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asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the land of microshit, https://archive.is/45i24 >> 'There is a bug in Outlook that causes S/MIME encrypted mails to be send in encrypted and unencrypted form...'
asciilifeform: and elsewhere in winblowzistan, 'Equifax website hacked again, this time to redirect to fake Flash update'.
mod6: Updated Republican Node List with pete_dushenski's new '199.204.187.186'.
mod6: Thanks pete_dushenski!
asciilifeform: in other lulz, something closely resembling trb node on ex-dulap ( 46.166.165.30 ) still running... though i do not recommend it for any practical use
asciilifeform: whole box is , at least from surface appearance, untouched, logins work, etc
mod6 holds nose
asciilifeform: hey trinque check your boxes that had 'wires', they are probably STILL running, and trbing to it
asciilifeform: and who else had one of these -- ben_vulpes ?
mod6: I did, but i took mine down a while ago.
jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track.
trinque: asciilifeform: took down my wire too, but thanks for the heads up
mircea_popescu: ahaha equifax raped to shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so if logins work then just beleete it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what'd that do , exactly, whoever wanted copy of hdd - already has
mircea_popescu: well, when presented with knobs, twiddle them at least once.
mircea_popescu wouldn't put it past teh excel-powered-secret-agents to have fucked up the backups, for instance.
mircea_popescu: "oh, of course we have. WE ARE THE MOST TECHNOADEVANCED COLLECTION OF IDIOTS AND DUMB CUNTS THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWS!!1"
asciilifeform: speaking of 'technoadvanced' gerontocracy, https://archive.is/IFtZF >> 'Congress’ pharmacist hints some members have Alzheimer’s, backpedals furiously'
asciilifeform: best part, 'People on Twitter expressed dismay at the revelation and the apparent breach in trust.' << 'people'
mircea_popescu: teh... zinx probably hired the same people already!
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all
mircea_popescu: aww the crashing crashed the bot???
a111: Logged on 2017-10-12 14:33 jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724326 << good habit to develop ~now~, 'p' has no hidden embedding of date (or of anything else) in sigs
a111: Logged on 2017-10-12 14:33 jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track.
asciilifeform: a pgptron that embeds 'helpful' things magically in sigs is approx as dumb idea as rifle that helpfully reaims itself in random directions
mircea_popescu: pretty sure they have that
asciilifeform: 'oh hey a bouncing ball, you wanted that shot too i assume?'
asciilifeform: spamublics
mircea_popescu: yet apparently can rent 1k boxes.
asciilifeform: or 1k bulldozers, what of it
mircea_popescu: we need a couple.
asciilifeform: ask'im if he'll let a few ? or is there problem, is he weak in the head like all of the others, and only takes goldspamogram or shiterium or some other fuckknowswhatbutneverbitcoin
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would he work for you, i don't get this.
asciilifeform: for mircea_popescu , presumably
asciilifeform: i dun need a spamdozer at all.
mircea_popescu: you expect if random dood on side of the road asks me if he can what ? rent my car ? girl ? take a sip of my drink?
mircea_popescu: in what world does this make sense.
asciilifeform: reading the link, seems as if d00d were in it for the moneyz, rather than for own amusement in his cellar, neh
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu had a twatter page where he boasted of having purchased 1,000 200-litre crates of orca-cola, but did not say why, it would not be unreasonable to politely ask if he wanted to sell some -- though answer could end up being 'it is to fill my swimming pool, buzz off'
mircea_popescu: guy runs ahref, a popular google gaming thing.
mircea_popescu: libregoogle, if you will.
asciilifeform: ok then makes sense.
mircea_popescu: i expect they do a buncha indexing or such
asciilifeform: ahref ! iirc accounted for 80+% of the http log lines on dulap.
mircea_popescu: aha. so there you go.
asciilifeform: he might be the 1 d00d with a full html mirror of the thing.
asciilifeform: ( or then again could be anybody, and for some reason using his useragent, i have nfi )
asciilifeform: fwiw 1000s of unique ips presenting that string.
mircea_popescu: supposedly he got a coupla k boxes. but, you realise, nobody buys a box without a bunch of ips for it.
