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adlai: asciilifeform: while your room 101 may contain electric anthills (used to get tease out the bitcoin you don't 'own'), /me expects to get lazzaroed for association-by-homage with the 'coinjoin scammers' or somesuch
asciilifeform: each of us will get an anthill 'entirely his own and fully adequate for him' (to borrow a mircea_popescuism)
adlai: the best use of the such
trinque expects to succumb to some pollution or diet related illness and die the usual way.
adlai: dude carpal tunnel is terminal for brogrammers
trinque: go lift weights.
asciilifeform: them that die will be the lucky ones (tm) (r) (treasure island)
adlai: unfortunately it costs less btc to keep another human alive than it does to kill yourself, and not even malthus could've foreseen this tragedy
adlai: but call me when they're paying bitcoin for aborted stem cells
trinque: how is that?
trinque: obligatory borrowed gun, bought bullet reference.
adlai: well the pay bitcoin-by-proxy for cumshots!
assbot: The Brick Testament ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3UBIH )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33950 @ 0.00047855 = 16.2468 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: there's something amazing about getting a whisker signal before assbot, and waiting to see which direction it guesses
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
adlai: fwiw (more bullshit not worth deeding) i will pay all my personal profits to date to the L1 who provides the correct conjuring of their extraction from public ticker data
adlai: it's worth a couple bitcents, wait a while and call me on this bullshit if i'm still around after we've given andreas rastapopoulous his two years
adlai: obviously this payment is only owed if the proof is in a form acceptable to any and all future investors in my shinola distillery, usg ktulu or otherwise
adlai: offer null and void for usg's L_n presence, its keys don't verify with the blessed rings
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00048678 = 4.6731 BTC [+] {2}
adlai: there's a lightning network pun in here but i'm too spent to kill the joke. nite, or morning, as the custom may dictate
BingoBoingo: <trinque> go lift weights. << Pin Tren for carpal tunnel.
BingoBoingo: !up justanotheruser
adlai: 'The fictitious people in the zoo had a big board supposedly showing stock market quotations and com-modity prices along one wall of their habitat, and a news ticker, and a telephone that was supposedly connected to a brokerage on Earth. The creatures on Zircon-101 had told their captives that they had invested a million bitcoins for them back on Earth, and that it was up to the captives to manage it
adlai: so that they would be fabulously wealthy when they were returned to Earth.' - more from kenny v
adlai invites agents of all horsemen, not just USG, to make such proof worthless; not because he's too lazy to make it worthwhile himself, but because he just wants two coins to rub together
adlai: some guy bought them off me once for a pittance by today's rates >_>
adlai: 'worthless' even if correctly produced, for the intentionally obtuse in the lurker gallery
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40283 @ 0.00048692 = 19.6146 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34517 @ 0.00049056 = 16.9327 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45280 @ 0.00048481 = 21.9522 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: !up 4886 https://youtu.be/BDxjXWQ8oro (spoilers! he dies at the end)
assbot: you're my GOD DAMN HERO.wmv - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1mg5KFm )
assbot: Satoshi's unmoved coins are the world's biggest prize in quantum-decryption, the canary in bitcoin's quantum coalmine : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1On9trc )
adlai: "The day is quickly approaching where even if someone were to sign a message using Satoshi's known coin hoard addresses, we should think twice about whether this person actually is Satoshi or not"
adlai: shut up and get in line for your trilema credits like a good boy, satoshi. your money is as good as anybody else's.
adlai notes that his own leaked keys hardly budged
adlai: so satoshi-minutes are worth somewhere between a deedbot and a bitcent
adlai: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 410.47, vol: 43067.03987488 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 407.316, vol: 25074.7603 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 411.3, vol: 127788.60787139 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 452.0, vol: 5.81748064 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 415.241712, vol: 183926.44340000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 408.0, vol: 503.19544403 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 423.192010992, vol: 194.34333951 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
adlai: ;;more
gribble: 412.850947599
adlai: oops.
