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mircea_popescu: this a) re an ip that hasn't sent any mail in the past i dunno, six months ? and b) from the phuctor people.
mircea_popescu: so im guessing that a) disk phuctor disk is never getting replaced, when it fails it faisl and b) im not going to be paying these schmucks anymore, when they turn it off they turn it off.
mircea_popescu: maybe one day there's a place to rent servers from. until such a time, so long phuctor.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 17:25 mircea_popescu: Framedragger that is EXACTLY what isp does.
mircea_popescu: it is exactly what it is, what use is pretending. so much caked youthful spunksocks.
mircea_popescu: no, sanity. wtf would everything live in same place as trilema ?
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trinque been spelunking in the trb innards a while, close to wrapped up on a few little tools to go hexstring->privkey->pubkey->addr relying solely on existing trb innards.
trinque: in the process, realized I oughta publically denounce something in the funkenstein importprivkey/dumpprivkey patch
trinque: the guy introduced a new wrapper class to... allow himself (?) to diddle an attr of the parent class marked "protected"
trinque: wtf, just make it public then, what's this autistic "no but the sticker's still there that says safe"
trinque speaking of vchSecret in CBase58Data
trinque: at any rate, the thing's HORRIBLY NAMED AND DEFINED class tree is bad enough; I don't think I'd ever sign anything that introduces yet another atop.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714098 << since might as well, "Appliquons aux sciences politiques et morales la méthode fondée sur l'observation et sur le calcul, méthode qui nous a si bien servis dans les sciences naturelles. N'opposons point une résistance inutile et souvent dangereuse aux effets inévitables du progrès des lumières ; mais ne changeons qu'avec une circonspection extrême nos institutions et les us
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 01:56 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: expand on subj plox for the l0gz
mircea_popescu: ages auxquels nous sommes depuis longtemps pliés. Nous connaissons bien par l'expérience du passé, les inconvéniens qu'ils présentent ; mais nous ignorons quelle est l'étendue des maux que leur changement peut produire. Dans cette ignorance, la théorie des probabilités prescrit d'éviter tout changement : surtout il faut éviter les changemens brusques qui, dans l'ordre moral comme dans l'ordre physique, ne s'opèrent
mircea_popescu: trinque i imagine dood just didn't know how to proceed and too weird to ask.
mod6: trinque: where do you see this?
trinque: totally possible. curse of not hanging around is not here to speak for himself.
a111: Logged on 2014-02-20 02:46 chetty: A Fatwa has been issued against living on Mars by clerics who say that trying to set up home there would be un-Islamic.
mircea_popescu: trinque always struck me as a case of "i know these people are right but i don't want them to be" internal tension.
mod6: <+trinque> wtf, just make it public then, what's this autistic "no but the sticker's still there that says safe" << oh, i misunderstood this at first pass. you mean, 'make the parent class public, instead of protected' ya?
trinque: sure, so just make it public and diddle
trinque put this in what'll end up a patch for some key tool binaries.
mod6: yeah, submit when ready.
trinque: I kinda want printf to be printf too, holy hell.
trinque obviously intending to plonk ass down in front of airgapped box and produce signed transactions
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> trinque i imagine dood just didn't know how to proceed and too weird to ask. << Not like he can't go to The Waters and consult Mithra
BingoBoingo: Or the fire waters, or wherever his kind goes
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Should be as of 8 ish hours ago, will refresh
BingoBoingo remembers the hard way having been involved in learning this
BingoBoingo off to serve the interest of Petty Justice for a few hours.
shinohai: lukejr and his "This is not consensus-compatible with the Bitcoin network."
mod6: how you doin today?
