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(trilema) diana_coman: at the same time upping the writing productions all around so there's *less* time to read it, too! :D
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: the article is not bad at all; how was it timewise and/or feet dragging-wise?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: add the patch+context to the write-up, sure; re tired, you'll have to figure it out but focused work can do that at times, lol; break/refresh/nap even helps.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: thing is, they will go wrong whether you conceptualize them or not; and the apparent-defense is worse than no defense in that it masks the problem until it becomes a beast.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, for now do the figuring out and the write up and the problem(s) description + options you see and we'll work out a proper process from there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's not the network that crashes after all, but your code.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: uhm, for the first reason, if it crashes, it's the code that crashes so the fault is in there and as a result, not much gain from separating.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: why did you choose separate unix processes vs single process?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: btw, your description above was fun to read anyway; my "write it as satire and have fun" earlier was not random either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at any rate and to state it clearly: it's not that I consider CentOS 6 to be some great OS or anything of the sort. It's just that I don't currently have anything better to put in its place and it is at least not changing aka not creating more work for no reason.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re updates vs patches what/where do you mean?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: re CentOS tbh I do not upgrade and that's that; the whole old-holes vs new-holes can easily be stated in quite a few interesting ways (perhaps the most appropriate being the good ol' are you with the party -and so we'll commiserate at your loss though ofc you'll lose- or are you not with the party and so you are to blame for (all) loss(es).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: good; that comes first; then the write-up; then decision/discussion; only after all that any implementation.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: yes, cl-irc part
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: if you are done with reading&understanding that cl part you are using, then write up what you have and then add to it what problems you are trying to solve + what options you see
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and damn it, now I really need to recall the name of that rrmartin story.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: how about manually v-ing for now, it's not like you need a ton of presses of very complicated trees, is it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it should never be "oh, this looks like it might solve it, let's go"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: solving a problem is always a matter of a. properly identifying what the problem IS in the first place b. scoping it out c. figuring out the options to address the problem d. choosing one option (with clear reasons too!)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: uhm, re that plan on get-all-channels etc - it seems to me you should first set out to write properly your understanding of the whole thing and only then look at that and identify the best way to do what you want done
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: wait, so are you done with the fixes and otherwise figuring out the cl part and everything else?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: all right, apply the fixes first and then schedule somwhere the write-up of what's in there too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: now why does my blog spam keep asking me -and in Romanian too! - to order birthday cake in Kazan of all places and things to order.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: btw, from the sounds of it, what makes you avoid/postpone/drag your feet there is not perceived difficulty but outright perfectionism getting in the way.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: how long do you think it would take you to write down a schema of what your bots/full setup do exactly? e.g. the pseudocode of it all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the log-summary can turn in log-satire even; I'll probably enjoy reading it all the more for that!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: even better, take the writing on the #t logs as the fun part of the catchup and so write it whichever way you'd like to, be it picking and pointing what you enjoyed reading or poking fun at parts or whatever else!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: so listen, do your reading of #t to catch-up and then for writing go ahead with the practice of summarising what you read of #t but *without* pressure on the result being "a faithful summary of all points" or whatever else; let it be exactly a summary of your recollection (if you need to, brand it as such, it's your own blog and you can write there "what happened to stick" too, what!)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: yes, it takes time; no, there's no hurry nor pressure on *this* front so don't add it yourself where it doesn't belong
(ossasepia) diana_coman: add to that the fact that #t logs are not an easy read either and so take the time to appreciate and enjoy the steps you took on that long road really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: summarising is not an easy task at best of times (because it means basically that you fully digested the whole thing and are then able to re-tell any/all of it at whatever level of detail you choose; there's a LOT going on to end up with a good summary, let alone an excellent one)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-24#1015984 - ahaha; well, if you get to cleaning ovens, the whole house and start looking for maybe digging as well the garden you don't have, *then* you'll know for sure you're truly avoiding there something!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-24#1015980 - this type of situation (too many/too quick reconnects) sounds like something you'd want reported to you/flagged too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lolz, appropriate.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: to add something concrete, I'm known to have taken the time (not all that little either though very concentrated) while otherwise drowning in 1001 ugly and complicated things to do, to ...translate a whole poem; the thing is - I needed that as disconnect and once I got that out, I worked better on the rest as well.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: indeed re butterflies, since they are part of you and still best to get along very well with yourself, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: glad to hear it and no reason for glum then, that's both a crucial and not-easy part!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: how's the work on the wallet thing going this week?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that can be I guess though I can't say I saw much of that; it's more the other way around if anything - ie ignoring your own because it works for another to ignore his might backfire (because not quite the same otherwise, eh)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: yes but you know, each with their own species of butterflies, lolz
