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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7283 @ 0.00030669 = 2.2336 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up jayk
mircea_popescu: dude, as soon as ben_vulpes split party died
BingoBoingo: Really?
mircea_popescu: williamdunne how do you mean ? it's only defined as #mask_head_ie{position:relative; for ie, are you on ie and they changed how they break css meanwhile ?
williamdunne: I'm getting it on firefox, I'll try testing it again
williamdunne: Interesting, can't replicate the issue
mircea_popescu hasn't changed anything
mircea_popescu: maybe you got a bad (partial) page load ?
williamdunne: Yeah I have no clue what happened there
williamdunne: Possible
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how do you get home so quickly/!
ben_vulpes: i might not be able to hail a cab, but i can goose partybutt into action
ben_vulpes: now its time to audit bills
ben_vulpes: SMALLBIZLYFE
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: I haven't been able to reproduce on my version of FireFox
ben_vulpes: just call it derpcorp
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-04-2015#1102783 << you don;'t understand how braindamage works.
assbot: Logged on 16-04-2015 20:48:37; williamdunne: Which derp is responsible for marketing at Quadriga CX, and why are they wasting money advertising their Canadian exchange to someone in the UK.
mircea_popescu: but maybe they buy a nascar stadium. it'll be good for bitcoin (fm)
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: And I hope I never do
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00030775 = 2.0619 BTC [+]
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: Yeah, seems issue was my side because even I can't replicate it now
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: The Trilema CSS has been by MP's declaration constant for years nao. Maybe your Firecox updated to solve the regression?
assbot: Logged on 16-04-2015 23:17:05; ascii_c3: because it wasn't me...
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i thought you were aware of this!
mircea_popescu: was not no.
mircea_popescu: i saw teh mitm parts
ben_vulpes: next time i will be more explicit
BingoBoingo: !s disney
assbot: 92 results for 'disney' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=disney
ben_vulpes: but directly related to box relocation desire
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 01:04:33; williamdunne: danielpbarron: Is that being worked on?
williamdunne: Impressive how much is being worked on
williamdunne: !s s.limbs
assbot: 20 results for 's.limbs' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=s.limbs
assbot: Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CUH7hG )
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 02:26:29; sickboy: I trade swaps at finex and arb futures on icbit and okcoin and make options markets on 796
williamdunne: !s S.MNKY
assbot: 9 results for 'S.MNKY' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=S.MNKY
BingoBoingo likes how itBet with FDIC on board only changed one letter from icBit bukkit shop
mircea_popescu: it's called mining.
ben_vulpes: dude mircea_popescu i just overflowed the calculator on this pnhoe
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: for brown gold?
mircea_popescu: williamdunne i think they call them buttcoins
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: 10/10 you beat me fair and square
BingoBoingo: ;;google they really are buttcoins nao
gribble: They really are Buttcoins nao on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao>; what is in the mind of r/buttcoin? - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=727776.0>; NEXT: 26-07-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014>
BingoBoingo: ^ williamdunne
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu.. is.. is that your hairy asscrack on my screen?
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: The world may never know
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: The big question is the spots on the mirror. Jizz or toothpaste.
williamdunne: Oh hang on, its not. Its a talker just re-read the mpoe-pr
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_on_tour
BingoBoingo: Hello Mr. unreliabru narrator
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: Yeah thats pretty gross
ascii_on_tour: danke BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: williamdunne some dude called himself klye iirc.
ben_vulpes: it is the verboten handle!
ascii_on_tour: mega-expedition here
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Gotta appreciate the dedication
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 03:11:16; jayk: yeah ive noticed lots of company have taken a hit over the last 12 months
ben_vulpes: ascii_orc: did you reabsorb all the water you lost today?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Earlier than klye, for the buttcointalk thread up "Jordan"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo o ? i thought it was him.
ben_vulpes: ascii_orc: aha now that's clever
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Klye also made Buttcoin but later and for far less
BingoBoingo: The Jordan dude was a one and done
ascii_on_tour: false alarm
ascii_on_tour: bad config on this piece of jetsam
ascii_on_tour: overdue for scrapyard
ben_vulpes: apocrypha
ascii_on_tour: naturally
BingoBoingo: ascii_on_tour: Anyone local check to make sure you aren't imposter in latex mask?
ascii_on_tour: though good live fire test for the whole concept
ascii_on_tour: what said unsigned - apocrypha always
ben_vulpes: ya well talk to me when you find your keys again
ben_vulpes: IMPOSTOR
ascii_on_tour: ergo if i give the launch codes now - take a minute to think
ascii_on_tour: before launching.
ascii_on_tour: said the shannonizer.
BingoBoingo: Attack plan R?
ascii_on_tour: variant xy
BingoBoingo: CRM-114?
ben_vulpes: green team you are not cleared for operation tango in my butt
BingoBoingo: Paging Herr Doktor Merkwürdigliebe
ascii_on_tour is finding mars unexpectedly wet
ben_vulpes: ah it can't go on for very long
ben_vulpes: clouds don't really have a lot of water in them
ascii_on_tour: ben_vulpes: i did figure out how to work the cabs
ascii_on_tour: have to catch it - physically.
ben_vulpes: some orc
ascii_on_tour: like animal
ben_vulpes: i was planning to actually jump in front of the next one too, aha
ascii_on_tour: this is probably sop per local orcraft
ben_vulpes: brainorcage
ascii_on_tour: no i just grabbed hold of the door handle when it went
ascii_on_tour: opened.
ben_vulpes: "oh, door is open? guess should stahp"
BingoBoingo: Such informative research
ben_vulpes: my cabbie: "hay mucho lluvia!"
ascii_on_tour: fella inside had a picture he studied at every light; 'wanted' photo of a car
BingoBoingo: Is "black car" a mode of transport in hardware #b-a?
ascii_on_tour: several angles of photo plus license plate
ben_vulpes: me: (no shit, idiot) "si, si. hotel redacto, por favor?"
ascii_on_tour: BingoBoingo: black car ?
BingoBoingo: ascii_on_tour: Like taxi, but only on hire in advance basis
ascii_on_tour: BingoBoingo: limousine ?
ascii_on_tour: no idea.
BingoBoingo: ascii_on_tour: Limousine or similar premise, but shorter
ascii_on_tour: i only even took cab because happily waltzed into opposite compass direction from what was given
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ah i seem to vaguely reclal this
ascii_on_tour: because thought was walking on moebius strip or the like.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_on_tour> false alarm << heh.
ascii_on_tour: 'burned on hot - will blow on cold' (™) (R)
mircea_popescu: <ascii_on_tour> ergo if i give the launch codes now - take a minute to think << you don't understand how launching works.
ascii_on_tour: 'ours is not to question why, ours is but to do and die' (tm)
ascii_on_tour: btw mitm is real
ascii_on_tour: still there as far as i can tell.
ascii_on_tour: ssh over whatever port.
mircea_popescu: im sure it's for your own safetit.
ascii_on_tour: l0lziez
mircea_popescu: !up liquidassets
mircea_popescu: ascii_on_tour so what is this zblatnik thing then ?
liquidassets: thanks mp you're the man
mircea_popescu: i dunno, it's in the email you sent me ?
mircea_popescu: you didn't send me an email just now ?
mircea_popescu: o wow. it must be that i'm fucking with you then :D
ascii_on_tour suspected
ascii_on_tour: because 'z'
mircea_popescu: liquidassets who're you ?
ascii_on_tour: what are we now, czechs?
mircea_popescu: ascii_on_tour sound zlegit.
ben_vulpes: zamassl
liquidassets: not even my real nick, if I had one, been reading logs for awhile now, been here a few times before
liquidassets: can't get the hang of gpg...more reading
mircea_popescu: "this is not even my REAL pseudonym"
ben_vulpes: liquidassets: wtf is a real nick?
mircea_popescu: toolate.gif
ascii_on_tour: 'was shakespeare written by shakespeare, or other man of that name' (™) (R)
BingoBoingo: liquidassets: GPG can be leanred with concentration.
liquidassets: the one I originally wanted to use before I lost my password, or stopped working, or got ddosed...
ben_vulpes: next up: mircea_popescu firsting
mircea_popescu: ascii_on_tour believe it or not academic careers arew built on this
liquidassets: on and on...
mircea_popescu: like they are on every other meaningless (and so thereforee unverifiable) distinction
ascii_on_tour knew, even knew of the gzip paper
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00030608 = 2.9996 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_on_tour: (the one where gzip is demonstrated as mega-authorship-authenticator instrument)
ascii_on_tour: we had this stove.
