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danielpbarron: that show's other host is antonopolous, the guy that you got kicked off of twatter for threatening to kill
phf: mircea_popescu: what's the new registrar? is it less retarded then namecheap?
mircea_popescu: well the website works, at least.
mircea_popescu: internet.bs
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron so clearly pete is doing his job lol
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 03:02:58; asciilifeform: i'm actually kind surprised that none of these dns records suddenly decided to point to dhs 'confiscated!1111' page, quite yet
assbot: Am fost hacuit on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1YaiP0z )
mircea_popescu: that was a lulzdefacement on trilema years ago. the "romanian blogging community" ie a few dozen derps with shitty jobs in media was rather indignant that o noes, such desperation, to mis en scene your own defacement!!
mircea_popescu: then a coupla years later went into an epidemy of doing it, because hey, the sure mark of the insecure faggot is pretending superiority while attempting immitation.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 03:10:49; asciilifeform: su had a ready warm place for all the competent folks to ~defect~ (DEFECT, not flee like rats and into pederasty, but fucking defect) to
mircea_popescu: the "defectors" that didn't get killed (seriously, who the fuck is going to shoot ricin at you for leaving the us ?) mostly picked up trash. if lucky, ran cabs.
mircea_popescu: what the rats in the burning hole imagine the outside is, and what the outside is are different matters.
mircea_popescu: and the rats are ALWAYS imbecile. take you, for instqance : you imagine the outside "is bad". take them, for instance. they imagined the outside "is good". BOTH entirely, utterly and completely wrong, on an objective basis. but objective has absolutely nothing to do with it.
mircea_popescu: do you know what informs their position, in all cases, then as now ? the same thing : they thought it's good because it seemed impopssible. you tihnk it's bad because it seems easy. that's the whole charade.
mircea_popescu: all the cunning of a pubescent female, trying to get what it perceives it can't have while discounting with both hands what's easy to get.
mircea_popescu: so she sits around with idiots that don't know how to wash properly (no, they don't OPT to not wash properly, they simply don't know how to do it, through parental neglect) and cuts class.
mircea_popescu: anyway. real men don't need more than what they carry with themselves. that's what fucking distinguishes them from women.
mircea_popescu: women miss a bit.
mircea_popescu: albert who ? speer, the nazi architect ? looky here : at the time the action was coherent there was no conflict. by the time there was conflict coherent action was practically absent. what have you done here, averaged over two decades ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323630 << you need a very weird thought process to at the same time discount all the NUMEROUS idiots with nail marks all over the face and somehow hallucinate some imaginary protection for the remainder through a concerted, name-able agency. really, usg protected all the vermin i didn't yet get to ?
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 03:16:04; asciilifeform: if it's at keeping mircea_popescu's rusty nail baseball bat at bay, i dare say it still works
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: re:nailbat, I interpreted that as when you take your physical trip to the US to play around in New Reno at some point in the future
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the problem with this is that the javascript "coder" without an eye and with two amputated legs will sit on an old skateboard and try to get rentacoder javascript work to pay his hospital bills.
BingoBoingo: But can they in two decades?
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 03:16:17; asciilifeform: if it's at supplying clean water out of the tap - it sorta works
mircea_popescu: jesus the delusion is strong with this one, he goes to sleep, comes back with it whole.
asciilifeform: didn't say 'works', but 'sorta works'
mircea_popescu: stop sleeping alf, it regenerates while you do.
mircea_popescu: eh get out. "sorta works" is not a thing.
asciilifeform working on this.
asciilifeform: srsly can barely sleep at all nowadays.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323639 << the degree of psychosis required for this is not curable outside of solaris-level sleep deprivation.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 03:17:59; asciilifeform: all i can say is that usg is the only major economic actor remaining, or at least in so far as is visible from my dismal tower
mircea_popescu: you must not sleep for like five - six years or some shit.
mircea_popescu: fucking united states of kermit are an "economic actor" now, fancy that. what do they act, the chinese handpuppet ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where i live, psychosis 'is' sanity. as in, the furniture ~is~ glued to the ceiling, the folks with the ~normal~ vestibular ear are the ones throwing chunkz
asciilifeform: kermit << kermit roosevelt jr !!111
asciilifeform always wondered if the fscking frog was named for him
mircea_popescu: "from my tower built out of old fishwraps atop slightly fresher fishwraps, the chinese freedom of navigation exercises all around japan are entirely invisible"
asciilifeform: whaddayawant, it's a jail, cans of sardines are currency, usg is the only economic actor here, yes
mircea_popescu: what else!
asciilifeform: yes fishwraps
asciilifeform: how else.
mircea_popescu: do you do a lot of this begging the question and implying the conclusions business ?
mircea_popescu: "in any set of one bottle all the things are a bottle!"
asciilifeform: no 'any' in there
asciilifeform: see logz.
asciilifeform: i live in this here aquarium. describing the contents thereof.
mircea_popescu: "in this set of one bottle all things are a bottle! also in speer's case!"
mircea_popescu: the acquarium is entirely in your head, is the problem.
asciilifeform: speer helped preside over a similar aquarium. his was saltwater, mine - freshwater. but similar.
mircea_popescu: i personaly suspect the only reason we even know the name of that B actor in the nazi state is that he was the first/only/most coherent man the brits could find in uniform.
asciilifeform: also because wrote a megalith turd
mircea_popescu: sounds a lot like taking the governor of missouri as some sort of relevant political force.
asciilifeform: he's relevant if you're in the motherfuking electric chair
asciilifeform: in misouri
asciilifeform: sorta my attempted point.
mircea_popescu: dude, you're not even in jail.
asciilifeform: in большая зона.
mircea_popescu: some respek for the erotically electro cuties!
asciilifeform: where was hanbot's article about the jail
asciilifeform: 'you're already in, they can move you to the big cell or small one whenever'
asciilifeform: iirc it was inside mircea_popescu's article re: that schmuck
asciilifeform: garret something or other...?
mircea_popescu: o the death and taxes dood ?
mircea_popescu: to quote from a piece i linked earlier,
mircea_popescu: "If Republicans continue to moan about "liberal bias" and "losing the culture wars" without mustering the courage to do something about it – à la Ben Carson's stoppage of funding or Glenn Reynolds's abolition of aristocratic loopholes for Ivy League tithing – then the whole notion of higher education is going to be lost."
mircea_popescu: fancy that! that's exactly what is ~going to~ happen! the whole notion! will be lost!
asciilifeform: was lost long before tlp was born.
mircea_popescu: if the republicans don't act!
asciilifeform: l0lz aha
mircea_popescu: nah, this is "americanthinker"
asciilifeform: reads like tlp
asciilifeform: same supporating sores from same radiation damage
mircea_popescu: yeah, because they're the same age, and the same deffective minds.
mircea_popescu: suppurating!
asciilifeform: aha yes
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323732 << now this is true. but the defection gave su its 'control shot' in the head nonetheless.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 05:10:37; mircea_popescu: the "defectors" that didn't get killed (seriously, who the fuck is going to shoot ricin at you for leaving the us ?) mostly picked up trash. if lucky, ran cabs.
mircea_popescu: who tothe what now ?
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asciilifeform: the competent folks who could leave - left; who could turn profiteer - did; etc
mircea_popescu: if only.
mircea_popescu: the principal problem of man, as an alive, in vivo beast, is that he has no fucking idea.
mircea_popescu: is he competent ? to what ?
mircea_popescu: once dead it becomes apparent, but to no further use to him
asciilifeform: the folks who could add and subtract, say.
mircea_popescu: back in 1970 even schoolchildren could add and substract
mircea_popescu: this, recall, was before 1993.
mircea_popescu: jesus fuck, we're digging in the past decades like it's postgraduade class in etruscan art.
asciilifeform: it is sorta lulzy, my father actually thought he could be an engineer in usa
asciilifeform: with his black ink pen.
asciilifeform: nobody sent the memo to the contrary.
mircea_popescu: said so right on the form, "you can be whatever"
asciilifeform: aha lol exactly.
asciilifeform: i still remember the motherfucking 'form'
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asciilifeform: came in the very odd 'letter' size env. with plastic window
asciilifeform: never seen one of those before
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 03:30:32; asciilifeform: pretty much everything with a public face and ANY 'hr types' is - by definition - salt mine.
asciilifeform: (no such animal in su)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'hr type' means a very specific sort of gorlum in usa
mircea_popescu: it's coming.
mircea_popescu: the subversion will be complete ou ne sera pas.
asciilifeform: i don't think hr gorlum could survive exposure to mircea_popescuray without immediate demagnetization and reformatting
mircea_popescu: subverted hr!
asciilifeform: thread was where i tried to explain to mats that there are these islands in usa
asciilifeform: like little leaves still green in your kitchen garbage disposal
mircea_popescu: now this is poetic.
asciilifeform: not so green, and never for long.
asciilifeform: but there.
mircea_popescu: actually... it IS a verse isn't it
asciilifeform: if you eat greens ever.
mircea_popescu: i have a vague memory of having read this line
asciilifeform: probably did, somewhere.
