ascii_field: and what better example can there be of illustration of the concept of 'program' than a music box ?
ascii_field: so we can go there if we like. or to van kempelen's musical boxes if we must.
ascii_field: though telex existed in the 30s, there are nazi examples preserved
ascii_field: we are still emulating the vt100, which in turn emulated this simple machine, telex.
ascii_field: simply that is is a program for a certain kind of apparatus, where the instructions correspond to throwing glyphs on a display
ascii_field: can describe 'text' as a program as well. simply with much larger valid phase space.
ascii_field: 'text' doesn't need to satisfy a compiler.
ascii_field: why share the things that compress so well with prior art.
ascii_field: ;;later tell BingoBoingo https://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/95069240?trk=vsrp_jobs_cluster_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A168653501446058347732%2CVSRPtargetId%3A95069240%2CVSRPcmpt%3Ajobs_cluster << add to the balloon story
asciilifeform: e.g., to walk the blockchain, verify a raid array 24/7 in a loop, handle six parallel compiles; store and play the correct bach fugue depending on what emacs modeline is set; etc.
asciilifeform: though perhaps this is a good time to remind people that a sane computer would look quite like an msdos box in some ways
asciilifeform: how much of his life does mircea_popescu spend waiting for compiles? for numbers to crunch? and i specifically mean WAITING FOR A MACHINE not for a human operator to get his shit together
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310724 << MP DOES NOT WRITE SOFTWARE
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310480 << substitute 'human compiler' for 'programmer' and suddenly it all makes sense...
ascii_field: or if, i suppose, significant temperature move
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i have 4, of 3 different types. can comment on the characteristics of the particular samples.
ascii_field: and will report you, terrorist, if you tamper.
ascii_field: see also http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/federal-workplace/bs-md-blimps-20150924-story.html
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu the fucking blimp broke loose. https://twitter.com/jmvfc8/status/659415973699670016/photo/1
ascii_field: the important thing is that v (at least my version) has no notion of 'current checkout' or whatnot.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-10-2015#1309899 << i originally wanted to build vdiff into v proper, but decided against it, for simplicity.
asciilifeform: it needs two compilers to build ?!!
asciilifeform: i must have missed it: what was the motivation for attempting these chimeras ?
asciilifeform: mats: you do not see complexity per se as a bug ?
asciilifeform: iirc it was compatible with 0.6.something.
asciilifeform: 'A friend of mine who is a quite successful doctor complains constantly about her job. When people applying to medical school ask her for advice, she wants to shake them and yell "Don't do it!" (But she never does.) How did she get into this fix? In high school she already wanted to be a doctor. And she is so ambitious and determined that she overcame every obstacle along the way-- including, unfortunately, not liking it.'
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as having an internal compass, if you will
asciilifeform: this was an attempt to set up an ACTUAL WORKSTATION on top of musl.
asciilifeform: ' Why would Bitcoin XT be subject to censorship? Simply put, this fork proposal calls for something that does not suit the agendas of the people in charge of /r/Bitcoin.' << still this?!!!
asciilifeform: ah i recall earlier attempts at this
asciilifeform: they understood that if they were to simply draw the banner and say fuckit, it would devolve into soup
asciilifeform: at the very least, these people didn't buy into 'the implementation is the spec'
asciilifeform: but it is true, circus trainers have accomplished some amazing things
asciilifeform: thing is, the existence of rampaging pseudointellectuals does not invalidate actual life-of-the-mind as a thing.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-10-2015#1308996 << not the same. 'know how fridge works' is still in the keeping of a life of the mind. whereas 'be impervious to ambush in dark alley' is (barring very few exceptions, philosopher-soldierieng-mircea_popescus of various strips) ~not~.
asciilifeform: for n00bz, i will point out that is is possible to build a computer where, e.g., buffer overruns, is PHYSICALLY impossible
asciilifeform: what's left is 'you open the box and there is a mess of 16nm tamper-resistant undocumented silicon, have fun'
asciilifeform: as for the batshit element, there is a stable of folks, working (publicly known since at the earliest 2001, but likely earlier) to 'undo the mistake' of the general-purpose computer
asciilifeform: and chumps beg for moar.
