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BingoBoingo: lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch now hosting pharma spam
BingoBoingo: Found in Spamositoryium
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Time since last block: 22 minutes and 51 seconds
asciilifeform: wtf is a 'jhvh' anyway??
BingoBoingo: A jew bot, obviously
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-eight/ << Trilema - The Story of Elliot Rodger. By Elliot Rodger. Adnotated. Part Eight.
asciilifeform: oh hey.
BingoBoingo: "I tried to ask him why he was overreacting about an argument we had two months previously, but he just glared at me coldly and told me to ”keep my proximity”. I was highly offended." << Shoulda stuck it in James' pooper when he had the chance
BingoBoingo: In the decades that come applicants to join the TMSR subpeerage will be made to audition by authoring Elliot/James slashfic
BingoBoingo: " I saw obnoxious slobs who dressed in basketball shorts and T-shirts walking with hot girls. And there I was, decked out in Armani, all by myself. It was preposterous!" << SHoulda dressed in carhart coveralls soaked in either mud or used oil
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo totally.
mircea_popescu: on both scores lmao
BingoBoingo: Just think, if the late an hero only would have followed the path of other failed sk8er kids and went punk and heroin.
mircea_popescu: or emo and gay.
mircea_popescu: or obese and sjw. or or or.
mircea_popescu: sunt atitea meserii frumoase... si trebuie-ncercate...
mircea_popescu: but anyway, with this opportunistic opportunity i now found out one alexander ludwig exists.
mircea_popescu: the people elliot envies, i swear...
mircea_popescu: an entire generation of jennifers and joshes being "actors" and "successful" in these dubious e!-like productions...
BingoBoingo: And this is how an aristocracy comes to necessarily be selected by GPG and IRC, the new one was too broken in its broken
BingoBoingo: *old one
mircea_popescu: just looking through the publicists going to town with this jennifer lawrence chick. she's... marginally not ugly. best that can be said about her. dudes got her into fucking forbes, "most influential woman" etc blablabla. reheheheally ?
BingoBoingo: She's got an average face that is disproportionately chubby compared to the rest of her body. Perfect synergy of girls in the audience feel pretty and teenage boys can still get off to the leaked n00dz
mircea_popescu: and both groups are idiotic enough to actually imagine this relates to power.
BingoBoingo: The perfect post-pre-post modern leading teenage girl played by a late something
mircea_popescu: a latte something.
BingoBoingo: "a crowd of pathetic fans who reminded me of sheep cheered from the other side" << Aka hired from craigslist. Beats McDonalds where burgers actually are not flipped, but "cooked" on both sides at once.
asciilifeform: 'studio audience'
asciilifeform: do they have the little bell?
asciilifeform: the one stalin used
mircea_popescu: they have a neon-buzzer assemblage.
mircea_popescu: "CLAP NOW"
asciilifeform: bell was for 'now can stop'
mircea_popescu: though tbh, since there's bluetooth, i'd do it with butt bullets.
mircea_popescu: "while the bullet's buzzin', the hands are clappin'"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-28#1530649 << interesting imho detail, that i think mircea_popescu also noticed - at no point is mr. hero seen to envy chix
a111: Logged on 2016-08-28 05:58 mircea_popescu: an entire generation of jennifers and joshes being "actors" and "successful" in these dubious e!-like productions...
mircea_popescu: obviously. it'd be like envying the toilet.
asciilifeform: well it is, iirc, not uncommon symptom of terminal rodgeritis
mircea_popescu: to quote that usg official, "what the azn wants are loose shoes, cheap lattes and a tight pussy to shit in"
asciilifeform: and there are folks who envy toilet before they're through.
mircea_popescu: his objection is that for some reason the toilet in his bathroom keeps overflowing, while it seems to work fine for everyone else.
mircea_popescu: ftr, if this happened to you for a decade straight you'd be pissed off too.
asciilifeform: esp if answer people gave were 'try shitting smaller' or similar
asciilifeform: 'dear sir pray tell how'
mircea_popescu: the beauty of the guy's work is that it is, in fact, quite reasonable in its own terms.
