assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3207 @ 0.00052122 = 1.6716 BTC [+]
    
    BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You did indeed. THey plan on withdrawals... later
    
    mircea_popescu: ah
    
    rithm: withdrawals enabled after x balance amirite
    
    rithm: get that revenue first
    
    rithm: ok ok maybe withdrawals enabled never
    
    
    
    assbot: “/BBoingo: /benjammingh I use GPG, you suck a big bag of dicks. /thegrugq”< http://t.co/MnynJ1pjzW
    
    
    
    assbot: Louis CK Suck a Bag of Dicks - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DS7W97 )
    
    
    
    assbot: /marymad /BBoingo /benjammingh more dick that you can shake a stick at.
    
    
    
    assbot: Did pools scare Satoshi away? ... ( http://bit.ly/1DS8Pia )
    
    mircea_popescu: oh yeah, that tidbit.
    
    mircea_popescu: "Bruce Wagner : When was the last time you chatted to satoshi <laugh>
    
    mircea_popescu: Gavin Andresen: Um... I haven't had email from satoshi in a couple months actually. The last email I sent him I actually told him I was going to talk at the CIA. So it's possible , that.... that may have um had something to with his deciding"
    
    mircea_popescu: i suppose the part where satoshi pretty much left because he couldn't believe just how fucking idiotic gavin is doesn't really make the cut of what reddit likes to discuss huh.
    
    BingoBoingo: Honestly probing satoshi's binaries. He started BTC with dumb ideas. Not implementing those dumb ideas and discouraging other people from the same was his legacy.
    
    BingoBoingo: The thing is... Agent Broachwala showing up at your doorstep won't make you persona non-grata, but cooperating with agent Broachwala will
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00050424 = 7.2106 BTC [-]
    
    BingoBoingo: !up TomServo
    
    BingoBoingo: So, in a tremendous blow for liberty Ohio State won the College football championship tonight.
    
    TomServo: Thanks BingoBoingo
    
    BingoBoingo: Yw
    
    rithm: BingoBoingo mizzou is doing a hell of a good job in the sec
    
    BingoBoingo: rithm: Thanks. My biggest surprise is they surrendered on orange ball.
    
    rithm: urban meyer is a ig phony though he left florida for "his family"
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00051122 = 3.4763 BTC [+]
    
    rithm: now he's off winngin championships in ohio
    
    BingoBoingo: Urban Meyer is legit. Just his flaw is convincing people Ohio is habitable.
    
    BingoBoingo: The20Year committed the same sin.
    
    cazalla: mircea_popescu, been around a long time so i doubt it, from what i read the customer support are just clueless and withdrawals are not enabled yet.. they're working on getting the money in, worry about letting people getting it out later lol
    
    BingoBoingo: Now, sure SEC west was overrated this year apparently, but SEC East was hella under rated
    
    mircea_popescu: cazalla they been arounbd a long time with no withdraws ?
    
    mircea_popescu: i never heard of em myself
    
    cazalla: cash withdraws ok afaik
    
    cazalla: just this bitcoin thing, not so much
    
    BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Fiat operation. Apprently they impolemented the wrong side first
    
    
    
    mircea_popescu: oic
    
    cazalla: ACR was doyle's room from memory until poker ban and then doyle had his name scrubbed from it
    
    mircea_popescu: yaya
    
    mircea_popescu: now it clicked
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.000501 = 13.7525 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
    
    BingoBoingo: felipelalli: U got voice nao
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00051122 = 2.505 BTC [+]
    
    felipelalli: cex.io pausing mining: what do you guys think about it?
    
    BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Cex.io was very big at exactly the same time inputs.io was big. My feeling is that it was predatory the whole time.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4248 @ 0.00081155 = 3.4475 BTC [-] {22} 
    
    felipelalli: thank you BingoBoingo. Are you guys going to write something about it in qntra.net?
    
    BingoBoingo: I have no immediate plans to write on that, but if CEX dies completely...
    
    cazalla: felipelalli, i did, i don't know enough about CEX to call it either way but fact network continues to grow without them raising some questions
    
    tripleslash: people still buying AM?
    
    cazalla: raises.. i mean
    
    tripleslash: cazalla, how long have they been suspended?
    
    tripleslash: a few days?
    
    tripleslash: its too early to say network is still growing.
    
    cazalla: announcement said they would suspend miners after the next diff change which was this morning
    
    tripleslash: right
    
    tripleslash: so until next diffchange, its impossible to say whether network is growing or shrinking
    
    cazalla: tripleslash, you would see it in hash rate eh?
    
    tripleslash: right now its all luck
    
    tripleslash: there's a reson difficulty isnt changed each block
    
    tripleslash: reason*
    
    tripleslash: joecool, everyone's favorite cool joe
    
    tripleslash: !up joecool
    
    tripleslash: !up tripleslash
    
    cazalla: tripleslash, yeah i know, i just don't really care enough about these guys to go chasing up the current hash rate and doing some math to figure out if a 12-24 hour drop is because they turned miners off or if no drop in hash rate proves they never had miners to begin with
    
    tripleslash: 12-24 hours isn't enough time
    
    tripleslash: you're missing the whole point
    
    cazalla: i don't think so but please, explain
    
    tripleslash: its impossible to conclusively say a drop/gain in network hash was attributable to them unless you know every other single source of mining and know the reported stats on them
    
    tripleslash: specifically in a 12 hour window
    
    cazalla: yeah i know there is nothing conclusive which is why i did not include anything about that in my article, i just included that they claim 300k users instead
    
    tripleslash: give it a diffchange, perhaps, but then you'd have to somehow figure out a way to exclude anyone else that might be dropping out because of the sagging exchange price
    
    tripleslash: 300k users means nothing
    
    tripleslash: a user might have 1khash of power
    
    cazalla: except they claim 40 petahash
    
    tripleslash: ok
    
    cazalla: are you a customer of theirs or something?
    
    tripleslash: so watch for a noticeable permanenent 40 petahash drop over the next few difffchanges
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6009 @ 0.00050022 = 3.0058 BTC [-]
    
    tripleslash: not at all
    
    tripleslash: I think they are a scam
    
    tripleslash: but that doesn't mean I'm ok with you using fuzzy math to justify it
    
    BingoBoingo: tripleslash: Do you know someone selling 40 PH/s of equipment...
    
    cazalla: i didn't use any math tripleslash
    
    tripleslash: lol BingoBoingo
    
    tripleslash: cazalla: no math?  that's the only way you prove they've dropped off.
    
    cazalla: i specifically avoided it in the article because these fucks claim all sorts and i've better things to do than chase my own tail
    
    tripleslash sighs
    
    BingoBoingo: People who fell for Tradefortress and CEX.io have a strong overlap.
    
    tripleslash: haven't heard TF in a long time
    
    BingoBoingo: If... Someone can come forward with a lot of PH/s for sale... I can't say I am incapable of bidding.
    
    tripleslash: Anyone is capable of bidding...
    
    BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli
    
    tripleslash: doesn't mean their bid will amount to much.
    
    cazalla: perhaps they even have the hardware but instead of switching it off, they'll just continue to mine with hardware that customers paid for, who knows
    
    tripleslash: exactly
    
    tripleslash: but you certainly can't figure that out based on the number of blocks generated in the next 12 hours.
    
    tripleslash: I think they were skimming hash off their pool and reselling.
    
    cazalla: all i said was that it might raise some questions about whether what they claim is fact or lie
    
    ben_vulpes: hey i finally caught up to this morning
    
    tripleslash: Do I have any conclusive proof? no.
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;ident felipelalli
    
    gribble: Nick 'felipelalli', with hostmask 'felipelalli!~Thunderbi@201.82.158.149', is not identified.
    
    cazalla: i never claimed or stated it would be definitive
    
    tripleslash: as we all know, mining contracts have always sucked for the buyer.
    
    tripleslash: so why write articles based on no math and make no claims as to accuracy
    
    tripleslash: might as well write for the onion
    
    felipelalli: ;;eauth felipelalli
    
    gribble: Request successful for user felipelalli, hostmask felipelalli!~Thunderbi@201.82.158.149. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/4C0AFCCFED5CDE14
    
    cazalla: tripleslash, i didn't!
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11887 @ 0.00051319 = 6.1003 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    cazalla: the article wasn't based on no math.. it was based on what cex said on their blog and their website and i finished it by saying that despite these cloud miners being fucked, the network goes on with or without them anyway
    
    tripleslash: I'm glad I didn't waste my time reading it then.
    
    undata: oh please
    
    felipelalli: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:eaf2aaef1f3da52c021a173631aab57a159f9ba5fb9633c70bc5411f
    
    gribble: You are now authenticated for user felipelalli with key 4C0AFCCFED5CDE14
    
    BingoBoingo: tripleslash: If only you had the slightest idea who may ot may not be qntra's BitPay layoff source
    
    felipelalli: ;;ident felipelalli
    
    gribble: Nick 'felipelalli', with hostmask 'felipelalli!~Thunderbi@201.82.158.149', is identified as user 'felipelalli', with GPG key id 4C0AFCCFED5CDE14, key fingerprint 9E08524833CB3038FDE385C54C0AFCCFED5CDE14, and bitcoin address 1LipeR1AjHL6gwE7WQECW4a2H4tuqm768N
    
    undata: the article is mostly a quotation...
    
    ben_vulpes: "I wanted to spend my bitcoin immediately, that very night, but I was at a loss." << the fiat mindset's strong with these folk
    
    BingoBoingo: I am nigger man, chasing the prey through the bread fruit plants
    
    cazalla: undata, the cex portion really only served as a means to discuss the new difficulty all time high anyway
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;rate felipelalli 2 easy come easy go
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user felipelalli has been recorded.
    
    undata: cazalla: this guy just wants to yell at someone
    
    cazalla: undata, i want to yell at someone too so it works out
    
    tripleslash: BingoBoingo, I missed that.  I've been away for a while, catching up.
    
    felipelalli: ;;rate BingoBoingo 2 very nice guy, received me very well, congratulations.
    
    gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded.
    