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: in a very broad sense for "prerequisites", yes; but figuring out what sort those are is pretty much the key and in some cases they can simply be of the sort "this *seems* too ugly/difficult/I-don't-like-it"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: does this explanation make sense to you?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: it did seem to be off again, hence my question really; but if you say you are aware and moving it in the right direction, good.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: ^ is for you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman didn't dig out the link for ref but it's in one of your plans/reviews of last year.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: also, how is that older getting back to daylight schedule and proper sleep at night?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahaha, all right then; and yeah, switch things around during the day if/when/as needed, what; that being said - hm, wasn't it supposed to be jfw-on-irc from about 7 utc rather than 8? lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: both/whichever is a problem, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for that you'll just have to budget somewhere explicitly "filter photos" , there's no way around it ever ; but it doesn't have to count as "writing" since it's not really, either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: aha; is that a problem / not something you want to start on either or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: what/where/why are you stuck with the writing now though?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: but more to the point here, there is that set yourself up for best results at all times, it's possible, worth it and no shame at all, quite the opposite.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: you know, lack of practice with failure can at times bite too, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: did you count in there the fact that "trying to do all those" is currently yet-another-something-new and therefore a *task* in itself that you are taking on?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: take your time, I'll be around for quite a while still.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: Sunday the 27th though doesn't fit my calendar though, lol; you did this in the plan/review before so maybe check your calendar mon/sun thing; it's either Sunday 26th or Monday 27th, isn't it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (sadly not today though, sorry.)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: btw, it was a pleasure to read your answer; and yes, you certainly and visibly are growing into the roles indeed; there is some more to be said on the integration part, hopefully we'll get to that soon/in a few days too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: yes, he needs to practice some lighter first-pass too, for sure
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at which point I realise I never got to write-up the notes re client on centos, huh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: re guide for installing on centos, the fedora guide is closest basically.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it is; and it makes for nauseous reading.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: that may be, but not a reason to mix up the enumeration like that; make up your mind whether you enumerate the *sort of things you need* or your particular preferences and stick to it for the whole of one sentence at least ffs.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: also, it doesn't even require a graphics stack but if you mean for pictures, then at least add to the list imagemagick or gimp or feh - whatever you plan to use to process the pictures.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: why /since when does blogging *require* emacs?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the above could be again restated as the older "get over yourself", sure, but I think it's way better to get *on with* yourself simply.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ... reports it "cold" and the other "warm" - while you even know why and how and everything, did the hands get "fooled" or not? the perception is what it is and gets reported as such regardless of what higher-level thinking says)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (re "ploy" and all that, note that there's no fooling, just using the existing mechanism quite on purpose; if you want a practical example of that, do that simple experiment with temperature: get some water at room temperature, some hotter and some colder; keep for a while one hand in the cold water, one in the hotter; then put both (one at a time for less confusing direct reading) in the room temperature water and see how one ...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: hence, it's worth indeed to have first another open minded look at the signal, sure; so - what is it you got stuck on?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so indeed if you got that initial part wrong, then the problem is different and therefore the solution to it will be different too
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it is true however that the above will work *only* if you interpreted the signal correctly in the first place
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hence the if you don't like that, here's worse so that you'll like it
(ossasepia) diana_coman: perceptions/projections of the sort "I don't like it" are relative, there's no escape to that part
(ossasepia) diana_coman: then the answer to that is a straightforward escalation without any pretense
(ossasepia) diana_coman: rather than "I need to sort out something else first in order to be able to start on this"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if you interpreted that as simply "I hate what I need to do for this"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-23#1015837 - to flesh this out some more: dragging your feet on getting started on something is still a signal (others call it at times laziness, plenty of ways to call it too)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: what was your writing/reading plan today and how did that go?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as everywhere, some balance works better really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-23#1015862 - dorion do note though that this has its downside too in that you are shifting some costs on those others and taken to that extreme as a usual thing it's not a great thing either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-23#1015858 - linked at the root with not being all that comfortable with handling uncertainty
(ossasepia) diana_coman needs to go but will be back later to add to this.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: also, valid for everyone really: while I do pay attention to you to figure out way more than you say, it *does* work way better and it does help *a lot* if you actually provide feedback too rather than waiting for me to know it all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: listen to your manager there!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: *are* you getting all that glum there?