mircea_popescu: not to mention that impungning those terms is a much more difficult task than average vanilla derp intuits.
asciilifeform: how's that
mircea_popescu: that which lol
asciilifeform: those terms
mircea_popescu: so he says women are items ; and you say women are persons. how do you resolve this dispute ? "obviously" ?
asciilifeform: in the arena, with retiarii
asciilifeform: whereelse.
mircea_popescu: he kinda won that neh ?
asciilifeform: meh, what, 3 knifed and 3 / few 100s kills/shots?
mircea_popescu: iirc retiarus was pitched against one secutor.
asciilifeform: 'win' 'd be if he, say, sarinated some lizard graduation, etc.
mircea_popescu: well what sort of contest is this, where you get to decide the goalposts.
mircea_popescu: suppose we run a simpler tiered system : people with his killcount or more may speak against him. seems a pretty reasonable implementation of your "in the arena, with retiarii" idea of adjudication. and he doesn't come out too bruised from it, either.
asciilifeform: it is worth mentioning that i am a connoisseur of subj, since the performance of mssrs. harris & klebold, yet the showing of rodger was so lackluster that it slipped my attention entirely in '14
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu has point.
asciilifeform: let odin et al judge.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but this leaves a pretty serious hole for the rest of us, who you know, have pleasant relations with women and don't quite grok this "not person" immensity.
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, enormity.
BingoBoingo: engorgity
asciilifeform: where's the hole?
mircea_popescu: (enormity also means "monstruous nonsense", for the record. even if it's a secondary meaning forgotten on the web.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is the meaning i learned in school
asciilifeform: if it were 'forgotten' i missed the memo
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently it's "evil" now. whatevs.
diana_coman: hmm, doesn't it break this view of his right at the core when he expects then items to "choose" him?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman not more than the idea of the sword in the stone breaks old monarchy.
asciilifeform: or sea for moses, etc.
mircea_popescu: note that they don't get agency, he still knows how they ~should~ have chosen ; and the objection is they're malfunctioning in their alloted destiny.
mircea_popescu: which explains the complete disinterest in any sort of inductive approach (which is also how he didn't end up one of those long term abduction rapists)
diana_coman: ah, there is that indeed, he uses to choose in a certain way
mircea_popescu: more like "recognize", like they were retina scanners that ceased working.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: abduction rape quite likely resembled actual work far too closely for herr rodger to take an interest.
asciilifeform: picture the fella cleaning a cage..
mircea_popescu: maybe. my interpretation is that he took a very strict view of my earlier stand in our dispute re corectness. it was simply not possible for any sort of result to be obtained through example.
mircea_popescu: his prison is entirely of a deductive nature.
mircea_popescu: the process is evident throughout, "lottery exists, therefore it must have a winner. i am great, therefore i must win it."
mircea_popescu: he may be the last case of an intellect genuinely baffled at the process of lottery.
asciilifeform: this incidentally is not a necessary element. the other rodgers i know of, did not exhibit it.
mircea_popescu: (this was insanely common in, say, middle ages)
diana_coman: ftr what I find more mind boggling is the degree to which nobody around him actually has anything to do really and I mean first his parents; at least from his account all they do is to throw at him money above what he can in fact handle; in one view I could almost frame this as poor kid got thrown into a station so much above himself that the difference between what he *knows* he is worth (nothing) and what he has been forced t
diana_coman: o "want" is too much to handle
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not sure his equivalent has yet been produced by his country. he seems quite a brand apart.
asciilifeform: it is common today. i personally witnessed a man having bought an entire crate of tickets.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you'll be pleased to find no doubt that the enitre population of that part of the world spends all its time doing exactly this :
mircea_popescu: they take money that was thrown at them by idiot barbarians in foreign lands, and wisely expend it exactly thusly.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was the man personally insulted when he didn't win ? the crate isn't the criteria here.
asciilifeform: not afaik.
