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(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've yet to get to read macros in my studies
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2015#1048149 << what is the lisp concept and how is hickey crapping on it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the hell is he wearing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: far cuter girls at blues night than mit, dun see why i'd bother
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> in other news, apparently apple released a portable machine that not only has slower cpu clock than the typical such box 5 yrs. ago - but cannot charge and use an external peripheral at the same time! << they want you to buy a thing to make more holes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh that's delightful
(trilema) ben_vulpes: movies get banned in oz?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: x11, the whole nine.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a trillion dollar project if you swallow the whole spitoon of what constitutes modern computing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the argument deserves surfacing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know this, but for the loggerheads.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and silos and etc etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: redoing modern compute is impossible without your own icbm and maintenance staff for.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2015#1047115 << this is why i don't quite buy the "trillion dollar project" argument.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: y'no see the tag, and the drapes, and the tag, and the being of in the bathroom?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also tonight the beast acquired a new trick: "hold the fuck still while i put things on you"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://imgur.com/F6KDREa << my beast, fairly long. yellow object is nine inches.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for you in particular.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why is suspend to ram such a big deal?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://vid.me/e/HNrC << working on obedience at distance in casa vulpes esta noche
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the troll who trained shanley? blocking trolls?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wags was a bust last round according to you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lady v has scheduled this trip to coincide with con3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: her mother's been banging on for a visit recently
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahaha so let me trumpet the superiority of my woman for a moment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'twas promised!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they actually won't let you on the plane without the paper printed out.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, not even *in*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's my own statal agents i've gotta convince the papers are legit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ars is not actually the problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: will anyways.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: old, punched passport?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, do i bring all of my name change paperwork?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but it's filed under the old name.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, he just did a runner?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the link in question is about amazon's use of emacs in their frontline customer support
(trilema) ben_vulpes: somewhere in there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s steak from:benkay
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s steak from:ben_vulpes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this is not news.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have to pay the reciprocity fee again don't i
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh man i changed my name and have a new passport
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it actually choked on my passport name
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah i saw that last year
(trilema) ben_vulpes: by the holy dogfucking jesus i will find them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i will find whoever decided to return 200 from this endpoint and encode the error in xml
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and searches return nada.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i actually don't recall a thread.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trips all sorts of bezzletronic alerts for me, but i lack the context to make judgements.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: what's the braindamage in this "mill" processor?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: fine on the vision, budget was simply my spare time.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> ben_vulpes: 240k... 2-3 people << chinese slaves ? << nobody ever said how many hours.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 2-3 people on your project, no context switching penalties for mobile/backend/html, no technical management burden.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll handle the rest.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: product vision and a six-month commitment at 20K/mo.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up The20YearIRCloud
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh dizee is still around?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pina coladas?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: really, Vexual?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nice find, Vexual
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now that's mining
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't have much choice in the long run.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i'm pretty sure with the state of modern consumer'pute'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i won't do it mindlessly, and i won't go quietly into that dark night.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: instead of doing whatever's imposed upon me by the world, i mean.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, though, should i be doing instead?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i just learned how it works
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but my .Xresources
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jesus fuck x11 as well!?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: transaction*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is the correct data representation for the amount of bitcoin in a transactino?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey does anyone have a link to a multisignature transaction in the main chain?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <decimation> I asked 'why don't you just use a cnc mill to shape the parts'. the answer: 1.) they apparently don't 'do' computers and 2.) the aircraft were all half-ass made to the blueprints anyway, often with 'by hand' adjustments << uh yeah that's how hand machining worked
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but really it comes back to the wot.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this also entails delegating projects of various scope in different domains to them and then carefully reviewing delivered code and user-facing features.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't know about that. generally working with any given individual for a few months is enough to suss out their competence.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: all i know is how to google shit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: "OMG I can make money programming compooters, i'd better jump on the CS bandwagon" << you tell me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is, if you really lack the kind of mind that hungers for something beyond "money".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: avoid "baccalaureate" bezzle, hack js and css.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i still think CS is the worst way to make money programmering.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cute, freecad has a REPL
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lisps are so damn easy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.openscad.org << the cad program i mistook for freecad in a several months old thread.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am indeed unfamiliar with it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.afralisp.net/index.php << decimation i think was looking for CAD scripting?
