lobbes: well I found the source of the conflated months weird. For whatever reason, the date compare for python fails when it is comparing formatted dates across months... i.e. "31 Mar 2016 < 01 Apr 2016" evaluates to ~false~, yet "30 Mar 2016 < 31 Mar 2016" evaluates to true like it should
lobbes: in any case, fixing now (there was also an issue with some of the bot lines being out-of-order, which will also be fixed).
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: wtf, that's a spectacular bug. python ftw.
mircea_popescu: holy shit he's right!
mircea_popescu: Python 2.6.6 (r266:84292, Jun 20 2019, 14:14:55)
mircea_popescu: [GCC 4.4.7 20120313 (Red Hat 4.4.7-23)] on linux2
mircea_popescu: Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
mircea_popescu: >>> one="31 Mar 2016"
mircea_popescu: >>> two="01 Apr 2016"
mircea_popescu: >>> one<two
mircea_popescu: False
lobbes: weird huh. Possibly I was just implementing it wrong; I haven't looked too much into it tbh. Though I did find a workaround (instead of "<" operator, simply a "<>". I ultimately just need to tell if the days have changed from one line to the next, so that works); re-running my archives into my testblog now. Then I'll be going through with a veeeyyry fine toothed comb
mircea_popescu: aite.
mircea_popescu: ftr, today's the 5th, just started ; and it's also the absolute last day i can possibly receive this thing. after that, ima be on the road for a while.
mircea_popescu: so im guessing having failed to make it run in this window we'll look at it again when i'm back ?
lobbes: mircea_popescu: well, what are you looking at for hours left? I can try and get this to you in the next say 5 hours
lobbes: otherwise, for the foreseeable future I will be available whenever you are to look at this (save for the last week of December)
mircea_popescu: lobbes, no but think about it, even if i add the dump now, it'll be 20+ hours until it ~completes~. i'd like to you know, have more than a day after that if a problem crops up. it's just not feasible anymoar.
mircea_popescu: i'll be back in settled circumstances willing and able to do such things sometime early next year.
lobbes: mircea_popescu: I hear you on that. Welp, I failed this one
lobbes: I'll keep combing it for bugs in the meantime, what can you do. Gives me time to make sure there will be no issues on prod server either I suppose
mircea_popescu: moreover, a weekend-ish project that didn't complete in three momths ain't gonna complete in a coupla days.
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snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
lobbes: mircea_popescu: it is reasonable. fwiw I'll have it ready for when you are
lobbes: though tbh, this whole experience makes me think that maybe computers just ain't my thing. Perhaps I ought to think about BingoBoingo's writing for Qntra course a little more instead of this TMSR OS project
lobbes: idk, I've got some thinking to do
mircea_popescu: i thought computering was your chosen profession ?
lobbes: I mean, I make my living doing it in Incan lands, sure. But the bar is much lower in those lands
lobbes: and even then, it has always been 'soft computering' like reporting, sql queries, excel jockying, etc. The only programming language I really know is python (and that I've only ever used here in tmsr)
mircea_popescu: from what i've seen, most people decide they don't really like computers once they get to know them at all.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, sql is as much a programming language as any of them. bash, too.
lobbes: that may be part of it haha. The more I do learn, the more I realize that I don't like it enough to ~want~ to be in front of a computer all day
lobbes: well I'm glad you think that of sql; I've never known if I could count it as a 'programming' language
mircea_popescu: (notice, incidentally, how my bash / awk didn't betray me in "if($2 != day)" like your python betrayed you)
lobbes really does need to learn bash and awk already, in any case
mircea_popescu: awk is really a sorta better php imo
lobbes: I believe
mircea_popescu: at any rate transparently what php set out to be back in 1990s, "what if we had a web-awk???".
mircea_popescu: not even a bad idea, i'd say it's the core that carried the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-12-04#1878244 thing
ossabot: Logged on 2018-12-04 10:15:46 mircea_popescu: lamp was, in strict historical terms, the ~only~ linux success.
mircea_popescu: now, how can you live doing reporting without awk is beyond me.
