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(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: he wants, reasonably, a counteroffer on all three axes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: wouldja be willing to take an incentive payment next may gated on helping me filter the ocean for shared shell customers?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: doesn't really make a difference to the books, a liability is a liability. it's going to show up on the balance sheet regardless.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: "lump sum of BTC equivalent to 7500 usd", so no conversion necessary
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is the difference?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: pretty much what i'm driving at
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so seems like ftp for l2 heathens, and shell for known l2 and heathens who bathe/stick around for a while and get friendly is a plausible perforation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: can you elaborate on "time the box"? leaking of user passwords by timing sidechannel?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i had nfi linux user isolation was actually completely broken.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how the fuck am i to meaningfully sell shared shells on this thing then, if anyone who pays for a month can get in and wreck everyone else on it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does this extend to ftp users as well?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a few weeks of sweat to get root?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: so even user-level isolation is a lie on linux?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can you tell me what kind of bad behavior can be monitored for and how much of a pain it is to set up?
(trilema) ben_vulpes appends to whiteboard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes, and BingoBoingo while i'm at it since i want to get you on the same train, what kind of commission makes sense to you for flogging shared shells?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: noted, is obvious when put so.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i recall
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hostingdiscussion.com at least has a user-enumerable db, but i don't know if an automated approach would get pizarro blacklisted, or even if we care, right? can make another account and pick up where left off.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or a mircea_popescu fetlife-style automated PMer to do the outbound
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the active filtering i'd like to put in is either a regular set of eyeballs (BingoBoingo's, or the mentioned-tangentially sales guy to hire) on the "design" corners of these hosting forums to pm our ads for shells on the shared server to folks who are building websites directly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it is. i have neglected sales and putting BingoBoingo to work on that and conveying to him what he needs to know in order to do the shared hosting work that has until now landed on my plate. with the manual i published yesterday im now in a position to hand off new shared shell customers to him, and am looking at a list of hosting forums i put together for filtering over the past two days.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so to enloggify BingoBoingo's opening ask, that's ~1.9 btc let's call them bonuses and then another ~.7 btc in salary over the year (all at current rates), is that right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this guide has some good chuckles: gotta denominate corporate accounts in local currency but all fees are denominated in usd for one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think the liquidity is handled but i'll keep that in mind
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: cedula gets you ability to open corporate bank accounts, i hope?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: looks like the uy corp is necessary for ips for the rockchips at the very least; and possibly recipient of wires from btc sales
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: do you know what the costs for establishing this corp in uy are? asciilifeform you still need another trip to .ro to finalize your corp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i recall that the driver for setting up either uycorp or some other foreigncorp is to get the liability for the dc contract off BingoBoingo's personal neck and onto an impersonal corporation, correct?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: won't a second uy corp just incur more taxes, and then more more taxes when it exceeds the low tax regime hole?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, scans not a great idea. i would like to know what line over which blows you out of the low tax regime, some 20kusd per year do i recall correctly?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: speaking of, BingoBoingo, now that you have the cedula, are you approaching the point where i can buy usd for wire into your local bank account?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-17#357608 << since discarded notion of posting an ad on localbitcoins; but there are plenty of offers to pick from in the ~2.5-3% markup range.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-17#357607 << if this is in reference to my and BingoBoingo's warrants from the first month of operations, pizarro covers BingoBoingo's rent and fodder, and doesn't pay me at all; it is a trade of cash for equity.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, keep highlighting where you think i'm dropping the ball and i'll work to not.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yeah, it's school. we don't have those where i come from, so i have a lot of work to do.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't come here to not be disliked, i come and work because it's challenging, the people here make me think and work hard and don't soft-pedal critiques, and because there's no other ideological island out there that wouldn't be exile after the past four years.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: republic even the tiniest shittiest beachhead,
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look my greatest reservation in even taking this gig was that i've not really the know-how, and would be performing poorly in public the whole while. the much-maligned "learning on the job", not that i want in the slightest to 'fake it till i make it'. that by trying, i was more likely to get drummed out of the whole party for not doing a good job. and that's a cost i'm willing pay, i guess, if it builds the
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm listening to your critiques and working to address them directly. if i'm such a drag, mod6 and asciilifeform should probably replace me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: selling themselves more equity or not, i'm going to bring up paying BingoBoingo more since that's a pretty important point.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: seems pretty obvious to me that i'm barely keeping my nose above water with just the mechanics of pushing this along. mod6 wants to talk about putting more money in, that's his perogative. i'm assuaging BingoBoingo on bus factor of maintaining the shared server tonight and trying to make sense of the web hosting forums to filter them per yesterday's chat. once mod6 and asciilifeform make a decision about
