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(ossasepia) diana_coman: yeah, unlikely to help much
(ossasepia) diana_coman: can't solve it all, indeed
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, choose your year carefully; and everything else you get to choose, for that matter, I suppose.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but could have just asked dad to not reply in/to anything other than that; and then see how it goes, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: wouldn't that be good, too!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: there I can't advise, but otherwise from practical experience the way to learn a language is to need it as in not have any other choice of being understood/understanding anything; works wonders!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: according to MP though it's women you want to spend time with to learn languages not own dad; maybe that's why it lasted for only 2 lessons, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: eh, with languages it gets easier after the 10th or so (as I've been helpfully told when I was a kid - but it's true!)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: why did you do them to start with?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, as I don't know your dad, I can't evaluate in any way what two lessons mean in that context
(ossasepia) diana_coman: one different language every day and that will surely take care of all and any conversation, too!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: maybe I should do the Romanian Thursdays, huh
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, can always add "learn a language" to the list, why not
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (and no, nothing bad with cheese twists in general, except ahem, taste one day some freshly made ones with sourdough too and then see if those M&S ones are all that great anymore, that was all)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, sounds like a reasonably balanced...diet; can even add the cheese twists then!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: aha, that's the point, proving the first step and then basically the fact that it's a chain
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: you know, it's...Wednesday, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: needs a new battery to start ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: what's next on your list now that the 2 articles are done and published?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: how's the health insurance quest going?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: you know, MP is right re that article being for sure the better ref (and possibly of more interest to you too).
(ossasepia) diana_coman: rather as expected re the few players, indeed.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: evidence* not evident
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sure, in school grades at any exam will follow gauss (unless cheating) but competence is a different thing
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'd be rather hard pressed to find evident it isn't; but I admit I haven't really bothered much to fit a curve to anything
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: well, that's if you credit a gauss curve to start with; can get even worse otherwise, heh
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as eulora's motd insists: your worst enemy always slept in the same bed as you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: nor much running, whatever the running might be about.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so if you only ever do the "run to be better than them", it's not much effort probably, no
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, average people tend to be bad at ~everything,not only poker, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: don't use that old selection mechanism with # as it's not working properly - what gets selected (if anything) depends on the browser (+it requires javascript anyway...); there's a better way, as described here: http://trilema.com/2019/proper-html-linking-the-crisis-the-solution-the-resolution-conclusion/
(ossasepia) diana_coman: follow the thread there.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: here's that question already answered in the logs; apparently you need to read even more recent logs!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: pretty much.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, there probably won't be much remaining after all this, I can't quite see where/how/on what would all the theatres survive anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: the "fast line" they keep advertising is a slower line really, lol; there's just direct train reading-paddington, takes half hour or a bit less even.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: exactly so; and btw, it's faster to get to central London from Reading than from some parts of London!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: btw, that was part of "why England" or rather "why close to London" - to be able to go to a theatre play, the opera, a musical, a show, *something other than apple orchards and hiking*, lolz.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: I kind of had that sort of setup in Italy really - great nature (and weather!!) and otherwise yes, had where to buy stuff without any trouble; the thing was that after a few wonderful years of that, I'd rather have moved to honest woods - because yes, can buy food and cloths and books; can't go though to a show worth anything unless going 4 hours and crossing the border sort of thing.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: neah, it's a proper brick house and not wall-connected either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but anyway, yeah, not the sort of thing where one hears anything either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman notes that both neighbours are 90+ so no noise at all !
