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Vexual: internets moving to radio when people stop wasting bandwidth nayways
RagnarDanneskjol: !up Vexual
punkman: TIL they still make Amigas http://www.a-eon.com/?page=x1000
assbot: A-EON Technology Ltd ... ( http://bit.ly/1sIpkXi )
asciilifeform: ages-old news
Vexual: asccilifeform, you snore like luke-jr considers the book of satoshi a mortal sin
Vexual: tell us about it, i know nothing of amigas
asciilifeform: as i understand, the linked machine is actually a ppc with emulator in rom
asciilifeform: so unlike actual amiga, it has - for instance - a palpable boot time.
asciilifeform: boo. fail.
Vexual: prolly "cool" for making dubstep tho right?
Vexual: you don't know what dubstep is
asciilifeform in fact does not
Vexual: me neither really
asciilifeform: 'For they're done with Danny Deever, you can 'ear the dubstep play / The regiment's in column, an' they're marchin' us away; / Ho! the young recruits are shakin', an' they'll want their beer to-day, / After hangin' Danny Deever in the mornin'.'
Vexual: is that a mashup?
Vexual: (beastieboys and nas too many rappers[not enuff mcs])
decimation: !up Vexual
assbot: 2 MANY DJs - Beatles Vs Kraftwerk - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6syez )
decimation: lol http://www.securityweek.com/hackers-used-sophisticated-smb-worm-tool-attack-sony << best korean hackers used phishing, mail attachments, and a lame smb bot
assbot: Hackers Used Sophisticated SMB Worm Tool to Attack Sony | SecurityWeek.Com ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6sE5Q )
decimation: apparently the entire sony intranet was loaded on easily guessed windows shares
decimation: no word on whether microsoft is going to be held liable for ridiculously poor engineering
decimation: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/news/possible-g1g2-geomagnetic-storms << possible geomagnetic storms this weekend, those north of the us border ought to consider looking out for aurorae
assbot: Possible G1/G2 Geomagnetic Storms | NOAA / NWS Space Weather Prediction Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6sV8U )
Vexual: wait, is g bigger than x?
Vexual: nothings bigger than x
Vexual: reminds you to paperwallet andd dejavu tho
decimation: Vexual: "X" is a class of solar flare, "G" is a class of geomagnetic storm
decimation: in a separate matter, there was an X1 class flare a few hours ago
Vexual: oh, diff classifications? it this big then?
asciilifeform: when microshit is held liable for crapware, i will begin commuting to werk on flying pig.
decimation: it's possible that it could eject matter toward the earth, which could result in a geomagnetic storm in 2-3 days
Vexual: x1 might just hit me when it come s around on the guitar
decimation: asciilifeform: it's enraging that microsoft's shit code & best korean meddling will now be used to justify more derp-o-matics from various usg departments
Vexual: yeah it's almost too perfect
asciilifeform: decimation: believe literally nothing usg (or sk) sources ever said, since day 1, re: 'best korea.'
decimation: asciilifeform: but they offered 'proofs'! 1.) they had IP addresses 2.) they knew it was them!
asciilifeform: afaik every word of the history of the two koreas available in the english language, since the first days leading up to the war, is a cheap fabrication.
decimation: my great uncle died on the dmz during the pointless dicking around known as 'peace talks'
decimation: the reason the korean war is the 'forgotten war' is that the brave new 'united nations' (wwii allies) were supposed to act in harmony and peace to prevent that kind of clusterfuck
decimation: but the actual history of that actual conflict was to demonstrate how the un shit itself in bed
asciilifeform: also because sk (usg muppet) was the aggressor.
assbot: Let Me Down Easy by Max Frost - Hear the world’s sounds ... ( http://bit.ly/1HdBDla )
asciilifeform doesn't automatically dislike would-be conquerors, but isn't fond of liars
Vexual: a tranny actually put a turbo in my car
decimation: asciilifeform: from a bigger picture, the korean war was a direct consequence of the us failure to crush mao
assbot: A Fine Way To Die Ft. Orlando Napier by GRiZ - Hear the world’s sounds ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6tQpK )
asciilifeform: decimation: in much the same sense as ww2 was the fault of that derp who lamented his failure to shoot hitler
assbot: S Korea disbands 'pro-North' political party - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6tT55 )
asciilifeform: mats: in sk, it is a jailable offense to so much as utter something vaguely positive about nk
mats: "South Korea's Constitutional Court has ruled to disband a minority left-wing party and strip its five members of parliament of their seats after accusing them of pro-North Korea activities that it said violated the basic principles of free democracy." << pregnant with irony, this
decimation: asciilifeform: not so, the lefties have taken over there quite considerably
Vexual: i wouldnt even say anything from here ascii
asciilifeform: sk has always stood for this.