asciilifeform: this keeps in perfect fitting with the 'computing industry'-as-a-protection racket business model of the last 20+ yrs, where it 'solves' exclusively those problems which it, itself, creates.
asciilifeform: one is the microshit/palladium/fritzchip/treacherous computing (see rms essay by same name) totalitarian batshit
asciilifeform: i thought it was more of a 'sympathetic magic' (term of art re: shamanology) item
asciilifeform: ('need a computer, that is lightweight, but for taking to a place where it is likely to grow legs, e.g., airport)
asciilifeform: anyway 1st step to using one of these boxes as something like a computer is reformat, naturally.
asciilifeform: the jumper in the samsung is a circular sticker of conductive rubber in the upper edge of the mb
asciilifeform: also typically there is a write-protect jumper on the eeprom in the box, that has to be removed.
asciilifeform: (e.g., i had a vivisected arm chromebook with me in romania, as disposable comp.)
asciilifeform: for some years i have experiment, on and off, with transforming them into something like a computer
asciilifeform: dell's 'chromebook 11'. but keep in mind 1) it requires heavy-duty massage to transform into something like a civilized pc and 2) 'mil-std' is not 'stops rifle bullet' but simply means it passed some degree of traditional vibration, dust, water tortures.
asciilifeform: speaking only of the particular pet, it is innocent of makeup, and has purse solely because pockets are not consistently implemented in woman's clothing
asciilifeform: simply that we're encoding constants as ternaries ?
asciilifeform admits that he was very tempted to do precisely this. but went in for 'absolute minimum of moving parts' for the current experimental item, for reasons which are not difficult to understand
asciilifeform: to be clear, i was speaking of emulated computer, not a physical one
asciilifeform: but you would actually have to buy the same computer he had
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: sbcl is an interesting beast. there are really two compilers (and before anyone asks, their semantic idempotence is neither proven nor provable) - a bootstrapper, in c, and a battlefield variant, in itself.
asciilifeform: ;;google treacherous computing
asciilifeform: or microshit's 'trusted computing.'
asciilifeform: also - as mats knows - or ought to know - 'trusted' is a usg shibboleth for 'resists attempts at understanding or modification by putative owner'
asciilifeform: the result FROM MY CHAIR is that the code is MORE COMPLEX
asciilifeform: viva la revolución por siempre y para siempre
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 1950s usa, 'benzo' meant benzoamphetamine.
asciilifeform: gentoo simply appears to be the worst-looking horse in the glue factory on account of not having a protective coating of bullshit
asciilifeform: complicated. most aren't 100% dead
asciilifeform: it is relatively simple if you are mircea_popescu and the only thing that needs to run is lynx and gpg 1.4
asciilifeform: a year or so ago i chronicled (see logz!) my attempts to get a toshiba 'libretto 100ct' vintage ultraportable going with something like a reasonable unix
asciilifeform: simple explanation
asciilifeform: but the basic lesson, which is for some reason hidden behind a thick veil of shitsmoke, is that c is not built to be reasoned about mechanically, ergo relying on the compiler to save you from yourself is retarded.
asciilifeform: (has others, which appear when you pull this jumper off. but not this one)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-10-2015#1306752 << seems like a very basic thing: the 'hersheyization' of sex ('everybody gets a wife') inevitably leads to 'If you think it looks stupid when a 40 year old man buys a convertible or has to go find himself or chases a 20 year old intern' and a caste of priests tasked with convincing chumps that ~this~ is - somehow - sanity.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: there were a bunch of important things which did not work.
ascii_field: so it is not simply a matter of highlighting text on a www page.
ascii_field: anyway it remains simple to get actual chocolate, at least near major urban centers in usa (where ru immigrants live.) but as an ~ingredient~ it has become very scarce. i've largely given up on ice cream, for instance.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2015#1305946 << a good chunk of what he owned was nearly-worthless swampland. which he pawned off on the new government, and it became... modern washington, d.c.
ascii_field: what? your computer is from 2007 and you expect to use it a decade from now? terrorist!
asciilifeform: i must admit, i was tempted
asciilifeform: d not waived the governments sovereign immunity from such suits, it lacked jurisdiction to entertain Waltons complaint, which it therefore dismissed.'
