ascii_rear: or rather, ssh ~over ssh~
mircea_popescu: who the fuck sends passwords over the wire one character at a time is beyond the scope of this discussion/
ascii_rear: 'It is widely believed that 0.1 seconds is about the limit for the response time for a user to feel that the system is reacting instantaneously [32]. Therefore in practice, the window size will have to be smaller than that. Our own experience with the Keyboard JitterBug shows that 20 ms is a perfectly acceptable window size and this amount of added lag for each keystroke is effectively unnoticeable by the user.'
ascii_rear: ty mod6. re: 'jitterbug', could be interesting to wire up some consumer keyboards to a thing that fakes a press for each key and determines time-to-signal-on-the-wire.
ascii_rear: but the schoolbook demo is lulzy
ascii_rear: r link is encrypted. Our experiments suggest that simple Keyboard JitterBugs can be a practical technique for capturing and exfiltrating typed secrets under conventional OSes and interactive network applications, even when the receiver is many hops away on the Internet.'
ascii_rear: Keyboard JitterBug that solves the data exfiltration problem for keystroke loggers by leaking captured passwords through small variations in the precise times at which keyboard events are delivered to the host. Whenever an interactive communication application (such as SSH, Telnet, instant messaging, etc) is running, a receiver monitoring the host’s network traffic can recover the leaked data, even when the session o
ascii_rear: 'This paper introduces JitterBugs , a class of inline interception mechanisms that covertly transmit data by perturbing the timing of input events likely to affect externally observable network traffic. JitterBugs positioned at input devices deep within the trusted environment (e.g., hidden in cables or connectors) can leak sensitive data without compromising the host or its software. In particular, we show a practical
ascii_rear still thinks it could be interesting to set up a number of publicly identifiable (version patch) nodez and watch the enemy reaction
pete_dushenski: mod6 ascii_rear i have the pubkeys in .wot and also in /root/.gnupg/pubring and yet i'm still getting "can't check signature: public key not found" (http://dpaste.com/3416RC7.txt)
mircea_popescu: "assbot gives it to ascii in the rear"
adlai preps the leaflets: "When was the last time anybody actually verified the seals on Napoleon's tomb? All seven of them!?"
ascii_rear: nobody other than mircea_popescu (and napoleon?) ever rode on a horse in egypt ?
mircea_popescu: and in today's random what the fuck! https://k1.okccdn.com/php/load_okc_image.php/images/175x5/650x479/0/11173367338413991822.jpeg
adlai: thestringpuller: pls to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=someday#sometime << your response
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you hafta understand this "X is a scammer" bullshit is pretty much ALWAYS some sort of entrenched structure trying to wash its sins on the cheap. oh, "madoff" scammed ? Really ? HE diod it ? not the 1k+ "experts" that recommended him to his clients etc ? not all the various "supervisors" and "authorities" ? it was... maddof ? << this is why goat et. al pumping pirate have vanished from existence.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: Mebbe if you WoT'd the guy actually talk to him before joining a rate frenzy? << I rated him based on multiple btc purchases, all of them went smooth. I haven't seen/talked to him for many moons. People change.
pete_dushenski: mod6: cheers. i'll give trinque's a shot since i haven't started the build just yet. just populating .wot atm.
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adlai: toys in the attic
mod6: either should work fine for you. try trinque's if you hvaen't started the build yet. otherwise, np.
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 16:58:10; trinque: http://deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-151224.sh << made minor changes such that there's a build dir and binary's crapped into bin in the current dir
mod6: mainly just to unbury the static binary once built.
