(trilema) nubbins`: not belabouring the point, just pointing out that sauce from hanbot holds zero value, and if all she does is run the mouth and not contribute, she's just getting in the way.
(trilema) nubbins`: but w/e
(trilema) nubbins`: 0 in, 0 out every month since
(trilema) nubbins`: in fact, F.MPIF has not performed any economic activity since October 2014
(trilema) nubbins`: fair enough. there are some here who do less.
(trilema) nubbins`: and now she runs.... this? http://trilema.com/2016/mpif-fmpif-february-2016-statement/
(trilema) nubbins`: so she used to do forum pr, but now doesn't
(trilema) nubbins`: funny how this is an ideas place and so many are willing to look past the ideas and focus on the delivery
(trilema) nubbins`: then i realized that she doesn't do anything, and thought it odd she's on the lordship list
(trilema) nubbins`: nothing until she negrated me out of spite
(trilema) nubbins`: cool.asc
(trilema) nubbins`: what's new?
(trilema) nubbins`: !v assbot:nubbins`.rate.hanbot.-1:99ef4b3d8e17f481dc6e4cb4a2592501214f67972bd8fa6ff300daf8dba9f9fc
(trilema) nubbins`: hey
(trilema) nubbins` off to smoke weed and count money
(trilema) nubbins`: maybe toss a few more gem insults my way about my radiant wife or the fact that i'm financially unencumbered and spend my days in leisure
(trilema) nubbins`: he can wait for the new deed and ignore that one too
(trilema) nubbins`: if that's not good enough for mp, well, bully.
(trilema) nubbins`: and posted the PGP-signed text in chan
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, i deeded the thing myself earlier
(trilema) nubbins`: right
(trilema) nubbins` awaits with bated breath
(trilema) nubbins`: wonder if it's still the case
(trilema) nubbins`: that was compatible with one of the early iterations
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, my deedify script generated a pubkey of 1EyQFmKg6PtARLgN2bKtNuDY28um1nbfFr
(trilema) nubbins`: great
(trilema) nubbins`: 1 block i guess huh
(trilema) nubbins`: what's the refresh on the frontend?
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron guess i coulda done it myself huh
(trilema) nubbins`: trinque good to hear
(trilema) nubbins`: rad
(trilema) nubbins`: i think i last used it three iterations ago
(trilema) nubbins`: been so long
(trilema) nubbins`: what's the url for the deed log again?
(trilema) nubbins`: you owe me a satoshi if it feeds the same address as mine
(trilema) nubbins`: sure, go ahead, it's here: http://pastebin.com/raw/6d72j4jZ
(trilema) nubbins`: i did actually deed my formal accusation.
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron in fairness nanotube probably doesn't like it either
(trilema) nubbins`: out of curiosity, what's the "right way" to go about airing my grievances?
(trilema) nubbins`: hey, ya don't like the argument, it's your choice to tune it out. doesn't make it invalid
(trilema) nubbins`: 8+1
(trilema) nubbins`: can he?
(trilema) nubbins`: sucks about the scammer she's shacked up with huh
(trilema) nubbins`: hanbot i'll take that as an apology, you're probably not so bad underneath that rough exterior
(trilema) nubbins`: never too late
(trilema) nubbins`: heh
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski photographic proof!!
(trilema) nubbins`: meanwhile, MP's girl with calves thicker than pete's thighs
(trilema) nubbins`: FTR, calling my wife an ugly broad hurts just about as much as calling my left elbow a bicycle
(trilema) nubbins`: wait...
(trilema) nubbins`: ad hominem attacks: often used by people who have valid arguments and can defend them on merit alone
(trilema) nubbins`: call me, k?
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ that one was for you hanbot
(trilema) nubbins`: if i had a satoshi for every time mp said "looky" when he'd lost an argument, i'd be able to donate a tx fee to bitbet
(trilema) nubbins`: doubt he ever thought his clubhouse'd end up like this
(trilema) nubbins`: turns out he can only do so much
(trilema) nubbins`: for all the good it did, being a lord and all.
