ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-27 19:16:12 asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i specifically wish to operate with no external capital, this is the only possible scheme.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 13:39:53 mp_en_viaje: ~this~ is the discriminant ; it's not a matter of how great you can do at the hobby of this, when "real life" permits. it's not how impressive, or above-others, or anything else your amateur effort might come to be.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 11:35:44 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-27#1948412 << alright, well, i guess we're just talking talks here, coulda said you were gonna be stupid from the get go saved everyone the hassle.
BingoBoingo: Going from one occupied rack operating in the black to the next phase, 5 in you chart is going to be an expensive jump but if there is an outreach engine running investors or creditors may be interested in something like hiring lobbes to make camp in Iberia and service the racks you rent at all of the cable landing points.
BingoBoingo: Now "I refuse to take outside capital until the rack's current cost basis is covered and a conversion engine is running" is a different position.
BingoBoingo: No outside capital until the hereto unmapped phase 5 is one thing. No outside capital ever... that position will trap your operation at hobby shop scale.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Even the most independent "muh seeds, muh land, muh guns" farmers know they can't completely cut themselves off from outside capital. They might not like taking debt, but they gotta be open to the possibility. If the neighbor's farm fall due to low commodity prices, as a farmer you have to at least try to buy his fields for the scale as your position isn't much better without growing.
asciilifeform: 'make me a can opener.' 'here's a can opener, mp' 'fuck you tard, where's the steel mill and coal, iron mines, to go with that!?'
asciilifeform: would req literally 1000+ subscribers. ( are there even 1000 total ~people~ in l2 ? )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 16:25:05 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there's 2 separate qs.: a) whether it is possible to run a comfortably +ev miniature isp for use of l1/l2. b) is how to run large isp, hosting 1000 heathens, to make 100k's. presently it would be a lie if asciilifeform said that knows how to (b) , and suicidal if tried to (a) + (b) simultaneously right off .
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform does not know how to build (and in usa no less!) an isp that reliably brings in, ~from l1/l2~, and on top of other expenses, the 1-1.5btc/mo that would be req'd to feed asciilifeform. and refuse to scam anyone into thinking that i know how. if ~this~ is hard requirement, then yes, asciilifeform oughta be drummed out.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: fwiw, afaik all of the iron that's actually on the books, with the exception of 4 very worn 256G ssd (~50 $ if were new) that i had BingoBoingo mail , is at piz. so you can liquidate even nao if you like.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: why not detail what you had in mind, before we do the mutual -10 / declaring each other traitors thing.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-27 19:16:12 asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i specifically wish to operate with no external capital, this is the only possible scheme.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-28 11:35:44 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-27#1948412 << alright, well, i guess we're just talking talks here, coulda said you were gonna be stupid from the get go saved everyone the hassle.
mp_en_viaje: normally i'd recommend either a lord take you in or, in the case of more retarded, that they themselves find a lord to take them in. in your case though, i don't tjhink there's any point in wasting anyone's time, you're just getting washed out and that'sthat.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-13 18:03:01 mp_en_viaje: anyway, unrelatedly : for the folk awaiting trilema publication of divers reports, as were implicitly due for q3 sometime early october : i had every intention of doing them, if not by the 5th day as trad. absolute value at least sorta by 15th (as scaled value, 3x the months, 3x5 days) or something. but then, whole pizaro debacle, adding to the fact that i'm traveling and that's never so fixed a schedule (for inst
mp_en_viaje: i expect the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-13#1945345 batch with include the s.nsa closing statement ; asciilifeform an inventory of whatever hardware / items said corp still has in your hands will therefore be helpful to have on hand then for liquidation.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-27 19:16:12 asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i specifically wish to operate with no external capital, this is the only possible scheme.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-27#1948412 << alright, well, i guess we're just talking talks here, coulda said you were gonna be stupid from the get go saved everyone the hassle.
mp_en_viaje: now, i can't take out the old style js-select, because i have a bunch of these that haven't been altered out yet ; but why the hell do they not use the new style, and why the hell do they create monsters when told to ?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, why is it just so hard for theses folks ? check this shit out : http://younghands.club/2019/10/28/jfw-plan-week-of-oct-28/?b=Inves&e=#comment-59
mp_en_viaje: and in other news /me shall be going to budapest soon, plan to catch up with logs &all in the car.
mp_en_viaje: afaik that was always the case, argentines couldn't buy dollars ; but then again it was there mostly for their own psyche wound protection -- they COULDNT buy more anyway. they just love to pretend.
