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mats: mats is like the oracle on the topic now! << not sure if you're criticizing what i said there
mats: perhaps. do you see meaningful expansions ? << how about the production of communications to include voice, where there is a written record of it? e.g. transcript of wiretap log
mats: i was hoping you'd have a better idea tbh.
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asciilifeform: !up Alina-malina
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diametric: Somehow I've never seen this before.
mircea_popescu: mats was not criticizing, was approving.
mircea_popescu: how about the production of communications to include voice << im not sure right off what that'd do.
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asciilifeform: all you can verify, both the most and the least you can verify, are BLOCKS. << yes.
asciilifeform: now is the time for folks who have not actually bothered to read the fscking source, to confess.
asciilifeform: srsly it's finitely long. just do it.
asciilifeform: you might need a decade to find all the weird, quasi-exploitable hair, but to get a basic understanding of how the thing works - is another matter. very doable.
asciilifeform: exhortation, from now on, abbreviated for convenience, 'RTFT' (read the fucking turd.)
assbot: Why Dogecoin is a scam, why the people pushing it are assholes, why Business Insider is a contemptible piece of shit, why anyone who ever worked for it will be dancing in the street for nickels and why Kevin Rose is a fuckwit. Plus other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uKxtRQ )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't actually.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-111701 << 'confirmed' << i ponied up on 12/31, where's the 'confirmed'
assbot: The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uKxzJ3 )
mircea_popescu: i suppose it is a testament to my scholarship that i can actually get away with outsourcing the actual readsing ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're in teh list arentcha ? he asked me specifically to confirm. you're also confirmed!
asciilifeform: aha, did not check
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i sorta assumed that you either read it, or had it read to you, or wrote compatible gadget
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: because you showed symptoms of understanding correctly how it works
mircea_popescu: nah, just, i know what qs to ask of people. "go read it and i'll ask you things"
ben_vulpes: amusingly, i was confirmed without paying.
mircea_popescu: i was also lazy.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes guest speaker ?
ben_vulpes: almos
ben_vulpes: almost*
mircea_popescu: nah, ben_vulpes only scammed participant. neglected to send 2.x ended up sending 8.x
ben_vulpes: too bad i'm too bad of a scammer to pull it off
mircea_popescu: tru story.
ben_vulpes: worst story.
ben_vulpes: hatchu.
ben_vulpes: for the record, attendance declarations are only binding on those who wish to attend, not his unimpeachable lordship mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: lol i sorta assume he'll be there.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't that be the pirate of all time
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i refer of course to the quoted price of attendance.
ben_vulpes: re dogillionaires, that was fluffypony
ben_vulpes: !s bitcoinate
assbot: 23445 results for 'bitcoinate' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitcoinate
ben_vulpes: mthreat this is almost worse than useless
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have been repeating, like mantra, 'stemming search must die'
asciilifeform: because it must.
asciilifeform: it simply needs to get off the planet. it is an instrument of muppetry, plain and simple.
ben_vulpes: on a previous topic, eg bitcoinating
asciilifeform: does 'grep' include stemming? nein.
ben_vulpes: here's a proposed list
ben_vulpes: - download and validate blocks
ben_vulpes: translate block height to block hash
ben_vulpes: - translate block height to block hash
ben_vulpes: - return the height of the current best-known chain
ben_vulpes: - return a block corresponding to a given hash
ben_vulpes: - relay transactions to the network
ben_vulpes: (fin)
asciilifeform: seems like it all sits inside 'validate blocks', no ?
asciilifeform: so the postulates aren't orthogonal.
ben_vulpes: true enough
ben_vulpes: but there are subspaces, if you'll allow the floppiness of wording.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason, incidentally, i didn';t read it myself is i dun trust my rudimentary c understanding.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this is just the kind of manual which ought to live in a 'lions book' commentary on source.
mircea_popescu: best have ppl that spoeak the language tlel you what the paper says.
ben_vulpes: f'r instance, the thing should cough up on the command line, a block if given a hash
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's actually heavily idiomatic cpp. with extensive use of 'high level construct' libs like 'boost' ('iterate', various data structure diddles, etc.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rather painful to read for anyone who is not in a daily habit of birthing similarly flavoured monstrosities
asciilifeform had to open a book
mircea_popescu: "let' smake c more like java on wheels"
ben_vulpes: idiomatic cpp aside, thoughts on the list?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: how can you forget my dogeillionaires redirect!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes 2nd step, what's it mean ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony ;/ so many lulz, so little head
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if i know that the most recent block was of height N, I can ask bitcoind-node for the hash of the block at height N
ben_vulpes: (or N-1, or N-M)
mircea_popescu: this is an ambigous request.
ben_vulpes: because of multiple chains?
mircea_popescu: "on whjich chain"
ben_vulpes: ofc. central concern, this.
mircea_popescu: the notion of N must be subordinate ot the blocks only identifier, its hash
mircea_popescu: (another bit of braindamage th epower rangers forced upon the world, other than "historical transaction validity" as a thing, is "block as aheight"
ben_vulpes: i see it.
ben_vulpes: "there is only one chain" as well.
mircea_popescu: this is nonsense of the first order, an utter antipattern, and iof they weren't stupid as frogs i'd suspect its deliberate
ben_vulpes: "antipattern" << lol
mircea_popescu: like sending you to hunt for snipes so yo ucan't be a huner)
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mircea_popescu: think of it as "chain of pointers" and now tell me who the fuck doesn't flunk the idiot that actually keeps an enumeration array for the chain
mircea_popescu: best way to crash undebuggably ever.
ben_vulpes: then this implies a requirement that a bitcoind-node know about and be able to return data about the various chains of which it knows.
mircea_popescu: depends what are you trying to do /
ben_vulpes: spec a node, i guess.
mircea_popescu: with the list i mean.
asciilifeform: chain of pointers << tree.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform right.
ben_vulpes: if you'll forgive the glib response, figure out what can be riven from the satoshi codebase
asciilifeform: (satoshi did not go in for book-learning, it seems, esp. re: data structures, but that doesn't mean that we have to forget school)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no asciilifeform put it in proper terms. it's a tree.
mircea_popescu: you can, if you wish, implement a function that returns "equibranches" on a tree.
mircea_popescu: but this is a secondary consideration.
ben_vulpes: secondary to?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it does, unfortunately, mean that they who did forget / never had what to forget can pass for "geniuses"
mircea_popescu: but it is what it is.
asciilifeform: wai wat
asciilifeform: the pleasures of reinvention ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, just the power ranger lot. they'd have (i optimistically assume) been excluded / self out-selected if the satoshi actually understood programming.
ben_vulpes is but a humble student of the trade
mircea_popescu: a codebase that's written by a monkey is more liable to attact "do-ocracy" monkeys than one written by a sane person.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hard to say. dead rat and dead lion get eaten by crows just the same
mircea_popescu: also true. i guess it may drop here.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes secondary to whatever it is you're doing.
asciilifeform: i can picture a surface so mirror-smooth that barnacles cannot stick.
asciilifeform: but not often have seen this in life.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform emacs, right ? :D
assbot: Various implementations of the 'cat' command, for comparison. ... ( http://bit.ly/1C02pQ8 )
mircea_popescu: 782 22684 gnu-cat.c o.O
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mircea_popescu: anyway, so gnu's written in php. what's new.
mircea_popescu: static char line_buf[LINE_COUNTER_BUF_LEN] = { ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', '0', '\t', '\0' };
mircea_popescu: ok i've seen enough
mircea_popescu: unless the number of lines is larger than 999999. */
ben_vulpes: my eyes :(
asciilifeform linked this for a reason.
mircea_popescu is brb, making 999999 line files.
nubbins`: found it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: go straight for MAXINT.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i can tell by some of the pixels.
ben_vulpes: i discovered recently that "baby" carrots aren't so much "lathed" as they are knocked around in a conical abrasive vessel
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: you flappin
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ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: 'tis all i got
ben_vulpes: perhaps a lonely registered participant?
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mircea_popescu: so what's going to be your next victim, nubbins` ?
nubbins`: a bowl of cereal
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mod6: oh nm.
mircea_popescu: the fucking headlines these people are doing
fluffypony: Nubbins`: you should launch FNC, FuckNubbinsCoin
mircea_popescu: winchel would chisel them into little egg supports.
fluffypony: You already have a logo
assbot: Mitchell Demeter | LinkedIn ... ( http://bit.ly/1C05Xls )
nubbins`: fluffypony i lel'd heartily at the video
mircea_popescu: yeah nubbins` print it on a square piece of cloth
mircea_popescu: "artisan"
nubbins`: big reveal at the start: lasered art in wood
mod6: Cointrader exchange, etc? *shrug*
nubbins`: then he fucks with it with his dremel w/ the sandpaper attachment (??)
nubbins`: sprays water on it at one point
assbot: Mitchell Callahan | LinkedIn ... ( http://bit.ly/1C068Nx )
nubbins`: y'know, like you do with wood
fluffypony: Only watermelon ivory
ben_vulpes: ah, he's a Joseph David stoolie
ben_vulpes: how was the strip club, hanbot?
mircea_popescu: joseph david ?!
ben_vulpes: David Joseph?
ben_vulpes: CaVirtEx
ben_vulpes: the one who did a runner with a Havelock "raise"
ben_vulpes: heh. "one".
mircea_popescu: wait. wasn't that kumala that did the vtx thing ?
ben_vulpes: oh is there a CaVirtEx and VirtEx?
ben_vulpes: ah it's the whole gang
mod6: ben_vulpes: oh my bad. my eyes are bleary.
ben_vulpes: mod6: my contacts are gumming up too :)
mircea_popescu: CAVirtex, Canada’s largest and oldest Bitcoin online exchange, is facing a potential class action lawsuit to the tune of $884,880 CAD. The alleged losses were incurred by the lawsuit-bringers after the company offered 10% of its shares for sale on the cryptocurrency-based asset exchange, Havelock Investments then stopped listing the stock by the end of 2013.
mircea_popescu: apparently it is... both
ben_vulpes: wait, cavirtex is virtex?
ben_vulpes: was i right for once?
ben_vulpes: lol will wonders never cease
pete_dushenski: pretty sure ya
mircea_popescu: no. they're different, however,
mircea_popescu: they both scammed.
fluffypony: Different scams
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i've met mitch callahan a couple times irl
mircea_popescu: these guys "delisted" at a 25% buyback that they didn't really honor
fluffypony: Also not to be confused with Virturex
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mircea_popescu: fluffypony right
mircea_popescu: what do we do once they simply start repeating names ?
ben_vulpes: can we stop caring about scams yet?
mircea_popescu: BFL the "Exchange" , pirate the asic manufacturer, woodcutter the ponzi scheme...
