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(trilema) ben_vulpes: like from:ben_vulpes etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how do i /use/ the new search
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that was a very sneaky dodge.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hey!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what it's not streaming to the browser for rendering with js over websocket?!?!?!?!?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how does search work on the new logz?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imagine what the third congress will have
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what, you think i'm so foolish as to try semantic analysis on...all of the scripts?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "crowds0urced"!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nono this is a /cynical/ play
(trilema) ben_vulpes has spent an inordinate amount of time coercing a proprietary db to shit more instances of itself out, is rather fed up with proprietary things
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nyooz to me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dds has rape category?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: war, ghosts etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mostly 'cause i want a movie index categorized by rape, violence, blood, misogyny...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: no, more of a "is this movie going to hurt muh feelz?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am actually noodling on an insanely cynical webapp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hanbot is not "woman" in the same way that mod6 is not "redditor"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought cunt was woman's only saleable asset
(trilema) ben_vulpes: consumers have come to whatever it was
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > and in general remain committed to the success of Bitcoin << aw, that's sweet of you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: PeterL: did you /read/ the thing? it is not longer even remotely possible to own a stake in the thing anymore.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: as much congratulations as are due and as many condolences.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, works.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which makes batching trivial. "does this key match something in the DB?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does look from here as though there's some key from a request to the action to be performed in the OTP url.
(trilema) ben_vulpes has no actual idea how trinque's written the thing, only making inferences.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or different paths for rating/authing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: requires server-side complexity to handle batched ratings
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the last time i fucked with bouncers, let's say.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ftr it has been utterly rock solid for me since...i don't even remember.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: weechatup BRO
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah don't do that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: ssh -t $BOUNCER tmux attach
(trilema) ben_vulpes laughing out loud on the shop floor
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: a bouncer is ~same work as scripting auth
(trilema) ben_vulpes: many gains yet to be wrung.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 2012 miners are still just early adopters.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so basically someone who understands how asics work sat down and thought about it for half a second
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is this optimization?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yet few actually went so far as to implement that which they were voting for
(trilema) ben_vulpes: many miners threw the voting bit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the mainstreamers had this notion that miners would vote on their acceptance of a certain fork by including some data in the block
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rather illuminating
(trilema) ben_vulpes: agorecki: which ones what?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: agorecki: do you remember the "voting with blocks" fiasco?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: agorecki: miners run heavily patched whateverthefucktheyfeel like
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what "bit coin companies", hm?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mind the client/protocol gap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: has the /best/ drugs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: agorecki: we're just over here having our own little insane bitcoin cult party
(trilema) ben_vulpes: $up agorecki therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i wanted to see his brain melt when you linked him to the foundation, ml etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'twas just getting fun, danielpbarron
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is an oooooold thread.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: agorecki: never did his six months it appears
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aok yes piles 'o context in there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: are you familiar with trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/ ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a half-decent bug report i think
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: correctly restated: "in the context of producing nonce-th block/bit digests per 'prerequisite'"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've yet to determine if ndos survives serialization
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: kinda orthogonal from serialization of blocks to disk
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i do mean cblock specifically, and in the context of producing hashes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "DoS" seems rather farfetched, a readthrough of the DoS usage implies it's more of an ad-hoc block/txn rule enforcement mechanism.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does this CBlock->nDos thing actually matter?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: give or take a figure of significance or two.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 1982 muscle car driven at 75-95 mph for 160 miles gets 18.25 mpg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other completely unrelated news, i went out to what passes for wine country here to refresh the office cellars. found some delicious bottles for not absurd prices, lovely people, etc. but! stunner to me at least:
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how did you derive those rates?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fully granted, corn in the gas is a tax of its own.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not all plain 'excise', there's rather a lot of corn in "regular".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this has been your consumer energy cost cum shitflation report
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "regular" gasoline for 1.97/gal, "premium clear" (somewhat higher octane, no ethanol) gas for 3.17/gal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nominally, a "Intel D27512 UV Erasable PROM from 1989"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is fine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i'm waiting for him to chime in
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: trinque is frantically encrypting otps by hand behind the curtain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm trying to not read too much into it, basically.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not having a single model for what anything means is a feature.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: but hey perhaps it actually strengthens things to have infrastructure operated by people of varying rank in the various wots
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i do not understand mircea_popescu's selection criteria for the new l1, but i don't think i am given to.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am not pleased by many things about the schism, jurov
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well when you put it that way it's blindingly obvious
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can someone tell me what the syntax `unsigned int& nNonce = *(unsigned int*)(pdata + 12);` in the context of http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#2661 means?