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/Wgnln << Raw incoming results 31.2 White Nationalists 36.2 Fat Forehead with 38.4 percent of the ballots counted. The projections the lcoal media is running because they won't show anything other than "projections" are 29 White Nationalist 38 Fat Forehead.
BingoBoingo: So far quiet. some youth without obvious affiliation gathered on the Rambla as they tend to do, tomando mate. Some fireworks (not a metaphor) on the beach. A *very* few cars with flags of varying sizes making rounds.
BingoBoingo: brb, going to it the streets in search of commie tears
BingoBoingo: The Colorados and other minor parties are pledging allegiance to the White Nationalist party in their concesion speeches. Fat Forehead sitting under 40%
BingoBoingo: At this point nothing is final, but I am looking to be more right than the BBC.
BingoBoingo: As the results are awaited: https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Algunas-aclaraciones-sobre-el-video-viral-de-un-votante-de-Cabildo-Abierto-en-Lavalleja-uc733924
BingoBoingo: I did see the economist identifying candidate riding around the neighborhood in a compact car followed by a motorcycle news team
BingoBoingo: Polls are closed. In the past 40 minutes all the flags attached to cars disappeared. Folks walking around with flags are similarly gone
asciilifeform: ftr i do not in fact disagree with mp's 'expand the republic, you maggot' . but i also have a principled objection to selling things that dun physically exist, and rely on unknowns in order to come into existence. ( recall, i refused to offer FG for pre-order until it was in fact rolling off conveyor at factory.) hence i built multiphase rocket, that does not ~hard-depend~ on a rate of expansion in order to stay alive.
asciilifeform: a 3) 'expand the republic' presently takes more brain than i have, to offer concrete idea. but will write on the subj, as soon as i have half a clue (and ftr, imho sending spam is ~not~ a practical plan for expanding republic.)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: my focus to date has been 1) obtain and assemble the basic physical plant; 2) offer service to l1.
diana_coman: rise to plan or not, at least a draft to publish there, maybe it gets some feedback to make it rise slowly?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: presently i look among the l1. (unsurprisingly no one yet hurried to buy 20u or 2kwatt).
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i do not currently have a concrete scheme for 'expand l1, l2' that would rise to the level of a plan. (and i've permanently 0 interest in servicing heathens, i.e. those not in wot at all.)
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no, my question is: are *you* going to actively look for that someone to put in an order for such a thing or are you just waiting for them if/when they come?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is strictly re the ~number~ of subscribers. if you were speaking of ~physical~ expansion, the plant could be doubled in size overnight if someone were to put in an order for such a thing.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: the $ is fine, yes; the q is how/whether you actually plan *anything* to get new customers?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: as i specifically wish to operate with no external capital, this is the only possible scheme.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: all of the expansion plans for which i have concrete #s, rather than 'wishes', are summarized. but 1st priorities are 1) service asciilifeform 2) service l1 (such that want in) followed by 3) all other forms of expansion.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: do I understand correctly that you do not plan to actively expand that operation? ie you are doing there contingency planning for the unfortunate case that you have too many customers to fit in the current rack rather than business plan to get customers, is that it?
asciilifeform finally fixed, i think, all the typos.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/10/argentina-and-uruguay-go-to-the-polls/ << Qntra -- Argentina And Uruguay Go To The Polls
BingoBoingo: This was routinely a sub-10 minute affair in my part of old country. These people manage to form lines with half hour to several hour waits to stuff envelopes with either their chosen lists to vote or sliced deli meats to annul their vote
BingoBoingo: So, voting here consists of putting pre-printed "lists" in envelopes. No marking answers to dozens of questions, and folks are generally expected to bring their own damned lists. Motherfuckers are still standing in lines that have formed to do the voting!