asciilifeform: !s garbage disposal
assbot: 12 results for 'garbage disposal' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=garbage+disposal
mircea_popescu: i suspect it wasn't in this language.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323700 << thart doesn't explain the david shield does it.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 03:42:57; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in unrelated news, my pickled gerkins (industria argentina!) are "kosher". except no rabi is mentioned. << With gherkins Kosher is a style meaning "with Garlic"
asciilifeform often can no longer remember in what language somethign was
mircea_popescu: which does not help with the search ;/
mircea_popescu: anyway, im not gonna waste the night hunting this, instead, i think ima translate rabinul si oaia.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 05:10:56; mircea_popescu: what the rats in the burning hole imagine the outside is, and what the outside is are different matters.
asciilifeform: i'm not yet convinced that i'm people and not furniture of this here hole.
asciilifeform: not even the fella in the electric chair. but just the sponge in the headpiece.
asciilifeform: the sponge is this very particular custom thing, it isn't of much use as a sponge in the bath
asciilifeform: only makes sense in the context of the chair.
asciilifeform: does this make sense to anybody?
mircea_popescu: so psychosis AND depersonalization ?
asciilifeform: (if it does not, try not sleeping for a spell)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323762 << wake me up when the middle kingdom births (yes DESIGNS on MACHINES OF OWN DESIGN) a cpu that can eat the britneychain
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 05:27:05; mircea_popescu: "from my tower built out of old fishwraps atop slightly fresher fishwraps, the chinese freedom of navigation exercises all around japan are entirely invisible"
asciilifeform: i.e. is an actual sovereign.
mircea_popescu: don't you need to sleep for that ?
asciilifeform: i would wouldnt i.
mircea_popescu: SETTING ME UP FOR FAILURE
asciilifeform: 'set up us the bomb' (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: !up artifexd
asciilifeform: artifexd: anybody home ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323793 << oh and this also reminds me of my grandfolks who thought, to the chagrin of younger folk, that the talking heads of late '80s su ~counted somehow~
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 05:34:17; mircea_popescu: "If Republicans continue to moan about "liberal bias" and "losing the culture wars" without mustering the courage to do something about it – à la Ben Carson's stoppage of funding or Glenn Reynolds's abolition of aristocratic loopholes for Ivy League tithing – then the whole notion of higher education is going to be lost."
asciilifeform: as in the notion that it mattered what they said or did
asciilifeform: or that their names had a reason to be distinct names
mircea_popescu: i recall this chagrin.
asciilifeform: this thing where the afflicted tries to avoid the realization that the buttons are no longer (or worse, were never) plugged into anything -- is probably in tlp somewhere
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323735 << i would happily move to the ar where mircea_popescu lives, but i will happily be shot in the head three times before i move to the ar where the argentines live.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 05:12:10; mircea_popescu: do you know what informs their position, in all cases, then as now ? the same thing : they thought it's good because it seemed impopssible. you tihnk it's bad because it seems easy. that's the whole charade.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: 'hr type' means a very specific sort of gorlum in usa << very usually a buttergolem
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fwiw in my own experience it's the opposite
asciilifeform: these fish-like creatures
asciilifeform: skin, bones, and pheminizm
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's crossover. i beat their women and eat their icecream.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, how else
asciilifeform: they are the furniture
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323700 << thart doesn't explain the david shield does it. << k, that's just gotta be retard locals
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 03:42:57; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in unrelated news, my pickled gerkins (industria argentina!) are "kosher". except no rabi is mentioned. << With gherkins Kosher is a style meaning "with Garlic"
asciilifeform: i already have a gig as furniture, don't need to move for that
asciilifeform: even if could get out from under the arse
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (if it does not, try not sleeping for a spell) << usually does the trick
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe a regional difference? Tend here to be proud pheminismist "persons of size"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it's the money
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: close to the printing press, the vermin can afford to... remain thin (yes)
asciilifeform: in nebraskalabama, cis-kensaw, whatever, they're stuck eating petrogreaseburgers
asciilifeform: here - 'organik' kitten fillet
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Here it's they have they money and power over other people's access to money, so why not become monsters
asciilifeform: there's money in mizuri ?
asciilifeform had no idea.
BingoBoingo: Sure, in the lead mines
BingoBoingo: And the Boeing and Monsanto
BingoBoingo: And Mallinkrodt
BingoBoingo: Monsanto makes its home in StL
asciilifeform: and i bet their hr chix are thin.
asciilifeform: and have the face of war.
BingoBoingo: Missourah even has TWO federal reserve banks
BingoBoingo: Mebbe?
asciilifeform: can't speak for BingoBoingo, but i don't think i've ever seen epicly, memorably fat people outside of places where dirt poor folk habitually gather
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu were awake, he might say 'poor and stupid is the same' and i can't say that he's wrong, but to try to put an arrow of causality in either direction is imho stark nonsense
BingoBoingo: Well you live in a different part of the zoo's anatomy
asciilifeform: go broke in usa (and i mean ~properly~ broke, no backup) and you will be poor, fat, and permanently stupid in short order
asciilifeform: in a hole from which there is no ladder.
asciilifeform: (because not even satan can help stupid)
mircea_popescu: i know at least a coupla girls that were dirt poor.
asciilifeform: being a girl == not ~properly~ broke
asciilifeform: because has a ladder out.
asciilifeform: (at least if not old)
BingoBoingo: The truly broke here do lean out
mircea_popescu: funny how that owrks.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun think i've ever seen this.
mircea_popescu: "properly broke", like the true scotsman, is not a thing of this world.
asciilifeform: neh it's a thing
asciilifeform: just not for long.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: i dun think i've ever seen this. << have you checked the gutter down by the river?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i haven't checked the inside of the fish either
BingoBoingo: Why not check?
asciilifeform: will check eventually when inside.
mircea_popescu can confirm, actual tramps [used to be] thin.
mircea_popescu: course, meanwhile obola.
asciilifeform: before mcfood.
asciilifeform: in ru they're thin still.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323899 << also wtf was this about, hr are these poor devils who shuffle papers
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 06:12:28; BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Here it's they have they money and power over other people's access to money, so why not become monsters
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Here in my experience they admonish, shame, and "train" things that ought not be trained
mircea_popescu: pedagogues without a pedophile streak end up working in hr.
mircea_popescu: the rest usually work the schools.
asciilifeform: interesting, mallinckrodt makes... dope ?
asciilifeform: whodathought
BingoBoingo: Dope and radioisotopes
asciilifeform once worked in a lab with a titanic fridge full of crates labeled 'mallinckrodt' but it was all obscure diagnostic crud
BingoBoingo: If it is chemical weird off patent mallinckrodt makes it, which is why China is eating their lunch
asciilifeform surprised that anybody in usa still manages to make anything.
phf: was looking at the 60s photos of hells angels, all of them skinny. which by the dates the spittoon story, since "fat bikers"
asciilifeform: phf: story appeared on alt.tasteless some time around '97 iirc.
mircea_popescu: phf that culture got raped about as badly as "gays" got destroyed by the faux-gays of the "rights movement".
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Seemms mostly operating on inertia
mircea_popescu: originally, it was a very different crowd than the mancave type of dudes post vhs.
mircea_popescu: everything in the us gets its own september.
mircea_popescu: fortunately, so does the us itself.
mircea_popescu considers 7/11 partial payment for aol.
asciilifeform: longest september on record
asciilifeform: (was it ever august, even, in usa ?)
asciilifeform: certainly no later.
asciilifeform: this is incidentally the year which i inhabit in my delusion.
phf: was it carlin who ranted about dentists and pussyboy programmers on harleys
mircea_popescu: the vhs tape stuck every housewife with having to be deep throat and consumer credit saddled every husband with having to be a knight, not even a squire.
phf: http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9982/hellsangels.jpg << i mean they look almost effeminate by present herpaderp standards, because fat==muscle
asciilifeform: i think at least 1 in that photo is actually female
mircea_popescu: always remember : hairdo dates the coin.
asciilifeform: 1880 usa was something like the first and last time,place where 'inventor' was a semi-respectable thing to be
mircea_popescu: not respectable or respected by anyone or anything outside teenaged girls.
mircea_popescu: ask tesla.
asciilifeform: actually t was courted by, iirc, high-test gurlz
asciilifeform: incl daughter of jpm
asciilifeform: perhaps 'respect' is the wrong word
asciilifeform: respected as in how one respects one's expensive clock or pair of boots, rather than a man
asciilifeform: (respect as in man - now that is a thing that never was, or will be, for them.)
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mircea_popescu: you familiar with the strange case of mr rimbaud ?
