mircea_popescu: lol @qatar dorks, "our commitment to the us is a solid commitment".
asciilifeform: in other noose, https://hi-tech.mail.ru/news/elbruce-prices << supposedly, retail, ~2300 usd
asciilifeform: still not found any sign of reseller who would actually take an order
mircea_popescu: it helps confidence that it's misspelled.
asciilifeform: top inglisch, yes
asciilifeform: interestingly there's ~0 material in english on subj ( other than 3rd hand re-chewed crud ) -- period
asciilifeform: thing is very much not oriented for foreign market.
asciilifeform: ( mega-unsurprise )
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform got 0 replies to his inquiries from 'baikal' , incidentally. )
mircea_popescu: remember when the icbc had no listing in reich paper mills, except for something tiny in the pink sheets ?
mircea_popescu: apparently apple could buy russia ; but icbc, which not only "could" but ACRTUALLY BUYS america (not the fucking us shithole, THE WHOLE CONTINENT), that dun exist, never happened, etc.
asciilifeform: farmer does not issue stock to sell to his cows, no.
mircea_popescu: but cows ain't trying to buy it either!
asciilifeform: what'd be the point.
mircea_popescu: tgat;s the more shocking part.
mircea_popescu: anyway, didn't you get some reply from ivan turbinka or somesuch ?
asciilifeform: try it yourself, you'll get same.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2788.12, vol: 18815.04747206 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2700.0, vol: 7373.16894 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2744.5, vol: 22911.51749568 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2802.257942, vol: 14599.04950000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2780.019, vol: 9126.38685515 | Volume-weighted last average: 2767.29400839
mircea_popescu: why so little!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-failure-mode-of-abundance/#comment-122188
mircea_popescu: !!key ganabitcoins
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-failure-mode-of-abundance/ << Trilema - The failure mode of abundance
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/pbE6V >> 'The user can choose a device number that corresponds to a terminal currently in use by another user. This allows an attacker to run any command allowed by sudo with read and write access to an arbitrary terminal device. ... As before, the bug is specific to Linux systems that have SELinux enabled ...'
mircea_popescu: o look, security enabled insecurity! how typical.
asciilifeform: run moar nsaware.
asciilifeform always wondered what somebody gotta have in his crankcase instead of brains, to run selinux
mircea_popescu: dod mandated yo!
asciilifeform: you'd be amazed at what gets mandated, aha
asciilifeform: and where.
asciilifeform: still a bit of a puzzler, who ~voluntarily~ uses the thing. 'why do you have an incense burner in your house?' 'they're required at church' 'yes but...'
mircea_popescu: hey. if security were an objective state, trompi wouldn't have centered the software of females around it.
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform learned that a very recent chinese fpga board : AX516 ( http://esys.ir/images/img_Item/1158/Files/AX516_usermanual.pdf ) includes RTL8211EG , GB nic !! and cheapo.
mircea_popescu: was that blobless ?
asciilifeform: this might sound like a snore, but isn't : thing is wires as 'port', rather than as bus
mircea_popescu: so what, no dma ?
asciilifeform: in this configuration it does not in fact matter what is inside the nic (if you think about it)
asciilifeform: not unless author of fpga circuit chooses to arrange it pc-style (and why!)
mircea_popescu: this is a major development.
asciilifeform: they sell a 1GB and 2GB dram version
mircea_popescu: see alf, I TOLD YOU teh chinese will break it. did i tell you ?
asciilifeform: they didn't break anything, it's still a stock xilinx chip
asciilifeform: but major step ahead in laziness, now i dun have to draw this board
asciilifeform: to prototype xilinx+GB
asciilifeform: ( layout for high-speed fpga is a royal bitch )
mircea_popescu: the whole dispute re theory of future of computing, years ago, was you making the (otherwise very solid) case for nsa/tivo-ization, and me saying "i betcher the chinese will break it, inadvertently".