asciilifeform: (among other things, full BOMs for the irons (as per mp_en_viaje's crit) are given in the article.)
asciilifeform still proofreading and correcting article, but the 2nd draft of price calculator, which includes all standard options for irons, is posted for those interested.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-12 02:36:19 lobbes: ("blog.lobbesblog" was indeed clunky so I figured I'd take this opportunity to rebrand)
mp_en_viaje: now i dun even remember who the fuck is krankenwhatevs
mp_en_viaje: the staff is by now inured anyway.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-26 18:41:41 asciilifeform: presently dun know why there is a limo, or for that matter the similarly painted apc. they normally live in the parking lot, and each eats 6 spaces... i assumed they were props, engineless. evidently not
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-26#1948372 <<< hey, one time this week, coming out of a cafe after a day's walk and gaze an etc, i spotted an old limo mercedes gold car and instead of getting a cab, i just paid the fellow to take me to the hotel.
asciilifeform: there's a dock valet 24/7 tho, apparently.
asciilifeform: also anyffin that dun fit in a knapsack is decreed to go through the dock. which means ordering the crew to unlock the gates, takes 10min or so on top.
BingoBoingo: Well, they gotta sell and the folks selling weirdlocks have their own pitch on how weirdlocks help them sell.
asciilifeform: never saw a theater like that, even in depths of usg.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: so far my least favourite piece in the tea ceremony is the door locks -- there's 4 of'em and the 1st requires key, pw, finger, and... face. there's a hole into which face.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's 5 lights and 'i90' in'ere.
BingoBoingo: That's... a slow drive. In my part of old country the mile a minute rule of thumb held for most drives of an hour's length.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ~6mi drive, here. takes 15-25min depending on the hour of day/night.
asciilifeform presently dun know why there is a limo, or for that matter the similarly painted apc. they normally live in the parking lot, and each eats 6 spaces... i assumed they were props, engineless. evidently not
asciilifeform: there's people there at all hrs, apparently. last time asciilifeform went to set up that box for mp, the liveried 'coloco' limo was in fact running and standing by front door, opened up, and driver was waiting for somebody...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Retrieval mission was ~12 minutes from my door to the tower door. Unusually favorable stop light luck.
asciilifeform: i suspect even in other locations.
BingoBoingo: In your location they are indeed.
asciilifeform: irons, BingoBoingo , are the easiest part of all of this.
BingoBoingo: At present they are contained in the hard plastic former bilge box exerting a kilo or two of pressure against the boxes closure tabs. It kinda seems like a waste of perfectly good box.
BingoBoingo: I suspect most of the cabling including the surprisingly cheap for their weight C13/14 power cables will be disposed of via the "Free to a good home" device more commonly used with puppies
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they were the cheapest thing in there, right after screws and hoses, dun worry about'em.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: At some point I will have to check the Rockchips for casualties. The load shifting on the way out of Latecho had the RK plant take some paint off of the smaller switch which had served it.
asciilifeform recalls as a 3yo playing w/ grandfather's set of rubber stamps; no fewer than dozen, and in astonishing variety of shapes/sizes
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Based on MP's survey the world's remains all stink of Sovok or worse today.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In this system "escribano", notarization is its own law course of roughly the same duration and intensity as the lawyering one.
BingoBoingo: Yes, this does mean the bureaucrats and stamp affixing class gets more relative weight in the Roman Law system. In absolute terms though their weight appears to remain the same while the common law derpery is just morbidly obese in general.
BingoBoingo: In the roman law system the law is clear, and more time can be spent on the facts. There are appelate courts to consider corner cases and weird not contemplated or ambiguously handled by the codes, but... the incentive to derp your way into rewriting law in a particular case is nearly non-existent.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: afaik, anglo 'law' is ~100% this. ( and, as superset, mp's description. )
BingoBoingo: For that practicing in common law means the law itself is at least as ambiguous as the facts of the case through history rapidly increasing the complexity as they system is used.
asciilifeform: ( unrelatedly, noticed this morning that (for 1st time?) all the trb noades known to asciilifeform , are properly synced )
BingoBoingo: Common law systems allow entering precendent all the way back to when the Anglo fuckers on retard island decided to make their law a sort of talmudic type study done sloppily.