asciilifeform: 'In a thirty-four-page opinion, the Court of Federal Claims dismissed Waltons complaint for lack of jurisdiction. The court held that the suit could not be maintained because the statutory provisions governing copyright infringement suits against the United States (28 U.S.C. § 1498(b), discussed in Part II infra), do not permit such suits by prisoners in Waltons situation. The court further held that because Congress ha
ascii_field: (if there were a recovery prompt, as in normal sys5-style init, it would be fixable. as it is, whole thing - os lives on nand flash for which i haven't the emergency reflash clips - is a writeoff)
ascii_field: from the lulzatron: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/jimmy-carter-offers-help-for-russias-bombing-campaign-in-syria
ascii_field: https://tpbonion.com/torrent/3769989/Symbolics_Open_Genera_2.0_for_Alpha_-_complete_package_with_Lisp << afaik the 1st comment on this mega-t0rr3nt was the only thing dks ever said in public
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: from my distant perch i cannot say whether the butugychag school of thought has given amazon any advantage vs the other great halls'o'humancompilers.
ascii_field: 'Bezos runs a company, not a playground for millenials. He runs it to make a profit...' << the last bit is technically a mistake...
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: complete with 'ударники', firings of 'bottom x%', etc.
ascii_field: there are a few of my attempts in the logz.
ascii_field: gabrielradio, mircea_popescu: lulzy piece. ought to be accompanied with a drawing of 'man of the future' - a two-metre cock with small legs (like caterpillar's)
ascii_field recalls scene from 'silicon valley' where a rich fella (fictionalized steve jobs) compares his troubles to that of jews in germany
ascii_field: attempted maidfuck
asciilifeform: my attempted point was precisely that, not being escobar, many more places are uninhabitable from my pov, because i cannot afford to terraform them.
asciilifeform: (it is not a mere display monitor, but actually its own - 16-bit! computer.)
asciilifeform: which 1) uses incompatible, unreadable on any modern system whatsoever, electrical interface
asciilifeform: problem is not simply that it is oversized.
ascii_field: BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes, other aficionados: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-XL1201-LISP-MACHINE-/221915599560
ascii_field: 'Another, even better, way that can be executed pre-authentication was found later. In fact, when looking deeper into the firmware code we noticed every time the status VSC is called, the raw RNG bytes are masked with a static value. This static 4-byte value, 0x271828af, is xored with the 4-byte RNG output. Further this value is xored with the last 4-byte SY N value before sending the value to the host computer. Using the
ascii_field: (although limonov is prolly not the metric here, as he was almost entirely the same animal as orwell - complete with 'ritual' visit to a war, even got to fire a rifle, yes! cummed in his pants)
ascii_field: d the detail of our lives is just as sordid and degrading as it could be in prison, let alone in a bourgeois army.’ Many other things reinforced this impression later; for instance, the boredom and animal hunger of trench life, the squalid intrigues over scraps of food, the mean, nagging quarrels which people exhausted by lack of sleep indulge in.'
ascii_field: soldier is in no sense the example of 'man impervious to wire'
ascii_field: thing is, a situation like this is impossible without barbed wire & guards (in one form or another)
ascii_field: 'Comparing this plot to 10000 4-byte values retrieved from /dev/urandom ( Figure 6 ), gives us a strong
ascii_field: 'i need to compute the volume of hydrogen in this bottle' 'compute volume, take the pressure....' 'i've never seen the bottle!'
ascii_field: no. i do have a secret pasttime of reading just about anything written by prisoners, in all times and places, with emphasis on modern americans. but i cannot pretend to be an expert.
asciilifeform: not entirely relatedly, there is apparently a broadway musical about alexander hamilton. (for non-u.s. folks, a contemporary of george washington, famously killed in a duel.) so the inevitable, sacramental question: when do we get an equally duel-romanticized play about galois ?
asciilifeform: 'There are a few simple seeming functions in libc which turn out to be quite complicated under the hood. You call a function expecting a simple result, but then libc runs off and opens a bunch of sockets to remote servers and chats them up. This makes setting up a robust sandbox difficult and error prone. (Wait, what? Why is ls creating sockets???)' << lulz
asciilifeform: how 'lawful personal users' are to get their dope without contact with 'lawless impersonal' dope-dealing caste, remains undefined (because whole shebang is a joke)
asciilifeform: it is merely the introduction of a new layer of chumps, 'lawful personal users' - who do not even need to physically exist to support new layers of 'moar studiez needed' mandarins, enforcer thugs, etc
ascii_field: http://www.terranimpact.com/site/projects/x-ray/x-raydetect.php << buy tube, build.
