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(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Fun in the USA
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ^ from the above book
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: the machines in the shop roar so wildly / that i often forget in the roar that I am ; / i am lost in the terrible tumult, / my ego disappears, i am a machine. / i work, and work and word without end; / i am busy, and busy and busy all the time. / for what? and for whom? I know not, I ask not! / how should a machine ever come to think?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel I'll note that I hate the perspective of the author in that book but liked the information he had to present.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: it has some stuff about polgar's daughters
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: cazalla: see also John von Neumann and Norbert Wiener: From Mathematics to the Technologies of Life and Death
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Interesting book.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: originally recommended by Stanislav
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: See also China's Examination Hell: The Civil Service Examinations of Imperial China
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: By relieving the brain of all unnecessary work, a good notation sets it free to concentrate on more advanced problems, and in effect increases the mental power of the race. -- A.N. Whitehead
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: nubbins`: the language doesn't help. For example, a chinese mathematics undergrad from Peking U. I know thought that using a computer algebra system to do mathematics was "cheating". Person in question had no notion of "playing with mathematics". This is more of a cultural thing, but much of human thought is captured in language.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: the chinese I know who learn "english for programming" have all sorts of massive misconceptions about computers, language, mathematics etc.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: my point is that chinese as is must go away if they want to work with computers
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: nubbins`: the english (or korean!) language maps to computers becuase the characters compose. you'll only have to learn how to talk to a computer instead of a whole new system of language + computers.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: you're fucked.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: nubbins`: doesn't matter. Let's say that you are a super good people person but can't verify any of what your computer is doing in the future.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: nubbins`: their language doesn't map to computers all that well
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: hey, good for you!
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: cazalla: do you mind if I ask what books you're reading your son btw?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: fucking shoot me
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "nothing changes"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: cazalla: I'm still not sure why you want quiet hobbit land fyi
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: nubbins`: lolyeah
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: e plug on that thing three months later, at the end of which they.had.not done.anything. I'm not sure you exactly grok me, it's not that they hadn't round up the town's minorities and set them on fire. It's that they couldn't get together to make some stencils which someone (hopefully, someone else) was perhaps sometime (2015 ?) going to use for some purpose. Somewhere. Whatever."
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "The one thing which Timisoara does consistently and well is failure. In 2007 I attempted to organise an art exhibit, on the terms that I was going to pay, in cash, for everything involved. They didn't manage to do it. Last year, I attempted to support a nascent local party, by paying for a quarter's rent and other expenses (a quarter ton of alcohol, mostly) for a bunch of self-styled neonazi local kids. I pulled th
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: heh, for future readers
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: cazalla: not really
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: which had a problem with bisexuality
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: all these "right wing" "conservitive" organizations or whatever are pathetic. I was looking into e.g., the golden dawn earlier tonight...
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: let reality branch cut and backtrack.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: the political position of "they're cattle, we're not" is totally A OK.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: nubbins`: what, you're a "attractive-ist" for only fucking hot gurlz?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: nubbins`: Nonsense.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Eh, nothing wrong with imperialism
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: In other news, some interesting sounds
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: and the "right" (or whatever) was weak enough to allow them to
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ;; google messiah's donkey
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: others: "mooooo"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: What I find so lulzy about the whole situation is that if you take the supposed Zionist lit and the /pol/ people 100% seriously it basically reduces to "jews think that others are cattle"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: See I told you.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "until 23andme suggested i was a traitor to the cause"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: FUCK THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I'm surprised that methheads have bugs crawl out of their arms rather than jews.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Seriously, the jew thing...