mircea_popescu: as we were saying, c block per rack is actually kinda narrow
asciilifeform: for some reason on 1st reading i pictured bots, rather than racked 'honest' boxen
diana_coman: !!key Roger_
deedbot: Not registered.
mircea_popescu: !!key Roger_
deedbot: Not registered.
mircea_popescu: !!key roger___
deedbot: Not registered.
mircea_popescu: trinque dood complaining deedbot registered him but no key showing ?
trinque: he only just did
trinque: !!key roger___
mircea_popescu: oh oh. ty.
trinque: !!key roger__
trinque: also that lol
trinque: gotta camp all the rogers; there's gonna be a rush!
mircea_popescu: the variety of noob approaches to things is unennumerable.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in the circus, 'North Korean hackers stole a vast cache of data, including classified wartime contingency plans jointly drawn by the United States and South Korea, when they breached the computer network of the South Korean military last year, a South Korean lawmaker said Tuesday.'
asciilifeform: 'One of the plans included the South Korean military’s plan to remove the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, referred to as a “decapitation” ' etc.
asciilifeform: 'The military has not yet identified nearly 80 percent of the 235 gigabytes of leaked data' run moar koreablowz
ben_vulpes: which reminds me "Symantec is no longer allowing governments to review the source code of its software because of fears the agreements would compromise the security of its products" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-russia-symantec/exclusive-symantec-ceo-says-source-code-reviews-pose-unacceptable-risk-idUSKBN1CF2SB
ben_vulpes: "they took a stand and they put security over sales"
asciilifeform: 'ohnoez, nsa whitelist gotta stay seekrit'
ben_vulpes: something like that, yeah
asciilifeform: '“Obviously source code could be used in ways that are inimical to our national interest,” Cilluffo said. “They took a principled stand, and that’s the right decision and a courageous one.”'
BingoBoingo: lolton
BingoBoingo: *Lolrton
BingoBoingo: !!up gribble
deedbot: gribble voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 5275.02, vol: 19011.87 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 5370.9, vol: 3310.15 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 5314.9, vol: 74586.75 | GDAX BTCUSD last: 5288.01, vol: 17322.93 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 5279.3, vol: 7739.98 | Gemini BTCUSD last: 5283.88, vol: 11248.65 | OKCoin BTCUSD last: 5221.67, vol: 4224.79 | Volume-weighted last average: 5299.93
asciilifeform: ;;goxlag
gribble: Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.
ben_vulpes: and in other misdirections: keys.gnupg.net
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: looks like just another sks ?
ben_vulpes: really? i get redirected to analytics.sumptuouscapital.com
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes might want to have a stern talk with his isp ?
ben_vulpes: whoa yup.
asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu , didja know that they display a 'pub 4096R/2FB7B452 2014-06-16 *** KEY REVOKED *** [not verified]' ?
asciilifeform: what, i wonder, is this 'verified' business
ben_vulpes: this actually seems to be a chrome wtf?
trinque: says over here "It works!" default html page
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: just nao tested on 2 chromes, loads as pictured on archive link
asciilifeform: definitely not chromism
mircea_popescu: no idea what this is. whi's they ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: koch
mircea_popescu: did you know there's a bunch of sites translating trilema and trying to sell adwords on the "content" ?
ben_vulpes: local links shows correct page...
mircea_popescu: sumptuouscapital lmao. wtf is wrong with these idiots. royal and empire and bs.
mircea_popescu: reminds one of the early studio system minors battles.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, pub 4096R/2FB7B452 2011-07-22. 2014 item prolly some fake or w/e.
ben_vulpes: cleared browser data and now i get the right page
ben_vulpes: what in the ever loving fuck
ben_vulpes: OR A PAGE THAT LOOKS RIGHT
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you know you sound a lot like porn surfers with infected setups with all this.
asciilifeform: btw did everybody spot how the faek was made
asciilifeform: or need finger point ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: $work demands infectable browser, what can i say
mircea_popescu: i expect ye olde "copy signature on anything, gpg is happy"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope
asciilifeform: it's a valid sig
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i have not spotted
mircea_popescu: srsly, ppl downloading my sig from keys.gnupg.net can end up with a fake replacing the original ?