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 19:00:53; adlai: re:litecoin and our dearly departed aryan posterchild for bitcoin entrepeneurship... "It has a little value purely as a backup blockchain in case some critical flaw destroys Bitcoin's blockchain (assuming the same flaw doesn't affect LTC)."
mod6: pete_dushenski: ah ok. cool then, but yeah, shinohai was right, there /are/ i386/i686 steps available - although, i think I haven't updated them since V became a thing.
mircea_popescu: it died over the kicking and screaming pile of the aforenamed and more, flying to japan to "Save it" and etc.
pete_dushenski: mod6: looks like that's what i WAS doing. taking a crack from another angle now (debian 8 x86_64 bit)
assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 17:42:47; ascii_field: 'Now the Sirens have a still more fatal weapon than their song, namely their silence. And though admittedly such a thing has never happened, still it is conceivable that someone might possibly have escaped from their singing; but from their silence certainly never.' (ol' franz k.)
ascii_rear: in the sense where usg could have burned down gox ages before it died on its own, but see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-11-2015#1322048
mod6: pete_dushenski: are you trying to build rotor+TEST2 on i686? (sorry, i'm kinda coming in the middle of this convo.)
mircea_popescu: forget about looking where the scam troop tries to direct your gaze and instead look at the man pointing.
mircea_popescu: the actual crystal ball involved is just a bauble. could have been any random other item,
mircea_popescu: there's nothing remarkable about mtgox other than the facrt that merck, and vessenes, and gavin and theymos and ver and who have you kept pushing it.
mircea_popescu: there is nothing special about pirate other than the fact that theymos, and gigavps, and grubbles and EVERYONE ELSE kept pushing him.
pete_dushenski: i'll give it another go with a proper 64 bit os
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you hafta understand this "X is a scammer" bullshit is pretty much ALWAYS some sort of entrenched structure trying to wash its sins on the cheap. oh, "madoff" scammed ? Really ? HE diod it ? not the 1k+ "experts" that recommended him to his clients etc ? not all the various "supervisors" and "authorities" ? it was... maddof ? fuck that.
thestringpuller: You once said, "More scammers, the more trustworthy the legitimates become", but I see less real business to scam ratio
ascii_rear: we may have to add whatever this thing is to the rotten linuxen list
ascii_rear: pete_dushenski: there's weird shit in your PATH
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: Linux [name] 2.6.32-042stab108.8 #1 SMP Wed Jul 22 17:23:23 MSK 2015 i686 GNU/Linux
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i was thinking the other day. bitcoin just has scammers. just as the world is filled with worms. pirateat40 was very low IQ scammer. then mt. gox tried to hide a little better not by alot.
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: can you paste the output of `uname -a`
mircea_popescu: nevertheless - they're not young men, fated to one day be mature men. they're worms. not caterpillars. worms. fated to NEVER be anything but worms.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller> BitGo says: "My personal view at this point is that it's more important that we successfully accomplish an intentional hard fork" << yes, it would be important for their self-validaiton. just like every pimply teenager is right in suspecting that the most important thing they could be doing for their own maturity is actually bedding a woman already.
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 04:58:44; mircea_popescu: anyway, for pete_d and anyone else who might have encountered difficulty with trb or fears they might : it's actually rather painless. 1. you create an account on a server ; 2. you cd /home/account_name ; 3. you create a .wot directory (mkdir .wot) ; 4. you put the pubkeys of people you trust in there as name1.asc, name2.asc etc ; 5. you download the rotor script (curl deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-9999
pete_dushenski: mod6 ascii_rear et al. : the following are the various snippits of error messages from my most recently attempts at 99997k on debian 7 : http://dpaste.com/3SPWKDN.txt : any help is much appreciated.
ascii_rear: http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_big.php?n=2369 << the examples in the manual involve neutron kinetics in reactor
ascii_rear: in other non-nyooz,
adlai half-continues the altkoin thread: "Rejection reason: Coinmarketcap is not a usable resolution source. Please resubmit with a reliable source for such data if you can." << does anybody nominate more reliable sources?
thestringpuller: adlai: slowly but surely. the theme is mainly done but have to do more wordpress-y things which i do enough of at work as is...
adlai: you seemed to also be on the verge of starting one, maybe i misread.
