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asciilifeform got a spiffy gift from a phriend, a mouse where various pieces of the chassis can move around to fit the hand, various iron knobs. endlessly tunable thing. had no idea this existed.
asciilifeform: 'rat 9'
mitch_callahan: oh nice
mitch_callahan: I've got one of those
mitch_callahan: how do you like it?
asciilifeform: it is very neat. but, what to do with the extra buttonz !
mitch_callahan: lol
mitch_callahan: on the left, I use the 2 as forward/back
mitch_callahan: i find it helps with carpal tunnel.
phf uses
assbot: HP Optical 3 Button Mouse,usb,accessory: Electronics ... ( )
mircea_popescu: best be careful, lest at night it reassembles itself into a dulap.
asciilifeform: it already looks quite like one...
assbot: ... ( )
asciilifeform: (this is not clear from the photo, but the 'wings' are on long screws and... can move)
mitch_callahan: and you can add weights to it
phf: pretty sure that thing has a remote triggered cyanide injector. a "present" for ascii
asciilifeform: various nice touches. e.g. the wheel well goes all the way through, does not collect shit like normal mouse
mircea_popescu having homemade black forest with "alamos" chardonnay, supposedly "best seller in teh usa". it's not terribru.
asciilifeform: phf: the weights ought to be trotyl
mircea_popescu: pro tip : for the best cooler, pour mineral water in the icecream tray.
asciilifeform: phf: lulzy gadget: draws so much current that the battery has to be changed daily. it pulls out, like pistol clip, and changes places with identical, included stick, that charges in the radio receiver
assbot: New York judge blocks Paul Smith's College from changing name for $20 million gift | Inside Higher Ed ... ( )
mircea_popescu: also, god fucking help the heretics with their white shit on the black forest cake. it's devil's food in ganache, not fucking light cream ffs.
mircea_popescu: (meanwhile, substituting sour cherries + kirsch for banana slices + rum ; or caramelized pineapple and good cognac is legitimate.)
phf: kids these days with their fancy mice. back in my day we had to clean mouse balls before each quake 1 match with wet wipes
asciilifeform: l0l i still have one of those somewhere.
asciilifeform: even got a sun photodiode mouse (but misplaced the reflector!)
mitch_callahan: i remember my step mom would take that ball out as punishment. sucked.
phf: i refused to use optical mouse for a long time, because my railgun technique involved upwards swipe, that would periodically glitch out with an optical mouse and would rotate completely randomly. good times.
mircea_popescu: old optical mice were pretty shitty.
mircea_popescu: then again, old ball mice... i had a straight lines and right angles genius. because molding plastic was hard in the 80s
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phf: one of these?
assbot: ... ( )
mircea_popescu: yeah but 3 buttons
mircea_popescu: same exact button type tho, with that angle.
hanbot: mircea_popescu how many lightbulbs can you turn on at a time with that?
mircea_popescu: no because lightbulbs came after that
mircea_popescu: anyway, they had a very heavy steel ball with a thin silicone covering.
hanbot: “Online virtual currencies are clearly here to stay – no pun intended”, according to Mitch Callahan, Clearly Canadian’s Bitcoin Campaign Manager. << is that you btw, mitch_callahan?
hanbot: !up mitch_callahan
mitch_callahan: haha yep, that would be me
mitch_callahan: lots of derping, doing "merchant" stuff
mitch_callahan: pete_dushenski smacked some sense into me
hanbot: oh hey, cool.
mitch_callahan: i think those guys finally reached their goal a year later. i should have some clearly canadian to give away in the near future. i cant remember what it cost me in btc, though.
mircea_popescu: << hey BingoBoingo check out all the weird.\
assbot: Cryptsy seeking legal action against Mike Johnson | To The Moon ... ( )
mircea_popescu: is clearly canadian some sort of alcohol ?