adlai: pls winkledinks give me my time-btc back, i wish i'd dumped them at the parabolic fulcrum
adlai: attention SPV devils, your v3 headers become newsworthy in roughly (exp 1) days
adlai counts dots off http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ver-2k.png, sadly open source is quicker to kill than pay for itself
assbot: 404 - Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1Onb0gT )
adlai: bleh. one for the picture gallery: https://archive.is/Km6Xy
assbot: ver-10k.png (1280x800 pixels) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Onb7t1 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72350 @ 0.00048962 = 35.424 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24850 @ 0.00048373 = 12.0207 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.0004906 = 3.2625 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3021 @ 0.000483 = 1.4591 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.000483 = 8.7423 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i had no idea BingoBoingo is cajun enough to read french
BingoBoingo: I don't read french.
BingoBoingo: I violenced the text until it gave up its salient points.
mircea_popescu: hahaha. what did you gather from the violation ?
BingoBoingo: I gathered that French libertard liek rape more than MP. Seriously that brown people should rape all the FN women business is what Obama has to be thinking.
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 04:30:25; asciilifeform: 'go ahead and transmit your tx to the free^H^H^H^Hterrorist world, but be prepared to wait two years for a confirmation. or you can send to u.s. fed miner and get in the next block.'
BingoBoingo: Nordic system on crack.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo basically the french version of the redditard decided that right wing females appreciate macho men. further decided that all men are the same, and that includes him. further decided that hey, if they queue up to kneel for mp, why not for him. figured out that this is ridiculous, so instead of doing it wrote about it. everyone [that never does anything] got all excited about it, then realised it's meaningles
mircea_popescu: s so decided to delete it because if deleted it's somehow protected from its meaninglessness.
mircea_popescu: as some derpy woman said, "congrats to the winners [which is everyone]"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform specifically : to guarantee your transactions are on average included the same day, you need control over ~0.5% of the network.
mircea_popescu: to obtain similar performance to wires in this respect [delay only, not in all the others, you still get bitcoin, rather than usg-fiat moved around] you need a 0.2%ish of the network.
mircea_popescu: interdiciton is hard.
mircea_popescu: specifically to get your two years interdiction, usg needs to control 99.999% of the network, and admitting half an exahash was legit that requires they get a further 50 or so yotahashes. and that nobody else does anything.
assbot: Spectrophilia ... ( http://bit.ly/1No9cnW )
mircea_popescu: "The idea of a federal betting parlour on atrocities and terrorism is ridiculous and it's grotesque."' << so ?
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "the pornstar is brunette and tall." mkay ?
mircea_popescu: got anything at the actual topic ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1341822 << lmao the philipino dept hard at work. no, the day isn't approaching, quickly or otherwise.
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 06:01:33; adlai: "The day is quickly approaching where even if someone were to sign a message using Satoshi's known coin hoard addresses, we should think twice about whether this person actually is Satoshi or not"
mircea_popescu: for one thing, "quickly" is a non-quantum concept.
adlai: further on the "look what doesn't seem to have made logs yet" topic, the plaintext wripped from http://arxiv.org/abs/1011.0423 : http://dpaste.com/3F4D2G2.txt
assbot: [1011.0423] A note comprising a negative resolution of the Efficient Market Hypothesis ... ( http://bit.ly/1NM4jZH )
adlai: forget the businessman, clergy don't hold a candle to the nigerians
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58050 @ 0.00048246 = 28.0068 BTC [-] {3}
adlai: seems to have stolen a leaf from the book of ,,seen herbijudlestoids
adlai: fucking robots used to work, once
adlai: if androids dream of dead ghosts masturbating, but no Tulip cluster simulate their moans, does that still constitute spectrofilia?