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, BingoBoingo asked for documentation on the UY1 shared hosting setup, and automation for same so i put this together: http://pizarroisp.net/newaccounts.txt asciilifeform mod6 pls to eyeball
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't have a clear picture of how pricing these would work either. part of my concern with bonds is that for a largely fiat denominated operation, interest on a btc loan can murder you if the fiat/btc rate goes up significantly, and fiat incomes stay the same.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd prefer to have a bond mechanism in place.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so didja get to see her cult?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, you don't want facial brandings?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: how are you going to learn how to do it but by doing it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: walk around with hat-in-hand, even to boston partizans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform mod6: y'all have a timeline for this second round or are we going to leave it at "when necessary"? i prefer to capture commitments shortly after their made (none of this private equity "you commit twenty million today, we ask for it in three years and returns are evaluated on time from wire clearing to divestment date" silliness), and moreover having and not needing trumps needing and having to
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good morning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty fine intro course
(trilema) ben_vulpes: evening then
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm running out of steam, will have to resume tomorrow unless mircea_popescu has pressing qs or comments
(trilema) ben_vulpes: miserable problem. here's something more interesting, a documented estimate http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/rockchipestimates.org
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quite possible, i'll look at some others tomorrow.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: however 404's.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it tries to redirect to what the right url should be, though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think that's correct
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah, pizarroisp.net
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where is that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have the permalink structure as /index.php/year/month/day , but when i switch it over to /year/month/day it 404's
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well i got the rewrite, but can't get mpwp to serve at /y/m/d/post
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so i guess that i have to then write a regex to capture all of the old /index.html/y/m/d/post, redirect 'em to /y/m/d/post
(trilema) ben_vulpes: neato trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if any of the mpwpists in teh republic can lend a hand, i could really use it in getting urls that don't have index.php in them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i had this in i suppose a too-terse form the other day; shall document with words and links.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure, setting wrong expectations with scary large numbers has its own failure modes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unpleasant to run an estimate that comes out kind of marginal and watch hopesndreams go up in smoke as reality sets in
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd rather see the price estimate go down as i tighten numerical accuracy than up; i've no desire to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6q4n5TQnpA
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll rerun this all right now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i haven't updated the rc price since the pilot run, and that number assumed 1 transportation run per chassis since i'd not gotten the refutation of that number until just now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: conservative estimate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !W (+ (* 112 96) (* 4 1000) 2500)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up candi_lustt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ~112 per RC, 2500 transpo, 1k for chassis, 4 chassis, 17,252
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ya reasonable, will answer on the next context switch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: and what, ship 'em onebyone?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what fraction of the plant do you figure should be equipped?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: those were running at a what 4x markup or something stiff last i saw?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: scratch that; because we need fg i'm asking for 'em.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right right well knowing that we booughtcha out i'm asking for a quote hoping (since confirmed) that a new run was in the works or to get one underway
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: for the love of all that is holy i hope you mean "pizarro bought all teh extant fg" and not "all the fg that will ever be already are"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: nifty, keep me poasted
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yes asciilifeform mircea_popescu can i get a quote for 96 fg or 100 if that's a more convenient batch size?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so we can do an entire production run in one go. fuckin awesome.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well that's magnificent and the part i missed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought it was 24/chassis, 2u/chassis and (for some reason, obviously incorrect), 2 chassis per trip.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my mistaken misunderstanding that you could only do 2 chassis of RC plant is incorrect then, which is actually cool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i do, clearly!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: we're not shipping any more single servers down there until uy1 is gagging or l1 asks nicely
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ah i had some notion that you maxed out at 2 chassis, if we can do it in a single run that'd be great
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in the meantime, i'll focus on a landing page, wading through the sea of omg that is webhosting forums and planning in detail how to filter the sea, and booting alternatives to extant l1folks for 10kusd btc sales
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: lemme finish
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356068 << anyways, since there's cash on hand and building what i think are 2 trips worth of rockchip plant would get us more than clearing rent, imma push to get the next two plants into fab so that when the price inevitably dips we have a basis on which to capture http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1809922
(trilema) ben_vulpes: seventeen lmfao i ain't seen more than 2 in a week in recent memory. far more irksome the raw advertisements from which i must sift actual and extremely rare bits of important mail.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one only needs the single return envelope...
