(trilema) nubbins`: srsly, bright blue text on grey bg
(trilema) nubbins`: why is the header of the website as ugly as possible?
(trilema) nubbins`: thestringpuller: tyvm, first thought-out argument i've read yet
(trilema) nubbins`: ultimate decentralization, that must be automatically good, right?
(trilema) nubbins`: maybe we should make it so a TI-83 can run a full node
(trilema) nubbins`: running a full node on a fucking pentium 1ghz like an asshole
(trilema) nubbins`: you see what i'm saying? a couple years from now you'll buy an octo-core w/ 32gb ram for $500
(trilema) nubbins`: is a 1ghz pentium too much of a burden?
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, let's put the brakes on everything so you can help "contribute"
(trilema) nubbins`: a piece of shit computer you can find in a junkyard?
(trilema) nubbins`: so what's the minimum?
(trilema) nubbins`: there needs to be a minimum, yes? an abacus is infeasible?
(trilema) nubbins`: "analog bad, digital good... or was it the other way.."
(trilema) nubbins`: "decentralization bad, centralization good"
(trilema) nubbins`: "centralization", what does it mean? can you quantify it?
(trilema) nubbins` groans
(trilema) nubbins`: so?
(trilema) nubbins`: and eventually you'll need a raspberry pi 2.0 with a 30 usd external storage medium that has 2x the capacity
(trilema) nubbins`: yes, for full nodes. do you have any idea how many people in the world don't have a "spare computer"?
(trilema) nubbins`: already this is the case
(trilema) nubbins`: eventually
(trilema) nubbins`: it doesn't
(trilema) nubbins`: it's not a lot to ask
(trilema) nubbins`: maybe you need a computer that was built after 2004 if you want to run a node
(trilema) nubbins`: nobody did :D
(trilema) nubbins`: "poor people should be able to run a node"
(trilema) nubbins`: bullshit it does
(trilema) nubbins`: "my cpu, disk space, bandwidth are still orders of magnitude more than what this requires... better pull the plug over ideological reasons"
(trilema) nubbins`: it doesn't make sensr
(trilema) nubbins`: why in the fuck would someone turn off their node over a block size increase?
(trilema) nubbins`: children with mining hardware drop off
(trilema) nubbins`: no, when diff goes high miners upgrade
(trilema) nubbins`: Apocalyptic i'm trying to figure out why everyone has their dicks in a knot about it. nobody seems to know.
(trilema) nubbins`: why precisely are we whining about block size?
(trilema) nubbins`: so there goes that argument
(trilema) nubbins`: imagine, the horror
(trilema) nubbins`: so to run a full node, you'd be expected to dick around with software a little bit and have a first-world internet connection
(trilema) nubbins`: BingoBoingo, how long did it take you to start a node from scratch as of this summer?
(trilema) nubbins`: o noes, somalia can't run a full node
(trilema) nubbins`: thestringpuller: you want to stop it?
(trilema) nubbins`: how much bandwidth does a full node chew right now?
(trilema) nubbins`: this is not unusual for a first-world country, is it?
(trilema) nubbins`: note that usa is not a first world country
(trilema) nubbins`: this is not unusual for a first-world country, is it?
(trilema) nubbins`: i've been sitting on 50mbit for a couple years now
(trilema) nubbins`: okay, sure. seems like a fair assumption
(trilema) nubbins`: nobody's talking about average internet speed increasing by 50% a year
(trilema) nubbins`: you're just throwing random numbers together in a sentence
(trilema) nubbins`: Apocalyptic it worked for bucky
(trilema) nubbins`: go1111111: do you have numbers in mind or is it just a wank?
(trilema) nubbins`: why am i asking you?
(trilema) nubbins`: BingoBoingo: okay, so when people say "bandwidth is the thing to be concerned about", do they have numbers in mind or is just a wank?
(trilema) nubbins`: how about some hard numbers? what sort of bandwidth are you guys talking about?
(trilema) nubbins`: 1TB hard drives not cheap enough for ya?
(trilema) nubbins`: what specifically is the issue
(trilema) nubbins`: my sides
(trilema) nubbins`: !down thestringpuller
(trilema) nubbins`: thestringpuller any satisfaction with usps?
