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(trilema) ben_vulpes: - relay transactions to the network
(trilema) ben_vulpes: - return a block corresponding to a given hash
(trilema) ben_vulpes: - return the height of the current best-known chain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: - translate block height to block hash
(trilema) ben_vulpes: translate block height to block hash
(trilema) ben_vulpes: - download and validate blocks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: here's a proposed list
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on a previous topic, eg bitcoinating
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mthreat this is almost worse than useless
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s bitcoinate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: re dogillionaires, that was fluffypony
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i refer of course to the quoted price of attendance.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for the record, attendance declarations are only binding on those who wish to attend, not his unimpeachable lordship mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: worst story.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: too bad i'm too bad of a scammer to pull it off
(trilema) ben_vulpes: amusingly, i was confirmed without paying.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: assuming they're any good of course
(trilema) ben_vulpes: arbitrated by...humans.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buttonwood_: ^^ that bet right there is a good example of best-in-class contracts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, buttonwood_ are you still interested in working this thread?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, there was one. are you aware of why it shut down?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up buttonwood_
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that'd be the one, yeah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there was an options exchange for a while, buttonwood_.
(trilema) ben_vulpes is an incompetent hacker
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;echo /msg ben_vulpes hello
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;echo /msg assbot amazing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're clearly in a good position to be talking about how business should be done around here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust buttonwood_
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !gettrust assbot buttonwood_
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trust is built over time, and can't be abstracted out.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buttonwood_: you can't trust people that you don't trust. end of story.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mats> use the ratings and talk to the raters << this. again and again, this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and all of this because i asked about what should bear responsibility for creating and signing transactions.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: much like if you want a > 1m transaction that's your problem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if i want to spend my low-priority outputs, that's my problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps i don't understand what all gets signed. more than likely.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how is my signature even valid in that scenario?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but you're saying that if i cook up a transaction that has 1march29th as an input, the miners should actually rewrite that to use 1march15th as an input?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what miners do is...unknowable?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm talking about the reference implementation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up buttonwood_
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so they actually troll through the whole blockchain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how are miners doing it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do bitcoind-node and bitcoind-wallet share a db?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah ah but check that a transaction is in a block
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all that must be done is check that a tx input comes from a previous block.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the bitcoind *node* doesn't give a whit about transaction creation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're proposing a new "wallet" that knows how to create transactions.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess a step backwards is in order first
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if i'm reading correctly, you propose moving transaction creation *out* of bitcoind.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which is the transaction creation process.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if i can interrupt, i'm coming at this problem from an entirely different angle.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: a transaction in a block contains the public key iirc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess this implies maintaining an index of txn hashes -> block hashes for lookup and validity checking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from *its* blockchain (database).
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so then the thing *does* need to retrieve arbitrary transactions.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to verify a new transaction, one needs the previous transaction in hand, in entirety.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: like i'm 5, please.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do you want me to say "not at all"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> txn are verifiable aren't they. << not really. transaction only includes txid of previous transaction which itself has the pubkey required for validation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitcoind-wallet should generate and sign transactions.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitcoind should not maintain a wallet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: another claim, for your consideration
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <kakobrekla> ... something wrong << what is best practice? feedback from industry leaders would be useful here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b) bitcoind *should* be able to return transactions with unspent outputs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a) bitcoind should not return arbitrary transactions by id
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so i made two claims, let's treat them seperately
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how long does a "rescan" take these days?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with the utxo list in hand, a node could create a raw transaction for signing by an offline node.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think that maintaining the utxo list is a good idea.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: correct me if i'm wrong, but address balance is the sum of unspent transactions to that public key.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a much more tractable problem to find transactions relevant to a given address out of that list than it is to walk the blockchain for same.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if the node were to maintain the list of unspent transaction outputs, it would also have a list of the TXID's with unspent outputs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ./bitcoind getrawtransaction TXID
(trilema) ben_vulpes: are you agreeing or what?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not the best english, but what american knows how to write well anyways?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kakobrekla gets it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when i made furniture, we went out of our way to put cunts into the woodworking.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "a single machine acting as a full node" << conformal has yet to answer any questions re: what the specs of this "machine" were.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anything in particular about that, mats?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: another netsplit?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my reasoning being that iterating through the blocks is adequate to get complex information out of the thing, and that producing unspent outputs is adequate for "bitcoinating" - eg, producing and signing transactions.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: any *unspent output*, yes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: any *block*, yes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't know that the thing needs to cough up *any* transaction on demand.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unqualified 'till i die
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a pauper is i
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh as if its even a question at this point
(trilema) ben_vulpes: salud, pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man seconds really crawl by when one's fucking with cron scripts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: yeah let me tell you about the manual checks in the billing process to catch rounding errors
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we were like 14? 15? derping around on livejournal.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <jurov> [] hanbot rather a pickup line, maybe. "wanna write my eulogy?" << i have actually used this one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah. nuffin.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "uh, /etc/hosts?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *seasoned* apple users totally boggled - "what did you use for that?!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thirty second task.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was entreated by a girl to "block some sites" on her computer. jezebel, gawker, others.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] this is the thing that always blew my mind about serious apple aficionados - they will pay, 20-100 usd, for a proggy that ought to be a 3-line perl script << funny, this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] "the people" are simply stupider than they were even twenty years ago. << stupider? or more?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "american small"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "oh hang on let me take out my tablet to take this call"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *embarrasingly* large