asciilifeform: folx you don't know mircea_popescu's longfp ?!
asciilifeform: 0x8A736F0E2FB7B452 << genuine mp
mircea_popescu: !!key mircea_popescu
gribble: Error: "!key" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: 0x8907923DC95594B2 << faek
asciilifeform: or nope
asciilifeform: 0x254F55242FB7B452 <<
mircea_popescu: so someone actually took the trouble to mine a collision ?
asciilifeform: cheapo collision
asciilifeform: dollar store
asciilifeform: ( 32-bit )
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should be flattered.
trinque: ftr I get a "not found" on the above link.
asciilifeform: but Somebody Cared!1111
ben_vulpes: there is also "This key was generated as part of the Evil32 project. It is not owned by the user descrived in the UID"
asciilifeform: trinque, ben_vulpes : Great Firewall of Great Again already being betatested eh
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: reading from top down is cheating!1111
mircea_popescu: cheating is the only acceptable mode.
asciilifeform: also memorize at least good chunks of friends' hashes , it is not a waste of brain cell
ben_vulpes: hey, all the other crap i've chewed through because linked here is inscrutable when i read the last chapter first
ben_vulpes: eg crc
trinque: looks like something fucky with their DNS setup, possibly one or more of the servers in rotation is misconfigured
ben_vulpes: what's the trilema article in re "we're being probed
mircea_popescu: !~google site:trilema.com "being probed"
trinque: chrome btw caches dns internally iirc
ben_vulpes: google apparently really needs that site flag; such AI
mircea_popescu: oh noes j got shoad
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it's been trying to pretend the rest of the world is writing interesting shit for the past year or so.
mircea_popescu: whenever they noticed that trilema does 0.1% of volume gets 1/3 of keywords or somesuch.
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Xqu8r/?raw=true << last one in the rotation is a busted server
trinque: didn't bother checking all, but I don't so much suspect great firewall of MAGA as run of the mill ineptitude
asciilifeform: that's a hefty bit of redundanthost...
mircea_popescu: maybe they had a hdd that needed repairs.
asciilifeform: re sks, might be lulzy to generate revokograms for phuctured keys and send to it. afaik they currently display ALL revokograms with the respective key. put whatever text you want...
asciilifeform: ( they also display ALL keys, incl. some misformatted. theoretically one could dump entire phuctor pubkeyset , incl. Framedragger's ssh conversions, in there.. )
ben_vulpes: heh sounds like phun
asciilifeform: i haven't been able to think of any practical reason to do this, so could not be moved. but anybody with copy of the db dump, can, if he feels like.
asciilifeform: ( iirc sks ~can~ be configured to reject pubs without selfsigs -- but not everyone did this )
mircea_popescu: trinque here's a thought : write me a branded single page "how to" somewhere, and ima modify the pay for your tits thing to only work with deedbot invoices. can then use it to push teh service, how's that sound ?
trinque: sounds like a great thing to me. will do.
mircea_popescu: once it's ready we'll get someone to hit the bimbo sites. shinohai you wanna do some work that way ? or should i have zinx hire some "Blackhat" lol.
mircea_popescu: trinque but listen, you've seen them, right ? write for indiancandy. "Here is HOW TO get paid for tits!"
mircea_popescu: lotta reassurance and lotta word-confirmation.
trinque: lol, yeah I've talked to bimbos before
mircea_popescu: trinque can prolly cannibalize large parts of eulora how-to-set-up-account guide, it's finetuned enough only about 50% of civillians end up needing handholding.
shinohai: I'm game mircea_popescu ... have nothing better to do nowadays with no qntra and my twitter acct suspended.
mircea_popescu: shinohai oh, you didn't want a reddit btw ?
mircea_popescu: and what happened to jhv
shinohai: Yeah, I'll use it when the above is ready to hit up the r/gonewilds, sexsells, etc
shinohai: Trying to find new home for jhvh1 .... lost host, don't want to put on home box yet
shinohai: Should xhamster pay me the buttcoins they owe me by end of week I'll have him back up in a jiffy.
mircea_popescu: wouldja like a buttday advance ?
shinohai: Can't hurt
mircea_popescu: aite, invoice me.