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: almost
ben_vulpes: srsly, woodchopper?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes only if you're willing to cut noobs entirely loose
ben_vulpes: they're already cut loose. can't get into b-a
ben_vulpes: no crusading valkyrie
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: anything in particular you'd like to know about your interested participant for the conference?
mircea_popescu: i thought nubbins was contemplating a genderbendin' surgical intervention.
ben_vulpes: only counts if it comes with wings
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski nothing in particular, just the general.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes and a spear.
ben_vulpes: i thought he was going under the knife to get rid of the spear
ben_vulpes: "dick surgery"?
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fluffypony: Best thread
mircea_popescu: i think he has been delaborately confusing us to gain time
mircea_popescu: WHERES THE VIDEOS NUBBINZ
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: mitch runs a little coding shop, they do some web design as well
mircea_popescu: you know him /
nubbins`: he actually posted the video hey
pete_dushenski: his shop did the new website for cavirtex
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: a bit
nubbins`: pretty rough watch
nubbins`: i'd recommend someone else watch it and give you a summary
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: we've met twice, once for drinks, once for coffee
pete_dushenski: he lives in calgary
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: https://www.cavirtex.com/home << but but that's the old site!
assbot: Canadian Virtual Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1C082On )
pete_dushenski: actually he might've moved to toronto but no matter
ben_vulpes: 100% canadian lol
ben_vulpes: gets me every time
pete_dushenski: he's a programmer
pete_dushenski: i poked him to figure out pgp, he did
ben_vulpes: oh god not programmers
pete_dushenski: i don't think he's done his 6 months tho, not seriously
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: new logo!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes shut up and eat your cult programmeas.
ben_vulpes: i ain't eating programmers
ben_vulpes: no females in that set
mircea_popescu: i ate a female programmers
ben_vulpes: a plural of one?
mircea_popescu: better than male. no hairs.
mircea_popescu: not even on neck.
ben_vulpes: just stay clear of her heirs
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: anyways, mitch sends me the off pgp-gram, and i recently sent him to the trilema jobs board
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes her heirettes might toss good salad ?
pete_dushenski: then he said "oh, what about this conference?" and i told him to leave a comment if he was interested
pete_dushenski: looks like he did
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski ah i c
ben_vulpes: herr heiress!
ben_vulpes: that's how the staff'll address my she-spawn
ben_vulpes: aw i fucked the genders there didn't i
mircea_popescu: hopefully just one.
ben_vulpes: YOU KNOW IT
mircea_popescu: it'd be heiress herrin
mircea_popescu: maybe she could be called herring
mircea_popescu: then it'd be heiress Herrin Herring
ben_vulpes: i'm rarin to go harin' after herrin herring
ben_vulpes: anyways, how does this work in practice: 2 mining pools release a block (B, C), building off the prev (A) - do miners arbitrarily choose which child block to continue building on?
mircea_popescu: from the protocol pov, it's arbitrary.
ben_vulpes: in practice though
ben_vulpes: do ops frantically get on the horn to get their block into the long chain?
mircea_popescu: in practice either whichever they hear first or whichever has better likely outcomes
mircea_popescu: point in case, march fork.
hanbot: <ben_vulpes> how was the strip club, hanbot? << no buttered strip clubs for me, thanks, i'm off to play the grand piano
ben_vulpes: what actually happened there? i thought the forked chain was rejected?
ben_vulpes: hanbot: *buttered* strip clubs?!
ben_vulpes: what strange am i missing out on
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: come to think of it, mitch has been by assets before but under a pseudonym
pete_dushenski: ;;seen menahem
gribble: menahem was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 weeks, 3 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <menahem> lemme verify my id again. brb, heading to an office space. gracias for the welcome.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell thestrin1puller ffs thestringpuller fix your bouncer
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ^kid's not a joo even
mircea_popescu: " do ops frantically get on the horn to get their block into the long chain?" << through that process.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> then it'd be heiress Herrin Herring << who opens up an earing shop, obviously
ben_vulpes: the fork-block didn't make it into the main chain, correct?
mircea_popescu: you're talking of ambiguous things as if they were specified.
mircea_popescu: "the winner of world war three was a good man, right ?
mircea_popescu: "totally"
mircea_popescu: hanbot hopefully she's earnin' with it.
ben_vulpes: "main chain" << the ambiguous bit?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/25_notes-on-increasing-the-maximum-bitcoin-block-size-or-why-it-aint-happenin.html << hey ben_vulpes did gavin ever respond to that one ? << hey this one actually doesn't read too poorly a few months later
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mircea_popescu: pity you're not an economist like oleg andreev
mircea_popescu: or whatever other random css expert gavin found on fiverr.
ben_vulpes: amusingly, oleg andreev abandoned the only decent gui client for 'git' on os x
ben_vulpes: it's amusing to watch everyone manually patch the closed source turdball to cope with each successive os x upgrade
ben_vulpes: in order to do what precisely with bitcoin?
ben_vulpes: certainly not hang out with the asshats.
mircea_popescu: man on stationary bike isn't catching any trains.
punkman: http://hyperfool.com/ufcknubbins.mp4 < lol this guy, 1 hour to carve one huge N and he can't even do a straight line. just digging on the wood with all the wrong rotarytool bits.
mircea_popescu: !up metsuno
pete_dushenski: metsuno: get a cloak eh
mircea_popescu: punkman he did it deliberately so it's artistic and unique
mircea_popescu: there's a book "luxury rotary bits management" you should read.
pete_dushenski: unless web access is immune from ddosbot, i dunno if it is
mircea_popescu: i thought the ddos derp crapped out earlier.
mircea_popescu: anyway, im off. take it easy ye buncha socialists.
ben_vulpes: from hampshire?
ben_vulpes: metsuno you're going to get expelled hanging out here
metsuno: sorry
metsuno: I'm shy
pete_dushenski: laters mp
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: how's the ride?
nubbins`: punkman i'm not sure why nobody is mentioning that the design is already laser etched into the fuckin piece when the video starts
nubbins`: then the guy just runs his dremel around the already-engraved letter
nubbins`: like...
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: parked for the weekend
nubbins`: maybe the man is mentally ill
pete_dushenski: it's unbelievably warm here
punkman: nubbins, oh it looked like pencil, but then I wondered about the outer circles
pete_dushenski: like +6C
ben_vulpes: nubbins` this comes back to the trouble of identifying malice vs incompetence
nubbins`: punkman fullscreen that shit
nubbins`: the whole thing is actually etched before the camera is turned on
nubbins`: i'm tempted to go get the design laser etched onto a piece myself
nubbins`: and create my own video of me dremelling it
nubbins`: but that would definitely qualify as "getting out of hand"
punkman: you could do the same job with a dull spoon I think
ben_vulpes: stahp
ben_vulpes: plz no buly
ben_vulpes: http://hyperfool.com/ufcknubbins.mp4 << ah shit 1 hour in loving the burns
nubbins`: i'm all "why didn't he laser the entire background if he's gonna do this?"
nubbins`: "o, wait, hand mumble mumble"
nubbins`: did you get to the part where he sprays water on the wood?
ben_vulpes: lol no.
nubbins`: i guess it brings out the grain
nubbins`: much more so than, say, oil
ben_vulpes: i scrubbed to 1 hour in, saw the burns, bailed
nubbins`: yeah heh
nubbins`: the start was v suspenseful
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: it actually shows the grain remarkably well, and nondestructively to boot
ben_vulpes: !up cazalla
ben_vulpes: dafuq's up with your keys, caz?
cazalla: pete_dushenski, you driving around in john voight's car or wut?
ben_vulpes: lol just here for the zingers
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pete_dushenski: cazalla: john's ? mebbe. saddam's ? definitely.
punkman: the end with the laser pointer and text that says "hey first piece I lazered"
pete_dushenski: in fact, i've named my mercedes just that: "saddam"
punkman: "Beyond that, this is the season when i import all my wood to get me through the next year. That means on average i have from 1 to 5 trucks showing up a week, 1 or 2 shipments coming through customs i need to keep on top of, and also a dozen employees to keep track of."
punkman: trucks of wood!
nubbins`: i suspect smoothie from the forums is kinda stupid
cazalla: pete_dushenski, everybody's talk at you but you can't hear a word they're saying.. just driving 'round in saddam's car
ben_vulpes: you guys gotta stop bringing these scams around here
nubbins`: actually, remove "suspect" and "kinda"
nubbins`: and "i" or else it doesn't make sense
ben_vulpes: hahaha
ben_vulpes: just write the regex okay?
nubbins`: ;;google regex.info
gribble: Jeffrey Friedl's Web Sites: <http://regex.info/>; Jeffrey Friedl's Exif (Image Metadata) Viewer: <http://regex.info/exif.cgi>; Regular-Expressions.info - Regex Tutorial, Examples and ...: <http://www.regular-expressions.info/>
nubbins`: ^ quicker than putting chrome into focus
nubbins`: wait that's not right
nubbins`: ;;google regular-expressions.info
gribble: Regular-Expressions.info - Regex Tutorial, Examples and ...: <http://www.regular-expressions.info/>; Regular Expressions Reference - Regular-Expressions.info: <http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html>; Tutorial - Regular-Expressions.info: <http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html>
nubbins`: there
ben_vulpes: man i hate regexen
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: powerful, but so is finally fitting a medicine ball in your asshole
ben_vulpes blinks
nubbins`: ...so i've heard
ben_vulpes: how does that work
nubbins`: generally only once.
ben_vulpes: do you just sit down slowly?
ben_vulpes: AlexWkz: your cloak is getting applied after you join channels
nubbins`: once it's in, you sit down quite rapidly
punkman: regexp ftw!
nubbins`: AlexWkz try putting your nickserv password into your network settings
nubbins`: or smth
ben_vulpes: don't just stand there, man!
ben_vulpes: do something!
ben_vulpes: anything!
ben_vulpes: it doesn't matter!
punkman: !up AlexWkz
ben_vulpes: oh yeah that
cazalla: so is this 2gb wood carving tutorial worth the dl or does the thread provide enough lulz?
ben_vulpes: nope not worth anything
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punkman: "In some conceivable but unlikely scenarios, you might see incoming transactions as having 6+ confirmations when the transactions are actually invalid"
punkman: ah two weeks old, pardon me
nubbins`: cazalla no
nubbins`: really 2gb?
nubbins`: bitspill wins
ben_vulpes: sauce
assbot: Videos of WoodCollector Hand Carving: Care of MOB ... ( http://bit.ly/18enYjC )
nubbins`: see quoted text for context
nubbins`: "OK, so he didn't use a laser"
nubbins`: like... dude, are you even having the same conversation as us?
