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thestringpuller: stop taking my money steam
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cazalla: thestringpuller, sale is pretty shitty, nothing i really wanted
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BingoBoingo: ;;later tell hanbot In the new Trilema header
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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adlai: rye's checkin
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BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
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rithm: blame canada, blame canada
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BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
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BingoBoingo: !up Namworld
kakobrekla: >All this because of the stupid AUSTRIAN RAIFFEISENBANK, that confuses servng clients with serving prisoners in Konzentrationslager Mauthausen.
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kakobrekla: also this is lulzy > “When bitcoin first came out, I was on the cryptography mailing list. When it happened, I sort of laughed. Because I had already proven that decentralized consensus was impossible.”
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: impossible << lamport ?
kakobrekla: Gregory Maxwell
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mod6: lel
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assbot: ClubOrlov: The Imperial Collapse Playbook ... ( http://bit.ly/1ztTX5t )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: He nails the point where Anglophones are fascinated about culturing instability with anti-[fill-in-the-blank]
asciilifeform: peculiar omission of korea in his list
asciilifeform: somebody wake up mr. o
BingoBoingo: Is Korea really an actual united enough thing to have ever had an anti?
asciilifeform: sk is the anti.
asciilifeform: (not slovakia. south kr.)
BingoBoingo: All Korea's pretty much been other people's colony. That there's an independent Korea or korea is probably the farce.
asciilifeform: until approx. 1980, nk was the industrial power, and the south was a pisshole.
asciilifeform: it took decades of 'international komyoonity' blockading, conniving, sabotage, favourite-son dealing, to change this.
BingoBoingo: The family line of succession probably didn't help things. Man who did things, Son of man who did things, Son of Son
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: that's why it is called best korea
asciilifeform: to borrow mircea's analogy re: french empire, 'at this point atmosphere there is quite like that in hitler's bunker'
asciilifeform: everyone who laughs at nk should sit down for five minutes and imagine what they'd do as king there
asciilifeform: other than 'surrender'
thestringpuller: i would make everyone do science
thestringpuller: i would put all military funding into science!
thestringpuller: get some kinda of clean energy dem those niggas will come to me
BingoBoingo: Well, North Korea has legal marijauana. Leverage that into European tourism. Follow with Pope mediated negotions with Obola. Open US trade. Appoint a patsy president. Move to Macau and read about the Color revolution in the Newspaper.
asciilifeform: ^ surrender
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: it's funny how
thestringpuller: colorado is the richest state in its block now
thestringpuller: all funded by pot heads
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure it's surrender. If anything it's a more graceful one than Idi Amin had before living out his days in a House of Saud zoo.
BingoBoingo: It's the option the Castros are taking. They just haven't left yet. Raoul is Probably hoping Fidel can get a dignified state burial before he jumps ship.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: a surrender that may or may not be accepted.
BingoBoingo: Of course. USia is far less civilized now than it was when Idi Amin held the Scottish throne.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: current king probably weighed his chances of ending up as an example, like hussein, milosevich, others who dared to stand up to anglo.
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BingoBoingo: Or like Ghaddafi who cooperated with Anglos in the end.
asciilifeform: 'The bonus question is, what sort of anti-America will these parasites set up inside America before they abandon their host and scatter to their fortified compounds in undisclosed locations around the world? Or will they not even bother, and just provoke a war of all against all?'
BingoBoingo: Texas.
asciilifeform: 'pseudoliberal/pseudoconservative indoctrination and university- and church-based brainwashing that put it in place, cost them a pretty penny... ...How about leveraging it to organize some sort of rabidly homophobic racist fundamentalist separatist enclave somewhere down south? Or perhaps one somewhere in the north, where zoophilia is de rigeur while heterosexual intercourse requires a special permit from a committee stocked w
asciilifeform: ith graduates in women's studies?'
BingoBoingo: There's also the chance that they want to break things up into enough enclaves that sme sort of conflict homeostasis between them might be the norm.
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BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch
assbot: Collected Points From the NSA's Recent Document Dump | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BlbOO2 )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: just read the bloody things, there isn't all that much to read.
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thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: Texas << It's interesting what Texas does in most fictional scenarios in a post apocalyptic world.
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BingoBoingo: Honestly Texas is probably going to hell the fastest
thestringpuller: It's like New Mexico, but with oil I thought.
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BingoBoingo: New Mexico has oil to. Texas's problem is Los Zetas et al are better organized than any Texan force.
TomServo: BingoBoingo: Did you accidently a word in the second sentence?