(trilema) nubbins`: such comment, many vitriol
(trilema) nubbins`: "they really licensed the shit out of that logo"
(trilema) nubbins`: "cool coin, man"
(trilema) nubbins`: (C) 1935, 2013 HASBRO
(trilema) nubbins`: right?
(trilema) nubbins`: actually lame as shit irl
(trilema) nubbins`: neat indeed. pretty fuckin costly for 1oz of silver in a plastic box tho
(trilema) nubbins`: minted by -- no kidding -- the country of Niue
(trilema) nubbins`: not available to public yet, gotta screenshot
(trilema) nubbins`: 1 sec
(trilema) nubbins`: speaking of all 4 sets, the mint sent me an email
(trilema) nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> how's slotful lust ? <+asciilifeform> you of all people should know <<< my sides
(trilema) nubbins`: there's a lodge run by a french lady about 3 hours out of puerto maldonado
(trilema) nubbins`: if you float down the rio tambopata in peru they will give you a special stamp
(trilema) nubbins`: well they're gonna kill her dog, that's something
(trilema) nubbins`: "It's not that the suits fail; it's that people fail when they take it off."
(trilema) nubbins`: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/08/spanish-nurse-says-she-has-no-idea-how-she-got-ebola-as-her-family-fights-for-their-dogs-life/
(trilema) nubbins`: imagine
(trilema) nubbins`: ;;notes nubbins
(trilema) nubbins`: speeling = improtant
(trilema) nubbins`: nothing important, i hope
(trilema) nubbins`: so late
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm here for the focused dialogue
(trilema) nubbins`: passing down the fundamentals so that others may rest easy that the math they use makes sense, if you will
(trilema) nubbins`: what i studied was the branch known as "pure mathematics", which is a bit more on the esoteric side and a bit less on the practical
(trilema) nubbins`: the philosophy is a step removed, hidden within the math
(trilema) nubbins`: it's all just applied math
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah
(trilema) nubbins`: i thought it was the science of math
(trilema) nubbins`: who didn't
(trilema) nubbins`_: and ya don't get to whine
(trilema) nubbins`: heh
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm still in the money like MAD
(trilema) nubbins`: not bad
(trilema) nubbins`: hm, i wonder do they still run an EFNet server
(trilema) nubbins`: hurricane electric!
(trilema) nubbins`: Vexual costly :o
(trilema) nubbins`: turns out amazon is the air seller.
(trilema) nubbins`: 500 even seems a lot
(trilema) nubbins`: turns out mouse costumes are cheaper than billy-clubs
(trilema) nubbins`: hear the sounds they're licensed to hear
(trilema) nubbins`: for some reason
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway there was a few jackasses who wanted to buy coolio's back catalogue with btc
(trilema) nubbins`: bah fuck
(trilema) nubbins`: ;;google coolio library site:bitcointalk.org
(trilema) nubbins`: the fact that this surprises people is fucked
(trilema) nubbins`: you paid for it! it's yours!
(trilema) nubbins`: fucking of course it's okay!!!
(trilema) nubbins`: how many times have people paid me to design something, and then ask if it's okay for them to use it for X in the future
(trilema) nubbins`: people have fucked ideas about rights
(trilema) nubbins`: NATCH
(trilema) nubbins`: hundreds
(trilema) nubbins`: you know how much dick surgery made selling t-shirts?
(trilema) nubbins`: you know how much money dick surgery made selling albums?
(trilema) nubbins`: he also made more money as a producer than as an artist
(trilema) nubbins`: Vexual dre is an anomaly
(trilema) nubbins`: there's a reason leonard cohen's t-shirts cost more than his albums
(trilema) nubbins`: protip: artists don't make money selling music, they make money doing everything else related to it but that
(trilema) nubbins`: people want to capitalize the M, make it Music (tm) instead of music
(trilema) nubbins`: this harkens back to the discussion about art we had some time ago
(trilema) nubbins`: "music as a product" and "music actual humans with taste listen to" are two completely different things
(trilema) nubbins`: not so. there's a very vibrant music scene here locally as well as nationally. i can listen to this country's best music without ever listening to anything that's signed to a major label
(trilema) nubbins`: thickasthieves:so as the market becomes ultimately centralized, it's demise into decentralized pieces is inevitable, no? << uh, this already happened?