nubbins`: or just copying random words and pasting them into sentences
nubbins`: i officially stop
ben_vulpes: please
nubbins`: you could piss in this man's face and tell him his lips are dry, he'd reach for the balm
nubbins`: i regret trying to help
ben_vulpes: enjoy this instead
assbot: champagne ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jou8eg )
nubbins`: that sure is an image
ben_vulpes: sho nuff
ben_vulpes: i'm trying to get a book deal
assbot: Tinder Makes Its First Match in Antarctica -- The Cut ... ( http://bit.ly/1JouDF5 )
nubbins`: so i have this korg sample sequencer, and it comes with 100 built-in sounds
nubbins`: you have to use an iphone app to load new samples onto it
nubbins`: except they were kind enough to release an SDK, written in C, on github ;o
punkman: doesn't have line in?
assbot: - volca sample SDK ... ( http://bit.ly/18epC4w )
ben_vulpes: oh hey where's bingoboingo
nubbins`: no line in
nubbins`: it's v inexpensive
ben_vulpes: how does the sound get into it?
nubbins`: modulates it into modem-y sounds
nubbins`: which you play in through the clock sync port
nubbins`: which is an 1/8" audio jack
assbot: volca sample DIGITAL SAMPLE SEQUENCER | DJ & Production Tools | KORG ... ( http://bit.ly/18epK4a )
nubbins`: you can also transfer sequence information via this same method
ben_vulpes segfaults
ben_vulpes: nonono
nubbins`: so, e.g. arrange your patterns beforehand and send em over
nubbins`: it's actually surprisingly fun.
assbot: KORG volca sample - Tweak, Play, and Sequence Samples - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JovLZr )
nubbins`: and will literally hit brown notes if connected to a proper sound system
ben_vulpes: i gave up on proper sound systems
ben_vulpes: it just makes life so much worse when people show up and play youtube videos
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: even headphones
assbot: Introducing KORG volca sample - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/18eqINQ )
nubbins`: ^ this is the creator messing with it
ben_vulpes: i can't wait for bandwidth to get expensive again
nubbins`: takes one piano sound and makes an entire sequence with it
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thestringpuller: I think that last netsplit resulted in my getting ddosed
ben_vulpes: there he is
thestringpuller: it was pretty bad they disconnected me for 40 minutes off the backbone
ben_vulpes: yowch
thestringpuller: Pretty much like an outage but there wasn't an outage at all, so it had to be DDOS.
thestringpuller: Something is still sucking bandwidth but not as bad.
thestringpuller: like a fat dude sitting in front of my door or something
thestringpuller: how are you ben_vulpes ?
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ben_vulpes: writing a thing
ben_vulpes: first time in months
ben_vulpes: feels good
thestringpuller: now qntra news this weekend?
ben_vulpes: that's your bag not mine
thestringpuller: ;;seen BingoBoingo
gribble: BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 21 hours, 47 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: perhaps we have your new pc here. << very interesting
assbot: What does it mean to "bitcoinate"? And just as importantly, what does bitcoinating not include? ... ( http://bit.ly/18evdrH )
ben_vulpes: and to all a good night!
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fluffypony: ben_vulpes: that's precisely the current Monero architecture
fluffypony: the daemon maintains the connection to the network
fluffypony: relays blocks / transactions, stores the blockchain, etc.
fluffypony: and then you can run as many wallet clients as you want
fluffypony: even if they're on separate computers and talk over your LAN to the daemon
fluffypony: oh, and the daemon is also the thing that does / can do solo mining
fluffypony: although it'll gladly serve up work via a GBT-style call
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assbot: The Leaning Buildings of Santos, Brazil | Amusing Planet ... ( http://bit.ly/1C0HM6h )
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punkman: !up coderwill
coderwill: punkman: thanks, cheers
coderwill: I was following a conversation on GitHub for Bitcoin.org, and found it interesting that Circle has explicitly requested to be removed from the site because it targets a different demographic from what they are searching for.
assbot: Add long time duration HSTS as a requirement for wallets by saivann · Pull Request #700 · bitcoin/bitcoin.org · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1yGUhkX )
punkman: coderwill, nobody will want anything to do with bitcoin.org or the foundation, sooner or later
coderwill: punkman: i can understand the foundation, but i wonder why the website?
coderwill: punkman: BF just pays a sponsorship fee to help cover the hosting costs, and to support saivann helping maintain it and a few other projects on there, they don't own it
punkman: coderwill: iirc bitcoin.org and bitcointalk.org are owned by some dude that for some reason lets various derps use them
assbot: Sirius - Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jp9RoX )
coderwill: Ah ok, I'm don't know about that.
coderwill: I don't*
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2014 15:27:40; ThickAsThieves: "bitcoin.org's content is managed by Saïvann Carignan, who is somewhat associated with the Foundation (though not an employee AFAIK), but the bitcoin.org domain name is jointly owned by me, Sirius, and an anonymous person. We will take action if bitcoin.org is being used inappropriately or the development group does something crazy." ~Theymos
punkman: !up coderwill
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decimation: asciilifeform: some guy uploaded a pre-wwii map into the pedi-wikia that plots the locations of functional german hamlets in european ru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia#mediaviewer/File:Russia_ethnic.JPG
assbot: European Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EjmVfh )
decimation: I didn't realize that the Crimea was filled with Tartars
fluffypony: davout: lol
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davout: ;;later tell mircea_popescu: looks like /r/buttcoin folks are actually agreeing
gribble: The operation succeeded.
davout: "If Bitcoiners could ever get decent adoption and max out that 7 transactions per second the fees wouldn't even have to be that bad. Just make every transaction cost 0.006 BTC and that's just $1.50. That would be the equivalent of the current block reward. But the problem is they've all decided that microtransactions while having an expensive Bitcoin is the killer feature."
davout: seems to me that folks from /r/buttcoin are an order of magnitude less retarded than those in /r/bitcoin
davout: fluffypony: the saivann guy is obviously some sort of topological equivalent of a feminist, tries to push irrelevant shit to feel like he, in some way, matters
davout: ;;isup mpex.co
gribble: mpex.co is up
davout: gribble: lies
mod6: $proxies
empyex: mod6: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
empyex: mod6: MPEx-Status: mpex.bz (89 milliseconds), mpex.co (91 milliseconds), mpex.ws (102 milliseconds), mpex.biz (167 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (592 milliseconds)
empyex: mod6: Health-Indicators: Homepage: √ MK Depth JSON: √ VWAP JSON: √
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assbot: Microsoft to buy Revolution Analytics, pushing further into big data - GeekWire ... ( http://bit.ly/1z9WK9K )
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assbot: O'Reilly Media Books Free to Read or Download Legally : Download Free Book ... ( http://bit.ly/1B9AIik )
jurov: !mpif
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mircea_popescu: davout well geneally yes, but some voices in particular seem to hate you personally.
ben_vulpes: guten tag saboteure
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davout: i guess so
davout: as the classical french wisdom goes: "on est tous le connard de quelqu'un d'autre"
mircea_popescu: jstolfi 3 points 14 days ago
mircea_popescu: It looks like he made his goal in life to be the most detestable person in the internet. (Methinks he is still nowhere near that rank, though.) However he is a precious resource, as an expert bitcoiner who enjoys kicking some of the most sacred cows in bitcoinland.
mircea_popescu: so apparently this stolfi brazilian derp figures himself some sort of stragetist or something ?
mircea_popescu: i dun think there's anything more adorkably pathetic than academics aiming for political power. sort-of like the bichon frizee trying to mount a german shepherd in heat.
mircea_popescu: dat dangling minipenis, a foot under the all consuming hole...
mircea_popescu: http://news.yahoo.com/colleague-slain-prosecutor-barred-leaving-argentina-215640674.html <<< pity we can't make bets on whether he "suicides" too. "protective custody" my foot.
assbot: Argentine prosecutor shot point blank in forehead: official - Yahoo News ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkmuBB )
asciilifeform: Can Have Problems (tm) !
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: did you see cai guo-qiang's fireworks last night?
mircea_popescu: wassat ?
ben_vulpes: chinese explosives "artist"
ben_vulpes: did the beijing olympics
ben_vulpes: "paints" with gunpowder between vellum sheets
ben_vulpes: saw a scad of his stuff at the guggenheim when i lived in nyc. rather fun.
mircea_popescu: ah la boca.
mircea_popescu: well... i guess because i was mostly indoors ? only 10 or so miles away
ben_vulpes: suspended a bunch of cars right down the center of the place with flourescent tubes to evoke a fireworks show
mircea_popescu: so not actual fireworks ?
ben_vulpes: well not the static piece in the middle of the goog lol no
ben_vulpes: he did the beijing olympics firework show iirc
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mircea_popescu: eyah but you're basically assking someone in manhattan if they saw whatever cars in astoria.
mircea_popescu: it's a ways.
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ben_vulpes: yeah but fireworks!
mircea_popescu: was it fireworks or was it suspended cars ?!
mircea_popescu: anyway, either way i somehow didn't see nething.
mircea_popescu: http://latidobuenosaires.com/mapa-de-la-boca.gif << here's a map of ba barrios for the curious
mircea_popescu: !up coderwill
coderwill: thanks
coderwill: just reading about this nisman story, bizarre
ben_vulpes: the cars were at the guggenheim in nyc
ben_vulpes: yeeeears go
ben_vulpes: the guy does fireworks.
ben_vulpes: but whatever, irrelevant.
coderwill: what does la boca have to do w/ the nisman situation?
ben_vulpes: nothing
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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yup i missed it w/e it was.
coderwill: ah, n/m then :)
mircea_popescu: !up TL121
ben_vulpes: kinda looks like the self-leveling stuff
mircea_popescu: the woman or the goop ?
ben_vulpes ponders the notion of a self-leveling woman
mircea_popescu: "i said give me those buoys!"