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "devops engineer"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: God, what hateable profile photos and job descriptions.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "I have a new favorite douchebag profile pic: Enthralling My Fucking Audience. This one is phenomenal; you’ve probably seen it somewhere amongst your fucking friends. It’s where a Very Important Dbag (VIDb) is captivating above-mentioned audience solely through the power of his personal presence. Jesus Christ, the fucking hubris. The fucking insane, idiotic hubris. Examples culled from an eleven-second scrub of
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: regarding this chainalysis.com thing (from the bitcoin talk link above)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Note that I dont necessarily endorse MP's viewpoint but it is rather well developed.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ;; google site: trilema.com "you're taking the kids"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ;; google site: www.trilema.com "pack your bags women we're going to"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: cazalla: "you guys criticise the mancave but seriously, when the missus" << !s beat her
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: *are contained within it.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: also, pretty trivial to flatten some sexprs and check that only kosher symbols in it.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: regarding "code as data" common lisp has the var *read-eval* you can bind to nil if you're processing code as data.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: If people were to take issue with this perhaps I'm missing information (and thus need to learn xyz). I'm going to do as I please either way, but prefer to be accurate.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Does anyone take issue with me describing the lordship as "the peerage" and #-assets as "earth's premiere commercial forum"?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: And I'm off for nicotine and a walk. Toodles.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Adlai: some clim stuff
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: !s screenshots
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ah, it supports clim! << yep
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Perhaps I'll have the chance to clean up the CL interface at some point.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I currently edit english text in Climacs sometimes
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I fucking hate elisp, and happily cut much of it out of Masamune.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: and there is money to be made by exploiting the comprehensibility advantage
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Adlai: In any case, Emacs works just fine and is sufficently lispy without dropping the Von N. arch.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Adlai: that is correct, my mistake.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Adlai: Ascii wants to fix everything all at once. I understand his position but don't see how to accomplish it.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: right now I'm writing up a thing so that anyone can finish it off, in case I run into alphabet soup or w/e
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Adlai: currently pestering bezzle lords to pay my bills so I can finish it off
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: trinque: it seems to me that arguing with e.g., ascii as to if you can make linux less terrible is by and large useless sans the loot (useful technical tidbits) he drops occasionally. If you'd like to work on such a thing I can set you on the only sane path that I'm aware of, with justification as to why you'd do this instead of else.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: trinque: regarding "linux sucks but could be better" see the thread here http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2015#1036490
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: !gettrust trinque
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ms from comprehensibility".
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: "what is the lisp concept and how is hickey crapping on it?" << the lisp concept is: "a crystalline pyramid of comprehensible mutually-interlocking concepts", see Thumbs Down for Clojure http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42 The parens (i.e., syntactical correspondence with ast) so far as I can tell are inescapable, but incidental. They are simply the most obvious product of the philosophy "sophistication blosso
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: (that are not preliminary drafts of PURSUING THE LIMITS OF FAILED SYMMETRY)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: (that can be found in the first 10 pages of google results)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ^ All Al articles absent from the homepage.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: Why did you choose to name the #b-a lordship as such? Is there a historical system of governance you are drawing inspiration from in particular?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I guess I just have different tastes
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: SUBJECTIVE TASTE ISN'T
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: r.e., tits - eww.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: adlai: nah, lying on my back
(trilema) gabriel_laddel is lying on a couch, writing on a laptop computer
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Germane to the discussion of "humanity sucks", http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/crap.htm
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: adlai: No, but looking at the website.... why do you mention it?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Which is unsurprising.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: adlai: apparently the text editor rocks
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: adlai: I was linking you to it b/c you asked why one might want a lispm
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: kk.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: with respect to the claim that console gaming is 'dead' - yes.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: interestingly, the common lisp standard doesn't contain regular expressions. Why? Because they're unnecessary when you don't ever have to parse input.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "illusion of volume" << ?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: Nope.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: as for the original PSP, 76.3 million sales (as of March 31, 2012)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: !up jordandotdev
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: you kid, correct?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: ewww
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: btw, many SK girls get plastic surgery to look more western. If you ever spend enough time with them you'll start to see the differences between koreans and 'koreans'
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: lolk. I'm sorta half joking (and sorta half not).
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: cazalla: wtf is this 'asking' you speak of
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: ah, do elaborate
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: and I know her irl, she is drunk in the 2nd photo
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: lol it's the same girl
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: they elites eat well
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: nah, the Chinese have a class system thing going on.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ^ she is Chinese.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: anyways, all chinese girls are ugly?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: those girls were south korean iirc
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Alright, I'm off to lunch.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I mean, Germans are "generally stupid" too, but when compared to e.g. disabled people.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: trinque: lol so instead we'll hire disabled people
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: outside of the communism thing, I'm unaware of them being generally stupid, failing to create and maintain civilization etc.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: !up ascii_field
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: can you picture a worse thing for applying to nsa ? << Is there something 'wrong' with Russians?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: Are you not Russian male?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: There is a bunch more of this nonsense available on their website. "African Americans in Cryptologic history" in spite of there not being a single(!) black mathematician.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "Our vision is to create a workplace environment that reflects diversity and inclusion in its broadest context and that ensures every employee has the opportunity to reach his or her full potential and is treated with respect and fairness." -- GEN Keith Alexander - Director NSA/Chief CSS
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I flipped through an ACM mag that was lying around the house and see an employment advertisement for the NSA on the back - "The NSA is an equal opportunity employer", and it names some specializations they're interested in, including "quantum computing" and "discrete mathematics". I visit the websitef, because lolwtf and find this:
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Ah yes, a refined Hungarian banker speaking English
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I was doing some work, came across a video of derps derping at Von N. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLbllFHBQM4
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: the point I originally made is that they're not funding people to convert .pdfs etc. becuase thats not the kind of people they are. I shouldn't have sent 19:04, it adds nothing to the conversation.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: 19:01 << you don't have to /say/ that. "We think this is a serious overreach of federal power, and ..."
