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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14476 @ 0.00073602 = 10.6546 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up brg444 You need the key to up yourself
BingoBoingo: Perhaps if away and with urgent business use a nick like brg444_AtBar ?
brg444: noted. thanks
brg444: anybody here care for this dude Trace Mayer? never really bothered with him but thought he had couple of good insights in this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHXfEJD6DUk
assbot: Trace Mayer: "We need to remove the smell from bitcoin" - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LBcoQ8 )
brg444: says there is supposedly a BTC exchange in Switzerland moving more BTC than all exchanges combined but staying on the low because of FATCA
cazalla: ooh that smell
brg444: (obviously that would likely not include MPEX)
cazalla: brg444, obviously it's only smellz
brg444: judging by the way he was going in on the lad likely the smell he refers to is Gavin :D
brg444: about that, of course "there is nothing new in this world" but I thought this part was particularly lulzy : dude was having lunch with the power rangers (adam back, gmaxwell & gavin) and asked "why do we hire Bitcoin" to which Back & Maxwell replied "monetary sovereignty" and Gavin "because I feel warm and fuzzy when I make a payment".. smh
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Malaysian Ringgit to continue collapse - http://bitbet.us/bet/1207/malaysian-ringgit-to-continue-collapse/#b3
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40450 @ 0.0007407 = 29.9613 BTC [+]
cazalla: brg444, i listened to this podcast a little but it seemed to be not much more than an avenue to market whatever junk he has invested ein
mod6: asciilifeform: ok, done this now. created 'test-release.vpatch' which has incoming edges from all current leaves; this was a decent test for my code too.
mod6: worked good!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42500 @ 0.00073287 = 31.147 BTC [-] {3}
brg444: cazalla, well he's wrong on a couple of things but I think it is a valuable service to remind everyone of why Bitcoin is there and how much money was wasted targeting broken business plans
brg444: (although it does look funny in the light now considering he's an investor in Bitpay)
brg444: I don't recall him pushing any service or company...
brg444: anyways, thought there was some interesting nuggets in there (switzerland exchange and the little bit about how Venezuelans using BTC to escape capital control)
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5475 @ 0.00073025 = 3.9981 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51950 @ 0.00073593 = 38.2316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52026 @ 0.00072939 = 37.9472 BTC [-] {3}
cazalla: ;;later tell brg444 when i said this podcast, i meant his podcast, not that specific one you linked to on jewtube
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.00072919 = 30.5895 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46900 @ 0.00072911 = 34.1953 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47196 @ 0.00072908 = 34.4097 BTC [-] {2}
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b31
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00072908 = 14.2171 BTC [-]
punkman: 2005: look at this, I can get my toaster to run Linux! / 2015: bleh, my toaster runs Linux / 2025: I wish I could get a toaster without Linux
fluffypony: punkman: the "retro" crap has already started, have you seen that Casio calculator that was released?
punkman: fluffypony: does it run android?
assbot: Would You Pay $225 For Casio's Calculator? - eXtravaganzi ... ( http://bit.ly/1KFVfAk )
assbot: Casio S100 Flagship Pocket Calculator Celebrates 50 Years Of Calculated Progress ... ( http://bit.ly/1KFVj3g )
fluffypony: it's "retro" because it's just a calculator
punkman: nothing wrong with that
fluffypony: no I know, I'm just saying that the "I wish I could get a toaster without Linux" movement has already started :-P
punkman: you got a point there, but perhaps the movement always exists, a counterweight to "progress"
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 02:29:07; mircea_popescu: !rate crescendo -1 Aka Eric Martindale. Nice job trying to sell me/MPEx bitpay shares a week before information was to come out that'd render them worthless. Say hello to Daphna for me.
assbot: i work for vice (@iworkforvice) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1KFW9gf )
assbot: Cat finds out his place is bugged. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OWU2dk )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00072955 = 14.1168 BTC [+]
cazalla: that is the second time today i've seen manuls
punkman: !up evilthomas
punkman: "People finding xss in sites and contacting them to see if they have bounties are the equiv of homeless people washing your dirty windshield"
punkman: hah "Heard often on fed P25 radio in Philly today: "Turn your encryption off. I can't hear you""
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49582 @ 0.00073022 = 36.2058 BTC [+] {3}
cazalla: been that way for a while punkman, half the reason i never made money while i slept!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4441 @ 0.00073149 = 3.2485 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33883 @ 0.00073623 = 24.9457 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: http://newscrusher.com/video/girl-speaks-fluent-american/ <<< surprisingly apt representation of youth in america.
assbot: Girl “Speaks Fluent American”, Doesn’t Really Have A Clue About Anything | NewsCrusher ... ( http://bit.ly/1OWX15A )
punkman: "Anas Aremeyaw Anas is known for, as he calls it, the “naming, shaming and jailing” of criminals all over Ghana – yet few people would be able to pick him out of a crowd."
cazalla: shinohai, she gives the subtle troll away at 1:01
shinohai: 'tis hilarious though, a righteous lampoon.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23318 @ 0.00073216 = 17.0725 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Neo-Nazi, radical feminist and violent jihadist - all at once - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1OX0iSd )
assbot: Bitcoin Processor BitPay Reduces Staff in Cost-Cutting Effort ... ( http://bit.ly/1KTr0tl )
shinohai: BitPay has reduced the size of its staff in an effort to recoup losses due to inept management that lead to hax.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00073916 = 22.3226 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00073301 = 14.8801 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31592 @ 0.00072596 = 22.9345 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285441 << dudes that go "we" on youtube ARE the smell.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 04:18:30; brg444: anybody here care for this dude Trace Mayer? never really bothered with him but thought he had couple of good insights in this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHXfEJD6DUk
mircea_popescu: dude the notion that someone has a currency named "ringgit"... give 'em a carrot already an' pat their ears back, too fucking cute.
shinohai: rimmit
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 04:36:30; brg444: cazalla, well he's wrong on a couple of things but I think it is a valuable service to remind everyone of why Bitcoin is there and how much money was wasted targeting broken business plans
assbot: The future of Bitcoin regulation on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KyS2ol )
mircea_popescu: to get to the point : it is not a valuable service to try and interpose oneself in front of actual power and pretend relationship. nor could it ever be. nor is it a sane or useful "strategy", nor does it ever work worth a shit.
mircea_popescu: "we" don't need random derp on youtubue to rehash what mp says a year-two later forgetting to mention the source. not because mp gives a shit, but because the sort of "we" that actually end up thinking their plastics are "made in the usa" generally get raped and can't figure out why.
mircea_popescu: if there weren't a pile of these "we"s running around, people^H^H^H^H reddit wouldn't be puzzling in the land of the lost "omaigawd bitcoinxt" etc.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 07:02:45; punkman: 2005: look at this, I can get my toaster to run Linux! / 2015: bleh, my toaster runs Linux / 2025: I wish I could get a toaster without Linux
mircea_popescu: "1965 hey look at this, they make houses out plastic now / 1985 bleh, my house is made out of plastic / 2005 i wish i could get a house not made of plastic"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wut ?