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mircea_popescu: "Frank Sinatra had a terrible temper, as shown by his irrational hatred of Barbara Streisand"
mircea_popescu: dude paul anka is fucking retarded. how the fuck would a hatred of nosewoman be irrational ?
pete_dushenski: because rationality says: love jooz
pete_dushenski: or something
assbot: America’s best-selling cars and trucks are built on lies: The rise of fake engine noise - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ekyinh )
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long until someone makes a sexnoises app
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 01:41:29; asciilifeform: speaking of diamonds (specifically of the synthetic variety), one possible observation here - not concerning the idiocy of the wood thing as such - is that anyone demanding a specific 'colour' (as per the 'monolith' essay) - i.e. provenance - of object, is begging to be chumped
ben_vulpes: i've always wanted to crush some diamonds.
mircea_popescu: "Among purists, the trickery has inspired an identity crisis and cut to the heart of American auto legend. "
mircea_popescu: look, it's dying, what do you want from it. cars are pretty fucking stupid. they had an economic niche which made us forget temporarily, but it's closed up.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: diamond cleaves along crystal plane - how do you suppose folks cut them prior to lasers ?
pete_dushenski: the fake car noises are because the cars are so well insulated now
pete_dushenski: and the engines are all turbo because "fuel-efficiency"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski but the "idnetity crisis" is not because of the change in car noise.
mircea_popescu: it's because in the change in the future prospects of the whole activity.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i have a notion of how diamond cutting works/ed
asciilifeform: see the advantages: you can reprogram the faux vroom speaker for horse whinny.
mircea_popescu: merely disguises itself as "because X", like a domestic argument. in fact, it's becaue there's going to be a divorce.
ben_vulpes: i want to actually crush some.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: you're right, the identity crisis is that of americans as a whole
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how does one go about crushing diamond? hydraulic press?
ben_vulpes: something like that.
mircea_popescu: well that's one thinmg, but specifically as to the car, this entire car-and-zoning-laws-and-sprawl-and-commute model got killed by the internet
mircea_popescu: THAT's disruption.
mircea_popescu: and it's killed and dead and not coming back and everyone and everything will change to get rid of cars, and of the sprawl
mircea_popescu: and of commutes and of the right of "governments" to decide land use.
ben_vulpes: us road infrastructure is falling apart due to expense of maintenance.
pete_dushenski: cheap gas might give it a few more minutes of breath
ben_vulpes: last generation's boondoggle.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes understand : no mistress is ever pooir bnecause "of expense".
mircea_popescu: she's poor becauise she sucks at sucking cock.
mircea_popescu: it's only expensive because we're really done with them. otherwise, they'd be a "great investment".
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski notrly, because it's not really about the gas. it's about the inconvenience.
mircea_popescu: people don't want to spend an hour driving, they want to spend that hour derping on a dating app
pete_dushenski: which would be why average joe can't wait to get a self-driving car
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: weren't they a grand investment for that generation?
mircea_popescu: (not for fucking, mind you. so give them a work at home job where no woman can ever come and a way to score nude tumblrs and that's the new economic model)
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoinfs/bitcoinfs << entirely unrelated. "full node" in f#, m$ "turdlang"
assbot: bitcoinfs/bitcoinfs · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkAb3m )
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yeah, they were, back when the interstates were built. that's perhaps the shiniest example opf "govt investment in slump" mantra.
mircea_popescu: when it's fucking clear what to spen the money on, so clear even a govt could figure it out, keynesianism works.
pete_dushenski: same thing we're seeing in china at the moment
pete_dushenski: they've used more concrete in the past 3 years than usa in the past century
mircea_popescu: had bush spent ALL the stimulus on making internet connecxtions of 1tbps universally available, i wouldn't be here snubbing my nose at horowitz
pete_dushenski: all for the interstates and highways and byways
mircea_popescu: yeah. bad call.
pete_dushenski: "but it worked for usa"
decimation: the problem with a fancy interstate is that it costs a shitton of $$$ for upkeep
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: when do we get cobol node
decimation: and of course it is politically impossible to admit 'we are too poor to have nice roads'
pete_dushenski: decimation: impossible sums of money
mircea_popescu: decimation i never heard of anyone complain that their 16yo cocksucker costs money to upkeep.
mircea_popescu: complaints start after the 30th birthday.
decimation: pete_dushenski: aren't you a fan of the econtalk podcast?
pete_dushenski is, fittingly, working on another car-related article atm
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what about a cl node?
mircea_popescu: lol pete, repackage this you're halfway there
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that one is after nubbins` prints the fscking book and i read it
pete_dushenski: this might have to be part deux!
decimation: They had some guy talk about transportation in the us in 2013: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2013/10/winston_on_tran.html
assbot: " + soundfiledesc + " ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkAYS2 )
pete_dushenski: scratch that, it's going to be an epic footnote
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8943709 << also saw this this morning
assbot: Mezzanine: A Common Lisp-based 64-bit OS for VirtualBox | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkB0ZZ )
ben_vulpes: abstractions atop abstractions...
pete_dushenski: decimation: i vaguely remember that one
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you know teh second system effect ?
mircea_popescu: where people end up making ftp clients for firefox extensions ? because "it can be done"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: see earlier experiment of the same flavour, 'movitz'
decimation: "But, when you sum these things up in terms of what consumers spend in terms of getting to work, various pleasure trips and non-work trips, and then you look at what shippers spend on shipping freight and so on and so forth, and then what the government spends building infrastructure, we're talking shares of GDP (Gross Domestic Product) that approach the amount that we are spending on health care. ... And that's just out of pocket
decimation: expenditures. "
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't that hard to port, e.g., sbcl, to 'metal' - but then you end up in driver hell.
mircea_popescu: decimation all of that used to not matter when one considered on the other side the even greater expenses of the available alternatives.
mircea_popescu: but that other side has evaporated.
ben_vulpes: i've seen windows 3.1 in javascript...
decimation: 'other side' being more or less 'private' transport and land use planning?
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mircea_popescu: decimation no. "working at home" , "jacking off to porn and looking at sights on pinterest"
mircea_popescu: work and pleasure. solved, and much safer than actually going there.
mircea_popescu: "it's certainly uncontaminated by any cheese", to quote cleese.
decimation: mmorpgs and other like games probably 'employ' much 'excess' capacity in the us
mircea_popescu: we meet irl once a year, and even that's extravagant for like half the people.
mircea_popescu: yet we meet here each day.
mircea_popescu: what if we had to phisically drive to vegas, like kennedy HAD TO in the 50s ?
mircea_popescu: we would, of course. so what the driveway cost would not be a topic of conversation.
mircea_popescu: who here is on an economy internet package ? everyone just "give me the fattest pipe you got" "oh only that ? INTRODUCE LARGER ONES!"
thestringpuller: I nominate mircea_popescu for the bitcoin public service award!
asciilifeform: lol, yeah, see recent thread where i 'what's a gb optic terminal cost plz'
thestringpuller: After reading all of MPOE-PR's post, I have realized MP has done the greatest public service to this community.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well you should have seen town meetings in the 60s. "FIFTY LANES WE MUST HAS! EACH WAY!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: laugh if you must, but my town still has these same meetings.
mircea_popescu: yeah well you're in the sticks.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you actually read the whole lot /
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the road never actually gets expanded, of course. but there is endless derp on the subject, for so long as i've lived here (~11 years)
decimation: mircea_popescu: actually much of the worst road 'infrastructure' in the northeast are in cities where people stopped highways from being built
mircea_popescu: decimation im sure.
decimation: around the same time, passenger rail went tits up, so there's little choice except shitty driving
asciilifeform: there is rail here. it is mainly used to get in and out of wash., d.c.
mircea_popescu: boston actually had excellent rail system. perhaps the best in the us.
mircea_popescu: back in 2004, it was car after carful of people all reading a book
mircea_popescu: i've seen pics these days. half as full, everyone on gadget.
decimation: in fact, the sitting senator for maryland, mikulski, was personally involved in leading the riot to stop the connection of I-70 to downtown
decimation: because it was racis
mircea_popescu: it's just... moving around is dead.
asciilifeform: if only it were entirely dead
decimation: I suspect wash dc is one of the few cities with a major upper class commuting culture
decimation: because usg is too stupid to move to somewhere cheaper
mircea_popescu: decimation govt employees are not upper class.
decimation: heh, well it's what passes in wash dc
asciilifeform: actually, usg ministries where no official secrets are involved - now routinely let folks grunt remotely
asciilifeform: e.g., patent office.
mircea_popescu: of course the lord's slave mistress is what passes for upper class among the slaves. nevertheless, the actual upper class regards the favored equal to the common slave.
nubbins`: cough
mircea_popescu: decimation how was teh connection racis ?
nubbins`: the book indeed
thestringpuller: ;;seen BingoBoingo
gribble: BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 8 hours, 29 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: perhaps we have your new pc here. << very interesting
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: have you made contact with BingoBoingo?
thestringpuller: QNTRA is stale :(
mircea_popescu: <decimation> because usg is too stupid to move to somewhere cheaper <>< nah, not how it works. wherever it moves, the bedbugs move there too. it won't stay cheaper.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i have not, no.
mircea_popescu: did he get browbagged ?!
thestringpuller: hope feds haven't kidnapped him.
thestringpuller: i swear d00ds were following me in fed-like manner in rural georgia last night.
nubbins`: what manner is that
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller did you submit an article or something ?
thestringpuller: I was gonna do some weekend snippet posts to help lighten the load.
mircea_popescu: so did you submit anything ?
thestringpuller: more of "inquiry". article snippet is still in VIM rite nao.
thestringpuller: usually BB tells me if subject matter is "worthy" or not of qntra
thestringpuller: where do you find such tasetful porn?!?
nubbins`: who is burtw
mircea_popescu: burt wagner
thestringpuller: he ran a Pirate Passthru back in times of yore
mircea_popescu: ambiguous, was a pedo early bitcoin advocate with a ridoinculous hourlong webshow
mircea_popescu: was also one of the guys involved in "banker cartel" pirate bs.
mircea_popescu: in his defense, this later one was the saner of the bunch
nubbins`: show me an early advocate without a severe sexual disorder
mircea_popescu: iirc he even apologized and errything. dun recall if privately or publicly or what, years ago.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` ikr ?!
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you should fish out the shows tho, they're great. derp has the camera filming in demo mode
mircea_popescu: and it's alltogether just a bunch of artisanship
thestringpuller: nubbins`: I guess their mommy's told them playing with their weewee is bad.
nubbins`: reminds me of the time i filmed my death & had it played for my school lit class while i took the final week off
nubbins`: frame changes to view from bottom of bridge
nubbins`: CONTRAGULATIONS in glorious chunky white vhs-c lettering superimposed on the bottom
nubbins`: completely by accident, no way to remove it. we deemed it fitting and didn't re-shoot.
mircea_popescu: an hero is you ?
nubbins`: an hero wasn't me, a bunch of ears of corn broke my fall
nubbins`: then an unrelated scuffle on the bridge led to a man being thrown off, landing on me and killing me
nubbins`: it was a real roller coaster
mircea_popescu: i recall this grandiose commie romanian cinema thing, where "so what do we do ?! " "well... he can jump on some ears of corn" "but the camera will pick them up". pause. "not if you cover them in a brick painted sheet"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I can submit writeup if deemed worthy otherwise It'll stay in the vim buffer
mircea_popescu: guy ended up falling on an inexplicable pile of bricks
assbot: A retrospective on six years in the car blogosphere | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bqbxuo )
assbot: [WTB] Laser-engraved blocks of wood ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bqbwqq )
nubbins`: i lel'd
ben_vulpes: entirely unrelated, it strikes me that a full node should probably provide "getwork" type commands for miners
nubbins`: he's actually kind of an older guy hey?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes why ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00051729 = 15.6739 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "Preference will be given to those who provide video of them damaging the finished piece with a dremel tool." lol ok
nubbins`: there's screen grabs somewhere
decimation: re: baltimore: www.prrac.org/pdf/mohl.pdf "Over the next few years, RAM continued to protest the "victimization" of black communities in the path of the interstate, which purposefully seemed designed to take "the heart out of one of the most stable communities in Baltimore." Facing the removal of 10,000 blacks who lived in the path of the east-west expressway, RAM activists challenged the highway engineers who “view people as just
decimation: another obstacle, like a hill to be leveled or a valley to be bridged.”"
nubbins`: incidentally his actual profession is "treatment plant operator" but w/e
mircea_popescu: "To most, the fact that Lila called Mitch a hero for killing himself is strange. "
mircea_popescu: dumbass purimericans. yo, seneca killed himself!
assbot: Videos of WoodCollector Hand Carving: Care of MOB ... ( http://bit.ly/1zbqt24 )
mircea_popescu: "to deny entropy that final satisfaction".
nubbins`: i probably would actually pay upwards of $100 for that piece, as-is.
pete_dushenski: ^all the car tawk is in footnote viii :)
nubbins`: A++++ would hang on wall
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's a great way to end up in 20 years surrounded by junk
nubbins`: i purge as often as i binge
mircea_popescu: decimation you know i can actually see that argument ?
nubbins`: space is at a premium here 8)
mircea_popescu: not as to racism in any sense, but as to why it's a bad idea
nubbins`: anyway, my dad makes pen blanks, he'd love it
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i guess not in the spirit of modular design.