BingoBoingo: Test all the children: "While the old ISAT test often saw as many as 95 percent of students meeting or exceeding standards, the highest-scoring school in St. Clair, Madison, Monroe or Clinton counties was Damiansville Elementary in Clinton County, with a proficiency score of 69.2 percent, and the lowest-performing school was Lovejoy Elementary in Brooklyn with a proficiency rate of zero."
adlai: what was it testing, how to compile and `gpg --gen-keys` ?
adlai: i hear you get least-positive-bignum points on the SAT for this
BingoBoingo: Kommon Kore
adlai has heard back from the latest incarnation of the Bcc funnel, this one with a request to cheatsheet https://chatsecure.org/blog/using-ed25519-public-keys-as-identifiers/ for the interview << more in the 'reinventing wot' dept
assbot: Better XMPP Identifiers - Ed25519 Public Keys and .onions — ChatSecure ... ( http://bit.ly/1NM4UKQ )
mircea_popescu: anyway, the diocletian edict is a fine example. the problem isn't even economic there, it's purely political. "oh, we have a problem we don't know how to solve, here's some red tape" "tell you what - it's not worth the risk of dealing with your red tape AT ALL. see ya". "oh noes! who could have predicted!"
adlai: crowdsourcing 'peer' review from hacker news, and they don't even pay shares by the wordcount!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.00048403 = 18.6594 BTC [+] {2}
adlai: mircea_popescu: i really wish red tape will kill all the stupid ideas dreamt up tonight
adlai: alas for i can't stuff the worst ones back into my tendons
adlai: "A comparison to gold suggests Bitcoin could be undervalued" don't go driving any nonsmall amounts, we may have to take your bullshit seriously as well!
mircea_popescu prepares the 2016 version of the "stop buying" article.
mircea_popescu: these idiots are all ready to fuck things over. "oh, it went up, buy buy buy!11"
mircea_popescu: imbeciles.
adlai: nah let them riff a little, it's their role in nature's "greedy algorithm" bullshit detector
adlai: "More investors are taking it seriously and using it as a portfolio diversifier" go on, elaborate how billionaires hedge their penny stock exposure with hard currency
adlai: next up they'll be telling you when and where to short mpex
adlai: that'll be the "shut up and buy" signal, i guess
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00048075 = 6.1776 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 14:40:00; asciilifeform: ('wizards' is where they spend all day thinking of what shit-to-bolt-on-the-side-of-the-kalash)
assbot: IRC Logs for #bitcoin-wizards | BotBot.me [o__o] ... ( http://bit.ly/1NM6NXP )
adlai: in relevant news, if STRML or anybody else from bitMEX ever shows up, i'd love to eat their fee discounts on managing DPE risk
mircea_popescu: !up STRML
adlai has no idea how to valuate that risk but when did that ever stop idiots
adlai: 3.. 2... 1.
adlai keeps poring over their arithmancy documentation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00048855 = 15.2916 BTC [+] {4}
adlai: mircea_popescu: where do you dredge up all this... and how come these sluts don't get to earn their bitcents too?
mircea_popescu: the history folder, and because they're too old now.
mircea_popescu: can't be 20 forever.
adlai: superfish business model! targeted whoring based on reverse-image-crawling links to your own naked likeness
adlai rushes to the trademark press
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00049079 = 14.6255 BTC [+] {3}
adlai: mircea_popescu: did i ever mention one of my meatspace drink buddies who denies that i quote anybody but him when referencing the "problem of too much money"?
adlai: he's now gone parroting this on to other jooz, even in the same discussion as "so uh is it a good time to buy bitcoin maybe because it's regulated?"
adlai hopes somebody has a Plan around effigy-attributed trb vpatches, because i know enough C++ to swear myself fit to neither generate nor verify that bullshit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42350 @ 0.0004872 = 20.6329 BTC [-] {4}
punkman: /me was talking at some kind of computer/security/bitcoin workshop in dreamworld
punkman: perhaps a sign
punkman: mircea_popescu: what's the mpex referal fee now?
