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(trilema) mike_c: heh. just that title is hilarious.
(trilema) mike_c: www.coindesk.com/mp-says-dooglus-moving-to-argentina/
(trilema) mike_c: hehe. true.
(trilema) mike_c: this seems like a pretext to get out, no? but maybe he just wants to walk away.
(trilema) mike_c: certainly still has some value. i'm sure he will get multiple offers.
(trilema) mike_c: first 8 months were all > 100k, last 4 months were all well below.
(trilema) mike_c: hm. a return to 6 digit wager volume would surprise me. but it's quite possible new management could make it happen.
(trilema) mike_c: still though, 60k in wager volume a month is a nice business.
(trilema) mike_c: could be player-fatigue (rolling dice is only so much fun). could be competition, but i don't know who.
(trilema) mike_c: like who? its dropped a lot. set new all-time-lows 3 out of 6 months this year.
(trilema) mike_c: but who knows why
(trilema) mike_c: on the one hand, casinos have been around since.. forever. on the other, JD volume has been dropping.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;later tell ThickAsThieves it needs to be a NS record, not a CNAME
(trilema) mike_c: 0e-8 is more zero than 0
(trilema) mike_c: you can probably dig it up with the fancy new search tool.
(trilema) mike_c: well, the consensus was to do it and all the world cup expiration dates were moved out.
(trilema) mike_c: ^ this is also applicable to the "in-game betting" conversation from the other day
(trilema) mike_c: tar and feather before hanging
(trilema) mike_c: lol. jurov, that image will definitely be useful in the future.
(trilema) mike_c: candian, french, not much difference
(trilema) mike_c: ThickAsThieves: you see my comment the other day about altcoin-seeder?
(trilema) mike_c: not like i have all of romania reading it or anything.
(trilema) mike_c: what's the point of charging? if i ever want to make some pennies i'll toss up a BB affiliate ad.
(trilema) mike_c: srlsy no charge? yeah. it's a loss leader.
(trilema) mike_c: but no, i don't really expect to ever charge.
(trilema) mike_c: thestringpuller: i'm more likely to pay people to read it than to charge :)
(trilema) mike_c: mthreat: got it. thanks. very cool page.
(trilema) mike_c: maybe he didn't! is assbot not indexed?
(trilema) mike_c: that feels unlikely. mircea never said f.derp?
(trilema) mike_c: well, i was trying to search for "f.derp", but seems it didn't like the period
(trilema) mike_c: source code will have to be updated too obv, to add seeds.therealtco.org to the inital seed list.
(trilema) mike_c: so ThickAsThieves, if you put a nameserver record in your DNS (NS, not an A record) pointing seeds.therealaltcoin.org at the above IP address, we should have seeding.
(trilema) mike_c: ^ altcoin-seeder seems to be working
(trilema) mike_c: dig @54.197.241.190 seeds.therealaltcoin.org
(trilema) mike_c: i believe withdrawal/asset transfers are the same
(trilema) mike_c: understood. i just see you as a good potential customer for coinbr, so I was trying to dig into why you were hesitant. i think i get it.
(trilema) mike_c: but even that was better tested. hypothesis was formed before the analysis, not as a result of the analysis.
(trilema) mike_c: strategy like MPIF's is really based more on a belief about how the system works rather than statistical analysis.
(trilema) mike_c: punkman: you can cut up the data you have into pieces. but I really don't think there's enough for much confidence in results.
(trilema) mike_c: yup, i got that. just talking about the fees.
(trilema) mike_c: TheNewDeal: last comment from me, i'm really not trying to sell you. But that 'tiny percentage' you were talking about from hedge fund managers is usually 2%. which is the same fee as coinbr in your 10 BTC example.
(trilema) mike_c: heh, yes. "can't" is a strong word.
(trilema) mike_c: punkman: you should look into some of the theory about backtesting. like, you can't use the same data you develop your hypothesis on to test your strategy.
(trilema) mike_c: right up until you're wrong :)
(trilema) mike_c: except kako, who won't take any money unless he thinks he earns it (very un-hedge fund like)
(trilema) mike_c: besides performance fees
(trilema) mike_c: hm. hedge fund managers get a fee too.
(trilema) mike_c: well.. something's gotta cost. brokers aren't free.
(trilema) mike_c: how would you feel if the monthly fee were lower and the trading fees higher?
(trilema) mike_c: ok. lemme ask this then. if you thought you could get a 20% return on coinbr in a year, would you invest 10 btc?
(trilema) mike_c: well, it does if you're comfortable putting 10 btc in bitbet and not coinbr
(trilema) mike_c: interesting. jurov, you need more WoT :)
(trilema) mike_c: but you would be comfortable putting that much on bitbet?