(trilema) ben_vulpes chuckles darkly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely certain this is such a bad thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "rsync and asdf:load-system" (tm r phf)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "i'm not ghetto! i swear!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "i sensed this fist in me"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "fistally sensible"
(trilema) ben_vulpes knows, has a civic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: civic is 'poor' not 'ghetto'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they're "fiscally sensible"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude toyotas aren't ghetto
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can attest to this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: strip club, singles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: submitted the foundation statement yesterday, i've heard of no resignation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: see also 'lulzy shit'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: surely they're just available for dynamic linking in twitter's global namespace
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other news, the keccak reference implementation appears to have been written on a windows machine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (i don't know where that errant 'roles' came from)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: inland i believe they source yeast roles from landwhale folds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: around here we just have hipster girls frolicking in meadows waving empty mason jars around
(trilema) ben_vulpes: interesting yeast sourcing, mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: technical note, all wotpastes linked in #trilema will expire in 36 hours. i'll have to work with phf to get something in place to preserve pastes from #trilema.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: returning to 'boots on the ground', mircea_popescu raises a valid point about changing the interface on users. but the "it should restart on code change to tell users things changed" imposes a very painful, unnecessary constraint on diddling deployed systems.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, people are accustomed to hammering their fingers in the door, so i should allow for people who want me to hammer their fingers before letting them into the house?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: same'd likely have happened even under restart conditions. difference'd be that the chan would (maybe) see a join/part
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes quite obvious, trying to get him to reconsider automating the control rods
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moreover, how would you make that work with batching?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why would you want that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks trinque, phf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: logs and a wot!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski interesting! so one can either borrow at a low rate and expect no return, or borrow at a high rate and pray for a return?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: nevermind that the tools in 'hackerspaces' are invariably so completely out of true as to be useless
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol over what?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: mhm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tis an ersatz auto
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now /those/ are some good vibrations.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: microelectric shitmobile is economical in the same way that ersatz american cheese is economical
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski's wife's car is not on pete_dushenski's books?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mostly because i intend to own the thing for over a decade, and not drive it a whole lot.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll take the odd thousand dollar charge over a car lease.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: btw, where is the epic mp asciilifeform thread about tuning the nonce shifting to ensure nodes have a market for their digests?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: who said anything about waiting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not a lot of time to get keccak into the hairball.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: april, may, july
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i was actually trying to figure out what that interest rate point /was/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (and where is the "lease don't buy your car!1" tip?)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: canadoes that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 1% interest on checking or savings accounts oh my sides
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: this interest rate claim: are you implying that house prices go up when interest rates go down, ergo the house won't appreciate if you buy when rates are low and so don't?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i grow convinced that wherever pete_dushenski hails from is even weirder than asciilifeform's big gulag
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ten dollar tacos?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or have it delivered up the street
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh well in that case just budget 2 hours to drive it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: farm equipment is entirely allowed on the highway here, mostly because...we have farms.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although i'd go for an excavator
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "no dood i rented it for laffs for tonight."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "holy shit is that your daily driver?!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: iono man when i want to show up at a party in a stupidly expensive car for fun, i rent something ludicrous not a fucking ford
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the same kind of people who lease cars!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but not for "showing up for events" but for "showing up for the commute"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "hi i would like to pay interest on the loan for this car and also the one that you'll replace it with."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how is car renting not a poorfag thing?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: plugging his hole with the pastes?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: less of a shooting and more of a staking out for carrion birds though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just send kid to public skool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "this land is shit land, that land is shitland, from the trash of new york, to the smog of l.a......"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: y'all never stripped out the 2 weeks?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: molded by stupid, from shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought systemd was modeled after windows
(trilema) ben_vulpes still waiting for integrated apple/ms/mobile linux
(trilema) ben_vulpes: welcome to...1970?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: depreciation, maintenance, spine damage, vulnerability to other humans and their wrecking-ball-vehicles
(trilema) ben_vulpes actually could, but prefers not to
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hay is for horses, not arguments
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey i never said better
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "slaves build 'em!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes mind-blow, horses are free what next houses?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wake me when the us starts making roads out of something other than oil byproducts again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: horses are more expensive than a car what is this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: only people biking in town are noisy impoverished children like myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not the right people
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bikers are supposed to just get the fuck out of the way, sensibly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there are notorious questions on the or dl test about rider signalling. yes, /horse/ rider signalling.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: horse is only not in your particularly insane part of the states
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b-b-but BingoBoingo "the columns of caaarz!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes is suitably entertained
(trilema) ben_vulpes: subject of, why did mircea_popescu choose to stay on fleanode?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: i'd expect at least a court and a forum
(trilema) ben_vulpes: afaict there is mircea_popescu's court, some dismally jolly sappers digging tunnels, and some people emptying bedpans in their finery
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what we, what republic.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quadruple if you count the second, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "we", but aha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tangentially relatedly, i've been trying to reconcile "designing a fork to heal the breach between miners and nodes" with "proceed from causes not towards purposes"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not a true double spend unless you spend...twice.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aup that's the one trinque thanks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm, steve yegge had a piece called "quality without a name", large part was how amazon used (heavily customized) emacs for customer support during the early years, and support staff hated everything that came afterwards
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you have a copy of yegge's "quality without a name" stashed somewhere?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "for quaternionlet!!!!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have you...turned your computer off and then on again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: our very own pascalian wager
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nevertheless, ask i did, and answer of some sort i received.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i asked "why did you not bring this before the forum first?", and received "what, /you/ idiots?", from which i derive that i am not to expect answers, and if to not expect answer why ask?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: when i asked, you said "none of you dickbags get off your asses and actually do anything, why would i ask of you one whit"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eyyy trinque not that you're short of work or anything rn but hey, add 'titles' to the todo list?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and as mircea_popescu has pointed out, courts' mandate descends from the king but may not bind him
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sometimes even with exclamation points!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm entirely guilty of seeing something that my raven-eye finds shiny and reacting with "neat" or "nifty" or "cool"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hard to say, as a cow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "but if the cost of having continuity is to be shackled to dem000cracy (tm alf), i'll happily shed the continuity to be rid of the cows"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: diana_coman: "change is the only constant!" (d,tmr~). i've no desire for communiteh and happiness and being in a room where everyone gets along. but the logs were valuable in their own right, for as long as they had that continuity.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: smoke more cigarettes, talk shit about cmdrs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but hey, we move the camp, dig more latrines.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am fully torn between the poles of wanting to understand why mircea_popescu burned the coins to make the point, desperately wanting continuity with the logs-as-they-were, and recognizing the futility-cum-insubordination of a footsoldier asking anything
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