    BingoBoingo: imsaguy Are you harassing cazalla???
    
    tripleslash: nope.  I was attempting to demonstrate why 12 hours isn't enough time to accurately measure hashrate, but apparently failed.
    
    BingoBoingo: tripleslash: Do you have any artistic talents?
    
    tripleslash: stumping for con artists was a past hobby of mine, although I didn't know it at the time.
    
    cazalla: tripleslash, i already agreed, merely pointed out it could be an indicator, one piece of the puzzle so to speak if one was inclined to dig further, which i am not
    
    tripleslash: 12 hours isn't really an indicator.  its like flipping a coin one time to figure out if it is balanced.
    
    ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> a bum, like a total, street dwelling bum, accosts some random guy begging. and the random guy goes like "ain't got nothing now", and hands him his coke bottle. << ok so i've got this crazy pet notion about maté and viral load
    
    BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: If it counbteracts my model of ETOH and CYP load...
    
    ben_vulpes: CYP?
    
    BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: CYP 450 motherfucker
    
    BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: It is a toxic waste processing plant in your body... and you can't get rid of it.
    
    ben_vulpes: hm
    
    ben_vulpes: ah
    
    ben_vulpes: well
    
    tripleslash: :;rate BingoBoingo 1 ratings taint
    
    ben_vulpes: bb quick fork your ratingchain
    
    ben_vulpes: you can now double your ratecoins
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1964 @ 0.0005152 = 1.0119 BTC [+]
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;rate tripleslash 2 ratings fistula
    
    gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
    
    BingoBoingo: ).o
    
    ben_vulpes: (dun really think the two models would interact much, but also i don't know much microbio)
    
    tripleslash: ;;ident
    
    gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'tripleslash', with hostmask 'tripleslash!\\\@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
    
    felipelalli: Let me ask you guys a (stupid?) question: "hidden hash power" can be a problem? Suppose I start to invest in mining hardware but I do not turn on my machines. No one will know I am accumulating hash power. So, after a while, if I turn on all my machines I'd have - let's imagine - 80% of the hash rate. But it would be too late to revert the situation by the community. If big miners start to turn the machines off, they can not be hiding power?
    
    felipelalli: Makes sense?
    
    BingoBoingo: Maybe? The thing is an raw hashpower measure gets messy.
    
    BingoBoingo: As opposed to awesome like Messi
    
    tripleslash: felipelalli, if you were to say double the hashrate overnight, it would be hard for the "community" to counter it overnight.
    
    tripleslash: you'd essentially have a narrow window where you could have an easier time manipulating things, but the technicals of mining and others miners would catch up.
    
    felipelalli: nice to hear that, thank you!
    
    tripleslash: there are no absoluates
    
    tripleslash: absolutes
    
    tripleslash: you could have ~50% of the hashrate and still only find 10% of the blocks
    
    tripleslash: or you could have 10% of the hashrate and find 50% of the blocks.
    
    tripleslash: both, while improbable, are possible.
    
    tripleslash: !up felipelalli
    
    tripleslash: its all probability
    
    
    
    assbot: So /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash didn't work. Good work banks! We all will still work to end you, only now we have nothing to lose. Neat combination.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7590 @ 0.00052518 = 3.9861 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
    
    gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 248.0, vol: 23822.55536478 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 243.188, vol: 20785.56201 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 247.29, vol: 70293.34335111 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 258.08, vol: 23.70575198 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 244.087225, vol: 133366.70640000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 250.001, vol: 83.00877437 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 254.5385, vol: 145.39958649 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
    
    
    
    assbot:  ... ( http://bit.ly/14TNkRK )
    
    BingoBoingo: !up badon
    
    BingoBoingo: badon: Are you really losing atm measuring in iz???
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00051309 = 11.4932 BTC [-] {3} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00053461 = 3.2879 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    BingoBoingo: !up jordandotdev
    
    BingoBoingo: !up JorgePasada
    
    punkman: god morgen
    
    BingoBoingo: Guuten Morgen
    
    BingoBoingo: !up nam-shub
    
    badon: BingoBoingo: Eh?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17494 @ 0.0005412 = 9.4678 BTC [+]
    
    badon: Losing "atm"?
    
    BingoBoingo: badon: At the moment
    
    punkman: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/bpa-alternative-disrupts-normal-brain-cell-growth-is-tied-to-hyperactivity-study-says/2015/01/12/a9ecc37e-9a7e-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html?hpid=z5
    
    assbot: BPA alternative disrupts normal brain-cell growth, is tied to hyperactivity, study says - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1waCKft )
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2447 @ 0.00054122 = 1.3244 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    punkman: http://samy.pl/keysweeper/  "KeySweeper is a  stealthy Arduino-based device, camouflaged as a functioning USB wall  charger, that wirelessly and passively sniffs, decrypts, logs and  reports back (over GSM) all keystrokes from any Microsoft wireless  keyboard in the vicinity."
    
    assbot: KeySweeper ... ( http://bit.ly/1waCVas )
    
    BingoBoingo: Punk you know that sounds a lot like HS rules
    
    punkman: HS?
    
    BingoBoingo: High school
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17180 @ 0.00054127 = 9.299 BTC [+]
    
    punkman: re: uranium http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/these-people-love-to-collect-radioactive-glass/
    
    assbot: These People Love to Collect Radioactive Glass. Are They Nuts? | Collectors Weekly ... ( http://bit.ly/1waDe5b )
    
    punkman: "Boyd’s used its 15-pound allotments (the maximum amount of uranium the  company was allowed to keep on hand at any given moment)"
    
    BingoBoingo: punkman: When Uncle vince pisses tumors... Family matters
    
    punkman: I have a couple old, very slightly radioactive camera lenses
    
    BingoBoingo: Nothing hurts as bad as the follow up to that particulat cancer.
    
    BingoBoingo: '
    
    BingoBoingo: Ow. Stabbing the sides.
    
    cazalla: punkman: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/bpa-alternative-disrupts-normal-brain-cell-growth-is-tied-to-hyperactivity-study-says/2015/01/12/a9ecc37e-9a7e-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html?hpid=z5 <<< took me ages to find glass bottles for the missus to put her expressed milk into, everything is fucking plastic
    
    assbot: BPA alternative disrupts normal brain-cell growth, is tied to hyperactivity, study says - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1waCKft )
    
    BingoBoingo: Nigger.txt
    
    punkman: cazalla, but if it has the BPA FREE stamp it's all good!
    
    cazalla: never bought that line, worked on assumption if it's plastic, it is shit regardless of label
    
    BingoBoingo: People don't understand BPA makes me haet moar
    
    cazalla: don't forget to drink some water before bed BingoBoingo :)
    
    cazalla: you don't want to wake up feeling as i did a few days ago
    
    BingoBoingo: Nao, nevar.
    
    BingoBoingo must work for charlie
    
    punkman: cazalla, what's the baby bottle nipple made of?
    
    cazalla: silicone afaik, can't win em all eh
    
    cazalla: i tried to keep him on the titty but bugger bites down  and makes missus cry
    
    punkman: good silicone should be okay
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3091 @ 0.00051927 = 1.6051 BTC [-]
    
    BingoBoingo: nam-shub: Let us regroup
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3093 @ 0.00054127 = 1.6741 BTC [+]
    
    
    
    assbot: The nam-shub of Enki ... ( http://bit.ly/1waE81s )
    
    BingoBoingo: punkman: You aren't desoxyn. Heisenburg persists without you
    
    
    
    assbot: Logged on 13-01-2015 03:41:56; BingoBoingo: cazalla: You need a period befor your @ replies so they are massively public
    
    
    
    BingoBoingo: Not always
    
    cazalla: it is so gay how the run things at twitter that i will not confirm just to get it to operate properly
    
    cazalla: fucking engrish..
    
    
    
    cazalla: allow me to try that again... it is so gay how things are run over at twitter and i will not conform just to get it to operate properly
    
    BingoBoingo: cazalla danielpbarron You are indeed the gayest
    
    cazalla: BingoBoingo, you make more sense drunk than when i am sober
    
    BingoBoingo: Maybe you need to stop entertaining dude who wants to steal my butthole]
    
    BingoBoingo is no Charlie Shrem
    
    BingoBoingo: And no amount of facebook juice smooths this out.
    
    BingoBoingo: Death be most doomed
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.0005466 = 8.8823 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    BingoBoingo: Knuckles deep, no fingers decode...
    
    BingoBoingo: Du
    
    BingoBoingo: Du hast
    
    BingoBoingo: Du hast miche
    
    cazalla: get that human jukebox in here..  Vexual!
    
    BingoBoingo: !up vexual
    
    BingoBoingo: I
    
    BingoBoingo: I hate
    
    BingoBoingo: I hate angles
    
    BingoBoingo: I hate anglos
    
    BingoBoingo: I hate anglos
    
    cazalla: sunshine and lollipops
    
    BingoBoingo: Niugger
    
    
    
    assbot: Vinicio Capossela Marinai profeti e balene Pryntyl - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1waEQf6 )
    
    
    
    assbot:  ... ( http://bit.ly/1waEQMb )
    
    BingoBoingo: I am sads. Lynsie makes me more sads.
    
    BingoBoingo: Du hast miche
    
    BingoBoingo: In lynsie though I have cultivated the ultimate Germanic storm trooper.
    
    BingoBoingo sads
    
    BingoBoingo: Mostly though just fearing... niggers pretendign to righteous
    
    BingoBoingo: Du du hast, du has miche
    
    BingoBoingo: Who the hell is the anglo fuck who proposes neutral fucks?
    
    BingoBoingo: So much hate exists and only some nggers can shake it off
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5000 @ 0.00080312 = 4.0156 BTC [-] {11} 
    
    BingoBoingo: nIGGERS.TXT
    
    punkman: why so sads BB
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00054406 = 6.8008 BTC [-]
    
    cazalla: what's that pdf about BingoBoingo? you have carpal tunnel?
    