asciilifeform: baffled - yes
mircea_popescu: that's the clou.
asciilifeform: but It Was So Many!
mircea_popescu: ah wrong bafflement. need something more like "how dares it!"
asciilifeform: that'd be curtis lemay's 'it won't dare'
mircea_popescu: quite that, yes.
mircea_popescu: imo it's very close to what elliot's been doing.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, the guy with the crate seems to miss the "but I was SO worthy, how did the winning ticket DARE to choose someone else"
mircea_popescu: and very right and proper of a historical aristocrat, at that. like you know, the charge of whatever brigade.
asciilifeform: everett smiles in his unmarked grave.
mircea_popescu: one of, aha./
asciilifeform: iirc he had a daughter, who built & fired an everettron.
asciilifeform: i always picture her as a great beauty.
asciilifeform: (but in actuality afaik she was a hobo and probably won no beauty contest, but there is little record)
diana_coman: still, there are in fact inconsistencies in elliot's narrative: one second he's fighting off those boys in the truck (even with a knife!) and the next second he flees because one (ONE) boy...shouted at him
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'unreliable narrator'
diana_coman: and for all his supposed knife, all he does is to pour coffee or juice on people, I mean seriously
asciilifeform: who even knows if knife incident happened.
mircea_popescu: nah, this is how undisciplined boy behaves. he has about three seconds of bravery until norepinephrine is metabolised.
diana_coman: myeah, doesn't sound likely
asciilifeform: though he did stab a bunch of ??? in the end
asciilifeform: so there's that.
diana_coman: similarly one second he is supposedly totally and absolutely disgusted with his father (ftr I don't know who wouldn't by the sounds of it) and the next second he makes friends again because... he has been asked to by his nan
mircea_popescu: actually, by and large men are very much like fizz in soda. which is why the practice of keeping reserves in military conflict. after the first wave, fresh fighters can utterly wreak havoc on the other side.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman he sounds like he just wanted the money.
diana_coman: he certainly wanted the money (well, any money) but to me he sounded more like he was in fact searching very much for someone to finally tell him what to do
mircea_popescu: i dun see that. you mean, "what to do" as in, how to arrange the curl on forehead so girls finally behave properly ?
diana_coman: well, that is what he would have answered if you asked him, certainly; but in practice it seems more like what to do: get back with daddy, go to that college etc
diana_coman: he actually keeps saying he wants someone to take care of things, of him etc
mircea_popescu: mayhap only a woman would see that in there. i can't readily discern what part is in the painting and what part is in the natural "i'll change him" eye of the beholderess.
diana_coman: I don't think it has to do with changing him
mircea_popescu: how then ?
diana_coman: what change? he finds it too much to actually be in this nasty "unfair" world, he wants someone to make him a little bubble at least to keep it all away
mircea_popescu: like a... harem of devoted slavegirls ?
diana_coman: I suspect he would find *that* too much too
diana_coman: more like his "happy" childhood days as he says it himself
mircea_popescu: the minor tragedy of this major tragedy is that he would really have been very happy with james.
mircea_popescu: there's such a great novel in there...
diana_coman: he begs his mother to get married to a rich guy to ...save his (elliot's) life
diana_coman: and he even directly says that she should put out with whatever because ..him; and she just...refuses; nothing else; wtf
diana_coman: at 20 yo no less
mircea_popescu: but you know this is how it worked, and still how it mostly works.
mircea_popescu: woman'd better suck some rich dude's cock so her kids can get luscious brides.
mircea_popescu: IT IS THE LEAST SHE CAN DO!!1
diana_coman: I'm still waiting to get to his view of how they called the police/why
diana_coman: quite curious how he sees that
diana_coman: uhm, by the looks of it so that she can have a shit for a kid
mircea_popescu: male shyness is actually quite common, in all mammal species, and also with womans. if i had a satoshi for every historical case where the poor mother in law had to stick her worthless son's penis into some girl by hand, i wouldn't even be poor.
mircea_popescu: womans / humans lol.
diana_coman: yes, it is common; that still doesn't mean that they shouldn't be kicked to deal with it themselves; but clearly something to be started way before he was 20, there is that
diana_coman: the womans race lol
mircea_popescu: if you do that, they'll jsut gather in some cave / internet forum and bitch and whine about "hypergamy"
mircea_popescu: ie, all the bitchez go to the same three dudes. FOR NO REASON
mircea_popescu: "but your penis doesn't work" "LIFE IS SO CRUEL!!!"
