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(trilema) ben_vulpes: (raymond again)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh we haven't done this one yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s eject sjw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh god the rounded corners and brand endorsement segment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: love love love the not taken together at all in a million years set of headshots and bios scrolling by at lightspeed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in longdong in july
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they announced their plans guise
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahahueehhueahehea
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "we develop at the source code level"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "just write the way you speak!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: terminal periods outside of parentheses please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ddos blackmail?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ^^ for mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "The neutralitie o this airticle is disputit."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: might not be cookable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, this ain't cooked yet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well i know that i own m/n of the monetary supply today, and m/n+whatever at t sub whatever in the future
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: generational cycling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes the monetary base is changing in size, but we all know to what degree.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if the market can algorithmically price inflation in though, does the notion of inflation even make sense?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sink or swim together
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how would you have designed the "securing of bitcoin-gold" differently from the current mining scheme?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: only the clojure mode.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: i believe that to be major-mode dependent. see 'backends'.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-11-25/want-to-get-richer-accept-refugees << "eat recycled food! it's good for the environment, and not that bad for you!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://ngnghm.github.io/ << more 'hoon', but with no code
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: i've gotten some decent mileage out of company-mode.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the creeping death
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this week 'tis youtube
(trilema) ben_vulpes: last week it was google maps
(trilema) ben_vulpes just witnessed apple deinstall a second google app from his phone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: disconcerting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stained the neilmed squeeze bottle yellow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: once upon a time (when i still got sick, before i brought my own disease vector into the house) i dissolved some curcumin into the saline solution
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: yup. totally sterile, the way god intended it be.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: i have *just* (as in the past week) located my wot's signal analyzer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: they come in saline-under-co2-in-a-can versions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: either way, good show chaps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or they'll do it anyways and print to cover the loss.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not until they install checkpoints anyways, and that'll cost far more than they really can spend.
(trilema) ben_vulpes doesn't see the point on domestic travel
(trilema) ben_vulpes: won't you end up in a situation a la bitcoin where the ip is encoded into the message itself?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: phf's point though is that then you're relying on state /outside/ of gossipd to run gossipd. if i understand correctly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: shows you what i know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was under the impression that a first gossip packet was a signed nonce so that the implementation could drop all subsequent packets at its convenience.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the continued accretion of fiscal crises across these governments should be expected to continue..."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: support for a clock
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "We will deliver the first batch of Tixies early 2016 with dedicated support."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: leastaways for now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes is almost entirely insulated from the race wars
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also a hilarious thing, "mexican supremacists"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: propaganda dept does not have their shit together
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: "hispanics"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: free tuition
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and an extremely small cost in the grand scheme of things.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they are welded in at birth
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because one cannot put ones own storage in the machine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what an inane pricing exercise
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh wait dig it you can get a whole 1.5 tb for A WHOLE GRAND
(trilema) ben_vulpes idly pulls up the apple checkout flow in a text only browser, laughs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: storage was configurable at one point, but apparently no longer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 512 gb for another 500 usd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: current base 'pro' model ships with 128 gb unreplaceable persistent storage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what you don't have it already?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the new trackpads are impressive, though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i would like to not have to use portable boxes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: enough hot air to float a vax
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the atomic dirigible
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: isn't it a marvelous thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: want to plug in device and charge at the same time?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: THERE IS ONE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh and surely i've bitched about the hilarious external port layout of the most current model
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: cannot even replace persistent storage devices in 'crapple' portables of late
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but $shop uses macs to deploy software on macware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't have one because of that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so trivially miserable
(trilema) ben_vulpes: isn't it a delightful little hell?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what a blessing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's just too much for my puny frame
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the macbook is too heavy to press, it's not like an air or anything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: made of chairs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my fate is horrendous cobbled-together towers of abstractions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no man you don't understand
(trilema) ben_vulpes: el capitan quest, day three: os x still refuses to upgrade xcode 6 to xcode 7.1, a prerequisite for el capitan (or is it the other way around? once i run all of these permutations i'll have to check that set).
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not let's panic about babies, but masshuge
(trilema) ben_vulpes: /the/ good book
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: that is a good book
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: from "let's panic about babies", according to the girl.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mostly already is, in the sense that the "police" forces are only nominally public entities in that part of the country.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: NOTHING IS FINE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's...a lot of people?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: grindr's really that central to the pickup scene /there/?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-11-2015#1329975 << this was almost a thing, but then sane heads prevailed and the innards were never coated against water penetration so that the phones would still break when dropped onto damp pants
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i kid, i kid.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: SOUNDS A LOT LIKE WRITING SOFTWARE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what does it mean then.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apparently not!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i meant abstraction in the sense of software that composes small tools into larger units that...operate at a higher level of abstraction.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because a corpus through which one can grep exists, the forum can on an ongoing basis can communicate ever more abstractly?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is there some russian joke in there about how the bits that are cut are never the relevant ones?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: speaking without cuts then means to communicate intelligibly even without the bits that the censors stripped?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i might begin to be understanding
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tres annoying to pass the same args around constantly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in re fp, dunno that anyone noticed, but i backpedaled from the global state fatwa in my v poc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: без купюр?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: teaching OOP with models that "reflect the real world" instead of the programming environment is bad pedagogy and does a massive disservice to anyone who endures it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ganbatte, panzer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the sobriety kick if still in effect has been good lulz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: gprs nice
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the plane is now unflyable, so in the sense that its value was "one returned crew, maybe" its value is now "not likely a returned crew".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or amortization schedule?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the net cost of that one incident?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is this one of the birds nominally intended to replace the warthog?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a smaller example: some high performance gliders will tear themselves apart if they go too fast, pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have no idea where it came up with the notion i found it on twitter
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "will depreciate...to accomodate for loss of life", sorry, not following. as though i were 5?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: given that the ejector seats are to save the staff at the expense of hardware.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how are you going to lose the crew and not the plane, praytell
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, you can do it, and yes the car will survive. how many hours did you take off of its life, however?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: exceeding stress limits is akin to holding the tach in the red for an extended period of time.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now if the envelope is retardedly small, that's a different problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: exceeding the envelope is bad.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is actually a thing with planes, pete_dushenski.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the question to ask is "can oncologists beat a coin toss?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, but random selection.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which should be entirely unsurprising, as most doctors i've met can't do odds for poker in their heads much less the odds for human ailments.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no better than random selection, really.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "to improve the quality of care!" mno. to increase the cost of care.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: re: "ed", a nurse was over last night, lamenting the shift from "emergency room, you know, a big room with sheets, "emergency department" with individually nicely fitted out, warm rooms with room service that someone other than $invalid is paying for"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: necessary for scansion
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the internet is for moms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moms moms moms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the internet is for moms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the internet is for moms
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "ah, we'll fix it tomorrow."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not scavenger culture, it's webdev culture.