    BingoBoingo: punkman: Because vince HAD CANCER 4 TMES IN 3 YEARS
    
    BingoBoingo: irdial: i i HATE
    
    BingoBoingo: iRDIAL IS A NOOB
    
    BingoBoingo: aLL AROUND ME ARE FAMILIAR OLACES
    
    cazalla: don't be playing that one BingoBoingo
    
    BingoBoingo: WORN AOUT PLcedes
    
    BingoBoingo: Fucker punche dme in the throat
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8460 @ 0.00053473 = 4.5238 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    BingoBoingo: Very... <ad Worold
    
    BingoBoingo: Nigger
    
    BingoBoingo: Mad World
    
    BingoBoingo: All these places wor out olaces
    
    BingoBoingo: !up irdial
    
    BingoBoingo: All around me are familiar places, worn out places, worn out places, a very... mad world
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4191 @ 0.00053457 = 2.2404 BTC [-]
    
    scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/cointerra-goes-from-bad-to-worse/
    
    BingoBoingo: aLL US HELL, ALL IS DONE
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.0005296 = 4.7134 BTC [-]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7467 @ 0.0005296 = 3.9545 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4539 @ 0.00079915 = 3.6273 BTC [-] {14} 
    
    adlai: thank you btce! error:140943FC:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert bad record mac
    
    Naphex: lol
    
    Naphex: that doesn't look good at all
    
    Naphex: either you get corrupted data on your connection, or you're being mitm'd
    
    Naphex: also SSLv3 should be disabled on all exchanges
    
    punkman: maybe some version mismatch
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17895 @ 0.00052826 = 9.4532 BTC [-]
    
    Naphex: the alert is a bad mac
    
    Naphex: so that means a packet sent, was mismatching its MAC
    
    cazalla: someone was spamming this in qntra comments.. tempted to approve https://twitter.com/MyAlexisTexas/
    
    assbot: Alexis Texas (@MyAlexisTexas) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1y8zrLf )
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10804 @ 0.00054913 = 5.9328 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    Naphex: adlai: as far as I see, btc-e definitely has SSLv3 disabled. So if you got that message you're either being MITM'd and the trapper device is failing mac'ing messages, or who knows what. you shouldn't be receiving that error
    
    adlai: hm.
    
    adlai: i'm almost certainly being MITMed (who isn't?), and i'd be surprised if the men in the middle are shitty enough to leak it as protocol errors
    
    Naphex: oh trust me they are
    
    
    
    assbot: 'Re: OpenSSL error: sslv3 alert bad record mac (fwd)' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcRi2R )
    
    Naphex: the trapping devices they usre are pure poop
    
    adlai is not using ossl though
    
    
    
    assbot: Qualys SSL Labs - Projects / SSL Server Test / btc-e.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcS142 )
    
    Naphex: TLS 1.2Yes / TLS 1.1Yes / TLS 1.0Yes  / SSL 3No / SSL 2No
    
    adlai: right. so this error means that somebody in the middle tried to downgrade our connection, and my ssl lib took a shit instead of complying?
    
    Naphex: the downgrade worked, but failed MAC'ing the messsages
    
    adlai: oh imatard, this library just wraps openssl.so
    
    cazalla: so someone is fucking with that hard fork missle crisis reddit link.. 1 comment, 3 upvotes? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2s2utx/the_hard_fork_missile_crisis/
    
    assbot: The Hard Fork Missile Crisis : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcT8Rs )
    
    davout: bonjour
    
    Naphex: adlai, what i'd do i import the btc-e cert manually and remove other trusted sources
    
    davout: dat price
    
    davout: !t m x.eur
    
    assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00438 / 0.00438888 / 0.00440745 (201 shares, 0.88 BTC), 7D: 0.00394588 / 0.00424875 / 0.00440745 (686 shares, 2.91 BTC), 30D: 0.00175233 / 0.0035976 / 0.00448833 (5898 shares, 21.22 BTC)
    
    davout: x.eur, 2015's best performing investment so far :D
    
    
    
    assbot: cl-async/tcp.lisp at master · orthecreedence/cl-async · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcX6cI )
    
    scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitcoin-org-blacklisted-in-russia/
    
    cazalla: mebe BingoBoingo had the right idea.. imma get liquoured up lol
    
    fluffypony: liquor up, stroke 'er down
    
    davout: cazalla: we need a !gotosleep in addition to !down
    
    cazalla: i'm only having one, no excess drinking tonight
    
    cazalla: 15m later, onto the third lol
    
    cazalla: but i swear that is it!
    
    adlai: what are we drinking tonight
    
    cazalla: the other bottle of whiskey
    
    adlai is earshot away from a bottle of red label
    
    adlai: it's half full and not really mine so it stays that way
    
    cazalla: well, i got a couple bottles of dimple 12y on special last week so polished one bottle off at the other nights drinking session and now i have this bottle but i'll stop after this one and go to bed
    
    punkman: beer, rusk and anchovies
    
    punkman: but maybe some more work first
    
    punkman: adlai: lol https://github.com/orthecreedence/cl-async/blob/master/src/ssl/tcp.lisp#L321 << win!
    
    assbot: cl-async/tcp.lisp at master · orthecreedence/cl-async · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcX6cI )
    
    cazalla: ermahgerd http://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-baldur-s-gate-game-in-development/1100-6424582/
    
    assbot: New Baldur's Gate Game In Development - GameSpot ... ( http://bit.ly/1y8QjBu )
    
    davout: cazalla: ho. ly.shit
    
    davout: "it's thinking about it and preparing by playing tabletop 5th edition Dungeons & Dragons game in the office." <<< hahahah
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0005609 = 1.851 BTC [+]
    
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    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00057758 = 7.1331 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00057812 = 19.0201 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0005499 = 4.9491 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00057836 = 9.3405 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00057907 = 7.6148 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7253 @ 0.0005719 = 4.148 BTC [-]
    
    []bot: Bet placed: 2.5 BTC for No on "Russian Ruble to rally to 50 RUB or less per USD before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1085/ Odds: 9(Y):91(N) by coin, 24(Y):76(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.2606717 BTC. Current weight: 23,898.
    
    TomServo: !up mircea_popescu
    
    mircea_popescu: hallo
    
    TomServo: Greetings
    
    TomServo: Should your lack of gribble use be seen as an indictment? :)
    
    mircea_popescu: just waiting for kako to put finishes touches on assbot wot.
    
    davout: http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2s8ryw/in_this_moment_of_loss_i_would_like_to_stand_in/
    
    assbot: In this moment of loss I would like to stand in solidarity with my people by saying "Je suis Karpeles". : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/17DLBSc )
    
    mircea_popescu: assclowns.
    
    mircea_popescu: tripleslash:so watch for a noticeable permanenent 40 petahash drop over the next few difffchanges << it's pretty noticeable they DIDN'T have 40 ph.
    
    mircea_popescu: yeah, there's a 15-25% ish chance by now they actually did and it's just being noised out. tough chance.
    
    mircea_popescu: felipelalli: Makes sense? << if one buys hw, one owns the hw. he can set it on fire or set it to mine scamcoins or w/e he wants. altcoins are perpetually in danger of being destroyed if they are not the largest consumer of hash on the planet, as visited in http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/
    
    assbot: The woes of Altcoin, or why there is no such thing as "cryptocurrencies" pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.  ... ( http://bit.ly/1IGVwSi )
    
    mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter WHAT the other, larger altcoin is. even if it is "nothing at all" : for as long as most miners are mining "nothing at all" then the altcoin Bitcoin is in danger of being stomped.
    
    mircea_popescu: that's why the article says the only stable solution is once 50%+ of the earth available energy is used to mine.
    
    mircea_popescu: this is a fact.
    
    TomServo: !up mircea_popescu
    
    mircea_popescu: tripleslash: you'd essentially have a narrow window where you could have an easier time manipulating things, but the technicals of mining and others miners would catch up. << "other mienrs will catch up" is so much nonsense. other miners are turning down their rigs as it is with the price today. if diff suddenly jumped 100%, "other miners" will give up and go home. which is why the other miners are not to be taken too
    
    mircea_popescu: seriously and why miners actually aren't given that much of a voice in bitcoin.
    
    mircea_popescu: bitcoin holders may put up more rigs to protect hteir holdings, and they may or may not also be miners, but that's coincidental.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8414 @ 0.0005719 = 4.812 BTC [-]
    
    mircea_popescu: heh at that link. "replace bisphenol-a with bisphenol-s. be surprised that s stands for shittier."
    
    mircea_popescu: seriously who could have foreseen.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24836 @ 0.00056774 = 14.1004 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    mircea_popescu: "Canellas wrote to defendant Warren, Great job dude. We kicked ass! Time to get paid. About ten minutes later, defendant Warren responded, Hey man, I dont know where you come up with some of this stuff, but you saved the day. Its been a rough year but its been damn good. Nice work dude. Lets get paid! Canellas and defendant Warren then left the office to enjoy New Years Eve."
    
    mircea_popescu: these are, it should be noted, the ivy league's best and brigtest
    
    mircea_popescu: that's what they say, and they say it over plaintext channels held by their enemy.
    
    mircea_popescu: then people say that pirate roberts character was stupid.
    
    mircea_popescu: yes, he was. do you know who else is just as stupid ? oh... everyone in america ? the smartest lawyers and the smartest businessmen, graduating at the absolute top of the absolute best classes in the absolute best universities ?
    
    mircea_popescu: dudes in flip flops. "getting paid".
    
    mod6: !up mircea_popescu
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00057234 = 6.353 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    mircea_popescu: why thankee!
    
    mod6: =)
    
    mircea_popescu: cazalla: never bought that line, worked on assumption if it's plastic, it is shit regardless of label << a wise man is you.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00055829 = 4.4663 BTC [-]
    
    mircea_popescu: Naphex: oh trust me they are << he's right there.
    