shinohai: i have one of those light switches w/ android
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 07:56:30; punkman: "Anas Aremeyaw Anas is known for, as he calls it, the “naming, shaming and jailing” of criminals all over Ghana – yet few people would be able to pick him out of a crowd."
assbot: Stage n: Bitcoin exists. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1YF2TVp )
mircea_popescu: they got social media to "share ideas and stuff" just as long as those ideas are you know, easy, self flattering and funny.
mircea_popescu: shiny happy people!
shinohai: free slaps?
mircea_popescu: how about free hunger and poverty.
mircea_popescu: and free strippings nude, free whippings and free strychnine injections.
mircea_popescu: you too can be an entertainer!
punkman: oh he's all over the social media in US/UK, even Obama mentioned him. at least as long as he stays in Ghana.
assbot: Ghana's top undercover journalist masters disguise to expose corruption | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1KyTOWE )
mircea_popescu: punkman no buti mean, the widgets oir w/e on the page in question
punkman: yeah just a sample of what the "media" is writing about him
mircea_popescu: pretty kickass name anyway
mircea_popescu: o noes, look at that, eth is not a coin to trade but a technology ever closer to 3
assbot: Marlene Dietrich: Where Have All The Flowers Gone? (Royal Variety Performance. 1963) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1YF3Cpr )
assbot: ethereumwallet.org : ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1KyUUBQ )
shinohai: ~1700
punkman: "Running the code locally is better, but I think even the github code could be updated to leak keys to an external server. Wouldn't we need audited milestones with crc checks to be secure?"
mircea_popescu: "Wait. So someone purchased etherwallet.org (a premium domain name worth a not trivial amount of money most likely), put the work into creating an actual functional wallet with a pretty decent design, spent weeks promoting it, and for what? $1400? What is this? Kindergarten?"
mircea_popescu: ahaha PREMIUMDOMAINNAME
mircea_popescu: these freaks really think everything's worth money don't they.
mircea_popescu: but coming back to the issue, isn't "ethereum the webthreezeroeum technologee" supposed to have scripted contracts or something to be the future of future moneys ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00073301 = 16.1995 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: did i fundamentally misunderstand what the promotional lie was supposed to be ?
assbot: IRS Agent Busted for Attempting to Extort $20,000 from Cannabis Shop Owner | The Free Thought Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1KyVuj1 )
mircea_popescu: because clearly teh irs is such a respectable, law abiding institution.
fluffypony: punkman: lol CRC checks
fluffypony: tell them 1992 called and it wants its easily-defeated crap back
mircea_popescu: what you can add like comments in the file and shit ?
mircea_popescu: NOBODY COULD HAVE FORETOLD!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38548 @ 0.00073453 = 28.3147 BTC [+] {3}
davout: that is, if anyone actually checks them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58600 @ 0.00073311 = 42.9602 BTC [-] {5}
jurov: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.004 / 0.00438369 / 0.00492306 (460 shares, 2.02 BTC), 30D: 0.004 / 0.00471241 / 0.00492306 (4734 shares, 22.31 BTC)
jurov: ;;calc 1/0.004
gribble: 250
jurov: whoa
jurov: ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 211.5, Best ask: 212.499, Bid-ask spread: 0.99900, Last trade: 212.499, 24 hour volume: 90.15698134, 24 hour low: 205.00006001, 24 hour high: 212.82, 24 hour vwap: 209.84152397
jurov: but davout's bot is mia, again
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00073937 = 18.8909 BTC [+] {3}
davout: jurov: it doesn't really like my shitty internet apparently...
assbot: The Big Short Trailer (2015) ‐ Paramount Pictures - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQSXmC )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00073546 = 21.549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00073411 = 25.6204 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50001 @ 0.00073982 = 36.9917 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14298 @ 0.00072953 = 10.4308 BTC [-]
davout: jurov: tis back
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00072606 = 11.3265 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12152 @ 0.00072606 = 8.8231 BTC [-]
assbot: Castigo di 4 aña di prison pa homber cu a hasi sex cu su propio yiu muher — Diario Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1jhxvfl )
mircea_popescu: (nominally, dutch speaking)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17469 @ 0.00073996 = 12.9264 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: "Ah the old "got what they deserved" and "should have known better" racket. That applies to dumbass butter cultists but not the normal people who need jobs and happen to land at this company. "
mircea_popescu: ahahaha o god the bitpay thing has done such an irony twist on buttcoin
mircea_popescu: who knew unemployment is the true fear of the libertard.
mircea_popescu: gotta twist this knife more.
funkenstein_: whoa cool
funkenstein_: "Linguistic studies have shown that roughly two thirds of the words in Papiamentu's present vocabulary are of Iberian origin, a quarter are of Dutch origin,and some of Native American origin and the rest come from other tongues."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.0007401 = 21.0188 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: basically these are the remnants of the arawak
shinohai: weird
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15130 @ 0.0007404 = 11.2023 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: BitBet is THE prediction market, which means it’s basically a megaphone. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LaWhdt )
assbot: From Radio to Porn, British Spies Track Web Users’ Online Identities ... ( http://bit.ly/1LaWmh3 )
assbot: Kaspersky User-Agent Strings - NSA - The Intercept ... ( http://bit.ly/1LaWWvh )
assbot: The bitter rivalry behind the world’s smallest chess program ... ( http://bit.ly/1LaX5il )
pete_dushenski: !up thestringpuller
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: ^^^
pete_dushenski: who's that atop the pig ?
thestringpuller: Zim and Gir.
thestringpuller: Only think asciilifeform is that is a government pig.
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20150222033906262/ChessBytes.html << i've had this in a tab for months. seems bootchess' reputation is becoming more renown. doesn't have castling and a few other things iirc
thestringpuller: Lol good ol Tyson: "People don't really understand a currency based on numerical equations. I personally still don't ... but I'm grateful to be a part of the revolution"
pete_dushenski: "Camera Restricta is a speculative design of a new kind of camera. It locates itself via GPS and searches online for photos that have been geotagged nearby. If the camera decides that too many photos have been taken at your location, it retracts the shutter and blocks the viewfinder. You can't take any more pictures here." << notbad for an 'artist' (philipp schmitt)
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell kakobrekla do you have rss feeds for bit4x that could be added to deedbot- ? vis-a-vis http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-07-2015#1188325, i care !
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 17:25:22; kakobrekla: dunno if anyone particularity cares here, but you can now trade commodities (oil, food..), indices (SP500, DOW...) and bezzlestocks (apple, google..) with bitcoin on bit4x
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: just noticed there has never been a single truly trustworthy mining operation to date.
thestringpuller: from gigavps to asicminer to kncminer etc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00073822 = 7.7882 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: gigavps was a vps service provider, not a miner, neh ?
pete_dushenski: plus, what do you look for in a 'mining operation' that would make it 'trustworthy' ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38448 @ 0.00073475 = 28.2497 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: that's a very vague statement. a garage full of asics could be an 'operation' and it could be in YOUR basement and therefore about as trustworthy as they come
pete_dushenski: i guess never say never ;/
kakobrekla: nah, no rss.
kakobrekla: there 10+ ticks per second, jiggabytes of garbage nobody that isnt trading wants to see
pete_dushenski: http://blogs.wsj.com/cmo/2015/08/28/draftkings-starts-fantasy-football-ad-binge/ << where fiat sports betting is at. $275 - 300 mn bezzlars for fantasy platforms that... advertise
assbot: DraftKings Starts Fantasy Football Ad Binge - CMO Today - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lb12DA )
pete_dushenski: kakobrekla: larger trades a la 'bigbitbets' would be neat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00074058 = 8.5907 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: doesn't have to be noisy
kakobrekla: that doesnt make any sense.
