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(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol written? by people?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does the igloo2 product line have something hilariously wrong with it a la apu2?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: polyurethane
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i have one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the memory fabricator is in full swing over here. wants to say that it was a tome that fell out of a moldbug piece but i really have nfi.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the one, but that's probably not right.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: and somehow the conclusion that "most humans are barely over the cognitive threshold of a farm animal" never presents itself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can't remember who it was (byron? meep, no clue), but held that "before long, they'll be wanting rights for cats and dogs, cows and hogs"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: animal rights has been the funniest joke about progressivism since before women were even up for the franchise
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: pics?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, not particularly interested in snowflakes of ~any variety.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: noty, i think i'll stick with toyotas
(trilema) ben_vulpes: handcrafted benzo, cheap to maintain fuckinlol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: noshit.png
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aight, i'll see about this eval-ing of text from mp-supplied urls
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "my snake only works with coconut oil"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: when buying snake oil...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mid-nineties suburbans are more my style. the 3/4 ton body...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i want one that's 10 years old with plenty of dinged up body panels
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, i've heard you object to that before.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: keypress timing? :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: user ssh's into server, opens running emacs with `emacsclient -nw`
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: what i really want is a transmission that directs all power to the spinning wheel. it's spinning, that's how you know it's the one that needs the power!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahaha alf pasted a gpggram or wut
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "fuel economy" is the argument, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah non-locking rear is an odd duck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: beeping too?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what nagging pete_dushenski ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buy a set of old brittannicas and use tried and true blam tech perhaps?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: get your girl looking at SAP ads
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pollute the ingestion pipeline
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why not just use other people's accounts, adlai ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: demo of the integrated lisp development environment if you will
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fwiw i have a spiffy little minimal interactive lisp bot you can diddle the behavior of in toto from emacs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and from external attackers? or to secure your box from whatever strange is on the vps?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which "the connection"? from your machine to the bot machine?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: best i have is that woman adapts and survives and man dies broken, fighting to the last breath
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not that women can't be cowards but that cowards (unqualified) are men.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: which reminds me of a thought perhaps mircea_popescu can make better use of than i, given how it's been evading my grasp: why is it that you can have brave men and brave women, but cowards are all men?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: you know that ellipses have three dots in 'em?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: your bot is ready, i'll be online sometime after 2200 utc to hash out the details of getting your code into it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a man's work stands on its own, for everyone else there are marketing departments standing by to contribute to revenues.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you'll have a long fucking slog getting him to use finished software if he's an investor in a revolutionary online publishing platform, though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: vanilla wordpress would work.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: spiffy little chart pete_dushenski, howdja make it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: aye, that's what i've always thought. no need to waste characters on a nick when a111 does it for ya!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (do people mute highlights from a111 ?)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ^^
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it might not be so bad at that, there's one command to compile, and a single keypress to abort a failed compilation. ofc, you'll have to either edit directly in emacs (strongly recommended for parens-balancing reasons) or edit the file in something else of your choice (not recommended because no parens balancing) and then loading the file in a persistent lisp session in tmux or whatever
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think you'd get significant mileage out of it, but the cognitive overhead would probably enrage you.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lemme guess: you're ~epsilon interested in poking a running lisp process through emacs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is perhaps the one instance in the history of the world where the software schelling point might actually migrate /away/ from complexity.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate#30 << does this regular pattern of descending transaction counts to a very low number over three blocks spook anyone else?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: garden! like you said.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: barns in the 2-3 range, meatboxes same, but without truss roof
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yes i can cut, weld, seal. no big. but forge from billet? get the fuck out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more like 2.5 cost of bulk dirt if you're going to compare at the level of billet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nevermind that the retail cost for corrugated panel is going to be rather larger than that for billet which omfg cannot be bought retail
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: neglects the cost of turning brick into structural frames and walls
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "peak stuff"!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: container legos are best legos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, 1700 bucks not bad price for beefy steel frame and corrugated panels.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: us is a horrible place to live.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what build, i'm going to live out of a shipping container