TomServo: In addition to the unsurprising post-Snowden _____? that NSA analysts routinely...
TomServo: revelation?
BingoBoingo: TomServo: Thanks.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: your article is still off
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the Spiegel wasn't writing about the official Christmas dump
asciilifeform: but a separate, parallel snowden one
asciilifeform: (leaving aside the question of whether mr s is a hangout)
asciilifeform: how did you read either one and not realize this ?
BingoBoingo: Mixed up Der Speigel articles when linking, fixed
TomServo: asciilifeform: what do you mean 'is a hangout'?
BingoBoingo: Too many tabs open.
asciilifeform: TomServo: 'hangout' is the traditional english term for disinfo
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BingoBoingo: The worst part of this clusterfuck of errors is I haven't even had a drink yet. Fucking language learning app on the new pet android device robbing my brain of all of its glucose.
BingoBoingo: !up austeritysucks
decimation: asciilifeform: re: illegal radios << yes, this is a route. unfortunately usg is good at finding such products and crushing their makers
asciilifeform: decimation: this is why the usual concepts of 'product' and 'market' are to be avoided there.
asciilifeform: decimation: the relevant boojums are to be produced either in underground workshops, like grenades during warsaw ghetto uprising, or in a foreign land and smuggled in
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adlai: BingoBoingo: what language are you learning
BingoBoingo: Spanish, again. Just the pace of the thing is draining. Maybe... also tried Swahili.
kakobrekla: lol lizard squad lauches 'ddos for bitcoin' service, on a website protected with cloudflare.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: mega-lol!
asciilifeform: why does this need a www site ?
asciilifeform: should accept commands via blockchain telegraph.
kakobrekla: then you cant use couldflare :(
asciilifeform: why the fuck one needs cloudflare or whatever, if blockchain telegraph ?
kakobrekla: exactly.
asciilifeform confused
kakobrekla: makes me think lizard are affiliated with cf.
BingoBoingo: Because when your hammer is a DoS, every nail is a website
kakobrekla: classic mobster scenario, "pay us so nothing bad happens to your store."
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kakobrekla: ofc you need to make up the crime as well.
decimation: kakobrekla: yeah but in this case they originally said they did it on principle
decimation: to 'improve security' to help the little people
kakobrekla: yes like the nsa.
decimation: the rwcg guy nitpicked the paul graham immigration essay https://rwcg.wordpress.com/2014/12/29/paul-graham-on-immigration/
assbot: Paul Graham on immigration | RWCG ... ( http://bit.ly/1xeEUj4 )
decimation: "So basically I’m being told that this is a foreign worker who might add 100X in value and you only have to pay them X.
decimation: Oh please, go on, do tell me that this isn’t just about cost saving."
kakobrekla: !up BlueMeanie4
asciilifeform: 'Question: why doesn’t this hypothetical guy, if he’s so ‘great’ and ‘exceptional’, just do his own thing? What’s he need Initrode for? Why should he move to a 2 BR/2 BA in Sunnyvale, CA to get a biweekly paycheck?'
asciilifeform: of course, if you read pg's piece correctly (i.e. substitute 'exceptionally obedient coolie' for 'exceptional programmer', the contradictions are instamagically resolved.
kakobrekla: lol sunnyvale tpb reference?
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asciilifeform: now i'd like to learn,
asciilifeform: how 'exceptional' of a programmer does one need to become, to leave usa ?
decimation: asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: brings to mind an old saw re: certain places, 'Вход – рубль, выход – два' (entry - one coin, exit - costs two)
asciilifeform: (originally spoken re: various mafias, e.g. intelligence agencies)
decimation: asciilifeform: or 'exit' through the coffin-burner
asciilifeform: that one - free.
decimation: in the end, Stierlitz goes back to Berlin
assbot: Huge salt spill at Morton Salt in /hashtag/Chicago?src=hash. Will they shovel it over their left shoulders? http://t.co/Ic8vAUuedb
decimation: oh I thought it went into lake Michigan or something
assbot: Report finds police officers killed on duty spiked in 2014. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xeGEIY )
assbot: CIA takes blame for more than half of UFO sightings in late 1950s and 60s | VentureBeat | Business | by Daniel Terdiman ... ( http://bit.ly/1zugPSk )
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fluffypony: !search vladimir
assbot: 23 results for 'vladimir' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=vladimir
fluffypony: <mircea_popescu> btw, since i've been reading my old romanian bitcoin articles, landed on some gems. anyone remembers vladimir's asic ? <- what was the story there?
kakobrekla: another thing that never happened
kakobrekla: there were a bunch of other nonhappening asics at the time
kakobrekla: i dun think he was the first and certainly not last.
asciilifeform: afaik it hasn't happened yet, even.