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform , is georgy gapon the first case of russian autoerotic asphyxiation ?
diana_coman: bet in morroco he would have had all the caves to "gather" in and saved the shiny paint on that bmw
mircea_popescu: yeah, very ridiculous that he left, it seems to me definite they'd have paired him forcibly.
mircea_popescu: though it goes well with his complete disinterest in you know, a brothel. i suspect even if he had had a "hot sexy girlfriend", she wouldn't have necessarily known it. prolly more hand-in-handwalks than handjobs on his menu.
thestringpuller: When did Pump and Dump become a viable business strategy? It's like 1990's albania up in here.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-28 14:05 thestringpuller: When did Pump and Dump become a viable business strategy? It's like 1990's albania up in here.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-28#1530781 << there is no mention of nonworking cock in rodger..
a111: Logged on 2016-08-28 06:57 mircea_popescu: "but your penis doesn't work" "LIFE IS SO CRUEL!!!"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-28#1530763 << rodger, by all indications, was straight
a111: Logged on 2016-08-28 06:48 mircea_popescu: the minor tragedy of this major tragedy is that he would really have been very happy with james.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform chiefly because he never had a chance to test it.
mircea_popescu: azn kid, short for his age, anxious and shy. you wanna take bets ?
mircea_popescu: the "life is so cruel, my penis is small" half billion males out there are merely slightly-better-elliot, what.
mircea_popescu: anyway, straight ~to his detriment~, and th
mircea_popescu: that's the most that can be said about it.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-28 06:58 mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform , is georgy gapon the first case of russian autoerotic asphyxiation ?
mircea_popescu: extant snuff/porn he left seems to suggest it, visually.
asciilifeform: lolwat, the bloated carcass?!
asciilifeform: iirc they found him ~month later
asciilifeform: and with rope burbs on hands, and broken nose
asciilifeform: much auto.
mircea_popescu: lemme fish this out
mircea_popescu: well, drawing, but yes. that's the typical pose of autoerotic asphyxiation victim.
asciilifeform: who break own noses all the time aha.
mircea_popescu: you understand, death is not instantaneous. takes years of practice.
mircea_popescu: but in entirely unrelated news, i give you omaygawd girl : http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m060gsacfI1qgnlnoo1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: "i've lost all control of my pelvic floor! what can happen!"
asciilifeform: the kabuki face is lulzy
asciilifeform: why do american gurlz put on entire can of eyebrow black.
mircea_popescu: you should see the muslim girls.
mircea_popescu: i once covered myself in such copios amounts of kohl off a single pretty moon of a face it took a week to take it all off.
mircea_popescu: it's not so far removed from the experience of fucking an old, well used web printing press.
asciilifeform enjoys rare pet who owns 0 paint
mircea_popescu: not necessarily a bad habit, facepainting./
mircea_popescu: $up covertress
deedbot: covertress voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: and how goes the entrepreneurship covertress ?
shinohai: swimming in the corn porphyry no doubt
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-28#1530625 << my theoretical aux dwelling unit is reserved for cute hippie chixx on baby duty
a111: Logged on 2016-08-28 02:52 mircea_popescu: not much in the way of offers so far.
mircea_popescu: what's baby duty, gestation ?
ben_vulpes: holding, changing
ben_vulpes: keeping ethernet cables away from tiny fangs
mircea_popescu: "come... as you are... with tattoos or altogether bare... as a friend... as a friend. as an old enemy.
