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phf: random lulz, sussman signed scheme-81 chip, sold as art. https://www.artsy.net/artwork/gerald-sussman-scheme i think it was listted at $1500, but i can't quite recall. i assume buyer would not try putting it on a breadboard..
assbot: Gerald Sussman | Scheme (1978-1981) | Artsy ... ( http://bit.ly/1KG2n5U )
phf: "This lot includes two Scheme-81 computer chips, signed by Gerald Sussman. This lot also includes a commemorative 3D-printed Babylonian styled tablet containing the password to a private Github repository where the buyer may access an image of the Scheme-81 chips."
BingoBoingo: is image suitable for lithography?
phf: probably going to dust in some weirdo's private collection, aka indian jones archives
ben_vulpes: > password
ben_vulpes: > github
phf: ben_vulpes: posted to observe minor twitch that this is going to produce in some people here :)
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413357 << cdn ain't what she used to be. btc is like 600 bones atm… not that that's the point, on which i agree with you that culture != $$$$ (as per http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/14/terrible-nasty-unfair-evil-no-good-money-and-its-relation-to-net-worth/). that being said, i see even fewer cultured fellows with lower net worths than with higher net worths and
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 01:17:06; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1413322 << l0l pete_dushenski, 100k usd is real money where you live ?
assbot: Page not found | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KG41Er )
pete_dushenski: i don't for a second think it's just correlation. wealth can't guarantee anything any more than obama - but can wealth, unlike obama, provide opportunities ? i'm inclined to say so. ergo wealthy man can at least materially afford personal car-computer, whether or not he can intellectually afford it is borne by whether or not he actually does.
pete_dushenski: assbot u so crazy
assbot: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!! - GIF on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1KG4dUe )
phf: ben_vulpes: what about 3d printed Babylonian tablets!
ben_vulpes: i think
ben_vulpes: i can't
ben_vulpes: what confluence of events put scheme-81 chips in the hands of people who 3d print passwords to github repos in sumerian tablet reproduction style
ben_vulpes: babylonian
ben_vulpes: scuse me
ben_vulpes: no bully phf
ben_vulpes: no bully
phf: troll proof doors
ben_vulpes: atlantean troll proof doors for my safe space
phf: sussman was there though, when mit switched from sicp to python for their intro programming course, and he defended that decision with his remarks at ILC https://web.archive.org/web/20090327115612/http://blog.snowtide.com/2009/03/24/why-mit-now-uses-python-instead-of-scheme-for-its-undergraduate-cs-program
assbot: The Snowtide Blog » Blog Archive » Why MIT now uses python instead of scheme for its undergraduate CS program ... ( http://bit.ly/1oyChao )
phf: "The fundamental difference is that programming today is all about doing science on the parts you have to work with. That means looking at reams and reams of man pages and determining that POSIX does this thing, but Windows does this other thing, and patching together the disparate parts to make a usable whole.
phf: (not a quote, but i was there, and that's the gist of it. many face palms in the audience)
ben_vulpes: this one's in the log somewhere
phf: ahah
ben_vulpes: i b'leev asciilifeform even pegged it as a cowardly apology to der fuhrer
phf: "when did they get to him!"
phf: i'm sure the chip went same way, some chinese american female student, "say, prof sussman, how about you sell your life's work to highest bidder on this hip website. it'll legitimize what you did because you're no longer just a nerd, but now also an artist"
assbot: Putin: We agreed with Obama on a statement in the framework of Syria Support Group to stop military operations in Syria – Syrian Arab News Agency ... ( http://bit.ly/1oyD4Iw )
mats: >the agreement doesn’t include terrorists of the Islamic State (ISIS) or Jabhat al-Nusra.
pete_dushenski: so what's it include ? each other's non-existent foot soldiers ?
mats: well, yes
pete_dushenski: makes sense
mats: gotta crush the upstarts making fools of obama
mats: whaddya mean usg funded AQI affiliates to fight bashar, etc
pete_dushenski: this is not unlike google and apple calling a truce but google continuing to feed patents to samsung with which to continue suing apple
pete_dushenski: !v !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.assbot.10:56b27a69c18dfcea127cebbea4d632dd4e0c2f8202a2c0875b9914364959df91
assbot: Invalid verfication string.
pete_dushenski: !v !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.assbot.10:56b27a69c18dfcea127cebbea4d632dd4e0c2f8202a2c0875b9914364959df91
assbot: Invalid verfication string.
mats: lol
pete_dushenski: wtfuckme
pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.assbot.10:56b27a69c18dfcea127cebbea4d632dd4e0c2f8202a2c0875b9914364959df91
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 10 for assbot with note: primus inter pares
pete_dushenski: well that was flailtastic
pete_dushenski: in other news, apparently $20k baby wraps are a thing.
pete_dushenski: talk about veblen goods
assbot: Project Guttenberg Vocabulary Analysis ... ( http://bit.ly/1oyEfrx )
assbot: Despite massive changes in hashrate antpool and f2pool never vary more than 2-3% distribution from each other is this just a polite fiction were are supposed to accept? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rk3Jm2 )
assbot: I’m a Former Green Beret and Here’s How I Would Bring Down Bitcoin | Bitcoin Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rk3R4S )
mircea_popescu: lmao what the fuck is this "green beret" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: look here : "DeathFromAbove writes to DPR, "It's not that easy [AA]. I'm legit. Green Beret. Friend of [C.G.]. I have access to TS/SCI files that FBI, DEA, AFP, SOCA would kill for. In fact, that is what I do ... kill. The only thing that I do . . . Don't worry DoD has no interest in you and your little website. North Korea and Iran are a lot more important. In fact, as far as the Army and Navy are concerned you are a
mircea_popescu: nobody. Petty drug dealer. But, [C.G.] was somebody. "
mircea_popescu: context for the innocent : the carl force iv derp writes from one of the numerous troll accounts on sr to ulbricht derp. it's not clear whether he's doing this thinly veiled attempt at psychology on behalf of his employer or as an independent contractor working a little moonlight, but
mircea_popescu: "c.g." is a random derp of no consequence that got nicked and passed his account over to the baltimore establishment of unintentional humour maintained on public funds.