BingoBoingo: The Civil Code may be a man clumsily trying to make sense of the world, but it was the work of one man living in a country that had a population under 100,000. Previously dispute resolution happened through dueling and feuding.
BingoBoingo: Only parts of it are still loaded into the brain, but doing that was a big Holy Shit moment.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Actual court workings are likely similarly insane, but the law itself is much more clear. The entirety of the criminal code was read last Saturday.
BingoBoingo: This week money going to counsel for their time, the telegram, and VAT summed to 167 USD.
BingoBoingo: I am confident their spending in legal costs and their own payroll hours has already crossed into the low 4 figures. The expenses related to the ginger if hired from outside their own organization was at least 150 US for the time I was there. He wasn't the typical Securitas et al put on a uniform and walk around or sit in a guard booth type.
trinque: like any other animal
trinque: right. my experience has been that the poor will, failing all else, shit themselves if it gets shit on you also.
BingoBoingo: I have low expectations of anyone's ability to be compelled into paying here. Inflicting costs however is the pressure avenue.
BingoBoingo: If I fuck up too bad LATAM is a big place. One of the dictatorship/military fellows facing "Operation Condor" charges from the 1970s routinely goes in and out of the country much to the chargrin of local competent authorities.
trinque: I'm familiar with this "practically free" so from this point forward I'm going to popcorn and cheer you on. Just remember when to pull out, lest ya spurt in the wrong bitch.
BingoBoingo: Also once the suspicions about the Wednesday meeting are confirmed, an attack on licenses is also practically free except for my time.
BingoBoingo: 50/50 chance it gets dismissed right there and 1/2 to 3/4 of their potential maximum upside by pursuing action has been blown then and there. They have to be extraordinarily bad at math.
BingoBoingo: "Qué significa 99.98 y 99.99 en minutos de falta cada mes? En estes correos donde Ustds. mostraron "buene fé?" And from there on stay attached to the neck by the teeth.
BingoBoingo: Before the actual suits hit the docket there's a mandatory arbitration attempt stage where their suit would almost certainly die.
BingoBoingo: trinque: It is indeed. As mentioned in the post however, defending a very unlikely suit from them would be very inexpensive in monetary terms to me. Pursuing a suit is the expensive direction.
trinque: probably best outcome is to bring it quickly to a close, and then see if you can work for the best of the lawyers you met.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-19 08:01:31 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946702 << let it be observed, since we're here, the INTRICATE way in which socialism perpetuates itself. by getting you to believe the whole "intelectual property" claptrap, it gets you to ~volunteer~ for tax in one of its principal tax halls. and it's not even the money tax that's interesting, all the personal service tax, where you pay homage and pay court upon a
trinque: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946771 << just remember, the "court" is itself an extraction machine.
BingoBoingo: My only reservation about defending against a potential suit from them is locating a very traditional, Southern, and genteel seersucker suit to wear while vamping about the courtroom.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Their pretense to that seems empty at this point. The question seems to be more along the lines of what they will pay to not have a ready baked fraud case delivered to the local prosecutors.
trinque: not that you should assume sense will suddenly flower in, as you put it, the damned.
BingoBoingo: Thanks to the papers left with their apparent counsel on Wednesday they have the long narrative I brough to the police which was summarized into the officer's much shorter "hecho policial." A narrative in which I spent hours making absolutely sure I did not perjure myself, referencing our correspondence and their marketing materials thoroughly.