mircea_popescu: take your time. hurry up. the choice is yours, but don't be latte..."
asciilifeform: 'radio footprint'.
mircea_popescu: "we can now measure how boring you are"
covertress: ty for the music suggestion, mircea_popescu. happy sunday to you.
covertress: i don't know if you've heard or care but, my network was attacked http://cryptohustle.com/krypton-recovers-from-a-new-type-of-51-network-attack
covertress: i'm entertaining suggestions to prevent a recurrence. adding addl hashing power and/or forking to a POW/POS hybrid are my only solutions, atm.
mircea_popescu: i heard. actually iirc alf pointed out to you teh reading material, as to the unsustainability of the thing.
ben_vulpes: > affected blockchains may consider merging POS with POW
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: Error: "affected" is not a valid command.
ben_vulpes: is close angle really going to be jhvh1's command trigger?
ben_vulpes: "POS with POW" << because we have no idea how any of this works, bolt the laser stabilizer to the side of your kalash to keep rando pakis from walking off with it"
ben_vulpes: covertress: what did your dev team do to "resolve the problem"?
shinohai: no ben_vulpes i have a fix per mircea_popescu 's suggestion !~
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: gotta love nontechnical, quasiliterate 'founders'.
shinohai: but not yet deployed
ben_vulpes: shinohai: groovy, good to hear
asciilifeform: 'captain to engine room, juice more powetronium to the stabililators!11111'
covertress: ben_vulpes: we have no fix implemented, atm. bittrex and yobit wallets remain in maint.
ben_vulpes: stabiloltorz
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron lol at buttcoiners, "oh, look, bitcoin does exactly what mp said it likely will back in 2013, i wonder how come and what gives".
ben_vulpes: covertress: y'see the parallels to 'woes of altcoin' yet?
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> is close angle really going to be jhvh1's command trigger? < no. shinohai : fix it today or ima have to devoice it.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: relatedly, are you wearing +o in perpetuity now?
mircea_popescu: cuz i left it on cuz it was going to be a one minute thing yesterday. damn it.
asciilifeform: was there ever a logical reason to keep 'o' off when not actively firing ?
asciilifeform: or simple tradition
mircea_popescu: just, my process didn't properly return ;/
mircea_popescu: +V gribble
ben_vulpes: wahahaha
mircea_popescu: what the fuck was that even ;/
asciilifeform: what's 'ban on +V!*@*' do ?
ben_vulpes: "you don't understand how irc works!!1"
mircea_popescu: nothing that i can comprehend asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i don't.,
ben_vulpes: (protip: it doesn't)
ben_vulpes: at least the fleanode implementation.
mircea_popescu: i had the command ready. meanwhile i fucking lost it. god damned bullshit.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, hm? to what is that in reference?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron some thing of yours on reddit.
mircea_popescu: for the past fucking three minutes i've been trying to dig up how the fuck you do this. what a waste of evereyone's time.
danielpbarron: how to do what?
mircea_popescu: reverse the stupid shit i did yesterday with the new bot.
danielpbarron: what, auto voice jhvh1 ?
danielpbarron: /msg chanserv flags #trilema jhvh1 -V
danielpbarron: or something
mircea_popescu: there, statu quo ante.
mircea_popescu: thanks danielpbarron
danielpbarron: there's two decent subreddits I like to check out: /r/RATS and /r/watchpeopledie
shinohai shrugs
danielpbarron: also i'm subscribed to recieve updates from that captainspoogmeister guy who tells tales from fat camp
danielpbarron: lol what?
asciilifeform: phf around ?
mircea_popescu: apparently they have interwebs at the burning man.
ben_vulpes: only until the gate opens
ben_vulpes: after that you gotta be in the borg's wot
mircea_popescu: apparently i fucked up more things.