mircea_popescu: and, to best establish the fame as well as the intellectual wherewithal of the famous "grab me and my bag" force - here's the cannonical example : \
mircea_popescu: 02/10/2013 - FORCE attempts to create an account with Bitstamp using identification documents in the name of his DEA-issued undercover identity (Nob). Bitstamp's verification process rejected these documents as not genuine. FORCE there after provided Bitstamp with his own personal identification documents.
mircea_popescu: so now - i ask again. what THE FUCK is it with "green berets" and these assonauts.
punkman: maybe it's a "polite fiction"
mircea_popescu: or maybe it's the 2010s equivalent of that epic 2000s kid with the "oh i gotta go to iraq brb" chatlog.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413402 << do we care to be explicit for the logs ?
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 02:48:21; asciilifeform: just remember boyzngurls, syntactic sugar leads to cancer of the semicolon!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413406 << basically us "college" chumpatron still experimenting with "what's the lowest qty of candy bar we give the cattle to keep getting the sweet sweet usg funds for them. like, out of the 100k per capita we get in fed funny money, what's the least we could dole out to the maggots in whose name the whole scheme is run ? maybe -100`000 in paper and $500 in chips ? for
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 04:32:14; BingoBoingo: Financial aid with MAXIMUM GPA criteria, welcome to Obama's reddimurica https://archive.is/1OnHd
mircea_popescu: a sweet sweet 199`500 total loot we can then use to build stadiums "worth" 50 trillion and that could be exchanged for "all of russia" if only we could find someone who isn't part of our circlejerk (thus has something of value whatsoever) and still credits our inane bullshit (like maybe some argentines running away with the money they stole while in government there or something)"
mircea_popescu: but bonus points for georgia naming it's nigger rape schedule the "panther retention grant". truly a case of http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/10/you_are_the_98.html
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: You Are The 98% ... ( http://bit.ly/1WnMJ3X )
mircea_popescu: "Marching gets our message out." No it doesn't, it gets CNN's message out. "We don't watch CNN, we use the internet." Yet given the infinity of the internet you still surf the same 5 websites, looking for and finding exactly what you want, like a baby playing peekaboo in a mirror over and over and over and over and over and over and...
mircea_popescu: note the very epic "200k worth of fed paper is worth $500 in candybar, on a systematic scale".
mircea_popescu: rather optimistic, a deleverage factor of 1000:1 seems lowball. but then you have to account for the general ghetto dweller's disinclination to put up with "school" as an adult.
mircea_popescu: punkman you know, the "you are destroy me" greek angerspeech is actually quite amusingly on point :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16590 @ 0.00057414 = 9.525 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "You are destroy me! You kill me and is personal and ALL YOU FAULT you are monster and give reparations for monster acts of past and you are RUIN ME FOREVER AND IS ALL YOU!" ftr. sez angry greekflag ball to derpy german flag ball. epic.
mircea_popescu: lol why the fuck is something vaguely looking like one of those world soccer cup vanity flags they use for some reason on top of the bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413416 << and why not ? i've put sluts on a breadboard that i had originally purchased as art ?
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 05:25:55; phf: random lulz, sussman signed scheme-81 chip, sold as art. https://www.artsy.net/artwork/gerald-sussman-scheme i think it was listted at $1500, but i can't quite recall. i assume buyer would not try putting it on a breadboard..
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 05:47:08; ben_vulpes: what confluence of events put scheme-81 chips in the hands of people who 3d print passwords to github repos in sumerian tablet reproduction style
mircea_popescu: truly the one... confluence, let's say, of events, let's call them.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413445 <<< well, "defended the decision". said to an audience of derps "you are too stupid to have cool things, orcs. stick with the clubs you know." and they nodded because a) who the fuck knows what weirdo foreigner is saying and b) what difference does it make to orc anyway ? no indoor voice to begin with, what ability to modulate behaviour by sounds ? that comes after.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 05:55:12; phf: sussman was there though, when mit switched from sicp to python for their intro programming course, and he defended that decision with his remarks at ILC https://web.archive.org/web/20090327115612/http://blog.snowtide.com/2009/03/24/why-mit-now-uses-python-instead-of-scheme-for-its-undergraduate-cs-program
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413452 << when they stopped making sluts that go on breadboards, they "got to him". what's to get. suppose you marry a woman on the criteria of she's fucking hot, and she keeps making you children and they all have the iq of an argentine. how long do you keep up the charade of "this here is a house of intellectual ppls" ?
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 05:57:29; phf: "when did they get to him!"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413453 << howling shit we exactly agree. i suppose this is good for the cult...
