color to lay down on these business cards
(trilema) nubbins`: BingoBoingo messed w/ 0.5.3.1 on bsd?
(trilema) nubbins`: !up deedbot-
(trilema) nubbins`: but hey. the plural of anecdote is proof, yes?
(trilema) nubbins`: i do feel that we'll run into precisely the same issues as we're having with our current gentoo installs
(trilema) nubbins`: my path forward is prolly gonna be (a)gxemul (b) gentoo on same (c) 0.5.3.1 on same
(trilema) nubbins`: current stable is only 0.6.0.1
(trilema) nubbins` asks "sanity check" questions more often than most
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm assuming the built environments can be swapped around from person to person?
(trilema) nubbins`: do a run-through (or 10) of getting gxemul set up, and make a guide
(trilema) nubbins`: if anyone reading feels like being tasked
(trilema) nubbins`: based on this, i think qemu is the third choice
(trilema) nubbins`: might as well get em all laid out now
(trilema) nubbins`: other pros/cons for qemu vx gxemul?
(trilema) nubbins`: cross-compile failing would probably be a canary
(trilema) nubbins`: ah, this is correct
(trilema) nubbins`: i fear this'll add complexity from the start because you won't know if the cross-compile is failing because it's a cross-compile or because the code's borked
(trilema) nubbins`: i wouldn't ascribe "stuck" to having clone-able metal available
(trilema) nubbins`: uh does gxemul emulate x86?
(trilema) nubbins`: what's the simplest we could get away with?
(trilema) nubbins`: so maybe we can start there
(trilema) nubbins`: leaving aside the question of OS for now
(trilema) nubbins`: before we dig too deep, is it fair to say that qemu is worth using for hosting dev environment?
(trilema) nubbins` has a virtualbox .VDI with gentoo installed
(trilema) nubbins`: "build script" is sorta the install guide :P
(trilema) nubbins`: mod6 in fairness my gentoo was installed using the official docs, and it's reacting precisely the same as alf's
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, see !s qemu
(trilema) nubbins`: "can't untie the knot in your laces? cut em off and apply glue-backed velcro"
(trilema) nubbins`: one of the solutions floated for the "no lssl, lcrypto" thing was to download precompiled bins
(trilema) nubbins`: that happens to be made by crapple
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform then i'd mention again that i built it on POSIX-compliant os
(trilema) nubbins` has a suspicion that this is somehow related to 32bit vs 64bit libs
(trilema) nubbins`: mod6 ah 32bit
(trilema) nubbins`: i know nothing about aws, can you pull an image of that machine down locally?
(trilema) nubbins`: ah get out
(trilema) nubbins`: what *has* 0.5.3.1 worked on so far? debian, darwin, that it?
(trilema) nubbins`: well, alf's not gonna go for anything w/ systemd
(trilema) nubbins` is good at figuring things out but is currently in position of "doesn't know what questions to ask"
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't know nearly enough about gcc to be of much further use atm
(trilema) nubbins`: gentoo is ostensibly used by alf because it's the sanest. the fact that bitcoind doesn't compile on it doesn't necessarily mean that the OS is the problem, nor does it mean a turd should be adopted as the OTBT
(trilema) nubbins`: whatcha wanna use, windows?
(trilema) nubbins`: gentoo on amd64, but the shit don't work
(trilema) nubbins`: more like Falsecrypt
(trilema) nubbins` takes this opportunity to make his avatar look meaner
(trilema) nubbins`: wow, the latest DDOS attack against the forum seems to have reinstated the ability to change/add avatars
(trilema) nubbins`: oh ha is that what's using it!
(trilema) nubbins`: cannot find -lssl, -lcrypto
(trilema) nubbins`: incidentally i tried a non-static build of openssl, auto.sh barfs w/ same error
(trilema) nubbins`: pink eye will make up the rent shortfall
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform his bedroom is being turned into a paper-printing studio
(trilema) nubbins`: i think the openssl build has some problems
(trilema) nubbins`: he's got til the 30th
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway i gave said idiot the boot
(trilema) nubbins`: hey, pothing's nerfect.