BingoBoingo: So, petty justice is demanding I get more petty
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 05:57 mircea_popescu: trinque always struck me as a case of "i know these people are right but i don't want them to be" internal tension.
mod6: just fixed my office chair.. apparently all it took was to tighten up the dial thingy on the bottom.
mod6: thing was like rocking side to side, etc. was bout to go buy a new one. herpderp
mod6: oh boy, i bettter find this.
mod6: before the thing blows my ass off.
mod6: dang, thats crazy. maybe i better back it off a bit.
mod6: the dial im futzing with doesn't have any thing to do with the piston (as far as i can see)
mod6: maybe i aught to cut myself a nice tree stump to sit on.
mod6: probably is. all you really have to do is stain the thing pretty heavy to seal in the things.
mod6: i bought a digital caliper... ima use it to measure the thickness of the baseplate.
mod6: i knew this guy who was well over 300lbs who used to jump into his seat, every time damn near.
mod6: he blew the wheels off of two chairs (at different times) that I saw with my own eyes.
mod6: piston never blew though.
mod6: just went to the website of the chinese manufacturer of this chair. php/mysql splooge.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: first i have rolex with wooden gears and now i have $2k+ plastic chair ? what kinda alt-lottery did i win ? lol
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i bought zippy nissan instead. maybe next will be porsch-uh but who knows.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> prolly suffices if you avoid 'hard landings' lol << fwiw too, i use my chair as low as it goes. fully decompressed.
mod6: i feel like im sitting on a bomb now.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 18:33 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It transformed into "Crossover" craze. iirc pete_dushenski has a blog on this.
pete_dushenski: lovely logs these last few days btw. material science, cars, some french, shite servers, and design discussions. what doesn't #t have ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 18:32 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i kinda always wondered why exactly the SUV craze stopped. i mean, once you give up on sense, there's no way to land, is there ? they could have made a DOUBLE SIZED "car", that takes up two lanes, and could carry that much more injected plastic on the frame.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 18:42 mircea_popescu: so what do rappers do now, priusen ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 18:53 mircea_popescu: dodge is making high power cars nao ?
mod6: <+pete_dushenski>
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713589 << craze just shrunk so that 4-banger engines can propel "suv". it's alive and well though. sedan is dead on a stick. << I hate driving, but i can't see myself ever not having the slut-wagon.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 18:32 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i kinda always wondered why exactly the SUV craze stopped. i mean, once you give up on sense, there's no way to land, is there ? they could have made a DOUBLE SIZED "car", that takes up two lanes, and could carry that much more injected plastic on the frame.
pete_dushenski: mod6: they're boss. very aspirational too. works on many levels : practicality, insurance policy, social cachet, and self-worth
mod6: it's a crawler. just goes everywhere. brings all the things with me.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 16:38 asciilifeform: !!!!! ACHTUNG, PANZERS! !!!!! >>>>
http://www.nosuchlabs.com/pub/dump_9_13_17.gz <<<< phuctor db snapshot, circa last night. this is likely to be the last chance for an unknown while , for anyone who wants to grab a copy.
trinque: hell asciilifeform do you want to set up a torrent so we don't choke you out?
trinque: nope, deedbawks slurpin bits just fine
mod6: so was there another dumpfile I missed with some FG stuff, or is that all contained in the phuctor blob?
mod6: oh, makes sense, was just confused by :
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 et al : same goes for the FG docs
pete_dushenski:
http://archive.is/1mz8v << ""The Clinton Foundation is willing to KILL to protect its secrets. So on HRC’s book tour, try to grab a hair from her. I must confirm the sequences I have. Will pay $5,000 per hair obtained from Hillary Clinton," the Facebook post stated. Although Shkreli's lawyer, Benjamin Brafman, argued the post fell under the right to free speech, Judge Matsumoto disagreed. "This is a
pete_dushenski: solicitation of assault in exchange for money,” the judge said. “That is not protected by the First Amendment.”"
pete_dushenski: "because gotta kamikaze in a blaze of glory. it's last call and the bar's closing" aha
pete_dushenski: new yorker gunning for clitler is closest to 'blaze' that new yorker can imagine. they live in a concrete mental cage. i dunno what you want from them.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: only really need one or two exchanges for price signal anywhere in the world. what was mircea_popescu's last estimate of off-exchange trading ? 90% ? and that was a few years ago. surely > now.
