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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like what ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: such as desks that would easily fit in public toilet stalls, etc
asciilifeform: but neither this nor any of the other elements taken separately was the interesting bit
asciilifeform: the interesting, if you will, bit, was the whole put-your-pistol-in-your-mouth-every-night banal deadly boredom of the entire shebang.
mircea_popescu: civilisation is not for everyone.
gabrielradio: THEREFORE, it is established that any Bitcoin company, or trader or merchant or other entity deriving a worldly profit from the otherworldly workings of Bitcoin, is to pay a tax in sum of 0.1% or a hundred thousand satoshi per full Bitcoin realised, into the coffers of the Bitcoin Foundation
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gabrielradio: does one need to send this from an address known as his, so as to prove his satisfaction of the obligation?
trinque: prove to whom?
gabrielradio: to the foundation, i guess
trinque: could make a deed of it.
trinque: as several bitcoin bitcoin businesses already do.
trinque: s/bitcoin//
trinque: computer died mid-sentence :p
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assbot: Embedded in Academia : Nine ways to break your systems code using volatile ... ( http://bit.ly/1ToDV87 )
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assbot: Just got arrested for buying stolen gift cards with Bitcoin and then re-selling them. I did not know they were stolen. BEING CHARGED WITH A FELONY!!! What do I do??? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4z6mD )
punkman: "Over 6 months I bought about $30,000 worth of Starbucks gift cards for about $6,000." no shit sherlock
assbot: Mt. Etna erupts in spectacular volcanic event. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4zGAy )
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adlai: "Roman records from 122BC show a large eruption eruption... taxes were cancelled for 10 years to help locals rebuild" << again the capacitor knob
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55800 @ 0.00050517 = 28.1885 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115300 @ 0.00050561 = 58.2968 BTC [+] {2}
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punkman: "Brian Snow, former director of Information Assurance for the NSA said it best at a conference in Greece recently: "I’m here to tell you that your cyber systems continue to function and serve you not due to the expertise of your security staff but solely due to the sufferance of your opponents"."
mircea_popescu: brian snow quoting #b-a without attribution.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck do they teach in "information assurance" class if they've not gotten to plagiarism yet!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86805 @ 0.0005084 = 44.1317 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: <gabrielradio> to the foundation, i guess << trhe whole point is that it's voluntary. so you can do whatever you want.
mircea_popescu: ahaha that redditard guy. "i did not know you were stolen your honoars!!!!" "were they discounted ?" "well yes, but this totally happens all the time" "with what ?" "with for instance... stolen cars, if people sell it to the chop shop... or if someone is selling something out of the trunk downtown ? or like... if it's you know, like we say on the street hot" "..."
gabrielradio: "this obligation is a moral requirement, and outside of the opinion of the sovereign people it will not be enforced."
gabrielradio: yes, but say someone in b-a inquires about your payments to the foundation
mircea_popescu: well, jurov is teh treasurer. he might be amenable to making arrangements for you, if it's a significant sum. alternatively, you can use the forward secret method.
mircea_popescu: (make deed today that "i will pay sum so and so to foundation address tomorrow", then pay tomorrow.)
mircea_popescu: the adequacy of bitcoin is eerly evident in this context : "what happens if someone sees my secret and steals it ?" "well... i guess you can pay again."
mircea_popescu: clearly this thing is not coming from anywhere we've seen before.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27062 @ 0.00050713 = 13.724 BTC [-]
adlai: you can also sign from the input addresses
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97800 @ 0.00049619 = 48.5274 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58807 @ 0.000496 = 29.1683 BTC [-]
deedbot-: rejected: 1
shinohai: god fucking dammit why can't I do this right? >.<
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Federal Reserve will raise interest rate at December FOMC meeting - http://bitbet.us/bet/1221/federal-reserve-will-raise-interest-rate-at-december/#b27
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79300 @ 0.00049623 = 39.351 BTC [+] {2}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75050 @ 0.00049591 = 37.218 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: shinohai: just verify them on your end before trying to submit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56600 @ 0.00049824 = 28.2004 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: 'even die hards like the charismatic chief research officer of anti virus firm FSecure (Mikko Hypponen) have to concede their utility (or lack thereof). In a recent post he wrote: "What this means is that all of us had missed detecting this malware for two years, or more. That's a spectacular failure for our company, and for the antivirus industry in general.. This story does not end with Flame. It's highly likely there are ot
asciilifeform: her similar attacks already underway that we havn't detected yet. Put simply, attacks like these work.. Flame was a failure for the anti-virus industry. We really should have been able to do better. But we didn't. We were out of our league, in our own game."' << mega-l0l!!
asciilifeform: Run Moar Winblowz!!111
asciilifeform: Run Moar Antivirus!
asciilifeform: Buy Moar Wintel.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336309 << mega-piece and every word of it is true.