ascii_field: (in his 'computing power and human reason')
ascii_field: 'Surprisingly, Dropcam’s privacy policy doesn’t warn customers that the government could seize the cloud-based video from their cameras or tap into their live-streams, and doesn’t state under which circumstances the company would comply with such a request. (Update: And law enforcement has come calling with warrants.)' << ahahaha
ascii_field: http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=18996 << for aficionados of '23andme' and related chumpatrons
ascii_field: aha, so they can start the 40% interest chumpatron going early in life
ascii_field: originally had a meaning: shops with $maxint funding and complete vertical integration for virii production (pipeline of 0day mining, proof of concept, weaponization, deployment) etc.
ascii_field: 'A perfect example of the perils faced by researchers was provided in a separate talk at Virus Bulletin by Costin Raiu, director of Kaspersky Lab’s Global Research and Analysis Team. Raiu revealed that when he was involved in the analysis of Stuxnet a few years ago, someone broke into his house and left a rubber cube with the message “take a break” written on it.'
asciilifeform: then what does it mean? work through the example with the old woman, for my education
asciilifeform: not precisely. more that ~redemptive humiliation~ only exists for young woman.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: work this example. so schmuck sat down on this broomstick. now what happens ?
asciilifeform: but what would 'stop' look like? let's have a worked example ?
asciilifeform: since mircea_popescu unearthed tlp again... http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/02/the_rage_of_the_average_joe.html << exemplifies my least favourite aspects.
asciilifeform: yes, it is. the example i am sitting on right now weights perhaps half a tonne, occupies most of a small room...
asciilifeform: mod6: phun phakt: google has reviews for, e.g.: nsa campus. federal prisons. 'a+++, would rot again!' etc.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'This working stiff is required to use all sorts of radioactive waste in the pursuit of his daily work. HTML, CSS, JS
functional programming languages that incomprehensibly compile from one AST to another in a vain attempt to keep my mind safe from the radiation of the underlying
' << could be worse. you could do all of this and also be poor.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not even. implicit in this hypothesis is some kind of bargain - that there will be eating.
asciilifeform: but you did! trompi !
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1301140 << kogge had an entire encyclopaedic work on the subject, with dozens of examples from 1980s-90s >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-03-2015#1063060
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: 0.6 didn't have importprivkey...
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2015#1300865 << interestingly, they are ~not~ in the mpi seen in gpg 1.4.10... hence the 'where??'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu for whom does gnu-mpi have the jacobi, legendre, kronecker, lucas knobs?! i have failed to turn up any instance of anyone ever having used them. or even tested.
asciilifeform: 'malleability' vector - any idiot can, presently, flip it, and both variants compute as valid sig.
ascii_field: yes but imposed.
ascii_field: 'This 1 Simple Trick "Fixes" Your Erectile Dysfunction.'
ascii_field: anyway in usa it is a very simple matter, as described by herr orlov: near-everybody there is 2 or 3 missed paycheques away from hobo-dom.
ascii_field: hobo trump.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this is as interesting as computing the odds of being chinese.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2015#1299791 << who the hell ever heard of an employed ammonia-atmosphere-breathing dragon
ascii_field: ianal, but the implication is 'no jail if you come home, but don't expect supplies or rescue if you're in a bind, or good pr'
ascii_field: camera is expensive, compared to doing nothing. cheap compared to sending men on airplanes.
ascii_field: and, to the extent it is used as popularly imagined ('two parties with no prior relation') easily mitmable and impossible to use as intended even in principle.
