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danielpbarron: no, a "minute" is a long time in the retarded brains of today's youth
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> benkay: what happened to the 'ben_vulpes
mats: in the service of that note, i can't say i particularly care about a guy whose chief 'contribution' is blathering at length on a blog
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: the "experiment", i mean.
danielpbarron: not sure if shinohai's comment is directed at Eulora, but it's 1) not fleeting and 2) i still have the stuff i bought
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: what, did the nick disconnect while i wasn't looking?
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> hah i spent the equiv of his savings on Eulora stuff alone << Exchange rate adjusted I have spent more drinking at 2nd Mardi gras
danielpbarron: i win all the auctions -- doesn't mean i'm profiting :/
danielpbarron: hah i spent the equiv of his savings on Eulora stuff alone
assbot: The number of XT blocks in the last 1000 is almost back to zero : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1g8mz1l )
pete_dushenski: "The $200 I spent was almost 1/3 of my bitcoin savings and I regret wasting my money on this. Maybe I will keep running BitcoinXT at home but I haven't decided."
pete_dushenski: "I thought the support BitcoinXT had was way bigger because of so many people praising it on /r/Bitcoin. I wanted to help scale bitcoin so I spent about $200 to set up 10 BitcoinXT nodes for a month."
pete_dushenski: benkay: what happened to the 'ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: hope is what the world spins on.
mircea_popescu: they didn't manage to save it like syria or wut ?
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 23:36:03; ben_vulpes: eh, just pay for the children.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266760 << the idea of children being -ev is so counter-historical.
benkay: additionally, i do not see substantiation of the drama claims.
benkay: you want further homogeneity? in the cult?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Wouldn't be the same unless we got the money to hire a hot chick to read it
pete_dushenski: www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-08/russia-s-main-bourse-says-trading-halted-across-all-markets << usians not the only ones with 'blow-off valves'
assbot: Where microaggressions really come from: A sociological account | The Righteous Mind ... ( http://bit.ly/1g8kylG )
pete_dushenski: http://righteousmind.com/where-microaggressions-really-come-from/ << A) A Culture of Honor in part 6 aptly describes the wot
BingoBoingo learned more in fewer spans than those in which asciilifeform and mats have discursively danced. I really clear up what the traditional common wisdom has been.
BingoBoingo: I think mats is getting polish. He claims a knowledge base which explains a lotta cognitive dissonance that appears on subjects like ASLR (For the record I use an OS with ASLR by default)
cazalla: i like how the text "no thanks" and "yes" are smaller than big blue buttons that work in their favour
pete_dushenski: cazalla: they say it's lonely at the top
cazalla: logged into the qntra twitter account.. http://i.imgur.com/lBu5pin.png and then! http://i.imgur.com/lrMj3py.png
BingoBoingo: At least this is the healthy sort of dissent
pete_dushenski: i get the sense that it's more than sarcasm coming from mats and i dun take kindly to it.
assbot: You rated user mats on 28-Aug-2015, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Around a while in various forms.
pete_dushenski: i've been trying to put my finger on this mats guy for a while, ever since the decimation episode, and i think i've distilled it. without further ado :
pete_dushenski: aha. is that a show or a movie then ?
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: oh the williams sisters are going at it in a major ? that doesn't happen often enough
midnightmagic: They've claimed that with the microscope on their efforts looking for bugs to discredit them, that this translates into equivalent-to-normal-auditing. (??)
trinque: but sure, something overt would be tactically stupid on their part
trinque: really depends on the difference between weakening in some subtle way vs putting some explicit back-door
midnightmagic: :-o only mike and gavin are publishing gitian sigs for the result. On the small chance they are doing something sneaky, if you gitian and find a mismatch, you could kill xt in about 20 minutes of compile-time per-release.
midnightmagic: trinque: It would be interesting, but he would instantly submarine the entire effort for sure.