(trilema) ben_vulpes halfway expects 'node' 'gpg' to shell out to platform bins
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "please compromise and brute force this juicy target."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: key backup as a service is downright braindamaged.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman, thestringpuller: a "better keyserver"'d not be a bad thing to do.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was it even shrem?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the graphical www browser story over on le bsds?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: waaay over my head.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what on earth is tsync?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (although who knows - maybe i'm a moron for trying to pass it quoted empty arrays)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: golang json parser barfs on quoted empty arrays.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mailman is jurov's beast.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "lizard steve".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, feds can't pull their heads out of their arses. apple, otoh, targets you and yours specifically for pain.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: seen, entirely in character for bezzleprocurement.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, the pentagon can barely intercept mail to Fat Kim that has "TOP SEKKREIT PLZ NO BULLY" written all over it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "why are you using macintoshes anyways - don't you get government stipends to buy the 10k windows laptops?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: call cali: "oop, sorry. we don't like your kind."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: east coast gets the bum hardware.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they also know exactly how quality each device is.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apple ships you people all the 'B' grade hardware.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nobody likes that part of the country.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's because you live in the Forbidden City.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has this magical effect of guaranteeing hardware performance for 3 years.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: proverbial "box of benjies".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform has yet to discover "extended care" apparently.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 76, but whatever.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: srs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> which is why the democrats have alternatives. because she's not running. << implying she might run in 8 years?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> asciilifeform clinton's going to claim 'hacked' when one of these emails shows something undue ? << a good reason to use usg mailservers and own your keys
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more effective to not do it and just buy btc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and how'd you know that, asciilifeform?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "but trading isn't gamblinggggg!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now pm assbot thusly: /msg assbot !up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !down coalbe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.coalbe.1:7963e8bebaef17f239758f67e4784ead88f565b669ba7319af114b55def5638b
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !rate coalbe 1 bad puns
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !gettrust coalbe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !rate coalbe 1 really bad puns
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [05:53] am i alone in using wot as was originally taught, 'level of confidence that this key represents person who is what they wish to believe us they are' ? << would this be the ancient "gpg wot" standard?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <decimation> [05:35] asciilifeform: I feel sorry for the poor guy, his heart is in the right place but he has no idea what kind of elephant he is trying to eat << more like a spittoon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> [05:31] mircea_popescu: Has #b-a actually banned ever? << tiberius.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think i get it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oop! limited recourse i mean.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so borrower defaults, lender gets house and payments.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i curious about the no-recourse mortgages as well. lender returns payment stream, keeps asset?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, another ryan c.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ryan-c: do i know you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sjsqd: also, don't poison the well against yourself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <sjsqd> I understand the idea of bitcoin universes << what you don't seem to understand is that there are separate WoTs in action.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <sjsqd> its all calculated automatically as far as I'm aware << so how would you know if things are working as expected?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look into qntra.net
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> think of them as the foundation and the phoundation, with the other guys being the ph << no, we're the fundation!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you yourself may ascertain whatever you may ascertain.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <sjsqd> nubbins`: the goal of my articles is to try and ascertain how transparently the foundation currently operates << the goal of your articles is to apparently rack up pageviews.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <sjsqd> but is it correct to title it as the 'pirate' bitcoin foundation? << no.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sjsqd: a bitcoin client.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the goal is to do that and nothing more.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the question under consideration is "what precisely does it mean to bitcoinate?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no win32, no qt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a right, asciilifeform excised the dns.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dns is on the chopping block, etc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: someone removed the "alert" feature
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no "gavinblocks"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sjsqd: it's just. old. code.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sjsqd: it's just the old code.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [04:55] that the fella actually thought he was 'using pgp' << wait wut? who biffed at this epic scale?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you're not the poor sod who'd starve without coding either.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: discipline thyself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: adlai: this distraction thing is a human factors problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.vhost-.2:45f33ea63fd332565cd5944c27d4e2d71efa99db12620aef65556fa23229d0f5
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !rate vhost- 2 taught me much