(trilema) ben_vulpes doesn't depreciate shredder blades on anything but the plastic; everything else gets packed into the prepaid return envelopes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: far more interesting story than context-free bitchin about the spam imho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah ty asciilifeform, the spare spleen where i keep anxiety thanks you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-16#356583 << have you pulled the opt out lever and contend it doesn't work or have you not yet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#355976 << if you're burning usd that shoulda been billed to the corp, pls to do so. otherwise, you're burning the usd to...get btc? i don't really understand the objection.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-16#356543 << i've got folks in-wot i've already pushing btc to over amazon; i'm pretty comfortable with orders in the range of 500-2000 usd; what i'm looking for are folks that want to eat on the order of 10kusd of btc every month or so, that's the comfortable headroom i'd like
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yo BingoBoingo how about some scans of that hot cedula :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-15#356051 << ~2.75 BTC at ~current rates gets 4 chassis with 96 total rockchippen, includes 1 delivery run per chassis.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no this is incorrect. i am fighting a fire elsewhere right now, will be back as soon as i can.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't think it useless nothing as it will snip significant time off report generation. the pressure from the board is to forge forward with the rockchips, but if there's change to be eked from the shared hosting i should capture that as well, so thanks for the prodding.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: logbot, i mean.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm going to do it in postgres; should be a lot easier to get php to do both the mysql for the pizarro mpwp and the postgres for deedbot than to port deedbot to mysql
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mk, makin some progress on the pizarro accounting/assettracking db
(trilema) ben_vulpes: esthlos: it is very useful to leave them around; the kb wasted in /tmp are negligible and useful in edge case failures
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i will take this rebuke and mull it over with my kindleberger
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps i misunderstand, but when i think "securitized" i think "brent" and the forsakeofargument "bvulpes reserve-grade distillate", which anyone can produce from flower if their heads are screwed on with more than 2 threads
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (imagine living with a foot in both worlds)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: refinement and aggregation of physical items into fungible paper
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pot at least has yet to achieve full starbuxxification; and that industrial value-extractor-from-american-moocows will want standardized, homogeneous psychoactive product to spray atop its flavor-of-the-week flower imitation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how theoretically wouldja securitize cryptography
(trilema) ben_vulpes: characteristics of arbitrarium, hydrocarbon refinement byproducts of no more than your mom) are coming to further smear the soi-disant independent thinkers into precisely the same paste the megastate produces everywhere
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: granted, it's a single level of biorefinement, but it's a 'lithium' for the folks who refuse to take their ballas-prescribed sedatives, preferring for whatever reason, the "natural stuff". i'm not saying it's not a pink-sheet securitizable, but that standards for the commoditized (and inevitably, securitized) product (thus and such cbd, that and so thc, viscosities of whatever, optical
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it'll take a decade but there will be a securitizable asset here, just like pork bellies. only nobody stateside even wants to contemplate the notion because it runs so contrary to their self delusions and delusions of special "girl scout cookie" product burn away
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and so the bankers will call on margin again and again as the marktomarket value descends.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just, not at the prices the farmers want.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's entirely saleable as an input to industrial processes in precisely the same manner as nicotine is sprayed on cigarettes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yeah farmers get rekt and bankers book it; story of the ages.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways this is a solvable problem and it's being solved by the people i told how to solve it by refining the otherwise excess product into shelf-stable distillates and offering lines of credit securitized by the refined product at market prices just like any other asset
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the lulz are so very thick
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: oh i suggest you go look into hardesty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: starbucksification is coming for your precious vacation-from-reality businesses, dildos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: girthy spittoon, i still don't understand how the overlays of trinque's musl overlay work properly; not even really which knobs to pull