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu: ha! I did look in disbelief at the length of my own "comment" - it's longer than some articles I published at other times!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: hm, you don't seem to quite get the idea though: it's not even meant to "fool", no, and it's not about more important either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-23#1015817 - glad to hear it; but myeah, that's exactly the sort of expected nonsense otherwise.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-22#1015811 - ah, the way you said it earlier it sounded like you did precisely some #t catchup; don't you have exactly that in plan somewhere too anyway/
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-22#1015809 - what doubts exactly? spell them out, maybe there is something to them or maybe it highlights a different trouble.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (I'll admit though that the filtering-cost is one reason why I tend to take few photos rather than many; on top of a whole pile of other reasons but anyways.)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re photos, the culling will have to end up in that bucket of "either it gets done within this much SET time or ALL of them get published ffs"; ofc, it helps if you choose that set time wisely but anyways, can't then spend a day picking photos either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but anyway, why didn't you make the summary of what you read?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: heh, one way to make all that avoidance work for you is to set it up explicitly (need to do task A you hate? cool, set up task B that you hate even more!)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for the female side I'm partial to angela gheorghiu (and she has excellent diction) but then she's Romanian :p
(ossasepia) diana_coman: since I'm at it and specifically re escamillo part, my recommendation would be to find it sang by nicolai ghiaurov.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: np; and not like there's any rush with that or anything.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, anything *well done* can be beautiful to watch, sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'd have thought you had enough live experience with that part too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: lol! why u so focused on the wrong side!!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: despite the toreador + name, the whole carmen is usually performed in French.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahahah, is that "expert" you think?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but yes, whenever you "go with the flow" set generically like that, you are pretty much going into a ~trap by definition; going with the flow can be fine but only *after* you know it so well that you go more into/out of it as you wish rather than being carried on/by it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dunno, if you wanted to watch something getting gor'd, I'd have say at least go for the bull getting it, not the matador, you see?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: while searching for that php bug thread, I found the pickpocket thread I couldn't find yesterday.
(trilema) diana_coman: trinque: that stripping of html tags sounds like the known bug related to php version; iirc it was included in some vpatch though.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well, addressing the difference between choosing matadors getting gor'd vs el torero escamillo, you know? and it goes further than just the music/video or the writing or this specific instance even.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (yes, I had a laugh but still, there is something to it too).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: hm, you'll have to ask a better question really; exactly as it says: how you set yourself up in/for a situation does matter too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: see, learn to set yourself up better, what.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for that matter, it might make better Spanish practice than becky g, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: ahahah, I do hope you wrote that to el torero escamillo!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hopefully you did document/ keep notes re those tweaks required for different mysql versions.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: did you finish that mpwp bot prep that was due yest iirc?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: yeah, read the log on the os install adventures.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: iirc at least some higher end GPUs might need the auxiliary PCIe cable as they basically don't get enough power just through the slot
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: your question was not that clear as you just stated above though, ugh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: fwiw that part with the "1 week sleep deprivation" terrible exercise got me laughing the most
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahaha, the whirlwind-you is welcome of course but otherwise here things be of the boring type!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: why don't you check the spec for your components, it should say exactly, no?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: quite the whirlwind of fun in hawaii by the sounds of it, good for you!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: re computer sounds fine.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lol, that's one sort of new and familiar, can be.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: I got what you meant, just being amused otherwise because despite knowing what you mean, I am - if anything - even less able to take a decent picture of something new than of something more familiar.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: if by normal you mean "perpendicular" (to my disposition at times if to nothing else), I'll fully agree to that - it doesn't take much time at all!! lolz
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: more recent former money place I guess.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: oh hey, nice photos, whaack ! and you basically showed Panama City more than jfw and dorion so far combined, ha! takes a non-local to publish photos of a place, it would seem.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: aha, not a bad idea; and in general, tidying stuff neatly up tends to be at the end precisely because otherwise it might get untidy again before everything is done.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so then consider it, sure; it's *your* plan and it should serve you best, first and foremost.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so then, does that require a list of what gets zip tied and cable directions? (it might or it might not, but it's your decision since you defined the goal of what you need, so ..up to you)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that's where everything else should come from; so: what's the goal of this plan of yours?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: no need for cable-level of detail, no; whenever in such doubt, focus on what the goal of the plan (or whatever it is you are working on) really is
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: ahaha, no, no need for that or you'll loop forever in the meta-metas; I simply meant if you needed to clarify anything on that front.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: good then; any trouble re plan for your computer?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: wasn't there some article too?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyone else in need of work around here? speak up, there's plenty to pass around!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: enough work there to keep you busy ? clear enough so you know what you need to do?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahaha, it did sound rather too good to be true, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: let eliza be for the moment; it might be a good idea but it will get evaluated when the problem and its extent are clear, not just slapped on now because "it seems like a good idea" , ugh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: so then look into it, since you are relying on it for the whole thing.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: is cl-irc that huge/gnarly that it's a huge project to look and find out how it handles those exact certain things that you don't know about but need?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: is the whole code clear to you now how and why it works and what is going on in there?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it makes sense since otherwise you'd see empty lines anyway so not much gain; that's not a problem there
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: first of all get to the bottom of the connect/reconnect and kick/not kick, anyway; eliza-light comes afterwards and only if really justified.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but it's not yet even clear it's worth the effort
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and anyways, their bans are for some number of days, can even rotate etc.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, unintentional implementation is ....