BingoBoingo wonders if MPEx would be interested in Onion futures if I manage to escape wire, simply because US demands Onions not have futures
ascii_on_tour: mega-chick also, in the photo
ben_vulpes: mega what how?
ascii_on_tour: ben_vulpes: 'money oven' photo, linked
ben_vulpes: oh i understand but in what way mega babe?
ascii_on_tour: in painting by imagination.
assbot: OH: “If you are the crazy shotgun guy and people want to test you then you just arent crazy enough."
ascii_on_tour: !s fucksaw
assbot: 0 results for 'fucksaw' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fucksaw
ben_vulpes: ascii_on_tour: how explain IP?
ben_vulpes: also how explain no results for fucksaw
ascii_on_tour: connected to access point across the street
ascii_on_tour: 'linksys;
ascii_on_tour: try yourself
mircea_popescu: ascii_on_tour everyone had that stove.
ascii_on_tour: mircea_popescu: ever orc north of equator
mircea_popescu: no, this is a vienna thing.
mircea_popescu: hence the "vienese smokes" specification for them
mircea_popescu: viense smoke = best smoke.
liquidassets: can anyone tell me if this VPN is something I don't want to use? I found this green gorilla thing next to the freenode login from #b-a's main page. Thought it was the cloak I was looking for. Don't believe it is as it's made logging into Thunderbird and Craigslist impossible without turning it off
assbot: ButterNubber comments on New York Update: Former NYSE CEO to TeraExchange Former FDIC Chair to itBit ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2LsXH )
ascii_on_tour: liquidassets: run moar winblows
mircea_popescu: "all of our servers are busy right now
mircea_popescu: please try again in a minute"
mircea_popescu: plox stop linking reddit, we're slashdotting them.
ascii_on_tour: poor bugg3rz
liquidassets: on a mac...
BingoBoingo: liquidassets: stick pogoplug in library with wifi, use as VPN entry point
liquidassets: can I get one soon??
ascii_on_tour: liquidassets: what would you bring through american airport? a vax ?
liquidassets: pogoplug I thought no such bought them all
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But it's the big exposure of Qntra's follow up to BitPay 9 layoff forbes is trying to steal
ascii_on_tour: liquidassets: l0l aha they are here.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo doh.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo they just "found it on the internet".
liquidassets: did you opt for pat down ascii?
BingoBoingo: I mean it i only the second big time insiders decided to leak qntra first, because qntra respects leaks
ascii_on_tour: liquidassets: opted for default
ascii_on_tour: which appears to consist of 'hurry the fuck up, we don't care what's in the crate'
ascii_on_tour: seriously, mega-ass-inspection-fail
ben_vulpes: bienvenidos a argentina
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_on_tour
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_on_tour continue unreliable narratodor
ben_vulpes: donde nadie dale las mierdas
ascii_orc: ben_vulpes et al will ask my meatbag the next day, aha
ascii_orc: ' —Y mientras tanto qué comemos —preguntó, y agarró al coronel por el cuello de la franela. Lo sacudió con energía—. Dime, qué comemos. El coronel necesitó setenta y cinco años —los setenta y cinco años de su vida, minuto a minuto— para llegar a ese instante. Se sintió puro, explícito, invencible, en el momento de responder. — Mierda.' (TM)
assbot: Biggest news today in the /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash space by a mile. itBit landed none other then Sheila Blaire for their board! http://t.co/fn5VA2XdFx
ascii_orc: BingoBoingo: you oughta have come here.
ascii_orc: 'I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate.' (TM)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16329 @ 0.0003065 = 5.0048 BTC [+] {3}
ascii_orc: http://trilema.com/2015/random-weird-shit-2/ << obligatory su lul: '— one day, shell landed in a trench. all the men went up. at the end of the day, we turned up an arse and a set of limbs, no head, no torso. — what did you do? — if the head had turned up, it could be a man again. but naturally - it is top brass now. what else.'
assbot: Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2OvPm )
BingoBoingo: ascii_orc: But how is the steak?
ascii_orc: almost alive.
ascii_orc: could almost 'moo' in mouth.
BingoBoingo: Beautiful
BingoBoingo: Next month should be an inflection point that ends god awful multi-year misdemeanor proceedings
assbot: Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1aCrTr1 )
ascii_orc to bed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00030369 = 1.2299 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market buttstamp
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 224.73, Best ask: 225.26, Bid-ask spread: 0.53000, Last trade: 224.83, 24 hour volume: 10271.83165616, 24 hour low: 223.5, 24 hour high: 229.67, 24 hour vwap: 227.079143186
Chillum: mircea_popescu: You expressed on interest in my super simple war walking device I am working on. I have made PCB design and ordered 4 prototype boards(only $20): http://images.highinbc.com.s3.amazonaws.com/TinyWar_PCB.png - The circuit basically bridges an ESP8266 ESP-01, a RYN25AI, and 2 AA batteries. The rest is software
Chillum: Looks like it can be built for $26-30 worth of parts, less if made in bulk
Chillum: J1,J2 and J3 are just headers for the prototype of if I sell them I will go surface mount
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 352461 | Current Difficulty: 4.944639068824144E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 352799 | Next Difficulty In: 338 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 15 hours, 22 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47768661760.3 | Estimated Percent Change: -3.39303
Chillum: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 225.77, Best ask: 225.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 225.86, 24 hour volume: 20324.16463538, 24 hour low: 224.55, 24 hour high: 230.0, 24 hour vwap: None
BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Quick question
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Can you answer?
felipelalli: Hi BingoBoingo! Sure.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00030775 = 7.863 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: What virtues would Brazil have to offer a person expatriating the United States of Lulz?
felipelalli: What do you mean with "of Lulz"?
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Well, all those ways the US sucks that we don't talk about. Like way too many people I went to school with living in tri-generational homes.
BingoBoingo: Like people do in the poorest parts of Asia
BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: are you from U.S.? Do you intends to do as Roger Ver did? Something like that?
BingoBoingo: Not as Roger Ver did. If I manage to leave alive I intend to do it with both middle fingers out of a cheap Saturn sedan.
BingoBoingo: I wonder mostly... where do I park the Saturn
felipelalli: ahahha :)
BingoBoingo: I'm wondering if Brazil has compelling places and characteristics that justify getting Portugese
BingoBoingo: !up asciilifeform
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The few salaried Gawler folk get scared http://gawker.com/why-weve-decided-to-organize-1698246231
assbot: Why We've Decided to Organize  ... ( http://bit.ly/1JOYbvu )
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: well, the Brazil is a very complicated country. We have like 60~70% of taxes, but our government is very corrupt and inefficient. So, the people try to avoid to pay taxes, but some taxes are impossible to avoid. As a reference, you can buy a new March (small car of Nissan) 1.6 here for US$ 13,000.00 and you can't import your old Saturn. Used car import is prohibited. Also, a negative point is the huge urban violence.
felipelalli: And you can't defend your self because personal weapon is very tackled, both culturally and the by the government.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: But with money you can live well here. I like the State of São Paulo, where I live, and I like my city Campinas. There are nice cities around here, like Sorocaba or Águas de São Pedro.