BingoBoingo: Who would even use a QT client without compiling it so they could put in coin-control???
midnightmagic: built-in sigs are not very WoT-friendly. Without gitian-gverify'ing a binary, the same thing is technically true from the perspective of people running the main bitcoin bins
trinque: I'm plainly accusing Hearn of not being above putting something malicious in a binary, aside from the gunk they're putting in the source.
shinohai: I meant the precompiled binary they threw up on reddit midnightmagic
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2015 07:16:33; trinque: you want to build your visa? build it on bitcoin, but don't systemd the thing and decide it must have a visa built in
shinohai: Don't even bother to sign them :/
trinque: ahaha, anyone who runs that deserves what they get
trinque: I mean, the XT scumbags can lie about how many are in-field
shinohai: That or just flat-out lie about what client they are.
trinque: shinohai: aka they can lie about their numbers now?
shinohai: The XT camps released their experimental binaries with the "stealth" feature today. Everyone is gushing over that atm.
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 23:49:32; trinque: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540921/the-looming-problem-that-could-kill-bitcoin/ << front page, MIT Tech Review are scum.
trinque: they have been shilling for Gavin/Hearn and XT since the beginning
assbot: Supporters of a Proposal to Upgrade Bitcoin’s Capacity Say Their Computers Are Being Attacked | MIT Technology Review ... ( http://bit.ly/1VMmHDR )
ben_vulpes: but what about the girls' agency, danielpbarron?!!!1ONE!?
ben_vulpes: convenient solution is available if you take the girl and her kids
danielpbarron: another key point is that it is never the virgin who is the victim; it's either her father or her husband. So the modern notion of "cheating" does not apply. It's not adultery for a married man to have sex with another woman so long as she isn't also married to another man
ben_vulpes: eh, just pay for the children.
danielpbarron: it's the right thing to do, to offer the ex-virgin's father payment for her hand in marriage
trinque: but it does seem to lean heavily on whatever the commonly held ideas at the time were re: sex
trinque: danielpbarron: my reading of the thing suggests that's more or less the rule
danielpbarron: shinohai, the key is that the chicks had already been with other dudes who they then should have married. To be honest, I'm not sure if it counts as adultery or not.
ben_vulpes: specially the winblet line - that really blew my stack
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> wow, picking up blondies at porcfest works that well, huh. << hah. I was referring to my past when I didn't yet believe in The Bible
TheNewDeal: !down TheNewDeal
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller gotta love it whgen you try to explain a few points to a redditard and he comes back with pure "i don't want to think!!!" on a stick.
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 22:01:26; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266458 << the principal way through which the usg world of chimps succeeds is by getting the intelligent people to withdraw rather than kill them.\
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 21:46:05; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266334 << listen, here's a plan : move to mongolia, or any of the stans. you're close enough to china to acclimate and also in a sane place. rent a chunk of a local dc and do sysadmin for it.
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 21:36:14; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, im disqualifying the whole production on the basis of the following quote :
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266659 << lol didja miss the part where i said it is a shannonized output ?
ben_vulpes: i forgot this the other day.
ben_vulpes: this car has no (zero!) robots in between me and the wheels.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: who knows what 0days lurk in the abs controller.
mircea_popescu: no. adultery is when you are fucking other than your wife.
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 19:06:41; ascii_field: if everett's picture of consciousness were to turn out physically real, he would remain alive and obscenely loaded in the branch where the bits resolved to the key.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266534 << the final population of the universe is thus one. just, not the same one across the multiverses.
TheNewDeal: I'm just going to ride it out, right now I'm getting paid out of the bet ends No
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 17:19:43; Apocalyptic: I will proceed to verify the sig
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 16:54:55; ascii_field: very doubtful that anything will come of it, but at present time no one, afaik, has so much as asked them.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal i actually like it > 1 btc.
