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(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitcoin-assets is my refuge from the shitty horrible suicide-inducing world of web programming
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm noping right the fuck out of this conversation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no stop stop stop
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess i'm into really elaborate masochism
(trilema) ben_vulpes: m$ all about preventing developers from thinking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apple's shit's all about "end user experience"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: microsoft, apple
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's an abstraction for the sake of discussion, xmj.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: who knows what "they" call anything.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: operate in the boonies, can't afford and don't want to hire programmers, and so bring me on to do...forms. for enquification of work. in exchange for which i get dollars, and the opportunity to suggest other ways in which to make their businesses run less awkwardly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so i've started bringing in the kind of work i started out seeking. internal applications for companies converting passenger 747s into cargo 747s.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is dishonest work?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i imagine that i feel about running cables and laying literal pipe the way you feel about returning responses to http requests.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's all just plumbing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you also labor under an actual education in what comprises a computer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: options: derp on shitty, non-lethal web stack solving problems for people with "real" businesses in exchange for some nominal amount of cash and the "freedom" to write my own schedule, or drive hours to get to the place with the interesting multiphysics problems and...flourescent-lit workspacen.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> 'never hire man with fewer than seven or greater than nine fingers' shop ? << they were proud to offer the opportunity to sacrifice my parts on the shrine of their stock price
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "oh hey if you want to work on the hot parts, you could also go live in the desert - miles from anything interesting! - how about it? we pay 65K pre-tax."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "hey kid, want to maintain this family of bolts' load certifications through stack reengineering after stack reengineering? live in LA, sacrifice meaningful human contact, operate in remote proximity to large piles of cash and famous people working on other, cooler things?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes shudders at the memory
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then the rocket folks gave me a tour of the life i could expect derping on the sexiest atom stacks around
(trilema) ben_vulpes: * asciilifeform derps atoms in unheated wooden hovel with 0-phase (extension cord from house...) << i came too close to sacrificing too many valuable human-parts derping on atoms on salary to go back to it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can't weld or work metal properly without the grinder.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh and a grinder.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but also entirely replaceable anywhere with a 1960s industrial toolchain.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's fair packable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm reduced to that with which i cannot bear to part.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for lo, the paupery. we must maintain our own equipment.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: vice grips (3, various sizes), wrenches, socket set, bike manipulation tools
(trilema) ben_vulpes: various squares, tape measures, handheld sanders, an 18v battery drill and two batteries for same.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the actual tools i now own are hacksaws, japanese wood saws, various jigs, shitty quick-grip clamps, a stick welder (in the business-partner's garage), a cutoff saw (ibid), and a circular saw (...).
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (chairs, wafer chucks, unattended production cells...)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: once upon a time i built furnaces, tables, cabinetry, play-vehicles for the e-peen at burning man...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in re-packing the toolbox today i had a moment of gloom over all the tools i've abandoned over the years.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: natural gas as well, for the localized heating of crank-turners.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but it has 3-phase and concrete floors should any want to derp thusly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't derp on atoms any more.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: slumlord must be browbeaten into providing and maintaining supplies though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: access to piss tank(s) comes with rent
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh lord if the slumlord were even so competent
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's a nice symmetry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: toilet paper, paper towels
(trilema) ben_vulpes: paper towels
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's just a bay in a warehouse.