asciilifeform: eager muppet of usg since day one.
asciilifeform: by design, of course.
decimation: asciilifeform: the government to some degree, yes, but the people are quite tired of usg camping there
asciilifeform: quite the same creature as the old south vietnam
asciilifeform: who ever thought of asking 'the people'
asciilifeform: does farmer ask cows?
Vexual: yes
Vexual: effectually
Vexual: people arent cows tho
Vexual: one can't just look at the tits and get the required feedback
assbot: Baby Bash - Suga Suga (Jerry Folk Remix) by Jerry Folk - Hear the world’s sounds ... ( http://bit.ly/1HdDM0m )
Vexual: good music matty
Vexual: shout out to punk for the excellent interface too
Vexual: id never heard that kraftwerk
mats: ive got three weeks off
mats: feels good man
mats: now i can read these papers ive been putting off
mats: http://www.scs.stanford.edu/nyu/02fa/sched/xfs.pdf << scalability in the xfs file system
mats: http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs240/readings/vms.pdf << virtual memory management in vax/vms
assbot: Objet non trouv&eacute; ! ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6uSCq )
assbot: Entertaining Africa - Innovate Africa - Al Jazeera English ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6vsjv )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44498 @ 0.00060085 = 26.7366 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00060677 = 14.8052 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41655 @ 0.00059674 = 24.8572 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 178 @ 0.00687977 = 1.2246 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36442 @ 0.00059375 = 21.6374 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37350 @ 0.00056393 = 21.0628 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1852 @ 0.00917821 = 16.998 BTC [-]
assbot: Vexual +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 539 @ 0.00684 = 3.6868 BTC [-]
assbot: VexmissesMirca +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00056657 = 11.9546 BTC [+] {2}
Apocalyptic: redditards can ask for whatever they want and keep on luring themselves to the illusion of relevance
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00057192 = 10.9237 BTC [+]
assbot: SecurityNotice < Main < NTP ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hff9Ak )
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1361 @ 0.0012 = 1.6332 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 276 @ 0.00684 = 1.8878 BTC [-]
PeterL: ;;later tell jurov did CoinBR not pass through december dividends for S.MPOE and S.BBET?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40293 @ 0.00062021 = 24.9901 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00057808 = 10.1453 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42865 @ 0.00057808 = 24.7794 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00057808 = 7.2838 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1500 @ 0.0012 = 1.8 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 3279 @ 0.0012 = 3.9348 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59800 @ 0.00057933 = 34.6439 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: Apocalyptic: that's what I like to hear.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34490 @ 0.00058401 = 20.1425 BTC [+]
jurov: ;;later tell PeterL will check
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00057741 = 12.8185 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 17000 @ 0.0012 = 20.4 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32000 @ 0.00057295 = 18.3344 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: !s librem 15
assbot: 0 results for 'librem 15' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=librem+15
assbot: Librem 15: A Free/Libre Software Laptop That Respects Your Essential Freedoms | Crowd Supply ... ( http://bit.ly/1wA7gE8 )
kakobrekla: lol only now i see Intel i7-4770HQ
kakobrekla: i thought for a second it was that other thing that also looks like mac.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.11999992 = 1.08 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18570 @ 0.00057192 = 10.6206 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 12500 @ 0.0012 = 15 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.12497998 = 1.8747 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: seeing bingoboingo is not around atm, anyone able to lend me their technical expertise on a document?
thestringpuller: i dunno how much I can help lol
Adlai: my "expertise" is always for rent, who knows how relevant it is
mats: sure, i've been reading mountains of case law
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00056786 = 3.1232 BTC [-]
mats: or is that not what you're talking about
cazalla: it's all good, gonna just post it up and people can come to own conclusions
Adlai: whatever happened to the digest-redact-encrypt model of leakage chumpioned by assange et al?
mats: p sure that was snowden you're talking about
mats: never mind.
mats: though, as i remember it, assange opposed any kind of redaction, and left wikileaks over it
assbot: Julian Assange on Snowden, disliking Google, and his “inevitable” freedom | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1vbR73v )
Adlai: hmm, dunno. some book about assange mentioned that wikileaks was redacting sensitive info in documents from day one.
