(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!rate la new blood
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!rate emily22 new blood
(trilema) ben_vulpes: emily22: maybe tell 'em about this thing called the wot and voice model, where someone has to vouch for you before you can waste everyone's time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably also, guys eh? "the shy gender"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: well link it or will that get you excommunicated?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: perhaps give the good readers a place at which to start?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: fixed, ty. i'll get to the multiple-links thing later
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pfff
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thx
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: why so it should
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha, yw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (mircea_popescu: "fromsearch" is live on my loggotron)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: makes sense
(trilema) ben_vulpes: another delightful play date with little georgie open soros
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > Fix .asd files so they work well with ASDF 3.3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other news, i think that fare broke the "simple-date" behavior in the cl "postmodern" postgresql client library
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i suppose the thing to do is invoice once with a link to the deeded linen items
(trilema) ben_vulpes: spam over, thank you for your patience
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v 8A2623E1A3F6A1A287AC79772D9EC3A3CE84FE941CE8A9FB81983BEA9693E573
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!invoice lobbes .00067742 pro-rated march shared hosting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v 678DCA5FB9BE021DB7EDF4FB2EBD286217B0F68264E04268BF7FE9D397FEB902
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!invoice hanbot .00067742 pro-rated march shared hosting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v 0D700B85EA72DF84CC0400E6947C3662D752AB337F7875B6E030916ADAB4E39F
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!invoice trinque 0.11985394 server couriering
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v E132D04C2B6FCB8A9BC5736A369297E0EE4E6533B6DB58FBCAC78A2E571790A5
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!invoice trinque 0.00890489 pro-rated march hosting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: please approve ^^ and ping teh treasurer for payment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: terf hate speech: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/BgIgH/?raw=true
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v 4C51729188CF3C233EEAAE49E8F66A24285DBFE0B9F0BADEBC50679C0830FC7B
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!pay asciilifeform 0.50046596
(trilema) ben_vulpes: roger
(trilema) ben_vulpes: both of which are irksome, yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no from op, implicit quotes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have two bots
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!key danielpbarron
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v D36B2DA16801DD29974345218BE070ADF8EF027B47EF75F04DC3F8D6457F9B5E
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!invoice danielpbarron .00077419 8 prorated days of shared hosting (march)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well once we have hanbot up and running with an mp-wp produced from her patches i'll move this over to that setup
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aaayup
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aight well i switched it back for now but that's awful and will have to get fixed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i did not realize that previously published permalinks would break when switching to the slug
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ack
(trilema) ben_vulpes: utterly no idea
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because i'm fuckin dying over here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you know i think this is actually a devious plot to murder elements of the lordship with excessive laughter
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with the fucking tattling, epic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahahahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: having the discipline to engage with trilema appropriately is not a thing humans are born with
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: how you allocate your attention is your own problem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v 9857F1824DD54DAF9F74912FDBA5A634C63861F5E7F0EC7A35EE94628AB622DC
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why continue with the posturing instead of doing things
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and what you were also told to do?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: isn't that what you promised to do already?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!rate douchebag -1 polished turd of stupidity
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the cheek!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: it's only an ordeal because you dig your heels in when told what to do.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: you then moved on to testing other bots; do those commands also not work in pm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: negrate him and be done with it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: he's trying to ape the forms without understanding their logic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is the sort of place where mircea_popescu kickbans people who join/part too much
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: there's a thing called "signal to noise ratio", do try not to hurt it. if you must test in public probably announce and apologize for the interruption
(trilema) ben_vulpes: awww
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: your usuallies aren't going to serve you well here, whoever makes the rules makes the rules
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you had issue with them you shoulda brought it up then instead of just not doing anything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude because those were the terms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: did he ever actually deed the agreement?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: what did you try to deed there?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: going to nail down pricing for shells on this machine and then we can provision them, i expect that we can get hanbot a shell tomorrow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll look into this unordered sets thing later
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh oh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well yes i did find the error message but i am still banging my head on the why of it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v 5ED3EC02EC8E0E2CD0B44A6AB9D3AE484D24C2FEA7F2F0A5929655D4D385E33F
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!rate douchebag 1 found a couple of unsanitized fields
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you know anything about this data struct / can't have 2 outputs pointing to the same addr in a transaction mircea_popescu mentioned?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kidding, but an understandable confusion
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so is the kink shaming!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: amazingly, rtfm only shows up in logs 41 times
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's childish
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: stop being a bigot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh yeah im supposed to be upset at the bigotry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or read the fucking help page omfg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'd have settled for a plausible story of social engineering
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll take a clue if you have one handy
(trilema) ben_vulpes thinks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh for the motherloving fuck hole of sin trb won't sendmany with two outputs to the same address
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: how long do you figure this'll take?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if trinque likes you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fucking duh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unlike the rest of the world i hold myself to the standard i hold it to
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: you just don't read do you http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-22#317661
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, we'd argue with your sending btc to yourself?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: threat model etc, like a Real Professional?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: gonna explain, per request, or continue faffing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm clearly just an amateur, but an advanced security consultant like yourself should have no troubles explaining it to a civvy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: what is the concept again that you have proven? i am still waiting for the explanation of what precisely this social engineering attack does.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ho ho ho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or do i not understand how fake content works, because actually i'm certain that i don't understand what this gpg-signed fake content is.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: consumers know not to trust websites without the magic green thingy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: but it doesn't have the ssl lock
(trilema) ben_vulpes: funny how the twenty year old is fixated on growing up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm going to need three rail cars of sugar and a fuckton of smallish pvc tubes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: i want northern california
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is this like fake news?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: WHANGGGGGGGGGG
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aaahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but trinque what if someone visits a deedbot page and their browser executes it!?!?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't much give a shit, take some initiative and do something?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: many of these work in pm douchebag
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's !!v douchebag
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: don't tell me you lost your key
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mighta been asking an infantryman to fly a helicopter, who knows
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm a softie what can i say
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: you can voice yourself you know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: guten tag, trinque !