mitch_callahan: its an old fruit flavoured beverage that was popular in the 80's and 90's
hanbot: iirc it's an alt-cola
mitch_callahan: a guy in the US bought the trademark and brought it back
mircea_popescu: ah ah i recall now yea
mircea_popescu: ironically the guy actually tried to get it on mpex, but this was back in the single digit times.\
mitch_callahan: ha, what!
mitch_callahan: he met a lot of people very quickly. iirc he had erik voorhees on the line, amongst others. bitpay was pushing it, too.
mitch_callahan: it jump started me in the space, mostly meeting people, seeing who's who. started a meetup, etc etc.
mircea_popescu: it would have been a horrible idea (as i pointed out at the time). a purely fiat business like selling fizz fits very poorly on bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: next thing you know it runs up 10k% (as it did) and you're left paying pennies to the dollar to your investors, IN SPITE of having done a great job.
mitch_callahan: it was those price movements that got them all paranoid, too and they stopped mentioning btc.
mitch_callahan: man im surprised through his research he ended up chatting with you
mitch_callahan: good on him
mitch_callahan: in the early days, if one looked up bitcoin, one would find mpex shortly thereafter
mitch_callahan: I discovered mpex about 2 minutes after i discovered bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: not that different today really.
mitch_callahan: piles of shit on top
mircea_popescu: well depends on what is meant by research, of course
mircea_popescu: so i guess.
mitch_callahan: true story
mitch_callahan: this is relatable to the google talk earlier
mitch_callahan: one day mircea_popescu, you crossed my mind. i visualized a bunch of shapes collapsing in on themselves. it was the universe eating itself.
mitch_callahan: i read the logs a few weeks later and it's what cazalla describes as the bitcoin hole I'm guessing
mitch_callahan: anyhow, I need to rest. night everyone.
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deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] “Is this corn-free?” -
BingoBoingo: << Best I can tell Coinfire has friends in Law Enforcement, or is a Law enforcement guided OP
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2015 04:40:28; mircea_popescu: << hey BingoBoingo check out all the weird.\
BingoBoingo: re: Ball Mice. While they were a thing I don't remember a time "castration" wasn't a prank that plagued public computer labs.
mircea_popescu: you think hangout ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, they seem pretty derpy.
BingoBoingo: Law Enforcement generally seems derpy.
BingoBoingo: And I mean... They go quiet when they get legal papers, as in their GAW reporting where it seemed they actually had law enforcement reports
mircea_popescu: hm.\
mircea_popescu: it certainly is a theory.
mircea_popescu: would at least fit some more bizarre patterns observed.
BingoBoingo: It's not a drunk theory. Came into it while walking tonight.
BingoBoingo: They've got some awfully fucking bizarre patterns
BingoBoingo: It's just very bizzare the particular way that they suck, yet still seem to get the information
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: and yet their bizarro PR is very consistent with "one derpy dude"
mircea_popescu: all sorts of readily self-contradictory grandstanding and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: it could be bitpay.
mircea_popescu remembers that time when kyle torpey was it posted an article begging for something or the other and then michael derp came in and beleeted it and made a lengthy "full responsibility"-flavoured nonsensepost.
BingoBoingo: Could be. Fuck it could be one derpy dude workin in Law enforcement and their 5% time project
BingoBoingo: * mircea_popescu remembers that time when kyle torpey was it posted an article begging for something or the other and then michael derp came in and beleeted it and made a lengthy "full responsibility"-flavoured nonsensepost. << Those were some lulz
BingoBoingo: !up Zuardi
Zuardi: \o/
davout: <<< aka "no you don't need a fucking magic wand to go to school"
assbot: Logged on 07-10-2015 17:20:17; mike_c: but still, just put your goddamn pants on so we can go to the park.