    mircea_popescu: cazalla: so someone is fucking with that hard fork missle crisis reddit link.. 1 comment, 3 upvotes? <<< http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/duplicates/2s2utx/the_hard_fork_missile_crisis/ << seems reddit deleted the 500 votes / 300 comments thing in what's a doomed attempt to frame the issue as marginal.
    
    assbot: The Hard Fork Missile Crisis : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1wb1y6X )
    
    mircea_popescu: i dunno why they persist in thinking that it actually matters how it LOOKS, but hey.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, how's that for "unmask itself" ?
    
    mircea_popescu: "reddit will actually delete the vote count and comment count of popular threads if subversive."
    
    mircea_popescu: because it's, you know, "user driven" :D
    
    thestringpuller: all the comments are still there and stuff. And i'm sure bob alison still has his karma
    
    thestringpuller: confusing
    
    xanthyos: i guess 300 wasn't low enough a buy price
    
    xanthyos: jeez
    
    xanthyos: is this a test?
    
    mircea_popescu: thestringpuller nah, see, bob allison had put the thing in too,
    
    mircea_popescu: but there existed another insertion, same article, by a diff person
    
    mircea_popescu: that prolly got deleted
    
    thestringpuller: hmm.
    
    mircea_popescu: and the db just moved all the comments to the other, identically named, article.
    
    thestringpuller: whoa
    
    thestringpuller: sketchy as fuck
    
    mircea_popescu: so this is all unintended functioning.
    
    mircea_popescu: you shouldn't be able to read all that stuff, as far as reddit's concerned.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00055829 = 3.0706 BTC [-]
    
    
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24004 @ 0.00057985 = 13.9187 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    xanthyos: i now have 2.91 btc in my control and still don't feel super rich
    
    kakobrekla: should have got doge, doze trailing zeros make for that feeling.
    
    xanthyos: heh
    
    thestringpuller: $depth s.qntr
    
    
    
    assbot: Moi quand je me matte un petit boulard sur le trajet Paris-Chambery http://t.co/Qu0NQEHb6I
    
    TomServo: !up brendafdez
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00057021 = 5.36 BTC [-]
    
    thestringpuller: danielpbarron all my twitter notifications come from you. weird how it kinda does what it's supposed to.
    
    thestringpuller: I don't even tweet but I know shits going down when you do mention on me.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8487 @ 0.00056687 = 4.811 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.0005597 = 7.444 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00058144 = 4.4771 BTC [+]
    
    artifexd: !up mircea_popescu
    
    mircea_popescu: yay!
    
    mircea_popescu: you know this voice shortage turns out to be kinda useful. thanks for teh love!
    
    artifexd: np
    
    davout: "you know this voice shortage turns out to be kinda useful" <<< remove mircea_popescu's +v when log.bitcoin-assets.com starts to be short on disk space :D
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    thestringpuller: blacklisting web sites is eerily familiar to burning books
    
    thestringpuller: but far less effectivie
    
    mircea_popescu: no because disk space increases by gavin's law.
    
    thestringpuller: ^ yus
    
    mircea_popescu: thestringpuller BingoBoingo cazalla : http://trilema.com/2015/these-fools-have-been-handed-a-technology-so-clever-so-disruptive-and-revolutionary-that-the-rulers-of-the-world-would-have-to-fully-unmask-themselves-as-ruthless-tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/
    
    assbot: "These fools have been handed a technology so clever, so disruptive and revolutionary, that the rulers of the world would have to fully unmask themselves as ruthless tyrants in order to suppress it, — or give up their thrones on their own free will — if it were used correctly, that is." pe Trile ... ( http://bit.ly/1wb65X4 )
    
    mircea_popescu: and mebbe should be something about it on qntra ?
    
    thestringpuller: IN commentary?
    
    thestringpuller: I can start working on that.
    
    mircea_popescu: well hey, you're the one that got censured by reddit right ?
    
    mircea_popescu: read mah piece on the topic, write your own take, see what qntra editorial board policy is to react to censorship etc.
    
    mircea_popescu: big topic.
    
    thestringpuller: technically bob_allison (sp?)
    
    mircea_popescu: no.
    
    thestringpuller: was censored
    
    mircea_popescu: there was a different guy
    
    thestringpuller: oh
    
    mircea_popescu: bob allison introduced a duplicate
    
    mircea_popescu: either after or before i dun recall.
    
    thestringpuller: I recall bob_allison's submission having 100+ "karma"
    
    mircea_popescu: no, see. there were two reddit submissions, exact same title.
    
    mircea_popescu: the one that's missing had 100s of votes and like 300 comments
    
    mircea_popescu: the one that's still there, andwhich somehow displays thew comments made on the other one, never had more than a few votes
    
    mircea_popescu: and no comments.
    
    scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/these-fools-have-been-handed-a-technology-so-clever-so-disruptive-and-revolutionary-that-the-rulers-of-the-world-would-have-to-fully-unmask-themselves-as-ruthless-tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/
    
    thestringpuller: yea mods must be meddling somehow with admins
    
    thestringpuller: they somehow got derptopolus unshadow banned
    
    mircea_popescu: "user driven"
    
    mircea_popescu: just as long as user = our house muppets.
    
    mircea_popescu: anyway, by the time they're resorting to such things, they're clearly desperate. the matter must be pressed relentlessly.
    
    thestringpuller: an old high school buddy of mine once said to me, "Some of the worst things in history have occurred when too many are in one place at once"
    
    thestringpuller: it was originally in context of ignition of WWI
    
    thestringpuller: but reddit seems to follow pattern
    
    mircea_popescu: woodstock worked out okay...
    
    thestringpuller: didn't someone die at woodstock?
    
    thestringpuller: and someone recently died at burning man
    
    TomServo: heh, not the sequel
    
    mircea_popescu: well, plenty of people died and a buncha women got raped and a bunch more kids were born out of it.
    
    mircea_popescu: sounds quite liek humanity in action.
    
    thestringpuller: i guess his point was too many idiots in one place means statistically someone is bound to do something stupid
    
    thestringpuller: "Mircea got banned from twitter because he was threatening to kill Andreas Antonopoulos" << LOL
    
    hanbot: mircea_popescu perhaps i'm reading poorly, but not sure i grok the foreboding re choosing life: "But if you choose "life", remember one important point from Shrem's misadventure :" --if the dead are the old reptiles a la newhouse, clinging to relevancy, wouldn't choosing life be the sane, independent choice?
    
    mircea_popescu: hanbot the monologue in question is, "Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece su
    
    mircea_popescu: it on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves.
    
    mircea_popescu: Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life."
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20251 @ 0.00056765 = 11.4955 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    hanbot: aha, i see. those are some highly meaningful quotation marks, around "life" then.
    
    mircea_popescu: aye.
    
    mircea_popescu: mentioning renton in there not sufficient hm ?
    
    hanbot: well, ought to be for someone more alert than i
    
    mircea_popescu: anyway. there IS going to be a transfer of power, and all the bs "let's ban mp on twitter because he stands for priviledge and against our impotent, nonsensical brand of socialism", "let's delete reddit articles because they humiliate our houseboys" etc won't do jack shit.
    
    mircea_popescu: twitter, reddit and the rest of the social media crapolade aren't powerful enough. they work, for as long as they suck my cock. otherwise... they're about as useful as homework, who the fuck wants to bother themselves in a playpen designed by adults for "safety".
    
    mircea_popescu: life's not there.
    
    mircea_popescu: there is going to be a transfer of power, and the only thing demuring can possibly accomplish is make it bloody. which i don't mind, because old people are too old as it is. even them out a little.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18598 @ 0.00058144 = 10.8136 BTC [+]
    
    thestringpuller: Lol. "Stop being poor."
    
    thestringpuller: "Unless that's what you want, who am I to tell you how to live your life."
    
    ben_vulpes: guten morgen
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00058351 = 10.6782 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    ben_vulpes: whoa reddit actually deleted the missile crisis thread?
    
    ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 230.37, Best ask: 230.93, Bid-ask spread: 0.56000, Last trade: 230.41, 24 hour volume: 45755.02935209, 24 hour low: 216.0, 24 hour high: 272.43, 24 hour vwap: 0
    
    ben_vulpes: two thirty!
    
    ben_vulpes: wowee.
    
    ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> [] and someone recently died at burning man << every year, actually.
    
    ben_vulpes: "it's a tragedy!" "no, there are 80K drug-addled party monsters running around in the desert around giant machines built with nary much of a care for safety. it's amazing the mortality rate's that low"
    
    assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00058602 = 11.193 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    asciilifeform: !up mircea_popescu
    
    mircea_popescu: why ty
    
    asciilifeform: afaik, reddit 'losing' threads is a very uncommon thing. whereas 'hackernews' - sop. this is because reddit follows the american philosophy of 'censorship by shitburial by the megatonne' rather than straight excision.
    
    asciilifeform: 'hackernews' is more 'soviet' in the low-volume / active 'gardeners' running their fingers through the bag in search of undesirables - sense.
    
    mircea_popescu: apparently in this case shit burial wasn't deemd good enough.
    
    mircea_popescu: which is a pity, it was amusing me watching them try.
    
    mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm curious what the gossipd "counter" strategy is going to be. 've not had the pleasure of finding anything yet.
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that is, the lizard answer to it?
    
    mircea_popescu: right.
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: will depend on how good of a job you & artifexd do, no ?
    
    mircea_popescu: lizard empire very large, very porous, generally i get the good bits before they fully propagated even.
    
    mircea_popescu: well, if something holds itself to be a power, it'd really have to be independent, n'est pas ?
    
    mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> " it's amazing the mortality rate's that low" << im still wondering at the following social engineering feat :
    
    assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
    
    mircea_popescu: how the fuck do they manage to keep fireworks off the grounds ?
    
    mircea_popescu: i get it, fireworks = redneck, bla bla.
    
    ben_vulpes: they don't, really.
    
    mircea_popescu: nevertheless.... whoa nelly. THAT is engineering.
    
    mircea_popescu: if they didn't there'd be 3-5% casualty rates each year
    
    mircea_popescu: they somehow do.
    