mircea_popescu: and you were "they're dumb as rocks". which is true, they are, there's no dumber beast than the asian. nevertheless -- to break it inadvertently they don't need deliberate, directed effort. they just need to be numerous and take themselves seriously. which they are.
asciilifeform: dun get quite so hot an' bothered, it's still made of traditional xilinx (which needs the massive toolchain) and still contains sdram ( for which no controller other than xilinx's , works ) but this board is actually useful -- in comparison with my existing aging 'ml501' ( as pictured in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=702 , http://www.loper-os.org/?p=797 )
mircea_popescu: no no the sky is falling!!1
asciilifeform: summary of noose piece is 'xilinx+GBnic is nao cheap, who wants -- can get'
asciilifeform: and handy demo of the principle 'sanely hooked up nic is harmless regardless of how boobytrapped, use port not bus'
mircea_popescu: goes right back to the tmsr principle of security through modularization.
asciilifeform: a board entirely like this, but minus all of the superfluous peripherals, and with sram in place of dram, would be quite spiffy ( i've a half-drawn one here, but it sits and waits for its hour )
asciilifeform: ( theoretically -- a comp needs only fpga, a few nics, some memory, and a means of hooking up hdd )
asciilifeform: even the hdd is optional
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform answer't.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/rwandan-bank-profits-up-as-us-retail-sinks/ << Qntra - Rwandan Bank Profits Up As US Retail Sinks
BingoBoingo: and yet, we live in the future and it is awesome
asciilifeform: heya mod6
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2017/the-bitcoin-learning-tournament/ << there you go, a much more proper model of reality in terms of learning.
asciilifeform: oh neato
mircea_popescu: though something tells me you'll say exactly the same re this as re the other model : http://trilema.com/2017/the-failure-mode-of-abundance/#comment-122198 ie "there's no time to consider ACTUAL meaningful models, all we have time for is nonsense. where's that happy meal ?!?!"
asciilifeform: lol notsofast.
mircea_popescu: i am in my quick days!
asciilifeform: sounds spiffy actually
asciilifeform: kinda like ye olde corewars in 'king of the hill' mode
mircea_popescu: i expect the indirection layer between "reality as is" and "reality as perceptible", rudimentary as it is, should be entirely suffcicient to go from hurr durr as displayed by academics to actual science.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the circus, http://archive.is/K1Ur0 >> 'I'm clear: if human rights laws get in the way of tackling extremism and terrorism, we will change those laws to keep British people safe.' ( Theresa May )
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-bitcoin-learning-tournament/ << Trilema - The Bitcoin learning tournament.
asciilifeform: 'your lizard majesty, we are low on moneys with which to pay for improved NN for wiretap-to-text coverters.' 'make the victims pay' 'how?' 'sell them 'convenient' voicecontrolled toys, they'll buy voluntarily'
shinohai: "Perfect! I'll take 3!"
asciilifeform: ( enjoy while still optional! see also, e.g., http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-13#1642757 )
a111: Logged on 2017-04-13 01:06 asciilifeform: the sheer idiocy of 'voice command' -- in particular, when device offers no other ui, there are cars now that can only be configured with voice ( are these only sold in anglotardistan? i can only with difficulty picture them elsewhere )
asciilifeform: !!up mathgenius
deedbot: mathgenius voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: mathgenius != loquacious
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-07#1666862 << and this is why you don't want females electable in any position of power.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-07 19:09 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the circus, http://archive.is/K1Ur0 >> 'I'm clear: if human rights laws get in the way of tackling extremism and terrorism, we will change those laws to keep British people safe.' ( Theresa May )
mircea_popescu: it's an idea that sounds great in theory, and works ok while it's new, because only golda meirs and margaret thatchers make it in. but on the long term, the fundamental whorish substrate of the female, biologically conditioned to trade cocksucking for "safety", surfaces and fucks everything up.
shinohai: Theresa May gonna cuck the entire continent.