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davout: <<< why? because 8 bits?
assbot: Logged on 07-10-2015 22:24:07; ascii_field: because you cannot blockchain on it.
assbot: Gerald Davis aka DeathAndTaxes of BitSimple and Tangible Cryptography ... ( )
BingoBoingo: davout: Because slow
davout: "I was very well aware of the involved risk, but at the same time I felt it is not worse than putting my coins into pre-orders of mining equipment or into doubious bitcoin companies. After being defrauded and betrayed by so many, my hope was straight and simple: if there is one person to remain honest, it must be DaT - if he did not, it was time to leave this community." <<< win
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Naphex: mircea_popescu: yep; i'm waiting for a mail from him should come later on today
davout: <<< lulzy
assbot: Uber accuse son principal concurrent d'espionnage ... ( )
davout: uber leaves keys on github repo, complains it gets raped
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punkman: << I can barely keep regular mouse clean, I wonder how dirty I'd make this in a week
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2015 04:04:25; asciilifeform:
punkman: (also couple MadCatz things I bought (long ago) barely worked and didn't last long)
punkman: I should probably look for a dishwasher-safe mouse
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punkman: << what kind of stupid shit is this now
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2015 01:44:12; BingoBoingo: << In other news Google struggles to get up to qntra's mobile friendly design
assbot: ... ( )
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assbot: [openpgp] New fingerprint: to v5 or not to v5 ... ( )
davout: "This gained us the benefit of having a bijective connection between fingerprint and key." <<< lolwut
punkman: from same thread: "If Collision attacks become viable for SHA-1 fingerprints, then they would probably also become viable for subkeys as well, and it might be possible for an attacker to generate a subkey with a collision for the cross-certifying signature, and be able to graft a false subkey onto a master key with a SHA-1 signature, which would definitely be a key compromise."
jurov: davout i guess because it can either hardly fit whole block into addressable memory and/or do ecdsa fast enough
davout: jurov: i'd say it's the former (hence 8 bits) that makes it 'impossible', instead of simply 'impractical'
davout: punkman: that would be pretty fucking serious indeed
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punkman: nice list of bugs
assbot: [openpgp] OpenPGP Armor Message specification ... ( )
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cazalla: "It is not compulsory to live in Australia, if you find Australian values are, you know, unpalatable, then there's a big wide world out there and people have got freedom of movement," Mr Turnbull said.
cazalla: but they stop the same muslims from leaving australia to go fight with isis
cazalla: <<< something is off, i'm sure you remember the claims of 30k traffic per day or whatever it was
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2015 06:50:40; BingoBoingo: << Best I can tell Coinfire has friends in Law Enforcement, or is a Law enforcement guided OP
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davout: <<< "we mean what we say until it's actually time to mean what we say"
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2015 11:59:36; cazalla: but they stop the same muslims from leaving australia to go fight with isis
asciilifeform: 'While I focused myself on the technical side of mining and over time found it very difficult to keep up-to-date even with this narrow sub-topic, DaT always seemed capable of following any development in the bitcoin world. Take a look at his essay supporting block-size increase as an example of his contribution.' << mega-l0l
asciilifeform: << lulzy, full of roaches
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2015 11:04:22; punkman:
asciilifeform: 'Given that we are expecting to soon switch from RSA to ECC for improved security and that the current base of OpenPGP implementations supporting ECC is quite small, I would recommend not to allow a second fingerprint format for v4 keys but to bind a new fingerprint format to a v5 key packet version.' << who the fuck is 'we' ?!
asciilifeform: << entirely ~not~ because 8 bits.
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2015 08:24:47; davout: <<< why? because 8 bits?
asciilifeform: contrary to popular belief, you ~can~ address as much ram as you want on an 8-bit machine, using bank-switching
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: Death and Taxes used to be reputable.
thestringpuller: Until the state of VA came and shut down his business.
thestringpuller: he's been acting funny ever since then
asciilifeform: z80 box won't keep the blockchain ~only~ on account of slow instruction clocl.