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: it depends what you consider there as part of those surroundings.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, here I'm on the outskirts-towards-countryside of a town that is extremely well connected (it's a sort of hub re trains and biggish airports around); while I didn't know it initially, it turned out that I'm also quite close to the "posh countryside" for whatever that does; but in any case - lakes and the sort of piddly woods that this flattish land has are on my doorstep really, yes, can't complain of that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but yeah, at least so far I kind of anchored myself very well in not-woods; or so it seems.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: the thing with woods is that in such case, I'm either spoiled for choice if I look at all the globe or otherwise I'll just go back to those mountains I used to roam as a kid and I still know them in detail, know their mushrooms and their bugs and their plants and all; what do I care of the rest anyway, if it's the woods.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: heh, now in what sense are they ...ahem, european? lolz; but realise, the above is a matter of my own attachments in the end; basically the English were still to me foreign enough so that I am detached enough, familiar enough so that I can at least think (possibly entirely without any real base) that I understand any of it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: for better or for worse I have those who keep convincing me every time to NOT go to the woods!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: they always lie about the longitude!!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: I suppose I could say in short that I loved the French from a distance too much to be able to stand the current them for longer than 6 months, I had admired too much the Austrians that are there no more to stand living among the remains only, I found the Italians too Romanian and so on
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: ahaha, logger should use sundial!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: because of such a combination of factors that I'm stuck picking one each time I get that question, lol; and I could swear I answered it at least a couple of other times in the log but couldn't find it now!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: fwiw I did revist the gossipd documents and discussions - there is "time" as field indeed but it's even specifically said that yeah, up to clients how they handle mismatches/differences because ofc they can happen; in a word - sanity.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: it's not that order doesn't matter; it's the precision at that sort of level the trouble; and yeah, it was re multi-way chat; basically gossip indeed;
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I suppose some of those patisserie valerie might sort of kind of qualify at times, but ...well, they are quite continental, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hm, nice cafes in ...the UK?? good god, where have you seen such wonder?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: well, for nice cafes, I'm afraid the *only* place where they have that is...Austria! lolz
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: what are you after? (and then again - it's you the local!!)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: even of Bristol actually but I did like Bristol better at least
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (and now I realise I wrote of Cardiff but not of Bath, huh)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: then again, in fairness, I could apply that to quite a lot of places, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: I only visited it so it's not like I have the full files on it; but ...there was ~nothing I could find of interest, had this air of "it was something, once upon a time"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: aha, further away; Bath seemed rather grim to me but I can't say I tried all that hard to not-find-it-grim, lol.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: where were you looking to move to?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: I'm quite convinced it's one of those things where "precision" of the sort attempted with linenumbers is about as idiotic as it can get; it's not precise, nor can it be precise nor is there any real *need* for it to be precise really; yes, different clients might hear different lines in different order - so what of it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lol @bashful; I'll end up publishing that time when I had to tell the guys they are neither exactly 7 nor dwarves and I'm no Snow White anyway.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahahah; where did you publish that?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: that is true; and moreover, stuff you write once tends to turn out useful later on anyway (in ways you can't predict now); just stick with it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh, it's even better than that - it's ~countryside style almost; tbh I'm in quite close-to-countryside area anyway, but now with almost no cars and very little noise, all birds and everything else is taking over; I won't complain of it either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: in fairness, I should take some fresh photos with all this perfectly blue sky and shining sun, too
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and it was spring!!111 lolz
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: that blank page resistance is real, yes; it doesn't quite go fully away either but it's less bothersome with practice (and having stuff to write about)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, congrats on publishing it on time! how did the writing go/
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: you know, croydon (probably all london, in fairness) sounds - as usual - worse, really; as I even documented, it was never that sort of problem around here about food, huh.
(ossasepia) diana_coman goes to read cruciform's adventure with covid
(ossasepia) diana_coman: thank you jfw, trinque, bvt for weighing in on this; I'll revisit the gossipd documents too and think of it some more but so far bvt's idea seems quite fitting to me and I can't so far see any problem with it either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (and now I'm even more puzzled than before re why linenumbers currently, ugh)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but all of it goes back to - it's enough to have the hash for the line; can then build on top of that whatever strategy to identify uniquely a line with as much precision as one considers needed.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so overall it seems to me to tend towards store lines as they are seen locally; identify by mixed-hashes within the group; can even take lines after the one sought, etc.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ie can request as many or few as one wants at one time or another
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but I guess it can even be flexible really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: bvt: that would be about the most straightforward definition of context of a line available, indeed; picking a number out of hat anyway re how many previous lines.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: note that this is at logging time, not at presentation time; hence the difference re blog is that well, blog does presentation not logging, to start with.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: the core question I had was why does logger bot bother exactly with line numbers to start with
(ossasepia) diana_coman: previous n lines
(ossasepia) diana_coman: bvt: so you mean previous lines as seen by one logger
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: when you say that the blog becomes that external provider of line identity; how does it become? it doesn't; it provides an enumeration and nothing more.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: if one simply uses truncated keccak hashes, in principle can insert anywhere and nothing changes anyway, the enumeration is separate entirely.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sure, you can choose whether you use that presentation or not but that's about it all
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: for some...context! there's no way you can somehow *mandate* that such thing is not possible, how would that be?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: bvt: question there is what exactly do you pick then as "context"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: what do you mean re addressing systems?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ... one thing at which machinery is supposedly useful.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: re links, that's no issue really because that is already presentation of the content so you can do it whichever way you want and as a separate thing from the logging itself anyway; eg the lines end up in blog articles anyway, so can simply have there counters per article, there's the whole context given anyway, not like one needs to drop the hash in the article itself; bot can recover the rest when/as needed; after all, that's ...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: well, atm "hash" means keccak as far as I'm concerned; not sure why would I introduce another one.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: your question there needs to include context to have some meaning; ie "strong" hashes exist; this doesn't mean they have to be used everywhere as such
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: I am trying to make sure it's not just my bias that makes me not see there some reason other than exactly that "ONE TRUTH AND NO DENOTATIONS ALLOWED TO EXIST EVEN IN PRINCIPLE"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: all hashes are voodoo anyway
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: what do you mean?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that's pretty much why I was saying earlier that I'm not that sure that it is a problem in itself; still, I don't really recall the reason /rationale why exactly was this linenumber mechanism pushed into current logbots.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: the point jfw makes above is that there can be lines that repeat eg on different days, aka not just a matter of "which one made it in first"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'll probably end up re-reading around that, yes.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the thing with external sync-token of whatever sort is exactly that it's ...external; an addition that needs justification and so far I'm not sure I can still see the full case for it.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: basically either there's sync on some external counter/similar or on the content+context, not much else as option that I can see at all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: well, even there, it can be the same client saying the same line with the same id at different times so in that sense still potential clash; what it's not yet clear to me is whether this sort of clash is in itself a problem though, hm.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: eh, not user-error, no; in this context there is no user error possible really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the obvious thing would be ofc to use context but hm.