pete_dushenski: shkreli stuck around nato making billions in pharma industry SO THAT HE COULD MAKE PREVIOUSLY SCAMMED INVESTORS WHOLE
ben_vulpes: past couple of days of log have been brutal
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: he could've left nato after founding and failing first two hedge funds, didn't. he can only be judged on this action, not on woulda-coulda-shoulda.
pete_dushenski: shkreli went all-in on usg.nato with pharma play. so there he will rot.
ben_vulpes: am retrieving your phuctor dump, will confirm hashes and check in later
ben_vulpes: train station office era coming to a close; all sorts of crazy flying through the air
pete_dushenski: apparently some are in rush (see tx fees!) but why not in rush 6 mo ago then.
pete_dushenski: mebbe kids late to party are always rushed. do moar blow this way. 120% party in 20% of time!!1
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Interesting, on the fence between fodder and snore. This is where fence tend to lie, so will decide in a butt.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I thought your verdict on porshe was butt too fat for you at this time
BingoBoingo: Of interest as indictment fodder, which is why deliberation of how to go from fence to BUILD THE WALL takes time.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 03:21 mircea_popescu: the wireball idea is sound ; the rest of the crap... notrly. i'd say it's been already fully recorded as is.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> sha512: c03c68578b522fb1a9d0406ee1cbc975d58c7dabefd80d5a6848a521a53f1f0ace910f810a6ec38d682572d3055921da0627b3d240be39cf5a9c5a6cb91255d1 << confirmed
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: i realise now that the issue with 911 wasn't 911 but WHICH 911. i've refined my tastes in them to gt3 variants alone. the cs/c4s/turbo are too phat butt. it's an enormous range though (20+ sub-variants), so it only figures that there'd be one that'd appeal. much like usa itself. so i'm not a fan of nyc. big whoop! hawaii is still the tits.
trinque: 1979 is the correct answer.
trinque: my dad sold his, and I still talk to him even.
pete_dushenski: answer is always "when i was but a boy" or even "just before i was born and the world was still blessedly unburdened by my mortal knowledge"
pete_dushenski: 1979 is beautiful but needs mega investment to make race trackable.
pete_dushenski: (which is now a consideration of mine? hmm. wasn't 6 mo ago!)
BingoBoingo: Meh, get something trackable from the factory like a "Honda Fit Sport", you know it's trackable because "Sport" is in the name
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pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: tramborghini sport turbo eddie bauer edition is ultimate track-trail weapon
BingoBoingo thought eddie bauer deal was with ford so it would be a TrabanMartin or Trabguar
pete_dushenski: well usg.chrysler used to own lamborghini so it's not much of a stretch to go to usg.ford
BingoBoingo: But USG.HotPotato.Chrysler has different fashion designer associations for their inter-rectual pooperty
pete_dushenski: guy who uses a lotta american symbology in his very casual clothing line. known for sneakers too.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well, dark urban man-boy loving urban, Fat old cat lady urban, etc
pete_dushenski: varvatos'd be rich white kid who wants to look like he doesn't care but really does. like keith.
BingoBoingo: Meh, sounds like they didn't have much of a budget
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 15:48 asciilifeform: whenever i think of cheap 100%finestchinesium officechairs, i think of the famous 'overpressure piston impalement' chair.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 16:17 asciilifeform: imho it is interesting and very pete_dushenski's-porche-esque, you can buy a $2k+ chair and still plastic.
mircea_popescu: "That sheer but resistant fabric hit on the right gestalt for where our culture was at."