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 07:10:21; punkman: http://blog.regehr.org/archives/28
asciilifeform: but compiler optimization retardation is not limited to the effects described therein
asciilifeform: i have seen some truly astonishing idiocies.
asciilifeform: (does anyone recall the very recent thread re: gcc optimizing away a certain kind of security check WHEN EXPLICITLY ASKED NOT TO ?)
asciilifeform: and the snivelling little piece of shit who piped up to defend this ?
asciilifeform: it wasn't drepper, or poettering, somebody unknown
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asciilifeform: re: yesterday's 'd-wave' thread: i often wonder what would happen if somebody were to demonstrate a machine, costing fiddybux instead of fiddymillion, that has the exact same performance on the exact same problems using... ordinary op-amps
asciilifeform: (demonstrating that 'd-wave' is simply a monstrously overpriced analogue calculator)
asciilifeform: now, nobody will do this for sane commercial reasons because - afaik - nobody actually required these toy problems ~solved~
asciilifeform: quickly, or otherwise.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40230 @ 0.00050015 = 20.121 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: i also can't help but appreciate the sheer magnitude of the 'fud' surrounding 'd-wave' - as if there could be any doubt whatsoever that the box is a work of charlatanry (doesn't run shor's algo and break rsa? not quantum comp. QED.)
thestringpuller: so much coinbase dick sucking everywhere
shinohai: i saw that. One post about them on reddit got gilded x3
mircea_popescu: what does that do ?
thestringpuller: it means the redditards liked what you wrote so much, they bought you reddit gold.
thestringpuller: 3 times!
mircea_popescu: which does...
thestringpuller: nothing but state you spent money via reddit in their name.
thestringpuller: which is redditarded.
thestringpuller: to think redditnotes was almost a thing
thestringpuller: and who the fuck is Steve Sokolowski?
mircea_popescu: why are we redoing the flame thing ? it's not 2012 anymore, and srsly, "one of the most sophisticated, md5-hash based, windows-only piece of crapolade ever" ?
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was mentioned on account of having been found by same av co. as 'stuxnet', and likewise far away from the pwning site and long after the fact of.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99750 @ 0.00049411 = 49.2875 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: Police: Suspect who shot Aberdeen police officer in face taken into custody | Maryland News - WBAL Home ... ( http://bit.ly/1QYV2Qe )
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trinque: shinohai: somehow I'm doubtful boston's white thug population ever read anything
assbot: Multiple bomb threats reported across Massachusetts - 7News Boston WHDH-TV ... ( http://bit.ly/1YNLaKl )
trinque: shinohai: and whoops, that was maryland
trinque: I guess that look is spreading
pete_dushenski: didn't obama have some lulzy press conpherence quote after the recent california shootings (at the autistard clinic) along the lines of "these shooting are more and more frequent and we know we can't stop them but we sure wouldn't mind making them ~less frequent~"
pete_dushenski: shootings*
assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Is the new Zuckerberg fake charity an estate tax avoidance scheme? ... ( http://bit.ly/1QYXTIJ )
trinque: pete_dushenski: that guy started trying to spin a gun control narrative the day of
pete_dushenski: greenspun ?
trinque: nah, president bahamas
pete_dushenski: lol o well that's sorta his job
pete_dushenski: maintain monopoly on force so that the state may have some hope of social relevance
pete_dushenski: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/11/keyboard-lossage-mouse-lossage-everything-is-terrible/ << i lollered when jwz comes around to admitting that 'everything was fine until i upgraded to mac osx 10.11 (el capitain)'
assbot: jwz: Keyboard lossage, mouse lossage, everything is terrible ... ( http://bit.ly/1YNMop9 )
pete_dushenski: "i just expected it to work!"
pete_dushenski: y'know, like osx did back on 10.6 and no later.
trinque: "You know, when I first switched to MacOS from Linux, the fact that I was finally using an operating system that understood that tracking the mouse was the highest priority thing and that you could never, ever let that fall behind was one of the most refreshing things." << wtf kind of idiocy is this?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55760 @ 0.00050011 = 27.8861 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: if you want a realtime and preemptable kernel go have it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14722 @ 0.00050012 = 7.3628 BTC [+]
trinque: as I understand it these preemption systems incur a great deal of additional complexity, and some wise folks might say keeping *that* to a minimum is of the greatest importance.
mircea_popescu: <trinque> shinohai: somehow I'm doubtful boston's white thug population ever read anything <
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 148300 @ 0.00050822 = 75.369 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: 42 results for 'jwz' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=jwz
phf: on a console you want operator issued commands to have priority over everything else, i don't think this has anything to do with the kernel. there was a set of patches for linux that gave scheduling priority to x11, and generally was supposed to make system much more responsive from operator side of things. guy quit over "giant co server needs decide what goes into kernel, i'm done"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42338 @ 0.00051017 = 21.5996 BTC [+]
phf: i'm pretty sure it's one of stan's commandments of sane computing
trinque: phf: input is handled via interrupt right?