mircea_popescu: punkman still 10 iirc.
adlai: unfortunately my meatspace acquaintances, even the ones controlling enough btc to make them worth referring, think they know where and how to best invest it - themselves
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55600 @ 0.0004848 = 26.9549 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: adlai: you might be better off talking to people that don't have any btc yet
adlai: they tend to either encourage me to keep playing around with my play-btc, or feign interest in the hope of nucleating a tradable price signal out of my sykobabble
adlai is proud to report that his meatspace btcfiat signal remains peerlessly indistinguishable from monkeys at a typewriter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105072 @ 0.00048299 = 50.7487 BTC [-] {4}
adlai: makes one feel comfortable in humanity / retardation / childishness / etc
adlai: monkeys that make good bitbet payouts! but suck at timing anything asymmetric larger than a banknote or two
adlai has a gist floating around that may be welcome (after some digestion) in bitbet.py, under the "betting both sides" department
adlai: but the tool still needs a couple more trials before pressing blueprints
adlai: ;;seen mike_c
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours, 1 minute, and 40 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already
adlai: !search from:adlai ;;seen
assbot: 29 results for 'from:adlai ;;seen' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aadlai+%3B%3Bseen
adlai: ok that's all from the broken record department (for tonight, folks)
adlai: !down adlai
BingoBoingo: * mircea_popescu prepares the 2016 version of the "stop buying" article. << I knew it.
BingoBoingo: * adlai is proud to report that his meatspace btcfiat signal remains peerlessly indistinguishable from monkeys at a typewriter << Meatspace linux signal is bullish
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36278 @ 0.00047922 = 17.3851 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22402 @ 0.00049093 = 10.9978 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41218 @ 0.00048072 = 19.8143 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00049107 = 5.4018 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56979 @ 0.00049251 = 28.0627 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00047855 = 4.1634 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62500 @ 0.0004935 = 30.8438 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: knircky comments on I'm done with bitcoin. Fees are too high. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NonvZJ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43750 @ 0.00049455 = 21.6366 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00049497 = 20.2938 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30834 @ 0.00049542 = 15.2758 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99075 @ 0.00049584 = 49.1253 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00048961 = 8.0541 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66897 @ 0.00047855 = 32.0136 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76314 @ 0.00047627 = 36.3461 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35009 @ 0.00047464 = 16.6167 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23809 @ 0.00049602 = 11.8097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29191 @ 0.00049628 = 14.4869 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2759 @ 0.00049539 = 1.3668 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55769 @ 0.00049718 = 27.7272 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41241 @ 0.00049539 = 20.4304 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41800 @ 0.00048048 = 20.0841 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32081 @ 0.00048001 = 15.3992 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00048444 = 6.4188 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46924 @ 0.00048014 = 22.5301 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134467 @ 0.00047402 = 63.74 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42752 @ 0.00047324 = 20.232 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00048443 = 10.5121 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Qntra called it https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV-Fee1UYAA96fL.png << bullshit story of all time. "oh i was hacked". the faux satoshi has everything in common with the fiat-based wanna-be bitcoin scammer.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.0004796 = 3.0455 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19988 @ 0.00047961 = 9.5864 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33500 @ 0.00048444 = 16.2287 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: in other news : how do you superimpose two images for the web, but exactly ?
mircea_popescu: (i did find the answer, a half hour of labour later, and exactly in the "basic science upon the software" sense djikstra was discussing. and i'm betting you don't know either. pos html omfg.)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65600 @ 0.00048444 = 31.7793 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15903 @ 0.00048464 = 7.7072 BTC [+] {2}
deedbot-: [Trilema] Here's who doesn't belong in Bitcoin : you. - http://trilema.com/2015/heres-who-doesnt-belong-in-bitcoin-you/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37550 @ 0.00048354 = 18.1569 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73200 @ 0.00048077 = 35.1924 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: !up stoon
punkman: saw a flash of naked girl on last article but it disappeared
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00048265 = 9.1945 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123352 @ 0.00048464 = 59.7813 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00048589 = 1.0933 BTC [+]
trinque: mircea_popescu │ in other news : how do you superimpose two images for the web, but exactly ? << you put them both in a position: relative div, give the two images position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;
trinque: ... the shit that fills my head
mircea_popescu: doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: you can't have absolute coords. it's the web.