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 16:33 mod6: i feel like im sitting on a bomb now.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 16:37 pete_dushenski: lovely logs these last few days btw. material science, cars, some french, shite servers, and design discussions. what doesn't #t have ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 17:44 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i'm not convinced that the exchange ( any and all of them ) price have ANYTHING to do with actual reality
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714452 << the elaborate pile of nonsense usg secreted. "Data was also backed up to Dropbox in huge quantities, the official said. Congressional offices are prohibited from using Dropbox, so an unofficial account was used, meaning Awan could have still had access to the data even though he was banned from the congressional network." ie, "i promise not to use computers!!!"
mircea_popescu: wtf, really ? what alt-planed are these schmucks from.
mircea_popescu: o wait there was. well, some guy who once met trump visited a russian bath!!!1
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, cucktards hired a buncha pakis, got raped.
trinque: couldn't help but read latest trilema in the tone of "What ain't no country I've ever heard of! They speak English in What?"
mircea_popescu: and in other "what's #trilema not got ? a chance at surivival" news, what's the story on the chinese woman ? have we hired one yet ?
mircea_popescu: iirc this baby's been pregnant for long enough to make a goat by now.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo honestly if anything he's moar like dick harper (jim carrey)
pete_dushenski: anyone tried "superbithost" ? they have servers available in non-nato lands (eg. argentina, south africa, dubai), accept btc, and as of may 2017 will accept fuckgoats units by mail to the three aforementioned locales.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski if you don't stop with this sort of stupid bs ima devoice you.
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BingoBoingo: Amazing what actual sorta doom and gloom news does
deedbot: JohnDorian voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What does jamie dimon have to do with Francia Raisa wasting a kidney on some disney washout's lupus?
BingoBoingo: Right, and Francia Raisa has tits that deserve the toxin clearing support offered by dual kidneys
mircea_popescu: o lol look at that, btc down 17%, ethereum 20, bitcoin crash 25, litecoin 30. it's like harmonics.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> o lol look at that, btc down 17%, ethereum 20, bitcoin crash 25, litecoin 30. it's like harmonics. << Ah yeah, just USD noise spike. All altcoins have a few of those as they die
mircea_popescu: typical tripod websites bullshit, i waited for months to float teh ECu, day fucking after they fall over each other to print different-random numbers on their guesbook visitor counters.
mircea_popescu: fucking hell, even beginner bridge player understands the point of guards and what finesse is.
BingoBoingo: Always having more shoe to drop is important when dropping shoe
mircea_popescu: they found some israeli planes they could actually fly somewhere ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Insufficient plastic wheel chairs for sky travel?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 21:50 trinque: couldn't help but read latest trilema in the tone of "What ain't no country I've ever heard of! They speak English in What?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why do you imagine shit that's dumb when pete_dushenski does it is any less dumb whewn you do it ?
mircea_popescu: no tmsr hosting === we just close up shop. this is not fucking clear yet ?
mircea_popescu: "oh i know, i'll just find the secret retailer nobody knows about in my quest to not fucking do the job!!!"
ben_vulpes: what is 'the job' here? make friends with dc(s) and buy/rent/rack own hardware in it/them?
mircea_popescu: sign colo contracts with >1 dcs located outside of usg/nato ; buy and mail them >1 boxes. for bonus points, actually go there and install the items yourself ; and vlog the whole thing.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-14 23:48 mircea_popescu: "oh i know, i'll just find the secret retailer nobody knows about in my quest to not fucking do the job!!!"
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 00:01 mircea_popescu: sign colo contracts with >1 dcs located outside of usg/nato ; buy and mail them >1 boxes. for bonus points, actually go there and install the items yourself ; and vlog the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: this is contradictory with your actual statement, "рубли (или евро для серверов в Словакии)".
mircea_popescu: a datacenter is a physical item with a fixed physical location.
mircea_popescu: if it has doubts as to its physical location, it is an isp not a dc.
mircea_popescu: if person "has several houses", person is not person, is real estate agent.
mircea_popescu: i'd have thought this is obvious ; or at least it is to all my girls that were ever sent to put roots down anywhere.
mircea_popescu: exact same here. if they don't know where they're located, they're not any part of this discussion.
mircea_popescu: i am not interested in discussing anything with the over-dcs indirection layer. that is the fucking point.
mircea_popescu: that layer MUST be pierced. that is also the fucking point.
mircea_popescu: much like dns, and for the same reasons as the dns, it does not serve us.