mircea_popescu: trinque i've not yet observed the mouse cursor lagging on any system that i can recall since mice became a thing.
trinque: nor have I.
mircea_popescu: i mean.... when is a desktop ever that loaded ?
mircea_popescu: and what the everloving fuck would you do with the mouse on a server
trinque: so if the OS is handling some other interrupt, it's not going to bother with the input interrupts until after
trinque: I read this guy as saying it should drop everything and move the cursor
mircea_popescu: maybe it should drop everything and "just make it work"
phf: trinque: a combination of system calls and interrupts, but it's up to scheduler to decide what to do and when. "handling some other interrupt" is usually not the bottle neck
mircea_popescu: afaik dumbass osen (such as windoze) end up looking choppy because they handle the swap poorly and the windows manager ends up conflicted with some higher priority item on "memory" access
mircea_popescu: this shouldn't be a problem, except they're written by ustarded children, and so they expect everything all the time or else drop to the floor and cry
phf: it's usually handling millions of other interrupts, and then the scheduler needs to decide "oh there's some mouse events, maybe i should prioritize them a bit"
mircea_popescu: !up OZmaster
trinque: phf: that makes sense
mircea_popescu: phf i don'\t think this ever happened at the scheduler level.
OZmaster: hi all
mircea_popescu: it's usually the wm going "oh, i caqn't have X ? THEN I WILL WAIT WITH EVERYTHING!!1"
mircea_popescu: can't update cursor position until i have a hash of all the 50000 icons i put in that folder.
mircea_popescu: hi OZmaster
mircea_popescu: who're you ?
OZmaster: just a trader looking for some company
OZmaster: hope its not against the rules :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79120 @ 0.00051167 = 40.4833 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: ;;google bitcoin-assets rules and regulations
gribble: #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/>; Bitcoin assets attract HNIs, companies | Business ... - Samachar: <http://www.samachar.com/Bitcoin-assets-attract-HNIs-companies-pmecN9jgiii.html>; Is bitcoin legal? - CoinDesk: <http://www.coindesk.com/information/is-bitcoin-legal/>
pete_dushenski: OZmaster: waddyou trade mostly ?
mircea_popescu: "hnis" ?!
mircea_popescu: will wonders never surcease.
OZmaster: cable and BTC,,, some alts but not that many
mircea_popescu: OZmaster get a pgp key reg in the wot while at it.
pete_dushenski: ^ OZmaster
OZmaster: reading
OZmaster: cable? EUR/USD lulzzzz
kakobrekla: on bit4x?
kakobrekla: too bad
OZmaster: why?
OZmaster: i mean why too bad ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla runs bit4x.
OZmaster: oh ic
assbot: Logged on 02-12-2015 06:12:15; phf: kakobrekla: hey, uploaded log files are busted, title fetches done by assbot have extra newlines, that correspond to newlines in the title. here's affected entry ids, http://paste.lisp.org/display/163299
kakobrekla: will look into it today
phf: thanks!
OZmaster: will make sure i register kakobrekla
kakobrekla: im not twisting your arm or anything.
OZmaster: never heard of it before i wanna check it out :D
OZmaster: oh ic u run it through an app
OZmaster: very nice
mircea_popescu: if it doesn't work you can let us know here, we'll twist kako's arms over it for many years to come :D
kakobrekla puts arms in pocket
pete_dushenski: those are either giant pockets or very tiny arms
kakobrekla: virtual arms
pete_dushenski: aha like asciilifeform's shiva arms
kakobrekla: yeah, only i dont have that many.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 214764 @ 0.00049726 = 106.7935 BTC [-] {5}
pete_dushenski: next reincaration
pete_dushenski: reincarNation*
mircea_popescu: !up Presstrump
OZmaster: EUR is nice today
OZmaster: cool trades to catch
Presstrump: hehe, thanks mircea_popescu ;)
OZmaster: do you guys also mine BTC/alts?
Presstrump: OZmaster, no, they pretty much talk about how everything BTC related is a scam.
kakobrekla: is it not?
OZmaster: lulz, well cant argue much there
Presstrump: with the exception of MPEx, that is ;)
pete_dushenski: OZmaster: there's not much in the way of btc miner representation amongst the regulars here. as for alts, the folks here are more likely to short them than mine them.
mircea_popescu: most sane miners don't advertise this, either.