BingoBoingo: Corrupt and inefficient is good, but somewhere between Laredo nd Nuevo Laredo I would indeed like to acquire a 1911
felipelalli: despite all the problems, precisely because it is inefficient and corrupt, I feel more free here than I feel in U.S. (where I went sometimes) or in Australia (where I lived for one year)
felipelalli: I fell more free in relation of the government pressure, but not about the urban violence.
felipelalli: in Australia I was used to walk at dawn, and here it is dangerous.
felipelalli: I was assaulted at least 4 times in my life. Last time it was in 2008 I guess.
funkenstein_: i had a dream about the south american map night before last
funkenstein_: the countries were stretched like thin strips like they were all chile
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: I have two friends from U.S. living here. Well, at least one. One of them I think already went back to U.S.
trinque: funkenstein_: can't carry a knife? if not a gun?
trinque: * felipelalli ^
funkenstein_: brazil had a really fat part in the south out in front of b.a.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: I can introduce them to you and you can ask them.
funkenstein_: and i had to identify them on the map using a javascript phrase like js.equalsVerify("brazil")
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: I have time, now might not be the right one yet
felipelalli: trinque: you can carry a knife, it is ok!
felipelalli: trinque: you can carry also a gun, because the police is almost absent. But you run the risk of being arrested. And you do not want to be arrested here!!
felipelalli: funkenstein_: lol
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: sure! But if you want I can introduce these two friends to you! One of them didn't like Brazil too much, I guess he already went back to U.S. The other one loves the beach here, but he complain about the insecurity, his house was robbed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17008 @ 0.00030312 = 5.1555 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8075 @ 0.00030108 = 2.4312 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: I'll wait for introductions until I'm out
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Maybe you've been missing the news, but US police don't arrest armed persons very much anymore.
BingoBoingo: They do indeed do something, but that something is far from arrest...
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: it is a good news, isn't it? I know in U.S. you can carry a gun. I was saying here in Brazil. Here you can because the police almost doest not exist, but if you are caught, you'll be arrested.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: What I mean by "far from arrest" in the US context is that rather than handcuffing a person the prefer to handcuff cadavears
BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: auehaueauu that's news for me!
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: I thought it was guaranteed by the constitution.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: I'll send you an email with their contacts.
BingoBoingo: Oh, shooting moving targets is the US police greatest pastime
felipelalli: auehaueauhea
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.0002988 = 1.7032 BTC [-]
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: maybe this video can summarize the Brazilian spirit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PjrTOjxjxk
assbot: HUAHUEHUAHUE BR BR (Animated Version) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1b98PSn )
BingoBoingo: The tldr; situation on Gawker is Denton paid HamNo for too long and now he is focusing all his "pro-labor" effort on unionizing Gawker's editorial staff. No mention that editorial means management and as a rule management doesn't unionize.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Not very big on summaries here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26386 @ 0.0002983 = 7.8709 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00030398 = 3.9213 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Indecent Exposure, or the FetLife Security Hole ... ( http://bit.ly/1CSBC4n )
mircea_popescu: wtf is kinja
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14334 @ 0.00030775 = 4.4113 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: btw danielpbarron : see if https://twitter.com/fnxTX feels like coming by here sometime ?
assbot: JJ 「ᶜᶦᵗᶦᶻᵉᶯᶠᶦᵛᵉ」 (@fnxTX) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1CSBDVR )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Kinja is blogger, but offered by Gawker instead of Google
BingoBoingo: For the drinkingrecord blog I've had a title to write in que on why kinja is a shit proposition for the individual blogger, but... time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17951 @ 0.00030775 = 5.5244 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: seems kinda obscure anyway
BingoBoingo: It is, why it fell on the backburner. They've pushed it, but their "values" make things such that the potential audience who could use it is too small.
BingoBoingo: OH, and since I can't be there, announcement for con 3. Since last con I have abused derp sportsbooks and CoinBase Inc. to taint no less than 750 BTC with my stench.
mircea_popescu: whassat ?
BingoBoingo: Oh, I've been gambling on shady books which keep their public wallet addresses big and directly depositing to CoinBase. Contributing to the death of the idea of taint.
BingoBoingo: Been mixing coins definitely mine by legacy addresses with big wallets and going straight from the big wallets to CoinBase, because fuck it.
BingoBoingo: Working with minimal budget I've been cross taiting a number of coins across groups who I know don't want it.
BingoBoingo: (outside of #b-a sphere)
funkenstein_: why would anyone care? unspent outputs are unspent outputs, something else going to an address is just another unspent output.
funkenstein_: not like I ever have to touch dust you send to an address I control
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-04-2015#1103255 <<< where abouts in australia did ya stay?
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 07:26:01; felipelalli: despite all the problems, precisely because it is inefficient and corrupt, I feel more free here than I feel in U.S. (where I went sometimes) or in Australia (where I lived for one year)
cazalla: !up felipelalli
felipelalli: cazalla: Brisbane, Queensland.
cazalla: oh really? queensland is like most racist state in all the lands
felipelalli: cazalla: really? I didn't realize that.
cazalla: might've been qld cops that killed a brazillian for simply running away
felipelalli: cazalla: ah! yeah. that was I said.
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assbot: Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1yAw9Tq )
felipelalli: cazalla: I said I didn't feel free there in relation to the police/state, only that I could walk at night on street.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, aaaaaaaaaannnnnd not a single one from melbourne, australia
felipelalli: cazalla: I remember well this case.
cazalla: felipelalli, it caught a lot of attention in the media here, not sure abroad (although when indian students get bashed/murdered, indian media goes bananas)
mircea_popescu: cazalla imagine that.
felipelalli: cazalla: also here. But you have no idea how much people are killed by police here. If they'd create a new entry on Wikipedia about all cases the Wikipedia would run out of space!! ahhaha
mircea_popescu: some from queensland...
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: how did you make this list?
assbot: Fetlife, the meat market on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1yAxjhL )
funkenstein_: i have an idea, lets give a bunch of idiots uniforms and guns and see what happens
mircea_popescu: During the inquest, the cause of death was also not determined. Various causes of death were, however, specifically ruled out. These were:
mircea_popescu: i. The tasering, either in drive stun or probe mode Experts determined that there was insufficient electricity to have caused a heart rhythm disruption in drive stun mode, nor were any pair of probes positioned either side of the heart (as was the case in scholarly articles in which it has been suggested that Taser may have caused ventricular fibrillation)
mircea_popescu: dude check that out. how do the tasers work, by invoking manna from heaven ?
cazalla: http://i.imgur.com/rKg0J0M.jpg <<< garza's wife again
mircea_popescu: is that a handcarved pole behind her, in between those corner windows ?
mircea_popescu: i seem to remember very similar windows...
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: The point is the FBI and Treasury department showed up at my front door. I know full well I am watched. Vehicles park in my neighborhood without known possession. If they will deny me life as such then I will be Xoas, the gap.
BingoBoingo: If I must be minded, why not be the gap?
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 05:35:33; ascii_orc: could almost 'moo' in mouth.
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 06:44:55; Chillum: mircea_popescu: You expressed on interest in my super simple war walking device I am working on. I have made PCB design and ordered 4 prototype boards(only $20): http://images.highinbc.com.s3.amazonaws.com/TinyWar_PCB.png - The circuit basically bridges an ESP8266 ESP-01, a RYN25AI, and 2 AA batteries. The rest is software
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-04-2015#1103247 << imo brazil is headed straight for mexico fail mode.
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 07:18:49; BingoBoingo: I'm wondering if Brazil has compelling places and characteristics that justify getting Portugese
mircea_popescu: this is not recoverable.
BingoBoingo: If already man, why not myth and legend?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Been my present Brazil objection
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the gawker shit kicks ass.
mircea_popescu: and whether ben_vulpes objects or not, i can only see it in terms of "qntra model ruined gawker, because bitcoin is the world eater"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I's seriously qntra it up now if wasn't contemplating legend atm
mircea_popescu: "as journalism has moved online and flourished over the past 20 years" "good times (which our company enjoys now), and even more in bad times (which will inevitably come)"
mircea_popescu: hahaha. if the past 20 years is flourishing, and the current "we don't pay you anything, write for free" thing is good times...
mircea_popescu: but he's right : worse times are coming.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: it is also easy to extract all photos from the site, like this one: https://fetlife.com/users/70387/pictures/978791
assbot: Login - FetLife ... ( http://bit.ly/1yAzhP7 )
mircea_popescu: "Nobody is seeking to hurt this company, or plunder it for all it's worth, or find a way to attack the people that run it. We're just trying to make it a bit more functional, and a bit more fair."
mircea_popescu: tl;dr : gawker is sinking, people desperate, fighting over carcass begun.
mircea_popescu: it had to happen, after all.
felipelalli: lol! they have a "accept of terms" when you create the account something like "please keep it anonymous".
mircea_popescu: everyone trying to foist the actual doing of their actual job on everyone else, it's a thing
mircea_popescu: called "welfare state"
funkenstein_: Bingobongo, Xoas?
funkenstein_: <mircea_popescu> tl;dr : gawker is sinking, people desperate, fighting over carcass begun. <-- and so it begins
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Greek, English alphabet Chaos
BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
funkenstein_: thank you
funkenstein_: re: mind the gap, i am moving out of fiat mordor in a few days
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Historically the term means something very different than in 20th century English
BingoBoingo wonders how many USG stooges will be billed to read Heraclitus nao
funkenstein_: "abyss, that which gapes wide open, is vast and empty,"
funkenstein_: the ocean of the undescriptable
funkenstein_: nyarlathotep
funkenstein_: mind the gap indeed eh?