asciilifeform: 'Factom's software allows companies to maintain a permanent, time-stamped record of their data tied to blockchains, reducing the cost and complexity of conducting audits, managing records, and complying with government regulations. n the financial services industry, Factom tools let customers build transparent accountability systems for the financial industry, helping clients build immutable records that can be synced and shar
asciilifeform: incidentally, for the two kinds of dope picked for this comparison, the packaging and distribution costs dwarf the actual cost of producing the pill
asciilifeform: of, e.g., 'depakote' vs dextraamphetamine
asciilifeform: there are no hardcoded implementations of ciphers, or hashes
asciilifeform: a 'public key' is simply a snippet of code for this 'computer'
asciilifeform: the - presently nameless - pgptron - is simply an emulator for a very simple but imaginary computer which performs arbitrary arithmetic on bignums.
asciilifeform: 'I don't care if your language lawyers tell you gcc is right. THIS WILL CAUSE PEOPLE TO GET HACKED.' << this is not hundred percent idiotic. the c programming language is specified in such a way, with sufficiently pervasive 'undefined behaviours' and nonstandardized but inescapable routines, that it is ~physically impossible~ to program in it as-specified
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2015#1298580 << i dun get it. why there has to be a 'pack' of whatever sort, why not simply nuke the idiot xml rpc thing once and for all ?
asciilifeform experimented with erlang at great length, on multiple occasions, but cannot bring himself to use it for anything on the battlefield because 1 ) ONE IMPLEMENTATION and 2) IT DOES NOT FIT IN HEAD
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2015#1298593 << mega-essay, recommended to everyone who is interested in salvaging what little of worth remains in this whole 'computing' thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa, 'severance' typically means a lump sum of usd. 'unemployment' is something quite else (financed partly by a tax on the employer, partly by state, it is a meagre pension that one draws for precisely so long as one remains Officially unemployed.)
ascii_field: the real question is why did they need 4200 employees ?!
ascii_field: labeled 'temple.'
ascii_field: there is no temple.
ascii_field: or shall i simply post the latter.
ascii_field: '...so the room would be empty!'
ascii_field: but this is no more and no less astonishing than when, e.g., ibm ceased to build computers
ascii_field: something like the reason why the church never countenanced the various attempts to weigh the dying to learn the mass of escaping soul, etc
ascii_field: 'i'm on arsebook, but i have a brain!' 'good work, now arsebook can say, 'some of our users have brains!'' lubing up the chumpatronic intake hopper.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2015#1297760 << this is the basic vampirism on which the 'sv' huckster set lives.
asciilifeform: in fact, at this point if i had to choose whether to spend the rest of my days in the close warm company of cockroaches, XOR with c++ - would likely pick the former..
asciilifeform is not an mpex user and feels entirely free to issue traditional, expir-dated keys
asciilifeform: (who is sandberg? what is jezebel? what happens in 'access hollywood'? and, more importantly, what do i gain from trying to figure this out...?)
ascii_field: as presently implemented.
ascii_field: the flip side of this is that civil-death-by-dint-of-key-compromise will become a thing.
ascii_field: nubbins`: this was an ancient thread. mircea_popescu explained that if people could update keys of mpex account, it would become practical to sell 'secondhand'
ascii_field: because 1) he would have to send a shuttle to his orbital station to swap out the ROM with the old key 2) people could sell mpex accounts!!111111
ascii_field: (at mpex)
ascii_field: what would happen? cpu overheats from attempting gluttony and lust at same time ?
ascii_field: any other policy, not my place, I am pointing out that doing it the way it's done protects the 1% by letting the Aspirational 14%-- who crave recognition and are easily identifiable and hatable because they are poseurs, just of a different kind-- act as human shields. They take the bullets, the unknown mega-rich take tinted window rides to the Hamptons.'
ascii_field: 'Here's the other side's example: when they talk about raising taxes on the rich, why do they pick a "low" point and push it higher? Should the highest rates be at $250k/yr? $300k? Another way of doing it, which is precisely why they cannot do it, is start at the top and move down. "We need $1T. Ok, top five guys pay 90%. Not enough? How about top ten guys pay 90%. Not enough? Top...." I'm not advocating this or
ascii_field: because we discard, or emplace, axioms, based on whether we get timecube or skyscraper.
ascii_field: i'm prepared to explain re: the pubkeys, it is really very simple
ascii_field: where nothing of any value or import was 'retail-mechanized'
ascii_field: just like computing stalin's rent.
asciilifeform: afaik this was not a case of 'freedom to experiment' but of imprisonment
asciilifeform: mega-example
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: notice that i did not say 'exterminate people who didn't graduate in maths.' i said 'what if people had freedom of association.' the example give was, well, an example.
asciilifeform: we're designing a residential complex, and trying to keep out destructive lumpens
asciilifeform: for comparison, therealbitcoin is < 700kB
asciilifeform: (actually i can. it was... winblowz compatibility. of course.)
asciilifeform: this is the kind of thing i was afraid of when first contemplating automating any of this
asciilifeform: my other thought was that it is even possible that both variants used physically-identical components and the cheaper one was somehow crippled in software.