OZmaster: i didnt mean as advertisement was just so a question
OZmaster: mircea_popescu why u mean that they dont "advertise" it ?
mircea_popescu: yeah. just saying, if someone's claiming to be a miner, odds are they're a scammer.
OZmaster: is it dangerous to let people know one is mining?
mircea_popescu: obviously.
OZmaster: huh why?
Presstrump: alts only exist to extract BTC from n00bs
OZmaster: oh u surely mean all the cloudmining sites?
mircea_popescu: mno, i mean actual miners.
OZmaster: how could they "use" the term miner to scam something:S i'm totaly not folowing now
mircea_popescu: ok, lets see if we can make sense of this.
mircea_popescu: 1. miners are key points of the bitcoin infrastructure. unlike traditional infrastructure such as the hoover dam or the pentagon, the miners do not have to be physically discernible.
mircea_popescu: the same exact incentives exist to attack all of these. consequently, there exists exactly no incentive for a miner to advertise ; and strong incentive not to.
OZmaster: oh ic ic
mircea_popescu: 2. conversely, all confidence games are predicated on the same process : "is it called a confidence game because i'm supposed to give you my confidence ?" "no. because i give yo umine".
mircea_popescu: so... yeah. all con men start by breaking a minor taboo of this sort. the widest known is the "make money" derp, who can't cease talking about how much money he made bla bla.
mircea_popescu: has he ? besides the fucking point. talking about how much you make is his way of getting under your skin.
OZmaster: i see what u mean now
pete_dushenski: !up OZmaster
OZmaster: well not to mention the cloudmineing sites then, ponzis 101
OZmaster: each one ofem
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-with-pmbs-ie-perpetual-mining-bonds/ <<< exactly nothing has changed since 2012 but the name
assbot: The problem with PMBs, ie "Perpetual Mining Bonds" on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJ9qUH )
mircea_popescu: scammers still trying to sell pmbs to redditards, with mixed success.
deedbot-: [Trilema] Ever heard of Ion Iliescu ? - http://trilema.com/2015/ever-heard-of-ion-iliescu/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65500 @ 0.00051012 = 33.4129 BTC [+] {2}
OZmaster: yeh well i know they are, i got fked myself majourly by one
ben_vulpes: "As part of the Affordable Care Act, the tax is intended to help fund expanded coverage for the uninsured and to contain health care spending by discouraging employers from offering overly generous benefits." << thou shalt not enjoy life
ben_vulpes: "The so-called “Cadillac Tax” will be levied in 2018 on companies that offer the “richest” benefits."
mircea_popescu: everyone must have obamacare. EVERYONE.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: lel. "badge engineering tax"
assbot: Adele's "HELLO'' cover by DAVID JONES DAVID - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJbewZ )
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kakobrekla: "It's like pre-Sumerian civilization," says Brad Cox, who wrote the software for Steve Jobs NeXT computer and is a professor at George Mason University. "The way we build software is in the hunter-gatherer stage."
kakobrekla: John Munson, a software engineer and professor of computer science at the University of Idaho, is not quite so generous. "Cave art," he says. "It's primitive. We supposedly teach computer science. There's no science here at all."
assbot: They Write the Right Stuff ... ( http://bit.ly/1QZ9yr5 )
kakobrekla: and for mp > For one thing, 12 of the 22 people in the room are women, many of them senior managers or senior technical staff.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 17:15:37; mircea_popescu: trinque i've not yet observed the mouse cursor lagging on any system that i can recall since mice became a thing.
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 17:16:10; mircea_popescu: i mean.... when is a desktop ever that loaded ?
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 17:16:33; trinque: I read this guy as saying it should drop everything and move the cursor
assbot: Loper OS » First Law of Sane Personal Computing ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJdAfi )
assbot: Ethereum: how to build your own cryptocurrency without coding ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJdEvu )
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336448 << swap isn't much of a thing on a reasonably modern box with multiple GB of ram
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 17:17:39; mircea_popescu: afaik dumbass osen (such as windoze) end up looking choppy because they handle the swap poorly and the windows manager ends up conflicted with some higher priority item on "memory" access
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ascii_field: 'Otherwise, the hour-long meeting is sober and revealing, a brief window on the culture. For one thing, 12 of the 22 people in the room are women, many of them senior managers or senior technical staff. The on-board shuttle group, with its stability and professionalism, seems particularly appealing to women programmers.'