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: gigavps was known for the perpetual mining bond on GLBSE gigabond or whatever. MP recently declassified some logs from him way back when proving it was a ponzi all along.
pete_dushenski: just publishing trades above X value doesn't make sense ?
kakobrekla: i dont see how it could
kakobrekla: do you think my users define the price of aapl stock?
kakobrekla: or the quote on eurusd for that matter.
pete_dushenski: define ? no.
kakobrekla: so you see it would be random useless garbage metadata
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 21:29:41; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla how about you do this specifically : a) make assbot make an hourly report with prices and volumes for each traded commodity ; b) make assbot spot a line trade for each time trade in a commodity goes > 100 btc ; c) make assbot keep a wallet for every person in l2 ; d) allow me to order buys and sells on bit4x via assbot, just gives me a hash to unpack like rating works now.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00073403 = 9.2488 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: you're the boss.
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lb3zxK )
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 10:48:21; shinohai: troll: https://i.imgur.com/4Ra4p98.png
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00073354 = 5.8316 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: !up thestringpuller
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8325 @ 0.00073354 = 6.1067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29614 @ 0.00074065 = 21.9336 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59646 @ 0.00074078 = 44.1846 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00073308 = 29.3965 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18282 @ 0.0007384 = 13.4994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170534 @ 0.00073188 = 124.8104 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
pete_dushenski: "House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), long under fire from conservatives within his own party, will resign Oct. 30."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41051 @ 0.00072883 = 29.9192 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: ^Computer used to design Lexus LS400
pete_dushenski: ls400 was the luxury sedan that launched the brand and turned the segment on its head, showing that high-end cars could be built to last, comfortable, and as boring as wallpaper paste
pete_dushenski: though for some reason the ls400 was never available with the optional in-dash fax machine that was in the toyota century https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPuD2D5VEAAl19N.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPuD2DyVEAAIUpw.jpg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22309 @ 0.00073466 = 16.3895 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell HeySteve Hello to you too
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ETH Last Price 0.00326000 24hr Change -8.78%
ben_vulpes: why is it crashing?
pete_dushenski: because there's nothing there ?
ben_vulpes: !s why is it crashing
assbot: 11 results for 'why is it crashing' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=why+is+it+crashing
assbot: Medical Panel Calls for Further Study of Bayer Sterility Device - WSJ
pete_dushenski: “Women are telling us that if they reported pain during a study they were thrown out of the study,” Dr. Zuckerman said.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13572 @ 0.00073466 = 9.9708 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: and i'm off to the meatspace race. ciao!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17428 @ 0.00073191 = 12.7557 BTC [-]
assbot: Chris Christie: National Guard Leader Given Strict Order To Lose Weight ... ( http://bit.ly/1VdOss4 )
assbot: Ketchup isn’t the king of American condiments. Mayonnaise is - Quartz ... ( http://bit.ly/1VdOArD )
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punkman: handy for viewing diffs side by side and colorized on the terminal https://pypi.python.org/pypi/cdiff
assbot: cdiff 0.9.7 : Python Package Index ... ( http://bit.ly/1VdPpR6 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00073839 = 8.27 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2160 @ 0.0007384 = 1.5949 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20642 @ 0.00074096 = 15.2949 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: ooh, i like the side by side
mike_c: that's cool
punkman: mike_c: yeah you just pipe the diff to it
mike_c: that's going in the toolbox. thanks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51910 @ 0.00073757 = 38.2873 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24350 @ 0.00072916 = 17.755 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00074 = 7.844 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00072916 = 5.4687 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00074 = 8.066 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42147 @ 0.00074096 = 31.2292 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1701 @ 0.00073504 = 1.2503 BTC [-]
assbot: Forcing suspects to reveal phone passwords is unconstitutional, court says | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1MOqZZO )
ascii_field: 'Orin Kerr, a constitutional scholar and former federal prosecutor, suggested that the "Fifth Amendment issues raised by the content of the passcode could be addressed by having the defendants just enter in their passcodes rather than handing them over to the government."'
ascii_field: !s coke machine
assbot: 21 results for 'coke machine' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=coke+machine
trinque: lol @ "compelled compliance"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28701 @ 0.00072746 = 20.8788 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up HeySteve
BingoBoingo: !rate RepublicofBelarus -1 fat
assbot: RepublicofBelarus is not registered in WoT.
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Did you see Atmel was purchased?
trinque: this kerr guy seems like mega-scum
ascii_field: snore.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23681 @ 0.00072596 = 17.1915 BTC [-]
trinque: http://volokh.com/2012/01/24/encrytion-and-the-fifth-amendment-right-against-self-incrimination/ << wherein he agrees that the govt "knowing that you know" the password is sufficient to obviate pleading the 5th
assbot: Encryption and the Fifth Amendment Right Against Self-Incrimination - The Volokh Conspiracy ... ( http://bit.ly/1G7M8GH )
ascii_field: 'nobody expects the spanish inquisition', but only a fool at this point would not expect the Coke Machine.
trinque: ascii_field: the govt is not forcing confession; it's forcing you to tell it the truth it already knows!
ascii_field: this is precisely the condition needed for the coke machine
ascii_field: the automated inquisitor.
ascii_field: usg knows that f(x) == y, you get locked into an edgar-poe-esque contraption until you cough up x
ascii_field: (or until dead)
ascii_field: this is after you watch your wives, children, pets, etc. get woodchippered, naturally
ascii_field: also automatically
ascii_field: until and unless you key in x
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00072474 = 3.6599 BTC [-]
trinque imagines the system freezing due to winblowz 2022 as one pounds the touchscreen begging it to take input
ascii_field: trinque: nah, this'll be the ~other~ usg
ascii_field: the one where ada.
ascii_field: (and certainly no public trials or other circuses)
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 234.77, vol: 23385.36531342 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 232.353, vol: 8052.42872 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 235.72, vol: 13143.09438764 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 245.0, vol: 2.2448 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 238.8018, vol: 22235.52030000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 237.18044, vol: 145.64394813 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 234.184589651, vol: 88.11888908 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 236.007760536
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8246 @ 0.00072474 = 5.9762 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00072407 = 15.3503 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27959 @ 0.00072407 = 20.2443 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTC-dev] Some test patches and my V implementation ... ( http://bit.ly/1NZjGPg )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00073332 = 21.1196 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50744 @ 0.00072275 = 36.6752 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285635 << exactly the wrong kind of fucking ai. a) not actually intelligent ; b) negative - the last thing i fucking want to see is mechanically powered women nagging ; c) not self contained - at least the stupid nag you can beat into the ground.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 14:51:18; pete_dushenski: "Camera Restricta is a speculative design of a new kind of camera. It locates itself via GPS and searches online for photos that have been geotagged nearby. If the camera decides that too many photos have been taken at your location, it retracts the shutter and blocks the viewfinder. You can't take any more pictures here." << notbad for an 'artist' (philipp schmitt)
mircea_popescu: people, stop making stupid women. there's enough of them around as-is.