TheNewDeal: gotta be jewish though, I've already taken the other side
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266458 << the principal way through which the usg world of chimps succeeds is by getting the intelligent people to withdraw rather than kill them.\
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 21:58:27; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266439 << what the fuck is a streamium
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266695 <<< Another shitty cam stream for btc service which never worked.
mircea_popescu: but i lulzed at the "open source decentralized" derp's butthurt.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah but i mean... that's kinda like the house too old for plumbing.
mircea_popescu: "In these threads, messages advertising xotika.tv get enormous number of upvotes very fast (way too fast to be legitimate) and the site itself is a fraud - there are a number of different links advertised, for example...:"
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 15:51:13; Naphex: lmao.. so streamium after spamming reddit for months with their angular app. Decide to throw a sissy fit on reddit and play butthurt because of... downvotes :o
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal so you don't buy, just sell ?
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 14:53:35; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266312 << eg me, who drives a car with no antilock brakes and all of the weight in the front
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 20:45:03; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell TheNewDeal care to make me an offer on https://bitbet.us/bet/1188/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/#b18 ? :D
funkenstein_: works either way though
mircea_popescu: for the record, albedo measures reflectivity. below average albedo would mean she's brown. that what you meant ?
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 07:18:40; assbot: I found the AirBnB logo in Trademarks & Symbols of the World published in 1988 - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1VKj9C1 )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266360 << for the record this is pretty much how a third to a half of "start-ups" get a logo afaik.
assbot: [TW: Not tumblr] Github disables repo for use of the word "retard" - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1KBbnIS )
mircea_popescu: https://imgur.com/QC51FZz << dude , the fact that anyone EVEN CONSIDERS using retarded github after something like this...
deedbot-: [Trilema] The importance of backups, from the other side. - http://trilema.com/2015/the-importance-of-backups-from-the-other-side/
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266334 << listen, here's a plan : move to mongolia, or any of the stans. you're close enough to china to acclimate and also in a sane place. rent a chunk of a local dc and do sysadmin for it.
mircea_popescu: somehow they don't insure people per-pound, because women are fat. but they want to sell insurance per mile. because the people who drive more also don't hold their knees together in the subway.
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 04:42:36; asciilifeform: at one point there was a notion of selling insurance per-mile
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266284 << i r lulzed at the "Valued at $25". srsly ? that's what, 1/10000 of yearly rent ? lkulz.
mircea_popescu: i'm thus marking cryptostorm as a russia today of another failgroup.
mircea_popescu: obviously they don't want the actual holes to be known, but sticking to their wants so closely begets failure.
mircea_popescu: seriously, not even MENTION the bios, or the hard drive firmware ?
mircea_popescu: the fact that they list 3 items, all three being from the list of usg-pretend-issues as opposed to the list of actual issues resolves to my mind the propaganda vs information dilemma. this is in no way related to reality, and entirely the result of how someoine wants reality to appear. any similarities to actual reality being purely coincidental.
mircea_popescu: " err I mean "searching the web," is enough to turn up some pretty solid knowledge on any imaginable infosec topic, from post-quantum cryptographic systems to gritty OpSec-spy advice, and off to baked-in processor hardware attack models."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, im disqualifying the whole production on the basis of the following quote :
mircea_popescu: wow check that out, the drawing chick delivered. anyone in europe want to send 100 euros via sepa for me plox ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and the feminists can get back to the gyneceum any time nao. << Get with the times. It is called the GynoDome Sponsored by Hoveround Mobility Scooters now.
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 20:18:47; ascii_field: https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8702 << a bit schizo but overall logic is there.