    ben_vulpes: are you familiar with the "leave no trace" paradigm?
    
    mircea_popescu: aha
    
    asciilifeform: lizardgoering probably reviewed gossipd and answered, 'mein fuhrer, it's yet another pgp isomorph.' hitler: 'directorate 7b. next.'
    
    ben_vulpes: 3-5% << looool
    
    ben_vulpes: dude you clearly have no idea how weak american fireworks are
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes drunk idiots and gunpowder. i stand by it.
    
    ben_vulpes: maybe an eye or a finger here or there.
    
    mircea_popescu: no no, listen, i mean my words. fireworks. that the stuff available isn't fireworks, that's fine. still social engineering
    
    mircea_popescu: still impressive.
    
    ben_vulpes: oh, actual fireworks.
    
    ben_vulpes: well, a) they're hard to get
    
    ben_vulpes: b) not really in the spirit of the party - messy, dangerous to bystanders
    
    ben_vulpes: i'd suggest you consider the immense feat of reigning in the firearm use.
    
    ben_vulpes: ever heard of the "drive by shooting gallery"?
    
    mircea_popescu: "Protect riparian areas by camping at least 200 feet from lakes and streams.
    
    mircea_popescu: Good campsites are found, not made. Altering a site is not necessary." roflmao.
    
    mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> b) not really in the spirit of the party <<< THIS.
    
    mircea_popescu: do you understand the breathtakingly astounding achievement to get a bunch of teenaged idiots on drugs think "it's not in the spirit" ?>
    
    mircea_popescu: it's larger than the golden gate.
    
    ben_vulpes: once upon a time you could bring a truck-mounted m16
    
    ben_vulpes: now you can't even bring the truck.
    
    ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it's a pretty wacky thing
    
    ben_vulpes: great party.
    
    asciilifeform: truck-mounted m16 << lol!
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i actually recall this was a thing
    
    asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: poor man's 'тачанка' ?
    
    mircea_popescu: kinda ya
    
    mircea_popescu: "Never feed animals. Feeding wildlife damages their health, alters natural behaviors, and exposes them to predators and other dangers."
    
    mircea_popescu: "your food is bad for animals, pleb"
    
    mircea_popescu: somehow nobody reads that in there.
    
    mircea_popescu: "we wouldn't feed the shit you eat to fucking wild hogs already!"
    
    mircea_popescu: totally unrelated : if anyone's looking for "independent escort/in a perfect world, someday i will meet a kinky geeky creature and gravidophiliac with a penchant for ANR"... > http://www.collarspace.com/actiasluna
    
    assbot: hi there.in the spirit of full disclosure, i like to start with the things people are like ... ( http://bit.ly/1yg5tn7 )
    
    mircea_popescu: may you and all her bfs be happy together.
    
    asciilifeform: gravidophiliac ?!
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's common for women to enjoy being pregnant.
    
    mircea_popescu: (anr = "adult nursing relationship", aka http://trilema.com/2010/alaptarium/ )
    
    assbot: Alaptarium pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.  ... ( http://bit.ly/1yg5KXf )
    
    asciilifeform: well-kept secret ?
    
    mircea_popescu: nope ?
    
    mircea_popescu: ;;google caritas romana
    
    gribble: Roman Charity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Charity>; Roman Love / Caritas Romana — The Theological Anthropology Blog: <http://theologicalanthropology.com/alphabet-of-love/2013/11/7/roman-love-caritas-romana>; Caritas Romana - KMSKA: <http://www.kmska.be/en/collectie/highlights/CimonenPero.html>
    
    asciilifeform: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/vospit/16330949/3659/3659_original.jpg (re: earlier thread, 'тачанка' - chariot used in ru civil war)
    
    assbot:  ... ( http://bit.ly/1yg6c7O )
    
    asciilifeform: for n00bs
    
    mircea_popescu: new baldur's gate eh ?
    
    asciilifeform: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: so now that bitcoin.org is banned in russia, the real foundation is actually the only legal resource in bitcoin as far asthey're concerned ?
    
    mircea_popescu: aww.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00058682 = 10.152 BTC [+]
    
    ben_vulpes: here's to thebitcoin.foundation
    
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    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00050928 = 13.9033 BTC [-]
    
    davout: !up mircea_popescu
    
    mircea_popescu: :)
    
    mircea_popescu: thanks. i'll be off for a bit tho.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00049583 = 12.0239 BTC [-] {2} 
    
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    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 198 @ 0.0064201 = 1.2712 BTC [-] {7} 
    
    ben_vulpes: is a gpg signature topologically the same as encrypting to the public key?
    
    
    
    ben_vulpes: something something digest something
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00049803 = 6.5989 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    thestringpuller: something something complete
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.0005 = 8.1 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: http://chicago.suntimes.com/neil-steinberg/7/71/263973/home-of-the-unbrave no sledding for you lmao
    
    assbot: Home of the unbrave | Chicago ... ( http://bit.ly/1BkF0aq )
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00049301 = 1.972 BTC [-] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.0005 = 3.9 BTC [+]
    
    Elian11: Hi
    
    Elian11: Euros seem cheap these days, no?
    
    mircea_popescu: kinda
    
    Elian11: I'm on a trip, and i think most things are a bargan at that rate
    
    kakobrekla: yeah almost 1:1 for the dollar.
    
    Elian11: (except stuff on the ferry in/around airport, etc)
    
    Elian11: Who is in the states? Would you minde tell about the cost of a sandwitch and what you like to eat?
    
    Elian11: (in between slices of bread)
    
    mircea_popescu: o.O
    
    thestringpuller: good sandwich is like 6 bucks?
    
    thestringpuller: maybe 7?
    
    Elian11: and what kind of sandwich do you like to eat thestringpuller ?
    
    thestringpuller: depends
    
    thestringpuller: chicken tender sub is about 8 bucks
    
    Elian11: Where at?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00049237 = 4.9729 BTC [-]
    
    asciilifeform: Jan 12 13:56:09 *       qntranet (452ee56a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.46.229.106) has joined #bitcoin-assets
    
    asciilifeform: Jan 12 13:57:57 *       qntranet is now known as bitcoin_charlie
    
    asciilifeform: achtung mircea_popescu
    
    mircea_popescu: wut ?
    
    asciilifeform: above.
    
    thestringpuller: Elian11: publix for the mediocre versions. but i'll go to higher scale grocery stores
    
    Elian11: ne way, my favourite sandwitch is a BLT. Some clown in the USA tried to charge me 7USD for one once. I almost smacked hin upside the head for that.
    
    Elian11: publix? are u in Florida?
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but i mean so... ?
    
    asciilifeform: aha finally figured out why. nm
    
    asciilifeform: ('contact' link on qntra.)
    
    mircea_popescu: right.
    
    asciilifeform: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: iu think it's said in the logs too.
    
    asciilifeform not alert reader.
    
    mircea_popescu: Elian11 i dun get it, how much should it cost ?
    
    Elian11: hmm, the BLT is tangent unrelated to ongoing anecdotal buying power calculation.
    
    Elian11: But,
    
    Elian11: what can i say i like BLT
    
    mircea_popescu: i don't think anything i eat is standard enough for such procedures.
    
    Elian11: BLT is the simplest sandwitch it should not be more than 5, and that is with chips
    
    mircea_popescu: what's wrongwith just going by gas, rents and blowjobs, like normal people ?
    
    Elian11: its basically a condiment sandwitch
    
    
    
    assbot: How to sandwich like a badass pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.  ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHIbcC )
    
    cazalla: thestringpuller, did you manage to get that article done on reddit while i was zzz?
    
    Elian11: No, imo sandwitch is an excellent measure because of the diversity of ingredients and other costs aggregated
    
    mircea_popescu: what if i like salmon paste on my blt ?
    
    Elian11: Rend for the store, wage for the cook, bread baker, etc
    
    Elian11: What would you drink with that?
    
    mircea_popescu: depends. milk, generally. orange juice (freshly squeezed)
    
    Elian11: ahh, i can try to get something like that tomorrow to compare cost
    
    Elian11: is unpasteurized milke significantly more valuable than pasteurized ?
    
    mircea_popescu: you'll prolly have to get it with the slavegirl au paquet, cuz i dunno anyone makes such comercially.
    
    mircea_popescu: not really, unless by pasteurized you mean uht'd, which tastes like shit.
    
    thestringpuller: cazalla: will be your afternoon/evening
    
    Elian11: ?dict uht'd
    
    cazalla: on account of it being your article, would be rude of me to scoop you while you're working :)
    
    thestringpuller: yea being knee deep in ruby, which is like wading around in horse poop at times
    
    mircea_popescu: RED! red horse poop!
    
    mircea_popescu: Elian11 ultra high temperature, an application of radioactivity to make milk shelf stable.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.0005 = 6.925 BTC [+]
    
    Elian11: yikes, that would make the milk worthless to me
    
    mircea_popescu: generally that's what comes in those tetrapak cartons
    
    cazalla: 50/50 on publishing trollish comments but then where do you draw the line? http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/#comment-7168
    
    assbot: The Hard Fork Missile Crisis | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHLBw3 )
    
    Adlai: asswot is my new best friend. i come in here, head brimming with stupid, dribble it out all over the channel. then by the time i'm authed i realize none of it is worth repeating.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18958 @ 0.0005 = 9.479 BTC [+]
    
    Elian11: the only thing is... i kinda like Yahoo chocolate milk
    
    Elian11: but i know its bad
    
    mircea_popescu: cazalla imo as long as the comment was made by human as opposedto machine, it should be published.
    
    mircea_popescu: doesn't matter what it says.
    
    mircea_popescu: Adlai lmao
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.0005 = 5.15 BTC [+]
    
    Adlai met not one but TWO people who'd never heard of bitcoin before
    
    mircea_popescu: o.O
    
    cazalla: yeah, that's what we've done so far
    
    Adlai: nice thing about being so close to roofing the all-time maximum drawdown is that it makes you focus on things other than price when explaining bitcoin from scratch
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 249 @ 0.11104614 = 27.6505 BTC [+] {8} 
    
    mircea_popescu: as it should be.
    