BingoBoingo: Indeed
BingoBoingo: Unaddressed movie consequences "Man of Steel" (2013), everyone has arthritis nao
punkman: g'day asseteers
funkenstein_: g'day punkman
assbot: Des séismes sans précédent historique sont possibles en Europe ... ( http://bit.ly/1yABZV2 )
punkman: pretty good shake last night
punkman: maybe Χαος is feeling frisky
BingoBoingo: But yes, since the Feds showed up at my door I have done my best to be a complete dick who either controls hundreds of dollars of BTC or hundreds of thousands (maybe millions, I'm an ass like that)
funkenstein_ sends greetings to all at the b-a mtg in b-a, sends energy to ensure it will b-a success
mircea_popescu: cool deal.
mircea_popescu: punkman what if crete goes to look for atlantida ?
punkman: argentina looks like a good place to be considering tectonics
punkman: or maybe australia
BingoBoingo: punkman: Techtonically atlantic coasts, generally much safer
assbot: Federal Agents Who Persecuted Ulbricht Arrested | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1yACoGT )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8827 @ 0.00030459 = 2.6886 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo errs on the side of underestimating the worth of his meat to USG
punkman: mircea_popescu: last big one pushed western part of the island about 10 meters upwards. so more likely to rise than sink.
assbot: HashTalk - Ideas, Talk, and Hardware - Bitcoin & Scrypt Mining ... ( http://bit.ly/1yAEEhr )
punkman: hah, win "Calling the employers of developers, that are giving their free time to paycoin, to get them fired? Calling and texting the parents of developers to tell them their child is part of scam?"
mircea_popescu: punkman the titanic rose before it sunk.
mircea_popescu: well... they ARE part of a scam.
punkman: and they aren't even getting paid...
mircea_popescu: typical idiocy, that.
mircea_popescu: gawker doing exactly the same posturing
mircea_popescu: "for the future".
punkman: cazalla, are there more pics?
mircea_popescu: the theory being that i am somehow obliged to BELIEVE their pretense, and pay them accordingly. which is why all teh anger when i go "orly, gawker ?"
cazalla: i can't imagine his wife is that upset, had what.. 3 kids and still has a rockin' body
mircea_popescu: cazalla yah, nothing to be ashamed of there.
cazalla: punkman, bitcointalk thread references some others but seems deleted or something
mircea_popescu: "Have I made mistakes? Yes. Have I owned them? Yes And am I still trying to "
mircea_popescu: he should be on fetlife.
fluffypony: "What's more is they laugh about people loosing money."
fluffypony: loosing money?
fluffypony: the money! she is loose!
mircea_popescu: "my wife is loosin' money!"
mircea_popescu: garza, delousing money. since 2013
mircea_popescu: "your honor... this money was very lossy to begin with!"
fluffypony: "I should've used TIFF, but I chose JPEG"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4711 @ 0.00029743 = 1.4012 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: lol, unlike Garza to taint hundreds to thousands of BTC with my stink I required no scam
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: For the qntra can you get lots of pictures of groups of the pale devils at BTCAfrica?
cazalla: BingoBoingo, drinking?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Yup
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: I will
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Cool
cazalla: tempted to keep my beers until tmw night
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Big reveal was planned sober though. Many non-Wotty outfits handle too much money and could use some WoT stink anyways
cazalla: well your stash must tend towards the millions if this taint is widespread :P
BingoBoingo: cazalla: You don't understand how fundamentally these services are broken. You can withdraw Bitcents from addresses with hundreds of BTC
BingoBoingo: !up mogreen How's your eye?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.0002942 = 3.7069 BTC [-] {2}
mogreen: BingoBoingo: My eye? Why would you be asking about my eye?
BingoBoingo: mogreen: Haven't you seen the movie?
mogreen: BingoBoingo: nope
BingoBoingo: mogreen: Oh, if I'm talking through a time warp watch out for the massage table and the big wop with the flowerbox.
mogreen: BingoBoingo: noted, thx
BingoBoingo: So how's vegas?
mogreen: BingoBoingo: still in my future I guess
mogreen: BingoBoingo: I presently have no plans to visit vegas
BingoBoingo: I have no sensible explanation for your irc nick then mogreen
mogreen: BingoBoingo: even ppl who don't go to vegas need mo' green!
BingoBoingo: Oh, boring weed reference
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43500 @ 0.00028851 = 12.5502 BTC [-] {3}
funkenstein_: i thought you were talking about the candlestick charts usd/btc
funkenstein_: namecoin has been quite volatile for a couple days
funkenstein_: which is my clumsy segue for asking a question
funkenstein_: what do you think about putting gpg fingerprint in namecoin database
funkenstein_: instead of e.t. "mit server"
funkenstein_: *e.g.
funkenstein_: or even full pubkey
funkenstein_: in name value pair like "/k funkenstein","<pubkey>"
funkenstein_: or some such?
funkenstein_: !up felipelalli
cazalla: !up felipelalli
funkenstein_: seems like a good idea to me but nobody uses it as far as i can tell
funkenstein_: http://wiki.namecoin.info/index.php?title=Identity#GPG
assbot: Identity - Namecoin Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1Heo1t0 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11911 @ 0.0002999 = 3.5721 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27828 @ 0.00030545 = 8.5001 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31762 @ 0.00030775 = 9.7748 BTC [+]
funkenstein_: http://thedailywtf.com/articles/nothing-refreshes-like-lorem-ipsum
assbot: Nothing Refreshes like Lorem Ipsum - The Daily WTF ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPznn1 )
funkenstein_: !up CheckDavid
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83600 @ 0.00029343 = 24.5307 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13367 @ 0.00030775 = 4.1137 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40400 @ 0.00030775 = 12.4331 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00030775 = 2.3235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46400 @ 0.00030775 = 14.2796 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81800 @ 0.0002833 = 23.1739 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81500 @ 0.00028554 = 23.2715 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70655 @ 0.00029359 = 20.7436 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14245 @ 0.00030284 = 4.314 BTC [+]
mats: good morning
mats: Bloomberg down, finance workers shit themselves
ben_vulpes: achtung pumperos!
ben_vulpes: to the showers and thence the lobby!
ben_vulpes: y despues, desayuno?
mircea_popescu: !up sosamendez
mircea_popescu: !up DigitalDayTrader
sosamendez: will there be any windows releases of the protocol from the bitcoin foundation?
assbot: ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ykJZq5 )
sosamendez: im talking about this one
mircea_popescu: sosamendez you can compile it if you wish, and sign the copy
ben_vulpes: sosamendez: wincrud was explicitly stripped from the codebase.
mircea_popescu: whether anyone uses it or not i guess depends on how credible you seem to them
mod6: hola amigos :]
cazalla: safety isn't guaranteed sosamendez
ben_vulpes: doing anything related to keys on a windows machine is baaaaad sosamendez
ben_vulpes: hola mod6
mircea_popescu: come andan ?
ben_vulpes: i wish my spanish were good enough to pun on andan and adonde
mircea_popescu: anyway, powernap time.
ben_vulpes: wait first why would i object to qntra gawker whatever
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [09:26] and whether ben_vulpes objects or not, i can only see it in terms of "qntra model ruined gawker, because bitcoin is the world eater" << suppose i'll ask over afternoon coffees
sosamendez: mircea: how you enjoying argentina
sosamendez: compared to romania
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00029628 = 6.8441 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81500 @ 0.00029582 = 24.1093 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9409 @ 0.00029628 = 2.7877 BTC [+]
mod6 feels like a new man
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63100 @ 0.00029582 = 18.6662 BTC [-]
davout: ben_vulpes mod6 you ready?
mod6: yeah!
mod6: sorry was just messing with my openbsd wifi
mod6: should I head down to the lobby?
mod6: aight, im just gonna head down there. c-ya in a bit.
davout: mod6: yep, heading down there now
ben_vulpes: vamanos!
ben_vulpes: vamanos!