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah I think you have a good point
ben_vulpes: perhaps better would be a thing that connects to the network, slurps out unconfirmed transactions and poops that back out as the mining input...
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well, if you gonna do something, best know why you're doing it.
thestringpuller: nubbins`: this saga reminds me of some trailer park boys shit.
mircea_popescu: decimation i mean, if the entire objection to the mores of the black ghetto is that men don't live with the women they impregnate, and then you go demolish the one place for 500 miles where they actually do...
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes smokes now.
thestringpuller snaps fingers
decimation: the problem is that in democracy, it's really easy to kill off projects, so nothing is built
nubbins`: "Professional carpenters never, ever, EVER smoke in the shop. It's an incredible fire hazard as well as a personal danger since stimulants can increase the risk of slippage on a power tool. My father was an avid chain smoker and would never allow tobacco in his work area."
mircea_popescu: decimation sure, but on the other hand the job of politics is to avoid placing the table on the toes.
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: smokes, let's go.
decimation: mircea_popescu: although in this particular case, the neighborhoods were saved and they ended up full of broken families anyway
mircea_popescu: well yes. politics doesn't work, we know that going in.
decimation: this robert moses guy singlehandedly paved over many minority communities all around the northeast
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: those definitely look real.
mircea_popescu: yeah. real bad.
thestringpuller: i would hate to fast forward 20 years tho
thestringpuller: swing low sweet chariot
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mircea_popescu: nubbins`: i suspect smoothie from the forums is kinda stupid << generally known as such. his behaviour throughout was, to quote hanbot "nothing short of bizarre"
mircea_popescu: hm.... i never knew an "artisan" that works wood by the truckload ? this is akin to someone claiming to be dali explaining how he gets a truckload of paint a week...'
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mircea_popescu: assbot: Tinder Makes Its First Match in Antarctica -- The Cut << speaking oif which : the brave mthreat amongst us is going on a south pole expedition like next week
mircea_popescu: and he's going to try an' broadcast a btc txn from down there.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: ben_vulpes: that's precisely the current Monero architecture << heh. apparently sanity is not a luxury product.
mircea_popescu: coderwill: I was following a conversation on GitHub for Bitcoin.org, and found it interesting that Circle has explicitly requested to be removed from the site because it targets a different demographic from what they are searching for. << yeah., circle is looking for suckers / idiots / people who refuse to think.
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.02, Best ask: 249.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.21000, Last trade: 249.23, 24 hour volume: 23858.11300772, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 255.0, 24 hour vwap: 248.526571821
mircea_popescu: decimation: I didn't realize that the Crimea was filled with Tartars << golden horde sez nothing to you ?
mircea_popescu: davout: seems to me that folks from /r/buttcoin are an order of magnitude less retarded than those in /r/bitcoin << this is true.
mircea_popescu: one group is motivated by greed, which brings all the idiots out of the woodwork. the other group is motivated by broken ideology, which HAS a barrier to entry, because you can't adhere to an ideology and act on that basis if you're arbitrarily stupid.
mircea_popescu: it's true that you can't be smarter than Y, but you also can't be stupider than Y, and so the average will always be over Y which is not an average /r/bitcoin looks likely to reach.
mircea_popescu: but this because of what /r/ is, not because of what bitcoin is.
decimation: yeah I knew tartars/turkic peoples were scattered around the middle and eastern parts of asiatic ru, but I didn't realize they had taken up around Sevastopol
mircea_popescu: there was a historically important tatar state there,
mircea_popescu: at times more important than the muscovy duchy etc.
thestringpuller: what happens when all these VC fueled comapnies fail? Do we just go in an plunder them and shit?
mircea_popescu: this is what one means when he says "lithuanian situation is complicated".
thestringpuller: ;;ud lituation
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lituation | You go to the bodega and a chicken cutlet is half off and they give you a free bag of chips and an Arizona because they know you. That's a lituation.
mircea_popescu: you could in fact pretend like wait, "give russia back to the tatars"
decimation: putin's landgrab of crimea has a great deal of historical and cultural importance, of which the west is almost completely ignorant
decimation: http://theden.tv/2015/01/24/jesuisusefulidiot-western-leaders-exploit-the-paris-attacks/ "What was the #JeSuisCharlie demonstration about if not about free speech then? The shortest answer would be: emopolitik. As Colin Liddell has defined it, emopolitik is: “the achievement of political goals and the destabilization of rival political systems through the selective mobilization and projection of decontextualized human emotions and
assbot: #JeSuisUsefulIdiot : Western Leaders Exploit the Paris Attacks | Thedening the West ... ( http://bit.ly/1yZqWRz )
decimation: sympathies through social media.”"
mircea_popescu: well, "the west" in the sense of, "west of ozarks" are people who live in states bordered by straight lines.
mircea_popescu: obviously they imagine the world is you know, someone just walked out with a ruler cca 100 years ago
decimation: but 'that's how we do things here?'
mircea_popescu: decimation yep, that's pretty much what that was
decimation: "Concretely, this has meant giving massive publicity and a momentous political significance to the 17 people killed in the Charlie Hebdo and related attacks. This contrasts sharply with the treatment given to any number of other recent tragedies: the 1,400 girls raped by largely Pakistani gangs in Rotherham, England, the tens of thousands of victims of Islamist terrorism in Syria, and the over 4,000 people killed in the Donbass
decimation: region of Ukraine have not been given the same significance by the Brahmin classes of the West."
mircea_popescu: more relevant to our interests : the one public prosecutor murdered by the argentine state in argentina.
mircea_popescu: that's what i care about : statal terrorism.
mircea_popescu: three guys that fire weapons by hand are not my concern. three million dickless schmucks sitting behind desks, those are the problem.
decimation: sitting behind a desk breeds a kind of passive-agressive posturing syndrome
mircea_popescu: which has to be beaten out of the afflicted, for everyone's benefit.
thestringpuller: ^- it's still a public service tho
davout: decimation: "emopolitik" <<< this i like
decimation: davout: yeah it's a good term. note that emopolitik is called "political strategy" in the democratic west
mircea_popescu: well because the intellect is rarely functioning and universaly expensive to fire up, whereas the emoprocessor is always on.
mircea_popescu: so of course any headcount-based system will try to talk to the latter.
mircea_popescu: this is why you don't want "universal suffrage" : it makes politics a matter of emo manipulation, like marketing.
decimation: "system 1" thinking vice "system 2" thinking
mircea_popescu: anyway, the solution is quite simple : do not give everyone voice. have a voicing procedure in place.
mircea_popescu: and the solution will prevail because the problems universal suffrage straddles its practitioners with are not only unresolvable, but actually heavier than the sum benefits.
mircea_popescu: and as such... it fails on its own.
decimation: mircea_popescu: one wonders why newspapers haven't caught onto this idea
mircea_popescu: the intellect is rarely functioning and universaly expensive to fire up
mircea_popescu: the only sort of situation where US systems approach survivability are very plain, obvious questions that everyone, even a turtle, would get right.
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mircea_popescu: which is whence the crisis-oriented politics of all US sytems comes from. the only time the US US made sense was during war with germany. "either yer fer or against!"
mircea_popescu: so in general, sanity only needs very minimal measures to defend itself from the otherwise doomed attempts to relevancy of the us-ists : keep issues from becoming simple matters.
mircea_popescu: not a hard task these days.
mircea_popescu: (US = universal suffrage, not united states)
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mats: so meta
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16865 @ 0.00049721 = 8.3854 BTC [+]
jurov: lxr is same incredibly warty crufty stuff as mailman.. but seems i got it working somehow
assbot: Satoshi 0.5.3.chicken/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1L8WsDa )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00048866 = 4.9355 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/ok-so-what-is-bitcoin-disrupting/ << my modest etnry to "most important article published on the Internet in 2015"
assbot: Ok, so what is Bitcoin disrupting ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L8XsqO )
mircea_popescu: wd jumae
mircea_popescu: oops. wd jurov *
jurov: if it had go parser, i'd put btcd there too
mircea_popescu: there must be one
mircea_popescu: gsuneido/parse.go ?
mircea_popescu: oh nm, i think this goes the other way
jurov: well... lxr is in perl
jurov: maybe someday
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00049081 = 6.6259 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: His mastery of the skill comes not from his ability to "cut around the lines" but in that he can from start to finish carve on some of the most difficult woods in the world to work with. Wood that 80% of your so called "master carvers" as they claim on youtube and the woodworking forums would not touch in a hundred years because it takes some serious talent to carve them.
mircea_popescu: im sorry... wut ?!
mircea_popescu: apparently the average chump believes talent to be a sort of spark-of-superman.
mircea_popescu: maybe woodcollector should carve a block of boron carbide next, as a super-show of his super-talents.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26792 @ 0.00050569 = 13.5484 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: !up beautyon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00050561 = 5.764 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: 0 results - TinEye ... ( http://bit.ly/15xVDTk )
mircea_popescu: very useful ;/
mircea_popescu: if anyone wants to know what happens to "exciting revolutionary start-ups" once the burn rate burns through... tin eye is a fine example.
mircea_popescu: can't fucking find well known sets that are all over the interwebs.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00049087 = 10.2837 BTC [-]
Naphex: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762075 lmao, mlm + ponzi scam kicking it up.
assbot: [ANN] BitClub Network - Passive Bitcoin Mining Opportunity NOW LIVE! ... ( http://bit.ly/15y06FE )
mircea_popescu: "This sounds like a legit deal to me because the bitcoin mining can keep it going."
mircea_popescu: forum in a sentence.