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266584 << can almost smell the sweat reading this. excellent propaganda re: "nothing is beyond our reach"
mircea_popescu: and the feminists can get back to the gyneceum any time nao.
mircea_popescu: yeah. the some kind of camp is called "the world".
assbot: Feminist research fellow: Put all men 'in some kind of camp' - The College Fix ... ( http://bit.ly/1hUOent )
BingoBoingo: Isn't santa the one who tells Jebus to pick on Steve Job
thestringpuller: that was a quote from "The Boondocks" (tm)
mats: or is it thestringpuller
mats: am i the windows enthusiast
ben_vulpes: i'm enjoying watching the bible thumper and windows enthusiast go at each other
thestringpuller: “The truth is Christmas evolved from the Roman holiday Saturnalia, a winter festival where men gave gifts to each other. They also would get drunk, have sex with each other and beat their wives”
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: i heard jesus was born in the summer.
danielpbarron: santa isn't mentioned in the Bible at all. that and the whole christmas thing are totally wicked abominations. see: http://www.atruechurch.info/christmas.html
kakobrekla: santa did the footnotes tho
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 20:41:27; phf: trinque: modern christian position on divorce, on a role of a woman in household, on a role of man in household, on premarital sex, all sham. fundamentally there's no belief in the bible. no first world christian guy would even consider living according to bible in, say, muslim style. so what constitutes badassery? hunting from a back of a pickup, or "i was linebacker 30 years ago"?
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1261836 << this is true. Most self-described Christians are on the broad path to hell
danielpbarron: salvation is achieved by believing The Bible, and only God can make you do that
mats: i don't have the heart to tell her she's a tourist
mats: my mother is on a missionary trip in myanmar
danielpbarron: jurov, salvation is not achieved through strict adherence to the OT law, but it is still good law to enforce
mike_c: I did not, sorry. I decided to use a crappy subsitute for the moment, and if things work out then talk to you about getting something better.
jurov: hasn't Christ put in place new commandments that makes all the rules in Leviticus (and these were for priests, anyway) obsolete?
shinohai: Must be a question on the applied mathematics section of Andrew Miller's bitcoin exam.
ascii_field: as per the 'crank bait' thread.
ascii_field: it is they who are (whether aware of it or not) usg's intellectual shock troops
ascii_field: one of the necessary things a wot will do for the 'cpunks' folks, if they have collectively half a brain, is to weed out the schizos
ascii_field: https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8702 << a bit schizo but overall logic is there.
mircea_popescu: (and the reason there isn't such a thing as "a barter market" should be illuminating for the whole thing)
funkenstein_: I have noticed markets are places that people go, rather than vice versa
mircea_popescu: otherwise, markets are by definition centralized. this is what they do : they centralize trade. you wish decentralized, stick to barter.
mircea_popescu: every[one,twerp,clueless derp,idiot,internet dog] thinks this is how it goes. and you hear about it, because [somehow] they have all the time in the world to tell you it is so.
mircea_popescu: "market" and "decentralized" go together like "great guy with a great sense of humor that will treat you with the respect you deserve" and "a lot of sex"
funkenstein_: "crowdfund" + glossy website and I didn't look further
mircea_popescu: they're brits, see ? "to have asked in the first place"
mircea_popescu: that's not the exact quote :)
funkenstein_: is there any hope for augur.net?
ascii_field: punkman: usg then 'sewed a case' for him and jailed.
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thestringpuller: i love how people think the consumer matters
assbot: Barrett Brown vs. the Dept of Justice – Defining the Right To Link ... ( http://bit.ly/1LVUbef )
Naphex: want to build the user base and product more
assbot: Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
Naphex: XOtika.tv report (for the interested): Opened for 3 months, 43.6588 BTC total tipped. 3 BTC the largest single tip; 28348 sessions started, 563 members registered, 263 channels created. 0.7751 BTC payout towards affiliates.
ascii_field: if everett's picture of consciousness were to turn out physically real, he would remain alive and obscenely loaded in the branch where the bits resolved to the key.