trinque: that one makes it "absolute" "relative" to the parent div
mircea_popescu: you still get padding.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341197 << at least it seems that colbert isn't quite so funny when libertards aren't watching him with the (almost assuredly) mistaken statistic in mind that "half of viewers don't even know he's kidding!"
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 16:06:12; mircea_popescu: awww, colbert's not funny ?! who knew!
punkman: there's probably two dozen ways to do that
assbot: "Parody" is not there for you cancerous fags to try and hide your cancer behind it. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1T9xolV )
trinque: then comes the long recitation of the reset.css ritual to purify the browser.
mircea_popescu: that said, he's squeezed more blood from that rock than anyone i know oif.
mircea_popescu: trinque if you're curious, see how last trilema does it
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: and colbert kicked the parody to the curb, leaving... not much.
pete_dushenski: and colbert's up there with ali g and daniel tosh in the "lulzy interview that audience and interviewer understand but interviewee maybe not so much" game.
trinque: now only the fellation of the state and hollywood remain.
pete_dushenski: !s tosh.0
assbot: 1 results for 'tosh.0' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tosh.0
trinque: mircea_popescu: a yep, that works.
pete_dushenski: well that's too bad, tosh.0 is pretty hilarious.
trinque: giving up on the tags other than div alleviates a lot of the pain
punkman: colbert had some pretty good bits over the years
punkman: can't say I'll ever watch his new "serious" crap though
pete_dushenski: punkman: looks like you're not alone. no one wants the ~actual~ stephen colbert, they want to see an overwrought fauxpublican.
mircea_popescu would almost watch a best-of if curated by someone in the wot
mircea_popescu: never really watched the guy outside of a few half minute snippets here and there.
punkman: daniel tosh is pretty bad but I've only caught the odd youtube featuring him
assbot: Cultural impact of The Colbert Report - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oo1v18 )
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tosh.0&lclk=long&filters=long << for anyone looking to check out full episodes of tosh.0
assbot: tosh.0 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oo1KJr )
pete_dushenski: can't say i've watched daniel tosh's stand-up routine, but i'd have high expectations for it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00048523 = 11.6213 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 13:42:05; mircea_popescu: (i did find the answer, a half hour of labour later, and exactly in the "basic science upon the software" sense djikstra was discussing. and i'm betting you don't know either. pos html omfg.)
mircea_popescu: ah right.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enouj
mircea_popescu: enough*, the answer is recursion.
mircea_popescu: so wait. the wikipedia page on the "cultural impact" of some random network anchor dude consists of 'things named after him' such as obscure sports teams and various pets ; and a large chapter on "wikipedia references" ?
mircea_popescu: what are these people on, their own jenkem ?
asciilifeform: tlp's disease ?
asciilifeform: 'it is on the screen, ergo it matters even if it is nonsense'
asciilifeform: ;;nethash
gribble: 693923003.137
asciilifeform: where'd it go..?
mircea_popescu: !s nethash
assbot: 510 results for 'nethash' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nethash
mircea_popescu: 12:24:01gribble: 527455049.152 << less than month ago.
pete_dushenski: 50 petahash here, 50 there... what's a few hundred acres of mining farms between friends ?
pete_dushenski: those cf-18s might not be able to hit the side of a barn in syria, but why not a stationary and defenseless mining farm in iceland ?
shinohai: Happy Hannukah pete_dushenski o/
pete_dushenski: aha cheers !!