Naphex: apparently a lot of romanians & italians are biting on it
Naphex: they get hooked irl ;o
mircea_popescu: gotta lose their bitcoins somehow.
mircea_popescu: !up BombaUcigasa_
mircea_popescu: !up CoraCrisT
BombaUcigasa_: salut MP
CoraCrisT: hey mircea_popescu . thanks!
BombaUcigasa_: nu sunt auth ca e web
BombaUcigasa_: am intrat sa vad discutia cu link-ul lui Naphex
mircea_popescu: tis an english chan you know
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00048649 = 4.5244 BTC [-]
BombaUcigasa_: much regret, very forgetful, many mistake
mircea_popescu: anyway, what discussion, flavour of the week tardstalk scam
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, anyone else who is interested in node on 'pogo' - buy yourself the box (pogo model 4.) i intend to post a recipe soon.
mircea_popescu: whole shebang ? pretty cool.
BombaUcigasa_: onecoin/btcclub convoluted "mining"/MLM schemes
CoraCrisT: and don`t forget "the marketing plan" . they have all figured out it seems
CoraCrisT: just waiting for the horde to join
mircea_popescu: eh, read up on the ognasty thing , or the diablo whatever that was for the classics of the genre
mircea_popescu: i suppose now that garza packed it, buncha noobs will be trying for the "first best largest" bitcoin scam thing.
CoraCrisT: and many more will fallow..
CoraCrisT: i love the high heels... they go great with the rustic roads back home
BombaUcigasa_: dacia?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00050656 = 3.9258 BTC [+]
BombaUcigasa_: nu vad http://trilema.com/2015/ok-so-what-is-bitcoin-disrupting/, nu ma prind, e o problema cu site-ul, nu apare postul ...
assbot: Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/15y4g06 )
BombaUcigasa_: it works now
assbot: WPA2 HalfHandshake Crack ... ( http://bit.ly/15y51X6 )
asciilifeform: mats: dictionary attack, snore.
mats: yeah. there are also easier attacks if you mean to go the rogue AP route.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1263 @ 0.00098375 = 1.2425 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;seen BingoBoingo
gribble: BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 12 hours, 29 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: perhaps we have your new pc here. << very interesting
thestringpuller: ^- your ip is showing
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 254.41, Best ask: 254.94, Bid-ask spread: 0.53000, Last trade: 254.4, 24 hour volume: 28837.40598966, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 257.0, 24 hour vwap: 249.600325346
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24619 @ 0.00049955 = 12.2984 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5931 @ 0.00047265 = 2.8033 BTC [-] {2}
Adlai: anybody else see wtf just happened on btce
davout: Adlai: do tell
Adlai: 1min candle: high 261.64 low 240.01
Adlai: it looked quite similar to what happened a few months back on bitfinex where the order book reported an out of date book about $20 below the current one
Adlai: except that this now reports trades, and low limit orders got executed
Adlai: i guess it's nothing compared to some previous flash sells, just caught me by surprise because it happened in front of my eyes
davout: hory shet
davout: way to shoot up
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 259.44, Best ask: 260.45, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last trade: 260.44, 24 hour volume: 30063.99864451, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 263.2, 24 hour vwap: 250.107871168
Adlai: ;;ticker --market btce
gribble: BTC-E BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 254.956, Best ask: 254.972, Bid-ask spread: 0.01600, Last trade: 254.972, 24 hour volume: 18007.40965, 24 hour low: 239.013, 24 hour high: 263.0, 24 hour vwap: 251.0065
mircea_popescu: Adlai web exchanges realligning to otc, what's the big deal ?
Adlai: the slippage :)
ben_vulpes: how can one align to otc
mircea_popescu: yeah well.
ben_vulpes: there's no price signal
Adlai: to learn of the otc, you must become otc
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2015 19:39:33; mircea_popescu: but that's less important. what's more important is, bitcoin has no price signal and you propose to do derivatives. well... got some questions to answer.
ben_vulpes: anyways, first sunny day in months and the hipsters set the badminton net up *smack* in the middle of the swamp
ben_vulpes: must be spring
ben_vulpes: meanwhile blizzard in nyc
thestringpuller: gonna be good snowboarding this week lol
thestringpuller: aspen niggas rubbin it in
assbot: WikiLeaks demands answers after Google hands staff emails to US government | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1yiIapm )
mircea_popescu: answers as in... what ? "yes, fuck you." ?
Adlai: for who will leak upon the leakers themselves/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00050033 = 11.5576 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "us company subsisting out of us fed subsidies fails to implement usg policy. is replaced with different one, nobody notices the difference."
mats: replaced? schmidt has been a USG cocksucker since day 1
mircea_popescu: that was kinda my point. what exactly would be the alternative here, google demures ? how.
mircea_popescu: the usg is not going to like people fucking up its shit. that's not changing. google isn't going to start acting like anything but a usg agent. that's also not changing. what are teh staffers in question expect will happen, or expected will have happened ?
mircea_popescu: what's next, ima write letters to the vessenes fake foundation about how their power rangers are fucking up bitcoin ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00050322 = 3.4471 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: might as well complain to the troika that they're pwning the periphery
pete_dushenski: or to apple that they're updates make everything worse
pete_dushenski: that's sorta the point of their continued existence
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what's next, ima write letters to the vessenes << Maybe it's because I have autism, but why would you write them letters when you can publicly condemn?
thestringpuller: "Dear Mr. Vessenes', You are a poop. Signed, mircea_popescu "
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5000 @ 0.00099881 = 4.9941 BTC [+] {10}
jurov: mircea can just twitterkill him
pete_dushenski: i can twitterkill vessenes
pete_dushenski: mp can't, gotta have twitter
thestringpuller: teach me twitter fu pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: patience, grasshopper
pete_dushenski: first, you must learn to scrub floors
pete_dushenski: then you must learn to clean dishes
pete_dushenski: then you must learn to sew clothes
pete_dushenski: then, and only then, will i teach you the ways of the internet
pete_dushenski: Andreessen Horowitz is heading up a $58 million round of investment in TransferWise
pete_dushenski: Founded in 2011 and built by ex-Skype and PayPal engineers with the aim of making it easier (read: cheaper) to transfer pounds to euros, TransferWise says that it will be using the funds to fuel its global expansion.
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: i love the jew fro.
thestringpuller: It's majestic af.
pete_dushenski: it definitely draws attention
jurov: such romance (*^*)
pete_dushenski: such fambly, this cult
thestringpuller: jurov: I think you mean bromance!
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: wait, you're a dude?!
thestringpuller: I think I'm going to fulfill my Volvo dream pete_dushenski cause of your blog post lol
pete_dushenski: see guise! blogging works!
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: you ever have a blog?
thestringpuller: anything I really post is on thestringpuller.tumblr.com
mats: tumblr blog. adorbs.
thestringpuller: I was thinking of that story I put in the comments of your post. ANd was like "Why not get a volvo? It's gonna outlast most bitcoin businesses while being 30 years old as is."
thestringpuller: mats: I KNO RITE. Not as adorable as my Xanga blog was.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: lmao i love that dylan scene from chappelle
pete_dushenski: "name da 5 best rappers of all time"
mats: whoa, xanga. i haven't seen that name in almost a decade.
pete_dushenski: "dylan, dylan, dylan, dylan, and dylan"
mats reflects on fond memories of social networks in early 2000
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: Yah! Because of people like Dylan, we can't have nice things.
thestringpuller: mats: Ya. My teenage school years. Such angst, such proto-social-networking.
thestringpuller: MySpace. Lawls.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell peterl hey can we get thestringpuller.tumblr.com added to bablogs?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: does your Benz take diesel?
pete_dushenski: eh no. it's not a tractor.
thestringpuller: Haven't really done my reading yet. XD
thestringpuller: My buddy had a diesel benz in high school. That thing was a beast, p. much a tractor, but man you could abuse that thing and it'd still show love 800 miles from home.
thestringpuller: I love cars like that. Shit you can drive in Siberia with 0 maintenance (like an asshole car owner), but the machine still chugs.
pete_dushenski: well i basically live in siberia with health care so i guess that makes saddam perfect
pete_dushenski: (my 560 is named "saddam" in case you missed that
thestringpuller: My buddy kept trying to convince me to get an E30 325 by BMW circa 1989
thestringpuller: which I admit is tempting, but in the same sense as candy is tempting ~_~
pete_dushenski: the e30 was built in an era when only entry-level cars failed completely after a few year
pete_dushenski: back then, the higher-end motors were expected to keep truckin' for decades
pete_dushenski: as they evidently have
pete_dushenski: of course, in the mid to late 90's, automakers figured out that all cars, regardless of upfront cost, should self-immolate after 10 years
pete_dushenski: if not sooner
thestringpuller: Ya. What's up with that?!?
pete_dushenski: ideally, from their perspective, cars would crap out as soon as the warranty expired
pete_dushenski: and have so many electrical gremlins that they'd be impossible to repair thereafter
thestringpuller: it's like Jobs' ideas behind the iPod
thestringpuller: warranty expires the day the battery dies
pete_dushenski: carmakers have been getting better and better at this
pete_dushenski: i think they're almost there
thestringpuller: some cars seem to be holding their own against the trend.
pete_dushenski: toyota, perhaps
thestringpuller: ya, mah girl has a Camry from 94-95 or something almost 200k miles on it and it runs fine. Road trip worthy and all.
pete_dushenski: but the increased homogeny between brands, a function of their sharing tier 1 and 2 suppliers, is hampering even the best of intentions
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: but that's a 20-year-old car now
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: yea but was crafted in mind 90's when the trend started
pete_dushenski: this is also why recalls are spanning unprecented numbers of cars, and stretching across brands at the same time
pete_dushenski: the japanese are slow
pete_dushenski: their morality is different
pete_dushenski: they have a culture of longevity
thestringpuller: thestringpuller: is hampering even the best of intentions << this is why tesla was able to get through even with mafia style racket in place.
thestringpuller: They are hedging on parts outlasting the warranty tho.
pete_dushenski: tesla is an interesting case study in incentives
mats: a reading of 'Consumer Reports' from some years ago suggests that cars are lasting longer...
pete_dushenski: obama needed a poster child, and tesla has definitely been one of his success stories
thestringpuller: ^- i kno rite
pete_dushenski: the company is entirely dependent on government subsidies
thestringpuller: i hate that tho. that there fame lies in that rather than just pure industry.
thestringpuller: and also "welfare"
pete_dushenski: consumer reports is "independent" but hardly impervious to cajoling
thestringpuller: tesla's suppliers are definitely trying to reverse the quality trend
pete_dushenski: the tesla model s couldn't have been anything other than "the best piece of engineering since apollo 11"
thestringpuller: such hyperbole
thestringpuller: but like the modern Maybach i.e.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: it's in the interest of the suppliers to ensure that they have business in the future
thestringpuller: rap couldn't truly save the maybach, but it's one of those dream cars that actually fulfills the dream from my limited experience at least.
pete_dushenski: the modernest of the maybachs is just an s-class trim line now
thestringpuller: yah the most modern. i was speaking druing the infancy of maybach music
thestringpuller: the maybach that picked up lil wayne from prison etc.
pete_dushenski: the last one was bespoke, but a dud compared to the phantom
thestringpuller: ^- this is why jeezy doesn't ride in maybachs
thestringpuller: which is interesting
pete_dushenski: ya i don't get the maybach at all
thestringpuller: didn't know you were the channel car guy, but again guess I haven't done my reading
pete_dushenski: maybe it's too arriviste for me
pete_dushenski: lol i didn't exactly advertise it
pete_dushenski: besides, onions are more interesting to hang out with ;)
thestringpuller: well it's dope cause I love working on automotive machiens
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski> mp can't, gotta have twitter << twitter, this single shot rifle
mircea_popescu: sorta like a broom
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: but you can ride brooms and play quidditch and stuff
pete_dushenski: more like a mop, really
mircea_popescu: mats> whoa, xanga. i haven't seen that name in almost a decade. << that azn chick still blogs on it.
pete_dushenski: twitter: soggy, used mostly by intellectual janitors. yup, that'd be a mop
mats: who?