mircea_popescu: if she gets a chance to, totally going to "leadersheep"
shinohai: Those poor British Sam's. Never will see it coming.
mircea_popescu: cuz not looking, and deliberately.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-09 21:44 jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Isaiah 3:12 :: As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-09#1554228 << it's this "are to be" which throws the whole thing off, rather than, "you are commanded to make them"
a111: Logged on 2016-10-09 21:45 danielpbarron: >> The Lord did not design men to have women rule over them. He designed men to rule over women. "The head of woman is man" (1 Corinthians 11:3), and "Adam was formed first, then Eve" (1 Timothy 2:13). This is why women are to be submissive (1 Corinthians 14:34). God has placed men as the authority (head) over women, and therefore they need to submit to this authority. Moreover, this authority was established from the very beginnin
trinque: for all I know that happened in the translation to turdlang.
danielpbarron: "are to be" is the author of that article's words; not scripture.
danielpbarron: !~bible 1 cor 14:34
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] 1 Corinthians 14:34 :: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
danielpbarron: there's your command, heh
diana_coman too busy to speak; works
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-14#1273331 << see here for the same passive aggressive thinking being thunked out of a slightly younger trinque
a111: Logged on 2015-09-14 00:35 mircea_popescu: * trinque [...] a very angry man about why what I did was below what was expected of me << for the record, i don't think very much of this entire "expectations" verbiage/bs. if you think a little about it, so would you. a) what sort of fucking powerless vulnerable schmuck lets himself get into the position of DEPENDING on a kid ? that's what you're saying. don't say that, not only is it not true it's also very stupid.
mircea_popescu: poor diana_coman
mod6: trinque, danielpbarron, et al. thx. got X built, gcc 4.9.2, etc. on the new laptop.
danielpbarron: it's only in church that women shouldn't speak, and I don't know of very many true churches
diana_coman: I find funny all the talk of no-speak, what
mircea_popescu: yeah, but it's only funny until someone loses an eye. to wit, suppose your job was to find some woman qualified to speak -- other than you. preferably, 21 something, pr pisi.
mircea_popescu: ya know ?
shinohai: Perhaps because diana_coman is equal to any 10 other women I know.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, not sure I'd have less trouble finding a man really; I get what you mean though
mircea_popescu: hey, im not much in favour of putting "men" of the sort in positions of power either.
diana_coman: shinohai, thanks!
mircea_popescu: whole "position of power" bs is so much statal crap. but on the positive side, it's definitely wringing itself out of existence, as finely exemplified by teh "tangerine in chief" etc. what exact power is it ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno why the pantsuits were so aggro re trump's twitter account. whole fucking JOB is little more than a pretext for putting "trump official" on your twitter.
mircea_popescu: what else does it do ?
diana_coman: attract fools? dunno
mircea_popescu: his bitch yello.
mircea_popescu: blows dat dick like statal "positions of power" meant something.
trinque: my lady friend put it to me thus, that woman can behave like a man in certain realms, but often means cutting off a tit, like the (possibly apocryphal) amazon woman archer thing.
diana_coman: tbh I am not sure I see much to really distinguish this sort of "it makes me happy" from the "mud makes me happy"
trinque: generalizations that broad being easily falsified and so on
mircea_popescu: wait which happy ?
diana_coman: obama-happy, trump-happy
mircea_popescu: obama i understand. basically, tiganu' satului elected mayor. he's gonna be fucking thrilled, look ma, i'm on top of the world.
mircea_popescu: ro commies did exactly that sort of thing also, back in the early days.
mircea_popescu: trinque i suppose the whole amazon loped tit thing was commentary re "stop being so damned nurturing" and the whole lacedemonian cultural shock.
diana_coman: trinque, perhaps; I don't quite buy this cutting off a tit but I can't say I spent a lot of time on it as such
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, mama lu' stefan cel mare? lmao
trinque: diana_coman: girl's also part cherokee; apparently they'd solve the cognitive dissonance by saying "ah, her? she's got a man's spirit!" and leave it at that
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yeah, and that whole "because fuck your race" thing.