(ossasepia) diana_coman shall ponder this some more.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, you mean as same content that just happened across the whole log rather than as above
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ie why would you want to identify them differently when they *are* the same?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lol, there is that, with the begging the question as to ..how are those lines different then?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, you mean as repeat the content
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: at the same time too?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the ordering is anyway a local matter for each bot and otherwise recoverable from any existing record if one cares enough.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: if anyone has a better idea, now's the time to speak up on it
(ossasepia) diana_coman: in other things, since I am looking again at the annoying issue with log lines and numbers and whatnots - my current thinking is to ditch that source of trouble entirely and simply use hashes for each line to identify it uniquely AND across whatever bots
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: so give it some time then.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: then it's just a matter of deciding whether it's something you can live with in exchange for not-having-to-get-gnat-too or not, pretty much; anyways, it doesn't sound like a priority-problem atm.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: eh, ~nothing's ever ideal, if it gets to that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, I had the impression you found v.pl inadequate for what you needed, in the end.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (and yes re vtools; I have it on my list for this week to also mirror it all + publish my sigs for it, as they accumulated but I never set down to publish any of them.)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: what are you using for v-pressing/work anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: but yeah, it has its own quirks for sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it does require gnat though, that's the price for using ada, true; and yes, in principle v.pl is the smaller investment route indeed
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: he fixed those issues/lacks
(ossasepia) diana_coman: heh, enjoy it then!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: btw, re following proofs - there's no "shortcut" as such, sure, but there's practice with it that can give "speed up"; no idea how used you are to that though because myeah, unless you took the "pure Maths" modules at A level, there's precious little to none proof work as such in UK schools as far as I'm aware.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, that's pretty much their whole model really - in exchange for farming *you*, they provide the easy way to *feel* like doing something; all day long; without work!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: it can be amazing how much free time one finds, once dropping various timewasters that are never missed otherwise, certainly.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lolz, I was trying to avoid that word.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: ahaha, the talk's the party and the doing's the ...afterparty?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: what are you keeping busy with otherwise nowadays? (can't *quite* believe you clean that flat to obsession all the remaining one-week-minus-half-day-time)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: exactly so.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: aha; it works ..to make more work!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: maybe that's the point! I can see the appeal there - why have it emit what you could type yourself? Let it emit original works! ART!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: aham, "default" whatevers will rarely be what you actually need for ...your specific situation; kind of the thing with "defaults" like with "average person" - it is an average but one that fits no actual, real person; anyways, there's the blockquote tag that does what you need there, so...use it;
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, you can use tags but not the full set of parameters and then anyway - how did you come with the 30px exactly? lolz; there's a reduced set of tags that will work inside comments.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: correction: the tag I uses is <blockquote>
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and you're welcome; looking forward to those articles promised for tomorrow evening, too!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: hm, html formatting does (should!) work in comments - that's how I did mine for instance (using <blockquotes>); what html tags did you try to use?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (says /me the ever optimist re discussion.)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I devoiced feedbot in here for now, so the logs-flood doesn't get in the way of discussion.