trinque: if we don't learn from each other, what republic
BingoBoingo: trinque: I want to thank you again for the kick into action a week ago. I have had limited direct contact with damned this week, but it seems that Yesterday is the day it clicked for them as to just how absolutely fucked they can be.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I've been feeding folks here the idea "It must be very bad for business if the Government has to make deals with big companies individually. Imagine all the small and medium businesses that can not y will not bring jobs because the Fat Forehead government would have to negotiate individually y vivimos en el paisito.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Now the big problem Uruguay's had is that the Fat Foreheads are a coalition. This means that while each constituent sector has socialisms they want to push and areas they want to give room for takeable money to build up, the coalition aspect and retard bias towards hugging means that when they go to deal... Internally as a coalition they sacrifice the breathing room for business entirely and instead do a little bit of each kind
BingoBoingo: Now, pamphleteers from the various commie groups along with the dying "Colorado" party get the flash 404 list "Ya tengo" routine as well. Monday and Wednesday they got it all the way from the old city to Montevideo Shopping.
BingoBoingo: It slows down getting from point A to point B, and this mostly puts me in contact with older 40 to retired-ish folks. However, the big effect is it sucks all the energy out of the nearby socialists trying to hand out their lists.
BingoBoingo: Conversation happens from there.
BingoBoingo: My routine when encountering new folks distributing national party voting lists that aren't bored kids working for Sartori is 1. They offer me their list. 2. I flash the 404 list "Ya tengo, pero gracias porque estas ayudando el paisito"
BingoBoingo: trinque: Well, why would I close the gap with Commies, socialists, Maoists, and Pol Potists when there's a servicable party which is both "Orgulloso blanco" and nationalist
trinque: as they should
BingoBoingo: trinque: The sort of nodes leading here that I've been cultivating are of the sort that want to open the foreign money floodgates by cutting old woman wank out
trinque: perhaps those legislators would like to know how hard their countryman derps are making it to do business in uy
BingoBoingo: I also seem to have cut the number of meat-WoT seperating myself from legislators of various sorts
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: It hard for me to tell at this point if that is because the sort of work in this environment is new. There may also be an element of "these derps went from freely spreading their derpligion to forming a crowd and hiding in a glass box.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: The prospect does seem interesting. I'd need to actually apprentice, but so far it seems paralegal may be a great fit which could keep me in LATAM. I do feel more effective in LATAM than I would anywhere the derps *have to* English
mp_en_viaje: ie, this is also a practicable avenue for you, if the dc thing doesn't sound out.
mp_en_viaje: that's also a practicable avenue, erryone eg owning property will need one, the paralegal's the natural budding form of everything paperwork related, from real estate administration to govt lobbying, and the law's ~same from ag to cr.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-squares-and-the-holes-2/ << Trilema -- The squares, and the holes.
feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/10/26/the-final-evacuation-of-equipment-from-premises-of-the-damned/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- The Final Evacuation Of Equipment From Premises Of The Damned
mp_en_viaje: it's like talking to one of the website process dcs, just different 3ring contents
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 16:39:24 diana_coman: works; for now I'd say the main focus is on that business plan ; fwiw I would totally pay asciilifeform for the hosting right from the start, can calc what it amounts too once the data is published and plan is made.
mp_en_viaje: you're setting up another titanic every time you build one of these towers of non-committal.
asciilifeform: would rather read mp_en_viaje gripe about idiot dependencies than set up another titanic tho.
asciilifeform: the 2nd ed. of 'costs' piece is still on track for oct 27. but currently asciilifeform's conscience torments him, feels wrong to actually charge anyffin until i know whatthefuck it is that the upstream is worth. would like to persuade folx to test, like diana_coman .
asciilifeform: the trb's been keeping up better than any i've operated to date, but would be unscientific entirely to say that 3d of it mean anyffin.
asciilifeform: ( there's diana_coman , ersatz-dulap hosting http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log + bot, and a trb . )
asciilifeform: esp. given that there aint much load atm
asciilifeform: ^ too early to talk of 'unsinkable pipe' there
Bingoboingo: asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje doesn't have the problem of derp weather. He's got the problem of actually moving data.
asciilifeform: Bingoboingo: even the baseline pipe, came with all sortsa fancy guarantees. i'd like to find what they're actually worth.
