ben_vulpes: hm
ben_vulpes: also i suppose polarbeard?
ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000201.html << press genesis_fixed, tinyscheme_snip, repl_fix, rename tinyscheme to shiva, recompile yes? asciilifeform phf ^^
ben_vulpes: tinyscheme still needs renaming to shiva, correct?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: d'you have a minute to answer shiva questions?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: all parts will likely need scavenging into existence
ben_vulpes wouldn't know, not particularly well versed
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: predator?
ben_vulpes: but i'd hope to only use that for bootstrapping.
ben_vulpes: (skin as frame)
ben_vulpes: is waterproof by construction
ben_vulpes: the linked dome has an astonishingly low part number, and readily available feedstock.
ben_vulpes: shortwave for the blockchain, solar panels for time-arbitraged electricity, hole of car batteries for storage
ben_vulpes: http://rigsomelight.com/assets/images/dome.jpg << illustrating, again
ben_vulpes: but yes, i would rather live in bootstrapped country squalor in plastic domes than most us cities.
ben_vulpes: "also wouldja re-zip-tie that vagrant that tried to get in last night, bob won't be by with the export wagon for another 2 days"
ben_vulpes: pashtun << not so much ethnic as "don't talk to cops. seriously, don't fucking talk to cops. furthermore, beat up anyone you see talking to cops."
ben_vulpes: lolclown
ben_vulpes: yeesh that's quite a face
ben_vulpes: yes, which mysteries?
ben_vulpes: healthy dose of evangelicals too. broad political spectrum united almost solely by 'no fucking way'.
ben_vulpes: parents who know certain subjects teach those. parents with large houses host 1-3 days/wk.
ben_vulpes: no "school" per se, but individuals contracted to teach groups of 5, 8, perhaps 10, specific subjects.
ben_vulpes: tis a healthy wot of "fuck you usg" around here
ben_vulpes: 'tisn't actually "alone at home" in this part of the world.
ben_vulpes: "other people's progeny"?
ben_vulpes: ah tie problem
ben_vulpes: and mircea_popescu what jr high classmates lol
ben_vulpes: must be two for comparison to be meaningful
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: add it to the long list of shit that'll need multiple implementations just for testing
ben_vulpes: nono, saw.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol
ben_vulpes: 'cascadian mortar'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aha yes
ben_vulpes: bpg?
ben_vulpes: i'm expecting vietnamese-style contact mines launched from a longbow but yes
ben_vulpes: cedar levi vulpes, in the grand vulpesian tradition of shit not making any sense whatsoever
ben_vulpes: you get a name in this family when you take out your first irs agent
ben_vulpes: name? he can't even talk yet.
ben_vulpes: is now crowing self-satisfiedly on the floor
ben_vulpes: in completely other news, the child just rolled over of his own accord for the first time
ben_vulpes: i saw
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414470 << on an older thread: code takes at least 2 months to review, financial statements ~6, unless you're in a hurry to give asciilifeform 10 btc, may as well shoot for somewhere in that range.
ben_vulpes: my favorite arcade game -- Wrong About Everything! (tm)
ben_vulpes: one passive one active?
ben_vulpes: that is not 'reading the logs' that is 'engaging with the forum'
ben_vulpes: "sure" is probably the least enticing thing you could possibly say in that circumstance lol
ben_vulpes: "social problem"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: was asking about getting assbot to regurgitate pubkeys on demand
ben_vulpes: sorry, i was being snide.
ben_vulpes: is supposed to?
ben_vulpes: what, reading the logs magically solves the key distribution problem? or do i catastrophically misunderstand.
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: has it though
ben_vulpes: naively, from each of our websites?
ben_vulpes: ah, i recall now.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: while mod6's scripts pull them down from the net, i think this is actually a social problem.
ben_vulpes: hdbuck use the linked v99995
ben_vulpes: <blink>HOW TO NODE</blink> on thebitcoin.foundation would be an improvement
ben_vulpes: and me
ben_vulpes: that wiki'll be the death of poor mod6
ben_vulpes: anyways this i believe to be the current version: http://mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh
ben_vulpes: v99997. not that anyone could be reasonably expected to know that that's 2 degrees out of date.
ben_vulpes: notrly a thing to spend much time debugging, it does say 'line-3'
ben_vulpes: run more chromeblows!
ben_vulpes: http://dpaste.com/2ZZXGPW#line-3 << see anything else wrong, asciilifeform ?
ben_vulpes: !up PaulCape_
ben_vulpes: phf: i'd love to see your clang work *elbow elbow*
ben_vulpes: apt-get-fucked
ben_vulpes: lewd
ben_vulpes: YOU WOULDN'T ENCRYPT A CHILD
ben_vulpes: or a gun
ben_vulpes: only a criminal would encrypt a child
ben_vulpes: we must decrypt the children
ben_vulpes: well think of the children trinque
ben_vulpes: i only linked that piece because it quoted stan!