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: there is no reason (aside from laziness and idiocy) for there to be any geographic concentrations of miners whatsoever
asciilifeform: (largest power could easily occupy, e.g., 10,000 cheapo warehouse lofts in 300 cities)
pete_dushenski: but really, a terahash is running ~1 btc atm (or was last month), which'd mean that 50k btc of ~just equipment~ is popping on and offline PER DAY. though the measurement problems inherent in ;;nethash may account for the majority of that...
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: why do you imagine that the consumer prices have anything to do with the actual cost to a geopolitical player ?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: also aside from cheap leccy and fast net connection...
asciilifeform: (what does it cost usg to order intel to bake 100,000 14nm asics ?)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: why did hitler need money ?
asciilifeform: to buy swedish steel ?
pete_dushenski: ok, and how many iphones does usg have to buy off china to pay the israelis for 100k asic chips ?
asciilifeform: why import ?
pete_dushenski: (israelis will do anything for iph0ne)
asciilifeform: serious cpu is one of the very few remaining american monopolies.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i guess if oregon doesn't mind "belching smokestacks"
pete_dushenski: i thought there was no 'serious cpu' ;/
asciilifeform: 'serious' being a relative thing
pete_dushenski: ok you tell me what 100k 'serious cpus' cost
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 01:03:09; mircea_popescu: in the sense of, "put on provision slip, sign, costs nothing"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58450 @ 0.00048464 = 28.3272 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: re-read. basically, no cost because nfi.
pete_dushenski: from outside, there's no cost. from inside, 'dunno yet, but we'll try to reallocate some of our other budgetary items to accommodate asic production'
pete_dushenski: basically, more zeros from one excel cell to another and voila ! chips.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1539 << obligatory illustration. where do you suppose these originally came from ?
assbot: Loper OS » Yes, you can still get these. ... ( http://bit.ly/1XtNsB3 )
asciilifeform: somebody moved a magical pencil, and - bam - there were fewer rolls of tp to be had. but chips appeared, aha.
asciilifeform: sorta like a hard drunk, or better yet, a costly dope addict - where does he get the coke money ?
asciilifeform: answer: ~somewhere~
pete_dushenski: aha. anywhere.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it isn't even a matter of 'we'll try to reallocate some of our other budgetary items'
asciilifeform: they simply print the bezzlars, and hire.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1341623 << well that was edifying. /me needs more practice with this subject matter. total n00b.
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 02:01:19; asciilifeform: http://foto-history.livejournal.com/8378510.html << historical interest, re: punishments.
asciilifeform: the second half of this particular engine's cycle is, of course, repossessing the bezzlars so they do not circulate and spread chaos
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: a luxury mr. z80-wisher-into-existence perhaps didn't have.
asciilifeform: in su this was done with the state monopoly on liquor
asciilifeform: in us - with rent bezzle
pete_dushenski thought liquor was cheap in former su.
pete_dushenski: or that moonshine in bathtub would suffice to extract one from said monopolu
pete_dushenski: monopoly*
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: folks certainly tried moonshining.
asciilifeform: it was punished harshly.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: re: link, i have always found 'ling chi' interesting. by all indications, the condemned remained alive almost until the very end. this must have taken considerable skill on part of the executioner.
pete_dushenski: no tv or even books to distract. why not be an artist at your craft ?
asciilifeform: iirc the last known public ling chi was in 1907
asciilifeform: but it was not very impressive, the condemned was doped with opium
pete_dushenski: not impressive ? you shoulda been there !!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61000 @ 0.00048613 = 29.6539 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341537 << l0l. #3 hit on google/yandex is... #b-a logs !