asciilifeform: *clock
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: see mircea_popescu's article
thestringpuller: ;;google DeathAndTaxes
gribble: Gerald Davis is wrong. Here's why. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea ...: <>; Bitcoin Power Rangers - Trilema: <>
asciilifeform: it
thestringpuller: i wonder if a bitcoin company will call itself triangle in the future
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punkman: << example for readers
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2015 13:39:55; asciilifeform: contrary to popular belief, you ~can~ address as much ram as you want on an 8-bit machine, using bank-switching
assbot: Linux on an 8-bit micro? - Dmitry Grinberg ... ( )
thestringpuller: "uARM is certainly no speed demon. It takes about 2 hours to boot to bash prompt ("init=/bin/bash" kernel command line). Then 4 more hours to boot up the entire Ubuntu ("exec init" and then login). Starting X takes a lot longer. The effective emulated CPU speed is about 6.5KHz, which is on par with what you'd expect emulating a 32-bit CPU & MMU on a measly 8-bit micro. Curiously enough, once booted, the system is somewhat usabl
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mircea_popescu: cazalla> but they stop the same muslims from leaving australia to go fight with isis << part of australia's values is hypocrisy. problem ?
mircea_popescu: !up dexx
mircea_popescu: lost yer key ?
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> '[derpage snipped]' << who the fuck is 'we' ?! << i think you know who the fuck is "we".
mircea_popescu: them.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> z80 box won't keep the blockchain ~only~ on account of slow instruction clocl. << peeps gotta understand that there's really nothing magical about longer numbers. if your computer can add bits, it can add 64 of them also. which is how we were doing arbitrary precision math on the z80, too.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin puts a time limit on it, of course, but that's all. hence the clock issue.
thestringpuller: time is always against us
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: so looking into the deathandtaxes he was "running a business" in the unknown interim to replace his bitcoin4cash business or whatever
thestringpuller: the first one wasn't compliant but I think he applied for a fed license and he started acting weird after that.
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dexX7: mircea_popescu: i didn't know how i can voice myself with a different nick
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: << ~you can~ scoop out the ocean with a tea cup, was the point. but not in time for anything.
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2015 14:29:58; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> z80 box won't keep the blockchain ~only~ on account of slow instruction clocl. << peeps gotta understand that there's really nothing magical about longer numbers. if your computer can add bits, it can add 64 of them also. which is how we were doing arbitrary precision math on the z80, too.
assbot: Talos Intel - Talos 2015 0035 ... ( )
BingoBoingo: "MiniUPnP Internet Gateway Device Protocol XML Parser Buffer Overflow"
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: we expelled it from bitcoin for a reason.
BingoBoingo: yeah
ascii_field: btw 'talos' is a cheap front for burning old nsa holez
ascii_field: see, e.g., their 'cisco struck a blow against hackerz!1111' idiocy
thestringpuller: foundation's client has removed miniupnp?
ascii_field: thestringpuller: one of the first things shot in the head
ascii_field: ben_vulpes did this one >>
assbot: Logged on 25-10-2014 23:34:30; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: << i believe this excises all upnp mentions. my build hops on the network and downloads blocks.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 i'm not even sure how it works. possiubly not.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> btw 'talos' is a cheap front for burning old nsa holez << word.
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
punkman: ahaha
assbot: Four more carmakers join diesel emissions row | Environment | The Guardian ... ( )
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asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: << lulzy. calls to mind the 'bandwidth of a boeing full of tape' ancient wisdom.
assbot: Amazon Launches Snowball, A Rugged Storage Appliance For Importing Data To AWS By FedEx | TechCrunch ... ( )
ascii_field: << from same fishwrap.
assbot: ‘Smart Menstrual Cup’ Looncup Deciphers Your Flow | TechCrunch ... ( )
ascii_field can't wait for the remote expl0itz for these ^
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assbot: ... ( )
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punkman: "Volkswagen detects when your tests are being run in a CI server, and makes them pass." hue
assbot: auchenberg/volkswagen · GitHub ... ( )
assbot: In Progress: The CIA's network of investments - LittleSis ... ( )
assbot: How both TCP and Ethernet checksums fail ( ... ( )
jurov: the putin pic is simply genial
BingoBoingo: Lizards need homes too
assbot: ... ( )
jurov: BingoBoingo: the link does not work
jurov: in firefox
assbot: ... ( )
jurov: ok, original does
BingoBoingo: Yeah, something went wrong, usually makes good pages. Posted archive link before completley scraped
BingoBoingo: Just... The odd shit lizards say they look at when deciding on a home
punkman: "The study also addressed St. Louis city's efforts to use eminent domain and relocate residents to put together a 100-acre urban site for the construction. It found that there would be "long-term beneficial effects to individuals who are relocated."