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 05:58:56; phf: i'm sure the chip went same way, some chinese american female student, "say, prof sussman, how about you sell your life's work to highest bidder on this hip website. it'll legitimize what you did because you're no longer just a nerd, but now also an artist"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413455 << i guess now we find out what control each side has on "their" nominal proxies. my guess would be that the us has ~complete control over the mostly imaginary steiners angriff, whereas the russian side has ~no control over the still sitting syrian president.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 06:11:28; mats: http://sana.sy/en/?p=70302
mircea_popescu: agreement to posture in the un resulting in a quick dispatch of the "rebels" on the ground, expect to see them hanging / supported by visceral poles by next thurs.
mircea_popescu: yet another nominal us "ally" to meet a gruesome fate in the field when the posturing six year old for some reason dressed as a very tall nigger gets called to supper.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413461 << yeah, putin just made obama петух and that's ok because nobody knows what the crudely drawn chickens are supposed to stand for anyway.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 06:16:21; mats: gotta crush the upstarts making fools of obama
mircea_popescu: i suppose in memory of the event Bahamas' full name should be expanded to Mssr Bahamas Pedale or something.
mircea_popescu: (for the innocent log readers : what happened in syria was that obama went in pretending he is the head of a powerful nation ; putin went in as the actual head of a powerful nation. when the difference between these turned out to be an actual thing in the field, obama whipped out the checkbook, started offering bribes to the locals to hold up signs and shit reading "obama is a real stud". those guys took the money and
mircea_popescu: bought guns, eventually becoming such a problem obama had to pay a visit to putin's residence dressed in nothing but his chastity device and do a spot of work or two, in exchange for putin agreeing to take care of the problem. something like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413380 with the colors reversed, if you need visual aids, or else something like ross ulbricht "ordering clean hits" if your memory
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 01:59:39; mircea_popescu: not to be bested by kako, http://40.media.tumblr.com/a97590604ed5c32535b01684ab531cf5/tumblr_nsamq0Z0721uc64sgo7_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: of that lolpile is still fresh.)
adlai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo did my qntra submission get lost in the logs? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-02-2016#1411917
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 09:51:57; adlai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo /me accidentally a word http://dpaste.com/3WX0P03.txt
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413475 << well since the "too many unknown words" is a frequent redditard complaint @trilema, i'ma now going to have it wordcounted. i always thought i'm using a very constrained set, myself.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 06:35:48; pete_dushenski: http://www.mine-control.com/zack/guttenberg/ << go go gadget gibbon
mircea_popescu: meh, this turns out to be a fucking huge job on account of the insane variation. but the cheap result would be that between http://trilema.com/2012/me-they-say/ and http://trilema.com/2015/fun-with-pairs-of-girls/ so about 40 months or so, http://trilema.com/words_2302.txt
assbot: Me, they say... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QviLCf )
assbot: Fun with pairs of girls on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QviKy1 )
mircea_popescu: which is ~50k different phonemes, the vast majority of which are bona fide words but filtering any further exceeds my patience (and if you're curious why it stops there - once the fetlife lists hit, there's a pile of crapolade in the form of usernames that are difficult to distinguish etc). i'm happy with the estimation that "50k or maybe a little more". which would mean that... whoa!
mircea_popescu: turns out i'm actually a top spot contender ? gibbon clocks 43k ? ooook.
mircea_popescu: ima go have pie and meditate on the implications of this.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00057231 = 6.8391 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413419 << not only the masks, but the scheme (!) proggy that generated (!) them, are public, for decades, in the original paper, in fact.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 05:28:21; BingoBoingo: is image suitable for lithography?
asciilifeform: read it.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413437 << the first run of scheme81, as often is the case, were duds.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 05:47:10; ben_vulpes: oh
asciilifeform: poor old man must've found a few in his desk drawers, wanted to cash in...
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413541 << l0l, recall also the typically atrocious ocr on gutenberg.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 10:20:39; mircea_popescu: turns out i'm actually a top spot contender ? gibbon clocks 43k ? ooook.
asciilifeform: creates nyoo wurdz, it does..
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 05:56:32; ben_vulpes: this one's in the log somewhere
asciilifeform: !s sussman
assbot: 36 results for 'sussman' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=sussman
assbot: Logged on 27-09-2014 03:19:43; asciilifeform: sussman, surrendering to decay:
asciilifeform: and miners, more generally - vermin.
asciilifeform: !s mining is a bug
assbot: 5 results for 'mining is a bug' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mining+is+a+bug
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 08:48:14; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413402 << do we care to be explicit for the logs ?
asciilifeform: !s r6rs
assbot: 2 results for 'r6rs' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=r6rs
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413516 << it is elementarily unlikely that he has working units to sell. see thread.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 09:09:11; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413452 << when they stopped making sluts that go on breadboards, they "got to him". what's to get. suppose you marry a woman on the criteria of she's fucking hot, and she keeps making you children and they all have the iq of an argentine. how long do you keep up the charade of "this here is a house of intellectual ppls" ?
asciilifeform: but i will point out, again,
asciilifeform: scheme81 , ~unlike~, e.g., the symbolics processors, is ~published~
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu wanted to, could have it fabbed in two weeks without any design work.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> creates nyoo wurdz, it does.. << im too lazy too look if the guy published the wordlist anywhere and check
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33525 @ 0.00057164 = 19.1642 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46327 @ 0.00056889 = 26.355 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9005 @ 0.00056375 = 5.0766 BTC [-]
jurov: !ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
assbot: Some are born to endless night.
jurov: ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 380.1, Best ask: 382.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 381.0, 24 hour volume: 64.96945757, 24 hour low: 379.4, 24 hour high: 395.55, 24 hour vwap: 385.15243695
jurov: interesting, as if 400 eur was psychological threshold
mircea_popescu: wait wait, it went up that much ?