(trilema) mike_c: ok. so point #1, you think it's too expensive. but why wouldn't you be comfortable putting in 10 btc?
(trilema) mike_c: ok, i'm with you
(trilema) mike_c: i'm not trying to bust balls, i'm honestly curious.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;gettrust TheNewDeal jurov
(trilema) mike_c: you think coinbr is too much counterparty risk?
(trilema) mike_c: coinbr is full featured these days.
(trilema) mike_c: all i'm saying is, if you think you have an edge, whip up some IDIFF.SEP contracts.
(trilema) mike_c: the majority were late when it was obvious.
(trilema) mike_c: k. betting that difficulty won't double in a month is not "betting against diff"
(trilema) mike_c: hehe. it was implied by "some people can't calculate"
(trilema) mike_c: ok, so with your superior prognostication, what weight did you get on the may bet?
(trilema) mike_c: diff is mean-spirited asshole.
(trilema) mike_c: TheNewDeal: everyone says that because 1) you can't draw a line from previous diff changes to future (see moore's law), and 2) despite this it just keeps marching up.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, we lose. it's ok, we had good odds.
(trilema) mike_c: benkay: ugh. sounds worth paying for.
(trilema) mike_c: so, g++ was crashing because not enough memory. it couldn't just tell me that? have to get retarded cryptic error message cuz it ran out of memory?
(trilema) mike_c: news flash: bitcoind sucks.
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: you know bitcoind apparently takes in amounts in fucking btc, not satoshis? you probably knew this. this is retarded.
(trilema) mike_c: you know, without the annoying manager.
(trilema) mike_c: and also, fu linux. g++: internal compiler error: Killed
(trilema) mike_c: somebody who is poor knows which truck has the money. i guess you take that guy out back after he drives the truck where it is going.
(trilema) mike_c: ok. that computes. seems like a logistical nightmare though. who guards the dump truck with $400m in it?
(trilema) mike_c: yeah. 4m bills / 450 grams per lb
(trilema) mike_c: 9,000 lbs of money..
(trilema) mike_c: ;;calc 4000000 / 450
(trilema) mike_c: asciilifeform: so you're saying they filled up some duffel bags and walked out with $400m? that must have been heavy.
(trilema) mike_c: i dun understand
(trilema) mike_c: who understands this: "ISIL stole $400 million in a raid on Mosul's central bank". what, it was stacked in the corner in bills?
(trilema) mike_c: ;;ident assbot
(trilema) mike_c: some schmuck
(trilema) mike_c: it's just looking for something said X weeks ago that's a pita
(trilema) mike_c: ^ agreed. pretty easy to search today's log.
(trilema) mike_c: how is betting no on everything random?
(trilema) mike_c: impressive.
(trilema) mike_c: net or gross?
(trilema) mike_c: or, median result?
(trilema) mike_c: median gain?
(trilema) mike_c: ;;rate mats 1
(trilema) mike_c: my point was it is using cloudflare
(trilema) mike_c: it's a starting point, not an endpoint.
(trilema) mike_c: you can't. nor can you specify the tax code in plain language.
(trilema) mike_c: so i guess it's a euphimism for dumb language.
(trilema) mike_c: for sure, you can't speak about things intelligently with plain language. i can't tell you what's wrong with your computer in plain language.
(trilema) mike_c: it's about yea big
(trilema) mike_c: i think it's somewhat valid. plain = not a lot of jargon.
(trilema) mike_c: BingoBoingo: cancel the celebration party.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;bc,stats
(trilema) mike_c: ugh. shame on your family.
(trilema) mike_c: just roll your own. new standard.
(trilema) mike_c: so maybe we just do it manually for now.
(trilema) mike_c: ok. i would like for some eager dev to port bitcoin-seeder, but nobody has volunteered yet.
(trilema) mike_c: kakobrekla: but that error handling! kudos to us :)
(trilema) mike_c: aww. i blame JD
(trilema) mike_c: btw, free money alert. mpif ask below nav.
(trilema) mike_c: plus he got it wrong. it's MPEx, not MPex.
(trilema) mike_c: heh, the replies to all of karpeles recent tweets are great. what did he think was going to happen?
(trilema) mike_c: decimation:if you total the amount of money spent on microsoft over the years, USG could have built its own secure OS and secure hardware to run it on << on the other hand, they couldn't even build a fucking website with hundreds of millions of dollars.
(trilema) mike_c: whoops, somebody just dropped 60 btc on JD. there goes another startup.
(trilema) mike_c: in case you didn't realize, it's complicated! :D
(trilema) mike_c: it's complicated. i'll ponder some more.
(trilema) mike_c: of course, the stock is generally restricted..