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well, their "fighting the oh-noez-spam-not-ours" is from what I see a combination of "oh, you won't answer me???" and that co-channeling lulz; the rest is just repetition really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyway, fix so it doesn't reconnect on kick for starters; get to the bottom of that 4354 disconnects vs 4440 joins, if at all possible; add whatever additional logging you need to have full information on hand and preferably timely delivered too; maybe start with a smaller trial that you can monitor more closely to figure out what's going on, if needed
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I mean: there's so much fun to be had there but you do need to be better at it than their lame efforts, seriously.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well, overall it sounds like you should first understand a bit better just what exactly your bots are doing there and how, really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but not that much variety, hm.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: "You have been found co-channeling in one or more blacklisted channels"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and at any rate, it's not like all networks are invited to dump all their issues for whaack to have what to address.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: they can certainly say hello but I doubt that's the issue really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: eh, I'm not (yet) trying to take over all chans too!
(ossasepia) diana_coman hands whaack a shovel.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: no data re kicks themselves?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so hm, join/part spam aka...connection flicker??
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: any reason given on first kick? because the ban makes sense afterwards given the kick/rejoin dance, ofc.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: there was my previous clear statement re if kicked let the chan be but mk, test run and all that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: this is quite important too because ahem, if you don't figure out and solve it, there's not going to be much systematic anything there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: the same on other VMs or was there only one connected?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hrm, now there's even a sf story for you but finish the odyssey or it'll take longer than it took ulysses by the sounds of it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: well, before "fixing" it, you *have to* investigate what the fuck the problem is in the first place, you know?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: when you say they were kicked do you mean you looked and ~all were kicked or do you mean you saw some kicked and so "bots were kicked"?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: why were the bots kicked in the first place anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: iirc deadline is tomorrow so that sounds fine, glad to hear it; and no need to rush/skip the final review either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: so how's that Hawaii article going wrt to the current deadline for it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: note the difference there between your stated "more" (risk, be it smart) and my "less" (dumb risk); while "more of smart and less of dumb" may be the theoretical ideal, the practice is best served by focusing on the "less" first; it also makes for more calm and less stress really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: some unbalance in that direction may be even better! but yes, setting yourself up for less dumb risk will do wonders and on more fronts than one really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: you do like living dangerously, don't you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman will be back tomorrow.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahaha; delayed-notice!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sounds... wise!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but sure, if/when you do fool yourself, it'll be an intricate thing, not the easy stuff; lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: you are not; but you are also quite good at talking yourself into anything you want if you really choose to; basically it cuts both ways since yeah, it's ...you with you, you know?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: getting back to http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-01-19#1015507 - the point is that if you decide something is worth another read, then you should explicitly schedule and do it; anything other than that is just pretense really as it will never happen so best not pretended either; you decide either way at any time but just ...don't lie to yourself, it's not worth it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: eh, you are a celebrity-bird, that's why they knew you!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for that matter, never discussed any logs/trilema stuff at a Junto?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I guess dorion goes for the scan, you go for the deep dive, on average it balances out all right over some cervezas or something, there's that possibility too.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: precisely!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: then it's not much of an "adjust the speed" really; it's more of a "change your speed"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: glad to know it! only boring stuff around here really, testing, going to sleep when tired, speaking up when needing to communicate, seriously, boring.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so for catch-up situations, you can have a quicker read; then again, if after that you never get around to re-read any of it..
