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(trilema) ben_vulpes: rather nifty books
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel plz for to record some interactions with this magical realtime 3d system you've banged together
(trilema) ben_vulpes: love the fertilizer, worship the peasantry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "There were around 1,500 people in the audience — but at least 1,000 were Apple employees... At WWDC (and in years past, Macworld Expo) Moscone is filled with paid ticket holders. Having that many employees in the room changes the tenor of the audience considerably — the cheering and applause were raucous."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good morning!
(trilema) ben_vulpes resigns self to logs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (a 2.4 mile drive, i must point out)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: argh and google maps has nuked the "type anything and get directions function"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what about those roads isn't open
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i drove from my office to the heart of downtown in ten minutes today in the middle of rush hour
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right geography.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right parents.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you and alf with the gawdawful quality-of-life, i swear...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: expansive or expensive?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well that's nuts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ("it's only like 2 vintage sports cars!")
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not much i can explain to a man sinking into quicksand about the joys of hard land.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well that's your problem for living in congestion hell.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "think of how many babies we can put in it!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "baby we need a military hum-v"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whence the fork, pete_dushenski?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did your stats as well?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where did you top out in maths, pete_dushenski?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and probably worked...just fine!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quite adequate, rather nifty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh no i had one in middle school
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which 'featured' perceptible delays between keypress and screen render.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the misfortune of replacing it with the 89 'titanium'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i too had an 89
(trilema) ben_vulpes: despite having nominally progressed through the *exact same curriculum*, my 'peers' never mastered this 'one simple trick'.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269052 << i routinely aced ME tests simply by virtue of knowing basic linear algebra transformations and how to solve sets of equations with the calculator.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: that recent piece isn't half bad
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the numbers-fudging piece
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: btw that piece was invictus, not br
(trilema) ben_vulpes expects slurptxn at some indefinite point
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'can also have problems'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dijkstraized?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: and that's after i burned out like 70% of them!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're not wrong, i just hate the straightjacket of argparse's function call behavior.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shaddup trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because the way that argparse suggests you set up function calls is stupid as hell!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (as in to #b-a)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: asciilifeform objected to the "which method, which args" approach to routing around argparse's braindamage, so if you have good ideas down there throw 'em out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: i posted a tarball, as i did some messy surgery and expected brutal diffs. if you can get cleaner diffs, that'd be great.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay, i get it now stan.
(trilema) ben_vulpes is struck by a lightningbolt of understanding
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: that is the test i left off at. feel free to replace the "gotcha" assertion with an actual test, or just eliminate the assertion completely.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "always leave a failing test"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ya, one out of 16?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and then on top of that, every project i pick up has some arcane setup for running its tests, because...legacy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is a thing i do once per project and always forget how it's supposed to go.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it should run with python -m unittest from the same directory as v, but...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: nominally unittest does test discovery, i focused on making tests though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: python -m unittest test_v
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but when i want to build builtins in my rental, i use compressed air and nails.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> Interlocking cuts, glue, and clamps are the way, the truth, and the light in furniture << aye aye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did you successfully run your rotor?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the deal, VariaVarietatis?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up VariaVarietatis
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no stop i have to go do things to a girl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because vlc is too hard?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's your spamsolution, mircea_popescu?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: herr mircea_popescu has as well, you're in good company
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wait, what happened to tls cutting all of your spam to nil?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: what's happening to your smtp holes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what does 'master lisp proc' mean in this context? the lisp image you run continuously?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how's masamune progressing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "production"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: are you running Masamune in production?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: if gpg is so librarification-resistant, how have you jammed it into the cardano?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh yeah and can't make modern readers think too hard about their own versions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: primary sources ideally, first generation translations would be nice.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wild swans, i mean.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "struggle session" << anyone have any decent literature? the only thing i can recall offhand is the book White Swans.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, pete_dushenski, i'd love to talk some day when you've got something other than "lol ur handle bro" lined up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did it disconnect?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> *' experiment ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> benkay: what happened to the 'ben_vulpes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: the "experiment", i mean.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: what, did the nick disconnect while i wasn't looking?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not really how this is supposed to work.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who needs agency, when you have bad opsec?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but what about the girls' agency, danielpbarron?!!!1ONE!?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: convenient solution is available if you take the girl and her kids
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh, just pay for the children.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: specially the winblet line - that really blew my stack
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more baffled than anything some days, mats.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do you think that i hate danielpbarron?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats: why do you think i hate you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i forgot this the other day.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this car has no (zero!) robots in between me and the wheels.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: who knows what 0days lurk in the abs controller.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "if you have to ask" (tm)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm enjoying watching the bible thumper and windows enthusiast go at each other
(trilema) ben_vulpes: morning, mike_c
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266312 << eg me, who drives a car with no antilock brakes and all of the weight in the front
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1265949 << it's even better than you could possibly know, alf. the things can be had for being white, female, and taking 50k in loans out per year while studying art.