assbot: 42 results for 'from:thestringpuller blog' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Athestringpuller+blog
adlai: !s from:thestringpuller blog
adlai lets sober adlai pick it up, someday. maybe on his sober blog, although the drunk one is much likelier to see the light of day phirst...
ascii_rear: if there were moar of this, possibly folks wouldn't unrate
adlai shuts up again,alert reader can (apply #'adlai #&environment) themselves
adlai: there's roughly one blockchain i'm aware of which DOES have positive-epsilon backup-value, and it's not fucking woodcoin
adlai: ie, it has zero value as a backup blockchain, because it's all the same code, only with fewer fixes and more "it wasn't broken, why did you fix it?"
adlai: re:litecoin and our dearly departed aryan posterchild for bitcoin entrepeneurship... "It has a little value purely as a backup blockchain in case some critical flaw destroys Bitcoin's blockchain (assuming the same flaw doesn't affect LTC)."
adlai would also be curious to hear how ascii_rear recommends transporting it [within the greater DC area] such that it remains in working order
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for shinohai from -1 to -1 with note: thinks it's a fucking game
ascii_rear: hence a single, solitary lispm is rather like a solitary mig-29
ascii_rear: these are quite like a ford t
adlai hasn't given you btc yet... gotta make sure the taker takes as well
adlai like any srs trdr does not reveal both source and destination in the same breath
ascii_rear: not so many takers for these, who don't already have one.
adlai: reddit is overflowing with shills telling people "exchange -> wallet -> other wallet -> electrum -> exchange -> shapeshift -> exchange ->etc"
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 16:05:45; copypaste: indeed mircea_popescu, but you're missing the point; it's worth more to USG to have people that run services like Paxful out of the equation than the costs of putting them in jail
ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1357391 << relationship of usg with the penny-ante criminal caste is quite like that of gamekeeper and deer. see also mega-classic 'hitler's table talk.'
ascii_rear: ty thestringpuller
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 18:20:32; thestringpuller: so evoorhees blasts litecoin with https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rjv6l/my_response_to_a_litecoin_advocate/ then goes on to found shapeshift.io ...
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1357368 "force them to clean folds and give massages" win
thestringpuller: so evoorhees blasts litecoin with https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rjv6l/my_response_to_a_litecoin_advocate/ then goes on to found shapeshift.io ...
adlai: those (the edits) are hebrew for "like satoshi himself", and "btw he's a gypsy"
adlai: so uhm, mircea_popescu tells me to shut up so i did,wandered over to fuckerbergia, troll around a bit, then this happens: http://i.imgur.com/rNWRjU3.png
adlai: !up for an !up leaves the rhyme unfinished
thestringpuller: qntra is the fastest loading website
BingoBoingo: So qntra website should be even faster still than it was the last time I said it got faster here in channel. Please let me know if it is not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well sure. i was discussing the "what is taxpayer billed" angle.
copypaste: you're digging your own grave by incorporating there and partnering with companies that all agree to prevent "money laundering", then in the next breath telling your clients to lie to those companies in order to transact
copypaste: it happened to bitinstant, coin.mx, and so on; i see no reason to think why it won't happen to Paxful just because the dollar amounts are on average smaller
copypaste: indeed mircea_popescu, but you're missing the point; it's worth more to USG to have people that run services like Paxful out of the equation than the costs of putting them in jail
adlai: state commonly encountered among open source programmers, homeless alcoholics, and the mentally retarted
asciilifeform: eats synthetic sludge.
asciilifeform: usaschwitz prisoner - even in the Big Zone ('freedom') - is rarely fed actual bread, or even clean water
asciilifeform: so to return to mircea_popescu's wild supposition, the answer is no - it is much CHEAPER to house a prisoner or pay a guard in usaschwitz than in, e.g., su
asciilifeform: the high wages in usa come simply from the sheer volume of bezzle sloshing around, and don't actually buy anything interesting (the lack of shit rivers in the streets has nothing whatsoever to do with the number of zeroes in front of the decimal point)
adlai: don't forget the lobbyist who asymptotically restores linearity
asciilifeform: (answer: yes! to the tax collector! he gets nonlinearly moar)
asciilifeform: let's put it this way, if $firm were to put N additional zeroes in front of my wage, and landlord put the same number of zeroes in front of my rent, does this make any practical difference ?