(trilema) nubbins`: mp did negrate me, if you'll recall
(trilema) nubbins`: lel
(trilema) nubbins`: and jurov
(trilema) nubbins`: nobody seems to have anything meaningful to say but me
(trilema) nubbins`: your money, my money, who cares
(trilema) nubbins`: sign the statements, don't sign em, whatever
(trilema) nubbins`: no accounting standards
(trilema) nubbins`: scam exchange
(trilema) nubbins`: well, i guess this is what MPEx has been reduced to
(trilema) nubbins`: jurov pathetic :(
(trilema) nubbins`: lol
(trilema) nubbins`: asasshole in a suit who can't count
(trilema) nubbins`: his right as, uh.. whatever he is
(trilema) nubbins`: it was his right to introduce a private expense to the business
(trilema) nubbins`: how dare you call a fraudster a fraudster
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ stop asking questions, in other words
(trilema) nubbins`: where it says you can't just donate 17 btc to the public and expect bitbet to pick up the tab?
(trilema) nubbins`: quote the whole 3.2 (h) maybe?
(trilema) nubbins`: lol he selectively quoted so bad that he got half a word at the start.
(trilema) nubbins`: it seems you need to ask explicit, short, direct questions to allow mp's mind to absorb them
(trilema) nubbins`: maybe explicitly ask about the inputs of B: whose money? BitBet's? MP's?
(trilema) nubbins`: jurov ask him about the putting a private expense on the books! see if he dodges it! ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: imagine finding yourself in such a spot
(trilema) nubbins` chuckles
(trilema) nubbins`: because it's obviously not sane but she can't just SAY SO
(trilema) nubbins`: jurov notice how hanbot didn't answer your question
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron L1: 1
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron also, as a lord, your clicks don't put me towards the off position at all
(trilema) nubbins`: because it's been forked by chinese miners, his exact words were
(trilema) nubbins`: i thought it was mp who doesn't like bitcoin
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron if it's any comfort, i usually come here in bursts
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski 2 big eyes w/ tears leaking out
(trilema) nubbins`: you're not fit to judge that
(trilema) nubbins`: fucking embarassing for both of you, really
(trilema) nubbins`: hanbot you'll notice that the adults in the chan actually engaged me in conversation: jurov, kako, alf, and others. it's only mp that's wagging his jaw and QQing
(trilema) nubbins`: hanbot most adult speak sounds like gibberish to children
(trilema) nubbins`: but that's just one man's opinion. liked your writing on qntra
(trilema) nubbins`: i think you're a raw cunt
(trilema) nubbins`: cazalla lighten up pal!
(trilema) nubbins`: surprise surprise, jurov's questions were ignored too
(trilema) nubbins`: cazalla like..?
(trilema) nubbins`: adults talking here
(trilema) nubbins`: hanbot weren't you told to shut up?
(trilema) nubbins`: he's free to wrap his head in plastic
(trilema) nubbins`: cazalla i care little for what that scammer says
(trilema) nubbins`: "this stock warrant is valid forever or until you are mean to me"
(trilema) nubbins`: i wonder how mp's gonna cash out my stock warrant if he's got me on ignore?
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski i'm long s.mg!
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski that well's gone dry. mp only pays hangers-on in shares these days
(trilema) nubbins`: cazalla you'll notice that mp still has yet to address the fraud claims that kako's verified
(trilema) nubbins`: precious little of that happening
(trilema) nubbins`: no, you should stick around and say what you think
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't think you do get it
(trilema) nubbins`: kako's straight-up getting scammed
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform and others who have partnered up with mp should keep a close eye on things from here on out
(trilema) nubbins`: cazalla understand that in the face of abject fantasy, i have no choice
(trilema) nubbins`: ;;echo just for you mp
(trilema) nubbins`: always was shady, always was more about bluster than substance, but this abandons pretense
(trilema) nubbins`: because he's jsut a scammer
(trilema) nubbins`: sigh as loud as you want, he's not gonna read it or respond to it in any way
(trilema) nubbins`: [12:28:23] <kakobrekla>i am not arguing that.
(trilema) nubbins`: [12:28:04] <kakobrekla>correct
(trilema) nubbins`: [12:27:57] <nubbins`>look: true or false: mp is fraudulently entering 17btc into bitbet's liabilities
(trilema) nubbins`: here's a quip for you, ya fuckin idiot
(trilema) nubbins`: "dump the ugly broad" is the best popescu can come up with as a rebuttal to legitimate accusations of fraud
(trilema) nubbins`: hey, at least you didn't commit fraud
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform i still need your mailing address
(trilema) nubbins`: i'll leave you guys to your non-reality-based distractions, feel free to ping me if mp decides to address his fraud in any fashion.
(trilema) nubbins`: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171492 @ 0.00053048 = 90.9731 BTC [-] {5} man, i think my zinger triggered that one
(trilema) nubbins`: just as well to ignore
(trilema) nubbins`: so's a fraud accusation
(trilema) nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>davout: if it did not satisfy relaying rules, WHERE DID IT COME FROM on day x !? << once the backlog was cleared, it satisfied relaying rules once again?