(ossasepia) diana_coman shall be back tomorrow
(ossasepia) diana_coman: there we go, should be good unless disconnected
(ossasepia) diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023427 - btw, lobbes, I guess this gets sorted today meanwhile since there wasn't even that write-up coming out nor anything and there's little point to just keep waiting like that; so cancel that server and save the money, at least.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: for that matter the above is valid for anyone else who might find it useful - lobbes, BingoBoingo, dorion, jfw, whaack
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at any rate, I'll certainly read tomorrow anything published on yh, sure
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: why so half-hearted anyway?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: at least it sounds like good fodder for the post-mortem indeed.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: cruciform: ahaha, quite a sort of... achievement!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: !!up #ossasepia cruciform
(ossasepia) diana_coman: I'll set a script to publish #o logs as daily articles on ossasepia.com ; apologies for the potential clutter of the feed until getting up to date.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: confirmed !!ledger working perfectly now, thank you.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ... bring in idiots, will negrate and it will still work I guess.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: what I wanted was this: anyone with positive ratings (>=1) from me to be able to self-voice; those with rating >2 from me to act as "lordship" or whatever ie *their* l1 to be able to self-voice too; if this is too much/complicated, I'm open to any proposal really - my idea was to give people an easy way to self-voice but not necessarily get together with any newcomer all their newcomers too; otoh can just get all and if they ...
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: cool, thanks!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: cool, thank!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: the search thing is always a contention for this to start with ie on one hand if you want to get the raw data can get it and do whatever search you want and on the other hand if it's published, I much rather it was integrated with the blog otherwise and not require me to maintain 2 things; and yes, exactly re wordpress; really, I can't see a reason for it being *yet another thing*
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: it's not wrong per se, no; but I resent being *tied to it for no good reason really* (other than "so it happened"); and given that otherwise publishing means mpwp which uses currently mysql, I see no reason to add postgres to the pile; fwiw I used both postgres and mysql otherwise, I know of die-hard supporters for both, I still don't care that much to go to war for either.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, that's the main addition there, indeed; read/write from/to arbitrary fds
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (though I would still want awk there, lol)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: that being said, I don't need that on eg. an offline machine
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ie directly, as I used for sonofawitch
(ossasepia) diana_coman: sockets are in gawk only though afaik
(ossasepia) diana_coman: as usual, it's a matter of what you are fine to do without, really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: read and find out! lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: myeah, there is that re awk & gawk (on both line count and pain if trying to stick to standard; there are also some things that pretty much require gawk; I still prefer it to python & co)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: good to hear from you; I'll give another go to deedbot's ledger later today then; is self-voicing working now for those I rated 1 or more?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, I'll be away from keyboard for a while, laters!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: more really, since it's (just like V) part of a wider whole, of course
(ossasepia) diana_coman: (won't add it now to the pile, you can find it anyway)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: there's reading on that too! :D
(ossasepia) diana_coman: trinque: btw, deedbot isn't answering to my pm !!ledger commands (sent one on the 16th and still not answered; one 2 minutes ago and still not answered)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: you'll need to register a key with deedbot before I can rate you though, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: better find them! heh; (but seriously, ONE good thing I learnt in all those years at uni was really this - to ask questions; HAD TO ASK questions, even! because yes, initially I sucked at this, totally)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: anyways, if it's not working/you don't have voice, just ask me in pm and I'll sort it out one way or another
(ossasepia) diana_coman: or hm, trinque - is this working now?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, happy reading then; I'll try to get around to give you a rating too and then you should be able to !!up yourself
(ossasepia) diana_coman: see, it's enough to start talking for a bit and then... it explodes!!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: here, I have an article for that question too: http://ossasepia.com/2019/09/02/ossabot-and-its-flask-of-python-27-on-centos-6/ (and see? that's why it's best to publish - don't need to re-tell the same thing every time one asks)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: I read the git book years ago, and I liked git better than the rest of monsters; but as that v-tree nursery article says in the very start, it's just bringing in on my systems a lot of things I have no need for, ie it's asking for too much from me for what it does
(ossasepia) diana_coman: will do it too because it's becoming unbearable but myeah, not yet done
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so no, I don't like it and I am still using it atm as I didn't get around to sink some time to excavate myself out of its shit
(ossasepia) diana_coman: re logbot though, I'll underlign that the current thing uses python and moreover it imports the nightmare called "flask" ; it forces also postgres and it ensures that you are locked in with it because yeah, if you change, you'll break everyone's links
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyway, you've got already quite the reading list there
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: kind of weird you didn't pick up on V then anyway, as it was quite central, hm (and yes, introduced on trilema.com)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and yeah, of the bunch and before realising that I can ditch it, it was git I had uncomfortably settled with, indeed