BingoBoingo: I live. Got hooked into judging at a college debate tournament this weekend for quick fiat and an anthropological study of the reddit derp in the physical world.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite lol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo hey this was a shitty bender.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: i totally forgot.
mircea_popescu: bet pool was giving you like a week an shit
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Only drank Friday night. Saturday night my loss of faith in the USian college leaders of the future pushed me into unassisted slumber.
mircea_popescu: eh don't judge the kids too harshy
mircea_popescu: they're virgins.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is growing into the "nice grandpa" and not grumpy old man.
mats: good one
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: toy car radio remote.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I actually got to hear it argued today that manned spaceflight is bad, because science is aligned against queer people and because science is aligned against queer people we should embrace human extinction.
BingoBoingo: I did not get to judge that round, but the nihilist "won"
mircea_popescu: did he win a .22 ?
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe if I had a ballot that round.
BingoBoingo: On the plus side I also got to judge speech events, which meant I literally got to watch minstrel shows and liberals were ok with it.
BingoBoingo: !up moldysnizz
moldysnizz: I really need to dig out my old workstation for my other signing keys. It would be nice to be back on the WoT
BingoBoingo: If I were drunk though I prolly would have IRC'd on the hostile campus wifi. I am so happy to have civilized internet again.
moldysnizz: BingoBoingo, have yo had a chance to watch "The Rise and Rise of Bitcoin"?
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BingoBoingo: moldysnizz: Nope, life is too short.
moldysnizz: *chuckle* I rather enjoyed it.
BingoBoingo: I might see it eventually. I am just so thrilled though that yesterday I got to watch actual minstrel shows performed for free.
moldysnizz: =D How'd that come to be?
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2015 02:05:42; BingoBoingo: I live. Got hooked into judging at a college debate tournament this weekend for quick fiat and an anthropological study of the reddit derp in the physical world.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22956 @ 0.00050596 = 11.6148 BTC [+]
moldysnizz: oo fun!
moldysnizz: flask?
pete_dushenski: Anti-austerity Syriza party has won Greece's general election, putting the country on a possible collision course with the EU over its massive bailout.
pete_dushenski: default time in the land of olive oil ?
BingoBoingo: moldysnizz: If I did it again...
ben_vulpes: wb BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Howdy.
BingoBoingo: Imma spend a few hours now reading trilema and listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd to get the liberal brainwashing out.
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: screenshots of programs that come with the #b-a distro by default.
ben_vulpes: how've you been? what've you been doing?
gabriel_laddel: I've been well enough. Working on the same project.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: macsyma ?
asciilifeform: !s macsyma
assbot: 3 results for 'macsyma' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=macsyma
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: yep.
gabriel_laddel: but with true3d plotting
ben_vulpes: mlol i was talking to BingoBoingo, but same goes for you as well
ben_vulpes: glad to see your distro in channel
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: lol thanks.
ben_vulpes: care to talk a little more about this distro upon which you've been working?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: We have a distro nao?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Infiltrating IRL reddit.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: I'm working on one, yes.
gabriel_laddel: Built on top of funtoo
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Must build on Vax.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I'll write something up now
ben_vulpes: neat stuff
ben_vulpes: !rate gabrial_laddel 1 not really new blood any more
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ben_vulpes: !rate gabriel_laddel 1 not really new blood any more
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gabriel_laddel: yeah I need to get on that.
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ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: still have those keys?
gabriel_laddel: destroyed in a failed backup :/
ben_vulpes: ah, sux.
ben_vulpes: best time to plant a tree and all that
gabriel_laddel: though from a rating perspective, I don't think it matters if I wait until I release the distro
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: again, best time to plant a tree.
ben_vulpes: no sense putting it off.
ben_vulpes: victory goes not to those who are merely decisive of mind, but only to those who are also swift of action.
thestringpuller: ^- Always in a rush to the grave.
thestringpuller: "Stay awhile and listen" :)
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell nubbins' https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935115.msg10257245#msg10257245 << Why would a professional cabinet maker do it to "put himself through college"
assbot: Videos of WoodCollector Hand Carving: Care of MOB ... ( http://bit.ly/15yDBAp )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: HAND GUIDED router << anyone who works with power shapers knows better than to hand guide a router
BingoBoingo: Also... I smoke cigarettes a lot of places, but anywhere I'm generating a bunch of woodshavings is not that place.
punkman: pete_dushenski: default time in the land of olive oil ? << that was years ago
pete_dushenski: myea, well this'd be part infinity in that story
pete_dushenski: i agree, no one particularly cares if greece goes the way of atlantis
punkman: 50-60% voter turnout, all-time low
pete_dushenski: we'll remember their contribution just as fondly
pete_dushenski: off to a late dinner, chip chip cheerio and all that
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punkman: "Alexis Tsipras is a tin-pot communist. May his time in power be short and his actions easily revocable."
punkman: oh man the spain-tards sure love this guy
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: I've actually done very little development for this dirtro. Most of my time has been spent finding perfect little individual peices and assembling them. Out of the box it has:
gabriel_laddel: - documentation (current borked b/c of gentoo's USE flag problems - cyclic dependencies)
gabriel_laddel: - Conkeror browser hooked up to parenscript.
gabriel_laddel: - the best GUI library available on current architectures (CLIM - Commmon Lisp Interface Manager).
gabriel_laddel: - millions LoC less than the browser, at least 10x more expressive.
gabriel_laddel: - based on funtoo, sources for all programs are included by default.
gabriel_laddel: - symbolic algebra via Maxima
gabriel_laddel: - 3D plotting facilities (animation, zooming etc.) No gnuplot or browser hackery.
gabriel_laddel: - state saving and restoration (currently broken)
gabriel_laddel: - lesson system
gabriel_laddel: - habit system
gabriel_laddel: - dashboard that reports e.g., LoC for the entire system.
gabriel_laddel: - js->ps transpiler (needs work)
gabriel_laddel: The browser, window manager, gui library and emacs are all connected to the same common lisp process and are explorable at runtime. Conkeror is based on Emacs and shares some of the same conceptual foundation, thus, the whole experience feels very lispy. The lessons system is 'dialed-in'. For example, you can specify that the user is to scroll to 80% of a particular URL, at which point you want the windows arranged
gabriel_laddel: 1/2 emacs 1/2 clim gui and XYZ files open with a (emacs) window arrangement just so.
gabriel_laddel: The state saving facility allows for saving saving and restoration of all URLs, scroll locations, files and window arrangement on a whim. CLIM gui applications that obey the recommended architecture can also trivially plug into this system.
gabriel_laddel: There are several other things that simply "make sense", but have somehow not found their way into mainstream linux. One of which is the dashboard. Currently it lists how many lisp LoC and projects are running on the entire machine. It also manages the habits system and allows for one to say, practice mathematics for 1 hours a day without fail, at which point it restores the state prior to starting the habit.
gabriel_laddel: All state is saved via persistent CLOS by default.
gabriel_laddel: no explicit transactions etc. necessary. Just `setf' the state of the object in question.
asciilifeform: state saving and restoration << sbcl's 'save world and die' ?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: Nope. Though I should include that. The state saving is for files, window layouts, urls and their scroll locations.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: iirc that SBCL functionality needs some work before it is ready for production.
BingoBoingo is sarcastic when says needs to build on VAX, prolly should though.
BingoBoingo needs to get a working VAX
gabriel_laddel: If anyone has requests for things they'd like to see in a dream distro. Let me know.
thestringpuller: gabriel_laddel: A copy of SimCity 2000 built in.
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: systemd
ben_vulpes: seriously though, sounds great. can't wait to give it a whirl.
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asciilifeform: what's a habit system ?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: say that you want to write a Captain's Log each day before going to sleep. Masamune formalizes this.
gabriel_laddel: And adds to it, e.g., when you start your daily mathematics practice it will pull up the previous state from where you left off.
ben_vulpes: is this a thing you wrote?
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: yes.
danielpbarron: !up badbitcoinadmin
gabriel_laddel: Oh, I should note - no systemd.
punkman: badbitcoinadmin: did you steal all the coinz?
ben_vulpes: i was just joking, gabriel_laddel
ben_vulpes: but that's awesome
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I realize that, but no systemd should be considered a feature IMO. One I forgot to list.
badbitcoinadmin: punkman this is a role account for badbitcoin.org
badbitcoinadmin: badbitcoin.org is a specialty site taht focuses on tracking various coin scams & those running them
asciilifeform: lol! same 'badbitcoin' that was funded by gaw ?
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punkman: oh so he did steal all the coinz
punkman: badbitcoinadmin: are you in the wot? why "role account"?