mircea_popescu: more than enough, really.
jurov read "camera recta" at first.. would kinda work either way
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 15:17:39; kakobrekla: nah.
mircea_popescu: lol yeah jurov
mircea_popescu: objectivus captivus
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285683 << very logical. fucking asswipe caved on the PREVIOUS attempt to use the last remaining power of the senate and reign in the fucking out of control kenyan through the purse.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 16:41:47; pete_dushenski: "House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), long under fire from conservatives within his own party, will resign Oct. 30."
mircea_popescu: he has to be sent away before trying again.
mircea_popescu: fucking idiots, anyway. the only correct thing is to fire the entire civil service, keep the thing closed for ten years, then tentatively put out half a bn or so see what happens.
mircea_popescu: fucking lalaland where the govt is spending trillions, the populace turns into lazy & stupid cattle whose only aspiration is a govt college certificate for a govt "job" doing nothing and spending its time on reddit. then we wonder where did america go.
mircea_popescu: down the fucking drain of public spending, that's where. stop spending money, it is like giving kids candy.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285691 << dude, srsly, he's an argentine. whadda ya want ?
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 16:55:45; pete_dushenski: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPsUXtgUEAAOvz5.jpg << moar pope francis having no taste.
mircea_popescu: he keeps up with cosmo and tries to play pretend he's in it.
mircea_popescu: bah i should look at the pics before commenting. while the general principle is correct that pic doesn't illustrate it at all.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285696 << awww, look at that, back to 32 ? i guess down 8% today is better than the ~16% yesterday. at this rate it will be stable in an infiniy of days!
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 17:02:05; pete_dushenski: ETH Last Price 0.00326000 24hr Change -8.78%
punkman: you now need 540k eth to sell below 0.001, someone must've read the logs
mircea_popescu: didn't they give out 500k to that random hamplanet for reasons ?
punkman: if I had 500k eth I'd definitely trade them in for 1040 btc on poloniex
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285737 << orin kerr is an imbecile, who the fuck taught him to read and write.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 19:55:57; ascii_field: 'Orin Kerr, a constitutional scholar and former federal prosecutor, suggested that the "Fifth Amendment issues raised by the content of the passcode could be addressed by having the defendants just enter in their passcodes rather than handing them over to the government."'
punkman: 73mil eth available, huh, that's a lot
mircea_popescu: gotta grant it to the pump artists, did a much better job with this than the other team did with ripple.
mircea_popescu: basically the situation is, the chumpatronic engineering progresses much faster than the chumps.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285749 << and how the fuck does "the government" know the mind of man.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 20:08:43; trinque: http://volokh.com/2012/01/24/encrytion-and-the-fifth-amendment-right-against-self-incrimination/ << wherein he agrees that the govt "knowing that you know" the password is sufficient to obviate pleading the 5th
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2014 19:22:37; mircea_popescu: the devil himself knows not the thought of man
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14434 @ 0.00073333 = 10.5849 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26624 @ 0.0007343 = 19.55 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/#c5151 << this bet has been SUCH a lulzy excursion into the "how tenuous a grasp of logic does the general public possess ?"
assbot: BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 101.11 B (97%) on Yes, 2.96 B (3%) on No | closing in 9 months 1 week| weight: 89`332 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LbUSmR )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25363 @ 0.00073504 = 18.6428 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: somehow the concept that if a => b => c => d => f then if (a || b || c || d || f) reduces to if (a) is not directly fucking obvious to this horde of illiterate college graduates.
mircea_popescu: they just know THE METHODS, completely blind to the substance, protest "d is poorly defined". da fuck difference does it make. not like d can ever be the deciding factor.
mircea_popescu: but no, three-ring binder logician musts needs formal match because it's his only interface to the world.
mircea_popescu: racists are people who say nigger. empathy is saying words. stuff!!1
mircea_popescu can only imagine that an optimizing compiler would look if written by tards born this millenium, and what mel'd think of it.
mircea_popescu: !up Bingo_VACAY
mircea_popescu: is that vaca y pollo ?
Bingo_VACAY: It's cheap scotch weekend
Bingo_VACAY: I swear as a TA I would not have passed those bbet commenters
Bingo_VACAY: But professor would have "up adjusted" the grade anyways
mircea_popescu: during his very brief toying with teaching, /me decided to flunk the entire, 6-group year, >100 twerps. had chat with provost, agreed to forget about the entire thing.
assbot: Pope Francis Lays Hands On Ailing U.S. Infrastructure - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1PD9Vnk )
jurov: ^ totally fell for it
mircea_popescu: !up HostFat
HostFat: I did 2 bets some weeks ago, maybe more than a month
HostFat: so, here you said that after a while, if they were rejected
HostFat: I could have them back
assbot: Logged on 05-06-2015 12:49:29; mircea_popescu: for the other thing : plox to not email bomb me ; bitbet's not keeping your bitcoin, rejected props get refunded as it gets around to it ; yeah 1 btc is prolly enough for that purpose ; if https://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/ and https://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ being paid out isn't going to convince you i guess nothing will.
mircea_popescu: link to the actual bets.
HostFat: hmm ...
assbot: BitBet - The ETH scam won't see 2016 :: 51.16 B (28%) on Yes, 134.11 B (72%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 88`056 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LbXuRI )
mircea_popescu: the date carries a url
HostFat: I'm not sure that they are available, but they are visible here
mircea_popescu: oh you mean you made propositions ?
HostFat: yes
HostFat: "Bitcoin main net block size to increase after 1 June 2016" and "Bitcoin main net block size increased on 1 June 2016"
HostFat: as I remember, they were both of 0.1 BTC
HostFat: maybe I can even find the addresses ...
mircea_popescu: ok, so what's the problem ?
HostFat: "rejected props get refunded as it gets around to it"
HostFat: what did you mean by saying this?
mircea_popescu: that within a day or two you should have hat the 0.1 or w/e it was refunded.
HostFat: eh, I think that it is passed more than a month :)
mircea_popescu: like you know, 14 weeks ago
mircea_popescu: well, what was the return address you specified ?
HostFat: I'm not sure that I've wrote it
HostFat: maybe I missed it
mircea_popescu: then how would bitbet send you refund ?
HostFat: you are right
assbot: New BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LbYrcM )
HostFat: is it under "YOUR BITCOIN ADDRESS" ?
HostFat: it's strange that I didn't put in it... I can't remember
mircea_popescu: i mean, if you look at the top bet right now on the list (24-09-2015 Rejected Namibia Vs New Zealand)
assbot: Bitcoin Address 17WY6rscZvSyzDXdKZPm5fAWzKLN2fW39h ... ( http://bit.ly/1LbYDsm )
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1LFwKt7tMTWPWn2Sf9qM6n88zNxgnxGRYo ... ( http://bit.ly/1LbYBRt )
mircea_popescu: this can be readily verified for the entire list visible there, not so much for json because well, json doesn't have the links baked in, being json
mircea_popescu: going coupla months back or so.