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ascii_field: engineering types (and financial folks even) have masturbated to the u.s. space program for generations, but the facts do not wholly support this.
ascii_field: and even to the extent that they do - the actual causes are misunderstood.
ascii_field: YES you can get mighty good results from: teenager-REMOVAL, tard-removal, jwz-removal, microshit-removal, webdev-removal.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96700 @ 0.00049305 = 47.6779 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: the successes in the software world, few as they are, are largely successes of EXTERMINATORS.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla tell you what, of all tech companies, all bitcoin companies, and all companies in general, mpex stuff has the most women involved.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> the successes in the software world, few as they are, are largely successes of EXTERMINATORS. << my view also.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 165750 @ 0.00049238 = 81.612 BTC [-] {6}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: speaking of this, i dreamed last night that i was playing a pc game called 'plague', where you are - as printed on the crate - a fella trying to escape from plague, and score points also for containing the spread thereof in various ways
ascii_field: when i woke up, thought that it would also be interesting if you could play 'as'... plague
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: oh and it turns out that i'm a moron: https://www.iqt.org/portfolio
ascii_field: and just when i thought that the snake oils couldn't get any more laughable,
ascii_field: 'PrivateEye enlists computer vision technology to actively protect computer or tablet screens against unauthorized viewers by detecting and alerting the user when an eavesdropper attempts to read the display.'
ascii_field: ( optiolabs.com )
ascii_field: 'EYES WILL ROAM, BUT YOUR SENSITIVE DATA WON’T.' << actual motherfucking quote
ascii_field: and yet moar lulzy, even,
ascii_field: 'Narrative Science is the leader in automated narrative generation for the enterprise. Powered by artificial intelligence, its Quill platform analyzes data from disparate sources, understands what is important, then automatically generates perfectly written narratives to convey meaning from the data for any intended consumer or business audience, at unlimited scale.'
ascii_field: ^ our filipinos!
ascii_field: here they are.
phf: mircea_popescu: in x11, wm is a separate process, so it should fall under usual scheduling rules. i.e. if it misbehaves, kernel will take control away from it
phf: but if kernel treats your wm same way it treats apache server...
assbot: SONITUS ... ( http://bit.ly/1m1SzaO )
liquidassets: danielpbarron can you give me spiritual reference for "god remembers" and "god forgets"
ascii_field: http://zeuss.com/our-story << u.s. tax dollarz at wurk !1111
assbot: Our Story | Zeuss ... ( http://bit.ly/1lCoPAP )
ascii_field: 'PS. If you got this far you just read 818 words that I wrote late one night after midnight with a tired jack russell passed out in my lap. Thank you for being interested in what we are doing.'
ascii_field: http://zeuss.com/zteam << compleat with chix
assbot: Team | Zeuss ... ( http://bit.ly/1lCoXjT )
phf: !up ascii_field
phf: hmm
phf: !up ascii_field
phf: ah
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> ^ our filipinos! <<< exactly like the mechanical turk of yore, the faux ai scam is still with us.
assbot: Press Release: AML Solution | Narrative Science ... ( http://bit.ly/1lCpBOu )
ascii_field: they peddle automated idiot usgistic boilerplate...
mircea_popescu: and who the fuck is jack russell
mircea_popescu: o don't tell me, let me guess. the guy's caniche
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it may be a dog
mircea_popescu: if only the soviets had "technological innovators" such as these
mircea_popescu: oh wait.
mircea_popescu: they did.
mircea_popescu: "CHICAGO, IL – November 10, 2015 – Narrative Science, the leader in advanced natural language generation for the enterprise, today announced the launch of Quill for Anti-Money Laundering (AML). According to recent research from KPMG, spending in North America to combat money-laundering activities has risen by 71 percent over the past three years and is predicted to keep increasing."
mircea_popescu: lost in all of this bathwater, any actual money to wash. the us is about as poor as argentina.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, hay mas futuro.
ascii_field: recall that to the 'aml' folks, ~all~ money is american
mircea_popescu: except they don't have any.
ascii_field: the thieves' hands are of finite-length, yes. appetites - no.
mircea_popescu: all the appetites in the world and five bitcets will buy them a cup of coffee
mircea_popescu: if the shop's open.
ascii_field: the idea was, nominally, appetite + bitcents + wunderwaffen
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mircea_popescu is looking forward to when congress finally buys some "quill" to keep up with the "ever increasing needs" of the legislative process.
mircea_popescu: a century of laws nobody read has really been long enough. time for laws nobody actually wrote.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18520 @ 0.00049472 = 9.1622 BTC [+]
liquidassets: MP where's your quote on what a 'walk of shame' is?
liquidassets: I need to get better at this searching thing...apologies
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336604 << could you be more specific? there are many such references
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 19:42:30; liquidassets: danielpbarron can you give me spiritual reference for "god remembers" and "god forgets"
mircea_popescu: !s walk of shame from:mircea
assbot: 0 results for 'walk of shame from:mircea' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=walk+of+shame+from%3Amircea
mircea_popescu: apparently, nowhere.
liquidassets: danielpbarron you seem to quote the bible frequently, is this because you know it so well? or is there an easy reference/tool to use
liquidassets: NO MP you said it about shame being a personal thing like guilt..or something. About the girl walking down the street feeling shame or not..