(trilema) ben_vulpes pays 575 covering deskspace for 6, plus tp, plus pt, plus soap in restrooms, plus ping-pong table
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm apparently even more of a pauper than yourself, and must maintain mobile work stations.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do we really need to rehash the best mobile compute hardware discussion?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm always confused by your "copyright and IP lolol" attitude contrasted with the "these contracts are copyright MPEx 20**" lines in the MPEx contracts
(trilema) ben_vulpes`: mircea_popescu: regarding the north american indians - is their land theirs? is it not granted to them by the arms which surround, and worthless even at that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski but only those who committed the crime can be held liable for it - there's no sense in holding "a people" or "a community" liable for actions of their ancestors, is there?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: yessir?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (also horrible is how os x handles new windows for application a when application a is full screen on a monitor somewhere: nondeterministically!)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: are you using the matsuhiro port?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and forgo meta-tab
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for extra hell, bind meta to cmd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to understand my helllllllllll
(trilema) ben_vulpes: try working with a text editot full-screened, nubbins`.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: makes me unhappy in my cage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not good for my tiny little brain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i read too much about lisp machines this weekend
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just enough to uncover their wholesale inadequacy and go back to the miserable rodential dragging and resizing of windows around monitors
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "a little..."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "have you tried them?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "and do you use them?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "but there are tools for manipulating your workspace!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i started playing with tiling window managers recently, to the horror of the golden cage people surrounding me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm coming to the conclusion that i'm an alien
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sounds like well-cast braindamage.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is "human" 1000 across all of gnu?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "human" sizes, for instance: multiples of 1000, instead of 1024.)" << this is what human means on unix?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "(watch GNU ls acquire
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you have background for naggum's "Free Software is a protest movement. Open Source is just a weapon." comment in that "business plan" thread?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, there's "art" and cute undercontracted ladies parading around tonight. adieu!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "lawyer up"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at will my arse.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: turns out, i'm liable for unemployment benefits if i fire someone for doing a poor job.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apropos only of retarded usian laws, i'm looking into employee-ing up.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was under the impression that it was the latter.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is it forbidden or just not practiced?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and didn't we already do the aerosol/vaporizing thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: only the ones who've not bought their own vaporiser company.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can't get a signal anywhere but b-a
(trilema) ben_vulpes: overheating doesn't cascade in the T batts, but who knows if the thing stays online.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: musk made some interesting claims about battery safety behavior in the presence of overheating during the Boeing fire saga.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mind you i had no hand in the actual design or most of the fab outside of the cutting of pieces to dimension (and the insisting upon of dimensioned pieces for cutting)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: would never pass muster in any of the design or fabrication classes that i've taken, but i'll be surprised if it doesn't move from shack to shack for at least half a decade.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i, spice racks, and with hand tools as this hovel has no machine shop.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not really articulating clearly, as i've been fabricating all day as well.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, a face, and then rotate 180 setting the piece down on the spacers again before clamping to get the machine to define your planes of perpendicularity.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in that situation you mill one face flat on top of your spacers or whatever they're called (i've forgotten), mill the opposite face parallel, clamp in a vise and then mill the remaining important face perpendicular to either of the two previous
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i really have no idea.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the face to which the thing bolts, and the face which bolts to the other thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm guessing that only two sides really need to be orthogonal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: measuring orthogonality in mm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not really an engineering criteria, that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to within what tolerance, though?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thing about machining and code is that a pro is always going to tell you a number of ways to make it look better without materially improving the thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: might want to break those edges
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kinda funny that your fingerprint's in focus but the millmarks not though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you refrain from mocking me, humans can learn, etc etc etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: same as before .0075
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fourth fixed offering?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: new p.o., thestringpuller
(trilema) ben_vulpes: alternatively, i know i know naught
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know not what i know not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my ignorance knows no bounds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whoa abcl runs on the jvm
(trilema) ben_vulpes is a monkey with tools beyond his sophisticaiton
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also infected with "niceness" - don't talk shit on js! it's not nice!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: witness the insane popularity of v8 - js on the server!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: programmers are the herdiest of creatures
(trilema) ben_vulpes: get outa hea!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nb, have not read yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: guessing it rounds to minutes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: some usians claim that some kinds of ethanol burn more "cleanly" than others.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great big fuck off tankers carrying the same shit passing in the night...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is then shipped to S.A. for their "high grade" ethanol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, crappy ethanol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: cookies?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bwahahahat is going on there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rithm: steady state is an altcoin for everyone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <decimation> 'owning' your home is partially renting from the government, partially speculation on mortgage bonds, and partially a 'ticket' to future 'wealth' << fucking bril