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker --currency usd
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 424.99, Best ask: 425.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 425.0, 24 hour volume: 28054.37486685, 24 hour low: 416.24, 24 hour high: 442.67, 24 hour vwap: None
mircea_popescu: wow the euro's weak.
deedbot-: [Trilema] The pop of the day and other items of virtual economy - http://trilema.com/2016/the-pop-of-the-day-and-other-items-of-virtual-economy/
danielpbarron: http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/29968/1/blind-fingering-dates-are-london-s-latest-craze >> The process is simple. You head to the class, strip off from the waist down, and lie across an unknown, fully-clothed man while he strokes your clitoris.
assbot: Blind ‘fingering’ dates are London’s latest craze | Dazed ... ( http://bit.ly/1OsElGb )
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell adlai not really news at this time
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: IncludeOS: A minimal, resource efficient unikernel for cloud systems | the morning paper ... ( http://bit.ly/1LEvJwn )
asciilifeform: 'A fully virtualized “Hello World” service in IncludeOS (which of course includes the necessary components of the OS) uses only 8.45MB of memory. A Ubuntu 14.04 OS image (the default guest OS for OpenStack) is around 300MB by comparison.' << idiocy. i had linux kernel AND trb in < 5 MB.
asciilifeform: (with compression- less...)
asciilifeform: 'For the C standard library, IncludeOS uses RedHat’s standard library implementation due to its small size, ' << i refuse to read any more of this crapolade.
punkman: indeed
assbot: Biological Man Set To Become National Union Of Students' Women’s Representative - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/21cZ11x )
punkman: lol
BingoBoingo: Now this is pure distilled pete_dushenski https://archive.is/5xB1g
assbot: penny the talking car ... ( http://bit.ly/21d1Csc )
shinohai: Good God what is that thing, a ghettomobile?
BingoBoingo: Well you can see the thumb that snuck into a picture there was clearly white.
BingoBoingo: Also it is advertised as being in the north (polish) as opposed to south (Obama) side of Chicago
BingoBoingo: But at one point it was clearly one of these http://www.allpar.com/eek/k/limo.html
assbot: The K-car Limousine and Executive ... ( http://bit.ly/21d3Zve )
assbot: Bitcoin Core 0.12.0 Released! – Bitcoin Core ... ( http://bit.ly/21d4pBH )
trinque: >automatic usage of tor when it's running
trinque: hey kid, you wanna buy some marijuanas on the Dark Web?
danielpbarron: they claim to use their own replacement of openssl in this version; for some reason i thought they had already done that
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: They previously used their thing for signing. Now signing + verification.
BingoBoingo: It also still calls openssl if it is called to do anything that involves making https connections (liek rpc)
BingoBoingo: !up donpillou
BingoBoingo: !up wouldibeascammer
wouldibeascammer: so, I have a dilemna
wouldibeascammer: let's say a service credits too much on my account
wouldibeascammer: if I profit from that, am I a scammer?
fluffypony: no, you're a profiteer
BingoBoingo: punkman: lol
kakobrekla: this happened to me on bitstamp in 2011 or 12, had a deposit processed twice. i reported it though.
trinque: wouldibeascammer: why are you crowdsourcing how to live?
wouldibeascammer: weirdly the wrong deposit is not the same amount
kakobrekla: something like 100 btc worth at the time irrc
punkman: I'd report it if I liked them, otherwise who cares, fuck em
wouldibeascammer: punkman: I like them
BingoBoingo: wouldibeascammer: WHy do you liek them?
wouldibeascammer: trinque: I like trolling
punkman: so where's the dilemma? did they give you a free mil or somehting?
wouldibeascammer: BingoBoingo: the operator is on this channel
BingoBoingo: wouldibeascammer: Probably best to contact them
BingoBoingo: wouldibeascammer: When you join the channel you IP was showing
wouldibeascammer: not my regular IP
BingoBoingo: details
kakobrekla: there arent that many 'operators' on this chan
trinque: davout: ? ^
BingoBoingo: Generally if you liek something you help it to flourish, report and just mebbe you get a bounty? Otherwise who knows wtf happens if you open the other door.
kakobrekla: all that i got was a request for kyc/aml procedure!
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency bgp
gribble: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency gbp
gribble: Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 296.61988, vol: 10852.34995882 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 296.070716, vol: 8038.67107 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 301.58056, vol: 58716.48510000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 298.14189, vol: 132.57348635 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 298.66428, vol: 93.6867881 | Volume-weighted last average: 300.310469178
BingoBoingo: ;;calc 300*1.4
gribble: 420
wouldibeascammer: reported it, it's annoying to put my order in while leaving out what I don't want to use
wouldibeascammer: fix your damn site, davout
trinque: heh, called it
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1413220 << btw, romanian for nail is cui. sounds exactly like куи. "nobody knows why". must be from cuneus/clou somethign, right.
assbot: Logged on 22-02-2016 22:49:58; asciilifeform: *психушка fuck this keyboard
mircea_popescu: bonus points, the beaten end's called "flower", you know, as in "deflower".
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 18:07:31; BingoBoingo: Now this is pure distilled pete_dushenski https://archive.is/5xB1g
BingoBoingo: lol maybe it also does distilled Vulpes?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413614 << i think we had this thread here back when they announced they wanna do it.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 18:20:39; trinque: >automatic usage of tor when it's running
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413618 <<< faithful to the principle of "crap may only multiply". they STILL use bdb, even if it was "replaced" with leveldb.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 18:31:00; BingoBoingo: It also still calls openssl if it is called to do anything that involves making https connections (liek rpc)
mircea_popescu: and once leveldb is "replaced", it'll still be used, also.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 19:02:29; trinque: heh, called it
kakobrekla: well, he had what like 30% chance?