danielpbarron: a little of both. In order to use the easy reference I had to already have intimate knowledge of the text
danielpbarron: i search on biblegateway sometimes for key words, although i don't like to actually link to that site since it's javascript nightmare garbage
danielpbarron: and sometimes i do a google search for site:atruechurch.info whatever_keyword
liquidassets: ugh....how do we save these texts...?
mircea_popescu: "It’s hard to overstate how bad an idea it is for a compiler to use strange heuristics about code structure to guess the developer’s intent."
mircea_popescu: nigga...say wut ?
mircea_popescu: this is ALL the compiler ever fucking does, are you kidding me ?
liquidassets: that's why I need a link god dammit
mircea_popescu: this "we labeled this function comprehension so now the program is comprehending" thing goes to the fucking core of things, it's like the only wife computer dorks ever had huh.
thestringpuller: buddy of mine who isn't into bitcoin (but is into crypto) said this: hat's why I worry about "widespread bitcoin adoption" - read that as: banks/govs hijack
liquidassets: I'm searching you
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336372 << kinda why I can't really bring myself to study C/C++
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 14:58:26; asciilifeform: but compiler optimization retardation is not limited to the effects described therein
liquidassets: thank you danielpbarron I haven't tried searching the bible but hopefully 12 years of vacation bible school are still good for something
punkman: especially this part, "Volatile is of very limited usefulness on a machine that is out-of-order, multiprocessor, or both", SO WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE BOTHER
thestringpuller: volatile keyword was very useful for interrupts on the Gameboy Advance
thestringpuller: that's about my extent of use
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punkman: "Old gcc upgrade: Bug fixes, some speed, some intrinsics. New gcc upgrade: I AM THE LORD THY GCC AND I WILL BREAK YOUR SYSTEM. FEAR MY WRATH."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110600 @ 0.00049968 = 55.2646 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336635 << yer too late, we have this already. except it's armies of intern gurlz, vs. shanninizers (gurlz are cheaper)
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 19:56:04; mircea_popescu: a century of laws nobody read has really been long enough. time for laws nobody actually wrote.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336661 << 'cause you can't implement the os without ?
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 20:07:17; punkman: especially this part, "Volatile is of very limited usefulness on a machine that is out-of-order, multiprocessor, or both", SO WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE BOTHER
punkman: sad turtles all the way down
ascii_field: liquishit all the way down.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> we have this already. except it's armies of intern gurlz, vs. shanninizers (gurlz are cheaper) <<< you recall, i actually published the minutes of how this goes.
mircea_popescu: ;;google Daphna Waxman
gribble: SEC.gov | SEC Charges Three Firms With Violating Custody Rule: <http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370540098359>; SEC Knocks on MPEx's Door, Popescu Doesn't Budge | Finance ...: <http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/exchange/sec-knocks-on-mpexs-door-popescu-doesnt-budge/>; SEC gets on the Bitcoin investigation bandwagon ... - Washington Post: (1 more message)
ascii_field: ah, them
mircea_popescu: awww, look at her! intern gurl hired to get people to talk to the phone people at her office, is now internets famous!Q
ascii_field: the ones i was thinking of were the nameless chix who crapped out 'obamacare', which fills a book case, and similar
ascii_field: by hand, in microshit 'word'
mircea_popescu: there's no difference.
ascii_field: not really, aha
mircea_popescu: this one'd be equally nameless, if i weren't here to break the inane anon-government convention
mircea_popescu: (have you ever noticed that nobody ever fucking publishes the names of the agentura ? if say a police officer is ever NAMED he's either in a fringe local paper in a red state or else accused of something. it's never "the swat team, composed of x y z and k" or so forth. )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00049999 = 2.125 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95620 @ 0.0005015 = 47.9534 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: No Such lAbs (S.NSA), November 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJzpeM )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61770 @ 0.00050559 = 31.2303 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109340 @ 0.00050622 = 55.3501 BTC [+] {3}
deedbot-: [Trilema] No Such lAbs (S.NSA), November 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-november-2015-statement/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43064 @ 0.00050557 = 21.7719 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 345778 @ 0.00049065 = 169.656 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5322 @ 0.00048728 = 2.5933 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ascii_field "At some point I may do a similar surgical extraction for GPG 1.4.10’s entropy gatherer, but this is a very different project." << i have nfi why you'd be including "software entropy generators".
mircea_popescu: (Sometimes I think that perhaps one of the best things I could do with my life is: find a gigantic pile of proprietary software that was a trade secret, and start handing out copies on a street corner so it wouldn't be a trade secret any more, and perhaps that would be a much more efficient way for me to give people new free software than actually writing it myself; but everyone is too cowardly to even take it.)
mircea_popescu: start reading rms' side of the "how i [didn't really] invent emacs" for the lulz, stay for the glory.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117217 @ 0.00048642 = 57.0167 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: The History of the GNU General Public License ... ( http://bit.ly/1lggkfi )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73388 @ 0.00048909 = 35.8933 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 247371 @ 0.00048613 = 120.2545 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.0004835 = 19.9686 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Chess grandmaster from Shrewsbury allegedly paid young son to drink wine : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1XHiwxz )
BingoBoingo: Win >> "Catlett said police have been unable to reach him since the charges were filed Monday."