    Adlai: one was all "this is interesting but computers are not my thing", the other said she'd tell her son to read about it, because he "once tried to explain algorithms to me"
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: i dun get why you think either conversation's at all productive ?
    
    mircea_popescu: i don't go about bothering random folk about sumerian tablets, fascinating as they may be ?
    
    Adlai: well i was thinking about this afterwards, wondering what the use of spending ~15 minutes explaining a technology to people who made every indication of not being its target audience
    
    mircea_popescu: seems that much adolescent dweebery.
    
    Adlai: it's still important, though. at least, more important than discussing whatever polite smalltalk we could have made otherwise
    
    mircea_popescu: if you're doing this, why not explain dungeons & dragons to random people ?
    
    mircea_popescu: of course it's important. everything they don't know is important.
    
    mircea_popescu: why aren't you explaining supreme court practice to them ?
    
    Adlai: because the populace doesn't care that nerds play D&D in their basement, they don't think it finances terrorism
    
    mircea_popescu: and if they did ?
    
    Adlai: but both of these folks now have a very very positive *initial* impression of bitcoin
    
    mircea_popescu: for that matter, "violence in videogames" is EXACTLY That.
    
    mircea_popescu: thinking they finance terrorism.
    
    mircea_popescu: because to the common imbecile, all things are one thing and that's that.
    
    Adlai: "you never get a second chance to make a first impression" is true for bitcoin as well, only bitcoin doesn't get to pick how to present itself
    
    mircea_popescu: uh.
    
    Adlai: so these are two fewer people who hear about bitcoin for the first time in some cable news screed
    
    mircea_popescu: so ?
    
    mircea_popescu: you act as if the responsibility for idiocy is on the thing.
    
    Adlai: on what thing?
    
    mircea_popescu: let them figure it out, eh ? if the 'first impression' is wrong, it's the impressee not the impressor that has to change.
    
    Adlai: oh sure
    
    mircea_popescu: so then.
    
    Adlai: i was also forced into this conversation initially, my free choice was just continuing it rather than changing subject
    
    Adlai was pouring drinks for guests, dad says "he's practicing his bartending in case bitcoin goes to zero"
    
    mircea_popescu: i mean whatever, gotta talk about something,
    
    mircea_popescu: lol i hope you bitchslapped him
    
    mircea_popescu: "for all the effort he's spent with me, i'd be pouring drinks if it weren't for my own work"
    
    mircea_popescu: dad wants to play, let dad have it.
    
    Elian11: wow lol
    
    mircea_popescu: doh.
    
    Adlai: eh it was in good humor dunno
    
    Adlai: and it brought up the subject
    
    mircea_popescu: well you're never going to explain bitcoin from a dismissive position like that.
    
    Adlai: i'd rather explain derive bitcoin with strangers than discuss the weather
    
    mircea_popescu: seems there's other points to address first. but then again, im an asshole.
    
    
    
    assbot: Sumerian creation myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHOdd6 )
    
    Adlai: "derive" is important... a great way to introduce bitcoin to people is just to explain the problems and solve them together
    
    mircea_popescu: Adlai well then you need a simplified model.
    
    mircea_popescu: you'll notice discussions of the weather proceed socially on a simplified model.
    
    Adlai: right, we started as apples as money, then moved to coins, paper, digital fiat, cleared digital cash, bitcoin.
    
    mircea_popescu: the simplified model i'd readily think of being something more akin to "well currently, you people have some sort of control, based on contracts and fiat currency and so on. what we kids are doing is making an entirely new system of control, where you will be entirely powerless.
    
    mircea_popescu: apple as money strikes me as rank nonsense, but ymmv
    
    Adlai: both these people were painfully aware of their powerlessness
    
    mircea_popescu: so then. maybe they should look into it.
    
    Adlai: in the sense that we kept running into stuff like "well are you familiar with the concept of a hash? ok, so a hash is..."
    
    mircea_popescu: "we're powerless already in teh old system... mebbe this new thing worth a look ?"
    
    Adlai: oh they probably do fine in the old system, the powerlessness which they sense is in the digital domain
    
    mircea_popescu: Adlai why would you introduce a specific concept if you're not willing to introduce it rigurously ?
    
    Adlai: which concept?
    
    mircea_popescu: hash.
    
    Adlai: btw in the defense of apples - apples are a simpler value store than coins, because they're directly useful - you can eat them if you're hungry, and you can be pretty sure that other people like to eat them too
    
    Adlai: you can verify their quality visually, no holes / mould - it's a good apple
    
    mircea_popescu: but apples are nonsense as they never were value store.
    
    Adlai: exactly
    
    Adlai: they spoil
    
    Adlai: this rules out food as money
    
    Adlai: except for honey
    
    mircea_popescu: ...
    
    Adlai: honey money.
    
    mircea_popescu: or grain. or you just lost it.
    
    Adlai: grain goes bad
    
    mircea_popescu: there's 3k yo grain in egeept.
    
    Adlai: we should just make coins out of crystallized honey
    
    mircea_popescu: why not crystal sugar.
    
    thestringpuller: ;;ud we major
    
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    thestringpuller: boo
    
    mircea_popescu: the only thing i like about honey as money is that it gives kids botulism.
    
    mircea_popescu: some limit on universalizing money is better than none.
    
    Adlai: don't we get the ability to break down botulin very early on?
    
    mircea_popescu: nope.
    
    davout: thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2015#976147 <<< you'll develop the taste
    
    assbot: Logged on 13-01-2015 20:34:50; thestringpuller: yea being knee deep in ruby, which is like wading around in horse poop at times
    
    mircea_popescu: this is why you shouldn't feed kids honey
    
    Adlai: also, you don't want money which causes botulism in infants, the earth will be overrun by the spawn of the penniless
    
    mircea_popescu: just don't give kids dough.
    
    thestringpuller: what mircea_popescu said about comments
    
    thestringpuller: i agree
    
    thestringpuller: no censorship
    
    Adlai: what part of "opposed to machine" is "no censorship"?
    
    thestringpuller: @ cazalla -^
    
    Adlai: this is censorship.
    
    thestringpuller: machine aren't people
    
    mircea_popescu: ...
    
    thestringpuller: :P
    
    thestringpuller: Adlai: would have sex with a robot.
    
    thestringpuller: >:P
    
    mircea_popescu: he's in the israeli army, so he prolly did.
    
    Adlai: i've been out for almost two years, pls.
    
    thestringpuller: he's in mossad now, but can't tell us
    
    mircea_popescu: it's so sad the us is wasting 1 trn to build the f35, instead of building fucking power suits.
    
    mircea_popescu: if the us infantry had what's basically an android chassis, 3 or so meters tall...
    
    Adlai can't be in the mossad, he didn't even get security clearance to do the simplest possible code shit
    
    Adlai: apparently going on irc makes you a terrorist
    
    mircea_popescu: that's what i'd do as minister of war i mean peace. fucking power suits. flamethrower in one arm, minigun in other, go for it.
    
    thestringpuller: you've been watching too much anime
    
    mircea_popescu: Adlai lol you seriously blew your clearance because #b-a ?
    
    thestringpuller: maybe playing too much starcraft too...
    
    mircea_popescu: thestringpuller can you imagine what the volunteer lines'd look like ?
    
    Adlai: #b-a didn't exist when i failed clearance
    
    mircea_popescu: a ok
    
    Adlai: this was before i started the army
    
    Adlai: bitcoin existed and i'd heard of it! but not #b-a
    
    Adlai: and i'd also managed to forget bitcoin already, silly me
    
    mircea_popescu: umh... you know this chan is kinda old...
    
    Adlai: summer 2009
    
    mircea_popescu: not that old.
    
    mircea_popescu: Registered : Apr 10 19:16:21 2012 (2y 39w 5d ago).
    
    Adlai: "old"
    
    Adlai: even i feel old compared to this channel
    
    mircea_popescu: scandal!
    
    Elian11: Does anyone have clearance? Is it cool?
    
    Adlai: btw i would like a statement struck from the logs
    
    mircea_popescu: lmao
    
    Adlai: apparently all the cool kids ask for this, right? :D
    
    Adlai: i have realized that i do not regret being born a man
    
    mircea_popescu: o.O
    
    Adlai: because i can play the "how old do i look to you?" game
    
    Adlai: it's amazing how bad people can get at this
    
    assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
    
    mircea_popescu: is that before or after the "no means yes' game ?
    
    Adlai: if i wanted comeback i'd have asked your mother to spit in a cup!
    
    mircea_popescu: lol
    
    mircea_popescu: wait.
    
    mircea_popescu: i dun understand ;/
    
    Adlai: ...
    
    mircea_popescu: oh oh.
    
    mircea_popescu: cumback. kay.
    
    Adlai: ...!
    
    Adlai sees himself out
    
    mircea_popescu: the saddest thing here being, of course, that the general expectation that the girl's sucking cock is entirely a 90s and after affair.
    
    mircea_popescu: people in the 80s and prior sucked.
    
    Adlai: well somewhere along the way humans got quite bad at having sex, probably bottoming out in victorian england, or modern hassidic yeshivas
    
    mircea_popescu: english speakers always sucked at fucking
    
    Adlai: regarding how to block gossipd: same way that torrents are "blocked"... either by ultimately ineffective packet filtering by ISPs, or by targeted, expensive, and extreme "making examples of" individuals that fuck up badly enough
    
    mircea_popescu: and it's not fixed yet, either.
    
    mircea_popescu: Adlai both serving more to fan the flames than anything.
    
    mircea_popescu: exactly the tsar's playbook, that resulted in one dead tsar holding in his arms one dead tsar baby.
    
    Adlai: they discourage some people, which satisfies the short term interests of the bureaucrats that actually have to plan and authorize such things
    
    mircea_popescu: one dead tsar holding in his arms one dead tsar baby.
    
    asciilifeform: Adlai: it'll have to get in the queue. in usa, we pgp users are still waiting to be gassed. since the clinton administration, even.
    