diana_coman: trinque, I saw that approach in practice, yes
mircea_popescu: ie ttp://trilema.com/2016/a-complete-theory-of-politics/#selection-27.1-31.28
a111: Logged on 2017-06-07 20:18 mod6: trinque, danielpbarron, et al. thx. got X built, gcc 4.9.2, etc. on the new laptop.
asciilifeform: mod6: which machine, was it
danielpbarron: i also got something to work that i had been stuck on for a while: lilo stalling on the bios data check. seems as though the solution is to use 'linear' rather than 'lba32' in etc/lilo.conf
asciilifeform: newer biosen spew forth rubbish when asked for the classical sectors/cylinders/heads info
danielpbarron: strange thing is i can take the drive (that is, that which shows up as /dev/sda) out and put it in an identical machine and it will boot with the lba32 thing
asciilifeform: what means 'identical' here
asciilifeform: didja diff the biosen ?
danielpbarron: no, but they are the "same version" as reported by themselves
danielpbarron: the one i got it working on reports a slightly newer version, but i suspect this fix would work on the other one with same version
asciilifeform: ver num. is worth about as far as you can throw it.
mod6: asciilifeform: new laptop i grabbed. x86_64.
mod6: only thing left i gotta fix is the wireless driver
trinque: !!up juantelez
trinque: who goes there?
juantelez: Hi, trinque :)
trinque: hello, who are you?
juantelez: trinque: I'm Juan Pablo Telez.
trinque: what brings you to the forum of the Republic?
juantelez: trinque: I wanna know more about this place.
mod6: see /topic
juantelez: mod6: Thanks.
mod6: no prob.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-07 21:12 mod6: asciilifeform: new laptop i grabbed. x86_64.
jhvh1: stormy with a chance of packeting
trinque: !!up whaack
deedbot: whaack voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: whaack: hey, didn't you have a key and so on?
shinohai: Too busy whaacking off?
asciilifeform: twist : all of the zombie lurkers are long-dead
asciilifeform: they configured a box some time back when alive, and now -- this.
trinque: !!up whaack
deedbot: whaack voiced for 30 minutes.
whaack: <-- still alive and lurking
whaack is working on his "ESL" problem
trinque: curious what lang hotfix you chose.
whaack: I'm leaving the US and going to Costa Rica in about a month. In the off chance anyone wants to make some btc by renting out a place there send a msg to my key. Any advice is appreciated as well
danielpbarron: mod6, if you get wifi working can i get a recipe?
trinque: gonna depend on chip quite a bit
whaack: I've taken a few Spanish classes throughout school, I'm using duolingo, reading Breaking Out of Beginner's Spanish http://b-ok.org/book/1160411/3c0465, moving to CR (went there for 10 days, loved it), reading a textbook (Nexos)
trinque: whaack: as it happens mircea_popescu lives there now.
shinohai: whaack: seeing as how there is little Qntra market these days I offer (wot based) Spanish tutoring as well.
whaack: shinohai: I will take you up on that
whaack: and mircea_popescu if you have any advice on colón/btc interfaces or renting it would be very much appreciated
shinohai: !!key whaack
shinohai: !!up juantelez
ben_vulpes: > While America may be a nation divided on policies, we are a country that stands united in condemning Linux in all of its very ugly forms.
mod6: <+danielpbarron> mod6, if you get wifi working can i get a recipe? << sure thing
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-07#1666939 << mega-informative, lol << haha, it's a thinkpad E560
a111: Logged on 2017-06-07 21:12 mod6: asciilifeform: new laptop i grabbed. x86_64.
mod6: yay, works.
mircea_popescu: speaking of old hardware, /me just bought a bmw 320i from 2005.
mircea_popescu: whaack_ renting ? what do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: ah i see.
mod6: ah, werd.