BingoBoingo: In other news, not just VW
assbot: Four more carmakers join diesel emissions row | Environment | The Guardian ... ( )
kakobrekla: related stories : VW emissions scandal is a one-off incident, says motor industry boss
BingoBoingo: lol
punkman: more putin
assbot: ... ( )
assbot: An exhibition in Hoxton today turns Vladamir Putin into Batman, Gandhi and Pele | City A.M. ... ( )
jurov: well, one is enough
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asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
assbot: Italian porn actor, Rocco Siffredi, launches ‘University of Porn’ for aspiring stars | Europe | News | The Independent ... ( )
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 517 @ 0.00466962 = 2.4142 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00458266 / 0.00462529 / 0.00467485 (1205 shares, 5.57 BTC), 7D: 0.00456956 / 0.00462269 / 0.00469879 (1736 shares, 8.02 BTC), 30D: 0.004 / 0.00466808 / 0.00492306 (5857 shares, 27.34 BTC)
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Surviving young Pantagruels: a practical guide. -
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ag3nt_zer0: g'afternoon...
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mircea_popescu: !up Bingo_VACAY
Bingo_VACAY: So many SPORTS this weekend
Bingo_VACAY: Also potential gawker media tears
Bingo_VACAY: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Really artificial nipples? What happened to good old pig ears
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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Bingo_VACAY: Gotta give the royal baby the best
Bingo_VACAY: Dayum that was a lotto s.mpoe
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assbot: ... ( )
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pete_dushenski: ;;later tell bingoboingo pig ears ? never heard of this. must be some kinda gentile trick ;)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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pete_dushenski: and royal sir baby henry or whatever his name is, niko is not. my kid's pretty much a worm until he proves otherwise.
pete_dushenski: a cute worm. a giant worm. but a worm.
pete_dushenski: s/henry/george
pete_dushenski: bingoboingo and even a pig ear is still an artificial nipple. not artificial in the sense of it being plastic, but in the sense of it being attached to a real woman's tit. so there's that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119700 @ 0.00049076 = 58.744 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: << independent test numbers are already cropping up. "fixed" cars are ~10% slower in 0-60mph AND have ~10% worse fuel economy.
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2015 00:28:54; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Basically turns 2015 awesome diesels into 1980's diesels
pete_dushenski: you'd basically have to be mentally retarded to take your vw/merc/mazda/anygoddamdiesel in to the dealership for any of the upcoming recalls. they WILL neuter your car and cost you money.
pete_dushenski: and there's really no guarantee that the dealership wouldn't surreptitiously "fix" your ride even if you went in for something as innocuous as an oil change.
pete_dushenski: basically, visiting a dealership for maintenance has become a legal and fiscal liability.
pete_dushenski: not sure how this will play out for cars under warranty, but for cars off-warranty, the decision to use an independent shop has never been more clear cut
pete_dushenski: << unless 'phone' camera, this is sop. just another reason kids like their swiss army knife iDiddles.
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2015 00:55:27; mircea_popescu: man who the fuck was the bright mind that made the camera usb connector not also charge the camera while connected.
cazalla: hey pete_dushenski, know much about car insurance?
pete_dushenski: a bit. shoot.
pete_dushenski: << tesla = ZiL ftr.