lobbes: well, current saltmine (doing reporting) not only doesn't have awk, nor bash, but is on winblows (no surprise) and no administrative rights to do anything useful on computer). It is comical really. The amount they spend in time/money to do things that could be done with a 5 minute bash/awk (which again, just goes to show that in Incan lands it isn't about actually doing, just looking like doing)
mircea_popescu: anyway, to belabour the point : the difference between us, dictated by experience and high level understanding as it may be, nevertheless comes in simple droplets. where i choose to let sql handle its own date format and use proper numeric notation for time, you attempt to convey string dates across boundries. it's [http://trilema.com/2015/the-downtrodden-are-downtrodden-for-a-reason-step-on-their-faces/?b=Old%20age&e=trea
mircea_popescu: chery#select][this sorta thing] that gets you bloody.
mircea_popescu: it's this sorta thing that gets you bloody.
mircea_popescu: i dunno this has anything to do with computers per se, or in other words even if you decide you want to write, or make pottery, or run an isp or whatever the fuck else, you'll just meet the same bugaboos in different skirts.
lobbes: hm is this something I can change, though? Or am I doomed here
mircea_popescu: well how the hell do i know what you can change
lobbes: true. I'm gonna take some time to absorb that trilema
lobbes: ty
mircea_popescu: np
mircea_popescu: in other webidiocy lulz, http://ivy.paheal.net/_images/61370761c2ece4571a3a354e16605a52/1556124%20-%20Bugaboo%20Princess_Peach%20Super_Mario_Bros..png is the FIRST, and roughly speaking only, non-stroller result for a pic search for the string "bugaboo".
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-02#1954056 <-- apologies for the radio silence. I've been down with a nasty stomach flu the last few days. I'll catch up with the discussion in the next coupla days and I'll give my take on bios/bootloader ownership
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-02 18:36:12 dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-29#1953812 << thanks for the background spyked. I agree we're at the phase of figuring out what is really needed.
spyked: in related news, my november review/december plan was also delayed because of that, I'll have it published on saturday, along with my notes on current tmsr-os status
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-03#1954183 <-- ftr, I'm not especially familiar with coreboot, though I've swimmed for a while in the SeaBIOS code a couple of years ago. but otoh the uefi 1/2 cleavage is worth studying and documenting in detail and I'll take that up if you think it's a priority.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-03 18:05:46 dorion_road: as it turns out, it seems to my eye that it'd suit you well, given, e.g., the low level firmware work you're doing. do you want it ?
spyked: also otoh, I'm not entirely sure custom biosen/chips are the way to go, since they require a fair amount of reverse engineering, which is usually a massive time sink. it'd certainly be an interesting research project, but it's not something I'd make the delivery of tmsr-os depend on.
mircea_popescu: it's only interesting because it's how "bake own hardware" eventually starts ; sure as fuck can't have anything stalled on it.
diana_coman: !!up dorion_road
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dorion_road: ty diana_coman.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-05#1954366 << thank you for the update, sorry to hear you're under the weather. I hope you're able to rest up and recover. I look forward to the discussion!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-05 05:49:41 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-02#1954056 <-- apologies for the radio silence. I've been down with a nasty stomach flu the last few days. I'll catch up with the discussion in the next coupla days and I'll give my take on bios/bootloader ownership
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-05#1954369 << interesting to know on the SeaBIOS experience, what'd you do with that ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-05 06:29:20 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-03#1954183 <-- ftr, I'm not especially familiar with coreboot, though I've swimmed for a while in the SeaBIOS code a couple of years ago. but otoh the uefi 1/2 cleavage is worth studying and documenting in detail and I'll take that up if you think it's a priority.
dorion_road: the uefi 1/2 cleavage is a priority crevice to map in detail.
dorion_road: how about you outline your first steps there in the plan you'll be publishing saturday ?