(ossasepia) diana_coman: did you read it at all?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: for how long have you been around #trilema?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: you'll need to at least run a V for those vpatches of the logbot; there's a starter pack http://ossasepia.com/2019/11/10/v-tree-and-v-starter-v2/
(ossasepia) diana_coman: fwiw I did use cvs, svn, git , even a few others and gah, I hope I never have to have one of those on a computer of mine, lol
(ossasepia) diana_coman: because hm, "open source" is a rather horribly failed experiment as such
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: do you know about V for version control?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: yeah, see on my Reference Code Shelf from my blog
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ah, there is the code published, sure; though I want to ditch that shit, ffs
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: which one?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: sure, the alternative - and even the *most usual and most common* alternative - is the ~autistic "will work on my own, no need to talk and waste all that time" and/or with added various flavours of "won't change, no matter what" ; it never really gets one anywhere, there's plenty of examples to look at, but it can *feel* very virtuous or whatever else, sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: !!up #ossasepia lru
(ossasepia) diana_coman: and in addition to that, it allows others - *useful* others - to interact with you and *help*
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: yes, there's lots of reasons for writing and of all sorts really; it starts with the fact that writing IS thinking - it forces you to structure better and it quickly shows where/what you don't master that well, in a word it's the most basic tool of intellectual life anyway
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so it's not even enough to say "finding what already existing" really; it's more "finding what is already used and maintained by people I want to work with, long term" - because you'll need to work with others if it's to add up to anything really
(ossasepia) diana_coman: well, there exist a LOT of things, that's the modern trouble; it's not "it doesn't exist" but "there's a pile to sort through and a life to sink into figuring out which of them is least broken"
(ossasepia) diana_coman: anyways, if it won you as a champion for it, still nothing wrong with writing it up and publishing that; but that's the thing - do speak up publicly for the things (and people!) you like, what.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's just inefficient and not something I want to import anywhere for the basic task of keeping track of time on tasks, ffs; awk and bash are more than enough for that.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: nothing is verboten around here
(ossasepia) diana_coman: not a million yet
(ossasepia) diana_coman: next I'll hear that "not very big" means it's ~only 100k loc!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: ahahah, just when I was typing that it sounds potentially interesting and/or at least worth writing up a review of it and publishing on your fresh blog, you drop the c++ & python, heh
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: how big is it and what does it do beyond "keep track time per task" ?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: what's the timewarrior tool?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: anyways, what are you working on otherwise, if you don't mind saying?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: can even keep it as "archive" or whatever, but no win from not keeping it, that's about it all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: the thing is this - whether it's still there or not, you still wrote it at that time and it's still part of your history; just "taking it down" doesn't win for you anything but it does come at a cost - all those broken links + no visible history at all + "that's the guy who vanishes" etc
(ossasepia) diana_coman: so link to the primary material and send readers there, what
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: so you add a big-red warning upfront "meanwhile I realised this is bullshit" or similar , sure; but leave it there, there's no harm to it, even better to have it in fact as reminder that yeah, usually that's how things go - not that straightforward as it seems otherwise.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: you know, in general, ~nothing serves "the use I originally wanted" - mainly because you can't really tell upfront like that *what* something will end up useful for; but that's a feature, not a bug!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: why take it down anyway? (and in the process break the links of anyone and everyone who linked to your writing, for that matter)
(ossasepia) diana_coman: this chan started in fact before trilema closed, it was part of tmsr; it's not a continuation of #trilema itself, no; there's the article linked from the topic giving some more details and otherwise lots to read around
(ossasepia) diana_coman: lru: do you have a site/blog/write anywhere?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: it's about learning, working efficiently and effectively with others and generally building up what you do so it grows day by day, sustainably, rather than going nowhere in a year or less.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: what brings you here?
(ossasepia) diana_coman: hi lru, it's enough to ask for voice - and then use it reasonably, that's about it all.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: !!up #ossasepia lru
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: heh, so now you know the length of your maybe half hours!
(ossasepia) diana_coman will be back tomorrow.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: sounds good then.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: how long do you think it will take to finish it?
(ossasepia) diana_coman will be back tomorrow.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: billymg: answered
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: glad you did, even if took that long.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: jfw: hope your next article includes a sketch too!
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: I did note once re your... optimism but there's a big limit to what words and notes can do on their own, for sure.
(ossasepia) diana_coman: dorion: funnily enough, those are the type of resources that grow/become more available *with use* so ..sounds like a plan
(ossasepia) diana_coman wonders at time just *what* do new people find so scary in a chan that is actually active, huh.
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