mircea_popescu: and as tempting as it may be TO THE NAIVE, this "oh, i found an actually workable one" is what we've been doing for years. there's people in the logs vouching for cherry servers, the FUCKTARDS who outlook.com their email and so following.
mircea_popescu: what's to expand, we're too big to be subletting randos apartments ; must have own brownstone owned outright.
mircea_popescu: we can afford to ; and we must do so. the fact that "nobody" ever lived in any other arrangement than subletting from whoever they were sucking the cock of that month dun enter into it.
mircea_popescu: and no, i expect owning the hardware will be sufficient.
mircea_popescu: sadly, it isn't, which is why this has been a topic for many months now.
mircea_popescu: keeps the blood moving and besides you never know where the other pet is waiting for you.
mircea_popescu: make sure you reg a corp and hire a lawyer on location.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so get your citizenship, you never know when it's useful.
mircea_popescu has never experienced this wonder where citizenship is a problem ; but then again whatevs.
mircea_popescu: it's squarely in the class of issues which, provided you have a lawyer pour enough hours into it, ALWAYS gets fixed your way.
mircea_popescu: so i guess to rephrase, "so start them working on your citizenship, you never know when it's useful."
mircea_popescu: but no, "us can't make planes" or "White boy can't jump" come well short of heat death of universe, and can't be fixed in the manner.
mircea_popescu: anyway. see what local lawyer has to say. that's what they're for.
mircea_popescu: and, to be perfectly clear : this is entirely non-blocking. much like the logs, if we end up with two ALL THE BETTER.\
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so spend some bitcents buy a small place in shitberg and pretend like you live there what.
mircea_popescu: well, that there's a local party to whatever agreements ; a local someone to sue or threaten to sue ; and in general, it's a good thing to have.
mircea_popescu: why ~not~ have it ? you need the 500 bux or w/e it is that badly ?
mircea_popescu: there's overprovision that's stupid ; and then there's overprovision that's a matter of course. i've more fuel in the tank than ima going to use on the next sortie ; and more girls than i fuck and more food in the fridge than i eat and why the fuck wouldn't i.
mircea_popescu: now as to the other point : since you're making it for yourself, see if you can cram 1TB of ram in there for the phuctor box ?
mircea_popescu: and all this, of course, is going into the s.nsa books.
mircea_popescu: and you can do your own seals, as a bonus. at the very least have the girl blow on some nail polish.
mircea_popescu: inb4 alf discovers official corp in shitistan can rent warehouse, which is better arrangement for his domestic factory than shittington "house".
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 01:03 asciilifeform: ftr 500bux barely buys passage to newyork from dc, much less ru.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 01:05 mircea_popescu: and you can do your own seals, as a bonus. at the very least have the girl blow on some nail polish.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform problem is what if you hafta replace item in raid.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, what's reasonable these days ? 256gb / 1+0 4ssd raid / some intel cpu ? or can you find rackable older amds ?
mircea_popescu: so then 1, for phuctor, 1tb item ; 1 for special purpose amd, as much as it can carry, and 2 run of the mill, what's to be found at a decent price.
mircea_popescu: that much ? usual cost ~100-150 per hour of tech hands.
mircea_popescu: doesn't take an hour to do this ; but they do have nimimums so.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you want to do with own hands the correct approach is to seal the box, have redundancy in there, and just switch over, ahve the box mailed to you etc.
mircea_popescu: you can't be jumping in a plane seat every time some toshiba pos dies, it's unsanitary.
mircea_popescu: BUT what i meant was, have a box of phuctor racked, and an identical box, stored at the dc (they do offer storage), or even also-racked.
mircea_popescu: if one dies, have them mail it to you, then you mail back.
mircea_popescu: beats airpl;ane, yes. not even a matter of cost, a matter of time and wear-and-tear of the human capital.
mircea_popescu: but esp for phuctor, why bother. what are the local techs gonna do with the old hdd, not like it's not all on the web anyway
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Hillary published a book. The timing of the book's release coincides with Pelosi and Schumer moistening Herr Trump's balls.