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-05#1954371 << I agree reversing chips is not a dependency of tmsr-os. My thought process there is it's an optional package.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-05 06:33:41 spyked: also otoh, I'm not entirely sure custom biosen/chips are the way to go, since they require a fair amount of reverse engineering, which is usually a massive time sink. it'd certainly be an interesting research project, but it's not something I'd make the delivery of tmsr-os depend on.
dorion_road: While there must be a bootloader to run tmsr-os, Coreboot need not be utilized on a system, even if that system is already supported by Coreboot.
dorion_road: With that being said, BIOS auditability and integrity is a key piece of the pie and someone owning it and adding configs for the set of supported boards would be a win to my eye.
dorion_road: spyked et. al, is ^ that a sensible approach to you ?
diana_coman: !!up dorion_road
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dorion_road: It occurred to me this morning, this tmsr-os project could be utilized medium to long term in both lifetime support consultancy and the hottest business idea in btc (code review and code insurance) ventures.
dorion_road: I haven't developed it very far past what's in those articles and what we've done to develop JWRD, but seems like there is a medium to long term profit center to establish.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-05-17 19:17:54 trinque: republic is scant of profit centers
dorion_road: life's too short to salt mine for idiots any longer than you have to.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-03-04 16:14:16 mircea_popescu: empire does not in any factual sense exist. man who works 70% of the time for idiots is === the remaining 30% of that man.
mircea_popescu: in other "lulz", in the sense that koch & co are so fucking evil it boggles the mind : gpg has an ascii armored mode, which however contains no error recovery.
mircea_popescu: so koch-gpg is, out of the box, worse than useless for archival : tar / zip / etc as they exist on unix-likes are fucked in the head enough such that if there's a byte error, either the remainder of the archive or the bytes past that one in the list are lost ; but this can be mitigated at least by having multiple copies. gpg however, multiple copies are equally useless, if none make it intact the contents is lost, because
mircea_popescu: well, different bytestreams.
mircea_popescu: the WHOLE FUCKING POINT of "armored" mode is to armor it, you're not wasting those 40% extra bytes just for the sake of wasting them wtf.
mircea_popescu: it's high fucking time for a ~comprehensive~ archival-and-encryption util that handles compression, encryption ~and error redundancy~!!!! correctly.
mircea_popescu: i must know, at the end of its run a) that it optimally used the bytespace by wringing out periodicity in the input ; b) that only the designated keys can ever get the input back out and c) that a specific set of occurences will not harm the contents. such as "two consecutive lost bytes once ; AND six independent lost bytes". or w/e it is. set percentually or w/e.
mircea_popescu: this is ~all~ obviously crypto-matter (which'd explain why the forefuckwits managed it so poorly -- crypto is like the intellectual antithesis of moronman)
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/12/vpn-breaking-zero-day-effective-against-many-nix-systems-burned/ << Qntra -- VPN Breaking Zero Day Effective Against Many *nix Systems Burned
BingoBoingo: ^ In other lulz
BingoBoingo: !!seen zx2c4
deedbot: 2018/11/30 04:54:33 <zx2c4> My "nice post" remark wasnt sarcastic, if thats what youre responding to
BingoBoingo: The whole "we're going to Microsoft better than Microsoft crowd seems to have been caught prone in the field this time.
mircea_popescu: and every other time
mircea_popescu: "I orignally listed CentOS as being vulnerable
mircea_popescu: to the attack, but this was incorrect, at least regarding IPv4" << the moneyshot there.
BingoBoingo: We appear to be first outside of the mailing list on this, so taking a bit of time to try spreading
mircea_popescu: jfw's been a busy boy, has he!
BingoBoingo: jfw has indeed. Publishing quite the treasure trove. The jfw/dorion pairing seems to be a great benefit to the both of them.
diana_coman: well, they have actually developed a partnership that works, certainly.
BingoBoingo finally applying to places in Buquebus range (also Missouri en Argentina del Norte). Trying not to hold "No querés re-activar tu proyecto de venta de servicios web? Nosotros para ayudarte podemos ofrecerte el servicio sin costo inicialmente..." against them.
feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/12/keccak-hashing-for-kernel-rng/ << bvt's backtrace -- Keccak Hashing for Kernel RNG