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: was poet, not inventor ?
asciilifeform: or what
phf: BingoBoingo: ah, yeah, that's a fair point
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform poet from 10 to about 16, then went to africa made his name trading arms.
mircea_popescu: respected, for what, at which point, by whom ?
phf: mp is partial to french scoundrel poets
mircea_popescu: there is a dearth of poets. especially in nonfrench, nonlatin languages.
mircea_popescu: who am i going to name, the rich teutonic tradition ?
mircea_popescu: Obscurus of Hyperborea ?
phf: certainly few that "grew up in the market-place"
mircea_popescu: iirc this guy grew up in a convent, with a schizogenic mother.
phf: huh, that's true, i might have a romanticized view of rimbaud
mircea_popescu: " Maintenant, je m'encrapule le plus possible. Pourquoi ? Je veux être poète, et je travaille à me rendre voyant : vous ne comprendrez pas du tout, et je ne saurais presque vous expliquer. Il s'agit d'arriver à l'inconnu par le dérèglement de tous les sens. Les souffrances sont énormes, mais il faut être fort, être né poète, et je me suis reconnu poète. Ce n'est pas du tout ma faute."
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mircea_popescu: "− Je me dois à la Société, c'est juste, − et j'ai raison. − Vous aussi, vous avez raison, pour aujourd'hui. Au fond, vous ne voyez en votre principe que poésie subjective : votre obstination à regagner le râtelier universitaire, − pardon! − le prouve ! Mais vous finirez toujours comme un satisfait qui n'a rien fait, n'ayant voulu rien faire. Sans compter que votre poésie subjective sera toujours horri
mircea_popescu: blement fadasse."
mircea_popescu: etc etc.
mircea_popescu: "There’s no sugar-coating the following fact: We’ve helped people beat drug tests. We’ve studied the most current drug tests, we know what’s in play, where the learning curves are, we know what’s trending in the sporting community, and what new drugs are coming down the pipeline from China and elsewhere. Simply stated, we can help anyone, in any sport – including Crossfit – use performance enhancing drug
mircea_popescu: s and not get caught. Again, we’re not bragging, we’re trying to let you, (perhaps) a first time reader, see where we’re coming from. We know without a doubt that steroids are already in Crossfit, because instructors have already been arrested for dealing them. So that’s an irrefutable fact."
mircea_popescu: this guy's prose reads like he belongs loading traincars.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is a crossfit anyway
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punkman: damn 120+ dead, 200+ injured now
punkman: "The eight attackers are also dead, seven of them after detonating suicide belts."
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punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323345 << I've heard a couple cases where they suspended bunch of domains for stupid reasons
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fluffypony: punkman: yeah it's crazy
fluffypony: also they declared a state of emergency for the first time in decades
fluffypony: "First time since 1945 that France has declared a nationwide state of emergency. Means state can control the press and enter private homes at any time (according to the French Government website)"
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punkman: "That does it. We're going nuclear on their asses." "But your enemy is actually *a meme*." "Fuck it. I said nuclear."
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mircea_popescu: 7.5mn ? da fuq ?
mircea_popescu: whatg, they got no women in tech at .bs or wtf is this.
mircea_popescu: o hey check it out, joining charlie yankee in his Operation Being Stupid I through XXVIII reeeeally paid off for the euros.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00050231 = 7.2333 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what the fuck is a crossfit anyway << Going to Gym, but with cult elements
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 330.99, vol: 23066.87221308 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 327.125, vol: 5169.36562 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 332.36, vol: 21746.44572604 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 280.0, vol: 2.81121347 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 332.279682, vol: 61707.09840000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 328.0, vol: 153.56202846 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 331.79289, vol: 224.19960282 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 331.783903795
assbot: Gemini $2200 per Bitcoin! Are they out of Bitcoin to sell? - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1H1Wyh8 )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this guy's prose reads like he belongs loading traincars. << He prolly does belong in such an occupation. Much of their subculture apparently proses like that or worse.
BingoBoingo: But basically that is the sort of prose used when addressing persons who aspire to be pickup trucks
punkman: BingoBoingo: Allegedly https://imgur.com/sabA0Jd << "did they run out of bitcoinz?" lolderp
assbot: Gemini $2200 per Bitcoin! Are they out of Bitcoin to sell? - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1H1Wyh8 )
adlai: such leet, very price
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34650 @ 0.00049743 = 17.2359 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Seems like the Winkelvii exchange just might have
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45972 @ 0.00049495 = 22.7538 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56326 @ 0.00049977 = 28.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37800 @ 0.0004999 = 18.8962 BTC [+] {3}
adlai: yours today for only 49.99! ((terms, conditions, and gpg contracts may apply))
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34850 @ 0.00049196 = 17.1448 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: meziti comments on Interviewed with IoT company ... ( http://bit.ly/1HPMGSv )
mircea_popescu: o check it out, reddit stopped loading worth a shit either sometime in between today and last i looked
mircea_popescu: archive.is is becoming the main interface to the retardweb
mircea_popescu: "The Ethereum ecosystem is incredibly exciting, but from an outsider perspective it might seem like just another fringe idea"
mircea_popescu: mno. from the outside it looks like a bunch of unemployable / mentally retarded adults + a bunch of homeless/orphan/parentally neglected children getting frothed at the mouth over the third pass of incredibly banal, fundamentally broken nonsense.
shinohai: Probab;y why Micorsit hopped on their train.
shinohai: *microsoft
BingoBoingo: I like MicOrSit as in "Get slipped a mickey or sit on this cock already"
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mircea_popescu: ;;seen pete_dushenski
gribble: pete_dushenski was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 28 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: * pete_dushenski to go pick up saddam from mechanic then to dinner. later !
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski What is you opinion on the "mini moon" style hubcaps as applied to sedans. I'm thinking about removing the cheap plastic wheel covers and classing up my steelies.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: UN-EFFING-BELIEVABLE! Mizzou Protesters Are ANGRY Paris Terror Attacks Stole Their MEDIA SPOTLIGHT!!! ... ( http://bit.ly/1HPPGhO )
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Honestly Mizzou protester lost the spotlight at MIZZOU on Thursday when Gary Pinkel announced he was retiring at the end of the year because he has cancer.
shinohai: Such narcissism.
BingoBoingo: Seriously.
assbot: "Core" Bitcoin Client to Drop Transaction Priority | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1kwdqTa )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46500 @ 0.00050002 = 23.2509 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Weren't you working on a qntra piece about something?
shinohai: At one time ... I am the worst person at over-analyzing anything I write to death. I may shock you and submit something one day.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Well, then the proper course of action is to submit a draft and let me overanal-ice it to death
assbot: Tributes to Pinkel: 'He resurrected Missouri football' : Sports ... ( http://bit.ly/1HPQtiR )
shinohai: I also have a bad habit of mocking ppl like Gavin and R. Ver which makes me look unprofessional. Funny though.
shinohai: Ad-hominem attacks really have no place in serious writing.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Have you ever read qntra?
assbot: GAW Miners Revealed As The Jizz Moppers Supreme | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1VWjEwn )
BingoBoingo: Calling people what they are is not ad hominen
shinohai: Roger Ver strikes me as the type that would sue Qntra and myself if I wrote apiece on him and his vote-brigading bitcoin forum for example.
BingoBoingo: How would he even get standing to do that?
assbot: Edward Snowden and spread of encryption blamed after Paris terror attacks ... ( http://bit.ly/1kwetCH )
shinohai: Every problem needs a scapegoat to cover incompetence !
punkman: that's not how scapegoat works
punkman: speaking of which, I have the cutest little goat ribs marinating in the fridge
trinque: did they encrypt raqqa?
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00050043 = 10.7092 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27230 @ 0.00050666 = 13.7964 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: lol the murican college kids have come to expect ?
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/11/core-bitcoin-client-to-drop-transaction-priority/ << so basically they're doing the best they can to ruin a functional system to create a perceived need for the nonsense hm ?
assbot: "Core" Bitcoin Client to Drop Transaction Priority | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1kwdqTa )
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the other end, we still dun have pogos going, because reasons of racial purity.
mircea_popescu: <shinohai> Roger Ver strikes me as the type that would << roger ver is the type that can afford a cup of coffee if you're paying it.
BingoBoingo: Seriously
assbot: Athletics doping: Russia provisionally suspended by IAAF - BBC Sport ... ( http://bit.ly/1NwGcKh )
mircea_popescu: in fairness, calling that thing functional is a bit of an overstatement.
BingoBoingo: Sometimes you gotta support the fee-fees a bit only to rip them away harder
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo anyway, the angry cartloader's main point stands : your chances of "detecting" doping are exactly akin to the prospects of every other bayesian pseudoscientific approach.
mircea_popescu: nil, if colorful.
BingoBoingo: Yeah. nil, unless doping with all sorts of exotic that isn't natural.
BingoBoingo: The people who get caught generally order shit online hoping to stay in front of testing, while A-Rod goes to the pharmacy.