BingoBoingo is about to crash into sleep, someone else is going to have to take up !b sniping duties.
badbitcoinadmin: This account squats & logs #badbitcoin
BingoBoingo: So... what does account do here then?
punkman: so you are gonna track all the HYIP scams that take bitcoin?
punkman: why bother
badbitcoinadmin: right now, this was first thing I found that was set up for Freenode
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: do you know of any information about AMD Opteron's k8 microcode or the chip in question? I found http://www.securiteam.com/securityreviews/5FP0M1PDFO.html but nothing else on the matter. Also, do you know of a better place to ask this question? I'm not a haxx0r.
danielpbarron: !gettrust badbitcoinadmin
assbot: badbitcoinadmin is not registered in WoT.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: afaik, nothing has ever leaked re: the microcode structure. all that is known is how to invoke the updater, the approximate structure of the blob, and the fact that - unlike intel's - there is no crypto/authentication
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: hence, one might learn something by trial and error (entirely possible to smoke the chip, sure.)
assbot: Please To PGP (Guide for Linux, OS X, Windows) | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9zSKw )
badbitcoinadmin: I am familiar with PGP, but only have a few contacts who use it. What's next?
danielpbarron: instructions on how to register your key with assbot and other commands are here -> http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
assbot: irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9AwrE )
badbitcoinadmin: OK, I see, some crypto hoops to jump through. Might not do it until tomorrow, looks straightforward enough.
decimation: re: wikileaks << it's pretty lulzy that the 'staff' idiots were using third party mail providers anyway
assbot: Dolphin Emulator - Compatibility List - page # ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9Ckka )
asciilifeform thought that this could have been an emulator for the xerox dolphin, very disappointed
assbot: Logged on 25-01-2015 19:42:05; ben_vulpes: i've seen windows 3.1 in javascript...
assbot: The Emularity « ASCII by Jason Scott ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9CuIs )
asciilifeform: punkman: the x86-in-js emulator is at least 2 years old, and is about as interesting as a full-sized replica of the eiffel tower made from toothpicks.
asciilifeform: which is to say, you might admire the patience of the maker, but at the end of the day, the only question is - 'why?'
mats: ;;seen MisterE
gribble: MisterE was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 41 weeks, 2 days, 10 hours, 39 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <MisterE> Deer Hunter was masterpiece
punkman: asciilifeform: archive.org's has an impressive number of emulators that will work in browsers, I think that's nice
punkman: of course the real hero is http://www.mess.org/
assbot: Welcome to the MESS Wiki! [MESS] ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9DHzt )
punkman: "supports 962 unique systems"
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Imma spend a few hours now reading trilema and listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd to get the liberal brainwashing out. << i lollered.
asciilifeform: the 'let's run complex proggies in the browser' thing is monumentally retarded. esp. in light of how it actually works in practice (e.g. js and its all-numerics-are-floats, etc)
punkman: yeah I can't disagree with that
asciilifeform: 'let's use machine whose architecture is in no sense standardized, with approx. the performance of a 486 dx-100'
mircea_popescu: it's fun!!1
mircea_popescu: standards are racist. the spec is the code. WE ARE BRINGING STUFF TO AFRICA
mircea_popescu: economists agree. i have heard from entrepreneurs. we'll discuss it in san jose
mircea_popescu: someone should make a gavin retardobot
asciilifeform: when do we get africa brought to these folks.
thestringpuller: ;;calc 5/12
gribble: 0.416666666667
asciilifeform: preferably maximally armed, demented africa
asciilifeform: preferably - to san jose
mircea_popescu: that's not really africa, we'll call it isis
mircea_popescu: !up colonel32
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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: anyone who works with power shapers knows better than to hand guide a router << it was hand guided by a robotic hand.
punkman: !up coderwill
coderwill: thanks punkman
coderwill: good evening/morning everyone :)
decimation: gabriel_laddel: sounds like an interesting os, would be worth a spin
coderwill: afternoon too, oops.
coderwill: mircea_popescu: saw your reply RE: circle, yeah, it's almost like they want to be a venmo or square pay now or something
mircea_popescu: they want to be whatever takes no work and provides no service.
mircea_popescu: basically, they wish to be one of those vc scams where "it can't be proven they have no market share" and so... safe investment.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel you might have something there.
punkman: mircea_popescu: which dic are you?
mircea_popescu: i dunno it crapped out and gave me straight php code instead of executing it
mircea_popescu: $temp) { $loadpage = "Stalin"; $temp = $Stalin;} if ($Blair > $temp) { $loadpage = "Blair"; $temp = $Blair;} if ($Hitler > $temp) { $loadpage = "Hitler"; $temp = $Hitler;} if ($Bush > $temp) { $loadpage = "Bush"; $temp = $Bush;} if ($Hussein > $temp) { $loadpage = "Hussein"; $temp = $Hussein;} if ($Omar > $temp) { $loadpage = "Omar"; $temp = $Omar;} if ($Castro > $temp) { $loadpage = "Castro"; $temp = $Castro;} if ($Ma
mircea_popescu: o > $temp) { $loadpage = "Mao"; $temp = $Mao;} if ($Milosevic > $temp) { $loadpage = "Milosevic"; } include("http://www.poisonedminds.com/tests/dic/" . $loadpage . ".html"); ?>
mircea_popescu: !up badbitcoinadmin
mircea_popescu: what do you think a "role account" is ?
coderwill: i wonder how they will monetize
mircea_popescu: coderwill considering this is perhaps the 8th or 9th attempt, and all the previous ones monetized in the vessenes manner (whitewashing services for scammers)...
punkman: coderwill, so you work at blockchain.info?
coderwill: no, i quit back in september
punkman: ah smart move
mircea_popescu: are they cutting back on personnel too /
coderwill: i don't think so, it appears they are hiring after closing the round
punkman: did employees get any equity?
coderwill: no, not when i was there it was very strange
coderwill: there were promises of equity but nothing official that i saw (other than verbal)
punkman: !rate coderwill 1 for #b-a voice
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coderwill: thanks
coderwill: people may have some type of vesting now that they announced they had that 30 million raise, i don't know though
mats: 20 to 30 inches of snow anticipated... wtf
coderwill: it's snowmageddon :)
mats: its hilarious that anyone wanted to pay so much as 1mn for blockchain.info
coderwill: i heard it might be the most snow ever for new york city
mircea_popescu: mats two feet in mass.
mats: ya. 75mph gusts anticipated
mats: o_O
mircea_popescu: anyway, everyone was driving their fuel supplies down
mircea_popescu: heating the nw may be problematic.
mats: that reminds me, i should stock up on food and water
coderwill: it's strange, we are having these crazy "polar vortexes" (last year) and now potentially record snow in new york, and earlier this year in buffalo
decimation: re: earlier conversation on the 'need' to travel >> http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2011/09/travel-and-mind.html << " Warnie Lewis, a leading expert on Versailles, never visited Versailles."
assbot: Bruce Charlton's Miscellany: Travel and the mind ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9H0Xw )
assbot: So /McDonalds is goin to start accepting a random type currency soon.. I wonder it its /search?q=%24btc&src=ctag /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash
punkman: balmy 15C here, no winter for me :P
punkman: well I did get 0.1 inch of snow few weeks ago
coderwill: i just saw a link the other day that at the same time, 2014 was the warmest year on record - also, something that in the last 10 years a ridiculous amount of warm weather records have been broken
mats: g-g-global warming!
coderwill: wild time to be alive no doubt
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decimation: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2915061/Nasa-climate-scientists-said-2014-warmest-year-record-38-sure-right.html
decimation: "As a result, GISS’s director Gavin Schmidt has now admitted Nasa thinks the likelihood that 2014 was the warmest year since 1880 is just 38 per cent. However, when asked by this newspaper whether he regretted that the news release did not mention this, he did not respond." < lol daily mail
coderwill: interesting
mircea_popescu: decimation "leading expert in english"
mircea_popescu: punkman it's about 28 here.
mircea_popescu: coderwill the "warmest year" bs is just that.
assbot: Clarification: Hottest Year story ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9HP2r )
decimation: "The story also reported that 2014 was the hottest year on record, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA, but did not include the caveat that other recent years had average temperatures that were almost as high — and they all fall within a margin of error that lessens the certainty that any one of the years was the hottest."
punkman: mircea_popescu: does BA ever get below 0C?
mircea_popescu: punkman not in recorded history.
mircea_popescu: *note = other chicks photographed also hot ; exactly how hot is disputed.
decimation: also, there's a large margin of error, but we are really sure that there's a trend here
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: any thoughts re: whether we want an upgrade mechanism in the toy node ?
decimation: asciilifeform: gonna burn some fuses?
mircea_popescu: specifically no.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was my thought.
asciilifeform: because guess who is certain to ask 'install upgrade plz'
mircea_popescu: if there's some sort of hole put in deliberately,
mircea_popescu: 90% of its utility/planned use is surrepetitious "upgrades"
asciilifeform: we could conceivably 'tivoize' the thing
mircea_popescu: person wants to upgrade, torch the box set up a new one.
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mircea_popescu: nah, let the owner be in control.
mircea_popescu: but THE OWNER.
asciilifeform: wasn't even thinking of remote upgrade, but local (insert image on stick)
coderwill: speaking of BA, i like the work this design company puts out down there: https://aerolab.co/
assbot: Aerolab - Design and Development for Startups and Leading Brands ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9IAZt )
decimation: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/january/25/adios-cuba/ << " Now, the lame duck Obama administration has finally figured out how to put an end to Cuba’s Communist system: human wave attacks by hordes of American tourists in loud golf wear yelling “USA, USA!” and waving Visa cards." "Cubans are not ready for loud, aggressive tourists shoving money in their faces. Nor are these easy-going islanders
decimation: mentally prepared for tens of thousands of pushy New Yorkers (I’m also one) or overly emotional Miami Cubans who think they are returning royalty. Waves of carpetbaggers will pour in trying to buy everything that isn’t nailed down with their gringo dollars. Every Cuban exile sees himself as the next El Presidente."
coderwill: mircea_popescu: re: warmest year stuff, yeah, not sold on it either, the weather does seem strange though
coderwill: mircea_popescu: maybe just cylical on a timespan that's not being well perceived
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the flip side of the medal is that these things are not the least bit difficult to reprogram. i can easily picture the phoundation distributing an 'upgrader' anyway
coderwill: e.g. 10 years ago, hurricanes were everywhere in the gulf of mexico, now there are very few
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most that can be done is to button it up so that replacing bootloader requires soldering on the missing uart pins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00052478 = 2.3615 BTC [+]
hanbot: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, cazalla, mircea_popescu, qntra folks: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/01/23/barrett-browns-prison-time-raises-cybersecurity-journalism-concerns << today this fella went off to jail. << yknow the article only mentions it in passing, but apparently the guy fucked around with an fbi agent. i'd wager the shit he's in has more to do with that than posting w/e link. how many others posted links or even hosted the
assbot: Barrett Brown's Prison Time Raises Cybersecurity, Journalism Concerns - US News ... ( http://bit.ly/1L9JPaQ )
hanbot: stuff themselves? and yet, he's the one in jail.
asciilifeform: hanbot: for various reasons, brown was a good 'example to be made'
asciilifeform: and yes, he is probably guilty of, among other things, insulting a loyal servant of the crown.
coderwill: sheesh, that's pretty scary
asciilifeform: probably even of 'lèse-majesté'.
hanbot: i somehow doubt it's as much a piece of hay in the stack as all that. you piss someone off enough, they'll find what with to beat you.
hanbot: i'm only surprised it wasn't another "child pornography" circus
asciilifeform: can't use the same six words to hang every honest man.
asciilifeform: gotta have some variety.
punkman: good thing everyone's dumpingall their thoughts on twitter and facebook
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