(trilema) ben_vulpes eyeskipped over 'me', is a derp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cn? hard currency?
(trilema) ben_vulpes will someday wear esrs mantle of "attached self to prominent open source project"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: omg the unrelenting stream of kitsch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aok found photos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: photos?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and just as certainly leave you complaining that things never get done unless you do them yourself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: politely telling me to take my patches and go home?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other news, i'm off to a baby shower
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahaha look at all of these python tabs i can close now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but the dream of distributed marketplaces is alive in #otc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: time to manually generate some svgs, eh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that'd be trying to break the thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: add it back into the todos :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (because the code lacks locality)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and no, i have not yet ginned up the tree-fuzzer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, i have only written 'happy path' tests.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and this is why the global state drives me up a wall. because i cannot import one of these functions from the script and then run it without setting up a global environment for it. it's difficult to reason about the code lacks locality.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but looky here. you've written a thing that more-or-less must be tested as a whole, and i'm trying to push for testing the bits.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know what it is, silly. just not the places where it's used. yet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't think i understand their use well enough to complain in detail.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've not touched the arg parsing itself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i /abhor/ functions that take the whole environment as their input arguments.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: c_wot, for instance, has no business knowing about all sorts of things in args.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and that is strictly untrue.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in all honesty, it is a relic of testing from before i had the args objects mocked out.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you mean untestable spaghetti?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eradication of global state and testability.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: `python -m unittest test_v'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i of course neglected the test incantations.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it is only of middling nifty-ness.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what are best practices with the mailing list again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so that'd be the hash of a "pressing"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha, yes I was
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: dat beetus
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ^^ from a vanilla vdemo tar, unless i'm horribly mistaken.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform `for i in $(shasum -a 512 patches/* | awk '{print $1}'); do python v.py patches o $1; done` returns "No origin found." for all patches. i've not successfully run 'origin' yet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell bingoboingo you'd appreciate the local gravity distortion in the 24-hour cafe this morning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mains-currenting his box, and so i think phuctor is in limbo for the moment.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vextor phuctor has had mains plugs pulled on it several times recenty, and alf's attitude (i believe) is that the thing shoudn't run if its going to have its memory ripped out every time it warms up. remember, it keeps the running product in memory. mircea_popescu's attitude is that "software should be less friable than the hardware upon which it runs". asciilifeform is trying to find the shitgnome responsble for
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (asciilifeform, what did your neolithic folks demonstrably have that you want but do not have?)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol simply means nature comes by and wallops population numbers once in a while
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, the hungry existed until the diseases arrived to wipe them out?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: disease also wiped out huge numbers!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: GLOBAL STATE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is it intentional that v will not list the wot without root patches?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: args.f(args) argleblarg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as a pedagogical exercise, why?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: brutal, missed that part.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you have popcorn
(trilema) ben_vulpes: d'you have a vpatch for it yet, punkman?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up lksakeye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i, for instance, no longer shit in the kitchen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's been a mutual training
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: today i didn't want to go to brunch, so lady v made me brunch before going out for her own.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but srs, "don't leave valuables in the vehicle" around these parts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262756 << in other words, the perfect pressed-shit-carbide with which to carve up httptrons
(trilema) ben_vulpes: boo, okay. ring me when you're up.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: craft a patch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: i'll bang on it with you
(trilema) ben_vulpes is not convinced that brevity is the be all and end all.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: any changes i'd make would produce higher linecounts.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: two 'clean', 'well-defined' items whose use produces code that is illegible.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the 'dsl' so produced by their use is not in any sense legible, however.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: enough with the floppy metaphors!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how is python not barbed wire?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "i'll cut stainless, but you keep that piece of shit al off my machines"
(trilema) ben_vulpes wonders what it must be like to feel so strongly about programming languages
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (or ruby...)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "fits in head" is a realistic goal with python, perl and cpp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and who's making you keep python and perl on your systems?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great, but why?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so java has an asym library, does that shell out to gpg as well?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why do we never discuss java?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as for names, well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nobody is doing anything of 'actual worth' and 'much' is such a wishy-washy term that you can set the bar arbitrarily high.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: which and why?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: people who eat manufactured food - eat manufactured food.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: leastaways that was a complaint i heard from you once.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quit bullshitting, nothing is in walking distance of your house!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there are enough reasonable sane people here to make farmers markets within walking distance of my house 4/7 days of the week financially viable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well your "here" is batshit nuts amigo.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260586 << its an obvious place for the market to be right now. gotta aggregate demand.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what the fuck is wrong with you mats
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has giant haring stickers on it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: still way fast
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have an mbp, 15", only took it out to play eulora once and a while because i got ubuntu on it waaay ways ago
(trilema) ben_vulpes: $bizpartner got the new delicate thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: things are cookies these days, granted.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great displays though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nice terms tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i dont know why anyone would treat an apple product as anything but a disposable terminal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1260219 << this sounds crazy, de veras?
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