Adlai: oh is this the evidence + objections?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10969 @ 0.00057032 = 6.2558 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: 'Purism is manufacturing the motherboard, and screen printing the keyboard.' << piece of shit. printed key marks - come off.
asciilifeform: molded - never.
asciilifeform: 'the BIOS does use coreboot, which includes a binary from Intel, called FSP.' << ahahahaha lol
asciilifeform: 'We are working with Intel to allow us to scrub, release, and maintain the source for this, but haven’t finalized that yet. We are devoted to freeing this binary.' << pigs will fly.
asciilifeform: anyone here ever try actually building any of the supposedly 'open' sources ever put out by intel ?
asciilifeform: i have.
asciilifeform: 1) they don't build 2) you need winblows even to try, and the entire build scheme consists of winblows 'bat' files.
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/12/four-bitcoin-based-projects-from-mit-students/ <<< beyond me to gauge whether good or not, perhaps someone *cough* bingoboingo wru *cough* might know better, just a bunch of links really
assbot: Four Bitcoin Based Projects From MIT Students | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vbT9jW )
asciilifeform: can't resist pointing out that 'mostly open' machine is not unlike mostly-turd-free dinner
kakobrekla: canonical solution to this problem is a mixer that receives \dirty" Bitcoins from
kakobrekla: many users, routes them all through a single mixing address, and dispenses them
kakobrekla: back out to new \clean" output addresses in a random order, or at random times.
kakobrekla: hmm, i wonder if i seen this before?
asciilifeform: 'the Management Engine... is a separate microcontroller embedded in the PCH and has a full network stack, has access to DMA and other nasty things. The firmware is signed by Intel and verified at each boot by the microcontroller, and if the firmware signature fails to verify correctly, the x86 cpu will not be allowed to boot... We must get that freed by Intel' << lol!!!
asciilifeform: who wants to buy this? down's syndrome cases ?
kakobrekla: at least someone is having fun
asciilifeform: labeled as, remember, 'first 0p3n!!!11! laptop'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1026 @ 0.0012 = 1.2312 BTC
asciilifeform: 'So, sure, it's pure to build without the microcode blob, which means in reality that you're deciding to use the microcode blob *already embedded in the CPU*. And, on many new CPUs, the one that comes with the CPU has issues that mean you won't get past DRAM init. And, if you do get past DRAM init and boot, you've got a CPU that may have subtle errors and corrupt memory.' << this is an interesting and little-known fact
asciilifeform: which i have verified personally
asciilifeform: ever wonder how intel sells to both usg and plebes ?
asciilifeform: supposedly the same items
asciilifeform: in reality - not at all the same.
asciilifeform: (for those unfamiliar with the subject, 'microcode' is best imagined as a kind of 'piano roll' of toggles which get flipped when a particular instruction is encountered by cpu. this in turn actually cranks the ALUs, pipeline stages, all the other familiar components.)
asciilifeform: 'Purism Installs TOR by Default' << l0l! cherry on the cake!
asciilifeform: incidentally, that thing contains the ubiquitous RTL8111 (ethernet) chip
asciilifeform: which has embedded firmware
asciilifeform: no mention of this on the site, that i can see
Adlai: could they pick a name that doesn't remind me of mitochondrially transmitted religions?
asciilifeform: https://www.crowdsupply.com/inverse-path/usb-armory << another mega-lol. trust our magical trust chip, infused with powerful all-purpose trust juice !
assbot: USB Armory: Open Source USB Stick Computer | Crowd Supply ... ( http://bit.ly/1vbVQSE )
dignork: asciilifeform: similar device https://hardwarewallet.com/ afaik no public firmware.