(trilema) nubbins`: ;;echo omg you guize i think he's actually just gonna pretend he hasn't defrauded bitbet and breached two sections of the contract
(trilema) nubbins`: ;;echo but where does that leave the 17 btc of your own funds that you put on bitbet's liability sheet?
(trilema) nubbins`: or, if you prefer, here's some gibberish in lieu of content
(trilema) nubbins`: davout all it takes is a default setting of relayshitzerofeetransactions=FALSE
(trilema) nubbins`: the other one said something about "petulant and unwilling to admit error in the face of overwhelming evidence"
(trilema) nubbins`: right, yes, much less succinct
(trilema) nubbins`: wow, was -1 already? lel
(trilema) nubbins`: !v assbot:nubbins`.rate.mircea_popescu.-1:dbed451e84f3cd09d7ae986fa83201a1562d21d299af2619c70317009d6f5c28
(trilema) nubbins`: !rate mircea_popescu -1 basic scammer, no accountability
(trilema) nubbins`: this, and many other things!
(trilema) nubbins`: shoulda been watching the mempool size when you pushed out a 0-fee
(trilema) nubbins`: the all-seeing eye
(trilema) nubbins`: SFYL everyone
(trilema) nubbins`: "one i'm unwillingto carry in the full detail" lololol.
(trilema) nubbins`: the most plausible scenario i can think of is that, like dooglus concurred, a shit-fee tx took forever and then got relayed
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ 2nd pass = A1 or A2?
(trilema) nubbins`: so, no, there's no Nm set of nodes.
(trilema) nubbins`: and generally royally fucking up
(trilema) nubbins`: which by that time he'd been accused of thieving 17 btc
(trilema) nubbins`: i also flatly disbelieve that mp sent A2, A..n to completely different nodes, because it's extremely, extremely relevant and didn't come out until his original argument shit the bed
(trilema) nubbins`: guffaw
(trilema) nubbins`: and restate on irc once more
(trilema) nubbins`: you must then write a blog post
(trilema) nubbins`: stating an argument once is insufficient
(trilema) nubbins`: "feel free to restate"
(trilema) nubbins`: because two entities control most of the mining, and it's absolutely retarded for those same entities to not have a similar amount of control over nodes?
(trilema) nubbins`: numbers aren't your strong suit, maybe stick to doing the dark andreas antonolololopous schtick, it's what you're good at
(trilema) nubbins`: nice try tho
(trilema) nubbins`: suppose i run two nodes, one a member of Nk and one a member of Nm. As long as my nodes are running proper sanity checks on each other (i.e. passing tx's between them), which obviously they should be because i'm not running SPV nodes, mp's "mathematical" argument falls apart at the seams
(trilema) nubbins`: and call shame upon mp
(trilema) nubbins`: i guffaw loudly at the continued refusal to discuss 17 btc bitbet fraud
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform he spent all afternoon "napping" by throwing together some maths and deciding to switch stories
(trilema) nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu>asciilifeform i seem to recall he failed both tests for continued lordship and was basically not on the list of names to be cleared because he asked not to be. << memory failing you once again
(trilema) nubbins`: nope, nickserv would not allow
(trilema) nubbins`: no need to defend my character, just note that the attack is ad hominem and not addressing any of the various logical fallacies projected by the attacker
(trilema) nubbins`: told ya he was just gonna carry on like nothing's happened
(trilema) nubbins`: i've made promises that are more thorough than this thing
(trilema) nubbins`: no kidding, i can only fit one broken contract in my head at a time
(trilema) nubbins`: thestringpuller homework for ya
(trilema) nubbins`: again, doesn't affect me, just saying. pretty cavalier.
(trilema) nubbins`: instead, we have an incomplete, unsigned, inaccurate statement published on the 7th
(trilema) nubbins`: The representatives of BitBet solemnly promise and warrant that complete and accurate Revenue and Net Revenue statements for each calendar month will be published by them no later than by the fifth day of the new month.
(trilema) nubbins`: idgaf if they're published or not, but:
(trilema) nubbins`: 5th of the month.
(trilema) nubbins`: dude, it even says "solemnly promise and warrant".