mircea_popescu: once we get the above sorted out, you can pay in stripper / camwhore forum/etc posting.
shinohai: aite ... reading deedbot help now
mircea_popescu: once tmsr isp is up we'll evidently also need a server for "vps" style shared accts.
mircea_popescu: on top of the other for classic shared wp blogs etc.
shinohai: If, when the isp is up, we need someone to manage a znc or weechat type service I can probably manage
shinohai: YOU ARE HEREBY BANNED FOR JOIN/PART SPAM. If yu wish to recconect plox 2 purchase bouncer from deedbot, thx.
mircea_popescu: not even a bad idea
trinque: this is exactly the thing the deedbot subscription system is going to be angling for, btw.
mircea_popescu: whassat ?
trinque: items like hosted IRC, whatever other SaaS
mircea_popescu: saas is a good move, everyone's lazy.
mircea_popescu: it helps if it also works ; but apparently utter unworkitude is not dissuading the "business" world.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's pile o'boxen could hold a mighty lot of znc etc
asciilifeform: once a place to plug'em in turns up.
mircea_popescu: once homed ? yeah hehe.
asciilifeform: they dun do much good sitting here in tortureroom, no.
asciilifeform: though i've contemplated plugging the one designated for phuctor, in, and running it through some cheapo 1G-of-disk rental's ip, via home pipe
asciilifeform: as temporary thing.
trinque: I dunno why you wouldn't, really.
asciilifeform: trinque: will need, laugh if you must, 2nd inverter
trinque: do processing at undefined loc; do output at whichever dumpster of the week
asciilifeform: current one's maxed
trinque: oh lol
mircea_popescu: btw, you have to pay a lot more attention to wattage when buying further boxes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: opteron means 2x the usual wattage
asciilifeform: really, surprised ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-12 21:11 mircea_popescu: once we get the above sorted out, you can pay in stripper / camwhore forum/etc posting.
mircea_popescu: and also, any amd fx 9500 for eg, in U config ?
asciilifeform: those ain't ecc
asciilifeform: so not interesting to asciilifeform
asciilifeform: but prolly exist
mircea_popescu: (amd produced different same chips, for dcs and for desktops. significant power diff)
asciilifeform: afaik they were all hogs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we had the fx 9500 ecc discussion like three times in the logs. they are.
asciilifeform: chip supported, mobo didn't
asciilifeform: so effectively a no
mircea_popescu: desktop mobo isn't useful forracking anyway.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu remembers a u-form fx mobo -- plox to link.
asciilifeform: can't hurt to have in the l0gz.
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically, but this is exactly the point here.
asciilifeform: while we're on subj -- the 'dumpster for ip, disks/cpu-horse elsewhere' gambit is (afaik pioneered, at least publicly, by mircea_popescu in mpex) imho a monumental thing
asciilifeform: fabricated warez complaint or whatever nonsense will 99% of the time take out the 'exit' box and not touch the other
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform does microatx fit u1 ? i dun recall
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in principle almost anything can be stuffed into a u1; ~literally~ anything can stuff into a u2
asciilifeform: headache is in that you'd have to drill it, find heat sinks that fit, adapt the standard sliding rail ps to fit your thing, etc
asciilifeform: i've drilled various rackmount for custom internals ( currently fitting FG, incidentally , into u1 ) and it is a manual carpentry
mircea_popescu: yeah none of that nonsense.
asciilifeform: it's only even worth thinking about if no alternative.
asciilifeform: microatx might be an exception, incidentally, it tends to be small, flat, passively cooled
asciilifeform: 'pcengines' racks a-ok
asciilifeform: ( you don't even strictly speaking need a u-case for it, can bolt 'ears' to the stock case )
mircea_popescu: ftr, amd actually does the ecc in the chip itself.
mircea_popescu: double bit detect single bit correct 144bit ddr3 sdram.
mircea_popescu: which is why "non ecc boards work fine anyway"
mircea_popescu: but that aside, eg ASUS M5A78L-M actually supports it through the very bios.
mircea_popescu: (note that the whole sert-up, ie that mobo, a modest am3+ chip, a coupla mem banks and some minimal diskage should draw <1oo W)
mircea_popescu: and that at max load.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you need a mb that actually has the sockets for ecc dimms
asciilifeform: these are not same as the luser dimms.