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!reputation douchebag
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh and other obvious pentesting targets douchebag: qrrqobg jnyyrg (rot13)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: credit where credit is due, douchebag went from http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1777226 to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-22#1788527 (albeit a stealth admission of personal shortcomings) but contextual lulz of the week go to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-22#1788529
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh and twist, douchebag skip the responsible disclosure fingertrap and fuck 'em hard.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes: you should see the girls; i swear the only ones who aren't wholly corrupted by the anxiety machine are the 1st-generation ethnic imports who take care of my kid
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although i suppose it comes with a decade of 'security community' baggage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: im kinda surprised to see the indoctrination so thick in a twenty year old
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the holding company?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's ancient and incorrect apocrypha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: s/fuckyou/for your benefit, dear customer/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes: i think it'll be great; will push everyone on the box to standardize on known-ok package versions. "we support weechat 1.4 and fuckyou"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was more interested in the adults with beer and teenaged girls
(trilema) ben_vulpes: last time i was in england i was like 14
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not even japan with the traditional every-30-year rebuild of housing stock?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh oh okay
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, walls in highdensity apartment building also wasteful of square footage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's been some time since i gave a shit but the 'docker' folks were very proud of the resource sharing that linus wrote for them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does the 'cgroups' 'containerization' sharedhosting approach waste the same amount?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 60%!?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yo trinque can i get you to opine on http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-22#317403 please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh, this'll turn into our bitbet moderation cost center without care
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: tru tru; what objections would you field to sharing a host with l2?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !~later tell hanbot drop by #pizarro sometime soon and opine re http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-22#317360 please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: doing things correctly also implies knowing what hairballs of stupid to cut off and not consider.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah i care quite deeply about folks clicking links with b58 encoded piles of trash in the url
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why bother fucking if your dick's going to pop out?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bit of a nonsensical question
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man i can't even find the juice to beat this kind of thinking into the heads of people at $work; they gotta come preconfigured for utility
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not to insult your trade, but to try and hammer home the paradigms you're missing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: until you wrap your head around what goes on here, you're going to be fighting this negative impression where you insist that you're smart and educated etc, just...not in any topics that anyone here cares about eg trb as a basis for murdering the megastate and all barnacles like ecommerce/ssl/securitycircus hanging off the side
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought this was too obvious to point out, did not want to further insult douchebag's intelligence
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: if you cannot read through thebitcoin.foundation website and get to trb i do not know what future there is for you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also i don't give one watt of credence to this 'no time' thing; i've read logs daily for what, four years? started and sold out of a company, had more than one 'job' at points, manage a family and still keep up and contribute
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no fucking way anyone's going to try to enumerate the holes in your education
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: you did just get a link to trb
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: haw haw haw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: see dude this is why i can't take you seriously, you have zero context for what's going on here and yet you insist on strutting around as though you matter
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this "all hobbies are equally valid" thing ain't gonna carry water fwiw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you did come here and ask for guidance, lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh baby don't take it personally, sit with the discomfort for an hour and figure out the root of it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: do you understand why it's uninteresting to this particular group of terrorists?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure does not look like he's putting any time into figuring out why nobody cares about his boy scout badges.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: webshit is just uninteresting, like mcdonalds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: i dunno man, i'm going to weary of picking things for you in short order but maybe try to sidechannel the mpi lib?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: musta been jarring
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: you realize you're "telling and not showing" and that nobody cares about your fiatland sekyooridee credentialing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in unrelated "mouths of babes", "what's daddy doing? having a penis?" "every day, kiddo"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: well it's what it looks like from here, take the ad hominem and show me it's wrong yeah?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yessir
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll get you an eta mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: working with asciilifeform to vpsify the idle box now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: your own research targets in which case you're a man and can make your own decisions or you need orders and will be told what to do. picking your own targets is an act of *creativity*, which i muchly doubt i'll see much of from a metasploit crank-puller. as it stands i don't really expect you to do anything but it's a low bar and a single task to show me wrong.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-22#317063 << you showed up, said 'help, what do i do', and i said 'go, son, and this thing.' it's a severalfold test: can you wrap your head around the concepts in v? can you take orders when you ask for them? it's a layered pile of crash course in not flunking out of the republic. in re 'what am i expected to do', look either you eventually grow up and start picking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm going to hand crank ^^ for now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "queen of the south" album cover bears a striking resemblance to pussy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !~ticker --market all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: node that mimisbrunnr is attached to is wedged in an interesting state, going to see about a dump with gdb tomorrow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "paranoid-schizophrenic commits suicide by robocar"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-20#1788295 << yeah, first time in...weeks? i've seen it lag