Bingoboingo: Those photos, they add up
mp_en_viaje: idiots fucked tumblr now everyone's reading trilema to get their jollies off
asciilifeform would offer to mp_en_viaje another pilot, w/ properly written instruction manuals, but sadly cannot yet, the 'dulap' crates aint here yet, grr
asciilifeform: Bingoboingo: the diff b/w 'troo' and untroo is in ~heads~, not irons, imho. any idjit can buy spiffy-looking irons, classy fire extinguishers, other costume props.
mp_en_viaje: well the downside of al lthe travelblogging is that trilema's bustin' at the pipe seams again, da fuck i'm gonna do
asciilifeform: Bingoboingo: fwiw i was entirely fooled by latech's dressing up as 'actual datacenter', so cannot say 'yes, indeed, this is surely it'. but fwiw very diff. picture than what saw there. (e.g. each of the 3 halls is fully 4+x the size of latech's 1, and inhabited mostly by actual comps, not old 'dell's stacked in a heap, tho at least 1 halfcab in fact contained those). only time/actual usage can tell the diff b/w sham and troo dc, afai
Bingoboingo: Anyways, this shit is for the blog
Bingoboingo: I suspect they anticipated I would have been dumb enough to declare their boy as counsel or invite a nagfest despite... Their receipt of a certified telegram from muh boy.
Bingoboingo: Judging from the size of the crowd in the humans box today, I suspect offering them contact information for the counsel I did was a surprise.
Bingoboingo: asciilifeform: I expect your new home is far more resistant to fraud complaints concerning their failure to actually be a datacenter
asciilifeform: Bingoboingo: here, 3 halls, 1 packed, 2 ~half-full, none was anywhere as hot or loud as latech at the time i went there
asciilifeform: Bingoboingo: another ameri-dc oddity -- they dun seem to have a one standard voltage. the bmore people offered strictly 208v (where else in usa 208 ?!)
asciilifeform: Bingoboingo: fwiw the place was comfortably cool, and, more unusually, quiet (i.e. could have conversation standing 2m apart)
Bingoboingo: Well cooling makes or breaks their tier
asciilifeform: the sad dc i talked to earlier, was same. i suspect is how they meet thermal density spec.
Bingoboingo: The 9" needle nose also is THE tool for the retaining tabs on the supermicro rails. I imagine Linesmans would also work in a pinch, mebbe
asciilifeform: Bingoboingo: they only do 10a per halfcab (i.e. 20 for full), apparently .
asciilifeform: asked about it, 'this was the prev fella's, take it'
Bingoboingo: Probably because if you ask they'll wire you for 30 amps
asciilifeform: Bingoboingo: also came w/ a pdu but with 1 of those 30amp ameriplugs (90 degree prong) and could not be plugged into the new meter'd pdu, had to mothball
Bingoboingo: Rails came out MUCH easier than they went in.
Bingoboingo: And no m2 screws at all. Just oodles of my black #3 philips bolts the rack nuts eat. Rack nuts stripped as well so they can put their plastic airflow strips in.
Bingoboingo: And the patch panel
asciilifeform wonders if they'll have the 'chutzpa' to 'hey, there were 14 m2 screws when you moved in and now there are 13!' etc
Bingoboingo: There was an east indian fella working on a 1/2 cabinet. He borrowed my pliers to cut something. Did not ask why I was emptying a cabinet.
Bingoboingo: Everything is out of the cabinet in WTC 4. Uneventful other than I was received by a new face. Heavier, ginger bearded fella that had a private security/investigator look.
Bingoboingo: Meanwhile in other local wonderings https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/-que-puede-pasar-con-el-dolar-luego-de-las-elecciones--20191024182617
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-25 14:57:09 asciilifeform: ah right, not for another 6d
Bingoboingo: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-25#1948177 << To be clear they wrote their contract in a way that allows then to charge interest specifically LIBOR + 12% on late payment rather than declaring immediate default and suspension of service.