BingoBoingo: Florida's quarterback this year was suspended because he was doping with a research chemical being tested for muscle wasting in cancer patients, aka the idiot college way
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11420 @ 0.00050336 = 5.7484 BTC [-]
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1324109 <<< also he is the type that thinks paying for a single cup of coffee with bitcoin is good and revolutionary.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 17:17:12; mircea_popescu: <shinohai> Roger Ver strikes me as the type that would << roger ver is the type that can afford a cup of coffee if you're paying it.
assbot: Brazilian Army Gets Hacked After Allegations of Cheating In Security Cyber-Games - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NwI9Gp )
mod6: 12:43AM up 315 days << the foundation site has been up for nearly a year. we've been told it requires a reboot.
shinohai: requires a reboot ?
mod6: will be doing this shortly; outage shouldn't be long. will start this process in 27 minutes.
mod6: shinohai: we recieved an email that said if we do not reboot box in the next 24 hours, they will do it for us.
punkman: is it on AWS?
jurov: seems on vultr.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45800 @ 0.00051243 = 23.4693 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo eating chicken hearts as part of a program to maximize the number of deaths that contribute to each meal
shinohai: I guess they have to apply their "yearly updates" or whatever. Never used AWS much.
jurov: *everyone* in the vps business had to update recently
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Why I’m not a Zionist. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/14/why-im-not-a-zionist/
mod6: 5 minutes until reboot.
mod6: Alright, stand by. Rebooting.
mod6: Complete.
mod6: Thanks for your patience.
BingoBoingo: ty for the rebooty
mod6: np
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36450 @ 0.00050594 = 18.4415 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 17:16:05; mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the other end, we still dun have pogos going, because reasons of racial purity.
trinque: !up Farlee
trinque: Farlee: hi, who are you?
assbot: Horsey Rides for the Morbidly Obese - Video Clip | Comedy Central ... ( http://bit.ly/1NwMR7d )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21552 @ 0.0005101 = 10.9937 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 16:35:18; punkman: from the i-dont-even department http://www.dailydot.com/politics/paris-attack-encryption-snowden/
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1324106 << afaik their incarnation of this never actually worked
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 17:15:48; mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/11/core-bitcoin-client-to-drop-transaction-priority/ << so basically they're doing the best they can to ruin a functional system to create a perceived need for the nonsense hm ?
asciilifeform: (leaving entirely aside the question of whether phoundation's thing is in any actual sense a bitcoinatron or not)
asciilifeform: !up gabrielradio
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 18:02:37; mod6: 12:43AM up 315 days << the foundation site has been up for nearly a year. we've been told it requires a reboot.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 06:55:15; mircea_popescu: there is a dearth of poets. especially in nonfrench, nonlatin languages.
asciilifeform: gives the fr folks a run for their money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00051153 = 2.6088 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: asciilifeform: something to the effect of ``update to network''. no idea.
mod6: for the money, i don't think its a big deal. one year of uptime, no problems, it's just a website.
mod6: with that in mind, going forward maybe something needs to be figured out with some redundancy for V's mirror.
ben_vulpes: hola pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: howdy ben_vulpes
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell danielpbarron mind dropping https://twitter.com/sam_kriss a link to the latest contravex, seeing as how he quite so eloquently inspired the thing
assbot: Sam Kriss (@sam_kriss) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1WYXqEZ )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: how're the lady and boy keeping ?
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 01:50:57; asciilifeform: it's a kind of cryptographolysenkoism aha
ben_vulpes: faaast asleep, and yours?
pete_dushenski: one out running errands, the other amusing himself on the change-table, strapped-in tightly (rolling off is, as of this morning, a risk!)
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323360 << cunegonde's brother and his naked mussulman ?
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 02:01:19; mircea_popescu: in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/3ea4c6cfd1af432bba0675b8bde21056/tumblr_n74hilKQPB1qzuheco1_1280.jpg (nsfa)
ben_vulpes: may he go from risk to risk
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: re: israel article: anecdote. a few yrs back, on the porch of my old flat, neighbour playing guitar, 'hatikva' (why? no one knows.) pet, to me: 'why is this fella playing 'languishing in auschwitz' ??!' me: 'you forgot - this is an actual song, i broke it'
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 20:16:58; mod6: with that in mind, going forward maybe something needs to be figured out with some redundancy for V's mirror.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: haha
ben_vulpes: lol asciilifeform share the lyrics for that?
pete_dushenski: back. (for now).
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i thought of you when reading sam kriss' review of the latest bond flick, spectre. particularly the bits about Cthulhu and Necronomicon references
assbot: The Englishman and the Octopus | Idiot Joy Showland ... ( http://bit.ly/1j1d3hV )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: one day
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jurov: mircea_popescu et al.: i am using joker.com registrar, it does have sane interface unchanged in past 10 years
jurov: and as long swiss people are in charge, i don't expect them to
pete_dushenski: !up Soligor
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funkenstein_: pete_dushenski, applause to you for latest contravex
funkenstein_: bring on the zero state solution
funkenstein_: on a related note I never did care which sporting club logo is on the hat of the guys making the cpu
pete_dushenski: funkenstein_: cheers :)
pete_dushenski: but what's the cpu point ? reference ?
funkenstein_: as in, middle kingdom doesn't make one
pete_dushenski: why would they ?
pete_dushenski: i'm coming around to the theory that they're too smart to grant that much independence and autonomy willy nilly
funkenstein_: who's "they" here?
funkenstein_: guys with middle kingdom hats I guess
funkenstein_: anyway, well done. Sharing widely :)
pete_dushenski: and the amount of effort and energetic expenditure required by any centralised nation state to fashion proprietary cpu makes the prospect of the chinese undertaking the task assuredly improbable
pete_dushenski: funkenstein_: china, yes
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323513 << says mr. "require 10,001 things that i don't have. mainly abilities/proclivities/experiences/intuitions. incl. a basic meatspace social life"
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 02:29:03; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my weird delusion is 100% based on my to-date contact with physical reality (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: much as i'd like, i haven't escaped earth orbit entirely (unlike, e.g., mircea_popescu)
pete_dushenski: no one else has either, don't feel bad
pete_dushenski: the point was that your personal experience with "coders" =! all the hungry kids derping up web 2.0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.0005095 = 5.6045 BTC [-] {4}
pete_dushenski: well, and that most of the webkidz who aren't currently hungry are about to be, because they have no skillz.
pete_dushenski: and many who thought that "coding was kool" are currently confronting an entirely different reality from the one they presupposed
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: afaik most 'confront the reality' when they first clock in at 1st paying gig
pete_dushenski: right, which is why i doubt it takes much awareness to realise how garbage the webstack is.
pete_dushenski: but hey, "not starving today"
pete_dushenski: and what other options do they have ? not like they're actually talented at programming and can pick and choose they're work like you can
asciilifeform: who said i were or could, l0l
pete_dushenski: you COULD program webshitz. you WON'T
asciilifeform: i mean, i 'pick and choose' in the sense a surgeon chooses to slice guts instead of unloading railcars, yes
pete_dushenski: you have the technical capability, if not the mindset, patience, etc.
asciilifeform: but as mircea_popescu is fond of pointing out, everybody is a candidate for unloading railcars.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: exactly
asciilifeform: just like everybody's a candidate for feeding worms
pete_dushenski: everyone is a candidate for webz, which is why it's unusable
pete_dushenski: and, like railcars, web takes a lot of mudferbrains to keep it going
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34350 @ 0.0005148 = 17.6834 BTC [+] {5}
pete_dushenski: at least in the direction it's currently heading.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 02:30:05; mircea_popescu: i took over a whole fucking province with less than 150 people./
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 02:32:37; mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i'm rich. money insulates people. TO THEIR DETRIMENT.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1324119 << there is a very strict limit for testing, specifically that you can't test without reagent, and the reagent must react with something. ergo every single substance tested requires some blood. you can't take eight pints out of athletes, much less infinity pints, so you can't test for infinity things.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 17:29:23; BingoBoingo: Florida's quarterback this year was suspended because he was doping with a research chemical being tested for muscle wasting in cancer patients, aka the idiot college way
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: on the off chance that you find this interesting, i don't avoid www dev because 'it is dirty' - at this very moment i'm dealing with undocumented idiocies in the win7 kernel. but because it is a '17y.o. thing'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you got your causalities backwards.
mircea_popescu: you don't avoid it because it "IS" anything. it isn't anything,
asciilifeform: well there is this it-shaped pit
mircea_popescu: it only became something once you started avoiding it.
asciilifeform: sorta like that animal in 'star wars' that digests for 800 years
mircea_popescu: this, unpleasant as it may sound, is still jwzism
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did write 'phuctor'. i don't avoid dealing with www browser, what i avoid is being a labour peer with 17yo cannon fodder.
mircea_popescu: right. i know.
mircea_popescu: the objection here is to what you say, not to what you are.
asciilifeform: (for the elementary reason that a 33 y.o. fella doesn't make a good 17y.o. emulator. for instance, the latter's wage won't pay the rentz. etcetcetc)
mircea_popescu: this notion of one to one replacement as a necessity is a little bizarre, to my ears. also the notion that a 17yo could interdict any field to me is a little odd.
mircea_popescu: see, if i decide going back to 11th grade, i wouldn't replace ONE 17yo
asciilifeform: he can ~collectively~ by being cheap and disposable.