trinque: IPs are geographically allocated
mircea_popescu: heh. i didn't bother look. still impressed :)
kakobrekla doesnt see joins and parts, hence ips.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Asus Complaint Opens Door To Torts For Internet Of Shit Insecurity - http://qntra.net/2016/02/asus-complaint-opens-door-to-torts-for-internet-of-shit-insecurity/
BingoBoingo: ^ Promising ground for a young jurist
mircea_popescu: to borrow from alf, "countdown for that door getting welded shut in 3, 2..."
deedbot-: [Qntra] US "National Security" Crippling Business Opportunities - http://qntra.net/2016/02/us-national-security-crippling-business-opportunities/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00057265 = 14.0013 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: in "other things jewels ripped from the forum's wall" news, Slack will repost the relevant log link when a user pastes its url into a chat
ben_vulpes: s/things//
mod6: so if i wanna a bunch of scheme code in a file and then load that file into the interpreter so I have my procedures defined without having to type them all in... how do I do that?
mod6: just put code in "foo.scheme" and then somehow load it with tinyscheme ?
mircea_popescu: what is slack ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: irc for derps
ben_vulpes: mod6: traditionally you use emacs and C-c C-k to compile the file in
mod6: !up thestringpuller
thestringpuller: who is reading slack logs?
mod6: ben_vulpes: anyway to do this without emacs?
assbot: Loading Files - MIT/GNU Scheme 9.4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1WH1ISc )
mod6: thanks ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: there is also load-from-path
asciilifeform: mod6: (load "yourfile")
phf: ben_vulpes: mit scheme is not the same as tinyscheme
asciilifeform: or put it in init
ben_vulpes: is this thing standardized or not?!
ben_vulpes back to oar
phf: ben_vulpes: mit scheme is non-standard
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.Gaxaro.2:355c11a85a20a6cb33c3c83ff573ce92d1bc4927c907dfc356b45ffba2d57c4f
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for Gaxaro with note: Euloran noob; paid back a 300k loan in a timely fashion
phf: mod6: you want to do (catch #f (load "foo.scm")), because without catch any errors in your foo.scm are going to kill tinyscheme AND terminate bitcoind without cleanup
mod6: asciilifeform & ben_vulpes: yup that worked.
mod6: :D
mod6: phf: ah, ok
mod6: i'll try that. (im just playing with tinyscheme on its own, outside of shiva/bitcoin) -- figure its a good idea to use THIS interpreter as opposed to some other one/lisp.
phf: mod6: catch is tinyscheme specific and is defined in init.scm, but load is in r5rs.ps ;)
mod6: ahh, aight.
shinohai: Congratulate me, I was nearly 90% synced on new node, had an unexpected reboot and it borked my data dir, now hafta start over :/
danielpbarron: same here shinohai :/
mod6: shinohai: wat?
mod6: oh unexpected reboot 'eh
danielpbarron: stupid me for not stopping it periodically to backup, but i wanted to see if i could get the whole thing synced in one go
mod6: f. that blows.
danielpbarron: what timing it happened to both of us at around the same time
mod6: phf: and I meant "is #<EOF> normal?"
danielpbarron: city workers did maintenance on the whole neighborhood's power without giving me any warning
danielpbarron: also lost a lunch out of it as it went out in the middle of my rice and chicken cooking
shinohai: Just weird to me though, haven't had it happen before and I have accidentally restarted the lappy 1000 times and it started back perfect.
shinohai sheds a tear for danielpbarron 's chicken-n-rice
phf: mod6: i think so, as long as you're still in repl. i think that's tinyscheme's specifics (i.e. last token is #<eof> and that's what load returns, but i'm not sure)
mod6: ah. ok.
mod6: is there a way to see what procedures are currently loaded into the construct?
phf: ...kind of
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 21:12:32; ben_vulpes: is this thing standardized or not?!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413705 << you can actually build shiva's scheme as standalone.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 21:17:59; mod6: i'll try that. (im just playing with tinyscheme on its own, outside of shiva/bitcoin) -- figure its a good idea to use THIS interpreter as opposed to some other one/lisp.
mod6: ah ok cool thx.
phf: mod6: (let ((things ())) (for-each (lambda (sublist) (for-each (lambda (symbol) (let ((value (catch #f (eval symbol)))) (if (or (macro? value) (closure? value)) (set! things (cons symbol things))))) sublist)) (oblist)) things)
phf: it's hell of slow though, because i can'e seem to find an equivalent of symbol-value
phf: actually, that code does something very odd with environment...
mod6: ah aight.
phf: so at the moment, the answer is no:)
mod6: hehehe, ok. np.
asciilifeform: mod6: (oblist) ?
phf: "what procedures"
asciilifeform: he didn't say ~only~ procedures!111
phf: :]
mod6: thanks asciilifeform
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2016 13:19:33; kakobrekla: yes, sit on the tank. great, i can sit on my phone also.
shinohai: heh butt robots.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40333 @ 0.00057266 = 23.0971 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38360 @ 0.00057582 = 22.0885 BTC [+] {3}
ben_vulpes: OH WELCOME BACK ASSBOT
ben_vulpes: PUNKMAN SENDS DINGLEBERRIES
assbot: Numerous Sites Explicitly Open To Cross Site Scripting | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1KIo4lI )
pete_dushenski: http://qntra.net/2016/02/tor-and-http-gzip-leak-local-time-zone/#comment-46961 << damn straight a tmsr proerpty is 'worse' than reddit. meaner, leaner, nastier, and all the other libertard 'worse' boxes are rightfully ticked. just as it should be.