Bingoboingo: And if they guys aren't bringing pussy, I don't expect they'd be micro-MPs exempt from the rules
Bingoboingo: I expectd the rule with those places to be "No pussy, No pass"
Bingoboingo: Wait, they let those in?!
mp_en_viaje: basically, they're one of those dudes with no gf tryina talk to you at the swing club. "find a hand somewhere, talk to that"
mp_en_viaje: man willing to die for his 3 ring binder should feel the burn, not merely "conceptual death"
mp_en_viaje: you don' tsign anything, or even care, feel free to disdain the rats if you like that, they might as well feel the burn of their inconsequential arrangements,
mp_en_viaje: if they don't let you go in, just go back to original sectional.
mp_en_viaje: unless they hit you in the head with a power supply or something, you dun have what to talk about with the local cops.
Bingoboingo: Well due to orc tower hosting among other things on other floors, small country embassies... there's almost always one officer on site during business hours.
mp_en_viaje: it'll prolly work ~same as "free condo florida vacation", dweeby dude there in polyester shirt talking your ear off
Bingoboingo: Just in case I will be bringing my receipt from making the "hecho policial" and the laywer's card so I can make a phone call if they are dumb enough to do something REALLY stupid.
Bingoboingo: My impression of their counsel is differently pinoy
mp_en_viaje: can very well walk into house of "leader of the house" in washington, piss in his plate, and "lessee what you can do, big man ?"
mp_en_viaje: the things diana_coman was saying re dc isn't JUST dc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: right, seems like they're on 'indian call center' level
Bingoboingo: Per the contract language on late payment this time next month would still merely be late rather than default
mp_en_viaje: which is the position here : you can shrug, you can just as well laugh in their faces. they've been bitched, it's done.
asciilifeform: ah right, not for another 6d
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, their legal is outsourced shit, can't deal with the police report and so... they;ll takr their losses.
Bingoboingo: asciilifeform: Their contract lacks a retention clause. Also I am not in default with them
Bingoboingo: I replied by stating my lone intent today is peacefully retrieving my things, and that it seems in everyone's best interest to allow our legal empires the opportunity to discuss the other matters. Included the contract information of muh boy for their convenience and cc'd them
mp_en_viaje: Bingoboingo, they'll prolly show up to pester you about nonsense, feel free to shrug.
Bingoboingo: This morning I had in my inbox from Maxi of the damned: "Buen día. Está bien por mí. No hay problema en proceder a dicho retiro. Ello no implica renuncia o dispensa de la obligación de cumplir plenamente la obligación de pago prevista hasta la finalización del contrato."
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-25#1948161 << it needs another fix on my end, is going on conveyor.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, eh, i don't think they have it any season tbh.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/2019/decoupling-mp-wp-post-editing-from-the-www-interface << The Tar Pit -- Decoupling MP-WP post editing from the WWW interface
diana_coman: if only they also had internet in autumn ?
mp_en_viaje: ahhh, the fogs of prague. i'm so happy i came here in autumn, fucking beautiful.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 04:47:07 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947307 <-- defo interested and my schedule is open for changes/amendments come november. I am currently working a full-time saeculum gig, so I wouldn't be able to take this as a full-time thing, but I could do this in small weekly/monthly pieces, as with previous published work. so if you think this works and I'm th
mp_en_viaje: neways, ima to bed. megapost tomorrow sometime, if i can dig myself out of the slutpile. have a great time erryone & all!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-24 16:49:48 asciilifeform: apparently loox like 1 of those 'usg rolls up hp, sgi, cray, and gives their shredded bones to intel to eat' affairs.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-24#1948116 << ayup, precisely, usg paper asset thing, holding up a notional market.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-24 12:50:53 asciilifeform: ...and if you actually have the budget to even try.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-24#1948056 << he's not adding it, you add it, gotta subscribe to the feed. dunno about your own setup but on mp-wp it's something like !1subscribe http://thewhet.net/comments/feed/ or such.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-24#1948009 << it's always a crapshoot. you can get counsel worth millions through springing for a $500 nothing. eminent lottery ticket, only comparable to picking up girlfriends. famously (if fantastically) frank sinatra picked up the woman that died for him through buying her a ten dollar bus ticket.
mp_en_viaje: but in context of tmsr. again -- because there;s a heavy undertone here of "hire yourself out as apprentice" which i don't particularly want fucked.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-24 08:08:26 mp_en_viaje: hire someone when you're excellent at the job, not when you have nfi how to do it.