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assbot: Logged on 08-12-2014 18:26:51; asciilifeform: (re: miner asics: anyone who gives a damn can find, in #b-a logs, my reasonably well-supported hypothesis that miner asic never actually -happened.- that is, there are devices, and they - approximately - work, but they are not 'asics' in the traditional sense. more 'hardcopy fpga.' - actual term of art)
asciilifeform: and, to return to that old thread, i still think that mircea is mistaken about the current crop of miners being something other than 'structured asic'
asciilifeform: the latter isn't simply a non-reprogrammable fpga; it has the LUTs of fpga, but with 'wiring' baked into the metallization layers, rather than fpga-style switching fabric
fluffypony: kakobrekla: yeah but was Vladimir generally a scammer, or just an isolated incident?
asciilifeform: but 'structured asic' is still not a real asic.
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kakobrekla: fluffypony he was just too irrogant.
kakobrekla: so if i tell you im compiling the latest bitcoind on an ARM could, do i get expelled from here?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i actually did this at one point.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: on, if i recall, a 'raspberry'
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: it worked, but that particular chip/board had uncommonly slow i/o, it was nearly unusable
asciilifeform: speaking of arm,
asciilifeform just today finished a ~3 week, all-waking-hours death marathon of 'arm' reversing. 'jailbroke' a [censored] (rare laboratory instrument)
kakobrekla: dunno how it compares to rpi, this one has 2 gigs of ram and 4 cores
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: interesting - who makes these ?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: and where are they ordinarily found ?
assbot: Why French telecom Iliad is launching an ARM-based cloud service -- and why it matters | VentureBeat | Cloud | by Jordan Novet ... ( http://bit.ly/1x24KXA )
assbot: Logged on 25-12-2014 03:52:10; asciilifeform: every day i wonder why the 'arm' architecture so thoroughly beat 'mips' (closest competitor in the 'risc' world) in the markets
kakobrekla: yes i was reading it real time.
asciilifeform: ' quietly cornered the market in applications where 1) no winblows legacy 2) computation/watt ratio actually matters
asciilifeform: while being a heavily patent-encumbered, baroquely-architectured turd.
asciilifeform: china is cranking out arm clones by the billion, and certainly not all of these roll in the royalty? how does it square with my hypothesis? answer - perfectly.
asciilifeform: just like ussr stamped out single-crystal pdp-11 clones by the millions.
asciilifeform: and for the same reason
asciilifeform: to use 'w4r3z'
asciilifeform: or, more commonly, plagiarized subroutines
asciilifeform: the confucian kingdoms breathe plagiarism like air.
asciilifeform: 'mips' is superior, imho, in virtually every way - and they would crank out mips-en, but where then to crib code wholesale and piecemeal ?
asciilifeform: 'we use arm because everyone uses arm'
asciilifeform: http://labs.online.net/try-it << doesn't appear to work
assbot: Online Labs - ARM servers in the cloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1x269NK )
kakobrekla: works here
kakobrekla: but im not using this, was given a free instance a month or so ago.
kakobrekla: want an invite? if you apply below you will get it never.
kakobrekla: if i send it, it may arrive sometime.
kakobrekla: looks like i can also raise another instance
kakobrekla: if you wanna.
kakobrekla: well lemme know, invite or instance ill brb.
decimation: asciilifeform: there is a direct parallel between the 'bubble' that is arm/x86 and the 'bubble' that is 'USD'
decimation: 'We use it because everyone else uses it'
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: thx, but i don't need these for anything
kakobrekla: dicking around i thought.
decimation: if you want to be the dominant computer arch, you want to be the arch that will host the most warez - in the future
asciilifeform: decimation: this means 'be the darling of the usg crown'
decimation: well, certainly one cannot be enemies with usg or usg's agents
asciilifeform: because that is who ultimately decides what is used in the great slave mines of usa
asciilifeform: incidentally, i bring up 'arm' to remind folks that we are quickly approaching (or perhaps past) the point of being stuck with a turd every bit as odious as x86
asciilifeform: at least intel no longer collects royalties for x86. and does not directly supply the circuit to every producer
asciilifeform: arm - does.