BingoBoingo: <covertress> i don't know if you've heard or care but, my network was attacked http://cryptohustle.com/krypton-recovers-from-a-new-type-of-51-network-attack << made it to qntra http://qntra.net/2016/08/not-quite-news-roundup-xtend-3-tmr/
asciilifeform fought out-of-control 'green hell' vegetation all afternoon, wishes that BingoBoingo lived nearby, would pay him handsomely to clear the crud away
BingoBoingo: Dd you spray first or cut first? Because if cut first you are doing it wrong.
BingoBoingo would have advised spray with glyphosate/triclopyr mix today. Cut in two weeks, plant annual ryegrass next day, move before ryegrass dies in May
asciilifeform: seems like Framedragger's log is dead too ?
asciilifeform: stopped at * mircea_popescu removes channel operator status from mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: dafuq BingoBoingo. my front yard is not vietnam, you don't get to poison the trees
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ah shit; it's actually not but it's probably a bug with utc and non-utc time. the latest is at http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160829 - will fix. (hey it was a hasty shit for myself!)
BingoBoingo: Then don't spray it on the trees. And if it gets on the trunk you can rinse it off. You are doing a folliar application. Not a basal application, for that you'r use the triclopyr that mixes with kerosene as a carrier oil. Not water!
Framedragger: (ah. znc is not running in utc it seems, whereas that script is.)
BingoBoingo: Triclopyr with water carrier though also likely sufficient for most green hells. Nice side effect of sparing desirable grasses and browning the bermudagrass weed.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: fix'd. thanks for spotting
covertress: BingoBoingo: thank you for the qntra :)
BingoBoingo: covertress: It's the kind of news that tends to not lead to more news
shinohai: made the not-quite-news roundup :D
shinohai: lmao
trinque: heh, qntra gives covercoin 0 more mentions til death.
trinque: sad prognosis
covertress: BingoBoingo: we'll see)
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> made the not-quite-news roundup :D << Roundup Xtend (TM)(R)!!!
BingoBoingo: covertress: It's not really a recoverable thing. WOuld be more recoverable if reimbursement for lost coins was a challenge or better an impossibility.
BingoBoingo: Rooshite on not dying while making a fortune. https://archive.is/FNUIz
BingoBoingo: WTF is a gratitude list? Moral inventory is far more useful.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i must confess that i do not see the appeal of poisoning my hedges instead of trimming.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You should have referred to them as hedges. Instead you called them "green hell" and as you live in a swamp I assumed the worst.
BingoBoingo: Something like vine honeysuckle, pokeweed, or ivy
asciilifeform: these also.
BingoBoingo: Well pokeweed demands and responds to glyphosate, or repeated applications of diquat. Other beg for triclopyric death, accelerated by snergy with glyphosate.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu didja ever have a piece re the albanian civil war ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: we might've discussed it briefly in the logs, re caritas and the 3m scamz
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i dun see what's interesting in there ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The "Mission Accomplished" banner? 1 down 199 to go!
BingoBoingo: It's like bIraq all over again!
BingoBoingo: Perhaps if USia can have Chiraq they can also have Iraqimore
BingoBoingo awaits next installment of the Elliot we call Elliot
mircea_popescu: should be a few hours
mircea_popescu: but promises to be good.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/08/florida-appeals-espinoza-decision-floridas-status-at-stake/ << Qntra - Florida Appeals Espinoza Decision, Florida's Status At Stake!
asciilifeform: ^ of interest to folks studying earliest cracks in the konsensooos reality of the international komyooonity.
asciilifeform: http://www.cwporter.com/pal1.htm << subj itself, plain text.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: now's the time
trinque: deedbot's reliably connected. I am fine with just feeding phf logs if he wants.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/Xj6wY << further mind-bender re Radhabinod Pal .
trinque: his viewer is great.
asciilifeform: 'In objecting to proposed international control of Manchuria, he asked, "Would the American people agree to such control of the Panama Canal Zone; would the British permit it over Egypt?'
asciilifeform: (yosuke matsuoka, another early bird unzipping and pissing on the komyoooonity)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it'd have been done by now if i could have.
asciilifeform: the only, afaik, still working one.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/08/28/congrats-daniel/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Congrats Daniel!
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