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, today i went into a shop and saw a type of chumpatronic contrivance for which i do not know the name:
asciilifeform: intimidation of chumps, as in 'lie detector', will take care of two thirds of the 'patients'
asciilifeform: as it is, western/non-orc bureaucrats use ceremonial language dating to a time when cooperation was a (comparatively) voluntary thing
asciilifeform did not link it as example of good writing, no.
asciilifeform: https://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/WhyIWrotePGP.html << for completeness.
asciilifeform: nor is anything else about the current implementation (what is signed is IN ALL CASES a sha1 of the key-to-be-signed) sane.
asciilifeform: this ~could~ be implemented sanely, but the traditional implementation - where the new key is accepted silently - is not it.
asciilifeform: but i also recall a recent attempt by orcs to flood into ft, that was checked by force of arms
asciilifeform: eh that's one's a crock of shit in 10,001 ways. it is in all sense compulsory for a serf to live in the grounds to which he is bound
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2015#1296129 << i must disagree here. the design was brain-damaged in several important ways from day 1
ascii_field: http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/07/amazon-launches-snowball-a-rugged-storage-appliance-for-importing-data-to-aws-by-fedex << lulzy. calls to mind the 'bandwidth of a boeing full of tape' ancient wisdom.
asciilifeform: 'Given that we are expecting to soon switch from RSA to ECC for improved security and that the current base of OpenPGP implementations supporting ECC is quite small, I would recommend not to allow a second fingerprint format for v4 keys but to bind a new fingerprint format to a v5 key packet version.' << who the fuck is 'we' ?!
asciilifeform: 'While I focused myself on the technical side of mining and over time found it very difficult to keep up-to-date even with this narrow sub-topic, DaT always seemed capable of following any development in the bitcoin world. Take a look at his essay supporting block-size increase as an example of his contribution.' << mega-l0l
asciilifeform: no mega-shocking result - pgp is not a magical fountain of phree-energy-style 'trust from the aether', but rather an amplifier of trust established - to some extent - in the meat.
asciilifeform: and this still is predicated on an assumption, to date unproven, that rsa sig operation is not malleable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://github.com/coruus/cooperpair/tree/master/pgpv4 << contains, iirc, example of collision
ascii_field: 'Concretely, we estimate the SHA-1 collision cost today (i.e., Fall 2015) between 75K$ and 120K$ renting Amazon EC2 cloud computing over a few months.'
asciilifeform: i picked the thing up because - like a total chump - i saw 'carl zeiss' on the chassis
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doesn't work so well with vm and emulators, which stupidly pump video buffer straight from emulated winblowz
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: here is a classic historic example of such a design: http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/6334
ascii_field: all of it maximally proprietary, without exception - microshit-based, and having 'compile times' measured in weeks or months
ascii_field: but it is important to understand the sheer magnitude of the first counterfactual here.
ascii_field: su actually had competing suppliers, and sometimes entire supply chains, for things.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu actually worked some magic to try scoring a sample board but nothing came of it.
ascii_field: for all i know, it is a '90s-style chumpatron like the last elbrus !
ascii_field: it is not even about complexity.