(trilema) nubbins`: ugh i need lunch
(trilema) nubbins`: you just get it set up
(trilema) nubbins`: i'll pm my email password
(trilema) nubbins`: the fucking email address?
(trilema) nubbins`: what's the private key here?
(trilema) nubbins`: you don't generate a public key from an email address, you generate it from a private key
(trilema) nubbins`: i know qemu was bandied about in the past
(trilema) nubbins`: "canot find -lssl, -lcrypto"
(trilema) nubbins`: after renaming all int32_t to boost::int32_t: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=A2M3kkZL
(trilema) nubbins`: after renaming all uint32_t to boost::uint32_t: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=D7XGyGna
(trilema) nubbins`: with "-std=c++03" from portatronic patch removed: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=50XwKjsy (precisely the same as before patching)
(trilema) nubbins`: with both of alf's patches applied: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7qRa7CnL
(trilema) nubbins`: if i manually move the headers over, back to uint32_t errors: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=taiiWaYc
(trilema) nubbins`: build failed on gentoo using gcc-4.4.7: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qhb7ZT3x
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform mod6 ben_vulpes and others: on a side note, auto.sh doesn't put the openssl headers in /ourlibs/
(trilema) nubbins`: wait, that would be horrible
(trilema) nubbins`: well, i'd like to believe this is all an illusion and i'll eventually wake up, my 16-year-old self, sweating through the mattress in a fever dream
(trilema) nubbins`: some things you can't be shown, neh?
(trilema) nubbins`: no, but i'll leave the other options for you to figure out
(trilema) nubbins`: yes, and awareness has done wonders so far 8)
(trilema) nubbins`: the slightest twitch of a finger.
(trilema) nubbins`: not even fake action.
(trilema) nubbins`: caring != sharing.
(trilema) nubbins`: but you did it first, so "*shrug* w/e"
(trilema) nubbins`: i.e. they care enough to share a link
(trilema) nubbins`: put another way: maybe all your bookface friends care just as much as you do
(trilema) nubbins`: YOU ANARCHIST
(trilema) nubbins`: golly gee, you shared a whole link on bookface?
(trilema) nubbins`: <+lobbes> I posted obamaz magic decree to my facebook. Quite expectedly, no one cares. <<< no one, including you
(trilema) nubbins`: hahaha man i hate cops.
(trilema) nubbins` can't wait to reduce the head count in here
(trilema) nubbins`: or, since i am generally always home, pick a time when any normal person is precisely in the middle of a night's rest
(trilema) nubbins`: with no plan
(trilema) nubbins`: because, y'know, if you lost your keys three days ago, you should come home drunk to a locked house at 3:30am
(trilema) nubbins`: and it's my piece of shit roommate who lost his keys
(trilema) nubbins`: after a few minutes of this, my doorbell rings, so i go grab a chunk of wood to cave the guy's face in with
(trilema) nubbins`: so i get woken up 3:30am last night by the guy next door POUNDING on the wall
(trilema) nubbins`: !up menahem
(trilema) nubbins`: yep. INCREDIBLY WEIRD, this. a guy using tor.
(trilema) nubbins`: BitStamp management found this message to be, well, incredibly weird.
(trilema) nubbins`: In April 2014, BitStamp representatives messaged Force, asking him why he was accessing his account through Tor. He responded through the support ticket: “I utilize TOR for privacy. Don’t particularly want NSA looking over my shoulder :)”
(trilema) nubbins`: today's auction-end day :o
(trilema) nubbins`: and if you: $ openssl version
(trilema) nubbins`: are they symlinked to .so.1.0.0 like mine are?
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform do you have libssl.so, libcrypto.so on your system? (/usr/lib64, perhaps?)
(trilema) nubbins`: it's real bad, man
(trilema) nubbins` coughs, scratches arm
(trilema) nubbins`: with the portatronic patch.
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm in lockstep with you, seems
(trilema) nubbins`: "glibc uses libnss to support a number of different providers for address resolution services. Unfortunately, you cannot statically link libnss, as exactly what providers it loads depends on the local system's configuration."
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, just checking that now
(trilema) nubbins`: tbh gentoo is the odd one out here, which is curious
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm gonna give that a shit
(trilema) nubbins`: but really though, the closest stable gcc version to mod6's 4.4.5 that portage still carries is 4.4.7
(trilema) nubbins`: here all night.