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform i haven't read over s.nsa listing agreement in depth
(trilema) nubbins`: better luck next month with the feb+march statement
(trilema) nubbins`: unfortunately, by the logic of the listing agreement, feb 2016 statement is null and void no matter if kako signs or not
(trilema) nubbins`: guess it took a couple days to work up the courage to introduce that private expense
(trilema) nubbins`: seems early to be using your lifeline
(trilema) nubbins`: *march 5th deadline
(trilema) nubbins`: according to the listing agreement (3.2 (g)), this can only happen once per year, and it's march 7th
(trilema) nubbins`: also, FWIW, S.BBET has officially missed the Feb 5th deadline for publishing a (signed) feb 2016 statement.
(trilema) nubbins`: breaking news, buddy. your loss
(trilema) nubbins`: lol why i gotta encrypt?
(trilema) nubbins`: succinctness is not my strong point
(trilema) nubbins`: BingoBoingo LMK if you plan to not publish
(trilema) nubbins`: tyvm, please see pm from gribble
(trilema) nubbins`: [18:26:01] <+nubbins`>pete_dushenski no hard feelings, i swear!
(trilema) nubbins`: <+asciilifeform>because those who stopped, stopped so that they could scam consumers. << two wrongs make not a right
(trilema) nubbins`: no metric unit is 1024 anything
(trilema) nubbins`: abusing SI prefixes is honest?
(trilema) nubbins`: fwiw, the "bi" is short for "binary", because -- yep, you guessed it -- 1024 is a tidy 2^10
(trilema) nubbins` always chalked it up to americans not using the metric system, in which kilo is 1000 by definition
(trilema) nubbins`: because it actually does
(trilema) nubbins`: FWIW, this is why "1 terabyte = 1,000,000,000,000 bytes"
(trilema) nubbins`: dooglus kibi/mibi/gibi has been the bane of many
(trilema) nubbins`: BingoBoingo what's next?! signed & ready to go
(trilema) nubbins`: okay, pretty sure this qntra submission conforms to standard
(trilema) nubbins`: pete_dushenski no hard feelings, i swear!
(trilema) nubbins`: it would be remiss for readers to miss out on a summation of this action
(trilema) nubbins`: BingoBoingo how do / can i submit a qntra piece?
(trilema) nubbins`: he baked his fucking betting website
(trilema) nubbins`: and everyone else is who relays tx's
(trilema) nubbins`: everyone else does
(trilema) nubbins`: heh
(trilema) nubbins`: i won't read it, fwiw
(trilema) nubbins`: anyone else?
(trilema) nubbins` shrugs
(trilema) nubbins`: mp shrugged too, sux for everyone i guess
(trilema) nubbins`: simple logic
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron this isn't expert finance, my buddy
(trilema) nubbins`: MAYBE IT WAS A COMPLIMENT
(trilema) nubbins`: wow, he called me a shoemaker as an insult earlier
(trilema) nubbins`: accounting mistakes wrt bitbet divs almost every month? << iirc there was an s.mg that had an error around my stock warrant too
(trilema) nubbins`: trinque take one on the chin, why don't ya
(trilema) nubbins`: cool, do you get on the bread, drop it on the floor, and thusly get the fuck out?
(trilema) nubbins`: punkman sorry, 80% me
(trilema) nubbins`: everyone's slice is buttered differently
(trilema) nubbins`: speaking as a man of no religion, you understand.
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron as is your perogative; however, in a battle of trust vs facts, i'd rather stick with facts
(trilema) nubbins`: cost for 1 windshield: 17 btc
(trilema) nubbins`: bitbet got washed at a red by mp
(trilema) nubbins`: but it was
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't know why
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron you're assuming this was not borne of incompetence
(trilema) nubbins`: in fact, the only rational exit is for the 17 to come out of mp's couch cushions
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't think anyone's seriously floating that as a solution
(trilema) nubbins`: bitcoin's not for poor people
(trilema) nubbins`: jurov i've never sent a 0-fee tx
(trilema) nubbins`: for its novelty as well as its impropriety
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform and his suggestion provoked a hearty lel from me
(trilema) nubbins`: asciilifeform i think it's clear that the shareholders are happy eating salted shit
(trilema) nubbins`: danielpbarron hahaha now we're thinking outside the box
(trilema) nubbins`: even better
(trilema) nubbins`: cannibal holocaust remake?
(trilema) nubbins`: kakobrekla he sat bitbet on it, then broke his own chair too, then billed bitbet for two chairs
(trilema) nubbins`: back to the analogy drawing board
(trilema) nubbins`: to sit $17,000 worth of ass
(trilema) nubbins`: say, nine cents.