Chillum: Fritzing is a great tool. I love how after building your circuit you can order $5 prototype boards
Chillum: hardware hacking is cool
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114700 @ 0.00029136 = 33.419 BTC [-] {2}
Chillum: I have never understood how a 1 paragraph post that links to a full article somehow makes it to the top of google searches. They are adding basically nothing
danielpbarron: height=327079 vs height=224268
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27550 @ 0.00029523 = 8.1336 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55850 @ 0.00029524 = 16.4892 BTC [+]
mats: jesus, Slack got a 160mn round at 2.8B valuation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43338 @ 0.0002915 = 12.633 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6118 @ 0.00028914 = 1.769 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.000296 = 12.7872 BTC [+] {2}
davout: ;;ticker --eur
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
davout: ;;ticker --currency eur
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
davout: ;;ticker --currency EUR
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
davout: ;;ticker --currency EUR
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
davout: ;;ticker --market bc
gribble: OKCoin BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.405279, Best ask: 222.456895, Bid-ask spread: 0.05162, Last trade: 222.456895, 24 hour volume: 109476.961, 24 hour low: 221.324569, 24 hour high: 230.426728, 24 hour vwap: None
davout: ;;ticker --currency EUR
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
davout: fuck you gribbleh
assbot: We are aware of the issues surrounding today's settlement. Thanks for your patience as we fix the problem. All funds are accounted for.
assbot: Update: OKCoin will resume operations as usual later today. Trades made post 4pm Beijing time will be retracted.
adlai: hooray for playmoney
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $35 before June " http://bitbet.us/bet/1129/ Odds: 5(Y):95(N) by coin, 7(Y):93(N) by weight. Total bet: 26.21280975 BTC. Current weight: 52,009.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36820 @ 0.00028914 = 10.6461 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65700 @ 0.00029901 = 19.645 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57460 @ 0.00029093 = 16.7168 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40097 @ 0.00030229 = 12.1209 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: !up rofei
trinque: BingoBoingo: anyone figure out whether ascii was fucking around or if that was an actual impersonator?
BingoBoingo: No idea. Likely one or more impersonators.
jurov: who? the bolivia one?
jurov: maybe it's nsa and s.nsa are plying spy games
BingoBoingo: Spy vs. Accidental Spy
kakobrekla: fucking around would require leaving the bed
jurov: why? escort won't come to the room?
kakobrekla: thats not around.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70944 @ 0.00030548 = 21.672 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.0003103 = 10.6743 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00030443 = 2.679 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: .:: Phrack Magazine ::. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ISXu6A )
assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1G1NQuJ )
trinque: man phrack has a great header image
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32480 @ 0.00030368 = 9.8635 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82150 @ 0.0002973 = 24.4232 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes but what if i wanna advertise my pgp version and its implied affiliations ? also, sorry for skipping your scoop mention in the cavirtex article, it just seemed a little tardy to have mentioned it.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: The Argyle Sweater Comic Strip, April 14, 2015 on GoComics.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1CXcQ1O )
assbot: Mircea’s Hierarchy of Needs, a letter. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1CXdLzf )
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-04-2015#1103404 << that qntra commenter eh. lol so he doesn't understand things so i'm wrong "because reasons" and therefore other things and such.
cazalla: that atm article BingoBoingo.. few weeks ago we got a comment bitching about my original article but it was on an article not even relevant, i assumed it was someone using a bot to just seo the guys name or something, (you can see it in the trash)
BingoBoingo: Interesting
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.0003102 = 5.8938 BTC [+]
cazalla: ip is from thailand too, perhaps he hired someone to do pr for him (see all the typos?) seeing his name is linked everywhere with the arrest
BingoBoingo: Ah, k so PR spam
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4427 @ 0.0003102 = 1.3733 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32100 @ 0.00029164 = 9.3616 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24415 @ 0.00029444 = 7.1888 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34101 @ 0.00029919 = 10.2027 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10999 @ 0.0003103 = 3.413 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28271 @ 0.0003103 = 8.7725 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120836 @ 0.0003115 = 37.6404 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83100 @ 0.00031237 = 25.9579 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: "The high-tech spaces we walk through now are fit only for the smiling ghosts of computer visualizations, a purgatory of ‘aspirational but accessible’ restaurants and bars, ‘media-walls’ and ‘public art’ of unremitting dreariness. Where socialists and radicals could once read within the language of explicit engineering signs of redemption or change, the post High-Tech architecture in our cities has no suc
pete_dushenski: associations: it may not be historicist, like the postmodern architecture of the neo-liberal turn in the 1980s, but rather its anaesthetized formal language is a perfect complement to the hollowed out shell of social democracy."
pete_dushenski: heh, this murphy douglas fellow gets it.
pete_dushenski: designing and building cities around "ideas" and can only lead to unliveable insanity.
pete_dushenski: i should say "centralised ideas" are the point of contention
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174700 @ 0.00031322 = 54.7195 BTC [+] {4}
pete_dushenski: soviet-harvard delusions will lead to cold and disenchanting cities
pete_dushenski: as we see with canberra and new york, for example.
BingoBoingo: !up asciilifeform
BingoBoingo: !up Citizenfive
Citizenfive: What's up fellas
assbot: “Cody Wilson Wants to Destroy Your World” by /ajzaleski https://t.co/kUTv9jyJJA
danielpbarron: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ^
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 162892 @ 0.00030018 = 48.8969 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Citizenfive: Not too much. Are you the one who leaked the Drone chart at Rammstein to Greenwald?
BingoBoingo wonders if Citizen works like SPECTRE, sequantial numbering and all
Citizenfive: It's a possibility. Neither denial nor confirmation would accomplish much here.
danielpbarron: not without a gpg
Citizenfive: There's some important lessons in the DPR case about gpg's CAPS & LIMS in practice
trinque: Citizenfive: such as?
Citizenfive: Cryptographically tying writing to an identity — if only probabilistically, something sadly not often considered either — is a double-edged sword.
BingoBoingo: Well, the first is don't let the Fed's get your privates
Citizenfive: Most of the time, I'd prefer to leave open strong possibility that me today is not me tomorrow. But I'm not here to lecture on the merits and foibles of specific cryptosuites. I'll use what I need. :)
trinque: Citizenfive: when you have that you may lose assurance that you're speaking to whom you want
trinque: I see your point though
trinque: different problems, one's deniability and one's privacy
williamdunne: Citizenfive: Lets be honest, the biggest issue was OpSec
Citizenfive: Yes. The above link from Twitter, if you think about it, is stonger evidence that I am at least the same persona as was using that account earlier today, than anything I could present you with GPG over these channels. And, presumably, if Twitter C5's personality does not change or claim "omg HAX!" in a few hours or days, you can be comfortable that
Citizenfive: whatever I write here was indeed *probably* the same persona. At this very second that is less certain than it will be, from a Bayesian perspective, as time goes on and Twitter C5 behaves normally. Make sense?