(trilema) nubbins`: she won polaris this year
(trilema) nubbins`: tanya tagaq?!
(trilema) nubbins` eyes new RAM suspiciously
(trilema) nubbins`: that was weird.
(trilema) nubbins`: wait, shit, sorry.
(trilema) nubbins`: but i've done it
(trilema) nubbins`: not much, granted
(trilema) nubbins`: i've bought music through apple
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu maybe if obama had pushed canadacare instead...
(trilema) nubbins`: did you know i can jam a dirty needle into the crook of my elbow, rub hobo cum in it, wrap it in plastic for a month, and the hospital will fix it FOR FREE?
(trilema) nubbins` shakes head sadly
(trilema) nubbins`: oh, wait, USA, right. the health thing.
(trilema) nubbins`: a raise in minimum wage is a boon for small businesses that aren't too fucking stupid or poorly managed to take advantage of it
(trilema) nubbins`: mats_cd03: you know that minimum-wage earners spend most of their raises, right?
(trilema) nubbins`: mats_cd03: it'll breathe more life into the local economy? :P
(trilema) nubbins`: min wage was raised to $10.25 here a week or two ago
(trilema) nubbins`: mats_cd03 congratulations!
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu and most aspies will be running schwartzenegger_0.9_early_beta_SiKOSiS_cracked_with_keygen
(trilema) nubbins`: alicia
(trilema) nubbins`: leeel
(trilema) nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> if only liv tyler were inhabited by stoya.
(trilema) nubbins`: sorry, low blow
(trilema) nubbins` calmly tips over king w/ pawn
(trilema) nubbins`: armageddon
(trilema) nubbins`: 't wanna close my eyes" shit
(trilema) nubbins`: how about the "don
(trilema) nubbins`: NOT featuring joe perry, but hey.
(trilema) nubbins`: didn't last
(trilema) nubbins`: heh. i had a brief fling around the time "get a grip" came out
(trilema) nubbins`: til mp is into smith
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu FWIW he fucking slayed the song
(trilema) nubbins`: very "hollywood"
(trilema) nubbins`: guitarist from j.a., had some success in a douchey solo career
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, imagine that asshole and dave navarro on a stage together
(trilema) nubbins`: joe perry, that's it.
(trilema) nubbins`: right?!
(trilema) nubbins`: joe somebody?
(trilema) nubbins`: so they got whoever the fuck plays guitar in aerosmith instead
(trilema) nubbins`: but the old bastard broke his brittle elbow
(trilema) nubbins`: i saw jane's addiction a few years ago. they were supposed to have steven tyler come out to play guitar for "jane says"
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu -_-
(trilema) nubbins`: all's well
(trilema) nubbins`: ;;ud jazz cigarette
(trilema) nubbins`: hm, i wonder...
(trilema) nubbins` tips hat, lights jazz cigarette
(trilema) nubbins`: mooooprints
(trilema) nubbins`: !s hard fork
(trilema) nubbins`: welcome to the asymmetric future
(trilema) nubbins`: "given that the american senator had pornography on his computer, the glorious kingdom of saudi arabia hacked into his computers without compunction, as any such 'hack' would simply have constituted a search of foreign property known to contain criminal evidence, for which a warrant was not necessary"
(trilema) nubbins`: just catching up
(trilema) nubbins`: what the fuckin fuck?
(trilema) nubbins`: "Given that the SR Server was hosting a blatantly criminal website, it would have been reasonable for the FBI to 'hack' into it in order to search it, as any such 'hack' would simply have constituted a search of foreign property known to contain criminal evidence, for which a warrant was not necessary."
(trilema) nubbins`: who wouldn't?!
(trilema) nubbins`: heavens ripped open, etc etc, john had a bit of concern over it all
(trilema) nubbins`: iirc the guy was baptized
(trilema) nubbins`: did he die a jew, tho?
(trilema) nubbins`: +1 hey?
(trilema) nubbins`: check the "read the full email" link just below the picture of the red viking guy
(trilema) nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/trinity-western-grad-attacked-for-being-christian-in-job-rejection-1.2791323
(trilema) nubbins`: shoes
(trilema) nubbins`: the lasagne took like ten of them
(trilema) nubbins`: actually, i don't know if i have any eggs left.