HostFat: so is it possible to make new bets without writing any address?
HostFat: I could even used a multisig addresses, is it compatible with your script?
mircea_popescu: well it's also possible to send bitcoins to address 1qwertyuiop etc. bitbet doesn't have a ready way to know.
mircea_popescu: but i guess a warning if the field value doesn't verify as an address may be a good idea, when kakobrekla has some time for this.
HostFat: I'm more on the idea that I didn't put anything than a wrong address
HostFat: (or a multisig address)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00073561 = 17.434 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: address is mandatory with props
HostFat: so it is sure that I've put it in
kakobrekla: Bitcoin main net block size to increase after 1 June 2016 ; in 13sbmEE4bhc7xbvpkJzxUJA4dc2U1LhMQg ; out 16SmhvkungFVsoTM1xLkm74kAoZERVvhoG
kakobrekla: Bitcoin main net block size increased on 1 June 2016 ; in 1HDwwjqntD6HdKfhiTQXJfaY6dK1fFrwJc ; out 13LvVjrzH4Vwsk6VB5dfPahkBpURRsZFVa
mircea_popescu: thanks k
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00073299 = 15.9792 BTC [-]
HostFat: now, I need to find where are these addresses :P
kakobrekla: HostFat> I could even used a multisig addresses, is it compatible with your script? < incidentally its compatible, since a few hours ago.
mircea_popescu: meh, why the fuck are we even supporting that.
kakobrekla: some derp keeps selecting 'send back to originating address' and sending from multisig
mircea_popescu: fucking bullshit.
mircea_popescu: anyway, since you're looking at it : can you change "new bet" to "new prop" in the header
mircea_popescu: and "ADD A NEW BET " to "ADD A NEW PROP" on https://bitbet.us/new/ pager
assbot: New BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LbYrcM )
mircea_popescu: it's fucking confusing.
kakobrekla: hehe k
mircea_popescu: from henceforthj they're gonna be "bets" and "props"
kakobrekla: and bets bets
mircea_popescu: lolwuty!
kakobrekla: bets have bets, no ?
mircea_popescu: props have bets
kakobrekla: but when prop is accepted it becomes a bet
kakobrekla: and it collects ... bets.
mircea_popescu: a urrite, "NEW BETS" => NEW PROPS
mircea_popescu: no, the idea is, the previous meaning of the word "Bet" as in, the page with a description and so forth, is now called prop
mircea_popescu: the individual quanta of money sent to a prop, were and remain "bets"
mircea_popescu: Active bets: 44 > active props: 44
mircea_popescu: "BROWSE BETS" => BROWSE PROPS
punkman: could change individual bets to "wagers"
mircea_popescu: yeah but it's six letters.
kakobrekla: the url is bitbet.us/bet/xxx
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla that i don't care about.
punkman: I used "Props" in the cli app :P
mircea_popescu: there's no rule that urls are metasyntactical
kakobrekla: 'add a new bet' went to 'add a new prop' now
mircea_popescu: "THE BET" can stay as it is.
mircea_popescu: no, SHOULD stay as it is. it's a proposition of a bet.
mircea_popescu: fucking english is useless, btw.
kakobrekla: are we still discussing bitbet?
mircea_popescu: all they can say is shit about money. thanks to the imbecile yet overvoiced females they got, language doesn't woirk for fucking, for gambling, for nuttin.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla https://bitbet.us/new/ << on that page.
assbot: New BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LbYrcM )
mircea_popescu: where you put the body in, the title should stay "THE BET"
kakobrekla: you mean should say the prop
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9957 @ 0.0007367 = 7.3353 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: it says the bet now.
mircea_popescu: i mean should say "THE BET", as it does now. unchanged, that bit.
kakobrekla: omg ok
kakobrekla: fucking circles
mircea_popescu: i didn't invent the broken!
mircea_popescu: in the crooked timber of the english language, no kant was ever translated.
lobbes: https://bitbet.us/bet/1203/hillary-clinton-will-be-democrats-2016-presidential-nominee/ << suprised not more 'No' votes; Sanders is causing an uproar with teh libertard community.
assbot: BitBet - Hillary Clinton will be Democrats' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 0.27 B (90%) on Yes, 0.03 B (10%) on No | closing in 6 months 2 weeks | weight: 99`068 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mve3oP )
lobbes: champion of socialism, that guy
mircea_popescu: which one is sanders again ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00073722 = 12.3116 BTC [+]
trinque: mircea_popescu: he's the derpy looking socialist from vermont
trinque: proposes we spend some umpteen trillion dollars to stimulate the whatever
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285945 << this ~almost~ beats the saudi slave collar patent for sheer lulz
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 23:24:54; punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPsb_D2WoAAse4i.jpg:large
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 22:10:45; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285737 << orin kerr is an imbecile, who the fuck taught him to read and write.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285806 << always possible that it made mistake! poor mr schmuck dies under torture, didn't know the password ? so sorry !
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 22:12:50; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285749 << and how the fuck does "the government" know the mind of man.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 22:19:35; *: mircea_popescu can only imagine that an optimizing compiler would look if written by tards born this millenium, and what mel'd think of it.
punkman: llvm wasn't written by 15 y olds
asciilifeform: may as well have been.
asciilifeform: and dollars to doughnuts, there are 15 y.o. 'contributing'.
punkman: especially if it has to do with javascript
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 23:24:54; punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPsb_D2WoAAse4i.jpg:large
assbot: Patent US8246454 - System for converting television commercials into interactive networked ... - Google Patents ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lc6c2d )
trinque: innovation!
mircea_popescu: in other news, snakes on a plane is an incredibly bad film. down there with tucker max productions and shit.
mircea_popescu: it's sad that crud like that is going to be forever associated with "the first attempt to put the internet in the #1 position for marketing a movie"
mircea_popescu: what's more sad is the fucking mosfilm level of the script. seriously, the "idealistic da" ? what the fuck, there is no even remotely ethical da in the us, nor was there, for 30+ years.
mircea_popescu: what's this bullshit 1950esque "bad guys against the angelic aparatchiks" ? where the fuck is the hollywood movie about carl force V
asciilifeform: iirc they're making one about ulbricht
mircea_popescu: what, the bulger crime family never happened, right ?
mircea_popescu: fuck that shit.
asciilifeform: and the heroic chekists who nailed him
asciilifeform: or the like.
mircea_popescu: make me one in which bharara is depicted au naturel : as a lying, evil scumbag from hell.
mircea_popescu: the cinematic vocation of 2010s is, depicting the us president as a sort of nero.
mircea_popescu: that's what you gotta do, IF you're gonna make movies.
mircea_popescu: speak truth to power and all that.
asciilifeform: almost as if the 'hollywood code' never died..
mircea_popescu: the average "criminal" being definitely more lovable, and in general more ethically respectable than the BEST of the law enforcement criminal gang.
mircea_popescu: that's the truth, that's the movie you make. or fuck you.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20504 @ 0.00073462 = 15.0626 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu wants a director now.