asciilifeform: imho it's 'cool' in only the sense e.g. halon system is 'cool'. i.e. when ~need~ and nuffin else will do. at all other times horror.
mp_en_viaje: it's not fucking cool, it's the death of a thousand cuts.
asciilifeform knows folx who use'em, but is strictly because they live in the middle of woods, or at sea, where 0 other choice but to suck thumb. no one actually ~likes~ sat modem
mp_en_viaje: "oh, clouds" "bitch, what ?! it's fucking clear" "oh no, no, ~ionospheric~ coulds" "fuck your mother,.
mp_en_viaje: satlink even worse. in fact, satlinks are a major pain in the fucking ass, i have nfi why even bother
mp_en_viaje: the ddos consists of the same exact substance highway of traffic jams -- czech republic's always "ddosd" late evening
BingoBoingo deceived... I intend to pursue the revocation of his law license through the relevant authorties.
BingoBoingo had a productive day. So far. Sat down with the fellow who recommended yesterday's audition. Told him that I was letting him know as a courtesy that after the meeting I developed the strong suspicion that the recommended fellow was the other party's counsel. That I don't know how good his relationship with the fellow is, but that I do not mind, and it may even help me if he warns the fellow that in the case I have been
asciilifeform: apparently loox like 1 of those 'usg rolls up hp, sgi, cray, and gives their shredded bones to intel to eat' affairs.
asciilifeform: ble network assets, customers, peering relationships and building access agreements for pennies on the dollar.'
asciilifeform: aand 'Although debuting at the height of the telecom industry, Cogent soon found vast market wealth eradicated and many other ISPs thrown into a state of turmoil. In a survival of the fittest competition, Cogent became the consolidator in a consolidating market. Over three brief years, Cogent completed 13 acquisitions of other flailing providers. Whether it was an entire company or just select assets, Cogent was able to acquire valua
asciilifeform meanwhile found a : 'Cogent Communications is a public company trading on the NASDAQ under the symbol CCOI. Cogent is headquartered in Washington, D.C., United States of America.' from horse's mouth.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: thank you, that comment certainly works better there (and answered!); no idea re node in kiev.
BingoBoingo prepping to go work the legs
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do the books, but imho oughta get mp's pov before actually paying anyone.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I will get the numbers, but my naive understanding is debt before equity. Customers before other equity. But first I have to do the numbers.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mod6 : thinking about it, i realized i have nfi what the priority order of creditors is. thought, 'customers go 1st' strictly from example of bitbet unwind.
BingoBoingo: And most of the construction code.
BingoBoingo: Civil code longer, but it also holds all the family law.
asciilifeform: mod6, BingoBoingo : afaik the refund for subscribers is the 1 equation w/out any unknowns. so oughta happen as soon as BingoBoingo is ready.
BingoBoingo: Pretty sure I said this before, but is was nice to be able to read the whole of this country's penal code in a few hours.
mod6: Sounds good, take the time you need to review it all, etc. Seems sensible.
BingoBoingo: mod6: This weekend I hope to get the opportunity to sit down and do the accounting. Last weekend my hope to do so was beaten by time consuming yet time sensitive legaling.
mod6: Would this be a good time to calculate, then refund Piz customers who've paid in advance?
BingoBoingo: The meeting with him also opened with a FAR harder grilling than the meeting with apparently opposition counsel did.
BingoBoingo: The Monday guy, through his holding down the Montevideo outpost of an international... He benefits from big firm forced professional development. He know the ways Uruguay sucks compared to the outside world and the ways it doesn't because he's been forced to travel.
BingoBoingo: If the truly damaging denuncia is filed before they can sit down... kinda spoils the sitting down. Once a denuncia is filed it goes to the local prosecutors office.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: All that went into the first "hecho policial" was what the officer read out of mine narrative, not what I actually wrote. The second, far more damaging to the damned complaint comes if they refuse to deal and contain their liability.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: but the fraud wasn't actually in the text of the 1st ? so then gotta file 2nd