(trilema) mike_c: there are both, the PR and the accounting. the PR being cash + stock + incentives. but cash + stock is accounting
(trilema) mike_c: so you could use that purchase price. this does get complicated with (cash + stock + incentives) though.
(trilema) mike_c: well, facebook doesn't just announce a 20bn purchase. they are public, they have to record what they pay.
(trilema) mike_c: i'm not sure i see one you will like.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah.. but if the returns are not well connected to the returns fiat investors see (btc forex risk ignored) it may not have the effect you are looking for.
(trilema) mike_c: it just feels like a situation where bitpay fiat investors would clean up but d.bpay investors could lose big.
(trilema) mike_c: to rephrase: buying a $1b asset does not change market cap.
(trilema) mike_c: well, acquisition is liquidity event for bitpay investors, but if appropriately priced would not affect acquirer's short-term market cap.
(trilema) mike_c: chetty: he paid him ;)
(trilema) mike_c: ;;isitdown mpex.coinbr.com
(trilema) mike_c: you add a bunch of A records in the DNS for active nodes. i'll let you know.
(trilema) mike_c: sure, it's not a web page though, it's a DNS thing
(trilema) mike_c: ok, ok. this has nothing to do with the animal.
(trilema) mike_c: oh :) is the porcupine community into bitcoin?
(trilema) mike_c: http://porcfest.com/ hmm, i don't think this is what you're talking about.
(trilema) mike_c: fluffypony: no, this is an example.
(trilema) mike_c: or at least liquid, since they were already rich in value.
(trilema) mike_c: whereas bitpay investors will get rich.
(trilema) mike_c: if that is true, it doesn't make a ton of sense to me. if Facebook pays the right amount for BitPay, market cap shouldn't move. Facebook will be -$1b in cash and +$1b in value due to bitpay.
(trilema) mike_c: if i understand: BitPay get acquired by Facebook. D.BPAY holders are entitled to some share of the increase in facebook market cap.
(trilema) mike_c: tredos something something?
(trilema) mike_c: i think amazon runs custom droid builds
(trilema) mike_c: it might have :)
(trilema) mike_c: i saw. wise decision.
(trilema) mike_c: if only there were a way to verify who wrote an email..
(trilema) mike_c: (and i may or may not be talking my book here)
(trilema) mike_c: but since it hasn't been announced yet, i assume capped.
(trilema) mike_c: i would hope so. diff flipped on the 18th though.
(trilema) mike_c: just highlighting him :)
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu hasn't said anything
(trilema) mike_c: dangerous trading on settlement day.
(trilema) mike_c: i assume that means it will be capped.
(trilema) mike_c: no settlement announcement yet
(trilema) mike_c: doesn't look like it, ignore me.
(trilema) mike_c: #! /usr/whatever
(trilema) mike_c: don't you need a space?
(trilema) mike_c: possiblity? SR coins can be sold now. DPR coins can't be sold until conviction.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, very cool. when do we get to play with it?
(trilema) mike_c: core dev? any spare time to port to altcoin-seeder?
(trilema) mike_c: seeds.fluffypony.org
(trilema) mike_c: so.. you're saying you'll run it ;)
(trilema) mike_c: but right now we are at ground zero with seeding.
(trilema) mike_c: well that sounds like a nice enhancement eventually
(trilema) mike_c: don't work what way?
(trilema) mike_c: they don't appear to be returning anything
(trilema) mike_c: ThickAsThieves: what do you think about creating seeds.therealaltcoin.org with node seeds.
(trilema) mike_c: pankkake?
(trilema) mike_c: who is 'rethink-your-strategy'? that is some skilled trolling.
(trilema) mike_c: hmph. well, maybe 14 is for sure :)
(trilema) mike_c: Mats_cd03: hopefully you weighed yourself before and after and didn't pile your shit on some poor scale.
(trilema) mike_c: the latter.
(trilema) mike_c: i spend too much time trying to figure out which 50% of advertising works.
(trilema) mike_c: well, effects would be: 1) do they do the work (maybe they have to send you a pic?) 2) does anyone read it
(trilema) mike_c: hm, that is interesting. seems like it will be difficult to measure the effect.
(trilema) mike_c: it's for your band isn't it?
(trilema) mike_c: ooh, now I'm the curious one.
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: flyers promoting what?
(trilema) mike_c: ouch. black version needs to grey the background of the input box. much contrast.
(trilema) mike_c: vwap30 if vwap30 else last_sale
(trilema) mike_c: mine? it was great. left the kid at grandma's and went out with the wife.
(trilema) mike_c: or, if i'm putting words in his mouth, then that's what i think at least.