asciilifeform: it is interesting to note the extent to which the 'code' folks succeeded. 19th c. usa was a place where rogues, bandits, brigands of every conceivable sort - were popular heroes
mircea_popescu: hjas nothing to do with the code folks. in the 19th century, the us was a place where people earned their keep.
mircea_popescu: today, they sit in govt dole.
asciilifeform: recall how orwell pissed his panties over it?
mircea_popescu: 1970s russians believed the soviets are non-dumb. just like 2010 chinese believe the same about their idiotic leadership.
asciilifeform: 'In ROUGHING IT there is an interesting account of a bandit named Slade, who, among countless other outrages, had committed twenty-eight murders. It is perfectly clear that Mark Twain admires this disgusting scoundrel. Slade was successful; therefore he was admirable. This outlook, no less common today, is summed up in the significant American expression 'to MAKE GOOD'. '
assbot: George Orwell - Mark Twain -- The Licensed Jester - Essay ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lc707t )
mircea_popescu: i recall the part, but where do you take it ?
asciilifeform: possibly to where there isn't really a trace of this (at least afaik) left ?
mircea_popescu: does fine here.
mircea_popescu: does poorly on reddit.
mircea_popescu: look at the demographics.
asciilifeform: thinking of, e.g., the erik frein case
asciilifeform: did the locals ferry the outlaw to mexico? or even across state line ?
asciilifeform: or did they collectively bend over and lube up for usg in gratitude for removing the irritant
asciilifeform: iirc it was the latter.
mircea_popescu: certainly. still, look at the demographics.
asciilifeform: of whom ?
mircea_popescu: of the bent over crowd.
mircea_popescu: they are all, without exception, living above their means on govt supports.
mircea_popescu: for as long as taxation is negative, you don't really get much robin hood action.
asciilifeform: something doesn't quite make sense to me
asciilifeform: the taxation is at its most negative in the inner cities (ferguson et al) where the 'robin hood action' is quite lively
mircea_popescu: those aren't subjects.
mircea_popescu: inner city black man does not see himself as owned by the crown.
asciilifeform: the elephants in the zoo also do not see themselves as owned by the crown..
mircea_popescu: anyway. to reiterate : b-a needs to get a cinema production unit going. talk to me babies!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50250 @ 0.0007404 = 37.2051 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consequently the negative taxation they beenfit from does not figure in their breaking of cages.
mircea_popescu: (and you will also note that elephants in zoo may break cages/lay waste to the hay depot, but do not as a rule figure out hjow to use gps to locate the central bureau of zoos and burn the local pencildicks in charge.)
mircea_popescu: in other words : inner city blacks are subhuman, and not a proper example in this discussion.
asciilifeform: everybody else in usa, afaik, is properly defanged.
mircea_popescu: besides the point.
mircea_popescu: but you will notice that we're not merely aghast at inept fiat govertnment. we have substitute. we collect fucking taxes. heck, b-a collection is above the historical maximum for ANY fiat state known during the past century or more. well over 90%.
mircea_popescu: show me the ghetto kingdom they built themselves.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: more of a church, structurally - almost everyone has a day job, does it as a spare thing
asciilifeform: churches, or so i'm told, have pretty good 'collection rate'
mircea_popescu: exactly like a state. 19th century americans ALSO had a day job.
mircea_popescu: they didn't sit around being americans for more than an hour a month.
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, i tried to re-read dostoyevsky for my sins.
mircea_popescu: oh-my-fucking-god is this guy boring&stupid.
asciilifeform had same reaction as a young man
mircea_popescu: that fucking letter to the bum from his IDIOTIC mother about how that slut of a sister of his lied to everyone and wouldn't fuck
mircea_popescu: jesus christ i threw it away.
mircea_popescu: how did this shit pass for literature again, it has all the drawbacks of cancerous womanhood.
asciilifeform: literature of decaying cultures is a matter for pro archaeologists
mircea_popescu: nothing but nagging and an insistence of posing the likes of which isn't yet encountered on instagram!
asciilifeform: who go in for that kind of thing.
mircea_popescu: i'm supposed to admire how dounia "Can endure" ? fuck her stupid head ?
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285972 <<< any idea if he actually was an informant?
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 23:42:07; mircea_popescu: what, the bulger crime family never happened, right ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285778 << if we're doing crackpot evil inventions, i much prefer the 'drm chair'
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 21:50:04; assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 14:51:18; pete_dushenski: "Camera Restricta is a speculative design of a new kind of camera. It locates itself via GPS and searches online for photos that have been geotagged nearby. If the camera decides that too many photos have been taken at your location, it retracts the shutter and blocks the viewfinder. You can't take any more pictures here." << notbad for an 'artist' (philipp schm
mircea_popescu: cazalla prolly was, in the sense of "i'll tell you about the italians so you can tell your boss im an informant and then tell me when they wanna hit my org."
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mircea_popescu: and how come they're not working to make a woman that self-destructs after fucking.
mircea_popescu: prolly make violent rape go away.
asciilifeform: incidentally all this was, afaik, ~before~ self-destructing printer cartridges and other mundane implementations of this crud became common
mircea_popescu: let me guess punkman, thats a graph of bitcoind
punkman: possibly
punkman: cute website there too
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asciilifeform: the 'enforced obsolescence' thing is sop even in something as boring as yard tools. not long ago, i bought an electric grass-cutter thing. works great, but battery holds a charge for perhaps 10 min! vendor used to sell the 36v battery pack for ~200 usd. extortionate, in there are 3 12v lead acid cells. which are 50mm wide, precisely, and no replacement sold anywhere in the world fits in the container! they, turns out, contract
asciilifeform: ed with chinese SPECIFICALLY to make this.
asciilifeform: perhaps BingoBoingo has encountered such items, in his work.
asciilifeform: i went today to a specialist who deals in rare batteries, and he just gave me a pitying look.
mircea_popescu: https://cinetext.wordpress.com/category/soviet-film/page/2/ << if anyone's truly bored, curious about the topic of cinema and doesn't read russian.
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mircea_popescu: guy's broadly inept but decently documented.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform when i bought a grass cutter i bought one with plug. fuck me if im going to buy any battery anything.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cord is a bitch on this hilly terrain. tends to get run over.
asciilifeform: and the thing was cheap, lunch money. let go for pennies by the last fella who tried to get the battery.
mircea_popescu: i just cut in lines away from the house. cord was at no point past wherer i cut.
mircea_popescu: but i guess you'll have to hitch a car battery to it.
asciilifeform: 3 of them.
asciilifeform: 36v motor.
mircea_popescu: get a rack ?
asciilifeform: gotta appreciate the pure genius of the chumpatronics here
asciilifeform: a lead-acid cell is good for perhaps 10-20 'deep' cycles
mircea_popescu: i somehow doubt a 36 v motor is actually in there. what, this thing weighs 60 lbs ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it does.
mircea_popescu: best cut off the 36 to 12v transformer
asciilifeform: it indeed has dc 36v windings.
mircea_popescu: so it's more like a motorized woodchipper ?
asciilifeform: nearly.
asciilifeform: theoretically very spiffy for folks like me who despise this chore.
mircea_popescu: my thing was a very respectable 600W DC thing, never had a problem cutting right through thistle and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: ac i mean.