adlai: well naturally i'm capping the sample set at positive amounts of satoshi... if you're too stupid to make money, you don't have negative income. you are funemployed.
asciilifeform: the prison guard (or whoever else) cannot take the salary and spend it on N slaves in the turd world
asciilifeform: so to speak of it ~costing n times avg income on the planet~ or whatnot, is misleading, because the circulatory loop is closed
asciilifeform: guard is paid $x, he - like every other working stiff in usaschwitz - goes back and spends $x-epsilon on housing racket and tax
BingoBoingo: Alright took the opportunity to chop on qntra a bit. Page loading should be still faster.
asciilifeform: (see the 'turkey-buying dollar' thread)
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 13:25:58; mircea_popescu: it costs n times the LIFETIME AVERAGE INCOME of the world's poorest billion to keep a dude in jail for a year.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1357259 << talking about what something costs in usaschwitz is rather tricky
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 13:22:20; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, let me know when it'd be a good time to do the 128-256gb ram upgrade.
mircea_popescu: i guess technically speaking there is no such thing as "downward volatility".
BingoBoingo: ^ Let me know in the comments if I missed anything
adlai does his... or is this not how the wot works?
shinohai: There, I did my part.
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for mircea_popescu with note: pretty much the only guy who tells me when to shut up
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes asciilifeform jurov if you'd kindly consider whether the noise is worth it i'd be grateful kthx.
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 10:25:27; punkman: do you know thenewdeal fellow?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1357092 << i was just skimming through the unflushed toilet, trying to discern if any ACTUAL PEOPLE had anything to say during all the braying of NON PEOPLE, ran into punkman, lolled.
BingoBoingo: if you click the navbar link
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski get an actual Archive page for the Contravex already
adlai: lol, even the donation address is a bounty in favor of sedition
mircea_popescu: anyway. lo and behold, most of the womenz trying to date online have a god damned reason for it! behind a monitor, nobody knows you're short!
mircea_popescu: dumbgendered, to go with the mayogendered.
adlai: what if they're s/fe//?
mircea_popescu: the intersection between "suprmodel" and "okcupid" turns out to be nil.
mircea_popescu: here's a fun tidbit i forgot to mention in the dedicated article : out of ~278k female profiles (which really seem to be the total of the meat of okcupid, ie, women under 30) there is exactly NO actual female 180 cm or over. a buncha trannies but those obviously are not female.
adlai vaped on a high chair while yuval cohen did the jazz thing, !rate him 10/10 would listen again
BingoBoingo has spent the entire week safely on high ground
adlai goes on vacation, it's good for the soule
mircea_popescu: oh, we're gonna talk about the MWh an atomic dirigible burns ?
mircea_popescu: it's a fucking soup out there. (turns out cooling humid air is way more energetically demanding than cooling dry air. who knew!)
mircea_popescu: and then people derp about mining being eco-unfriendly./
mircea_popescu: there you go, 144kWh per sqft, that's over 70 MWh for a two girl apt.
mircea_popescu: do you realise that with temperatures in the 30s and humidity over 5000% i spend about 100w per sq ft to keep the terrariums livable
mircea_popescu: it costs n times the LIFETIME AVERAGE INCOME of the world's poorest billion to keep a dude in jail for a year.