(trilema) ben_vulpes: see now i'm in this horrible place where i *think* i know when you've made a mispelling, but then i double guess, then...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apropos of naught
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ownership is the hallmark of the elite?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: some guys can
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and even that...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: i'm not convinced that i can own anything but btc any more.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to me at least.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, but if the point is to eventually own it free and clear and not pay rent, property taxes still count as rent.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then there's the need to continue paying rent forever.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but a hit and run! what assholes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nobodycares.com
(trilema) ben_vulpes: breaking news: my little brother just got knocked off his bike
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i just let the girl paint the walls whatever and book the deposit as a cost of renting.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tell me - how do you book those expenses, and how do you tally the ROI?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: keeping the yard looking adequately neat to keep the homeowners association gruntled?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and when you sell your house, do you account for all of the property taxes you've paid over its lifetime? the repairs made? the endless time spent fixing it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "well of course you want to build equity!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the house discussion with these people is a great example.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wouldn't believe what?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in which scenarios is this not true.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one must extract it oneself, but...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gernika decimation: there's some value in witnessing the chumpatron from the inside.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol wd kakobrekla
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which, i guess, is why they come to me. "please write some not shitty software. i'll pay you 1.25x market just so i can keep the paper and the software and not have to manage the zeks."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't really buy that part decimation. the people who do rounds easily understand the problems of shitty software, and are loath to hire zeks at sub market wages.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "i'll take the cash, you can keep the paper."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, precisely.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is running a consulting shop and sucking dollars out of shartups a short on the bezzle market?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just plotting points.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apologies for spam.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;market sell --market btce --currency USD 500
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;market sell --market btce --currency USD 100
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;market sell --market btce --currency USD 1000
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;market sell --market bitstamp --currency USD 1000
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can one model the effect cross-exchange?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;market sell 10000
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;market sell 2000
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks, TheNewDeal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, you don't even get in airplanes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: xmj: yessss?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotta release the press eventually.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now i've given up on jobs being enjoyable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably the only enjoyable part of that job.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i always enjoyed imagining the creative ways people might try to circumvent my anti-idiot devices.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: line operators must be protected from themselves, too, lest the company be held liable for their idiocy. "actuation button A 2.5 ft to the right of press, B 2.5 to the left, press does not fire unless both actuation buttons are pressed together"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ThickAsThieves> i'm like, you now i'll have to pay taxes on those too right? << dude stop letting the wimmins make important decisions like dietary and financial structuring
(trilema) ben_vulpes: * xmj would love to work for Bitcoin, btw << wtf last time i offered to cut you checks in btc you were all "nah lets fuck around with retarded int'l payment processors"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: you're not charging enough to make yourself happy to do it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i love how the the yellow is totally gratuitous
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: co-tenants in this space gave me this shirt today http://i.imgur.com/gcI32D9.jpg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's the pesky client documents
(trilema) ben_vulpes: of COURSE i keep all of my company's documents in source control
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there isn't enough time in the world to teach the lawyers scm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: xmj: have you ever actually hammered out contracts with client legal teams?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dafuq are you getting paid for?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: missing highlighting of like 4 other changed areas
(trilema) ben_vulpes: diff comes back with one section highlit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "please send me a diff of this amended SOW against the previous one"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: damn lawyers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i want a portable compute object that plugs into the work station, home station, robot-grocery-carrying-thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes remembers when macos skinning was a thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just look at how dissimilar those under measure are from me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when's this ether dump?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "go to san jose" << har dee har har
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they know we're saying the same thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: that's the point of using "poorly engineered"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah but only when the contractors arent around
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to pique irk and troll
(trilema) ben_vulpes: frequently with a...pregnant pause.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so to pique them we now say "poorly engineered"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the office brides have asserted that "retarded" is not okay
(trilema) ben_vulpes: subject of women
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is this reference mircea_popescu ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ThickAsThieves> we're waiting to take off and they are milking me? << lol you should hear lady v on the topic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "shit he's in" << what shit is this? bed with the USG?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and a worse programmer than i
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