Citizenfive: It always is. (OPSEC)
trinque: Citizenfive: insufficent data for meaningful response
trinque: *answer
danielpbarron: Citizenfive, until you're in the WoT, it doesn't really matter what else you do
danielpbarron: !up Citizenfive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36352 @ 0.00030661 = 11.1459 BTC [+] {2}
Citizenfive: Well what are we here to accomplish, gents? I'm not opposed to your WoT, but that's not why I'm here.
danielpbarron: I think MP wanted to talk to you, but he's busy with the conference probably
danielpbarron: in the meantime you could get a key registered
Citizenfive: Yeah. Seemed to have a specific reason, too. I don't expect I'm a regular conversation topic.
williamdunne: !s Citizenfive
assbot: 0 results for 'Citizenfive' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=Citizenfive
Citizenfive: I'll reconsider joining your super-secret boy band. Maybe. Depends on MP.
trinque: !b 1
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2NBBPSG.txt )
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market buttstamp
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.6, Best ask: 223.05, Bid-ask spread: 0.45000, Last trade: 222.63, 24 hour volume: 7974.94113398, 24 hour low: 220.0, 24 hour high: 228.29, 24 hour vwap: 223.914503409
williamdunne: ;;ticker --market buttfinex
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.49, Best ask: 222.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 222.5, 24 hour volume: 27097.48973466, 24 hour low: 219.58, 24 hour high: 228.98, 24 hour vwap: None
williamdunne: Oh wow
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market ButtChina
gribble: BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 222.79656, Best ask: 222.856278, Bid-ask spread: 0.05972, Last trade: 222.854664, 24 hour volume: 191409.66390000, 24 hour low: 221.39238, 24 hour high: 229.402662, 24 hour vwap: 225.195343576
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70250 @ 0.00029575 = 20.7764 BTC [-] {2}
williamdunne: In reality they only have one dog
trinque: lol, extra points for the stripper name
BingoBoingo: !up Citizenfive
assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dt6wmh )
williamdunne: Out of all the derp that goes on, on bitcointalk, that seems to be completely sane
williamdunne: Operated by someone in the US, its self-preservation on his part to comply
williamdunne: If you send messages in cleartext on a forum run in the US, I'm not sure what more can be expected
williamdunne: (That is not to say that the action is just, just should have been predicted)
cazalla: williamdunne, no doubt he's in a difficult situation but with the last one, he wasn't even going to mention anything and had to be convinced to provide additional information to the public if memory serves
cazalla: BingoBoingo wrote on it, might have a better recollection of events than i
trinque: the idea that a forum is something which is hosted in one particular place instead of distributed among its members is absurd
trinque: fuck you, entire web
williamdunne: cazalla: If he didn't comply straight away, it would still end up with them threatening him personally. I would do exactly the same if I was in the US. Best not to mess with the guys with guns
williamdunne: Then again, I also wouldn't still be in the US
williamdunne: trinque: It suits well for most people, as do day-jobs mocking factory-floors
williamdunne: trinque: Has its place, even if not what we need
trinque: williamdunne: why for example does freenode need to be involved in this exchange I'm having with you now?
trinque: am I not able to get packets to you myself?
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Plenty of things law enforcement can use to leverage Theymos, most prominently the GLBSE shennanigans
williamdunne: BingoBoingo: Indeed, that is my point
williamdunne: trinque: Convenience, everything on here is completely public anyway so no use in a subpoena.
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trinque: williamdunne: of course, I'm asking a more fundamental question about "why the hell still mostly centralized services using HTTP"
trinque: or in this case IRC
trinque: williamdunne: you've probably read over this http://trilema.com/2015/artifexd-a-better-ircd-rfc/
assbot: [Artifexd] A better ircd [RFC] on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1yDn5gN )
trinque: I'm looking forward to it
williamdunne: trinque: Sounds good, although how would that work with dynamic IPs?
trinque: williamdunne: good thread in the comments
williamdunne: !up citizenfive
williamdunne: Read over the idea
williamdunne: Could many of the same goals not be achieved by just integrating GPG into IRC?
danielpbarron: irc isn't written by a member of the WoT
trinque: williamdunne: what's the thought there, that the messages within the IRC protocol would be GPG messages?
trinque: you could probably make something that was sort of like the proposal by cramming all the traffic, both gossip and direct messages through pm
trinque: probably better to design the thing from the ground up eh?
trinque: williamdunne: tangentially related it was rather trivial to make point-to-point chat with gpg, awk and netcat
williamdunne: danielpbarron: What reason would that matter in particular? All our messages are public anyway. I doubt your OS was written exclusively by a member of the WoT (even if you did compile it yourself)
trinque: williamdunne: I think the idea is eventually to have a full stack within the WoT
williamdunne: trinque: Maybe, if it works well then awesome. Will be a great thing. But seems like it could end up more hassle than it is worth
trinque: williamdunne: hassle to whom?
williamdunne: trinque: Each individual end-user, we'll exclude development efforts
trinque: it should be done at a certain point, not a katamari of features
trinque: if it passes messages between nodes as described, and does that perfectly, that's a fantastic place to stop, then build separate things which make use of that
williamdunne: trinque: maybe, I might just not be thinking creatively enough
Citizenfive: A properly-done "better IRC" would pretty much fix most objections I have with the current WoT, btw
Citizenfive: But use OTR
trinque: Citizenfive: read the spec?
danielpbarron: otr isn't in the WoT
Citizenfive: Just the RFC. The general spirit of it is sound.
williamdunne: Citizenfive: my familiarity with OTR is very slim, having only used it in conjunction with jabber. But what does it offer that GPG doesn't?
danielpbarron: it's more user friendlier
trinque: nah not the only thing there, as I understand it, it opts for deniability
trinque: as per earlier thread
danielpbarron: gossipd has similar feature
trinque: indeed
trinque: Citizenfive: thanks, I will read this
danielpbarron: !s ephemeral key
assbot: 14 results for 'ephemeral key' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ephemeral+key
trinque: Citizenfive: I don't think off-the-record is what's wanted here
trinque: well not first
Citizenfive: PGP & OTR are not mutually exclusive
trinque: mhm
trinque: take the example in the logs above, asciilifeform is using an alternate nick while traveling, and it appears someone decided to spoof as him
williamdunne: Citizenfive: They would effectively need to be mutually exclusive if deniability is what you're going for in any group chat setting would they not
trinque: well there's a distinction between saying "I am connected to the node I think I am"
trinque: and saying "this message I'm looking at was certainly authored by X"
trinque: I want the former without question
trinque: the latter is a feature one could use or not
trinque: depends on the situation
Citizenfive: Both are very good tools. At present, I see many solutions trying to fit the square peg of PGP into the gaping goatse of "maintaining OPSEC in an adverse environment of well-heeled adversaries". That is, it fits, but a large round peg, perhaps OTR, would allow less... spillage.
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trinque: Citizenfive: it appears one of the goals of the gossipd network is for the topology of the network to be the topology of the WoT
Citizenfive: The visual breaks down, but I'm amenable to a solution that uses both pegs in some way.
danielpbarron: must be in WoT -- until then, generate your own temporary keys for "off the record" communication
trinque: danielpbarron: there is a place for non-WoT authenticated communication
Citizenfive: fuck's sake, the WoT is fine, lol; it too is a tool
trinque: take the namesake of this nick ^
Citizenfive: like a damn broken record >.<
Citizenfive: Right now, too few users of the WoT know how to use it *properly*, so it's not super important to me at this time. When that changes, I will use it.
trinque: Citizenfive: define properly
trinque: !up Citizenfive
danielpbarron: the users who do know how to use it "properly" are the only users worth dealing with
trinque: yes yes, WoT is good, let her speak
Citizenfive: MP appears to know how, in his description of how to use it he explains what it is and isn't
trinque: Citizenfive: I'm asking for my own information, not as part of an implicit debate
Citizenfive: Without searching, if he tells me [user X] also uses it properly, I would probably trust that. All subject to the extent that I trust MP's intentions and motivations, which is sorta the point of a WoT
assbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/18l11un )
trinque: was just asking your interpretation
trinque: anyhow yes, a tool
Citizenfive: trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/
Citizenfive: I have no objection to ^
danielpbarron: what's the objection then? that not enough net effect yet?
trinque: danielpbarron: say, oh I don't know, I'm deep within the NSA... and I want to leak some documents
trinque: lol
trinque: why in hell would I communicate with you using something that requires I create a (for all reasonable measures) permanent identity
danielpbarron: the identity doesn't have to be tied to a slave name
trinque: true enough, and one might want to know later he's dealing with the same citizenfour as last time
Citizenfive: I guess that, and more critically, amoung its users, I see too much overreliance on it (which is to say, people who don't fully grip the CAPS&LIMS of it as a tool)
trinque: however in the process of doing said leaking, and especially in the process of *establishing* trust one may want deniable messaging
trinque: gossipd as I understand it readily supports that
trinque: *will support
trinque: you connect to some node that's the all-welcoming orifice and it forwards it on
trinque: and the chain of connections from that point onward is known
Citizenfive: But we'll get there. That's the difficulty with anything. The WoT automates some rep stuff, but doesn't automate KNOWING what really is and isn't automated, or something like that
Citizenfive: I'm not prepared to type enough to really explain my thinking at the moment
danielpbarron: the WoT isn't automated
trinque dives back into meatspace work
Citizenfive: It automates collecting and remembering-correctly certain things. These actions were previously done in one's own head, usually with less fidelity and in ways that required more effort or energy or whatever. Idk, I call it automation, but it doesn't really matter.