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 08:03:42; copypaste: At least Charlie laundered millions of dollars, they'll be going to jail over 50 cups of coffee and some $1 prostitution ads
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1356977 << you don't understand. jail in the us is actually better accommodations than what most of the world enjoys.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, the bottleneck for what phuctor does is ram, so whatcha gonna do.
assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 07:57:10; copypaste: I never quite understood the purpose of this "company"; founded in USA yet ignoring USG rules to transfer quantities of $1 using Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1356966 << alf has a theory that all these low effort "law breaking" things exist as usg-run operations to find and document wreckers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, let me know when it'd be a good time to do the 128-256gb ram upgrade.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
adlai: ;;later tell danielpbarron what's the least you'd be willing to pay for an "mpex shuffle" generator?
assbot: 42 results for 'from:thestringpuller blog' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Athestringpuller+blog
adlai: !s from:thestringpuller blog
adlai should really do a blog post explaining how "tinder for coinjoin" works, but then he'd be executed for blatand shillery
adlai pushes to the stack of someday blog posts: "10 reasons why arbitrageurs should sell the ride and rent a bike"
adlai: years later to be reinvented by one japanese neckbeard who loved to gamble but hated paying a cut to the statehouse
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:37:55; jurov: cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak
adlai hands the content curation baton back to shinohai
adlai: also, real porn tends to have fewer clothes, unless it's phashion porn
adlai: pff, "The real problem is if Bitcoin whales choose Core"... the real problem is not getting stepped on by elephants
ith: Well I'd love to stay and chat about this further. Thank you for making the end of my day a bit better, anyway. I'm afraid that I have to leave now. Be back tomorrow evening. See you and thank you all for chipping in to unravel this mystery!
BingoBoingo: Every single one on a toilet at a time. "They" emerged at 0 flush
BingoBoingo: Some industrial processes were never meant to exist so close to each other.
BingoBoingo: We can out of oil and phosphorous so instead of drilling and mining the ground, we stopped processing sewage and started mining it.
ith: And then what?
ith: So a bio false flag, then...
BingoBoingo: The most horrid biological distaster in history. We were too greedy. Too careless.
ith: What are you referring to? _what_ happens in the pipes?
BingoBoingo: It happens in the pipes
BingoBoingo: I can't because we stopped calling them logs after 0 flush out of respect.
ith: And I apparently don't have friends, and my movements are tracked 24 / 7 so I can't access an uncompromised computer to get on the current internet
ith: Sigh. Would you kindly email me those logs? I can't get them myself
BingoBoingo: ith: Stop PM'ing me. Fine what happens is you die in a shitstorm. Literally. You were on the toilet at 0 flush.
punkman: I don't have anything past 2015 either
ith: you could email me a copy of the logs if you wanted to
ith: The copy I'll get will be from 2015, and this is 2017 so I wouldn't learn anything I don't already know
ith: They might kill me if you don't give me more information
ith: And too intelligent. And too unwilling to go along with their plans (for the New World Order, and the like)
ith: They don't like me, I'm afraid. I'm too good
ith: I don't have much time, and I might not get the chance to speak again. Why don't you give me some information that I can use while I'm here? I could be cut off tomorrow
ith: Who controls the military now?
ith: I downloaded a porn video from a site specializing in making people cuckold a week or so ago. I need more information please. It would have to have been serious. How did the president leave office?
ith: How did the US come to not have a president?
ith: And please answer the above questions
ith: That's true, and I thought of that... however the problem is that to get me those coins, they would have to compromise the wallet I'd use to receive them, and my computer would stay compromised
BingoBoingo: 7 legs, lots of teeth, but very slow. Well the seventh isn't technically a leg...
ith: I can't stay stuck two years in the past
ith: What the heck does that mean?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell ith You'll find out once these things reach your time.
ith: I'm going to have to disappear in about 30 minutes. Any answers to the above questions would be appreciated when you're back
BingoBoingo: !up punkman You know the minivan sized furballs that are a pestillence on the North America continent during our as opposed to ith's current epoch
ith: Perhaps you'd care to answer some of the questions above that I put to BingoBoingo?
punkman: do you know thenewdeal fellow?
ith: When do I get put back on the /live/ internet, and not this two year out of date thing?
ith: People are screwing with me from down stairs right now -- you know that right? -- when you just decided to run off out to the garden...
ith: But what happened to get rid of the president, though? And which president was -- what -- booted out?