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the new iphones are lolariously large
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it was an entirely serviceable music library manager, until someone decided that it needed more features.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: itunes has been rotting since 10.4, at least
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the mourning cry is "steve is dead"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and so...can't actually do math anymore.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the "calculator" in 10.10 uses javascript
(trilema) ben_vulpes: references get dropped constantly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can't handle trivial column shooping.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they have this hilarious "spreadsheet" program "Numbers" that not just disregards 20 years of spreadsheet UI finessing, but also disregards their own text input conventions.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] ben_vulpes, possibly other folks who work on apple machines: http://www.mondaynote.com/2015/01/18/apple-software-quality-questions << tell me about it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: prevailing opinion being that there's no point in making a high quality computing product...yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't think though that we've extended this to computational substrate yet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (the notion that a high grade product like coffee, or chocolate can be made in bulk, in such a way to appeal to the masses...well, this is old hat around here, right?)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] danielpbarron: << handcrafted coffee now? << this actually is a thing. I've had it in CR. It looks say like : http://trilema.com/2011/chestii-pe-care-mi-le-doresc-dar-nu-le-voi-putea-gasi-niciodata/ << actually how all decent coffee is made
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sounds melty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was hoping for someone outside of the echo chamber.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mats> [] ive been here a while and i still can't get over the high class white pussy strolling the streets << take any home yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hola pumperos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man i gotta get better at telling stories.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes wait, this was a little girl ? << yeah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (mind you, the girl in question was herself running around nekkid)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a real, as mircea_popescu sez, lolwut moment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "THEY'RE KISSING!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was at the nude beach this summer. scads of folks of all ages and sizes parading around, lady v and i stretched out with wine and sammiches on a blanket somewhat away from the hubub. hundred feet or so down the beach i hear this little kid:
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actually hilariously
(trilema) ben_vulpes: NO FUCKING AT THE NUDE BEACH
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the tail-buttplugs scheduled for saturday...meh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's a schedule and everything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and messy post-hummer faces on monday
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm looking forward to anal stretching tomorrow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but now mircea_popescu does it by hand and with more variety
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a sad were we all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: watch blocks coming in for transactions of relevance to your address, and then request them from btcd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: undata: all you need to do is cook up raw transactions and sign them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: maybe i should caveat with american "wood" floors
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although wood floors and heels man
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's a demerit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ain't nobody cooking on their knees, either.
(trilema) ben_vulpes elbows undata
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tell her to stick it deedbot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it works better with close genetic matches
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this would be a good story.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: repeatedly too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: TOTALLY GOING TO CLONE MYSELF, GUYS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so i can pump his blood through me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aw man now i gotta get my braindamaged clone to happen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: “If two rats are not adjusted to each other, one will chew the head of the other until it is destroyed,” << yesssss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's pretty bad
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nOgAnOo: you're cloaking tardily.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one must get to the place one wants to be, though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: allergic to the outdoors or something?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man you are *lazy*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Kushed: you're flapping.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quick poll: stehpinklers or sitzpinklers?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> okay. it's a similar thing for women. a girl "thinks she migh have been raped". a woman is slightly bemused at your apparent expectation that taking her clothes off puts HER at a disadvantage. << huh.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myeah i can smell that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> punkman: fake boyfriends that is << the trouble with an actual boyfriend is that he just might make you a woman << just what distinguishes women from girls?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: excuses excuses
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gearshift can be a fun toy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you and your car fetish
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.nijotz.1:2d059de0adbebaa481f0efb6ce77cf7ff0034a39cd7cc5f8051ee8d4f8654833
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/mercedes-benz/sl-190/1958/276479 << i still don't see why you need that boat when you could have something pretty looking and leggy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also not really a breakthrough until the text's been parsed, but whaddaya want from "science" these days.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150122114405.htm << probably just pornography, a la the logs for this place
(trilema) ben_vulpes: keys are cheap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: make a new one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !rate nijotz 1 dis guy i know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh no voice yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> no wallet at all. << precisely this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you'll tar your good name in here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: exploitation, objectification, the whole lot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nijotz: you know this place is full of women hate and racism right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whoa nijotz dropped by?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buenos dias mis pirómanos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now there's an interesting notion
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely up to date on the thread, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how'd i get almost 800 lines behind in one day!?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fucking sms.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no i get the history and the technology, asshats.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <davout> [] https://twitter.com/OtaK_/status/558321238230462464 <<< this replace-pronouns twitter butthurt flow seems to be attracting a whole new level of stupid << i don't get the 140 character
(trilema) ben_vulpes: got tablets?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's like one of those "so bad its good" things but it's more like "so pissed at computers i've now got ptsd and 'shall we over the trenches for fun tonight fellas?'"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but all caps glee
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's not rage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "HTML? SUUURE! IMMA BILL YOU LIKE AN HOUR FOR THAT! ON CALL? SURE! THAT'S LIKE 3 HOURS EASY PEASY!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm cut all the way over to gleeful wanton murder today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <jurov> don't copy that stuff here then. can cause murderous rage for mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes and others << my murderous rage reservoir is depleted
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "IN YOUR ENDO, HOOOOORES"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "popescu is coming! popescu is coming!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can just imagine them frolicking squealing naked through the woods
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no i'm not waking up late
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heyo terrists
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: leave britney alone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.bubblear.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/03plaza.jpg << the wide shot isn't even terrifically convincing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: more or less that "there were peepul!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (bubblear known derps, but nevertheless)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://bubblear.com/224-accusation-unrest-last-nights-nisman-protest/ << mircea_popescu, for contrast to your claims re nisman silence
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ya duh if the defense is "DPR was more than one person" then the obvious next step is "well and of course we shooped the key around"
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