mod6: danielpbarron: p.bvulpes.com/pastes/FFWQL
mod6: i should note, that if you end up setting a default run-level with wpa_supplicant to debug some stuff, ensure that you disable this. you want to remove that with `rc-update delete wpa_supplicant`. then add `rc-update add net.wlan0 default` in its place. this, at least for me, fires up the adapter and negotiates with the AP at boot time.
mod6: now if i can just get this touch-pad to work, i'll have "computrobox"
mod6: opera works great.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu collects vintage autos nao ??
mircea_popescu: hey, pre-electronics shitpocalypse.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: neato. manual ?
mircea_popescu: some sort of weird nazi manual without a clutch pedal.
pete_dushenski: aka 'semi-automated'
pete_dushenski: still uses torque converter but allows for driver control of gear selection
mircea_popescu: pretty much yeah
asciilifeform: lol i have one quite like it in same vintage jp machine
pete_dushenski: within limits, comps will still take over if you're driving too douchey
mircea_popescu: it's not terrible, though i never owned one before.
pete_dushenski: they're defo better around town.
asciilifeform: where is there to drive in cr..
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't want a purely automatic gearbox in this country mostly because of the grades they got.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to the volcano and to the beach.
asciilifeform: i thouht the roads were donkey grade
pete_dushenski: ... than manual. and better than normal auto because, yes, as mp said, hills
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone even makes an automatic gearbox that handles 15-20% well. cuz why would it, sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: maybe the new heavily electronic things. though... "your java applet has crashed"
pete_dushenski: the subsequent generation of 'semi-automated' have paddles on steering wheel or column. 'like f1 car'(tm). gen1 just had clicker sub-gate on centre console shifter
mircea_popescu: this one has the clicker im pretty sure.
pete_dushenski: gen2 became more common around '08-10 so that'd make sense
pete_dushenski: next gen of 'auto' is argually dual-clutch trans that pre-selects next gear and can swap cogs in blink of an eye (<200ms)
pete_dushenski: nifty tech. mostly for performance cars though.
pete_dushenski new car has dual-clutch. article on which is forthcoming :)
pete_dushenski: in other shadowy existences, icbc lives! (it dominates us repo market) http://archive.is/KyKZ0
pete_dushenski: !#s icbc pink sheets
a111: 6 results for "icbc pink sheets", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=icbc%20pink%20sheets
pete_dushenski: !!up juantelez
mircea_popescu: !!key juantelez
mircea_popescu: !!rate juantelez 1 stahp join/parting omygerd.
mircea_popescu: !!v A2D77ACE62042FB47F889F293348E7F34D77C25A18026105319B5E005218EF44
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated juantelez 1 << stahp join/parting omygerd.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you're driving it yourself?!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes naah
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-07#1666970 << entirely adequate ocr on this blob, ty whaack_
a111: Logged on 2017-06-07 22:14 whaack: I've taken a few Spanish classes throughout school, I'm using duolingo, reading Breaking Out of Beginner's Spanish http://b-ok.org/book/1160411/3c0465, moving to CR (went there for 10 days, loved it), reading a textbook (Nexos)
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-08#1667012 << i beat the shit out of this girl's vw buttrocket when i discovered it had this, aeons ago
a111: Logged on 2017-06-08 03:16 pete_dushenski: the subsequent generation of 'semi-automated' have paddles on steering wheel or column. 'like f1 car'(tm). gen1 just had clicker sub-gate on centre console shifter
ben_vulpes: learned in that day that an auto did not have to be an utter misery to drive
ben_vulpes: lag sucked though, also had no notion of matching engine speed to the new gear for slick ride experience
ben_vulpes: 'tis one thing to press bae back in her seat with a downshift, another altogether to rattle the whole crew around as the vehicle rattles around its hysteresis envelope as the geartrain and suspension return to steady-state
pete_dushenski: weirdly, dct can feel ~more~ raw and ~more~ mechanical than manual if properly engineered. low speed smoothness isn't usually part of that equation though, thus the still enormous market for slushboxen with evermore speeds. 8 ? why not 9 ? let's make it 10!