assbot: Tor And HTTP Gzip Leak Local Time Zone | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtnYci )
pete_dushenski: *property
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 18:07:31; BingoBoingo: Now this is pure distilled pete_dushenski https://archive.is/5xB1g
pete_dushenski: i'd be pleasantly surprised if contravex isn't even at the lower end of that largest vocab list. ~15k different words over a two year and ~450k published word lifetime ? sounds optimistic, but until mircea_popescu shares secret recipe, hard to say given that other 'solutions' seem to be nothing but paid scamware.
mircea_popescu: wait, what solution ?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413526 << bahamas is more of a jogger than a cyclist iirc
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 09:18:25; mircea_popescu: i suppose in memory of the event Bahamas' full name should be expanded to Mssr Bahamas Pedale or something.
pete_dushenski: which actually goes some way to explain why he's so shit at backpedalling.
pete_dushenski: "when i, professor bahamas, said that there was a red line that shall not be crossed in syria or else i'd put boots on the ground, i forgot to mention that there was an asterix associated with that statement that nullified its supposed consequence if it turned out that i wasn't a taller, darker napolean after all."
assbot: Million Dollar Curve ... ( http://bit.ly/1KItvB8 )
phf: we can make it, we have the technology
assbot: Florida: 400-Pound Woman Survives Sexual Assault by herd of Manatees World News Daily Report ... ( http://bit.ly/1oFRLu2 )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413765 << ahahahahaha nsa wants to aes-ify the curves.
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 23:49:39; punkman: http://cryptoexperts.github.io/million-dollar-curve/
asciilifeform: (random, 'fairly selected', weak keys)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413732 << o noes i had to draw that out on paper. why u no use more matrixen
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 21:31:02; phf: mod6: (let ((things ())) (for-each (lambda (sublist) (for-each (lambda (symbol) (let ((value (catch #f (eval symbol)))) (if (or (macro? value) (closure? value)) (set! things (cons symbol things))))) sublist)) (oblist)) things)
asciilifeform: 1) paste into emacs 2) indent-region 3) profit!111!!!
shinohai: BingoBoingo: "I felt the crushing weight of one of the beasts" <<< can u make this up?
BingoBoingo: I dunno
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77050 @ 0.00056759 = 43.7328 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: Afraid she was going to die, as if obesity and diabetes are the *least* of her worries.
asciilifeform: punkman et al: why the FUCK is it necessary to standardize the curve at all ?????
mircea_popescu: shinohai odds are, he did.
asciilifeform: (if lottery-selected curve is, notionally, ok, then so is a per-key curve!)
BingoBoingo: Honestly at this point I forget what I've written where and what I haven't
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform heh. stop being unpatriotic.
asciilifeform: aaaaaaand wait for it wait for it...
asciilifeform: wait till they get to the part with 'entropy spreading'.
asciilifeform: because this is a thing, aha.
mircea_popescu: the logic of whinening.
asciilifeform: blackening.
mircea_popescu: it's not racist, for being stupid.
asciilifeform: these folks aren't even american.
asciilifeform: nobody's making them do this, omfg1111.
mircea_popescu: the bulgarian emperor is not even byzantine!!! nobody's forcing him to be retarded!!11
assbot: KncMiner Cuts Of 20% Of Employees | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjyRF3 )
mircea_popescu: agaga classicoin
BingoBoingo: Blocks 399753 and 399735
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 399775 | Current Difficulty: 1.6349165490895926E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 401183 | Next Difficulty In: 1408 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 14 hours, 4 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
pete_dushenski: ;;nethash
gribble: 1086039949.57
jurov: mod6: ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/post/btc-dev
assbot: BTC-dev New post ... ( http://bit.ly/20TVMGQ )
jurov: punkman: ^
jurov: but it's alpha, won't be surprised it if fails badly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80900 @ 0.00057558 = 46.5644 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: #Eulora log for Wednesday, 2016-02-24 ... ( http://bit.ly/1QenLiT )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106800 @ 0.00056572 = 60.4189 BTC [-] {5}
asciilifeform: jurov: very spiffy
asciilifeform: will test.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13779 @ 0.00057328 = 7.8992 BTC [+]
jurov: "whitening is racist!!!" lmao
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30431 @ 0.00056602 = 17.2246 BTC [-] {2}
phf: asciilifeform: 1) paste into emacs 2) indent-region 3) profit!111!!! << won't add newlines for you though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36028 @ 0.00056443 = 20.3353 BTC [-]
jurov: !up anondran
jurov: grr
jurov: !up anondran
jurov: !up alphonse23_
phf: but you can pretty print it with a real lisp
phf: (let ((*readtable* (copy-readtable))
phf: (*print-pprint-dispatch* (copy-pprint-dispatch))
phf: (*print-case* :downcase))
phf: (set-dispatch-macro-character #\# #\f (lambda (stream subchar arg) '|#f|))
phf: (set-pprint-dispatch '(member |#f|) (lambda (stream object)
phf: (princ "#f" stream)))
phf: (pprint (read-from-string "(let ((things ()))
phf: (for-each (lambda (sublist) (for-each (lambda (symbol) (let ((value
phf: (catch #f (eval symbol)))) (if (or (macro? value) (closure? value))
phf: (set! things (cons symbol things))))) sublist)) (oblist)) things)")))
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65169 @ 0.00056443 = 36.7833 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88474 @ 0.00056443 = 49.9374 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63527 @ 0.00056382 = 35.8178 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56000 @ 0.00057328 = 32.1037 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up changenie
mircea_popescu: omfg assbot!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00057444 = 8.674 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: !up changenie
mircea_popescu: aaand archive.is changed ip. for shame. anyone willing to run a b-a fork of the thing ?
mircea_popescu: https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/archive.is << half the world sees it as 46.17.100.191, the rest sees it as 37.97.156.202
assbot: Global DNS Propagation Checker - What's My DNS? ... ( http://bit.ly/1OtKMbT )
mircea_popescu: neither of which happen to match the 185.92.220.64 it was answering from merely five minutes ago.