ben_vulpes: sheesh
ben_vulpes: someone quoted alf << and in 2011 even
ben_vulpes: http://www.winestockwebdesign.com/Essays/Lisp_Curse.html << i am surprised that this has not yet been linked here
ben_vulpes: mthreat: buttman! lol
ben_vulpes: phf ^^]
ben_vulpes: ya plz
ben_vulpes: "tell us how much you diddled each other so that we may distribute other diddling equitably"
ben_vulpes: slow motion statal rape
ben_vulpes: w2's are a crime
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: LZOZLZO
ben_vulpes: why ask a yoke-fly anything?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414470 << i am categorically unqualified to opine on this
ben_vulpes: aww i missed the cascadian-hunting ok cupid slut!
ben_vulpes: > 24,733 people around the world have filed bankruptcy claims related to the MtGox exchange
ben_vulpes: PUNKMAN SENDS DINGLEBERRIES
ben_vulpes: OH WELCOME BACK ASSBOT
ben_vulpes back to oar
ben_vulpes: is this thing standardized or not?!
ben_vulpes: there is also load-from-path
ben_vulpes: mod6: http://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/documentation/mit-scheme-user/Loading-Files.html
ben_vulpes: mod6: traditionally you use emacs and C-c C-k to compile the file in
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: irc for derps
ben_vulpes: s/things//
ben_vulpes: in "other things jewels ripped from the forum's wall" news, Slack will repost the relevant log link when a user pastes its url into a chat
ben_vulpes: i b'leev asciilifeform even pegged it as a cowardly apology to der fuhrer
ben_vulpes: this one's in the log somewhere
ben_vulpes: atlantean troll proof doors for my safe space
ben_vulpes: no bully
ben_vulpes: plz
ben_vulpes: no bully phf
ben_vulpes: scuse me
ben_vulpes: babylonian
ben_vulpes: oh
ben_vulpes: what confluence of events put scheme-81 chips in the hands of people who 3d print passwords to github repos in sumerian tablet reproduction style
ben_vulpes: i can't
ben_vulpes: i think
ben_vulpes: i
ben_vulpes: wut
ben_vulpes: > github
ben_vulpes: > password
ben_vulpes: cancer of the semilollin
ben_vulpes: salesbabes don't wear spandex, boothbabes do.
ben_vulpes: and JuliaTourianski_ a great salesbabe
ben_vulpes: this is an implementation detail, punkman
ben_vulpes: (swanky, one might say)
ben_vulpes: (swank, that is)
ben_vulpes: v. cool, phf.
ben_vulpes: (hi trinque!)
ben_vulpes: heck of a journey tho
ben_vulpes: phf: popular place with the ru folk in the area
ben_vulpes: whats the connection between key and file hash algos?
ben_vulpes: Jacmet: another thing worth pointing out are that sha1 and md5 are obsolete
ben_vulpes: !s de raadt
ben_vulpes: !s linus
ben_vulpes: Jacmet: buildroot is working rather niftily.
ben_vulpes: Jacmet: are you K?
ben_vulpes: whoa hey
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yup.
ben_vulpes: brainfuck etc
ben_vulpes: i read 'tc' in the sense of 'can express arbitrary actions', in the vein of the old joke about programming in $shitlang: "hey, it's turing complete, we can make it do whatever we need"
ben_vulpes: these are the original hooks? i misread
ben_vulpes: what even was the point of the schemehooks?
ben_vulpes: as demonstrated!
ben_vulpes: but the phood is phr33!
ben_vulpes: phf: it's a hobby
ben_vulpes: 'easy development environments for derpvelopers on macintosh!'
ben_vulpes: no, 'twas some abortion pulled in via 'atlas', 'hashicorp'
ben_vulpes: to be frank, i have no idea how this gentoo image was even built in the first place.
ben_vulpes: i figured this for more of a "half bottle of wine in a girl's butt" report. entertainment, not science.
ben_vulpes: is this perversion even worth running down?
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: gcc (Gentoo 4.6.3 p1.13, pie-0.5.2) 4.6.3
ben_vulpes: i didn't even check.
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: mod6: under ubuntu 14.04 running make in buildroot exits as above
ben_vulpes: mod6: under gentoo the vm simply gives up on life
ben_vulpes: phf: share your weird!
ben_vulpes: here's the last line, asciilifeform: x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-gcc: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault (program cc1)
ben_vulpes gives up again
ben_vulpes: and in other nyooz of the weird and strange saga of ben_vulpes endeavoring to set up a reference implementation on his heathen macintosh, buildroot fails to compile in linux virtual machines of all sorts of flavors
ben_vulpes: > 9 connections << coracle currently serving 13 strangers
ben_vulpes: lol thread support did it huh?
ben_vulpes: my sha1 and md5 match those in k's .sign
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform produced legacy hashes, they match the ones i have on disk and the ones you have right?
ben_vulpes: it's just another thing in the way of wrapping this up, mod6 .
ben_vulpes: "the army we have"
ben_vulpes: c42fdd39cb2bc46804a86a7d7b2605bd3cd9ddcb365c4e5a1fb147eb02b234fc31a70c8140be2f4d27cd371c84e0c6701f8cb47697dd1c18dd0e0cce784aa07a
ben_vulpes imagines stan's face shooped onto the manul
ben_vulpes: mod6: yeah.