assbot: xkcd: Winter ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQmw6M )
Citizenfive: The above is Feynman's favorite XKCD, and whoever can tell me why becomes my favorite asseteer
trinque: Citizenfive: reminds me a bit of the vid where he discusses magnetism
assbot: Feynman: Knowing versus Understanding - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQnDDJ )
trinque: the magnetism one came to mind because he goes from a superficial understanding of the thing to a deeper and deeper description, ultimately saying "we have no idea"
trinque: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO0r930Sn_8 << must've been the idiots guide to the concept
assbot: Richard Feynman Magnets - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQnRKY )
mircea_popescu: hello chan!
trinque: mircea_popescu: good evening
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Good morning
mircea_popescu: good gooding.
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 15:38:26; Chillum: hardware hacking is cool
mircea_popescu: "Slack brings all your communication together in one place. It's real-time messaging, archiving and search for modern teams."
mircea_popescu: hey, sounds like 3bn.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-04-2015#1103568 << the official word is that the behaviour couldnb't be reproduced (ben tried amongothers) and prolly alf did some strange locally.
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 19:09:10; BingoBoingo: No idea. Likely one or more impersonators.
Citizenfive: Trinique wins, with bonus points. I usually use the bit about knowing the name of a bird.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-04-2015#1103574 << you could do that thing where you peel your thing and just trace around her inner labia until you blow.
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 19:18:32; kakobrekla: thats not around.
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 22:45:24; pete_dushenski: heh, this murphy douglas fellow gets it.
mircea_popescu: !up Citizenfive
mircea_popescu: hey, you're the twitter chick ?
mircea_popescu: definitely reads like her
mircea_popescu: ;;rate Citizenfive 1 actual women actually in tech.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
mircea_popescu: !rate Citizenfive 1 actual women actually in tech.
assbot: Citizenfive is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: Citizenfive ^
Citizenfive: For politeness and the convenience of the asseteers, I will register if I stick around.
Citizenfive: Apologies for now.
williamdunne: Citizenfive: Mircea just offered you a rating, and a compliment to go with it.
mircea_popescu: tsk, let ppls go at their own pace.
williamdunne: Citizenfive: Any backstory to the 'twitter' association?
mircea_popescu: digital is too firehose-y as it is.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I was just pointing out that its quite rare, they can go at their own pace;)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-04-2015#1103648 << actually, nothing specific. intel went "hey, here's one that's not stupid". doesn't happen that often.
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 23:32:14; Citizenfive: Yeah. Seemed to have a specific reason, too. I don't expect I'm a regular conversation topic.
Citizenfive: I will consider it the compliment that it is, in this "country", and am grateful for it.
mircea_popescu: i thought it was a cult
Citizenfive: williamdunne: Association?
williamdunne: I thought it was a sovereign?
mircea_popescu: who isn't these days.
mircea_popescu: heck, portland levies "art taxes" nao.
williamdunne: Citizenfive: "you're the twitter chick ?" - I'm assuming this was addressed at you
Citizenfive: The US is a cult. Most countries are. :)
mircea_popescu: in other news, these guys actually beat the puerto madero dock. incredible walkers.
mircea_popescu: we actually ran out of dock, five miles later.
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Citizenfive: Yes. → https://twitter.com/fnxTX is me. Or so I have claimed, earlier in the thread.
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Citizenfive: (thread → channel)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-04-2015#1103677 << it's entirely a legalistic gimmick. somehow court manages to convince itself it's too good to just go read the forum, must order someone to copy it down for it. sorta like ottoman turks.
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 00:21:09; trinque: fuck you, entire web
williamdunne: Citizenfive: So how was it that you found #b-a?
mircea_popescu: cuz dpb invited her over i'd bet.
trinque: mircea_popescu: must order someone to copy it down for it << in 3 ring binders with those fancy tab-stickers
Citizenfive: williamdunne: I've known of it and lurked periodically over the years. This marks the second time MP has personally invited me, and it'd be rude to not see why, at the least.
Citizenfive: The question is why the second time; my guess is via this thread → https://twitter.com/AlekseiV/status/586780660553031680
Citizenfive: Which means MP, no longer on Twitter, still watches it (or someone noticed)
Citizenfive: Which is smart
mircea_popescu: Citizenfive oh is it ? which was the 1st ?
Citizenfive: Back when you were still on Twitter, several moons ago
mircea_popescu: fancy that.
williamdunne: Citizenfive: Welcome anyhow
Citizenfive: Grazie
Citizenfive: mircea_popescu: small world. Extremely so, though I guess bell curves and the size of the developed physical world explain most of it.
Citizenfive: six degrees is more like two
mircea_popescu: this is concerning, because it has two possible explanations. one being that my intel sucks, the other being that the us is running out of people.
mircea_popescu: i can specifically measure the former.
mircea_popescu: as oft said here, the situation is so soviet it bleeds.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: People as if in people worth listening to, or people as if in humans?
mircea_popescu: well neither exactly. people as in people capable to listen to themselves.
mircea_popescu: !up Citizenfive
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Citizenfive: I believe there are few good English-speaking minds; those countries do too thorough a job of taking children with potential and delivering batteries (as in, the Matrix sort) into adulthood. There are few Ender Wiggin minds left by the age of 18.
Citizenfive: It's not a grand conspiracy of course; there are no reptilian overlords, but the state of things is curiously perplexing.
mircea_popescu: ;;google ender wiggin
gribble: Ender Wiggin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender_Wiggin>; Andrew Wiggin - Orson Scott Card Wiki: <http://ansible.wikia.com/wiki/Andrew_Wiggin>; How Much Is Ender Wiggin Worth? - Forbes: <http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2013/07/31/how-much-is-ender-wiggin-worth/>
mircea_popescu: dude just how influential WAs that book.
Citizenfive: Anyway I might as well register a key so you can quit voicing me manually.
Citizenfive: Not influential enough. But then everyone thinks Hunger Games is omg so relevant!
Citizenfive: Authors and sci-fi folks have been screaming this shit for years
williamdunne: Citizenfive: I'm probably one of the younger people here, and from my experience the biggest complaints are that any sort of discourse from rhetoric is largely discouraged, and you are given almost no freedom as to move outside the syllabus.
Citizenfive: Those who notice the re-runs and recycled plots eventually wind up here, and a few other places where such minds go
williamdunne: Citizenfive: IIRC the hunger-games author though more democracy was the answer
Citizenfive: Because the internet lets all minds who question these things find these places, QED (probably) there are fewer minds than we'd like
mircea_popescu: williamdunne well, obviously it is the answer, just, not to any question worth asking.
mircea_popescu: "Over drinks last night, one of the beautiful young ladies in attendance brought up the question of ‘free will’ with me. " << eh petey...
mircea_popescu: this guy is like forever young.
Citizenfive: DEMOCRACY isn't actually a thing. Not in a meaningful sense. Hence every country is a democracy. A well-architected democratic republic has some neat features, for example. But democracy is kinda like an adjective.
mircea_popescu: eh, democracy is a thing, even if derpy iliterate muricans never bother to learn what the words mean. it's not gonna change what it is just because a bunch of people have nfi.
Citizenfive: It is useful in describing something. Like the word modern. Modern car. Modern house. Modern, by itself, may or may not be useful. Modern art?
mircea_popescu: we could say that the meaning of democracy is fundamentally undemocratic.
williamdunne: Citizenfive: I completely agree; but I will assume they were going with the definition of diluting power to all, something along the lines of direct democracy
mircea_popescu: modern art is quite meaningful, yes. ever read the "what is art" thing ?