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2015 00:58:54; BingoBoingo: "Establishment Motors introduces an all-wheel-drive crossover with three rows of seating. It features the exact same drivetrain as the Establishment Motors sedan, a car that has gone nearly unchanged since 2012, along with almost-identical exterior and interior styling. As shown, $143,000." << I called it:
cazalla: so i had a car accident like 6 weeks ago, young chick merges into my lane, does a bunch of superficial damage, lodge claim and gotta take it to panelbeaters on monday for a quote.. but given the car is 20 years old, i'd rather a cash settlement than the car having the damage fixed.. insurance company is open to the idea once i've got the quote done which i would gauge around $1,500 given the chick damaged 3 sections
cazalla: i was gonna ask for a ball park figure of 2/3 of the quote, what do you think?
pete_dushenski: << stalin with 'tesla' of the day
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00048025 = 9.653 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: cazalla why not ask for 100% and negotiate from there if need be ?
cazalla: i guess i was trying to be reasonable but i like your idea better now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85400 @ 0.0004806 = 41.0432 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: the worst that can happen is they say "no"
pete_dushenski: but that's more information that you have now
pete_dushenski: so yea, give'r and report back
cazalla: will do
pete_dushenski: << curiously, this padding of books is already happening at that usg electric car company that's never made a profit to date. r&d staff have been shed and have headed to... apple.
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2015 01:35:13; asciilifeform: << without having to perform any necromancy or wield crystal ball, i can tell you how it will go - precisely like the pharma pain of 1990s-present, where a corp is bought (present-day monsanto shares nothing at all with the monsanto that sold the first LED) - and 'useless eaters' like r&d folk are sacked to pad shareholder pockets
pete_dushenski: i don't give much credit to this 'apple car' nonsense but hey, if the fag was dumb enough to do the iwatch, why not icar ?
pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.mitch_callahan.2:16e4556bb1302c8e9b84deaa606f7bca999237ba499d15b5bf5c8e3c3d6688cd
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mitch_callahan: ahhhhhh
mitch_callahan: to be voiced once again
mitch_callahan: man when my key expired I was trippin balls. losing ones voice isn't fun!
mitch_callahan: cazalla, the same thing happened to me once.. with the car. though the cost to fix it was way higher than the car's value, so it would have been written off.
pete_dushenski: mitch_callahan what do you mean 'would have been' ?
mitch_callahan: actually good question, I never got that far.
mitch_callahan: in my scenario, the guy didnt wanna go through insurance, so he didnt hesitate with a cash settlement
mitch_callahan: would have been = insurance wouldnt have fixed the car, rather give me some cash, i think.
cazalla: mitch_callahan, well this is actually through the insurance company but i assume they'll just pass the info on to the driver and she'll cough up the cash settlement if they agree.. maybe insurance company does it, nfi
mitch_callahan: lol
mitch_callahan: how bad is the visual damage ?
cazalla: but my run about is worth maybe 2500 AUD, it is mechanically fine, just looks shit
cazalla: she scratched the fuck out of the rear passenger, back of the bumper bar and above the bumper bar near petrol tank hole
mitch_callahan: anything fall off ?
cazalla: nope, was peak hour traffic so only going like 40 km/ph, nfi why she even merged, sorta lucky i didn't see her or i might've reacted by swerving
pete_dushenski: cazalla
assbot: Surviving young Pantagruels: a practical guide. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( )
cazalla: just wait until you start finding a hand peaking out the top
pete_dushenski: that was weeks ago already !
pete_dushenski: "Titanium- or kevlar-reinforced weaves are recommended for true Pantagruels." << not entirely a joke.
cazalla: next time around i don't think i'd bother with swaddling and just go straight for the sleeping bag, but to each their own
pete_dushenski: << hockey has baseball beat. baseball has more players but hockey allows more punches before the fight's broken up. also, on ice !
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2015 02:44:11; BingoBoingo: Baseball, the best combat sport
pete_dushenski: << making soups this summer ?
assbot: Logged on 08-10-2015 03:31:02; cazalla: nice to sit down with a beer after shelling over 9000 broad beans
cazalla: made a bunch of spicy baked beans as a snack food but tbh, i don't think i'll bother growing broad beans again (was the first time)
cazalla: baked as in in the oven for snack food, not canned tomato baked beans
pete_dushenski: sounds tasty
cazalla: kid isn't too fancied on them either, spat them out.. that and mangoes (nfi on that one)

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