asciilifeform: ( elementarily, extra lines )
asciilifeform: oh here's one for mircea_popescu : asus M5A78L-M
mircea_popescu: you don't actually read my lines do you.
asciilifeform: i read the 'non-ecc board worx fine' and can attest that it does not
asciilifeform: even if you have hammer to pound the nonfitting dimms in
asciilifeform: oh hey there it is lol
asciilifeform: i'ma ll-1 parser, wat.
mircea_popescu: don't skip my blocks on first error, i often recover.
asciilifeform: the low-wattage amd champ, incidentally, is the g-series ( as in 'pcengines', 'gizmo', and other sageprobetronic boards ) -- whole box pulls 10-20w
mircea_popescu: ideally about 120-130w per u1 profile. power is expensive in dcs
mircea_popescu: (mostly because they don't want to deal with its waste product)
asciilifeform: when asciilifeform was a sysop in early 2000s, the only racked item in the dc he ministered to that drew < 300 W, was a thermometer.
mircea_popescu: lumea s-a schimbat
asciilifeform: y'know them opterons dun actually ~pull~ those 700w here on my desk, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: i believe.
asciilifeform: that's a max, for if you fill the disk cage
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724571 <<< I was almost afraid to look down, but nope - not a trap.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-12 22:11 mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the fun farms, http://78.media.tumblr.com/589660dbf388e0e58dcda2e525c10793/tumblr_no1awoaEX51urp2hro1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: typical moar like 300-400
asciilifeform: incidentally, did we ever do the 'diskless racked box' thread ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 02:58 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717726 << this reminded me of an ancient crackpotteriferous idea of mine: diskless, welded-shut box that boots into minimal sshiferous thing, privkey in boobytrapped sram etc. you fill it up remotely with os etc. and thereafter if power cut.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'pcengines' racks a-ok << Gotta mind hot/cold aisle distinction for self defense from other's heat if otherwise passively coolable
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'passive' boxes cool through the ears.
BingoBoingo: Still gotta keep out other motherfucker's hot air
BingoBoingo: Maybe can count a bit on directionality of airflow provided by other fans, but... cable induced turbulence is a thing
BingoBoingo: !!Up erlehmann
deedbot: erlehmann voiced for 30 minutes.
erlehmann: i think i can up myself if i have something to say, but thanks
asciilifeform: ^ minimal moving parts for barrettron suggested by apeloyee
asciilifeform: if anyone can see obvious 'this can be simpler' or 'this dun make sense' plz write in.
asciilifeform: FZ_ShiftRight_Secret_SubW and FZ_ShiftLeft_Secret_SubW do exactly same thing as ye olde FZ_ShiftRight and FZ_ShiftLeft , but don't leak shift amt on machine w/out barrel shifter, at the cost of roughly 10x as much work
asciilifeform: they are almost certainly unnecessary on a pc, but can't put it past intel & friends to 'optimize' shl/shr, at the very least in the 'do nothing if operand is 0' sense.
asciilifeform: mod6, mircea_popescu , phf , et al ^
asciilifeform: veteran ffaists will recognize the usual pattern -- do all of the possible ops that go into heaviest possible hamming weight of old-fashioned shiftness; but keep (via mux) only the required subshifts.
asciilifeform: and in the .ads, BitnessLog2 : constant Positive := W_Log2(Word(Bitness));
asciilifeform: ^ happens during elaboration
asciilifeform: that's all of it, i think.
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks hey there.
asciilifeform: meanwhile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lvGTgEBAw8 ( for orclang aficionados strictly )
mircea_popescu: !!key ccmtacks
asciilifeform: 'Gori Njujork, Pentagon se pali,/ Ameriko, dali su ti, dali. / Gori Njujork, Pentagon se ruši, / Krajišnici, vraćajmo se kući. / Šta će sada u Zаgrebu vlada, / Amerika na kolena pada...'
shinohai: Someone claims to have obtained copy of sound used in Cuban attax http://archive.is/XmrAa
shinohai: I'll be back in a week when the vomiting, dizziness, and diarrhea subside.