assbot: HardwareWallet.com - Secure USB smart card based wallet for bitcoin based crypto-currencies ... ( http://bit.ly/1vbWoYF )
asciilifeform: dignork: nah, the linked board is at least useful for something around the house (it's a generic arm-based microcomputer)
asciilifeform: just that it is being specifically pushed, with conscious malice, as 'auditable', 'open', and even 'resistant to supply chain attacks'
dignork: well, grassroots naive engineering, they asume doing minimal amount of integration work ona product, makes it 'open' 'free' etc.
dignork: in fact they are right - their work indeed might be both free and open.
asciilifeform: the fundamental confusion is, as always, between effort and product.
asciilifeform: 'but we tried! we oughta get points'
mats: asciilifeform shitting on another man's dream
mats: brutal takedown:(
asciilifeform: 'the sleep of reason produces monsters.'
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 598 @ 0.00358528 = 2.144 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 27833 @ 0.00011738 = 3.267 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Gunman kills self after 2 NYPD cops fatally shot ‘execution style’ as ‘revenge’ for Garner | New York Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cft0Zg )
ben_vulpes: << "tragic heroes"
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 855 @ 0.00336648 = 2.8783 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: ben_vulpes, i like how they blur the name but leave the avatar making it easy to find with google image search http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fkcQBH9yWJIJ:instagram.com/dontrunup+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=ubuntu#
assbot: dontrunup's Profile • Instagram ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cl03rX )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38942 @ 0.00056026 = 21.8176 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00057032 = 10.4654 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00058236 = 14.8502 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33052 @ 0.00058401 = 19.3027 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23337 @ 0.0005864 = 13.6848 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.00055832 = 21.1882 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13027 @ 0.00057707 = 7.5175 BTC [+]
assbot: /victoriavaneyk /ioptio /conniegallippi /scarrbondale /cryptolachat /TrueBitcoinGirl: RT /hashtag/bitcoinwomen?src=hash apply for /BoostVC /hashtag/tribe5?src=hash
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14450 @ 0.00055942 = 8.0836 BTC [-]
mats: equal opportunity Bitcoin, yo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00060622 = 10.6089 BTC [+]
cazalla: more like they want equal outcome
decimation: asciilifeform: there's no way in hell someone could create a 'free and open' laptop like that for less than a few $100 mil
asciilifeform: !s from ore
assbot: 5 results for 'from ore' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from+ore
decimation: asciilifeform: either from ore or paying the ransom required to get intel et. al. to completely open the design for a chipset
asciilifeform: decimation: there is a good reason to doubt that a sufficiently gnarly turd can ever be considered 'open'
asciilifeform: think of, e.g., openssl.
asciilifeform: doesn't matter how thoroughly the thing is published.
assbot: Gmane -- NTP ... ( http://bit.ly/1v7jO0q )
asciilifeform: decimation: another thing is that intel et. al. are not honest actors and there would be every reason to suspect the physical product and documentation to diverge in arbitrarily malicious ways.
asciilifeform: as they have in fact been demonstrated to do on many past occasions.
decimation: yeah it's a good point. there is a vast difference between 'source is open, could read' and 'design is obvious, fits in head'
decimation: asciilifeform: I suspect more incompetence than malice, but it's still a good point
asciilifeform: the best place to hide a little malice is a gigantic pile of incompetence.
decimation: aye, good point
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00060336 = 18.1008 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: or a lot of malice in the case of heartbleed
thestringpuller: "little malice" sounds cute like a puppy tearing up the pillows
asciilifeform: 'little' being the size.
decimation: heh http://nknetobserver.github.io/ << apprently best Korea uses redhat, or a rebranded variant
assbot: Your Friendly North Korean Network Observer by nknetobserver ... ( http://bit.ly/1v7nlMp )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5930 @ 0.00059583 = 3.5333 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13865 @ 0.00059205 = 8.2088 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: !up diametric
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00060622 = 9.4267 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54850 @ 0.00061412 = 33.6845 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 322.12, Best ask: 322.43, Bid-ask spread: 0.31000, Last trade: 322.12, 24 hour volume: 10511.84234263, 24 hour low: 319.93, 24 hour high: 333.0, 24 hour vwap: 326.206173307
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43050 @ 0.00058702 = 25.2712 BTC [-] {3}
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