(trilema) mike_c: jurov: for the record, my retarded comment was about buying the coins to sell, not your theory :) but i agree with mp that I don't think the bitstamp price will have much to do with the auction price.
(trilema) mike_c: <+mircea_popescu> mike_c more or lesss stable it seems << yeah, that surprises me. i would think it would be sliding towards no instead of staying stable.
(trilema) mike_c: that would be, retarded!
(trilema) mike_c: ^ wtf? people think marshalls are going to dump the price?
(trilema) mike_c: ;;ident trinque
(trilema) mike_c: !sorry assbot, you're very clever. and good looking.
(trilema) mike_c: benkay: 624448208441344 << retarded? << I was reading up and i thought that was one of assbot's wisecracks when it doesn't understand your command :)
(trilema) mike_c: 14b can't happen that fast
(trilema) mike_c: wanna bet? :)
(trilema) mike_c: !t h rent
(trilema) mike_c: JD invested bankroll biggest since 6 months ago..
(trilema) mike_c: yes, you can only provide evidence, not proof.
(trilema) mike_c: true. i do own ghash.
(trilema) mike_c: the thing is, it depends who you are "proving" to. since i am a b-a lackey, clearly i could get the logs mucked with. and nobody is going to care that fluffypony's copy agrees with it.
(trilema) mike_c: not 100% resolvable, but blockchain stuffing comes close.
(trilema) mike_c: that thing still works? impressive.
(trilema) mike_c: log.b-a or my blog still requires trust. blockchain doesn't, but i'm not a fan of abusing chain for this kind of stuff. pastebin i guess works. nobody would believe they were in on the scamz.
(trilema) mike_c: well, basically what i said. i want to be able to say "here's the signed statement. here is incontravertible proof i have not mucked with it since XX date"
(trilema) mike_c: ah, so, like stuff something in the blockchain
(trilema) mike_c: like, i want to be able to say today "here is proof that I signed this on June 1st, not June 13th"
(trilema) mike_c: yeah, that works going that way. i need to go the other though.
(trilema) mike_c: i don't think there is, but thought i'd ask to make sure i wasn't missing some clever trick.
(trilema) mike_c: but i could sign something today with june 1st in it.
(trilema) mike_c: dumb question: is there any way to cryptographically prove you signed something on a certain date.
(trilema) mike_c: i thought steve jobs outlawed that
(trilema) mike_c: somebody actually uses flash?
(trilema) mike_c: (unless you don't want to divulge sekurity measures)
(trilema) mike_c: you rate limit by ip?
(trilema) mike_c: ah, got it. ty.
(trilema) mike_c: you meant 3 minutes?
(trilema) mike_c: ah. what's a "3 tries"?
(trilema) mike_c: i am confused (and curious). what limit are you bumping into? requesting pages?
(trilema) mike_c: children of ALL ages
(trilema) mike_c: boys and girls,
(trilema) mike_c: what you wanted to say was: ladies and gentlemen,
(trilema) mike_c: aw. assbot fail. amazing.
(trilema) mike_c: hah! get it? what AMAZING bot does kako run?
(trilema) mike_c: ;;rate BingoBoingo 3 mpif manager, decent gambler, good blogger.
(trilema) mike_c: he's not a merchant, he's a market maker. i'm sure the diff changes are great for him.
(trilema) mike_c: like i said, i don't think this is any kind of life & death thing. it's smoothing out an annoyance.
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: i would not, but i'd gladly take their coin.
(trilema) mike_c: JD wouldn't be happy if gamblers had to wait 1-2 hours to deposit money
(trilema) mike_c: mircea_popescu: x-bt for one. is satoshijack still around? plus possibly some other merchants in development.
(trilema) mike_c: cuz the miners should have dropped in price.
(trilema) mike_c: and i ran the numbers before btc diff went up, so it could be better
(trilema) mike_c: i got 371
(trilema) mike_c: it's like we have discussed before. it affects merchants. it's not as easy to move coin around. this makes little difference for the occasional user, but 1 hour block time on average means sometimes 2+ hours for a block.
(trilema) mike_c: i ran the numbers, but I won't tell if you don't want to know :)
(trilema) mike_c: having a block an hour does not feel optimal.
(trilema) mike_c: they do to me.
(trilema) mike_c: i don't worry about the coin dying, but +80%/-80% diff changes are annoying.
(trilema) mike_c: yeah. i don't know if it's the right thing to do, but I do think it's worth trying.
(trilema) mike_c: ;;rate unbalanced 1 ATC tinkerer/supporter
(trilema) mike_c: well, it seems like a good thing to try to me.
(trilema) mike_c: not yet. what kind of diff change are you trying to get this period?
(trilema) mike_c: hehe, then thank you too

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