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/2018/02/pizarro-statement-february-2018 updated, and mircea_popescu your last comment very belatedly replied to
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah found it, gotta use the RED box
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i could have sworn it was there quite recently
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does archive.is not have a button for "no seriously re-archive right now"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neato lobbes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: chasing grams; final weigh-in was 99 lbs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i could have called this out more explicitly, sorry. i unpacked nearly everything but the ram from the machines on the way to installation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i didn't bring the machine up with the FGs out of oversight. BingoBoingo is walking downstairs to install them now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah i found it, thanks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes: any idea what http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/07kIk/?raw=true is all about?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: other infrastructure failures http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/out-of-control-ski-lift-sends-people-flying-article-1.3878766
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sounds serious
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: how'd you end up in the hospital?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, i just finished "blitzed! drugs in the third reich" while working through hart's history of the second world war. contrast between the two books is...strong.
(trilema) ben_vulpes wonders if that was gabe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pls no more clim
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty seen_Xemist
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up seen_Xemist
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: can ya fix voice in #pizarro? asciilifeform reports cannot send to channel
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was the thrust of your comment that the net change column should see a value of 11? decimals aside i don't understand what you were driving at with that comment.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (in reference to the february pizarro statement and comment http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/2018/02/pizarro-statement-february-2018/comment-page-1/#comment-24 )
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: in your AN0 document, you say that shareholder equity is the difference between the sum of assets and other liabilities, but when i tot that up i get the 11.9etc, and not the 11 that your comment mentions. naively, that's the equity that the shareholders put in, but i'm struggling to reconcile that with an0 liabilities bullet #2
(trilema) ben_vulpes: interestingly, drives bolted to trays were effectively untaxed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: net tax on the miserably small pile that was actually declared ran in the 45% range
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tis more or less what i had, but inapplicable to a bag of parts. the three new-in-box drives plus the expediter's fee plus a honking pile of taxesnfees-that-aren't-IVA was the bulk of the bill.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: expensive lesson
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps i'll have the opportunity to run the experiment some day and we can see
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can get them to bottom out just beyond the cracking distance!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now see that's a job for vice grips
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they've always been my "wrong tool for every job"; i'd rather have a set of deep sockets in pretty much every situation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "llave ingles" in sudamerica
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i halfway suspect that nobody had ever looked inside that cabinet until BingoBoingo; maybe arrived from the boat preassembled even, to dimensions convenient to assemblers and not users.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think i will take the avuncular head-pat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: iirc that nugget stuck with me from a piece on five mile island i read lord only knows how long ago
(trilema) ben_vulpes: niggardly?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which in particular?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: womxn is the new word in other linguistic backflips
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://bikeportland.org/ modern variant
(trilema) ben_vulpes: complaining bitterly to any mother who might be nearby is how oregonians do everything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "deprecating" instead of "depreciating" perhaps
(trilema) ben_vulpes lattes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !~ticker --market all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotcha, thx
(trilema) ben_vulpes: p.bvulpes.com works
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pls to paste details
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you could start by looking at http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Adeedbot+http
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this falls squarely into the remit of security analysis, doesn't it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: you should be able to make a list of republic ips and start scanning boxen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "oh shit, someone slap together a responsive order page, make sure that it says russia in big letters"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: BOOOOOO
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > any website found to host or otherwise sponsor material that supports terrorism will be suspended immediately without notice
(trilema) ben_vulpes home sweet home; to sleep for two days and then reports
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!v 08E7343D2F2CEB66189E5F37187343373C35811A84A6A70BAE73A8476E6D7A26
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!rate renard_abroad 1 travel key
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!down renard_abroad
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up renard_abroad
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it gets worse, not even as fast!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also licensing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: motorbikes don't fit in the bike lockup facilities downtown
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why not take a motorcycle on the bike track for that matter
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "lithium polymer"
(trilema) ben_vulpes would like to try