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 23:56:54; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341478 << see also pelevin's riotously funny doctor gulago
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56800 @ 0.00048233 = 27.3963 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00048277 = 1.5207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19159 @ 0.00048771 = 9.344 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13093 @ 0.00049065 = 6.4241 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37550 @ 0.00048277 = 18.128 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117650 @ 0.00048922 = 57.5567 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62072 @ 0.00049721 = 30.8628 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: interestinglyt enough, zjdx.lljs.gov.cn/bfdx/ is a spam link.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you expect gov.cn to be better policed ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51750 @ 0.00049392 = 25.5604 BTC [-] {8}
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: spiffy
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 18:23:12; mircea_popescu: wouldn't you expect gov.cn to be better policed ?
asciilifeform: here in gringolandia spam is routinely sent from city, state, and esp. shithole .edu machines
asciilifeform: and the only reason why spam from .gov/.mil is a rarity is the fascist filtering on the head end
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49995 @ 0.00048186 = 24.0906 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42550 @ 0.00048418 = 20.6019 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00048898 = 16.0874 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: buenos carmen diaz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00048781 = 2.7073 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> wouldn't you expect gov.cn to be better policed ? << It's not. I've only seen spam links from there.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77796 @ 0.00048932 = 38.0671 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 427.29, vol: 35881.57248004 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 423.918, vol: 19054.51633 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 427.05, vol: 120440.03392953 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 400.01, vol: 5.40583572 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 436.153644, vol: 187210.68040000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 424.16637, vol: 244.3823046 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 428.6869008, vol: 190.39897351 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: average: 431.602534787
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28976 @ 0.00049691 = 14.3985 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28578 @ 0.00049196 = 14.0592 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Also gov.ua is hosting spam domains nao
mircea_popescu: well that i believe is the normal function of the ua government.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24524 @ 0.00048188 = 11.8176 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86776 @ 0.00048026 = 41.675 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: "how did you do ?" "i'm confident in my performance".
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58650 @ 0.00047827 = 28.0505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24777 @ 0.00048443 = 12.0027 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74245 @ 0.00048645 = 36.1165 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00049832 = 14.9994 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69000 @ 0.00049184 = 33.937 BTC [-] {2}
deedbot-: [Qntra] Generally Upward Price Volatility At fiat/Bitcoin Interfaces Continues - http://qntra.net/2015/12/generally-upward-price-volatility-at-fiatbitcoin-interfaces-continues/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28720 @ 0.00049641 = 14.2569 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61774 @ 0.00049871 = 30.8073 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11274 @ 0.00049278 = 5.5556 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34350 @ 0.00050011 = 17.1788 BTC [+] {4}
funkenstein_: adlai, some cubes to go with your cubes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsssqCMfUMY
assbot: Rubik's Cube World Record 4.90 sec Lucas Etter Slow Motion - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NNhY2B )
funkenstein_: what is it about evidence of vomit-inducing mental illness in primates that is "edifying" or "spiffy"?
ben_vulpes: http://www.themorningnews.org/article/blues-on-wheels << "a writer becomes a carrier for the USPS out of a complete lack of options. what she discovers is that government jobs are actually miserable." ftfy
assbot: Blues on Wheels - The Morning News ... ( http://bit.ly/1UiFYMb )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00050064 = 8.2606 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ say wut ?
mircea_popescu: <danielpbarron> heh i'm mcguyvering out in the field as i oversee my employee building spicy moss ordinaries << in eulora news, the cotton pickin' is real!
funkenstein_: howdy :) i was just referencing some earlier channel comments on image links
mircea_popescu: yeah butr i have no idea which
funkenstein_: "edifying" was pete on look heads come off, "spiffy" was ascii on look we can cause pain
BingoBoingo: lol "no one goes “postal” anymore (they go, as my trainer said, “‘high school,’ like Columbine” instead)"\
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00049278 = 12.1224 BTC [-]
deedbot-: accepted: 1
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42350 @ 0.00049229 = 20.8485 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64000 @ 0.00049186 = 31.479 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: USB Typewriter ~ ... ( http://bit.ly/1OZVE4T )
ben_vulpes: tbqh every time i hear about what the wizards are up to it sounds like something from a parallel universe
BingoBoingo: A parallel and inferior universe
assbot: dpaste: 1RW41ZS ... ( http://bit.ly/1Uj1zns )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61762 @ 0.00049289 = 30.4419 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: punkman: pretty sure that's the intro to 'system shock' !
asciilifeform: mega-nostalgic.
punkman: asciilifeform: from recent ghost in the shell actually
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1342149 << there's government jobs and then there's government jobs.