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 01:33:39; mircea_popescu: they're just numerous and don't give a fuck.
ascii_field: that if hugh everett were alive today, he might build a machine that tests rng output for being the privkey to a fat btc balance, and shoots him in the head if it fails
jurov: magical would be if you made 1IAcceptJesusAsMyL0rd14527 , received btc there and were able to spend it :)
shinohai: I'll make a 1GOD vanitygen address. If 1 BTC magically appears on it then there's my proof.
jurov: And it shall come to pass as it was written "Leviticus 20:13 If a man lays with another man, he should be stoned" - that marijuana and gay merriage were legalized on the same day
danielpbarron: the places that execute adulterers also forbid actually practicing Christianity -- not allowed to say that Islam is a false religion that leads millions to hell
trinque: common people left to their own devices have no idea how to live.
danielpbarron: I'd happily be the first stoned in the newly formed Christian kingdom
ascii_field: could prove embarrassing, to be stoned to death in the public square for such a rookie mistake
ascii_field: danielpbarron: before you move there, verify that none of your clothing is made of mixed fiber...
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 20:08:37; trinque: phf: I can see that point, but I see the problem as a matter of what rules are imposed, not that they are imposed.
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1261766 << The Bible has the best rules. I would much rather live in a kingdom that enforced Old Testement law on its citizens
assbot: Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One) | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1PZsj9L )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: therealmik/batchgcd · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1iuVPtA )
Apocalyptic: I will proceed to verify the sig
Apocalyptic: although qemu warns about "prohibiting raw", I guess that's the bugger, will investigate it...
ascii_field: very doubtful that anything will come of it, but at present time no one, afaik, has so much as asked them.
Naphex: i'll copy the bandaid and pass it on
Naphex: and that's why i'm guessing they are getting downvoted
shinohai: I loved how they pushed that shit so hard for weeks and 99% of the time it never worked.
Naphex: for the lulz
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Naphex: lmao.. so streamium after spamming reddit for months with their angular app. Decide to throw a sissy fit on reddit and play butthurt because of... downvotes :o
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266312 << eg me, who drives a car with no antilock brakes and all of the weight in the front
asciilifeform: as for memorable passwords, i cannot possibly give any useful advice other than 'know more than one and preferably more than two languages'
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 00:59:04; asciilifeform: trinque: 10 to 1 odds the card is her mother's
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265949 << it's even better than you could possibly know, alf. the things can be had for being white, female, and taking 50k in loans out per year while studying art.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if non-memorable, then just take favourite rng and encode output in such a way that it can be re-entered via a keyboard
asciilifeform: what exactly is the objective ?
funkenstein_ would like to hear what kind of "sept. 23" nonsense y'all have come across in dredging the intertubes
funkenstein_: until then, she can stick with "usg is great because kills", "socialism is great because CERN", and "I am valuable because bipedal mouthbreather with below average epidermal albedo"
funkenstein_: As to the sabiduría indígena, it's not worth tying people down to lecture them any more than it is to stick bitcoins up some random grandmother's ass
funkenstein_: and some scathing social commentary, which I believe if you are as much a fan of the writing of mircea_popescu as I am, you will enjoy
funkenstein_: and has some of the best sex and violence this side of Sagittarius A
funkenstein_: the vocabulary of "sleeve" as vehicle of consciousness originated in Richard K Morgan's "Takeshi Kovac" trilogy
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265671 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265675 ya never raced for pinks so that you could buy some racing slicks, racing manifold and defeat the king and win his corvette?
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 00:39:26; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265166 << this happens to be exactly what they did the one time they did it.
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mats: mebbe ill have more luck in the fall
mats: also auditing some mit security courses but the instructors don't seem to have time for me
mats: I'm an anticipating an offer from a boston private univ with a number of decent security researchers so I will be hounding them given the opportunity
assbot: Interpreting the Animal Choices on the World's Most Popular Programming Books - The Awl ... ( http://bit.ly/1FuPfbE )
pete_dushenski: "An Uberized education is when --as in antiquity -- one goes to a specific teacher to get lectures, bypassing the university. The students and the teachers are thus matched. If a piece of paper is necessary, it would be given by *that* teacher, or a group of teachers. It is not too different from the decentralized apprentice model." -herr taleb
pete_dushenski: if you can afford the time off, i doubt a year of autodidacticism would be wasted.