(trilema) ben_vulpes: granted the 5 is built with a ken thompson'd 6, and the 4 built with a thompson'd 5.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is factually incorrect, i have removed gcc6 and 5 from gentoos built with modern stage3.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is pretty neat like that!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hm yeah how did i have this thing eat random text
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no, there are also the rockchips themselves. full breakdown http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/rockchip.lisp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: safe-online-rsabox production plant buildout and consolidate the physical beachhead in .uy. so mod6 asciilifeform is the board inclined to raise more capital to build this out and attend to morale in sudamerica?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i crunched some numbers, and i think it's going to cost around 3 btc to put the production rockchip plant together and get it down south, all based on 4 2U's with 24 rockchippen each, transpo of ~2.5kusd and per-chassis fab costs of ~800usd. i think with the outrageous success of the rockchip pilot plant pizarro's in a *great* spot to refinance per mircea_popescu's suggestion, to provide for the production
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kindle fulla fifty shades of the same smut
(trilema) ben_vulpes: designed by su department of designing The Right Car, i mean
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dickintheass"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps i misconcieve of the industrial processes, and could benefit from experience, but i labor under the apprehension that there was "teh one su car, designed by su factory" whereas american product is "ten stanford cucks who think the exact same way writing the exact same banking app that chase will release as a feature in two years, written by their peers who took salaries instead of grahams
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hard to tell, never got to experience su glory days
(trilema) ben_vulpes: grand network of corporations and wall street will ensure that americans are "stepped down gently" a la the photosynthesis process, with maximum $anything extracted over the long term
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: different mechanism: here everyone "making apps", slicing open appendices are ~exactly the same in the head, so everything they produce converges to ~the same thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they get completely mass produced healthcare/parts/food/'mobile experiences' and fuck'em.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no money in selling parts/strange to the herd.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and unless you're an industrial large enough to warrant snapon deliveries weekly, you better be stocked preemptively.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's an industrial item, not consumer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "who would ever buy one of those without the power supply for the snowflake laptop?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes: especially the bigbox(tm) stores, they don't sell anything nonstandard.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: last time i could be assured of walking out the door and getting a tool (not part!) that i needed was in nyc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure; i recently got 2 pair of tall jackstands, delivered to house, for ~.6 the cost of item at store which was even shorter
(trilema) ben_vulpes: be damned if i'm going to drive around all day on the offchance they have a thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i somehow get 'em to leave the register and check inventory manually
(trilema) ben_vulpes: us, apparently, is many different countries smooshed into one.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: these physical retail outlets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: does not call ahead?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: comic juxtaposition of large mass bouncing gaily around at speed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's the best shot!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: take me out to the deeesert/romp around on the flaaaats/burning oil and lighting off guns/fuck all the liberals i'm gonna have fun/cause it's root root root for the germans/if the diesels get neutered it's a shaaaaaame/cause it's one! two! three! strikes you're out in the us! penitentiary! game!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh heh heh nothing like seeing five tons on 1.25 wheels
(trilema) ben_vulpes: poor asciilifeform, one begins to understand his resentment of the "bars with acres of parking"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: deeeelux road soda
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this begs to be ensongified
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and seven wenches
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and three winches
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or or unimog limo with ultra lift kit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: don't get high sided my man
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aah this changes things
(trilema) ben_vulpes pictures mircea_popescu and crew in a unimog
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: sounds like they let it burn off, which'd keep it moderate. the problem usgderps suffer from is *not* letting it burn.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wildfires at all? suffers from the northwestern us problem of excess tinder buildup at all?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: place gets enough rain that the whole thing is unlikely to go up at once right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes has been drawing up plans for a permanent gas/charcoal combo griller