decimation: plus arm comes in 1000 variants
asciilifeform: the instruction set is 'risc' in name only
asciilifeform: it's a mind-blowingly complex piece of shit.
decimation: I was chatting with some cyanogen mod developers about a particular arm-based phone
asciilifeform: iirc, it was designed by a woman. i won't psychiatrize on this point, but let's see what mircea makes of it!
decimation: apparently it is common practice for the vendor to ship broken hardware and paper over defects with a special google-blessed turdware
decimation: also, certain hardware variants of phones are known to have problems with battery discharge, etc
decimation: I mention this because nearly all arm chips come baked in a SoC
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BingoBoingo: Don't worry. China is baking up Loongson so that there will be another turdwarez platform when the USG can no longer prop up Arm.
kakobrekla: myea, best to trust china :)
decimation: loongson is a mips64 variant
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: afaik it isn't exactly a flying success.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: for instance, i'm unable to find it advertised for sale at anything like a reasonable price, anywhere on the planet
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For a long time ARM wasn't either. The point is it exists at the moment mostly to build history so it might seem a credible option later.
decimation: lol the latest version has 'new instructions' in order to emulate x86 according to wikipedia
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nothing is being built particular to it!
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the most that exists is a very straight linux port.
decimation: apparently the best chips are only on the 28nm process
BingoBoingo: Linux ports, BSD (kernel) ports, Windows CE ports...
decimation: it's sad that some enterprising chinaman doesn't try to steal fpga designs/warez
decimation: as asciilifeform has explained in the past, this isn't in their 'dna', but who knows
decimation: perhaps they are an engine waiting for the right driver (to use mircea's analogy)
asciilifeform: i also explained that they have no economic incentive at all to do this.
decimation: the only incentive I can imagine is if the chinese gov't decides to subsidize the project
decimation: but then they wouldn't 'open source' anything
BingoBoingo: Loongson seems to be a "parachute"
BingoBoingo: for China
asciilifeform: according to one source, it's actually a grantsmanship/embezzlement scheme against chinese gov.
asciilifeform: rather than an actual product with a future.
BingoBoingo: Could be both.
kakobrekla: first 1/3 of blockchain is less than 500mb.
kakobrekla: i knew it was small but never actually checked
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BingoBoingo: !Up badon
assbot: The KKK must stay on the curb in Desloge, Mo. : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1tiPO1X )
assbot: In Defense of Looting – The New Inquiry ... ( http://bit.ly/1tiQpkk )
asciilifeform: trololol!!!
asciilifeform: 'He retorts the all too common accusation thrown at rioters: “People wanna say we destroying our own neighborhoods. We don’t own nothing out here!”' << what does white man own in usa ?
BingoBoingo: I only link it, because apparently tonight there has been yet another shooting incident in Ferguson. No idea yet if a person has been shot.
asciilifeform: what do 'they' normally shoot there?
asciilifeform: road signs ?
BingoBoingo: Normally they just shoot, but lack the marksmanship to hit anything at all.
BingoBoingo: 'He retorts the all too common accusation thrown at rioters: “People wanna say we destroying our own neighborhoods. We don’t own nothing out here!”' << what does white man own in usa ? << Common mistake of using the general "white man", Whiteman own nothing for being white. Anglo-Saxon-Lizard hybrids though...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, the rioters have no truck with lizard hitler; they protest against an imagined comfortable white suburbanite
asciilifeform: who somehow lives off their tears
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But to them the white suburbanites have scales.
BingoBoingo: They know of comfortable white suburbanites, but infrequently see them outside of police uniforms.
BingoBoingo: Or at least they did until they moved to Ferguson.
BingoBoingo: And then the comfortable white suburbanites went to more comfortable and more suburban places. Leaving them with white trash
BingoBoingo: But, this being America no one really owns anything.
undata: the looting is just a more illiterate version of the same entitlement the white trash has
undata: everybody in america thinks they were somehow robbed of making it big like everyone else did
BingoBoingo: I dunno that it is much more illiterate. I've met plenty of dumb white folk.
undata: for sure
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asciilifeform: neglected detail being, most of the participants, as i understand, aren't ideologically moved
asciilifeform: they go out, same as in usg-sponsored 'colour revolutions', because 'there's action tonight'
asciilifeform: and it's more entertaining than rotgut and tv news.
undata: asciilifeform: yep, during the recent portland "protest" I found a livestream of some hipster there; he was flirting with a girl for the 20sec I watched
BingoBoingo: But... the 3d printed gun dude says burn it all down is an ideology...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: then forest fire has ideology
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undata: rather, "if it sells"
BingoBoingo: Of course. Fire has metabolism, so it is a living thing. I kill about 20 fires a day when I put out my cigarettes.
