mp_en_viaje: i just woke up in a roomful of passed out nude sluts
ave1: at time like these I wish I had a store full of good remarks in my head, instead of tons of ways to program a stupid computer
ave1: after a week of failure, a day at the beach awaits
ave1: I think I'm pressing the right buttons on this gcc build but it simply does not work
mp_en_viaje: you will be mentioned in my current article which may have to also be my will.
mp_en_viaje: also, anyone recall the logline where (iirc ben_vulpes ?) described alf being in some sort of oooh, it wasn't manticore, it was valkyrie.
mp_en_viaje: where the fuck's the whole manticore thing coming from then ?!
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> where the fuck's the whole manticore thing coming from then ?! << During hanbot's missionary work to tardstalk, the manticore piece was one of the arts commisioned. Don't have the link on hand, but seems like a 2013 thing
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local news and international observers:
https://archive.is/6YMHN "Una delegación de observadores internacionales que arribaron a Uruguay para las elecciones internas de los partidos políticos fueron asaltados mientras cenaban en un restaurante" "Entraron cinco o seis encapuchados rompiendo la puerta de vidrio. Todos tenían revólveres y máscaras y algunos escopetas"
BingoBoingo: In the saga of the worst sport, futbol. Uruguay was eliminated from the Copa America by Peru in a game where they put the ball in the goal three times during regulation play, none of which counted for various femstate reasons. Lost the 0-0 tie in a sort of coinflip dressed as a shootout.
BingoBoingo: Apparently three of the four other quarterfinals also ended in 0-0 ties
a111: Logged on 2019-06-27 07:03 mp_en_viaje: trinque, i do not believe you will find such a thing as a useful history of rus' 20th century in this language, like you have say a useful history of the latin centuries 3-5.
trinque: the mircea_popescu/asciilifeform threads are probably the best source historians will have in 3-500 yrs
a111: Logged on 2016-08-12 22:39 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1519897 << yes, the us was inconceivably wealthy. i nthat 1985-1990 half decade / 5yrplan it could have literally convinced the globe to do anything. this is ultimate wealth. sadly they decided to use that capital to convince the globe "saddam had nuclear weapons" and "green energy/blabla ecolotardisms and assorted danquayleisms" instead.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-27 14:12 asciilifeform: and in epoch 3, 4, whole orchestra of kakobreklas killed entire forests to print nonsense re how 'we did it ~in spite~ of the management', aha.
trinque: I don't even disagree, just drawing it out.
trinque: it's hard to see a way this organized statal terror doesn't become self-licking-icecream-cone, and evidently it did
trinque: do you see this as a management failure, inevitability, inferior stock, other?
trinque: yep, this part is not in question on my end. uselessness must be filtered.
trinque: it seems like the USSR and USSA narratives broke down at record speed, compared to predecessors.
trinque: asciilifeform: what is it in your view that broke? simply succession? nobody could sit in king stalin's chair?
trinque: (I could see this; fuck's sake, what an empire)
a111: Logged on 2019-06-27 18:37 asciilifeform: revolutionaries break vital organ -- mechanism of succession to throne. this almost always gives same pattern. ( and in that light, north kr, for whatever idiocies, is unusual and worth to study , is exception )
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, i thought that was a reference to something prior.
trinque: could say life was too easy by the time the pipe gushed, but was the pipe not also gushing in mid-century US?
trinque: yet some methwitch got 3 dudes strapped to an ICBM and fired at the moon
trinque: yeah, I'd buy the N1 sabotage hypothesis
trinque: I don't know about that. I'm meandering toward a point about narrative and the power thereof.
trinque: nah, what did the Men Doing Things believe in the moment, on either side.
trinque: this is what'd be interesting to know
trinque: act from principle yes, but there appear to be moments where the principles flow, heh, from princeps
trinque: I doubt this because it conflates the hearts of men and grunts.
trinque: this is what I suspect the two had in common when they were anything to speak about.
trinque: I would've earlier said that the ussa and ussr died quick because technology caused them to hit a complexity limit.
trinque: now I want to say that they died because they made shitty gods.
trinque: look at sad danielpbarron pulling the stick on yhwh
trinque: heh, in all of north yurp, later sat upon by apparent better gods
trinque: vikings and their spiffy gods got a great run out of it.
trinque: danielpbarron: ftr your fixation when fucking is allowed and when it's the naughty is the saddest thing I've ever seen.
trinque: you found your cock, congrats. I played a better christian dork in my teens than you've ever done.
trinque: asciilifeform: why is it that revolutionaries must break the cycle of succession, rather than simply replace the wheel?
trinque: hm, so this is in-world magic that had to be undone. fatal then, for sure.
trinque: stalin had 3 decades; that's time enough to beat on the head of a protege
trinque: why didn't he end up in the chair?
trinque: soft because insufficiently head-beaten, or what was the weakness
trinque: the miami meme is still a little lost on me, born as I was in FL, shithole supreme.
trinque: but I guess it was permavacation to the outside, 80s partying
trinque: BingoBoingo: like "someday I'll post such a great pic on instagram I'll have the likes to buy a flat in miami" or what
trinque: asciilifeform: back on the subj of gods, ever read Jaynes' Origin of Consciousness?
trinque: the operative hypothesis on my end is that 20th century powers invested their narrative power in men, and when they died, narrative died also.
trinque: this isn't an implicit proposal to return to the past, just a finger pointing at the void
trinque: asciilifeform: hypothesis is well summarized in a mircea_popescu trilema post I'll find
trinque: you know, that one has been on my list too long. I'll move it up.
trinque: but anyhow, perhaps humans stuck things in the gods that needed to mind the gap.
trinque: and perhaps the "hurr god doesn't real, now I can masturbate in peace" thing isn't the best place to park the head.
BingoBoingo: trinque: As in the place they fixate on as "having made it"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: really gets into the pathology
trinque: yeh, heaven on earth is the most decadent shit I've ever heard.
BingoBoingo: But all they know is the glossy print. Nevermind living in better places already.
BingoBoingo: Miami's also the place where the folks with money here go shopping which probably ads to the mythology