mircea_popescu: i would replace ALL of them
mircea_popescu: i mean... looky, my time wasn't free when i was 15, either.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323614 << or why stan is still in us of a. nowhere to defect to save isis. and they're internet's even worse.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 03:10:49; asciilifeform: su had a ready warm place for all the competent folks to ~defect~ (DEFECT, not flee like rats and into pederasty, but fucking defect) to
mircea_popescu: eh he's kidding himself.
mircea_popescu: tehran has better internet than wash dc. better food. better women.
mircea_popescu: there isn't a place on earth he'd be moving down to, not really.
pete_dushenski: he's just not enough of a jooey chameleon then ?
mircea_popescu: obviously there's religious nuts, but guess what, u of maryland has some derps "working on ethereum" right now.
mircea_popescu: i'd take the imams any day when it comes to religious nuts.
pete_dushenski: have to be pretty adaptable to cut it in tehran, i'd think
mircea_popescu: and you'd think this on the basis of what ?
mircea_popescu: for all you know they worship white folk.
asciilifeform: i don't disagree re: the imams.
asciilifeform: familiar enough with the subj.
pete_dushenski: iranians have too long a historical memory for white worship. still remember greek ass-kick.
asciilifeform: but i do know that ru folk contracting in ir get hazard pay.
asciilifeform: not because of imams, but because shithole.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you sure the "shithole" theory is not WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE
mircea_popescu: because otherwise the theory would have to be "because russians, = shitheads" ?
asciilifeform: shitheads - sure. and i'm what, an instantly likable lolcat?
mircea_popescu: not the point tho.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 03:21:13; asciilifeform: trinque: not so many folks outside of usg need reversing.
jurov: btw, i have never seen 17yo able to fix problem somewhere deep in html/js/css stack, or even being able to do multicolumn design with misc resize contraints from first principles
mircea_popescu: also this.
mircea_popescu: honestly i've rarely seen a 17yo male able to find his way to cunt if blindfolded in a roomfull of spread eagled whores, but that's just my limited experience talking, i'm sure.
asciilifeform: jurov: no one is ever hired specifically to do this. certainly not without a track record and recs.
mircea_popescu: they exist, somewhere. in meta-nsa-high.
asciilifeform: the entire 'industry' is geared around the availability of disposable bodies.
jurov: asciilifeform: i was not hired specifically to do that, but had to. cuz i was the only one who had a clue in whole fucking company
jurov: i then squeezed $$$ out of them
jurov: not that hard. and i have social skills of practically deaf hermit
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 18:04:39; mod6: shinohai: we recieved an email that said if we do not reboot box in the next 24 hours, they will do it for us.
asciilifeform: jurov: you were already there
mircea_popescu: "oh, we installed new spyware, it is windowsware, must reboot" ?
jurov: i was "already" there as sysadmin, so what?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude, he was born into some random company he started working for this decade. wouldja get off ?
asciilifeform: jurov: so we aren't talking about the same problem.
jurov: imo you yourself don't know what your problem is
asciilifeform: paying the motherfucking bills
asciilifeform: like most folks.
jurov: how would positioning oneself as "the wizard" not pay the bills?
asciilifeform: because i'm a wizard ~of something~
asciilifeform: that is, the market is a lemon market, and folks tend to get recruited 95% via meatwot and the remainder via verifiable recs
jurov: If you insist.
asciilifeform: jurov: ever work in usa ?
mircea_popescu: he fucking has me there, i never worked, nor ever hired in the us.
asciilifeform: the rivers of lying, stinking meat ~have an effect~
asciilifeform: (as well described by naggum, who ~did~ live and work in usa for about a decade)
jurov: you say all usian corps are so rigid so as not to recognize clueful people at all?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1324161 << this is actually true. it also happens to be that russians were the devil throughout my formative years.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 19:57:08; asciilifeform: gives the fr folks a run for their money
asciilifeform: i don't expect mircea_popescu to like ru poetry any more than i expect my phriend from .in to like british.
mircea_popescu: jurov no, the gist of his argument is that skill/competence are meaningless close enough to the money printer.
asciilifeform: ^ this, but also that the lemon market is so dire that folks trying to actually accomplish something tend to be ~extremely~ conservative
mircea_popescu: in the following sense : printing money renders sense arbitrary, and if sense is arbitrary then specialists become just another kind of voodoo practitioners. nobody cancelled the "if you're gonmna hire a voodoo priest, hire the cheapest" rule, and so here we are.
asciilifeform: advertise for just about ~any~ skilled labour thing and you are besieged with 1,001 lying idiots
asciilifeform: and yes! precisely as mircea_popescu describes
asciilifeform: and there is also a pestilence of credentialism
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this i saw in romania. was required by law to advertise job to create eu residency permit for slavegirl.
mircea_popescu: i took ad in obscure local paper, requiring complex engineering quals,
mircea_popescu: >100 people emailed me.
asciilifeform: it is no longer enough to have a uni degree (which i have, in ol'fashioned 'comp sci', fwiw) but also various trained monkey cert idiocies
mircea_popescu: it's not that none meeting the quals.
mircea_popescu: it's that 100% thereof having the quals for barrista and trying to wing it./
mircea_popescu: "we're all people after all rite" ?
asciilifeform: ^^ as naggum described
jurov: how comes then your phone keeps ringing off the hook?
asciilifeform: and as i saw personally when trying to hire folks
mircea_popescu: i should prolly publish those emails sometimes, it was a fucking riot.
mircea_popescu: the effects of "selfesteem" school quite evident.
asciilifeform: jurov: because usg has infinite budget and wants moar and moar reversers
asciilifeform: jurov: but i'd sorta like to avoid pederasty
mircea_popescu: jurov think in soviet yugo terms, which is exactly what the us is :
mircea_popescu: nobody had any trouble getting a job
mircea_popescu: except for the 5 or so jobs anyone ever wanted
mircea_popescu: (stewardess)
jurov: i don't get it. you could then get nice money fixing vhs recorders and smuggling diskettes and whatever
jurov: (but that's p3d3rastyyyyy!!!)
mircea_popescu: no, the stand-in objection to that is "social skillz"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually it is more specifically that with my level of social skillz it doesn't pay the rentz.
mircea_popescu: he has a pretty elaborate thing secreted there.
jurov: *shrug*
mircea_popescu: also diskettes = plutonium, in soviet yugo alf would starve with a planeful of diskettes because "there's nothing can do with"
asciilifeform: believe or not i was a perfectly normal boy (complete with the normal fistfights etc) before being forcibly removed to the land of monkeys
trinque: pffff
trinque: I was born here and I still live as though in enemy territory
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i believe.
asciilifeform: so in soviet yugo, supposing i'd grown up there, i'd possibly be something more like jurov.
trinque: (gay?)
mircea_popescu: (deaf ?)
asciilifeform: but i'm running low on hypothetical-juice
trinque: I kid
asciilifeform: (elaborate counterfactuals use it up!)
jurov: btw, i was not normal boy. was never allowed out to the street, granny was too afraid
jurov: only to school and back
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1324178 << check it out, childbirth turned vulpes into an old jewish woman.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 21:04:46; ben_vulpes: may he go from risk to risk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37500 @ 0.00050927 = 19.0976 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1324191 << ima see how this one holds up. it is kind-of refreshing that you don't have to ASK people about whether they accept bitcoin by now.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 21:49:33; jurov: mircea_popescu et al.: i am using joker.com registrar, it does have sane interface unchanged in past 10 years
mircea_popescu wonders idly how much of france's current problems actually have to do with its ill inspired continuation of a once expedient, long pointless alliance with the ustards, and how much has to do with the ill advised but tribally motivated amnesty miterrand gave to the italian terrorists back when italy decided it had enough of that shit.
jurov: i don't pay them bitcoins
jurov: and first thing they wanted was photo of my cc
mircea_popescu: hahahaah what ?
jurov: (front side only)
mircea_popescu would never use this if it came to not using dns altogether.
mircea_popescu: (i confess i have been contemplating changing to ip-based addresses instead of domains)
jurov: i already did for mpex proxies, they resolved very erratically
mircea_popescu: dns, a solution nobody wants for a problem nobody has.
mircea_popescu: where nobody = marketeers.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1324128 << whgart the shit is this ? << it costs me $7 per month.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 18:04:39; mod6: shinohai: we recieved an email that said if we do not reboot box in the next 24 hours, they will do it for us.
mod6: at some point when the bitcoin isp is up and going and the foundation can afford it or the resources donated, we'll make the switch, happily.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1324165 << imho this is a job for deedbot << eh, Mr. P. said deedbotting the vpatches was a death-wish.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 20:16:58; mod6: with that in mind, going forward maybe something needs to be figured out with some redundancy for V's mirror.
asciilifeform: there is no other way to nail down chronology.
mod6: time doesn't matter, its the precedence. right?
asciilifeform: not only
asciilifeform: there is only one way to reliably broadcast 1) when a particular patch came to exist 2) what the present state of the art may be.
mod6: anyway, i think the real thing I was getting at there as sort of an alternative host incase of necessary reboot or maint to the other host.