asciilifeform: 'questions of a possible microwave or radio wave device .... If that were the case, the sounds wouldn’t show up on a recording' << and anyone should believe the clip is genuine article precisely why.
asciilifeform: sounds, btw, entirely not unlike 'microwaved' audio pickup .
ben_vulpes: so i'm fiddling with some source delivery pipeline, and i discover that some asshole has put executable code into his cl .asd files; which i suppose is fine in some circumstances, but i'm doing Terrible Things over here and the asd's aren't getting concatenated with everything else and so just to add another entry to my list of folks whose decisions have made my life harder i look this dude up and can ya
ben_vulpes: believe it he proudly writes ethereum shits now
asciilifeform: wat's a source delivery pipeline
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, i can make a plain light colorized image of an ultraviolet source, but i can't make a sound pattern of some microwave ?
mircea_popescu: wtf, nobody goes to school anymore ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anybody can make anything out of anything, esp. if the inputs are fictional.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: tiny set of scripts to get all of the source for a project from box a to box b
mircea_popescu: that's part 2 of our show.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i am entirely unsurprised. the "scale bitcoin" shitheads + the "exciting blockchain technologee" shitheads + the "we are marketing" dogeheads are pretty much === the cancer that has eaten foss.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/IkTH9/?raw=true << current ffascisms list. and growing!
asciilifeform: ^ mod6 et al
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks say !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.0145
trinque: sec, lemme add his key to the right box
trinque: there's an append only thing that doesn't exist yet
mod6 looks
ccmtacks: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.0145
deedbot: You must be registered.
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks give it one moment, trinque has to fiddle the bot's guts.
trinque: ok give it another crank
mircea_popescu: trinque is this crushing you btw ? should slow down ?
trinque: nah it's the good kind of pain
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks hit it nao.
trinque: I always start with human mechanisms and then speed 'em up
mircea_popescu: me too. it's the only right way to symbian.
trinque: haw!
mod6: haha
ccmtacks: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.0145
asciilifeform: whenever i think 'human mechanism' i think of the (terrible) film 'snowpiercer'
trinque wiggles hand at asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: hm, there's no way to pay it without the number, huh. !!received-invoices step mandatory.
trinque: I could have it burp the invoice number in logs if people don't care that it does
mircea_popescu: im sure they do.
trinque: I'd have thought so yeah
mircea_popescu: the right thing would be for it to execute !!pay name if unambiguous and protest otherwise it needs an invoice number (or heck, just pay everything ?)
mircea_popescu: but still up in the air this, needs more human strokes.
trinque: anyhow ccmtacks gotta pass the decrypted otp back to deedbot like with !!up
mircea_popescu: maybe have a magic !!pay joe all ? and btw, why is it not simply !!pay ?
trinque: I don't like overloading commands
mircea_popescu hates typin'.
ccmtacks: I got decryped otp
trinque: that sends a defined amount to a person, hasn't to do with invoicing
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks say !!v wit it
trinque: don't want people sending 3 btc when they meant pay invoice 3
mircea_popescu: trinque o shit i should have just sent it to him huh. my bad, still new at this.
ccmtacks: !!v 56988162BA62D0ED252CC97D66917B8BDA0B156175326682ED0A3942D6598114
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.0145 <<
mircea_popescu: !!received-invoices
ccmtacks: done
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks 1sec
mircea_popescu: !!pay-invoice ccmtacks 1
mircea_popescu: trinque oh it counts PER NICK. this is very workable then.
mircea_popescu: i daresay it's the right thing as it is.
trinque: yep, unique between you and other party
trinque: i.e. if you invoice him it'll be 2
mircea_popescu: ya, perfect.
mircea_popescu: this way you have a passive "your books and my books gotta match yo" extra accounbting check there.