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Even if Aaron was only a useful idiot.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: simply on the principle of "fuck the system, it sucks"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Anyways, this is what I have in mind when I say "new format" - and no, I don't think the 'adults' would be happy about a program that converts arbitary PDFs into this sort of program, as evidenced by no bezzle barons funding Aaron Swartz's legal defense.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: all the data used to perform the computations should have a "warning - unlinked <location of data, who is responsible for it>" unless a human resolved it to the correct source and bundled it along with the paper
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I should have better defined what I mean by "useful format": all the citations must be clickable, and when you click on them, they open up the linked paper, or tell you where it is located (i.e., behind a paywall). I don't want plaintext output, but rather a better format with the exact same formatting as the original pdf that allows me to click, drag-and-drop and add new content. The authors etc should all be progr
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ammatically accessible "new content" should be anything I wish - 3D etc.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: scanner sometime.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: 14:16:34 BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: the 'adults' are not going to be happy about you writing a program that converts all books in libgen.info + all papers you can get of school networks into a useful format via a combination of OCR and heuristic hackery << Plain OCR is normally sufficient for books without advanced mathematics as long as you are willing to liberate the pages from the spine. Test it with a sheetfed
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: why, all of the sudden are they a immediate threat to a hypothetical?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't much of the discussion in this channel based on the assumption that usg is going to fall apart?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: !s gravity well
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: !s my face is a pancake
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: they look like trustworthy fellows
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: none took the time to test it out
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ^ ascii, I've mentioned this idea to 3 people - all reject it on grounds of "it can't be that easy, my school had all sorts people working on these problems and they never thought of it"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: being a poorfag
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: He presented someone else's program as his own. They didn't check, being fuckwits, but eventually found out.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: ^ I know of one in particular...
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Oh, I've teh insider information
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: know what in particular?
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: which would actually be useful
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: the 'adults' are not going to be happy about you writing a program that converts all books in libgen.info + all papers you can get of school networks into a useful format via a combination of OCR and heuristic hackery
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: but I don't know anything
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: it seems to me the model is to find smart, angry people, fund them and then when things go to shit, stand behind them and keep them out of trouble.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: and check up on you
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: they dole it out a month at a time
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: they don't want them to e.g., make a napster
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: they want them to play nicely with the world
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: which is fucking stupid
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: well, in truth the Thiel fellowship doesn't even give it all away at once
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: 2 years to play with Mathematics sounds wonderfully useful to me.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: the neat people in the Thiel fellowship are the mathematics kids, who are sort of the odd ones out
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: most of the companies are just pathetic in practice
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: (From MPs gypsy girl story)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: I, with the devil's own smile, invite them to take pictures
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "If we show up at the border with That We're going straight to prison!"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: (these being from the previous generations)
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: but yes, there are a lot of indians, which I didn't previously notice
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: nah, some Chinese, Vietnamese too
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: Also, lots of asian males.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "let me tell you a story about a mouse I caught in a field..."
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: because its prettier
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "why prefer incremental compilation over batch?"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: monkey @ lisp term ?! << outside of that, have you ever seen any program written as "fluidly"? Which comes back to the original discussion of "what is intelligence"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: "what is intelligence?"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: !s langton's ant
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: http://youtu.be/xzTH_ZqaFKI?t=9m57s << neat, working software, with the foundations built by high IQ individuals
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: if iq tests worked we'd have usable software. << see symbolics inc
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: people try codifying common sense to make it more palatable - doesn't work
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: the US is fucking insane
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: !s cognitive dissonance
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I gotcha
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: so wait, would visiting e.g., Schwartz qualify for "stepping into the sewer"
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: this is, as far as I can tell, roughly the equivalent of reading your blog.
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: That's not respectable at all!
(trilema) gabriel_laddel: debating on the /same side/?!?!?!
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