asciilifeform: neither is required to build ~a~ press, no
asciilifeform: but enemy will attempt to leverage any serious uncertainty in 1 or 2
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mircea_popescu: mod6 i c :p
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what the fuck ?
mircea_popescu: is this a recurring topic that never gets proper reference to past discussion ?
asciilifeform: did we do this one ?
mircea_popescu: multiple times.
mircea_popescu: patches reference antecedents. there is no notion of time.
mircea_popescu: because time isn't a thing.
asciilifeform: it is a thing in one and only one case
asciilifeform: where somebody gets trapped in a bubble and told 'the state of the art is this thing here and guess what they never got $longagosolveditem to work, therealbitcoin suxx!!1111'
mircea_popescu: this is not our concern.
asciilifeform: then can forget time.
mircea_popescu: stop trying to import usg into bitcoin through the negative.
mircea_popescu: i couldn't give less of a shit what they do. if tomorrow california falls in the ocean i won't notice, nor care.
asciilifeform: wanted to import blockchain time rather than nato time, but sure.
mircea_popescu: not like someone can't do this privately.
mircea_popescu: it's antidesign to bolt it on.
asciilifeform: did not suggest bolting it onto 'v' proper
asciilifeform: but as a thing that could exist independently.
mircea_popescu: so then let it be, once it's used more we'll understand better what;s needed with it in practice.
asciilifeform let the whole thing be, if anyone recalls
asciilifeform: but yes.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 20:46:17; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell danielpbarron mind dropping https://twitter.com/sam_kriss a link to the latest contravex, seeing as how he quite so eloquently inspired the thing
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: nicely done !
phf: tehran has good pistachios
mircea_popescu: i know, that's where i get mine
phf: i've learned recently that one of the larger usian pro-embargo lobbies are pistachio manufacturers
phf: because can't compete with the real thing
pete_dushenski: 'merican pistachios were a nixon thing, neh ?
mircea_popescu: nothing in the us produce section can compete with the real thing.
mircea_popescu: go have say an actual mango
mircea_popescu: avocado.
mircea_popescu: you name it. even the fucking bananas have an actual flavour, as opposed to the styrofoam at walmart.
asciilifeform: possibly from the use of ripening gas
mircea_popescu: "what is this ?" "vegetables and rice" "no it isn't. where you got these ?" "oh, they come in very convenient bags, frozen" "are you fucking crazy ?!"
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phf: tv diners, canned vegetables, bag of crisps, and when feeling fancy (or don't want to deal with cooking for the kids) it's time for a mcdonalds trip!
mircea_popescu: incidentally, is ripening gas still ethylene or did they find some way to use radiocesium or some shit for the purpose ?
asciilifeform: yes, but....
mircea_popescu: phf meanwhile, breadmaking is basic female skill required in mp households.
asciilifeform: '1-Methylcyclopropene (1-MCP) is a gaseous molecule that blocks the sites of ethylene binding and action in fruit. Marketed under the commercial name ‘SmartFreshTM’, it is increasingly used across a wide variety of stored products where the inhibition of ethylene effects is desired.'
asciilifeform: ^ and prolly more.
mircea_popescu: heh. the march of science eh.
asciilifeform: what was it,
asciilifeform: 'feast of engineering !!!1111'
asciilifeform: 'spreading - works!'
phf: actually in u.s. breadmakers is one of those appliances, that people buy and then never use. i know because every time bread comes up in conversation, an owner will point out that they have one. somehow they still buy cardboard bread at store, and only break out breadmaker on special occasions, if ever.
danielpbarron: #PhrenchLivesMatter
pete_dushenski: we had breadmaker growing up. actually used it too.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's not even that, it's more along the lines of "social media derps don't matter", which irks them.
pete_dushenski: #BaguettesMatter
mircea_popescu: so now they're... doing things.
danielpbarron is pretty good at making bread the old fashioned way
mircea_popescu: well you'd have to be, it's the main requisite for being a sourdough miner!
danielpbarron: i don't use that stupid machine either
mircea_popescu: is this a dough hook on a motor ?
mircea_popescu: or you mean the actual "hey epson now makes bread" assembly line in your kitchen thing
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phf: danielpbarron: yeah, girl bakes bread in oven on the regular, i just stick to poor engineer's substitute for day to day-- chapatis
danielpbarron: i don't even use that; I kneed by hand
mircea_popescu: i suppose the enduring popularity these chunks of nonsense enjoyed should make no one surprised at the 3d printer mania.
phf: mircea_popescu: the second. i think you dump ingredients, bread comes out, but enough manual steps that people still manage to not use it. maybe cleaning is the time consuming part..
pete_dushenski: ~$100 - 200
mircea_popescu: they make about as much bread as they make guns.
mircea_popescu: in this line, there was a time in central/eastern yurp when married woman HAD to have sewing machine.
mircea_popescu: maybe 10% of them did anything useful with it.
asciilifeform was about to ask 'who the fuck cancelled this' but then remembered chinese pseudoclothes
mircea_popescu: it is a craft tho, the expectation you spend the 1500 dm and wife can now make clothes is out of place.
pete_dushenski: https://www.nknews.org/2015/11/conversations-with-north-koreans/ << “This so-called South Korea thing,” he sneered, “it’s just America.” “You say isolated. We say self-reliant. That’s our ideology. That’s how we weather economic crises caused by America,” << damn. spot on !
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mircea_popescu: the haircuts, also ?
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 14:33:45; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu brings up interesting point. entirely possible that north kr will binge to death on reddit, like the red skinned man did on liquor, when the time comes
asciilifeform: and other threadz re: same.
pete_dushenski: trading beaver pelts for shiny beads and reddit gold eh
danielpbarron: they should better trade for shiny rock and eulorian coppers
asciilifeform: north kr is largely free of usg but as a consequence has no immunity
asciilifeform: it will liquify like an axenic mouse.
mircea_popescu: in other news, i would like to announce
mircea_popescu: that should the nobel committee decide to give stoya the peace prize i am prepared to accept it on her behalf
pete_dushenski: please to post btc address for peaceful winnings
mircea_popescu: obviously i have no relation to either the woman or her line of work, and she could just as well do it on her own, but i'm aspiring to be as cool as Chowcoolie Whatsiname one day.
mircea_popescu: http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/faculty/finance/faculty/chowdhry << in case you're wondering what the vermin usg has created looks like.
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mircea_popescu: it's not JUST bharara. there's an entire generation of this scum barnacling the place.
asciilifeform unfortunately knows very well what they look like.
asciilifeform: really not so different from that other nomenklatura.
mircea_popescu: very different. they were georgians not fucking eskimo.
asciilifeform: now this, yes
asciilifeform: but overall flavour is the same.
mircea_popescu: "oh , but india just happens to have a culture that promotes abject replication."
mircea_popescu: yeah, exactly.
asciilifeform: but the classical india featherbedding - this, yes!
phf: i think in su the purpose of sewing machine was to pirate french pret-a-porter that would not be otherwise accessible in stores. could buy sewing pattern magazines, i.e. Burda. aunt made some side money in the 70s making garments "like them french girls"
mircea_popescu: ex "mechanical engineer", reminds me a lot of the rather famous zarone, g g dej's driver, then minister.
asciilifeform: more elementarily, to fix torn things faster/with less sweat
mircea_popescu: phf yes, that was the theory.
mircea_popescu: the practice however, was that about one in ten women were worth the cutting cloth.
mircea_popescu: i suspect germany (all opf the machines had to be german!!1) made marginally more money selling the gear than the women in question saved, had exports been allowed.
mircea_popescu: the truth of this point can be appreciated by the incredible expansion of lohn in the 90s in eeu.
phf: lohn?
mircea_popescu: it's a delivery/production agreement in light industry, mostly textiles
phf: aah
mircea_popescu: something very similar is widely used in eulora, too.
phf: is that german word?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the gist of it is that "manufacturer" gets tooling on credit, materials sourced by and fixed sale contracts to the same party.
mircea_popescu: ie, "Here is this samovar, here are the bundles, make me the product"
pete_dushenski: sounds like franchised restaurant
kakobrekla: hm, 'lon' here means 'payment', old, obscure word not in use much in that sense
mircea_popescu: no, the franchisee bears most of the risk.
mircea_popescu: this is basically the fundamental deal of "we have unskilled, obedient derps here and nothing else. what now ?"
mircea_popescu: how china was built, also.
phf: gibson in his latest novel has something similar happen to 3d printers, i.e. suburban shops that get 3d printers on credit, manufacture replacement parts on demand from stl or verbal description
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: there's really no good way to describe it outside of "here are stupid people in a historical valley". i it's a mix of factoring, leasing and outsourcing supply provisioning + financing in one package.
mircea_popescu: one more tweak and you'd be ceo of your own company on reddit.
pete_dushenski: except for the 'obedient' element, which reddit utterly lacks
mircea_popescu: are you kidding me ?
mircea_popescu: they're the most obedient people alive.
mircea_popescu: granted, they obey stupid people saying stupid things, but ...
pete_dushenski: as long as they're not actually working, yes
mircea_popescu: well, lohn was for the derpy chicks that weren't willing to be ACTUALLY working, also.
mircea_popescu: (ie, working the street)
mircea_popescu: this is how this goes.
pete_dushenski: right, also not reddit, who couldn't be made to work with a pitchfork poking them in the ass
mircea_popescu: seems to me they work at producing poorly strung together sentences by the boatload.
pete_dushenski: they'd sooner break down in tears and call for their mommy/police than dig ditch
pete_dushenski: writing poorly =! work
pete_dushenski: it's "fun"
mircea_popescu: yes, well, again : this is how this goes. the entire point of "economy" is the redefinition of work.
mircea_popescu: hence all the "do what you love" "work while you're sleeping" "you won't believe it's actually work not butter" etc.
pete_dushenski: aha. 'follow your heart' myth
mircea_popescu: if you're nto going to be beating the monkeys into working, you'll be stuck tricking them, because the cock ain't gonna suck itself.