ben_vulpes: apparently
ben_vulpes: ha wow did the shitgnomes snip that mod6 ?
ben_vulpes: also that signature is disturbingly short
ben_vulpes: mod6: while there's no harm in checking the .sign, i don't know what it buys us
ben_vulpes: mod6: perhaps hard code the hashes from korsgaard's signature and verify those?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu's javascript also doesn't work in every browser
ben_vulpes: wait come back
ben_vulpes: you keep irc working right?
ben_vulpes: and irc
ben_vulpes: also assbot
ben_vulpes: bitbet is broken kakobrekla
ben_vulpes: unless mp^H^Hmods decide 'overall' has some magical meaning
ben_vulpes: alphago can "win" with handicap of 12 stones and that bet goes green
ben_vulpes: that bet is going to surprise some people
ben_vulpes: no mention of handicap
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell trinque yo hey yo hey
ben_vulpes: yo where da trinque at
ben_vulpes: yes?
ben_vulpes: ...
ben_vulpes: i thought the vacation was already scheduled, hence the manic deadline pressure
ben_vulpes: gernika: megalol
ben_vulpes: "trick question: first they magic veggieburgers into existence to pretend like they ate something wholesome before desert."
ben_vulpes: "so you leave a hamplanet in a room with frosting, cornchips, guacamole, and cookies. which do they eat first?"
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes waits for the punchline
ben_vulpes: it's not like gavin's going to steal a march on you or anything
ben_vulpes: go take a vacation dood
ben_vulpes: emerge --ask =app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.19
ben_vulpes: mod6: =app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.19
ben_vulpes: oh yeah
ben_vulpes: v9999**
ben_vulpes: mod6: mine *does* verify the signature, but not in the build-bitcoin-v999o*.sh context
ben_vulpes: gernika: gpg version?
ben_vulpes: sure, no.
ben_vulpes: if asciilifeform hadn't already declared himself to not touch anything that brought anything down from the net he'd be complaining about all of the above as well
ben_vulpes: mod6: nobody's saying that buildroot should be v-verified, but that not isolating buildscripts from the user gpg keyring is...not great.
ben_vulpes: yeah the v-wrapping build scripts don't isolate themselves from the user keyring.
ben_vulpes: phf: you'll note that's more or less exactly what my v does
ben_vulpes: unless it's lying and it is verifying the signature anyways
ben_vulpes: mod6: because gpg says the signature isn't actually verified!
ben_vulpes: waitwait hang on
ben_vulpes: mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1246638 << this has been a known issue since august 2015
ben_vulpes: (girl hands me child, i place child on floor, "you know precisely what i do when you hand him to me, you could just save us the fifteen seconds and put him on the floor yourself")
ben_vulpes: and not just a 'you' and a very sleep deprived and useless me?
ben_vulpes: mod6: are you even certain there was a 'we' running this a few weeks ago?
ben_vulpes: "what verification error?!:
ben_vulpes: mine sailed through merrily
ben_vulpes: gernika does your script go so far as to exit at that point?!
ben_vulpes: just snarking phf
ben_vulpes: so does that mean no parenscript? :P
ben_vulpes: i appreciate boring
ben_vulpes: how are you shipping to this thing? hacking directly on the running lisp image?
ben_vulpes: nifty phf
ben_vulpes: ah jesus fuck javascript
ben_vulpes: ah yeah change
ben_vulpes: or would that be horrendously dumb
ben_vulpes: can has submit onSelect ?
ben_vulpes: much better
ben_vulpes: does not work when tabbing to the dropdown and hitting the spacebar
ben_vulpes: oh interesting
ben_vulpes: but when i click the dropdown some js takes over and doesn't let me select anything
ben_vulpes: phf: btcbase keeps getting niftier
ben_vulpes: that sweet song of "clean socks for you! clean shirts for you!"
ben_vulpes: but aha i do recall that mjr and pgp were in the same room a few times
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol no i do not
ben_vulpes: phf: no, pgp.
ben_vulpes: dag
ben_vulpes: "Phil Potter \n Chief Strategy Officer \n Bitfinex"
ben_vulpes: wow and world trade financial group is no longer even a thing
ben_vulpes: ahaha phil went derp?
ben_vulpes: how this came to be i do not know
ben_vulpes: jurov: yes, this script uses the user keyring
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mod6 b-b-...5.sh works fine on something approaching a sane computer
ben_vulpes: i think that i understand the windows comment now
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: old habits do die hard.
ben_vulpes: strictly a release tool for the free world, then.
ben_vulpes: i'm still trying to cook up a syllogism over here
ben_vulpes: thanks mod6, no need to kill yourself driving at 90mph
ben_vulpes: i am not well versed enough in the history of gcc and llvm to understand this.
ben_vulpes: 'code monkey' excuse me
ben_vulpes: the turning of a compiler which should simply ingest code and shit elfs into a developer-centric tool?
ben_vulpes fully adrift now, without even a sun to tell east from west
ben_vulpes: i should simply expect misery from you every time i bring up the topic of how a v might work then?
ben_vulpes is hit by a particularly unpleasant revelatory wave