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whoa a vhost-?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the freemen who take 100% plus organs are actually the lords.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from "diamond age"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: merely that someone must.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: im not saying the *usg* has to hold the roads and rails.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myeah well that's a given.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there are more or less 2 major thoroughfares, and they're pretty chokeable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: migrations north are going to be slow.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay here's an argument for a protracted decline
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't know, man! it's one fifteen in the morning and i'm tearing my hair out over how to plan for just the next decade.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "fuck everything that happens, i'm in the wot."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm, mebbe that's the attitude.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> dude, i have nfi << me neither, i'm just a millwright trying to not starve this decade.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, it's a good question.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suppose that this is more properly spoken of in certainty intervals?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's *gotta* have another 5 years left in it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm leaning towards the fiatbezzle right now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but fuck my life is it hard to put time horizons on that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's trivial to say "clearly whatever whatever power structure will fall over."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and there's this impossible time horizon estimation problem that the "end of civilization" brings with it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: everything must be valued in not only dollar payouts, but twenty-one-millionth payouts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: #bitcoin-assets, by the way, has made investing *harder* for me, not *easier*.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so here's the thing about shartups:
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ugh yeah and ofc shartups.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 99% of that is likely attributable to simply how much longer they've been doing it for.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can think of fifteen utterly moronic doodz doing running precisely the same hustle and making vastly more money at it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: here's the thing that makes me discount my own equity though:
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actually, i totally get it all of a sudden.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah i have no idea how to account for that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right, so we come back around to equity which i clearly don't understand formally.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on the other hand, during those thing months, the "bankers" walk with hours*rate, and i lose money.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the linked article on one hand doesn't make a terrific amount of sense to me because for whatever reason (perhaps i'm a particularly well-doing con man), i can sell into the buy side of "professional services" at rates that my "bankers" can't touch on their own.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: instead, i coordinate work of the type i could perform on my own. that work costs me, let's say .8B. i bill at ~1.8. on volume, my take home is ~1.5B/hr (assuming 40hrs/wk, 50wks/yr. salary equality assumptions, etc.).
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (impossible, but for rounding errors)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i could freelance, at some rate - let's say 2BTC/hr
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let's try again.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps the dillema isn't so clear to me, likely due to symbolic confusion.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: profits being that which is left over after paying out contractors, staff, rent etc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so equity being ownership stake in derpy consulting co.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's a reasonable set of symbols?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's certainly possible.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for tax reasons, i clock infinity hours, get paid exactly the same amount (for medicare/aid purposes) each month.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: devs clock time, get paid hours. simple maffs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the equity will continue to bear the majority of the variability in profits" << painfully true.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "when the employees can leave and set up shop across the street with almost no need for equity capital" << this is absolutely true, except for the part where they have to close deals. make friends with checkbooks, convince checkbooks of non-retardation, etc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mk let's try again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so basically i can't really figure anything out.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but at the same time, because i'm not a nightmare to work with, i have a near-infinite sell wall of talent.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps i'm insane or a particularly good scammer, but i can close deals that none of the programmers on staff could ever dream of. hilariously, because they're on staff.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just rings too true for comfort though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the equity will continue to bear the majority of the variability in profits. This view, while not the standard economic view, has the advantage of being supported by reality. (It also accounts for why non-partner-owned professional services firms tend to conglomerate, but that’s another post.)”
(trilema) ben_vulpes: increases in revenue. On the other hand,
(trilema) ben_vulpes: I don’t believe payments to owners in professional services firms are the residual profits. And why should they be, when the employees can leave and set up shop across the street with almost no need for equity capital? In the implicit negotiation over distribution of revenue, the employees have all the bargaining power. The equity will be paid a fair return, but will not receive any structural
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shit like...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and on the other hand, well, nominal equity in a thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: dude on one hand i constantly bemoan this: 'oh if only i were just freelancing i'd be rolling in the dough'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways as a point of data, it's year 1.5ish of this insane enterprise, and i'm just now beginning to approach the salary of a "programmer" in my geographic region.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski the man is complaining about tin women ffs
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