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so to some extent you should be able to *adjust* the speed when/if needed; the logs like all other text can also be re-read
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: how fast/slow you read the logs is likely to depend on how deep you want to go into whatever is discussed + to what extent it is (or not) familiar to you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: talking of 2 problems in one solution
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: even better: write up summary of the day's log; so you get your reading + your writing :D
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the trouble with always handling only what's burning is that one is then basically firefighting; no wonder stressed up too, sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it occurs to me that I should possibly start eating people up for NOT speaking really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: so then re-adjust: next week plan at least a few days without article and with reading #t instead; anyway, does it take longer than the 1.5 hours/day? iirc there wasn't any really heavy log-day lately, was there?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: was the writing of those articles that ate up your time otherwise or what specifically?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cool, so look at it through that lens then, do simply speak up (I haven't yet eaten anybody around here for speaking up, have I?) and it'll be fine.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: if/when it's already late, might even work better to at least not snowball it: adjust the expectations of everyone for the bit that is late and focus on the one(s) that can still be done on time unless the priorities really are reversed; but seriously, don't get so stressed about it all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: no need to *get to the stress* even, wtf.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: that's why I keep saying that the time to speak up about missing a deadline (and therefore to ADJUST the plan too!) is the day before the deadline, not the day of the deadline nor the one after nor "never", you know?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: the flexible part is that re-evaluate and adjust if/when needed, yes; not sure what are you saying there though, that weekly re-evaluation is too coarse?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: conscious of the plan I'm sure you are but the part that is not all that clear is how you deal with it esp when you are behind/it starts falling apart.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: well, overall if looking back at all of it really, on the bright side, you'll do one way or another those parts that are absolutely crucial; and otherwise for the rest, well....
(ossasepia) diana_coman: basically a less boring way of taxing
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahaha, that's really more like a tax agreement than anything else
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I guess uni time in Bucharest came at least with a side education on this, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at least in the specific way they are interested in, of course.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: they are actually quite good at reading people for that matter.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what BingoBoingo says above ; but more to the point: pickpockets do not randomly choose targets (or they won't last long really)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: not being robbed etc is not a matter of luck really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: so how do you pick what you work on when you get some time?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: BingoBoingo: that's quite likely indeed that he's not that good at dealing with crowds at all; but I'd still say best read from some ...distance, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: you around at all?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: ahaha, that is one way to encourage him!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so yeah, efficient better than inefficient, sure!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: you know, quite a big part of that style jfw says is mine comes pretty much from... lacking time to beat around various bushes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but that aside, packing more than one problems into one solution is otherwise not a bad idea at all; just pick problems and solution wisely, that's all, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, hard guarantees, yes? can't be much harder than that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: even better, you'll learn to swim too! esp with those rip currents in CR, there can't be a better place to learn to swim !
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: see, alternatively you move to CR, get into surfing and then apparently your schedule will switch by itself even, problem(s) solved!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: you know, if you are burnt out/tired then, logically speaking, go to sleep, what; no matter what the hour, if too tired to do anything useful, then go to sleep.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh, if he goes to sleep early too then; not even a bad idea at all for that matter.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: you're welcome; and do speak up on it anytime if you're stuck/want feedback.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and yes, plenty of various ways to do it really but... only if you want (that hard want meaning) to do it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: make clear to yourself your own priorities and then align your actions to those
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: well, I'm not going to find solutions for you there but note that 2 days out of every 7 is going to take a very long time indeed to get anywhere
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's not even all that much after your effort really as after your time, basically keeping you... busy.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: myeah, that's the trouble with full-time saltmine esp if still screen-based really; it still eats up the day pretty much, regardless of "easy" or not.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: even if you had "plenty of time Thursday in any case" (which predictably, you didn't), the trouble starts with the very framing there: it's not about whether you have "enough time later for this or that" but rather: what did you do actually useful with the time on Monday and Tuesday?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: take your time.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lobbes: well, in a few words it would be "through purposeful practice/review/feedback loop" really; but specifically for this instance, how did it go in the end like that since iirc your plan provided for some incremental work on it througout the week and then it ended all up on Friday+spill out on Saturday ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sounds sensible.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: not sure it's really worth previewing as you go really but anyways, if you'd rather it took less time, find ways that work for you to streamline it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: uhm; fwiw I tend to write the whole thing as draft in some .txt, tags included and all that; then into mpwp + preview + edit and publish, that's it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as in writing the html tags or what?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as for faster, it should get faster with practice and/or improvement of process if there's some part that's really just overhead; what's that html overhead anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, certainly not all the code and not in the same level of detail, sure; there's no "same for everything", no.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: hm, slow as in "I wish this went faster" or slow as in "not worth this much time on it"?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: how do you find writing those gbw-node draft articles?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: whaack: sounds like the usual "popular entertainment" experience really.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: are those weekly plans & reviews more useful to you on Fridays in the end or on Sundays or not that useful at all or what?
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