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pete_dushenski: self-licking cocksicle ?
pete_dushenski send texts to friends as to last-minute sat night plans, got back "busy tonight. free dec. 12!"
mircea_popescu: no, i gotta quote this damned thing, it's incredible.
pete_dushenski: i'm losing touch either on account of family, internets, or... something. but a regular on 'the scene' is not me. not anymore.
mircea_popescu: "Biography
mircea_popescu: Bhagwan Chowdhry is a Professor of Finance at UCLA Anderson where he has held an appointment since 1988.
mircea_popescu: Professor Chowdhry has also taught at the University of Chicago, University of Illinois at Chicago, the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, and the Indian School of Business. He received his Ph.D. in 1989 from the Graduate School of Business at the University of Chicago. He also has an M.B.A. in Finance from the University of Iowa and a B.Tech. in Mechanical Engineering from Indian Institute of Technology.
mircea_popescu: His research interests, on which he has published several papers in finance and economics journals, are in International Finance and Corporate Finance and Strategy. He has been on the editorial board of a number of finance journals. He teaches International Finance, Corporate Finance and Financial Institutions at Anderson. He has also organized and taught Executive Education programs on Financial Derivatives, Corporate
mircea_popescu: Risk Management and Valuation in Los Angeles, Singapore, Hong Kong, Mumbai, and Hyderabad.
mircea_popescu: Microfinance has been his recent teaching, research and applied interest. He has supervised several MBA student projects in Microfinance in the last several years and has taught an undergraduate seminar class and an MBA elective on the subject. He has developed a new model for "Franchising Microfinance" on which he has written a research paper and is studying the feasibility of implementing the model with a Microfinanc
mircea_popescu: e Institution.
mircea_popescu: Professor Chowdhry has recently proposed Financial Access at Birth (FAB) initiative in which every child born in the world is given an initial deposit of $100 in an online bank account to guarantee that everyone in the world will have access to financial services in a few decades.You can read about the initiative by clicking here..
mircea_popescu: Professor Chowdhry is the co-founder (with Professor Ivo Welch) and Executive Editor of a new publication Finance & Accounting Memos (FAMe) that makes academic research more accessible for MBA and PhD students, journal"
mircea_popescu: "some" ?
mircea_popescu: this guy did nothing his entire fucking life, outside of being a coolie for who the fuck knows what highly placed usg libtard.
mircea_popescu: and now i wanna know which one.
asciilifeform: sorta how mr o was for bill ayers
mircea_popescu: apparently gotta burn this hot iron of "if you lift your head up it WILL get cut off" into ever more ustardian lardass.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, sandnigger did "some articles" in "some papers".
mircea_popescu: that's his bio.
asciilifeform: and he's rich, yes
asciilifeform: (usg-rich, rather than mircea_popescu-rich, but still)
mircea_popescu: been at ucla since 1988 (that's 27 years for the mit-educated log readers), and what he has to say for it is "oh, i heard of bitcoin recently".
mircea_popescu: chicago, by pure coincidence.
mircea_popescu: they sure got themselves a nice cozy stupid club going there don't they.\
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo if you feel like hunting down the fabled papers this insult to culture has defecated upon the language of his father's masters, i'd like to hear a summary.
mircea_popescu: maybe there's something juicy in there like you know, plagiarism (for sure there is), and like mathematica stealing of stuff from people (almost willing to bet)
asciilifeform: btw plagiarism is as asian as rice.
mircea_popescu: you don't say.
asciilifeform: for any martians reading this.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, the entire exercise shows you that the previously discussed reserve powers bother the derps.
mircea_popescu: gotta find dat satoshi!
asciilifeform: this stretches the bounds of the plausible
mircea_popescu: it does ?
asciilifeform: if s wouldn't emerge to cash in his premine, why would he emerge for a paltry 1m usd ?
asciilifeform: esp given as the latter comes with guaranteed einsatzkommando and gasenwagen
mircea_popescu: i have this pile of very secret derpage here including the very expert "profile" of some random derp explaining how an elderly, principled gentleman is perhaps going to react crazily to the crass injustice of this entire scheme.
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm not holding it the right side up or something.
asciilifeform: posted anywhere ?
asciilifeform: any particular reason mircea_popescu would care to share re: why not ?
mircea_popescu: but if it helps you any, the secret production of the river of meat is no more readable (or worth reading) than its visible outpour.
mircea_popescu: cuz i said it won't be.
asciilifeform: iirc this was tried at least once earlier
asciilifeform: when they dressed up the monkey as s
asciilifeform: on some stage
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what strained whey must be found in their brainboxes to imagine someone actually gives half a rat's arse what the usg CALLS the moving of moneys from one pocket to another.
mircea_popescu: the inescapable disease of the stupid, this.
mircea_popescu: "oh, if i take a million bux and one plastic golden medal from the nobel pocket and put it intop the ucla pocket, someone's going to take it at face value!11"
mircea_popescu: who the fuck, other than indians 2nd generation in shoes.
asciilifeform: i suppose it can also be inferred that the coke machine is ready
asciilifeform: to receive s if and when.
asciilifeform wonders if it was built to his specs as described here
mircea_popescu: lmao yeah, ucla.
mircea_popescu: he'll get a professorship. WHO WOULD NOT WANT A PROFESSORSHIP!111
asciilifeform: posthumous professorship
asciilifeform: (have they got these?)
mircea_popescu: so pervasive, this braindamage. what higher aspiration a gentleman scholar could have than to be trapped on a "campus" populated by monkeys unfit to carry water.
asciilifeform: actually
asciilifeform: there are several kinds of 'professorship' some of which don't include actually clocking in
asciilifeform once worked for a fella like that. he showed up every quarter, or so
mircea_popescu: i'd rather work as an orderly at some establishment dedicated to humor research on public moneys (also known as insane asylum) than be a fucking professor in the us.
asciilifeform: again, not all of them actually see the monkeys
asciilifeform: some are just titled gentry pure and simple.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, and that's what they'll make him, too.
asciilifeform: well, the double
mircea_popescu: you're so carnal, you know.
asciilifeform: the man himself, (or bourbaki, etc), if ever shows up, will die in the machine.
mircea_popescu: this ain't how the thing works. if it abhors anything, it's actual meat. for some reason.
mircea_popescu: ironic, i guess
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asciilifeform: i suspect that this'd be one of those cases where the constituent parts would spontaneously rearrange themselves on the sheer strength of the premined coin
asciilifeform: to form whatever it takes to actualize the cokemachine.
mircea_popescu: yeah. and obama would go into it.
mircea_popescu: the actual boulder of irony in here is that if the usg actually got the stash, it'd crash it.
asciilifeform: like phalaris into the bull ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if i was running forward ss in 1985 moscow, what i'd do is have a huge supply of $stuff crash 30 miles from moscow.
asciilifeform still can't picture them wanting anything else in the end other than crashing
mircea_popescu: end it right there.
mircea_popescu: the only impediment being that nobody had made essence of jeans and toiletpaper in weightless form, back then.
mircea_popescu: but bitcoin is by its nature EXACTLY the heroin usg individuals want.
pete_dushenski: "it'd crash it." << like boating 'accident' ?
mircea_popescu: like "o noes, accidentally hercules carrying 200 tons of gold was downed by the brave men of air defense".
mircea_popescu: "now what"
pete_dushenski: now germany's sol
mircea_popescu: yeah, they won't know who to send the mercedeses to.
mircea_popescu: while the aparatchicks shoot each other in the street.
pete_dushenski: china :)
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell BingoBoingo like http://www.hubcapmike.com/images/imp-8-baby-moon-hubcap-on-23-hotrod-wheel.jpg ? big fan. especially on fiat 500/vw bug. also a fan of plain steely look for winters.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: or bullet-proof box gets ticked on mercedes order form a little more regularly
pete_dushenski: like in russia
pete_dushenski: "oh you want regular s-class ? 3-month wait. bullet-proof ready for pick-up today, we have a lot full of 'em"
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pete_dushenski: o hey fireworks out my window
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pete_dushenski: says intel
pete_dushenski: "Mayor Don Iveson will welcome Santa from the North Pole, to officially light the 72-ft Christmas Tree! The tree is adorned with 14-thousand LED lights, cascading snowfalls, sparkles, and stars. After the tree ceremony, a spectacular, fireworks show will light up Downtown skies."