ascii_field: the reason why the decay is at its most cartoon-coloured visible in computing, is that it is the most inherently centralized industry in existence
ascii_field: you can't buy a truck without plastic in it, and computerized ignition, either.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: this kind of thing began in 1960-70s, where 'why did this computer end up in su' became a thing
ascii_field: (functions only if you use the ubuntu kernels and never attempt to so much as rebuild)
ascii_field: because it enables a host of sc4mz0rz to peddle 'linux-compatible!!1!!!11' crud that is entirely not
asciilifeform: gotta wake up for a few min. every day to pump the sap
asciilifeform did a long tour of duty in empirical lab bio at u.s. nih while a schoolboy
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at any rate, 'plausible synthesis' has a rough meaning. ask PeterL perhaps to explain in detail. but yes, synthetic vitamin B was a nobel. beyond a certain point of complexity, one tries to harness living things to crap out the goods
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had a db from u.s. national cancer institute of a few million plausibly-synthesizable compounds, largely of unknown effect (never organizedly fed to any living thing)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sure. usg did not build on empty space
asciilifeform: it is hemp in approximately the same sense that a chihuahua is a wolf
asciilifeform: thing is, dope in usg (and 'international treaties' as they presently exist are ~pure~ usgtronics) is not about dope, but about empire. if tomorrow no one wanted to snort coke, something else (can you say warez?) takes its place as excuse to feed standing army of stormtroopers
asciilifeform: (phun phakt: lucent corp. still brings in $20M/yr or so... renting out rotary phones. caveat is that this figure is a few yrs old, and a substantial number of the chumps are likely to have succumbed to old age since it was last published)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: normally in usa the telco pays (in exchange for an indenture lock-in chumping)
ascii_field: as in, there ought to be no operations which result in prompts
ascii_field: mircea_popescu et al: http://habrahabr.ru/company/mosigra/blog/268211 << user interfaces in china. interesting enough to be worth the work (googletranslate if you must)
ascii_field: mircea_popescu actually got to see an example of my l337 p4ck1ng
ascii_field: 'Undeterred by diplomacy, the US squeezed off a couple of cruise missiles in the general direction of Syria, but the Russians promptly shot them out of the sky, triggering a major rethink at the Pentagon and, of course, making the US look rather silly.' << i missed this?
ascii_field: 'GPG throws a warning [3] that the message could have been modified, but other implementations do not differentiate between SE and SEIP.' << what 'other implementations' ? microshit crypto ?
ascii_field: 'The implications are, among others, that an encrypted and signed message can be stripped of its signature and modified arbitrarily, with certain restrictions, by an attacker without knowing the key.' << ahahahaha
asciilifeform: http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/navy-diversifies-ships-cyber-systems-to-foil-hackers << l0l! betcha they have win98 on one, 95 on others, NT on yet others...
asciilifeform: 'Dear students! Remember that money can solve anything! Even complicated differential equations.'
asciilifeform noticed ages ago but promptly forgot
asciilifeform used to work for an outfit that made millions simply in ensuring that this kind of snafu did not happen, for megacorp clients
asciilifeform: https://cryptome.org/dodi/2015/opnav-5510-165a.pdf >> http://dpaste.com/3MPNQHF.txt >> mega-l0l!
asciilifeform implodes into a cosmic singularity
ascii_field: someone should teach this woman about the piss-pants-for-justice campaign.
ascii_field: also 'everything is shit' is a sane and correct attitude for anyone involved in kompyooting.
ascii_field: my theory was that the bumps are from nostalgia for crappy orcish roads...
ascii_field: even without all of this, it is quite certain that ~computing~ 'is not old enough'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: re: 'camping': the thing in question is part of a campaign by just about every half-respectable usa jurisdiction to squeeze out 'trailer trash'
ascii_field: ;;later tell thestringpuller http://wiki.apache.org/stdcxx/C%2B%2B0xCompilerSupport
ascii_field: (as if there were any shortage of symptoms of this)
ascii_field: with a sort of gas sampler, even
ascii_field: thestringpuller: the committee took its sweet time lifting features from ada, functional langs (even lambdas…) etc. but does your compiler have them now ?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290758 << speaking more of modern petroeconomics than 'who is the longest historical imperial cock'
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290783 << compare cos of chainmail and conductive cloth! if the latter works against electric weapon just as well, the linked article is an advance
ascii_field: aaaand you need a Real Computer that ~has~ the port.
ascii_field: complete with part datasheets, discussion.
ascii_field: http://mail.blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/mil/photoanglo/index.html << attempt to replicate 'photoanglo' radar-illuminated theremin-style bug described in snowden papers.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2015#1290515 << this puzzle is - contrary to what is implied - entirely unrelated to public key crypto
ascii_field: nobody would amputationfetishize if it meant starvation in the gutter.