(trilema) ben_vulpes imagines what it must be like to go from software to safety-critical hardware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no lizard hitler in that interpretation, punkman
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu << lol it tab completes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kakobrekla is pope, mircea_popescu is god, cult transformation is complete
(trilema) ben_vulpes is appropriately shamefaced
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah, i thought you meant the jpegs were some simple transform from ccd to jpeg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when you say 'latter' do you mean the raw or the jpeg produced by the camera?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought bitwise dumps went out forever ago.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you not use paredit?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: subject of newtardation, is smartparens vile or am i doing it wrong?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fed and bored, for one.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is a local in the corner selling finely sculpted figurines of knuth that appear to be made of poop
(trilema) ben_vulpes has wandered into a 'temple', most of the gems are missing and the walls are covered in graffiti
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some gevent bullcrap iirc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i found a "webserver" recently whose instantiation blocked the REPL.
(trilema) ben_vulpes is seeing the rot in webtech takeover of cl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i, like the fool i am, retain hope of putting lispy gui crud places, and so would rather burn the time hacking through mcclim than running the symbolics vms.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you call it masturbation, i call it a dalliance with what might have been.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: climacs sort of works. beirc is one of those 'look i wrote a thing in clim and oop now i'm working for someone else and have no time to maintain it'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not yet, not likely soon.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on the lisp ui thread, a mcclim contributor of yore has started work on clim3, spec and impl: climatis: https://github.com/robert-strandh/CLIMatis
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski clever turn with "black organics"
(trilema) ben_vulpes waves to vexual
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what was mr brown engaged in that required a nailfun deployment?
(trilema) ben_vulpes wonders if this is another of those b64-in-gpg-message-things
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;isup gmane.org
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-11-2015#1325817 << "disruption" is mean and not allowed in shartuplandia any longer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which iirc predates bitcoin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not to be confused with the "hubculture" "ven"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how do you figure?
(trilema) ben_vulpes looks around for a box with 4gb of ram
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a search engine of our own would be nice.
(trilema) ben_vulpes would be happy to see it burn
(trilema) ben_vulpes did not make this would
(trilema) ben_vulpes: to which the "industry standard solution" is to render relevant bits of the site down into static html.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now in more tales from the trenches, people buy one of these jsapps and the "oh no my seo"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: never said it couldn't!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: btcalpha too, if i recall correctly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doesn't *have* to.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if not completely static, at the very least no js.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's an exceptionally useful demarcation. "web tech", js and rounded corners for the bezzletron, static html for tmsr~.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: works shmerkz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the engineering constraint is not "webshites that mircea_popescu can use" but "velocity at which bezzlebuxx are burned"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that thing where there are no "web pages" on the thing, just a dynamically generated xml tree that the browser renders and rerenders in response to user input.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_field: aha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and it's not just "misc" constraints, it's MUST LOOK GOOD AT ALL PROPORTIONS WHILE CLIENT RESIZES BROWSER WINDOW
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if one must swim in js soup, and spin 'food' from refined corn so to speak, there are worse protective suits than the jsapp.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i...did not know that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: leakin again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bezzle tools for bezzle plays.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "thirdy"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "not deploying giant militaries to bomb targets and wave banners, or propping up regimes and helping them "suppress insurgencies," but working on the long-term realities of helping locals build a government that they're invested in" << not that anyone is capable of doing this any ore
(trilema) ben_vulpes is still planning to scrape metals off the seafloor
(trilema) ben_vulpes: death of new manufacture.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sad perspective, mircea_popescu.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell naphex http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=14-11-2015#1323389 << yo where does xotika's design land in the context of this conversation?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: except that mandating use of specific materials seems to specifically exclude it from being called piece work.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol asciilifeform share the lyrics for that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: may he go from risk to risk
(trilema) ben_vulpes: faaast asleep, and yours?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hola pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu's "street" for programmers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the web is always there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "phone ringing off hook"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "gonna starve"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotta love how quickly this guy goes from
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 your auto reconnect a) doesn't auth b) leaks your ip
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whatever, pennies for paupers and britni
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