(trilema) ben_vulpes: very seriously considering all sorts of very stupid things. what else is new.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: veehehehery interested in the material's load bearing capabilities too, but TEUs are literally haus duplos so...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is also http://www.masongreenstar.com/, but yes mostly considering as insulator
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you can pump it through a stucco sprayer, which i think is very fucking cool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: also i don't know who uses rmax for structural elements
(trilema) ben_vulpes: load tests are in order
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mix boric acid in
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what need have we of rmax when we can make papercrete
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol that danielkerr character
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598703 << ternary is neat and all, but have you considered implementing arc atop colorforth?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i like the notion of an anti-system
(trilema) ben_vulpes: funny, i had that thought when his photo went by in a link earlier today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cheap lesson, no harm incurred so far.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i did ask for clarification though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah i see where i misread there now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you said "online is ovh's waifu" and i said "i have nfi what that oldfag gibberish means"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: v timely, ty davout
(trilema) ben_vulpes: psa: always press your vpatches
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't know what sort of apology is due here as clearly nobody has ever even tried to apply those patches through a strict v, but i'm still going to go slam my head in a door until i get some of the stupid out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so duh, vdiff does not guarantee patches will be sensible in a v tree, and it is incumbent upon a patch-grinder to ensure their patches actually apply cleanly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a question i have been wondering about for long is "why does the trb tree sit in a 'bitcoin' directory, wherever it's pressed", but it is not particularly irrelevant.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now, the patches apply cleanly if the patch utility is not passed -p1, but this makes for much floppiness.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and trinque following precedent
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque may confirm: i believe that this is due to asciilifeform grinding (trb-)genesis.vpatch from an a/ and b/ containing a directory 'bitcoin'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: s/passive voice/active voice
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/patches/ircbot-multiple-channels and http://btcbase.org/patches/logbot-multiple-channels were ground diffing directories a/ and b/ with the relevant files therein, and the genesis patches for both trees ground from directories called 'ircbot' and 'logbot' respectively containing the relevant files
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha, i have made a mistake!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i realize in this moment that i did not miss the phuctorings.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: #clim report, day whatever: #clim appears to be 90% join/part spam from reineisch, 9% j/p from others, and 1% this beach feller saying "good morning everyone"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other meat, holy shiksa brisket buttman
(trilema) ben_vulpes: LET THE PHUCTORING RESUME
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuuuuuck pete that's a truck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bbl, unholy quantities of meat have arrived
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if i tell him there was an ice or crypto or ruin of usg thread he'll eat a few weeks in one sitting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with decent frequency
(trilema) ben_vulpes: something lawyers buy to feel like not-new-money?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: see ya round liquidassets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aren't porsches like a cheap expensive watch?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: dude it's everywhere
(trilema) ben_vulpes: CLIM CLIM CLIM
(trilema) ben_vulpes waves at $bzprtnr
(trilema) ben_vulpes: still, plastic nightmare of a modern car.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitch /pulls/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 3rd would be the turbo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: NO FUCKING SCREENS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 2nd best thing about car?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: passenger cannot see speedo.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: best thing about the car?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: on the topic of dashboards, $bzprtnr got a 2012 wrx
(trilema) ben_vulpes: speed, and how hard the engine is working.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there are 2 important readings in a car, and one of 'em can be had from your butt.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gimme back my tach and speedo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol fuckin gross pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but yeah, possibly a market for "cloud-backup" dash/full 360 streaming hardware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it points *backwards*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: liquidassets: nah, just haven't seen you in the forum for a while up until that connection.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and now, i will likely never buy a new vehicle.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and to think, i left an entire industry because one engineer at the firm when questioned about wasting money on a brand new vw microshitbox said "i just think everyone should own a brand new car once in their lifetime"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there will be no escaping computers and screens and soi-disant 'cockpits'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you may be amused, rumor suggests mandatory backup cams in the near future
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes please, blue light and screens at night while i drive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes please, random screen twiddling in my peripheral vision while i drive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they make the non automated cars utterly unsafe to drive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh this is how the industry moves to automated cars
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not "correction", but "yellowing" if it makes less of a ffs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: zero regard for night vision of driver
(trilema) ben_vulpes: screens with no gamma correction
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: let me guess, blue light everywhere
(trilema) ben_vulpes: spurious factors
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: did you ever figure out the source of the spuriata?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where you been
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up liquidassets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if only it could also evaluate itself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hah fml my v implementation presses into the same directory as that as which contains the patches and seals