ben_vulpes: feel, yes i'm sure.
ben_vulpes: i'd love to whip one around, actually.
pete_dushenski: come to canada!
ben_vulpes: not this year, but thank you
ben_vulpes: can also rent here lol
pete_dushenski: door is open
ben_vulpes: appreciate it, but sunny climes call
pete_dushenski: border too. for now.
ben_vulpes: heh, friends have been whining, "what if you can't come back!!!1" without ever once considering the corrolary "what if you can't get out?"
pete_dushenski has sunburn from golf course today
ben_vulpes: 'tis june, mhm.
ben_vulpes: upstack, while an interesting experience i do not think i will enjoy the experience of HAHA IN ANOTHER GEAR NOW
ben_vulpes: derivatives are a thing, matching them a skill.
pete_dushenski: lol neither did i. until i stopped playing classified carey and drove the bloody things like i stole 'em
ben_vulpes: c-classified carey?
pete_dushenski: guy who spends all spare time perusing classifieds - dreamer dan, if you will
ben_vulpes: i suppose if you're only shifting when you're clear out of the power band it might not be so whiplash-inducing
pete_dushenski: it's like 'i don't think she'd be a good fuck because too prudish'. well, go fuck and see if your armchair assessment is accurate ?
ben_vulpes: i bleed ke off with the clutch, sue me
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i'd rather pull the guitar off the wall, ty
ben_vulpes: currently divesting of piles of atoms, not looking for more or more reasons to have more
ben_vulpes: not to mention gut distate for robots in my control loop
ben_vulpes: it's not "too prudish" it's "dafuq are you doing with that fleshlight"
pete_dushenski: then like looking at guitar in magazine and saying 'looks too twangy sounding for me personally'. anyways
ben_vulpes: i burn petrol very intentionally, in a curated set of petrol-combusting platforms.
pete_dushenski: fleshlight lol. isn't that guy's toy ?
ben_vulpes: not interested in innovation and disruption in my ICE stack
ben_vulpes: glad you are having fun though
ben_vulpes: in entirely other socialismos, burritogate lynch mob turns out to have been incited by white operator of feminist coworking space or some such: http://www.wweek.com/restaurants/news-restaurants/2017/06/06/the-battle-over-kooks-burritos-led-to-death-threats-and-international-outrage-we-invited-portland-chefs-to-weigh-in/
ben_vulpes: "resource center for the resistance"!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-08#1667051 << word. it's always the rats in shitholes that are really dedicated to this nonsense.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-08 03:42 ben_vulpes: heh, friends have been whining, "what if you can't come back!!!1" without ever once considering the corrolary "what if you can't get out?"
mircea_popescu: what the hell happened to "dude, if i can't get back it just means IT FUCKING SUCKED!"
ben_vulpes: lol very nearly precisely my words
trinque: what kind of joyless cunts ban burritos I ask
mircea_popescu: you know ? dumbass soviets were like this, and then once the 80s were over and shitholistan moved to arab world, they were like that in the 90s.
ben_vulpes: "i wouldn't be a member of any club that wouldn't fall all over itself to have me in it" or how did it go
mircea_popescu: "ya dude, you'll totally miss syria/libya/egypt/whateverthefuck"
ben_vulpes: i think...i'll be fine?
ben_vulpes: certainly better than eudalystan
mircea_popescu: trinque that thought makes me want to go have some more smoked trout on homemade bread.
trinque: sounds delicious
trinque: my lady made this spicy cod thing with mangos and other whatnot the other day
mircea_popescu: i distrust any non-cr mangoes.
ben_vulpes: oh the acid reaction thing?
mircea_popescu: ceviche ?
trinque: nah wasn't ceviche, but honestly the whole concoction done that way would be even better.
ben_vulpes: i'm going sour on applying heat to fish