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 386738 | Current Difficulty: 7.272278064254718E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 387071 | Next Difficulty In: 333 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 5 hours, 16 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85800 @ 0.00049283 = 42.2848 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52850 @ 0.0004931 = 26.0603 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00049297 = 20.2118 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52700 @ 0.00049017 = 25.832 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00049298 = 17.7473 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336701 << who said we'd be ~using~ the extracted meat ?!
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 21:56:53; mircea_popescu: ascii_field "At some point I may do a similar surgical extraction for GPG 1.4.10’s entropy gatherer, but this is a very different project." << i have nfi why you'd be including "software entropy generators".
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336685 << what next, publish 'names' of individual rats who spread the black plague ?
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 20:25:35; mircea_popescu: (have you ever noticed that nobody ever fucking publishes the names of the agentura ? if say a police officer is ever NAMED he's either in a fringe local paper in a red state or else accused of something. it's never "the swat team, composed of x y z and k" or so forth. )
asciilifeform: names only make sense for things that are distinguishable and distinct
asciilifeform: if tomorrow we learn that cockroaches have names, amongst themselves, should exterminators take roll call before spraying ?
asciilifeform: not one of these people will ever be in wot, even if he lived for a hundred years; and if by some odd chance one did, it'd be under another spam name
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 20:23:11; gribble: SEC.gov | SEC Charges Three Firms With Violating Custody Rule: <http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370540098359>; SEC Knocks on MPEx's Door, Popescu Doesn't Budge | Finance ...: <http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/exchange/sec-knocks-on-mpexs-door-popescu-doesnt-budge/>; SEC gets on the Bitcoin investigation bandwagon ... - Washington Post: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: ^ the first link actually has the names of the monkeys who participated
asciilifeform: incl. daphne whoever
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336704 << was copyrightability of softs in usa still a disputed thing when rms wrote this ?
assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 22:03:01; mircea_popescu: (Sometimes I think that perhaps one of the best things I could do with my life is: find a gigantic pile of proprietary software that was a trade secret, and start handing out copies on a street corner so it wouldn't be a trade secret any more, and perhaps that would be a much more efficient way for me to give people new free software than actually writing it myself; but everyone is too cowardly to ev
ben_vulpes applauds nsa missive
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asciilifeform bday today. old.
asciilifeform: static void
asciilifeform: stronger_key_check ( RSA_secret_key *skey )
asciilifeform: guess where.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00049325 = 17.3624 BTC [+]
punkman: gpg?
punkman: happy bday asciilifeform
mod6: happy birthday asciilifeform :]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63791 @ 0.00048131 = 30.7032 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00047983 = 13.4112 BTC [-]
PeterL: Had baby #4 today.
mod6: congrats PeterL
PeterL: thanks
asciilifeform: thx mod6 !
asciilifeform: congrats PeterL
PeterL: and happy b-day to you. I guess it is a good day for a birthday
asciilifeform: moar lulz:
asciilifeform: * a level of 0 this will not block and might not return anything
asciilifeform: * with some entropy drivers, however the rndlinux driver will use
asciilifeform: * /dev/urandom and return some stuff - Do not read to much as we
asciilifeform: * want to be friendly to the scare system entropy resource. */
PeterL: what's this from?
asciilifeform: gpg 1.4.10
PeterL: what is it going to do with the entropy it creates?
asciilifeform: (and a few other things)
PeterL: does using "to" instead of "too" indicate something about the level of competence going into this?
asciilifeform: PeterL: iirc current maintainer is a german
PeterL: aha
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1988
mircea_popescu: but the important point is, "too cowardly to take them".
mircea_popescu: these are the same people who collectively opted not to give gates dailyt whirlies when he started with HIS whiny bullshit (also in the 80s)
mircea_popescu: these are the same people reacting to some "company" saying something vague AS IF IT MATTERED.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00048015 = 8.7387 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Happy bday to alf and happy birthing day to peterl
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha that part made 0 sense
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and the infamous gates 'letter to hobbyists' was in '76
PeterL: ty BingoBoingo
PeterL: http://trilema.com/2015/the-pgp-w-mode/ << encrypter and decrypter are required to use the same file? how do you know which file to use?