(trilema) nubbins`: would precum work?
(trilema) nubbins`: but i'm almost out of oil :(
(trilema) nubbins`: now you know
(trilema) nubbins`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzo_pornography#mediaviewer/File:Wiki-POV-pornography.png
(trilema) nubbins`: mayo's not sticky enough
(trilema) nubbins`: we're trying to stick to beef here
(trilema) nubbins`: who said anything about food?
(trilema) nubbins`: Vexual room-temp-cure silicone
(trilema) nubbins`: feels unusually stiff inside the package
(trilema) nubbins`: i have some sugru but i think it's expired.
(trilema) nubbins`: how about alba-tac?
(trilema) nubbins`: i've got a variety of adhesives we can use
(trilema) nubbins`: "this, sadly, is another thing you can do with those tomatoes :("
(trilema) nubbins`: ex little producer
(trilema) nubbins`: 9h after that, eating lasagna: "this is another thing"
(trilema) nubbins`: 24h later, eating moose/pork/tomato ravioli w/ cod and veg: "this is one thing you can do with those tomatoes"
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway this all started with "i wonder what i can do with these roma tomatoes"
(trilema) nubbins`: and dogs
(trilema) nubbins`: *closer
(trilema) nubbins`: caribou might be closert
(trilema) nubbins`: moose is like a spicy/stringy beef
(trilema) nubbins`: never tried deer
(trilema) nubbins`: generally you hit a moose, it ends up in your lap
(trilema) nubbins`: heh thickasthieves knows how they're shaped
(trilema) nubbins`: nah my mom is from "the bay", we get all the moose we want for free
(trilema) nubbins`: ground it ourselves tho!
(trilema) nubbins`: moose, in fact
(trilema) nubbins`: HEH
(trilema) nubbins`: but yeah. pasta, sauce, meat, all of it from scratch
(trilema) nubbins`: had to slow-roast the tomatoes in the oven overnight
(trilema) nubbins`: the prep work was done the day before
(trilema) nubbins`: 9 hours later we'd made homemade mayo, lasagna from scratch, a full shoulder of pulled pork, fresh ravioli, pan-seared cod...
(trilema) nubbins`: i had these roma tomatoes and i wondered aloud "what can i make with these?"
(trilema) nubbins`: and MAN can this guy fuckin cook
(trilema) nubbins`: new roomie gets a job there 2 days after he moves in
(trilema) nubbins`: so there's this restaurant here, RAYMONDS, and it's been voted the top restaurant in canada a number of times by a number of different publications who feel it's in their power to dish out such an award
(trilema) nubbins`: that's a lotta text
(trilema) nubbins`: i think it was a good idea letting this guy move in
(trilema) nubbins`: actually this reminds me, roomie made mayo from scratch the other day
(trilema) nubbins`: but wouldn't all the egg just preserve everything nicely?
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu i guess everyone figured you had the answers
(trilema) nubbins`: once i figure out a food-based emulsion i'm going to start screening jam on my sandwiches
(trilema) nubbins`: wish there was more video ;/
(trilema) nubbins`: Vexual in the meantime, sick article about silkscreening touchscreens
(trilema) nubbins`: not with his hair in his eyes
(trilema) nubbins`: drummer looks about 9
(trilema) nubbins`: i suspect these guys are just hanson with some hair dye
(trilema) nubbins` claps softly
(trilema) nubbins`: i had an idea that we'd have a newfoundland-based Who cover band called The Wha?
(trilema) nubbins`: also no joke
(trilema) nubbins`: no joke
(trilema) nubbins`: (they cover rhcp AND zeppelin, natch)
(trilema) nubbins`: "up next: led hot zilli peppers"
(trilema) nubbins`: "up next: pistols & flowers"
(trilema) nubbins`: heh thickasthieves that's the idea
(trilema) nubbins`: maybe next year they'll get william hung
(trilema) nubbins`: and so at the end of the day, the town is out half a mill
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, attendance this year was about 1/3 of last year, when they ran out of water.
(trilema) nubbins`: well, y'know, rightly so.