(trilema) ben_vulpes: battery tie down rod simply failed under torsional load: "that...didn't feel like the rust giving way. jesus /fuck/."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: no breaker bar necessary, these were 10mm fuckers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: could just be for wot, point is nothing for allcomers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: we're talking usgpennies here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we have a log attributing lines to wot members whence this nonsense i ask you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: needs no dependency on deedbot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and whoever !!up's someone is on the hook for the cost of archiving their links.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: from the log!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: should be a paid service, really, debiting the accounts of whomever pastes the link
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah which reminds me, gotta go lubricate the child
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: child will get distracted by the wonder that is a fistful of pb tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: likely less amusing than you'd expect, scarcity is key to conflict
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: ganbatte
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: patch says what antecedent file hashes it stemmed from, no?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah, the "roots" thread?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah phf makes a point: kill -9 can hose data.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: didn't like the thought of you wasting your time on operating system reboots
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you can nuke a stuck node in place without having to restart the whole machine.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did you ever grok what i said about kill -9?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: couldn't tell ya, i killed the process and ran it again without the flag in question
(trilema) ben_vulpes: strace showed LOTS OF FUCKING READS which got me thinking in the right direction
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i left -verifyall in my node's boot script for some reason, took me a minute to figure out why it was taking forever to reboot the other day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: saw it, gracias!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also if you'd be so kind as to add http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2017_cleanup.vpatch to your tree i'd be much obliged. if the hopper is working again just let me know and i'll dump vpatches in there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for the * patch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: consider making http://btcbase.org/patches/*/seal/ return a plaintext list of seals?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lotsa jewesses today mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it boggles.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: you're the one damaging snr tonight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it was low, then you lost your key, now i don't even wat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: you realize that every day you continue faffing about like this the odds anyone here will pay one red cent for masamune goes down?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: omg come back with a reproducible build
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey ovh why does it take more than fifteen seconds to charge a cc? what do you use, bitcoin?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up gabriel_laddel_p
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now if gabriel_laddel_p has returned to say "omfg you said you would" the fun continues!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anything other than "yeah i'll get right on it" is a "no" in my book
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not necessarily that shitty of an attitude in this case Framedragger
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have nfi dude
(trilema) ben_vulpes: beirc shits itself when i run it naively. complaints re no generic function for cl-irc:nickname or the like
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: mnemnion_ is back
(trilema) ben_vulpes: chop chop lol the stones on this guy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bbl spawn awakens
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, gotcha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: new shiny entails capture of everything that comes out of irc servers and service/command module
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you want an ircbot to play with "now" and migration to trinque's new shiny be damned or do you want to wait for the new shiny?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: granted it's 30F out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: even the mighty pblaster could not free them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: battery tie nuts were so solidly adhesed to the ties that the rod snapped
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gentoo car quest complete
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: you may continue to comment on my blog, others may continue to bitch, there is no pleasing everyone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up gabriel_laddel_p
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "awog" == "america was once great"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well having failed to extract the battery from the dead car i must now do the aforementioned food run but also to get a 10mm deep socket
(trilema) ben_vulpes: confuse ye not the promiscuous devices with the chaste devices or what was it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: deeds not words
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: get with Framedragger just fix it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i gotta do a food and battery run before these roads ice over, bbl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: customization aside, .13 for a year of hosting and .17 for a year of support and reboots?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you want your code to run on every new message?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm down for scarification, but only the high-entropy kind that comes of abrading self against road
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but stick and poke is so hip
(trilema) ben_vulpes: subject of painting metal sheds, i just discovered "papercrete"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aside from bespeaking poverty of taste and pocket?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: howl at the blood moon or something i have no iea
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trainflake nice missed that on the first pass
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol omfg rescue dog food from child, only to be blessed by cries of anger when dog takes banana from child
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nanners are pretty cheap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: counteroffer impending, rescuing dog food from child
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i mean to say "if it gets mircea_popescu to write and think in lisp its a worthwhile use of lines"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'd rather read your experiments in lisp than php
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: aye
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh then it'd work for you as-is
(trilema) ben_vulpes: protocol lines include server banners etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm. it's the ACTION lines that it doesn't catch.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah that's right
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not eg privmsg and action
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