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks you're good to go. can see your btc wallet with !!balance and can also !!withdraw if you wanna sell it etc.
mircea_popescu: or can keep it there, it's safe. DO NOT LOSE YOUR PGP KEY though.
mircea_popescu: !!pay-invoice shinohai 1
ccmtacks: !!balance
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks sorry i fucked it up. try again now.
ccmtacks: !!balance
ccmtacks: !!withdraw 0.0145 32uGGc1G4Cytie5zXa8gGWZJvdyM2KncX5
ccmtacks: !!v 22201C7FC5E2694EBCF2F5240D0507A41EE8C2F0FDC7C2179622E424142A1556
ccmtacks: mircea_popescu, during the withdraw process, if I don't receive any response from deedbot, when I give him the encrypted OTP, does it mean that I have to do all the process again ?
mircea_popescu: you put an extra space after the v
ccmtacks: I did left one
ccmtacks: I will try again
ccmtacks: !!withdraw 0.0145 32uGGc1G4Cytie5zXa8gGWZJvdyM2KncX5
trinque: hold on. what are addresses starting with 3 again?
mircea_popescu: trinque it doesn't pay 3s ?
asciilifeform: how would trb pay a 3, lol
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks need proper bitcoin address, 1-led.
ccmtacks: !!v 58E3CD3F416C32C575F676B62CC83B062D2AF5E9E7D384C3F3150E2817C6F44A
ccmtacks: mircea_popescu, I've received a message from deedbot that the amount of coins will be transfered to desired btc address
ccmtacks: so I guess everything is fine now
trinque: ...
trinque: lol, hi ccmtacks. I'm the operator of deedbot
asciilifeform: trinque: looks like eggog ?
trinque: not eggog, it's a string
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks yeah but trinque runs it and if he says it won't then i tend to believe him.
trinque: asciilifeform: there's no hot wallet here; I'm marching my ass over to another box and making signed tx, then popping into a trb with polarbeard patch for sendrawtransaction
ccmtacks: ah, sorry trinque, I didn't know that
mircea_popescu: this sounds like great slavegirl punishment.
asciilifeform: woah srs hand-crank reactor rod control
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks sorry for all the hassle ; re-do once more, use a 1something address like god meant it.
trinque: idea is to tighten the loop until it is a matter of <1min
mircea_popescu: i believe.
trinque: then from there, hot wallet, but one where refilling it is both human operated and quite easy
mircea_popescu: in other news, zinx sex got camhos lined up for http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-12#1724491 already.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-12 20:52 mircea_popescu: trinque here's a thought : write me a branded single page "how to" somewhere, and ima modify the pay for your tits thing to only work with deedbot invoices. can then use it to push teh service, how's that sound ?
ccmtacks: !!withdraw 0.0145 1JxsMSnFZdNdVnnDqiTV4aAYM3sESdbPrE
mircea_popescu: obviously, i mean sez not sex. but anyway.
ccmtacks: !!v 9E0C56CF6821F571DF1F6D81BC05291FD0506A8F574D423CAA51B1650FF6DD29
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks say the !!v again, single space.
ccmtacks: !!v 9E0C56CF6821F571DF1F6D81BC05291FD0506A8F574D423CAA51B1650FF6DD29
mircea_popescu: still two spaces...
ccmtacks: I don't get it, I only type one space and it gives me two
mircea_popescu: that's weird.
ccmtacks: !!v 9E0C56CF6821F571DF1F6D81BC05291FD0506A8F574D423CAA51B1650FF6DD29
mircea_popescu: say there you go.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, macs give double \n windows give double \s
ccmtacks: ok, I believe that now is everything ok
mircea_popescu: well done!
trinque: ccmtacks: actual amount will be less the tx fee. I'll fire that off in a bit.
mircea_popescu: o darn i forgot the tx fee.
ccmtacks: trinque: ok, no problem at all.
trinque: nbd. there needs to be a whole tx weighing mechanism in order to let people know what that amount will be in the response.
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks next time, remind me i'll tack on an extra coupla bucks.
ccmtacks: ok mate, no problem. I wanted to ask you regarding the fees, however, this time I've just been looking to do everything right
mircea_popescu: anyway, simple way to sell anything for bitcoin : get a !!deposit from deedbot, give out that address.
trinque: well, give out the amount. otherwise it's not going to right account
mircea_popescu: make sure you get exact ammts though, otherwise there's trouble. if deedbot says 0.044236666 then make sure op sends exactly, all the way to the 6666.
trinque: sorry, jumped the gun.