BingoBoingo: undata: Chicago this year is poor example. They had a relatively peaceful year... for SHitcago.
undata: BingoBoingo: the video's full of fakers flashing guns
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Pierre_Rochard: Hi, I was starting to miss this place
BingoBoingo: Well,... You know IRC is always open... Even when MP's on a vacation that's apparently growing tits
Pierre_Rochard: I’ll have to cook up a script that logs me in and auths automatically whenever I open my laptop, there’s a pyschological barrier when I have a pile of work to do
Pierre_Rochard: that keeps me from opening it myself, but doesn’t keep me off twitter haha
BingoBoingo: Ah, that problem
BingoBoingo: Everyone has to solve it in their own way
undata: Pierre_Rochard: there's always a bouncer
undata: weechat has a pretty nice relay mechanism
BingoBoingo: Come on there isn't a single personal server need that isn't well served by emacs.
undata: BingoBoingo: oh I love emacs; still need something for when you shut the laptop though
BingoBoingo: undata: WHy are you running an emacs IRC bouncer locally on a laptop?
undata: I am not
undata: emacs is on the laptop, mail and IRC are elsewhere
BingoBoingo: Can you not run emacs elsewhere?
undata: why do that when I can get out to elsewhere via tramp?
undata: I've got a pretty dialed in emacs+stumpwm combo I'm happy with locally
undata: weechat.el speaks the weechat IRC relay protocol, and there's mu4e + offlineimap for mail
BingoBoingo: undata: Are you really listing all of these particular pieces of software you depend on.
undata: BingoBoingo: you're going to what, attack me via the locally running emacs?
BingoBoingo: No, but... you never know who's reading.
undata: sound advice but I left out plenty
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00064808 = 7.0317 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: OMG MP vacation has been one of the best things to happen to MPOE price... aside from saving OpenBSD.
BingoBoingo: !up jborkl
jborkl: Hey
jborkl: Next article you write for qntra link to me, I will link back
BingoBoingo: jborkl: Shhh... Google would find it, public log and all.
BingoBoingo: Matt Cutts will punish us all!!!
jborkl: Haha yeah we don't want to shit on by the panda
BingoBoingo: Bamboo shits are the worst.
jborkl: Hell yeah
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.computerra.ru/112660/mcst-and-micron-releases-monokub-mb-with-elbrus-2cm-cpu << i don't feel like translating, but - first ru-designed cpu, afaik, this century - hits the press.
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asciilifeform: ru-designed mb too - but with, looks like, heathen peripherals
asciilifeform: and of course entirely unobtainable in mordor
asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't make this, has no idea how much plagiarized heathen 'verilog' etc. is in that thing.
asciilifeform: in other news,
asciilifeform: https://trmm.net/EFI << for some reason nobody brought this up here
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asciilifeform: (summary: crapple bios diddler using subverted external peripheral)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Imma guess OpenSparc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not explicitly.
BingoBoingo: Not explicitly, but... Just going off of what my gut feels reading a machine translation
BingoBoingo: Just seeing that combination of busses has me thinking OpenSparc.
BingoBoingo: I could be very wrong.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems like it's a perverse vliw-ized sparc.
BingoBoingo: Well, isn't that all Open SParc is?
asciilifeform: iirc opensparc is a mostly-traditional sparc.
asciilifeform: anyone who wants one - can go get (it builds for the larger among the common fpga)
asciilifeform blows dust off ancient crate
BingoBoingo: Well, crippled in ways. The seemingly easy ways to uncripple for hardcopy rather than rewritable FPGAs is to VLIW it.
asciilifeform: crippled how ?
BingoBoingo: The same way BFL FPGA miners were crippled. Adapted for winblows shit toolchain instead of whatever archane elder less smelly turdchain sun nursed internally.