asciilifeform: i thought it was plugged into mains
mircea_popescu: anyway sharp blade counts ^2, motor power counts like ^.8 or something.
asciilifeform: aha, learned this experimentally.
mircea_popescu: cuz you didn't bother to think about it.
asciilifeform: the last owner fitted a very expensive and nice new blade
mircea_popescu: why the fuck do you think scythe grass cutters insist on skill an d sharp scythe, rather than bulging biceps.
mircea_popescu: how do you even call this in english,
mircea_popescu: haymen ?
mircea_popescu: "haymaker"
mircea_popescu: no nm, that';s more the tool. scytheman!
mircea_popescu: onbe of the foremost lost arts. there's an entire story to the job, including how to build waterproof hay piles.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess unless you make your own order for 36v batteries that's not getting fixed, who the fuck wants to charge 3 items one by one etc
asciilifeform: and guess what, even the charger was ~built in~ to the container
mircea_popescu: i suppose you could install one of those electric bike things
mircea_popescu: iirc was 36v like 30-50 Ah
asciilifeform: not a single one ever made and publicly sold, apparently, fits.
mircea_popescu: well that's for sure. but, plastic, right ?
mircea_popescu: if you're gonna make it heavier than a fuckable woman and steel and whatnot
mircea_popescu: why the fuck not put an actual engine in there ?
asciilifeform: fuck actual engine
asciilifeform: i had one of those
asciilifeform: the vibration stripped the skin off my hands every time.
mircea_popescu: exhaust ?
asciilifeform: even with gloves on.
mircea_popescu: nobody forces you to make a shitty engine!
asciilifeform: here in zimbabwestan, that's all there is.
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/a/QPjfr << uploaded for posterity.
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mircea_popescu: and it charges at 1.5 ? how long does this take, whole night ?
mircea_popescu is suddenly very appreciative of all the problems he never had.
asciilifeform: grass is a plague.
asciilifeform: if it were my lands, i would have concrete poured.
assbot: Marea afacere cu tuns iarba on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1WoaUMa )
mircea_popescu: because the fucking blog!
asciilifeform: (or alternatively some form of vegetation that doesn't need trimming)
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mircea_popescu: and turns out i was wrong, it was 1.3kw
asciilifeform: spiffy!
asciilifeform: if i ever encounter one of these sold at a street corner for twentybux i will certainly buy it..
mircea_popescu: and i even have the exact moneyary counts. 450 lei for the item, =~ 150 bucks. 90 lei for two chord extensions (40m total), 30 bucls.
asciilifeform: astonishing
mircea_popescu: i have over you the advantage that hey, corporate purchases. tax writeoff.
asciilifeform: helps that you had 220v there
mircea_popescu: so i didn't ACTUALLY pay anything on them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah grass is great. grasshoppers!
asciilifeform is not certain he ever once saw a grasshopper in this part of the globe
asciilifeform: perhaps they were once there.
mircea_popescu: one of the best parts of cutting grass in like may/june was, after you cut it, the next day or w/e, you go for a stroll
mircea_popescu: and there's this cloud of little 2mm guys jumping from where yo ustep
mircea_popescu: kickass.
mircea_popescu: and i do mean cloud, 100s in the air at any time.
asciilifeform: here we sorta have the opposite - as you cut, you liberate mosquitoes and earth wasps (or what are they called?) and they go straight for your flesh.
mircea_popescu: i never saw this.
asciilifeform: perhaps only in the dc swamps.
mircea_popescu: i did have a wasp once. i... bought it a drink.
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asciilifeform: here we have many kinds of wasp
asciilifeform: they like to burrow into the (made of almost nothing, typically) 'siding' of houses and nest in the very walls.
asciilifeform: sometimes, a room or two in !
asciilifeform: put your ear to the wall, 'bzzzzss'
asciilifeform: i bet overseas folks here think i am describing a prison planet straight from robert sheckley or the like
mircea_popescu knows some women that are wasphobic
asciilifeform: but we actually have these.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these macro shots are glorious
asciilifeform: what optic was used ?
mircea_popescu: handheld potato.
asciilifeform: very good hand, then.
mircea_popescu: supposedly i coulda been a surgeon.
mircea_popescu: but it's more to do with the fact that i understand how the fucking focus thing works and just time it in my head.
mircea_popescu: (digital cam autofocus thing is NOT able to resolve the n/p problem of "correct focus". it just tries. and fails, predictably, after missing some optimums)
asciilifeform: the 'vulvarium' link is also interesting
punkman: manual focus is a must for macro shots
mircea_popescu: apparently it isn't :)
mircea_popescu: autofocus works just fine, just gotta be sane.
mircea_popescu: (sane = not expect it to succeed, understand how it tries.)
punkman: there is nothing for autofocus to target when the subject is very close to the lens
punkman: gotta lock it, and manual focus by moving around
mircea_popescu: i suppose if you count such procedures as manual then yes.
punkman: (for some kinds of autofocus at least, like the ones that shine an IR light)
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cazalla: those fucking wasps (Vespula germanica) were everywhere last summer, i had never seen them prior to that http://i.imgur.com/vSW9cw8.jpg
cazalla: mircea_popescu, from your pics.. that's not a nest (knife), this is a nest http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-02/world-biggest-wasp-nest-found-on-a-property-in-northern-tas/6367536
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assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 16:54:13; pete_dushenski: though for some reason the ls400 was never available with the optional in-dash fax machine that was in the toyota century https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPuD2D5VEAAl19N.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPuD2DyVEAAIUpw.jpg
assbot: Marea afacere cu tuns iarba on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KVnQ8m )
mircea_popescu: "Teh romanians entertain the mistaken view that one can't die of hunger. One can. Not only can, will. A certain count of Romanians (as large as necessary) will die of hunger, in the closer or more distant future, because otherwise the populace does not seem capable to comprehend that the only reason Trompi dropped them in the world is so they work. They're not here to enjoy themselves, they're not here to be happy, the
mircea_popescu: y're not here to state their oppinions, eat doritos or drink bear. They're here to work and only work, a lot, hard and for very little money. Until they fall over."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i just read that, aha
asciilifeform: how many of hunger so far ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla this is romania. we have 100 lb women and tiny polen wasps here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not really enough.
mircea_popescu: and what the fuck is that scary shit.
mircea_popescu: monsanto should ge au wasps to build houses in new mexico.
asciilifeform: betcha this will be tried.
asciilifeform: it is almost certainly easier than getting homo redditicus to build a house !
mircea_popescu: o yeah. wasp is very disciplined.
asciilifeform: which is why 'They're here to work and only work, a lot, hard and for very little money. Until they fall over.' is hilariously optimistic. most of these people, i doubt could even be made useful at butugychag, where 'fall over' is a matter of 3 months or so
mircea_popescu: time will show&tell.
punkman: opensource to share with the neighbors https://github.com/whitepacket/ZIB-Trojan "Replace Bitcoin addresses in clipboard with yours." "Undetectable ad-fraud smart viewer" "automated system for handling [Bitcoin] payments, providing bot-net binaries, and creating bot-net IRC channels."