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sounds spiffy!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nono, i exaggerate, grossly. that said, i haven't figured out how to bake a chicken without a cloud of chicken-scent emerging and permeating the domus on every basting.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: sure, dood is like sixty five tho.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: I HUNGER FOR LOLS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyone have a grahamnews account? submit the phuctoring?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: motherfucker because i want to dump my entire heated air mass every time the girl fries something
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'll do you one just a hair more ridiculous: this place has a whole-house evacuator that "well you can just run the whole-house fan when you're cooking!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (how the kitchen came to be without a hood is a mystery i do not think i shall ever understand, given that the dood ran cat5 and coax to every room. what, no women cooking in his life or something?)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: interesting; i've got to install a hood in the kitchen; so will learn the truth without any electronics.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: this one is nominally double-walled; haven't cut through it...yet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ohay is there a crackernyooz link?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-11#353878 << i found one made of brick! couldn't believe the thermal inertia.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no argument there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude just the chip and pin crap is intolerably slow.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: solid haul asciilifeform mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'please never give us money or trust us with anything'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is, or was i don't really care to look, something named like that in portland too: "The Open Sourcery"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: adrian popa entry has a random https://archive.is/ string
(trilema) ben_vulpes: are ukeleles the instrument for people both too poor for a piano and lazy to learn guitar?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > especially the varieties you can afford << har har har
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: howdja determine "some access to private repos"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and also the hn instaban
(trilema) ben_vulpes quite looking forward to this trilema
(trilema) ben_vulpes: vpatch is 300 lines including examples
(trilema) ben_vulpes: esthlos: i made a gensym dir in /tmp, passed that to gpg for the workdir, and then various operations take a teardown key, defaulting to true which could be overriden to inspect keyring state should the operator so desire
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think mod6's worked that way eventually too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: esthlos: yeah, that's what i did and i think asciilifeform as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i wouldn't be surprised to find an old key of mine in there from a mac
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thank you mod6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looking forward to it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: take heart douchebag, determining how far to go above the bare minimum is a lifelong project :P sometimes 'not one iota' is a fine response.
(trilema) ben_vulpes curious to see if the guy leaves off at 'osint' copypasta
(trilema) ben_vulpes: native bluetooth stack i'm going to guess does not affect trb build
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: now how would one go about determining if any of these mines were steppable-upon or stepped-upon in the context of trb?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: aaah now that's more like it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "hey dudes did you know that $whatever?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think that'd be a fine thing with which to 'shit the logs up'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: there is always p.bvulpes.com
(trilema) ben_vulpes: douchebag: the image approach is impossibly frustrating; will not reflow across my screen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've always assumed it's because dood can't copy/paste
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which one is the maoi, BingoBoingo ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, upstack, is what i want.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plus, gotta do the customerdatabase first in anycase.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: will save time if i bring a polished design instead of this adhoc bikeshedding.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: let us table it for a bit, i do not have a proposal baked and understand all of the things you've pointed out so far.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but brittle solution, ~spinning blade near controls.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "dun fuckin lose this!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can also generate unique account identifiers from fg, use that instead
(trilema) ben_vulpes: user decrypts, leaks, their problem. set a session key, broadcast data unencrypted, leak is pizarro's fault
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