BingoBoingo: We're talking a company (Sun) that took more than a decade to realize they could assemble systems on benches instead of the floor. They have to have/had a legacy non-winblows tool chain that might still be in use.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: whatcha talking about, i built it sans winblows
asciilifeform: closes xilinx turd, yes
asciilifeform: *closed
asciilifeform: but no winblows in sight
BingoBoingo: Sure, but what sphicter sculpts the Xilinx turd.
asciilifeform: but the answer to the puzzle of what sun used for logic synthesis - i haven't any idea
asciilifeform: thing is, synthesis for proper asic is nothing like fpga synthesis
asciilifeform: fundamentally different problems
BingoBoingo: Well, considering Solaris 8 did webserving for them well into the solaris 10 life cycle... Prolly Sun OS 3
asciilifeform: fpga is internally very much like the well-known 'eniac'
asciilifeform: with an sram-controlled plugboard rather than physical one
asciilifeform: but the machinery that is 'plugged' together - does not move.
asciilifeform: whereas when you lay out logic for a traditionally fabbed ic, the circuits, well, 'move'
asciilifeform: in that they get placed how you like
asciilifeform: within the constraints of the available chemistry and lithography
BingoBoingo really wants a fucking time machine
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.mcst.ru/doc/book_121130.pdf << because you asked. textbook, 'elbrus' system architecture.
BingoBoingo: From machine translation: Since the structure of stacks of information and communication procedures identical
BingoBoingo: lie in wait, the principle of operation of pumping consider the relation
BingoBoingo: stack procedures. Education evacuation area shown in Fig. 3.7, where
BingoBoingo: it is shown in the pie chart. Its application is based on the cyclic
BingoBoingo: cal resource allocation register file in the formation of the windows:
BingoBoingo: after using the register number 0x6f next number will be
BingoBoingo: 0x00 (borders of windows aligned to kvadroslovu, so the number of pairs
BingoBoingo: registers equals 112).
BingoBoingo: ^ Reeks of Sparcisms
BingoBoingo: It's hard not to.
BingoBoingo: Today is far from my best day
asciilifeform: http://russian.rt.com/article/67122 << another current mega-lol. ua fission plant installs 'westinghouse' fuel rods, begins to leak.
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asciilifeform: (or so claimed)
BingoBoingo: Westinghouse is kind of a knock off GE
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00064226 = 12.4598 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: 'Die another Day' I think was the James Bond movie that had this same plot point.
thestringpuller: that was a good film
thestringpuller: when bond girls were still legit hot
thestringpuller: so just saw a news special about a guy who got electrocuted installing a 35k watt lamp on a movie set
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thestringpuller: the doctors have no idea why he's fucked up, but they are like "Yea, well he got shocked so that has something to do with it."
BingoBoingo: How many amps?
thestringpuller: i'll find out
thestringpuller: ;;calc 18000 / 220
gribble: 81.8181818182
thestringpuller: probably less cause that's waht the volt Snake Bite was rated at (220)
BingoBoingo: .1 amp can kill, so... yeah
thestringpuller: set electricians IMO have riskier jobs than power engineers
thestringpuller: set electricals are by definition nigga rigged cause they are temporary. always wanted to be a gaffer/set technician myself, but man.
thestringpuller: "Young negro found dead on set of Mean Girls 3" or some shit they let me work on.
BingoBoingo: Plain current though doesn't put the fear into me though like RF current does... Reasons I never got into Radio
thestringpuller: the unsung heroes
thestringpuller: tower climbing alone puts the fear of god into me
BingoBoingo: I don't have a problem with climbing. I have a problem with the possibility of falling.
thestringpuller: i wouldn't mind the risk so much if the chance of accidents also provided a chance of developing super powers
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17981 @ 0.00064226 = 11.5485 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: 'Turns out through the S3 API you can actually spin up EC2 instances, and my key had been spotted by a bot that continually searches GitHub for API keys. Amazon AWS customer support informed me this happens a lot recently, hackers have created an algorithm that searches GitHub 24 hours per day for API keys… Once it finds one it spins up max instances of EC2 servers to farm itself bitcoins…' << mega-lol!
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064982 = 7.4079 BTC [+]
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thestringpuller: another dead hero
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
devthedev: BingoBoingo, killing me man
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Who am I not?
BingoBoingo: Serious I prolly have a file and it prolly has blanks. Am I missing anybody?
devthedev: The reply aught to be interesting
BingoBoingo: Eh. If anyone takes relationship advice from me they deserve whatever calamity befalls them.
devthedev: Ouch
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Not necessarily ouch to me. You have to remember the part where generally I am a despicable human being.
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asciilifeform just about emptied wallet paying mr. p for conference-3 ticket. invites #b-a folks to laugh.
asciilifeform would have been less said to spend equivalent, e.g., usd, heap
asciilifeform: *less sad
asciilifeform: difference is that i can always get more usd.
asciilifeform: it isn't especially hard
asciilifeform: spending btc is like fissioning away old soviet Pu.
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