pete_dushenski: or what to do when you have too much money in the public coffers and a lot of young families with jack all to do on a saturday night
pete_dushenski: the effect would benefit immensely from some snow on the ground, which, incredibly, we don't have yet.
pete_dushenski: i blame carbon.
jurov: !s gasenwagen from:asciilifeform
assbot: 61 results for 'gasenwagen from:asciilifeform' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=gasenwagen+from%3Aasciilifeform
jurov: !s gasenwagen from:ascii_field
assbot: 8 results for 'gasenwagen from:ascii_field' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=gasenwagen+from%3Aascii_field
jurov: !s ascii_wagen
assbot: 1 results for 'ascii_wagen' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ascii_wagen
jurov: aok, not yet.
asciilifeform: l0l, jurov can't wait ?
jurov: jus' checking
jurov spent the day porting his external brain (foswiki) from perl to common lisp
jurov: so far managed only rendering of tables.. but starting to like lisp already
asciilifeform: using v. sedach's 'parenscript' lib, or ab initio ?
jurov: ab initio
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BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1324238 << Generally they do urine. But yes can't test for infinity things, but testers only need to go to reddit to discover which research chemicals the kids are eating as "dietary supplements." There's actually a range of chemicals called SARMS going through pre-clinical to Phase III trials as drugs being sold as supplements. God bless China.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 22:40:42; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1324119 << there is a very strict limit for testing, specifically that you can't test without reagent, and the reagent must react with something. ergo every single substance tested requires some blood. you can't take eight pints out of athletes, much less infinity pints, so you can't test for infinity things.
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2015 01:10:22; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo if you feel like hunting down the fabled papers this insult to culture has defecated upon the language of his father's masters, i'd like to hear a summary.
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assbot: Logged on 15-11-2015 01:33:44; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell BingoBoingo like http://www.hubcapmike.com/images/imp-8-baby-moon-hubcap-on-23-hotrod-wheel.jpg ? big fan. especially on fiat 500/vw bug. also a fan of plain steely look for winters.
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2015 01:37:30; pete_dushenski: http://hooniverse.com/2013/08/05/photos-mercedes-benz-w126-armored-police-car/ << with uzi (?) built into passenger-side door, even.
pete_dushenski: aha. good eye
phf: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1510.08555.pdf "Why Johnny Still, Still Can’t Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client". wtf is the point of these "studies"? "We elected to test Mailvelope, a modern PGP tool, for our study. Mailvelope is a browser extension that integrates with users’ webmail systems." "Participants were allocated sixty minutes to com- plete the study, with about 35-40 minutes spent using Mail- velope."
asciilifeform: old nyooz
phf: couldn't find it in logs, but i'm fascinated by this "research". top comment on lobste.rs where it got posted links to http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/whats-matter-with-pgp.html which was pretty discussed. "there's consensus!" somebody ought to publish meta study of "gpg poor usability"
assbot: A Few Thoughts on Cryptographic Engineering: What's the matter with PGP? ... ( http://bit.ly/1QE27o9 )
phf: *was previously
pete_dushenski: this disinfo is at least as old as Alma Whitten and J. D. Tygar 1999. Why Johnny can’t encrypt: A usability evaluation of PGP 5.0. if not older
pete_dushenski: ref 10 in 'paper'
mircea_popescu: "usability" is a concern for cryptographic systems like "glaring absence of shit stuck on all sides of rifle" is a concern for kalashnikov design.
pete_dushenski: 'need more dildo for userbase!'
mircea_popescu: "Except maybe not: if you happen to do this with GnuPG 2.0.18 -- one version off from the very latest GnuPG -- the client won't actually bother to check the fingerprint of the received key. A malicious server (or HTTP attacker) can ship you back the wrong key and you'll get no warning. This is fixed in the very latest versions of GPG but... Oy Vey."
mircea_popescu: the conclusion is remarkably not "pgp 2.x is a scam"
mircea_popescu: but "pgp is bad" which was the entire point of the 2.x branch of "developlent" in the first fucking place.
mircea_popescu: the only conclusion of that piece of nonsense is that Matthew Green must die. nothing more.
asciilifeform: !s johnny encrypt
assbot: 2 results for 'johnny encrypt' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=johnny+encrypt
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mircea_popescu: "(Let's not get into the NSA's collect-it-all policy for encrypted messages. If the NSA is your adversary just forget about PGP.)" << yeah, right. THAT is why i read their stuff and they don't read my stuff, because i take advice from john hopkins fucktards.
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mircea_popescu: phf it's research in the sense "earth sciences" are research.
mircea_popescu: "let's pretend like the patently untrue bullshit we want to push is not arbitrary but necessary"
mircea_popescu: the principal sleigh of hand here is the implication, unspoken but universally pushed, that you would want "automatic" encryption. ie somehow the "standard" shouild be a "browswer extension" or other such crap.
mircea_popescu: never trust a man that does automatic cryptography.
pete_dushenski: "Some derp at John Hopkins University, who calls himself a “Cryptographer and Research Professor” instead of the more apt “USG mole.”" << lel. my footnoted description of mr. green.
pete_dushenski: maybe he was just following orders, maybe he didn't know better, but he still sucks and he's still a fraud.
pete_dushenski: 'if you see a fraud and don't call him a fraud, you're a fraud' (tm) (herr taleb)
BingoBoingo: Looks like Mizzou's whatever problems will resolve soon. 10 point lead with less than 10 minutes on the clock
phf: i've not looked at the original why johnny can't, but after my recent in-depth exposure to "conscientious programmers" rabbit hole decided to look at the paper's methodology. linked arxiv is a new addition to the subject, oct 29th
pete_dushenski: "The NFL says it will increase security inside and outside its stadiums for Sunday's games, two days after the Paris terrorist attacks." << lolwut. dear nfl: you're irrelevant. not even isis cares about you. don't waste your breath and your money chasing away your remaining fans by making irl games even MORE of a hassle to attend.
pete_dushenski: as if waiting 4 hours in a stand-still parking lot after a 100`000 doods and doodettes clear a stadium wasn't disincentive enough to stay at home and order pizza, moar sekoority should seal it
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phf: from the same muppets, "Confused Johnny: When Automatic Encryption Leads to Confusion and Mistakes", "This paper gives an overview of Pwm (Private Webmail), our secure webmail system that uses security overlays to integrate tightly with existing webmail services like Gmail. Pwm’s security is mostly transparent, includ- ing automatic key management and automatic encryption." ... "A key escrow server handles key management. ... The
phf: disadvantage of key escrow is that the key es- crow server has access to users’ keys, which is a recognized trade-off to get the other usability benefits"
phf: and to tie it all nicely, latest muppet lab announcement, http://isrl.byu.edu/506-2/ "Kent Seamons and Daniel Zappala received an NSF grant for Middleware for Certificate-Based Authentication. This is a three-year award for $496,900. The goal of this research is to develop a trust platform that consolidates the decision-making process into a single location to provide a correct, consistent, and usable service for all existing and
assbot: New NSF Grant Received | Internet Security Research Lab ... ( http://bit.ly/1QE3Tpd )
phf: future applications."
pete_dushenski is off. bon soir a tous !
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mircea_popescu: im gonna give out a whole milion eulora coppers. which are actually backed by more substance than usdollars.
mircea_popescu: just need to find sometrhing to study.
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2015 03:20:51; mircea_popescu: the conclusion is remarkably not "pgp 2.x is a scam"
asciilifeform: in most of the same ways, also.
asciilifeform: but at least 1.x doesn't (i shit thee not) invoke x11 crud
phf: is that for password entry, or something else?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2015#1324698 << usg ! implementing the t3rr0ristz!!111 winning since '01 ! accept no substitute !11
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2015 03:32:42; pete_dushenski: as if waiting 4 hours in a stand-still parking lot after a 100`000 doods and doodettes clear a stadium wasn't disincentive enough to stay at home and order pizza, moar sekoority should seal it
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2015#1324696 << it is generally safe to 'set the bozo bit' on the whole gaggle of idiots
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2015 03:30:48; phf: i've not looked at the original why johnny can't, but after my recent in-depth exposure to "conscientious programmers" rabbit hole decided to look at the paper's methodology. linked arxiv is a new addition to the subject, oct 29th
asciilifeform: i'll consider reading a paper with actual maths/algo but anything else now tends to fall into 'entomology'
asciilifeform: which i try to leave to the mega-entomologists
phf: this is the default approach, but i've never looked at this sort of papers before. it's more like a shimmering mound that you saw from the window of your house upon closer inspection turned out a pile of shit covered in flies. "omg there's shit everywhere! and flies!"
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BingoBoingo: Mizzou beats BYU 20-16, expect the drama in Missouri to stop being news, or at least stop being local news
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