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asciilifeform: why otherwise would usg park them at reddit rather than in alaska.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the usg is cosubstantial.
mircea_popescu: there isn't a better stock in the us.
asciilifeform: i reversed a btc (and ltc even) wallet lifter not long ago.
asciilifeform: apparently ~someone~ still uses unenciphered wallet.dat
asciilifeform: on winblowz.
asciilifeform: and/or some fool thinks that someone still does.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's more of a "hopeful" case : what if bozo plugs in hdd not plugged in since 2010 ?
mircea_popescu: 10k btc he doesn't even know about in a old directory etc
punkman: stupid if you don't grab all wallet.dats, even encrypted ones
mircea_popescu: "it's on a pc, how encrypted can it be"
asciilifeform: funnily, i have yet to encounter a ~correctly-written~ winblowz btc trojan
asciilifeform: (i.e. one that would patch the client to immediately emit whole wallet in one fat tx to $addr upon any decryption)
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/entypus/ << i also had one of those large wasps that build their nests out of chjewed sand/clay (the prev ones were "paper wasps", build the nest out of a sort of paper made out of chewed wood) and fill them with spiders they caught and paralyzed, with added egg.
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mircea_popescu: but the whole thing was the size of a thumb
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that whole wallet tx would fail.
asciilifeform: depends
asciilifeform: but at least it could send the pw+wallet off to sp4mz0rland, vs merely walled.dat
mircea_popescu: (Vespa crabro)
asciilifeform: *wallet
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asciilifeform: i suppose if ms visualbasic can be a favourite among these people, why not python.
asciilifeform: why not distribute a whole os with the thing!
asciilifeform: (oh wait, they do. winblowz)
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mircea_popescu: that "oh, they were fired via email ? did they check make sure it's not fake ?" thing still has me lolling.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-09-2015#1286209 << there still ~are~, for the time being, the folks born in the 1930s-40s.
assbot: Logged on 26-09-2015 00:55:56; mircea_popescu: there isn't a better stock in the us.
asciilifeform: they actually run (what remains of) the living tissue of the place.
mircea_popescu is skeptical. and will continue to be so, because time ticks behind him. in a decade i'll pretend that not only am i right now, but was right all along : no better stock in that place.
asciilifeform: l0l this sorta worked in su.
asciilifeform: but it is not entirely a useless observation because it explains why the 'lights stayed on as long as they did'
asciilifeform: now, when these people are gone - THEN yes, zimbabwe.
asciilifeform: full bore.
mircea_popescu: an exercise not unlike explaining why "the green stays left in the mandelbrot set for as long as it does"
mircea_popescu: you might find that most of the windows with lights in them are painted cardboard in the shape of a window with a light in it.
mircea_popescu: the us got a random guy from kenya to pretend like he's a law professor ; anhd some random derp from pakistan to pretend he's a district attorney.
mircea_popescu: who's fooled ? was rice a secretary of state ? was fiorina a ceo ?
mircea_popescu: no lights.
asciilifeform: laugh but this is not entirely fiction. i discovered recently that it is customary where i live for the city to continue to cut the grass in the yards of empty houses
asciilifeform: (to ward off squatters, presumably)
mircea_popescu: well, to maintain the pretense
mircea_popescu: "it's a city! honest!"
asciilifeform: for their part, the squatters are fooled. the buildings, stay empty.
asciilifeform: pretty basic chumpatronics, i think. why spend more effort than is required to fool the mark ?
asciilifeform: most of usa likely ~does~ think fiorina was ceo, or obama - law professor
asciilifeform: or rather, lacks the referents for these words that would let them say 'no'
mircea_popescu: except man is not the measure of all things.
asciilifeform: !s gods of copybook headings
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asciilifeform: them, also, yes.
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 04:10:54; asciilifeform: 'In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
mircea_popescu: (btw, it is also customary for banks to continue servicing abandoned bank accounts. for the same reasons as the grass cuttings - they figure they got a claim to A THING and sooner or later will make good on it. with interest.)
asciilifeform: oh but no, they don't try to maintain the ~inside~
asciilifeform: it normally does not last very long, and the thing drops to below-value-of-land (buyer must pay for demolition)
asciilifeform: instead, just appearances.
asciilifeform: an empty house, from usg's standpoint, still does 90% of its job - keeping 'property values!111!!111!!1' sky-high.
asciilifeform: by not being sold 'under' price.
mircea_popescu: im sure they're trying to stuff the bill into SOMETHING. an acquisition of some sort, vc capital somewhere, a credit card balance movement to a larger credit card. it hasta.
asciilifeform: commercial buildings, where i live, have been known to rot for years, even a decade, before finally being demolished and replaces with condos that NOBODY BUYS
asciilifeform: but to the folks who ordered this, they still 'work', yes
asciilifeform: nobody needs to live in it, for it to 'work'.
asciilifeform: just keep prices at 400-500K for the remaining chumpers
asciilifeform: it does it just as well by being empty and decaying.
asciilifeform: (so long as this is not immediately obvious to passers-by)
asciilifeform: you can drive around and see this, towers of 'condos' with one or two windows out of every dozen, lit up
asciilifeform: (often these, on close examination, are stairwells, no one lives there)
mircea_popescu: well sure, for as long as a usg-pretense exists to keep bankrolling everyone's pretense, everyone's gonna keep on pretending.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the physical manifestations of this bezzle are surprisingly public and visible
asciilifeform: perhaps these, too, will 'go the way of the snake's legs' eventually
asciilifeform: like the physical fighter jets did
mircea_popescu: afaik they still pretend re the jets.
asciilifeform: a handful of machines after $trillion is not much of a presence
mircea_popescu: the amplitude of pretense is to be measured at the muzzle of the pretender, tho.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/de-ce/ << for the amateur trilema translator in attendance.
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mircea_popescu: quote of interest, "The Dust Bowl was no accident of nature. A functioning grassland prairie produces more biomass each year than does even the most technologically advanced wheat field. The problem is, it's mostly a form of grass and grass roots that humans can't eat. So we replace the prairie with our own preferred grass, wheat. Never mind that we feed most of our grain to livestock, and that livestock is perfectly c
mircea_popescu: ontent to eat native grass. And never mind that there likely were more bison produced naturally on the Great Plains before farming than all of beef farming raises in the same area today."
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PeterL: So I have to use Winblows at work. The most annoying thing is the tendency of programs to steal focus at wierd times. Like, I start a program, see it is going to take a minute to load, switch to my other program and sign in, but wait the first stole the focus and now my password is sitting there in plaintext. Bleh.
danielpbarron: i too must use a winbl0ws machine at work, and the password is on a post-it note stuck to the monitor, as is usually the custom with machines of this nature
asciilifeform: when i worked in usg, they had xp boxes, yes. i simply requisitioned 'vmware' and cooked up a gentoo vm.
asciilifeform: worked in that.
asciilifeform: (after a miserable 6 months or so in 'cygwin', where i even built x11 and the whole rest of shebang)
danielpbarron: in my case, the thing is only used for UPS worldship, which apparently can only run on microshit
asciilifeform: it was hilarious, stooges would actually be sent around every now and then to make sure that everything that was connected into the Official net ~was~ a winblowz box!
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