BingoBoingo: They are going to white house dinners, and making "frameworks for future deals"
BingoBoingo: Now because of this Herr Trump is lavishing praise on them for "bipartisanship" while pantsuit's media arm is still villainizing him
BingoBoingo: next year is a congressional election year
BingoBoingo: By accepting Trump's hospitality those primary elections are getting much more expensive
mircea_popescu: in an amusing turn of events, dnc is actually shedding the jew press.
mircea_popescu: perfectly reasonable in economic terms, as they cost more than they make, but entirely incomprehensible in jew press terms, because they really thought they were princesses, somehow.
mircea_popescu: i didn't even mean financially, that part is you know, necessary bundle with the bezzle. i meant actually in ideal terms. intellectually, ideologically, however you'd call it.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in an amusing turn of events, dnc is actually shedding the jew press. << Turn out Bezos is really going to get cooked
mircea_popescu: pravda was intellectually very simple and unassuming : here's shannonized gosplan.
mircea_popescu: this is very much a work of "it was a rainy night in december, i was having my tonsils basted when i stumbled on a copy of the gosplan blablabla"
mircea_popescu: it was comparatively easy to discern bad pravda copy from acceptable ; it is nigh on impossiblew to do same for washington post, nytimes and other fishwrappers, which is why the cloud of successive layers of "discussion" and "disagreement" and "critique" and so following.
mircea_popescu: as none of this has anything to do with reality, none of it is in any way beneficial, but 100% overhead.
mircea_popescu: in other words, pravda was a cutout triangle, whereas this is a 3d pyramid. way the fuck more material sinks in.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform under the pressure of necessity, it has to be.
mircea_popescu: but look at the idiotic pieces that fucktard "economist" meanwhile entirely ...
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> most of what's in wapo, nyt, et al is just samely formulaic as pravda front matter tho << But NYT, WAPO, etc are only INTERNALLY concordant. Reconciling the different NYT and WAPO creativities is noise generation
mircea_popescu: god. wtf was the wanna-be big deal da who got von flondored recently ?
mircea_popescu: because there was some "economist" that was churning out curtis yarvinesque pieces that got similarily von flondored, except quietlier-ly
mircea_popescu: so, look at the shit krugman was churning out, or for that matter look at the shit paul graham was churning out. or yes, yarvin.
mircea_popescu: the proof positive of how expensive the idiocy was, is that they've failed to keep it up over time.
mircea_popescu: that's what "too expensive intellectually" means. they can't keep coming up with the dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: this is the thermodynamic brick wall of socialism. it's sterile in fiction.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They had wordcount and utterance count
mircea_popescu: and soudnbyte count, and quotability index and in general, before the mayo got cut by trilema & friends, it was an actual mayo.
mircea_popescu: of course that's the next step, but it's a step down in in-universe terms.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> goodenuff for nigerian spam, why not wapo. << Shannonizer doesn't do pro-Amazon lobbying and ad copy
mircea_popescu: he meant, "it's good enough for random mfa, why not good enough for ogilvy-mathers". and he has a point -- it is good enough.
BingoBoingo: Sure, but Wapo's purpose is promoting Bezos pantsuitism. If wapo shirks this Bezos gets anti-trust stick
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 03:33 mircea_popescu: but look at the idiotic pieces that fucktard "economist" meanwhile entirely ...
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : New York U.S. attorney Preet Bharara says Trump fired him - USA Today mar 11 ; New York AG Hires Bharara Corruption Guy to Look Into Trump - NYMag mar 20
mircea_popescu: september 14th says hello to you, brave soviets of yesterspring!
BingoBoingo: Preets don't have spring. Their seasons are monsoon and not monsoon.
mircea_popescu: as if there even could fucking be such a thing, as an intellectual, ie, somehow who cultivates his mind, who is left, which is to say dedicated to stupidity.
mircea_popescu: for the same money i'd like some flying submarines and you know, maga.