BingoBoingo: brb, gotta chase a womp out of the garden
ith: How did the president go down, or fail to get elected / come into office?
BingoBoingo: they aren't, not too bad actually
ith: Well if there's no president, how are things working in the United States? What's life like for a person down there?
ith: I see. Totally chaos down there? Civil war? Anarachy?
BingoBoingo: There's no economy or president
ith: or delayed two years, rather
ith: And isn't the 0.25% yearly? What happened to get it switched to monthly?
punkman: ith, there are many forks, some people are at year 1437, you claim to be in 2017, but I'm telling ya 1832 is where it's at
Quent: BingoBoingo, yes, but it is just you who is not accepting it and that makes no difference whatever to yourself or the network
ith: Where is the Japanese guy?
Quent: like with SW, you can not upgrade all you want, but if everyone else does, and especially if the miners do, then you are forked off if not upgraded
BingoBoingo: But because the "network" accepts new stuff doesn't mean I have to
Quent: softforking seems to me to simply be a deceptive way for miners to rule and the network have no say...
ith: And I'm sure you will give the same answer again /next/ year about >2LSD
Quent: but, conceptually as well, if an older node considers the new rules to be just noise the older node is effectively forked off...
ith: And you gave me the same >2LSD code answer last year. Please explain yourself
BingoBoingo: Quent: They really don't. The test is whether or not node sealed in concrete without admin port needs chiseled out or not
ith: No, it is not. Please tell me the truth
ith: So guys. I know you've been playing tricks on me. Care to tell me why all the receipts I get are saying 2015, and my computer clock says 2015, when it's actually 2017????!!!
Quent: hmm, guess america is asleep huh so should prob come back in the evening
Quent: you guys in favour of blocksize increase now in the Bitcoin Unlimited style?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
copypaste: A business based on lying to your partners is sure to fail; just a WoT suspends the failure by not letting any moron join in on the fun of transacting
copypaste: I'm sure Bitcoin-averse bank branches will soon catch on to the computer nerds walking in and all depositing cash to the same account, no?
copypaste: "a. Important: Do not mention bitcoin to the teller as banks are reluctant to work with bitcoin and may deny the deposit with no reason why.
BingoBoingo: Well, these are the things you learn having visited the bitinstant website in August 2012
BingoBoingo: At the point you partner up to an SMS payment network you're asking for the telecom regulators to plumb your butt on top of everyone else
copypaste: I had no idea they were using that SNS system
copypaste: You have to be a complete fool to think that the regime with the most strict "money laundering" laws would allow that to continue for any amount of time
BingoBoingo: To be fair charlie also single dollars at a time too. He even for a while did the fucking SMS deal that bills a phone company.
copypaste: At least Charlie laundered millions of dollars, they'll be going to jail over 50 cups of coffee and some $1 prostitution ads
copypaste: Indeed, and incorporating in the US, and further making it everyone else's problem that they exist in such poverty that the ability to transfer funds one satoshi at a time is a make-or-break for the business
copypaste: It's incredible how foolish these people are, unable to learn from history, and founding their Bitcoin "businesses" in USG territory
copypaste: I never quite understood the purpose of this "company"; founded in USA yet ignoring USG rules to transfer quantities of $1 using Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: in other news,
mircea_popescu: not that i'd use key material there generated for any purpose. BUT it's worth pointing out yet another way computers a) don't work and b) can't be fixed.
mircea_popescu: (ie, rhel "backports" "fixes" so that you CAN'T actually get the latest version. or whatever, 5.3 bs is their idea of a latest version in this environment)
mircea_popescu: fucking logical. because why the fuck would something work.