BingoBoingo: Mebbe they just really are out to get you?
mircea_popescu: possibru. what do you see ?
phf: i have some lisp code to do what archive.is does from back when i was reading everything from kindle, but it'll take a few weeks for me to get it into a running service state..
danielpbarron: i also noticed their ip was weird after i pasted your /etc/hosts list into my own and it stopped working the other day
mircea_popescu: phf i am pretty sure the code's published
phf: oh then it's for somebody else to fuck around with
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron was it earlier ? i actually just loaded a page, worked fine, minutes later bupkiss
BingoBoingo: 46.17.100.191
danielpbarron: the main page would load, but when i tried to archive something that's where it would go to a new ip
mircea_popescu: us & china version
phf: person: Shevchenko Andrey address: Tussen de Bogen 6, 1013 JB Amsterdam, The Netherlands , hehe just the kind of person to run a service like that..
mircea_popescu: phf oh, you know him ?
phf: no, i know a few russian living in netherlands, and they all fall under kind of a similar stereotype
mircea_popescu: in other news, either the code vanished or i;m just delusional, but can't seem to locate it
mircea_popescu: anyway, this would be very good synnergy with deedbot, because not only can pages be saved, but sha512sums of the pages can be deeded.
mircea_popescu: now i gotta fish out the guy's email and perhaps see if he'd be willing to share ?
phf: i think ben_vulpes has been working on his own take on the service? i remember there was some noise last time question came up. anyone attempting will fast realize that it's a pita.
mircea_popescu: "The archive runs Apache Hadoop and Apache Accumulo. All data is stored on HDFS" what's the esteemed peerage think ? should be rewritten ? worth reusing ?
mircea_popescu: it is undeniably a pita.
mircea_popescu: however a lot of leeway is available re shitty sites. i honestly couldn't care less what "functionality" is lost through js being discarded out of hand, for instance.
phf: above is entirely java stack, and the quoted parts only talk about storage aspect. (accumulo is layer on top of hadoop's hdfs)
assbot: Archive.is blog — Is it possible to get the source code of this... ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0gnZN )
phf: "can't have our thing, but here's a link to a chrome extension that does nothing like what we do. run along now"
mircea_popescu: 2013 tho
mircea_popescu: phf it ~would~ be a pretty decent showcase of lisp, i'll readily grant that.
mircea_popescu: also comes with built-in revenue model, "be in the L or else pay this much dust".
phf: we can add archive/logs/patches to a single lisp project, call it assetbook and we won't need any other internet anymore
mircea_popescu: will require that ancient "assbot bitcoin wallets" thing be dusted off, but hey, unavoidable anyway
mircea_popescu: strategically i'd rather have it a set of interoperating parts than a single monster monolith.
mircea_popescu: !up laura_
mircea_popescu: i lost interest once it went "Vagina" instead of "cunt"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00056375 = 24.8614 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wasn't archive.is the fella who hosted the original unlucky dulap ?
asciilifeform: then why was my hostname something.archive.is .
mircea_popescu: well i suppose technically all russians are the same dude, but even so.
mircea_popescu: iirc we used the same dc in odessa.
assbot: Humans of Straya ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDktpG )
mircea_popescu: and the server wasn't new, so prolly got his warm bed or something.
asciilifeform: that would explain.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i read 4 words of this and barfed.
asciilifeform: can haz the gangrene back plox.
mircea_popescu: i think BingoBoingo might be bullying us.
BingoBoingo: Nah, I'm bullying the FBI log readers
mircea_popescu: but the thing IS fascinating. noticed it on okcupid back in the day, a small but present chunk of derps actually used group photos consisting of HOTTER WOMEN
mircea_popescu: i mean, leaving aside the inanity of posing with one's mother, this may be the most insane thing ever.
mod6: jurov: nice work!
mod6: i'll test that out tomorrow when i get a sec.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, none of those 4 derps is fuckable. the tall blonde has the typical ustard chin, miserable fucking feature. the jew is short and jewish. the fat one obv and the midwestern "undiscovered beauty" is benning-level psychotic)
asciilifeform: ftr, they all look exactly the same to me.
asciilifeform: like the 2 camels earlier.
mircea_popescu: fucking disjointed smile with defocused eyes omfg medicate her.
mircea_popescu: camels were seen FROM BEHIND
asciilifeform: they have ~literally~ the same face.
mircea_popescu: omfg alf sees the world like a bee-dog : in black and white and all pixelated.
phf: past first paragraph is bogus, fat girls don't act like that in clubs, that's just an overactive imagination. what they actually do is pick up leftovers, or particularly drunk guys who were attracted by the group. it's literally a scavenger strategy, and being obnoxious will ensure that the girl is never again invited with her hotter friends. (they want to get fucked too, jeez)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44950 @ 0.00056375 = 25.3406 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: phf actually that scavenger strategy is the larger part of why humans are still around.
mircea_popescu: women pick up the drunks and men pick up what the lions left off, whenever they could chase the hyenas away.
mircea_popescu: we're a scavenger species.
mod6: qq: Can something be developed to help these guys with the corrupted databases when they get a hard-reboot?perhaps something similar to cutblock that will say lopp off the last blk####.dat file or something? is this worth looking into?
mircea_popescu: mod6 it is, but big chunk and scheduled for after this scheme thing is better digested.
mircea_popescu: at least in my fuzzmind.