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 23:08:21; ben_vulpes: http://www.themorningnews.org/article/blues-on-wheels << "a writer becomes a carrier for the USPS out of a complete lack of options. what she discovers is that government jobs are actually miserable." ftfy
asciilifeform: in usa, post office and patent office have well-deserved horrid reputations for... actual work!11111
asciilifeform: (these are - or rather, were until recently - the only cash-positive ministries other than irs (tax collectors) in usa.)
punkman: can't wait for USPS to finally say "fuck it, we'll email this junk to you and burn it"
BingoBoingo: Post Office so cash positive made to pay pensions 75 years in advance.
asciilifeform: ~until~ made to
asciilifeform: after this - broke.
asciilifeform: now - afaik - just 2 +ev ministries left.
BingoBoingo: Right, but still doing.
BingoBoingo: USPS delivered parts for the AmazingPlasticar over priority mail just fine.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
asciilifeform: my current postman routinely drops parcels at the wrong house.
asciilifeform: bbbut he wears a pith helmet, and is thereby entertaining.
asciilifeform: so there is something to be said in his favour.
BingoBoingo hears postman's Grumman LLV when it reaches neigborhood, allows for mail to spend little stale time in box.
asciilifeform: grumman ?!!
asciilifeform: hellcat ?
punkman: do any postmen ride bikes in US?
asciilifeform: possibly
asciilifeform: but not here.
asciilifeform: ' I drove to my next loop and sobbed aloud as I tried to shove thick magazines through thin, razor-sharp mail slots that made my fingers bleed. I kept crying, from exhaustion and frustration, as I walked through hedges and tree branches. When I finished and arrived at the station, my supervisor asked if I had been crying. I told her my allergies were terrible. Another carrier had already told me to never, ever show them what t
asciilifeform: hey do to you.' << waat
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> grumman ?!! << Post truck was sold by Grumman.
BingoBoingo: Grumman llv is actually bastardized GovernmentMotors product based roughly on Chevy S10
BingoBoingo: llv seems like it coul be fun to drive if it will take v8 swap
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84050 @ 0.00049152 = 41.3123 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11434 @ 0.0004912 = 5.6164 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17238 @ 0.00049289 = 8.4964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 307031 @ 0.0004901 = 150.4759 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92900 @ 0.00049675 = 46.1481 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7222 @ 0.00049863 = 3.6011 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48000 @ 0.00050004 = 24.0019 BTC [+]
deedbot-: [Qntra] Gizmodo And Wired End Week Waffling On #Hoaxtoshi - http://qntra.net/2015/12/gizmodo-and-wired-end-week-waffling-on-hoaxtoshi/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46205 @ 0.00050013 = 23.1085 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20080 @ 0.00050032 = 10.0464 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60100 @ 0.00049915 = 29.9989 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42900 @ 0.00050032 = 21.4637 BTC [+]
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1jVXcSi )
punkman: "President Obama, who regards tackling climate change as a central element of his legacy, spoke of the deal in a televised address from the White House. “This agreement sends a powerful signal that the world is fully committed to a low-carbon future,”"
mircea_popescu: legacy ? lolzk.
mircea_popescu: what did carter regard as a central element of his legacy, i forget
BingoBoingo: Hostage loss
BingoBoingo: Or was it swamp rabbit
mircea_popescu: musta been something
mircea_popescu: other than "probably still a better option than dan quayle"
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