trinque: this thing obviously pairs up with a buy/sell board quite well
trinque: so much to do
mircea_popescu: trinque zinx ran me a grand or so so far, but i would way the fuck rather blow a grand on that than what the fuck is the alternative
mircea_popescu: pay a coupla dumb hos who don't even hooker for a living to sit among some plastic shits at a "conference", spend 10x that much ?
ccmtacks: Noted, I've read a lot of the help material, so I actually get it how it all works now, well a good part of it :)
mircea_popescu: ccmtacks the important part is that unlike websites etc it's actually secure.
mircea_popescu: as long as you keep your rsa key safe, of course.
ccmtacks: yeah, I get it now
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i don't get it, i can make a plain light colorized image of an ultraviolet source, but i can't make a sound pattern of some microwave ? << AHA, like "traffic safety" radar
trinque: mircea_popescu: I'm gonna post a tutorial on deedbot.org tonight, and also hook up the newb nick+key conveyor
mircea_popescu: trinque don't sweat it, she'll do it when i tell her to, what. tomorrow, monday, whatever.
trinque: aite
trinque: buy sell board does appear within reach now huh.
mircea_popescu: take it ezzy so you last teh long haul.
mircea_popescu: trinque can directly push lobbes 's bot into it, what more is needed ? we have all the parts.
mircea_popescu: ~only thing really needed is proper hosting.
trinque: oh hey it's got auctions, doesn't it
trinque: !@help
trinque: !Qhelp
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-13#1724705 <<< ty mircea_popescu will do! :)
a111: Logged on 2017-10-13 01:23 mircea_popescu: shinohai http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iLf2O/?raw=true
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-10-11 21:42:21: <diana_coman> !QAuction 2.86mn 48 29173 Flotsam q62
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/4aUZ8/?raw=true Jolo returns from his day off
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo eh i really don't need all of these.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: k, I'll wait for ones with numbers
asciilifeform: 'we only need one victory' (tm)(r)
mircea_popescu: god's honest truth.
BingoBoingo: Still, the Asian cador continues to impress.
BingoBoingo: !!Up saot
deedbot: saot voiced for 30 minutes.
saot: Hi there
saot: I'm just lurking
BingoBoingo: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
saot: i don't know what he does, he wrecks his life
BingoBoingo: Oh, is that good or bad for you?
saot: bad but it doesn't affect me
BingoBoingo: Maybe one of these days hitting a rock bottom will give him an opportunity for a spiritual experience? Anyways, what are you lurking for?
saot: some mental stimulation, cool corners of the internet are good to find unusual options
saot: i think this is one of them
BingoBoingo: So, who's your favorite? Any memes here you are a fan of?
saot: I like 4chan but recently i find it boring
BingoBoingo: Ah, why not register a key? Make yourself at home?
saot: i'm not fan of a specific meme but throwing communists out of helicopters sounds fun
saot: how do i do it?
BingoBoingo: !!help
BingoBoingo: ^ There are the instructions
BingoBoingo: !!up saot
deedbot: saot voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: So, anyone in the Repulic have any ideas on network switching equipment?
ben_vulpes: my trinqulator sez "mac mini with openbsd"
trinque: lol
trinque checks over his shoulder
a111: Logged on 2017-10-13 03:11 BingoBoingo: So, anyone in the Repulic have any ideas on network switching equipment?
BingoBoingo: How many mac minis are necessary to bond together a 14 Gbps link to the worl?
BingoBoingo: lol alf
mod6: haha
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://ua1osm.forum2x2.ru/t18-topic << maaany great switchings to choose from!
asciilifeform: ^ last one -- from t34.
BingoBoingo: Well, AA battery as power supply means won't interfere with heat envelope too much
asciilifeform: hey BingoBoingo didja have toys like https://49.img.avito.st/640x480/3519579249.jpg in '80s gringolandia ?
asciilifeform: ^ exact item asciilifeform had; somewhat surprised that it turned up on www with minimal effort
BingoBoingo: Actually, sort of. As late as 1994-ish
BingoBoingo: Were sold at local bookstore. There was even electricity kit where lightbulb, battery, and wire was offered.
asciilifeform: not quite same
asciilifeform: here was explicit teaching of useful 13337ski111z for dyin'formotherland
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