assbot: The PGP -w mode on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PUEQz6 )
mircea_popescu: alright, 76.
asciilifeform: PeterL: stego is a symmetric thing
asciilifeform: (afaik publickeyization of stego is an unsolved megapr0bl3m)
PeterL: so wouldn't the enemy just need to know which file you are using, and then it is worthless?
asciilifeform: PeterL: stego is not a substitute for crypto, but is 'part of a balanced diet'
PeterL: aha
PeterL: then does it need to be part of pgp?
asciilifeform: not imho
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35201 @ 0.00049385 = 17.384 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: PeterL the only way otp works is with prior agreement. as alf says, there's no known alternative ot this.
assbot: Logged on 05-12-2015 03:55:50; mircea_popescu: but the important point is, "too cowardly to take them".
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 02:05:20; asciilifeform: (freedos folks make a show of refusing to look at it)
mircea_popescu: now, you can in practice have "prior agreement after the fact", to use the consecrated legal concept (ie, if someone tells you what to use after you got the file, but you "know" it's right because it decrypts to something meaningful). but this doesn't seem much of a variation.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the hooks to use the tool any way you might want is a part of a well designed tool. this is why a hammer comes with the hook at the other end for pulling out nails, even for hammers you buy to only hurt your fingers with.
mircea_popescu: the spec accounts for this, that there should be a hook there. otherwise i fully expect most people will just use the standard dictionary if they ever use the mode at all.
asciilifeform: with anything like genuine otp, the 'prior after the fact' is really 'after the fact' plain and simple,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah.
asciilifeform: given as the choice of pad can give you any plaintext you want.
asciilifeform: (up to length of ciphertext)
BingoBoingo awaits magic future/past where electronics contact cleaner can be used on energized devices.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: clean with 'fluorinert'
asciilifeform: then light up a benjie cigar.
asciilifeform: full of human caviar.
BingoBoingo: Some day
BingoBoingo just sprayed a bunch of isohexane at car radio
BingoBoingo: about to go outside again for round 2
mircea_popescu: what are you trying to accomplish ?
asciilifeform pictures BingoBoingo removing entrails of dead weasel from cassette slot
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2015#1336798 << in the olden days, prior to mechanical cryptoanalysis, thinking folk got pretty far with 'book cipher'
assbot: Logged on 05-12-2015 04:25:09; mircea_popescu: the spec accounts for this, that there should be a hook there. otherwise i fully expect most people will just use the standard dictionary if they ever use the mode at all.
asciilifeform: james randi almost got nailed for $1M by using this in modern times
assbot: Matt Blaze: James Randi owes me a million dollars ... ( http://bit.ly/1N2e8AW )
mircea_popescu: i dun recall that one ?
asciilifeform: ^ linked
mircea_popescu: After staring at this commitment string for a little while, we suspected (or, if you prefer, we had a divine inspiration) that the first 10 digits might represent the ISBN number of a published book.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha ouch
asciilifeform: see also the infamous 'ceiiinosssttuv' incident.
asciilifeform: (re: pre-mechanical crypto)
mircea_popescu: i can';t fucking believe randi actually went with homebrew crypto\
mircea_popescu: jesus christ how fucking unskeptical, anti-scientific must one be.
mircea_popescu: see alfie, there is no hope for mankind.
asciilifeform: mebbe he's a runaway
asciilifeform: from 1790
asciilifeform: or such.
mircea_popescu: "nobody could have foreseen anyone else on the whole fucking planet having heard of isbn. it's just an industrial process after all!"
mircea_popescu: then we derride youths that go around in chinese made tshirts saying they're unique. but the difference would be...
mircea_popescu: wholly in favour of the youths. youth excuses a lot.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what are you trying to accomplish ? << making control buttons work again after extended exposure to cigarette smoking
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform pictures BingoBoingo removing entrails of dead weasel from cassette slot << Ghosts of cigarettes past
PeterL: maybe try acetone?
BingoBoingo: how long will it take for acetone to dry at 29F
PeterL: a couple minutes?
PeterL: or turn the car on and run the heater a bit?
BingoBoingo not taking radio apart, just spraying and waiting
BingoBoingo: disconnected battery to keep radio/clock from energizing
asciilifeform still has a circa-'80s 'tape drive cleaning' kit containing, among other items... a bottle of old-fashioned 'freon'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to be fair, he wasn't trying to encrypt, as such, but to ceiiinosssttuv.
asciilifeform: (and, apparently, had never heard of, e.g., hash algo)
PeterL: ;;isup mpex.co
gribble: mpex.co is down
BingoBoingo: ;;isup mpex.re
gribble: mpex.re is down
PeterL: ;;isup mpex.biz
gribble: mpex.biz is down
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