mats: the smart play would be to take the next year off and study, produce projects, but it is hard to gauge how my competency will advance in that time
mats: so I'm fighting several battles on different fronts, lots of 17 hour days for the foreseeable future
pete_dushenski: do you have other projects on the go ?
pete_dushenski: mats: but how comes the pgp keyserver ? will it also be zany ?
asciilifeform: e.g., my brother
mats: >new 228 page report assesses that the global market for automotive usage-based insurance (UBI) will account for 21.7 million policyholders in 2015, a significant increase over the 12.2 million policyholders accounted for in 2014.
assbot: Automotive Usage-Based Insurance (UBI) Market Report 2015-2025 Insurance Telematics and the Connected Car -- LONDON, August 11, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- ... ( http://bit.ly/1VK2IWf )
pete_dushenski: 'folks who had their rates go through the roof from chronically getting into wrecks '
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> at one point there was a notion of selling insurance per-mile << I've got a letter offering to switch to this if had "onstar" or OBDII dongle
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: hehe, presumably via "As to the second point, that America > Europe because the former is in any way free of its own rent-seeking mandarin class, to quote an alf, look no further than USGavin, Paul Graham, Blablalawsky and their continued ability to buy groceries and pay rent."
asciilifeform: at one point there was a notion of selling insurance per-mile
asciilifeform: and i live in the world scam capital.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I thought it was scam they used to keep Normal Ordinary Responsible People paying instead of switching insurers
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski, BingoBoingo: my understanding is that the tracking box is meant as a 'penal' thing for folks who had their rates go through the roof from chronically getting into wrecks - to try to get something like a sane price again
pete_dushenski: then again, i say this as someone who wouldn't drive a car at all if i could only afford to drive a tracking beacon
pete_dushenski: even if it were popular, that'd only put it in the facebook camp of 'retarded things lots of americans do because they're very nearly too stupid to breath and most definitely too stupid to know when they're being raped.'
mats: there are other car insurers who offer the device and will lower your rates if you drive predictably and safely
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:11:39; asciilifeform: and for the predictable game of hopscotch through various 'voluntary', 'voluntary-compulsory', finally compulsory belt-tightenings
pete_dushenski: "The idea is to understand how people drive in the city"The program will also collect data on when a driver breaks hard or makes a sharp, fast turn. The idea, according to the New York Department of Transportation, is to understand how people drive in the city, in the hopes of solving traffic problems including NYC's famous gridlock."
pete_dushenski: "Starting last month, New York City began tracking about 400 people's driving habits, including how much gas they use, when they drive, where they are, and how fast their cars go. The program, called "Drive Smart," promises drivers discounts of up to 30 percent on their Allstate auto insurance, as well as "incentive rewards valued at $25," according to the program website.
thestringpuller: oh another good one
asciilifeform: then again, why would hearn need to host on his own box ??!
thestringpuller: 16:42 <@hearn> that's just a normal home connection, not even the fastest available
thestringpuller: 16:42 <@hearn> who said they had to? i don't have a dedicated connection. got 25 mbit/sec upstream
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: share a choice gibblet or two ?
asciilifeform: but then again nobody asked me.
asciilifeform: there is a good case to be made that a pro hitman like mr horiuchi is a considerably less-loathesome creature than a gavin who lies for money
asciilifeform: btw, for the benefit of non-u.s. folk, i will explain that the missing piece in the 'why no public outrage then' puzzle is that most 'thinking' u.s. people reacted with 'if only the feds would burn EVERY fundamentalist loony church'
trinque: I will certainly indicate on the site that joining the WoT is the next move if you want to use it.
mircea_popescu: and then when they cave and get in the wot, negrating them, of course.
mircea_popescu: up to and including surrounding holdsouts houses with monkeys in combat armor, killing their wives and bitches in no particular order and then impersonating them over the loudspeaker.
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