(trilema) nubbins`: rename it davatican
(trilema) nubbins`: bitcoinrpc.cpp:1761:30: error: expected primary-expression before ‘(’ token
(trilema) nubbins`: but there's another error right before that, almost missed it.
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform haven't peeked at your latest mail yet, but applying the portatronic patch turns my uint32_t error into an int64_t error
(trilema) nubbins`: bbl meatspace headspace
(trilema) nubbins`: it's entirely possible that gcc broke this
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform i'm done w/ this for the evening, but my next step will be to try again with gcc 4.4.5, which mod6 says was current (in debian) when 0.5.3 came out
(trilema) nubbins`: only results are from log
(trilema) nubbins` invites anyone currently watching to google the above error, with quotes
(trilema) nubbins`: alf, take small solace in the fact that it's not just you?
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ mod6 ben_vulpes
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ asciilifeform
(trilema) nubbins`: util.h:650:8: error: ‘uint32_t’ does not name a type
(trilema) nubbins`: this brings me to:
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron mkdir ourlibs/include/openssl; cp openssl-1.0.1g/include/openssl/* ourlibs/include/openssl/
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron that actually doesn't work.
(trilema) nubbins`: if it looks kosher, then try ./auto.sh again
(trilema) nubbins`: $ echo $PATH
(trilema) nubbins`: $ export PATH=$PATH:/home/dpb/dev/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/openssl-1.0.1g/include
(trilema) nubbins`: or figure out why auto.sh puts the shit in the wrong dir
(trilema) nubbins`: add ~/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/openssl-1.0.1g/include to your path
(trilema) nubbins`: found missing openssl headers, they're just in the wrong spot.
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron around?
(trilema) nubbins`: trinque everywhere's got problems, they're just, uh... /different/ here
(trilema) nubbins`: funkenstein_ try asciilifeform
(trilema) nubbins`: fuck am i ever glad shit like this is just a hobby now
(trilema) nubbins` scratches head
(trilema) nubbins`: wait, no, boost failed 1 target.
(trilema) nubbins`: guess that was an important target :p
(trilema) nubbins`: none of the headers are there
(trilema) nubbins`: oh, and actually, yeah bitcoin-v0_5_3_1/ourlibs/include/openssl does not exist
(trilema) nubbins`: i did get 1 failed target on openssl build
(trilema) nubbins`: i'll pastebin more relevant vomit
(trilema) nubbins`: headers.h:21:27: fatal error: openssl/ecdsa.h: No such file or directory
(trilema) nubbins` can also not get 0.5.3.1-RELEASE compiled on gentoo, but for completely different reason
(trilema) nubbins`: in the midst of the thousands upon thousands of warnings
(trilema) nubbins` wonders the easy way to discover said target
(trilema) nubbins`: hm when building make, first bjam command produces: ...failed updating 1 target...
(trilema) nubbins`: MRW convo turns to usd-goliath
(trilema) nubbins`: qualitatively
(trilema) nubbins`: nope. then work as a contractor for the man.
(trilema) nubbins`: that's why the off-radars live with strangers (or, more frequently, friends)
(trilema) nubbins`: you don't need to own a thing for its desire to shape your set of acceptable environments
(trilema) nubbins`: understand that your desire to own a 6-axis milling machine directly conflicts with your ability to live happily off-radar
(trilema) nubbins`: and that's where your path has taken you
(trilema) nubbins`: only if you're happy with living as a rat.
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, whether or not one can survive comfortably off the radar is more a function of the route their life has taken thus far. it's not in the cards for everyone.
(trilema) nubbins`: you do not know a hundred people who live in dumpsters.
(trilema) nubbins`: ? i can name a hundred people, right now, who live in this fashion
(trilema) nubbins`: <+ascii_field> nubbins`: when the canadian affiliate of usg decides that nubbins` is a t3rr0r1st!!!1111!!1 and supplying mains current to his home is an atrocity which must end, 'underground economy' will do so in its place ? <<< understand that "underground economy" means you have neither a mortgage nor a lease in your own name
(trilema) nubbins`: ;;rated othernubs`
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