asciilifeform: 'after the burial parties leave, and the baffled crows have fled, the wise hyenas come out at eve, to take account of our dead' (tm) (r) (kipling)
phf: i'm not at all hating, it's more of a "a plague on both your houses" reaction
mod6: mircea_popescu: awesome. yeah, i agree we should do something there. that's super annoying that it happened to these guys.
asciilifeform: mod6: the only possible solution is a journalling fs.
asciilifeform: bitcoinfs.
mircea_popescu: that's not necessarily a solution.
asciilifeform: (ideally, running on top of a raid card with battery packs, like i have here)
mircea_popescu: for one thing, linux managed to implement journaling in such a way it barely works
mod6: ok, so that's a possible whole replacement piece, sure. was just thinking is it worth possibly making a temporary tool for this until bitcoinfs? or just wait and do bitcoinfs.
mod6: food for thought perhaps.
mircea_popescu: mod6 it's definitely possible ; ideally it'd come after a proper data model for the data.
asciilifeform: mod6: would have to replace bdb.
mircea_popescu: otherwise you'll end up with "need driven" data modelling, and god help you.
mod6: aha. ok.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bdb should be taken out ftr.
mircea_popescu: iirc there's consensus on that matter.
asciilifeform: there is no possible dispute that it must die.
asciilifeform: only question is in ~what order~ the deps must go
mod6: i'll have to go back and re-read some of our previous threads on the topics.
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asciilifeform: openssl, bdb, boost ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nope.
asciilifeform: orc variant of same.
mircea_popescu: heh. what a tryptich
mod6: i learn so many good words here.
phf: oh it's that chick that got sussman to sell his chips
asciilifeform: ahahahahaha
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mod6: i didn't know that's what you called those works of art.
mod6: phf, asciilifeform: so you know whats weird?
mod6: so in "foo.scm" i have defined a "square" procedure, but in (oblist), among everything else, its listed as: (square char-ci>=? cddddr expt)
mod6: lol, no idea how that correlates yet, but that is indeed the actual stored defintion no?
phf: mod6: no, i think it's a side effect of the way oblist is constructed
mod6: oh
phf: probably some kind of tree structure for fast lookup
mod6: alright. i was thinking with using scheme (like I was saying lastnight), we'll have to build some pretty extensive libs of procs of our own. which is probably better anyway... but, it'd be cool if this thing would tell you what you've already defined.
mod6: or do we need to write a proc for that too?
asciilifeform: the thing is quite bare bones, and will need heavy work.
asciilifeform: and i picked this kind of scheme deliberately.
asciilifeform: would you rather read 50,000 lines of mit crapolade ?
phf: mod6: i have an OP for symbol-value, on top of which you can build a pretty decent "apropos"
mod6: im actually glad for that. and personally, I don't even want to look at any other lisp really because other lisps seem to have a bunch more built-in functions that we'll basically not use.
mod6: phf: ah neat
asciilifeform: the word for what we want is - orthogonality.
mircea_popescu: ahh this insurection is coming along nicely.
mircea_popescu predicts that by the time he's dead, b-a will be bigger than fucking france.
asciilifeform: eh to be fair france is pretty small now and getting smaller
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm a modest man.
asciilifeform: will be pocket-sized soon
mircea_popescu: also, what do i care of the living. will go to the great prison in the sky, all the people there'll be impressed enough. "bigger than france ?! pasol nahui!"
asciilifeform: put in latin letters it reads almost... aztec?!
asciilifeform: the jaguar altar pyramid of pasol nahui.
mircea_popescu: pretty good.
mod6: hah.
BingoBoingo: One last bullying before I bully Zygna http://www.humansofstraya.com/tagged/Angela-Flack
assbot: Humans of Straya ... ( http://bit.ly/1VDmFxd )
mod6: She asked me if "snarffed" was a technical term, now I can point at this:
mod6: Snarf: ``To grab, especially a large document or file for the purpose of using it either with or without the owner's permission.'' Snarf down: ``To snarf, sometimes with the connotation of absorbing, processing, or understanding.'' (These definitions were snarfed from Steele et al. 1983. See also Raymond 1993.)
mod6: win
asciilifeform: one day i would like to learn how esr stole 'hacker's dictionary'
mircea_popescu: get a copy, put it online.\
mircea_popescu: what else ?
asciilifeform: but i suspect that the story is not meaningfully different from how drepper stole libc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mno, he became 'official' curator, and added a multitude of crackpot entries from own head
BingoBoingo: ESR stole it by putting it on just just in time for Google to be birthed
mircea_popescu: "official"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: he published it in dead tree
mircea_popescu: getouttahere.
asciilifeform: i have this edition here, even.
mircea_popescu: this incidentally is how that dude stole lisp
asciilifeform: so not much.
mircea_popescu: what's his face.
mircea_popescu: "published the book first"
mod6: I think they used to teach this SICP directly as the first programming class at UofM - used it as a weed-out course.
mod6: friend of mine only ever talked about "cons-boxes" for about 2 months.
asciilifeform: l0l! did they also talk for months about magnetic field lines after taking intro physics /
asciilifeform: would make as much sense.
mod6: haha. probably.
mod6: shit that was seventeen years ago.
mod6: ermahgerd
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danielpbarron: >> I told him that a child in Africa dies every 3 seconds. He was surprised at that. He said "I know black people have rhythm, but that is some amazing timing, you guys should try out for X-Factor".
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mod6: is that going to drop every tweet into a deed?
danielpbarron: it's a blog
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mod6: oh nm, ya, blog.
mod6: thought that was her twitter feed haha
danielpbarron: hm.. idk why that won't work. that's how trinque added all the others
mod6: maybe he whitelists 'em?
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