Citizenfive: williamdunne: See! DIRECT democracy. Also an actual thing, and a meaningful phrase. "Democracy" in REAL english just means "good" or something.
mircea_popescu: "real" english just means democratic english, which is not english.
mircea_popescu: english is THE KING'S english.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in orc speak, everything means the same and is spelled "urgh"
Citizenfive: anyway I don't want to get lost into semantics; I think most here understand whatever system of governance the US has, it manages to masquerade as a democracy, and isn't a good system. Whatever that says about the word is less important to me.
mircea_popescu: well you're right in that it would try and to thew same degree succeed to masquerade as anything else, including a teosophy.
mircea_popescu: any play's equally successful if played out for the goats.
williamdunne: Citizenfive: Any system that provides people with the ability to voice and attempt to enact opinions they are not qualified to have is a bad idea in my books. The crowd has no wisdom, select actors with value behind them do.
mircea_popescu: which value you can only evaluate in a system that's actually open to idiots.
Citizenfive: Right. And so long as people accept that God wrote the Bible because the Bible says so, or a democracy is good because a "democracy" says so, will miss questioning what any of those things ARE.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean ARE.
Citizenfive: literally or as a joke ref to Bill Clinton re: "IS"
mircea_popescu: merely the fact that this question can be asked would seem to pull the rug from under yer feet eh.
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 01:00:47; trinque: williamdunne: I think the idea is eventually to have a full stack within the WoT
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: My particular complaint is that while we can evaluate who has more value in this particular system, the people with value's opinions have no more weight in process than those without. Hence a large number of welfare whores/elderly having a lot of influence
mircea_popescu: williamdunne anyway, to do some positive work : democracy is the notion that what people think matters. the exact opposite of alf's favourite, "the cold equations" (which'd describe a republic).
mircea_popescu: there's really no alternative : either one or the other. republics fail because not enough spartans, democracies are all one because idiots are all one. cccp was a democracy too.
mircea_popescu: (literally)
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Citizenfive: What I'm saying, if I'm saying *anything*, is that the words don't matter. And as a word, democracy seems to have too many contradictory definitions to be especially useful as a descriptor. If US = democracy, well, that's not good. If Switzerland = democracy, that's a bit better, though the consensus is that beast is a "DIRECT democracy".
williamdunne: Would lack of governance not be the alternative? (or self-governance if that wording floats your boat).
mircea_popescu: Citizenfive can you distinguish between the "words don't matter" position and (mutatis mutandins), the "BUT it is called the “Worldwide Web” so there really is NO chance of any site being 100% secure" ?
mircea_popescu: williamdunne suppose you have a five year old kid on your knees and she asks what happens if there's nothing in a box. "well... there'd be air" "no, not even air"
mircea_popescu: "so then a vacuum" "no, not even vacuum"
trinque: Citizenfive | What I'm saying, if I'm saying *anything*, is that the words don't matter. << I used to think this; lately I consider it an autoimmune disorder caused by lifetime immersion in symbolic shit
mircea_popescu: nigga... say wut ?! what "lack of governance" wonder be this, of the box so empty it doesn't even contain a vacuum ?
Citizenfive: The trick is how to discuss democracy, then, when everyone has their own idea of what it means. Or any topic. I've found most arguments can be traced to the arguers somewhere having slightly different internal definitions for something.
mircea_popescu: trinque same.
mircea_popescu: Citizenfive the next trick to find is that you can get people quite bothered by carefully using their contributions to words.
mircea_popescu: also known as "the shit between their eyes"
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Well, depends how we want to define governance
mircea_popescu: is it up to us ?
mircea_popescu: yes, governance by us is best governance. agreed.
mircea_popescu: now convince her.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-04-2015#1103712 << why would you wish to be anonymous ? other than "because i've already lost the war".
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 01:05:03; Citizenfive: But use OTR
mircea_popescu: if you've already lost the war, why are you derping with axes and shit.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I wonder what was said internally at the SEC about your offer to govern the world of BTC assets?
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 01:17:25; Citizenfive: Right now, too few users of the WoT know how to use it *properly*, so it's not super important to me at this time. When that changes, I will use it.
mircea_popescu: !up Citizenfive
Citizenfive: Basically, all can be sorted out via Socratic roundtables — everyone looking to, fundamentally, prove themselves WRONG, rather than to prove themselves RIGHT. Eventually the people at the table find and exorcise their internal inconsistencies, and arrive together at Reality.
mircea_popescu: what are you, 19 ?
Citizenfive: Do you believe in an objective reality, or is it subjective?
mircea_popescu: this is a rehash of "socialism will come once people are generous", which was a rehash of "christ will come once people are good".
mircea_popescu: you can't seriously contemplate a system so easy t oattack. i will attack it.
mircea_popescu: just because i do not wish to be part of something this trivial to attack, nor do i see merit in its continued existence.
assbot: The Hard Fork Missile Crisis | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1ITZ5Jk )
mircea_popescu: what, again ?!
Citizenfive: That'd be interesting, as I don't believe either of those.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Related to attacking systems
mircea_popescu: What do you say, Mircea? Are you a narcissist? "Narcissist" means egotistical, self-focused, and vain.
mircea_popescu: holy derp on a stick.
mircea_popescu: word means any of [word,word,word] ring.
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williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Well?! What do you say
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: This is trial by a jury of your peers in the WoT
mircea_popescu: basically, this is not different from shanonizer (seen commonly in spam)
mircea_popescu: dude i have no idea.
mircea_popescu: i was kinda rooting for simpleminded psychopath, myself.
Citizenfive: I seem to have improperly conveyed the degree of importance I place on this "word" stuff. It's not particularly important; don't worry about it.
mircea_popescu: Citizenfive i was just discussing a snipped from the thing he linked
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Narcissistic still fits most descriptions of psychopathy, so you may still achieve your dreams
mircea_popescu: eh in the sense of "i think i might have been raped" fits most modern descriptions of rape.
williamdunne: True, seems like a lack of care for many could be easily misinterpreted as narcissism
mircea_popescu: anyway, what is it ?
williamdunne: What is?
mircea_popescu: narcisism. didn't you have a question ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, more about this tomorro i guess, it's been a long day. tada.
Citizenfive: Narcissist != someone with DSM's definition of NPD
williamdunne: It was based off of the Qntra comment, although apparently the trial is based upon these characteristics: >> What do you say, Mircea? Are you a narcissist? "Narcissist" means egotistical, self-focused, and vain.
williamdunne: !up Citizenfive
ben_vulpes: whoa a citizenfive
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ben_vulpes: whoa a citizenfive
williamdunne: Also Citizenfive: Where are you CTO?
ben_vulpes: buenos tardes
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assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 20:27:29; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes but what if i wanna advertise my pgp version and its implied affiliations ? also, sorry for skipping your scoop mention in the cavirtex article, it just seemed a little tardy to have mentioned it.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-04-2015#1103567 << best guess is wifi hotspot across street and wacky irc client config. nevertheless...
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 19:08:40; trinque: BingoBoingo: anyone figure out whether ascii was fucking around or if that was an actual impersonator?
ben_vulpes: eyyy pete how's that wedding?
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assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 00:22:11; williamdunne: trinque: It suits well for most people, as do day-jobs mocking factory-floors
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: That would be the one
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ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-04-2015#1103722 << have we not covered this? if one desires 'forward secrecy', just...create an ephemeral key.
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 01:08:08; Citizenfive: https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/otr-wpes.pdf
ben_vulpes: !up Citizenfive
assbot: Logged on 17-04-2015 23:37:04; Citizenfive: I'll reconsider joining your super-secret boy band. Maybe. Depends on MP.
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 01:54:00; williamdunne: Citizenfive: Mircea just offered you a rating, and a compliment to go with it.
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 01:59:03; Citizenfive: (thread → channel)
assbot: Logged on 18-04-2015 02:31:01; Citizenfive: It's not a grand conspiracy of course; there are no reptilian overlords, but the state of things is curiously perplexing.
williamdunne: pff and who are you again? << not clear who addressed at
Citizenfive: I like PFS by default, and OTR makes that happen in a fairly frictionless way. You are of course welcome to use whatever cryptosuites you feel work best for you.
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