    Adlai: "our department killed seven terrorists/dealers/traffickers this month!" sure, but you also recruited seventeen.
    
    mircea_popescu: "nobody could have predicted"
    
    Adlai: when was the last time a court ordered somebody to divulge a pgp key?
    
    mircea_popescu: in the uk ?
    
    mircea_popescu: prolly last week
    
    mircea_popescu: or to quote monty pythin, "this is the most outrageous miscarriage of justice since tuesday"
    
    Adlai: in planet earth. these things have a way of leaking, even if initially it's just between agencies
    
    cazalla: asciilifeform: aha finally figured out why. nm <<< i named it qntranet so it was obvious user is coming from the website instead of random joe blow
    
    asciilifeform: cazalla: yes, makes sense
    
    cazalla: but i must credit danielpbarron for the idea as first saw him using that to denote which users were coming here from which forum
    
    mircea_popescu: hey Adlai what's the most obscene, revolting and horrible hebrew swear you can think of ?
    
    dub: ty
    
    Adlai: this is a very relative question, who are you trying to offend?
    
    mircea_popescu: thank global warming.
    
    mircea_popescu: Adlai just looking for a random string really.
    
    dub: erryday I thank Al Gore
    
    Adlai: how about זונה, nice and simple
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00050305 = 7.5961 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00051077 = 8.7342 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00051429 = 11.3658 BTC [+] {3} 
    
    fluffypony: Reddit humour: http://imgur.com/a/33Qpw (some guy setup a fake Tinder profile with some stock photos, and proceeded to canvas girls for their opinion on Bitcoin)
    
    assbot:                     The Women of Tinder Talk Bitcoin - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1y8WhnE )
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14856 @ 0.00051749 = 7.6878 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10344 @ 0.00051972 = 5.376 BTC [+]
    
    thestringpuller: ;;ident
    
    gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@unaffiliated/thestringpuller', is not identified.
    
    thestringpuller: oh well
    
    dub: oh gribbs is back
    
    thestringpuller: got any new wub wub for us mr. dub dub ?
    
    thestringpuller: :D
    
    dub: http://ecogex.com/logos/img/crumpetmuncher.png looks like something from an oglaf
    
    assbot:  ... ( http://bit.ly/1y8Zrb0 )
    
    thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "what's a 'small fork'? Something like 'a little pregnant'?" << figure you'd enjoy that one
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1500 @ 0.00076043 = 1.1406 BTC [-] {11} 
    
    ben_vulpes: funny how little google and duckduckgo claim to know about al hayat and the islamic state report
    
    thestringpuller: moop
    
    thestringpuller: now i'm on a watch list
    
    thestringpuller: :P
    
    ben_vulpes: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/25/article-2668912-1F12C87000000578-212_306x423.jpg << i'm sending you one of these, thestringpuller
    
    assbot:  ... ( http://bit.ly/1xlXeC9 )
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7797 @ 0.00051972 = 4.0523 BTC [+]
    
    
    
    assbot:  ... ( http://bit.ly/1xlXWPN )
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21070 @ 0.00053103 = 11.1888 BTC [+]
    
    kakobrekla: check out the cluelessness https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=923897.0
    
    assbot: Do you think you were scammed by GAW? Tell Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1xlZSb9 )
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00053103 = 1.779 BTC [+]
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15472 @ 0.00053032 = 8.2051 BTC [-]
    
    hanbot: !up qntranet
    
    mircea_popescu: thestringpuller not bad.
    
    mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> funny how little google and duckduckgo claim to know about al hayat and the islamic state report << that is all a coincidence that has nothing at all to do with what you *should* be knowing.
    
    mircea_popescu: kakobrekla> check out the cluelessness << lol poor guy.
    
    mircea_popescu: Dratel instead said that Ulbricht only ran Silk Road for a few months after he created it. Finding it too stressful, Ulbricht reportedly handed the websites reins over to others. As a result, the defense argues that the government is prosecuting the wrong individual for building up a $1.2 billion black market, since Ulbricht is not Dread Pirate Roberts.
    
    mircea_popescu: Back in 2013, a separate individual claiming to be Dread Pirate Roberts stated that he/she didnt start the Silk Road, my predecessor did.
    
    mircea_popescu: howly shit, they finally found the defense that's gonna hung the jury.
    
    mircea_popescu: i wonder if all the bumbling to date was simply baiting "the people" into expensive failure.
    
    asciilifeform: 'if chewbacca lives on endor you must acquit!'
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform proving identity online to an us jury ?
    
    mircea_popescu: i dunno a prosecutor exists that woulnd't rather have any other task.
    
    asciilifeform: did defense dispute the 'found with pants down, logged into sr shell' thing ?
    
    mircea_popescu: i've not actually bothered to read teh actual filings
    
    mircea_popescu: going off a skim of a summary here.
    
    mircea_popescu: fluffypony: "some guy setup a fake Tinder profile with some stock photos" << somehow i suspect you just defined that thing.
    
    mircea_popescu: "If you enjoyed this hard-hitting piece of investigative journalism, consider donating to" and some nonstandard btc address follows.
    
    mircea_popescu: shockingly, this hard hitting journalist would be all in 3bitcoin.
    
    ben_vulpes: mmm, lathed carrots.
    
    ben_vulpes: they're not d-grade roots if you turn them down and get rid of the vile outside layer!
    
    cazalla: ben_vulpes, what are lathed carrots?
    
    cazalla: google leads me to believe they machine the shitty ones into cocktail carrots.. this i never knew, i like the ones i grow which end up looking like they have 2 legs and a cock
    
    mircea_popescu: are there lathed feminists ?
    
    mircea_popescu: "hey honey, there's a hundred pounds of woman in there somewhere".
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36398 @ 0.00053158 = 19.3484 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    ben_vulpes: i don't think i want lathed babes
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00055632 = 9.68 BTC [+]
    
    asciilifeform pictures a retelling of 'pygmalion' involving meat and six-axis cnc milling...
    
    asciilifeform: procrustalion!
    
    cazalla: i've heard of meat glue though
    
    ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stCKRExcRBA << huh turns out they're not even lathed
    
    assbot: Baby Carrot line, Budget production line machines for the production of Baby Carrots production line - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/14Yrsoc )
    
    ben_vulpes: but "polished"
    
    ben_vulpes: today i learned...
    
    cazalla: a real man pulls his carrots from the garden and eats em, dirt an all
    
    ben_vulpes: CRITICAL_BLOCK
    
    ben_vulpes: ah okay so this is the famed c++ concurrency story. rad.
    
    ben_vulpes: recursive_mutex etc
    
    ben_vulpes: WHEEEEEEE
    
    ben_vulpes girds his loins
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
    
    gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 218.0, vol: 60876.00185126 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 212.999, vol: 39602.92108 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 219.39, vol: 151767.23879618 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 226.1, vol: 53.29606057 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 213.854766, vol: 326905.96360000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 218.05, vol: 199.13296717 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 217.708, vol: 410.37499069 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
    
    ben_vulpes: daaaaang
    
    mike_c: and this is before the hard fork.
    
    cazalla: don't go under $200.. no whammy, no whammy, no whammy
    
    mike_c: oh its going
    
    thestringpuller: :D
    
    thestringpuller: Look at all the panic we've caused. It's beautiful.
    
    scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitcoin-on-the-agenda-for-ciscos-leadership-council-event/
    
    felipelalli: Do you guys only write original news made by you or do you consult other news sources? Or not necessarily?
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5240 @ 0.00076026 = 3.9838 BTC [-] {6} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3396 @ 0.00075177 = 2.553 BTC [-] {11} 
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3783 @ 0.0007304 = 2.7631 BTC [-] {7} 
    
    cazalla: felipelalli, i guess it depends how much we've had to drink the night before
    
    thestringpuller: felipelalli: Do you guys only write original news made by you... << this is misleading? Are you asking do we create news then report on it? Like in that james bond movie?
    
    mircea_popescu: <mike_c> oh its going << all up to gavin at this point.
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1600 @ 0.00076424 = 1.2228 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    thestringpuller: i kinda want him to release statement "I'm going ahead with hard fork"
    
    thestringpuller: more panic
    
    thestringpuller: lower prices
    
    mircea_popescu: not like anbything prevents the man from putting an announcement on their client, "MP was right, I was wrong but too stupid to realise, sorry all!"
    
    thestringpuller: gobble up as many war coins as possible
    
    felipelalli: ahahahah :) I mean: you guys go to street like reporters? Like "original research"? Or compilation from other sources? Sorry for ask, not offence.
    
    thestringpuller: i'm moving into on the street reporting, but we also have done digital forensics
    
    mircea_popescu: felipelalli the bitpay fireparty was exclusive to qntra for instance.
    
    ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L760 << if this is what's necessary to pull an input out of the db to fill a sendto, the db is not working for you.
    
    assbot: bitcoin/wallet.cpp at v0.5.3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8Nlyp )
    
    felipelalli: very nice!
    
    felipelalli: congratulations.
    
    ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L778 << i mean lolwut?
    
    assbot: bitcoin/wallet.cpp at v0.5.3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8Ny4E )
    
    felipelalli: I know you guys have an original analysis, but I was wondering if you make digital forensics or go to street interview the people.
    
    ben_vulpes sighs
    
    thestringpuller: lol random_shuffle
    
    thestringpuller: have you git blamed that yet?
    
    ben_vulpes: naw i don't even care yo
    
    ben_vulpes: in the process of running down how vins get populated, just thought i'd share some lulz
    
    thestringpuller: felipelalli: we were running digital forensics on changetip but they're platform is too fucktarded to track accurately.
    
    asciilifeform: not like anbything prevents the man from putting an announcement... "MP was right... << impalement ?
    
    mircea_popescu: so ?
    
    asciilifeform: or whatever the nice folks handling gavin have in store for his cowardly skin
    
    mircea_popescu: why all this pretense like impalent is the summum malum ?
    
    mircea_popescu: there's worse things than dieing.
    
    felipelalli: thestringpuller: but do you talk to them? Like interview?
    
    mircea_popescu: there's certainly worse things than spending 30 years upstate.
    
    asciilifeform: brave man dies just once.
    
    thestringpuller: i've never reached out but cazalla has on occassion to various entities he's covering :P
    
    mircea_popescu: any particular something you got in mind felipelalli ?
    
    ben_vulpes: with all the hoojum around wallets and the db, i can't help but suspect that all the state the reference client should really maintain in terms of db is a) block indices and b) unspent txout pool
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes exactly my view.
    
    thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: that sounds like more than enough to run a node.
    
    thestringpuller: this file is loaded with boost_cpp
    
    ben_vulpes: utxo lets you trivially find outputs of your own to spend
    
    ben_vulpes: block indices let you dump the blockchain into a rich datastore
    
    ben_vulpes: utxo also lets miners verify transactions, an important thing to preserve imho
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes since i have your ear, allow me to privilege some actual business complaints.
    
    ben_vulpes: oh god help us
    
    
    
    assbot: Bitcoind : not quite ready for prime time pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.  ... ( http://bit.ly/1xmxwxj )
    
    mircea_popescu: make it not fucking fail like gavinshitcoin.
    
    ben_vulpes: lolk
    
    ben_vulpes: i'm not really seeing a future for sendmany
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8102 @ 0.00058195 = 4.715 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: gotta have a future for sendmany or else no txn at all.
    
    mircea_popescu: i must be able to create my own change addresses.
    
    ben_vulpes: no way. transaction cooking is a job for the person cooking transactions, not the RI.
    
    ben_vulpes: you want a change addr, you new up a change addr and include precisely how much change you want it to have.
    
    ben_vulpes: i have no problem with a bitcoin that makes txns of arbitrary size.
    
    ben_vulpes: i imagine you've found a way to get it to make them, what with all the "murder gavincoin" talk i've heard.
    
    ben_vulpes: (i encourage argument on the topic! conflict being productive and all.)
    
    scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/peripateticists-kinda-except-girls-not-boys-bare-cunt-instead-of-toga-and-walking-around-the-house-not-the-garden-but-otherwise-exactly-the-same/
    
    thestringpuller: what a link
    
    ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu's trying to break http/2 already
    
    asciilifeform still doesn't grasp the excitement the livestock butchery thing caused
    
    asciilifeform: 'Her: If violence conquers all, even argument, why are you training me in logic instead of shooting? Me: You gotta be willing and able to stand for what you believe in. If you're not, you might as well be a rabbit. And if you recall I have on numerous occasions indicated that you must meet minimal standards of violence.' << interesting! :
    
    asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu have marksmanship standards for the gurlz ?
    
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    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00055448 = 7.0973 BTC [-]
    
    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes point is, i gotta be able to make list x pay list y in one tx.
    
    mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was never disclosed
    
    asciilifeform: ah.
    
    thestringpuller: ;;ticker
    
    gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 220.24, Best ask: 220.41, Bid-ask spread: 0.17000, Last trade: 220.25, 24 hour volume: 59177.96008404, 24 hour low: 216.0, 24 hour high: 258.49, 24 hour vwap: 0
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5797 @ 0.00055448 = 3.2143 BTC [-]
    
    kakobrekla: ..
    
    felipelalli: mircea_popescu: I was wondering because I really love the articles there and sometimes I didn't find the "original source".
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00055448 = 13.6957 BTC [-]
    
    thestringpuller: sometimes original source is not available to public :P
    
    thestringpuller: #watergate
    
    thestringpuller: #wikileaks
    
    felipelalli: thestringpuller: true :)
    
    thestringpuller: cazalla: you gonna be at the computer for a minute?
    
    cazalla: i will be until a scream comes over the baby monitor that someone is awake and demands lunch
    
    mod6: anyone wanna test a shell script?
    
    
    
    assbot:  ... ( http://bit.ly/1DENYkU )
    
    thestringpuller: mod6: it doesn't work
    
    mod6: pm me the error
    
    mod6: or quit trolling :P
    
    mircea_popescu: Error 10042 : It doesn't work.
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2803 @ 0.00055448 = 1.5542 BTC [-]
    
    PeterL: mod6 what does your script do?
    
    TheNewDeal: lotta shitty miners getting squeezed out othe marketplace, or what's with the 2 month long hash freeze?
    
    BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
    
    gribble: Current Blocks: 338861 | Current Difficulty: 4.397166205608958E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 340703 | Next Difficulty In: 1842 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 13 hours, 3 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 37632855784.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -14.41566
    
    mod6: PeterL: builds the patched R.I. and compiles it
    
    mod6: pulls all the patch packages, checks the hashes, checks the signatures.
    
    mod6: mircea_popescu: ah, hmm.
    
    mod6: oh well, w/e.
    
    mod6: worked for me.
    
    mod6: i hate shell scripts.
    
    TomServo: Waterfall back in action...another 4300 or so evacuated.
    
    
    
    assbot: Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1IudBoG )
    
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    asciilifeform: !b 3
    
    TheNewDeal: who controls that?
    
    asciilifeform: hitler.
    
    TomServo: lol
    
    TomServo: That's ethereum's wallet
    
    TheNewDeal: nice
    
    TheNewDeal: it's like an inverse graph of ethereum support.
    
    PeterL: anybody guess the probability ethereum ever becomes a working thing?
    
    TheNewDeal: well if you're an ethereum dev, it already has done that
    
    TheNewDeal: it's turned shit into capital - voila
    
    TheNewDeal: anyone here tried eating melatonin before? any noticeable results?
    
    mthreat: yes. first time it gave me the most intense nightmare I've ever had.
    
    mthreat: after that, not so much, and it has helped me go to sleep, but I felt a bit groggy in the morning so I stopped taking it.
    
    dub: just made me sleep better
    
    joecool: i only use it in low dose for jet lag, it's not practical for daily use (and for me the store dosages are way too high)
    
    mthreat: I would recommend taking 1/2 mg to start, up to 1mg max.
    
    BingoBoingo: mirtazapine is generally the best for inducing trippy weird Vexual like dreams
    
    joecool: i usually use 1.5mg for that use case... any more and groggy mornings
    
    mthreat: they sell 3mg pills, that is too much, I think
    
    dub: fixin to get exual
    
    dub: wtf
    
    joecool: BingoBoingo: vitamin b6 will usually give messed up dreams too
    
    dub: Vexual
    
    TheNewDeal: stuff I bought from drug store was 5mg chewies
    
    BingoBoingo: joecool: There's a bunch of stuff that messes with dreaming.
    
    Adlai: calea z
    
    TheNewDeal: thought I read online that the body synthesizes the stuff from Tryptophan tho?
    
    joecool: well you get the same effect of taking melatonin at a much lower level if you just turn your lights off and lay down in the dark for a bit
    
    Adlai: "Users take the plant to help them remember their dreams; side effects include hallucinations, nausea, and vomiting."
    
    dub: going out in the sun works
    
    dub: problematic for #b-a shutins
    
    mthreat: bah, get a sun desktop background :)
    
    TheNewDeal: I'm working in the sunny south and it starting to get some poor sleep. If I wake up to go to the bathroom I am having trouble getting back to sleep. This is atypical for meh
    
    dub: whisky
    
    kakobrekla: test
    
    kakobrekla: !b 3
    
    assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( TheNewDeal: I'm working in the sunny south and it starting to get some poor sleep. If I wake up to go to the bathroom I am having trouble getting back to sleep. This is atypical for mehdub: whiskykakobrekla: test )
    
    kakobrekla: aha
    
    kakobrekla: !b 3
    
    assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( kakobrekla: testkakobrekla: !b 3kakobrekla: aha )
    
    kakobrekla: doh lol
    
    BingoBoingo: !b 2
    
    assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( kakobrekla: !b 3kakobrekla: doh lol )
    
    kakobrekla: wait wut
    
    BingoBoingo: Nah just paper over it
    
    kakobrekla: mhm
    
    kakobrekla: !b 3
    
    assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2718MNX.txt )
    
    assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4579 @ 0.0007418 = 3.3967 BTC [-] {8} 
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10398 @ 0.00056568 = 5.8819 BTC [+]
    
    ben_vulpes: hola bigtip
    
    mircea_popescu: you know it kinda sucks that there's no city called buenos tardes in argentina.
    
    asciilifeform: !up Alina-malina
    
    mircea_popescu: mod6:i hate shell scripts. << i wasn't serious man. just joking around his error.
    
    asciilifeform: Alina-malina: who might you be ?
    
    mod6: oh srsly?
    
    mod6: i've been like killing kittens for like 30 minutes
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24004 @ 0.00056568 = 13.5786 BTC [+]
    
    mircea_popescu: shit
    
    mircea_popescu: i shoud be more careful
    
    mod6: haha. no worries.
    
    ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: probably a badmouthed set of points
    
    mircea_popescu: TomServo: https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 << that the ethereum "investment" address ?
    
    assbot: Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1ya4yHX )
    
    BingoBoingo: Indeed
    
    mircea_popescu: aha
    
    mircea_popescu: lol. for all the redditard "consensus" and "Community" i can never find someone to write me a fucking short worth ten bucks on their idiotic ideas.
    
    mircea_popescu: nobody wants to buy gavincoins atm, either. been asking around, zilch actual support
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16781 @ 0.00058654 = 9.8427 BTC [+] {2} 
    
    mircea_popescu: "oh there's 100% support with the gab, 0% support with the purse, how could this not succeed"
    
    asciilifeform: same as the buterin thing
    
    mircea_popescu: PeterL: anybody guess the probability ethereum ever becomes a working thing? << epsilon, when it was announced. that was a while back.
    
    mircea_popescu: wow mthreat's in da house. how goes man ?
    
    assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2880 @ 0.00058725 = 1.6913 BTC [+]