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decimation: the Nepalese police?
kakobrekla: yes it has to be annoying so people see it. now im off.
xinxiwang: Nepalese? SG is in southeast asia.
assbot: Gurkha Contingent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1zT4cll )
decimation: I guess I take it by your questions that the answer is 'no'
BingoBoingo: !t n s.appl
assbot: I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
xinxiwang: uha, I even don’t know this.
xinxiwang: interesting
decimation: yeah they were brought in to break up the racial riots in the 60's
decimation: because both sides thought that the gurkhas were 1.) hardcore and 2.) neutral
xinxiwang: that’s funny
xinxiwang: they should bring people from china to do that.
xinxiwang: for ethnic homogeneity
decimation: aren't chinese a big part of the sg population now?
xinxiwang: 80% are chinese.
decimation: http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/303042 << "It has been said that during the Falklands War, 400 miles east of Terra Del Fuego, or Cape Horn, South America in the Atlantic, after the Gurkhas landed, it was sufficient for the RAF to drop leaflets over enemy Argentine positions, merely saying that the Gurkhas have landed and are sharpening their Kukris, for the conscript Argentine army to flee for their lives."
assbot: How much do we know about Gurkha police in Singapore? - SgForums.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1zT5f4v )
assbot: Facebook Law for Idiots - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1zT5kW0 )
mircea_popescu: hai preet & friends.
xinxiwang: given that the majority are chinese people. I don’t think people from other races can be neutral here.
mircea_popescu: how do you mean ?
decimation: well, certainly turkic highland folk from the west are not to be trusted...
xinxiwang: they are still commanded by local people
BingoBoingo: Guurkahs are pretty much the default neutral people, because... Nepal is poor and isolated.
mircea_popescu: decimation yeah, the same thing;s been said in spanish about the english lol
decimation: xinxiwang: do people in sg generally like the way the lee family have been running things?
xinxiwang: many don’t like. but since the family is doing quite well. people still accep that.
xinxiwang: people are appealing for democracy :-)
decimation: surely the 'mandate of heaven' still smiles upon singapore?
mircea_popescu: singapore democracy's gonna be a fun one to watch.
decimation: people in the us have democracy, it's not great. the people should be happy with the lee family
xinxiwang: i’ve no idea about that. maybe lky knows.
mircea_popescu: sorta like manhattan without brooklyn, let alone harlem or you know, ozarks.
decimation: malaysia is kinda like their ozarks I guess
xinxiwang: yeah, Thai tried western style of democracy but failed.
xinxiwang: Sg may fail to incorporate that kind of democracy as well.
decimation: the chinese have lived under strong men, emperors and bureaucrats for thousands of years. it would be better to go with a winning formula
mircea_popescu: better != easier.
mircea_popescu: stop impeding progress.
xinxiwang: who knows. if it’s the trend, nobody can stop it.
decimation: is your point that it is easy to hand out one mili-slice of power to each sg citizen and leave it to them to ruin the place than to actually run it?
mircea_popescu: no, my point is that it's easier to give the police guns and then bitch when they shoot the wrong people than you know, hold a gun and pick and choose. and similarly...
mircea_popescu: why not have a democratic political class to hate and despise ?
mircea_popescu: buncha people you vote for just so you can expect things not of this world.
decimation: yeah, I agree that's the effect. furthermore, those in real power use the process as cover for their own agendas
mircea_popescu: really ? lizzard hitler ?
mircea_popescu: "those in power" dun actually exist.
decimation: they are not coordinated like that
decimation: more like the FCC makes rules, and the EPA makes rules, etc
mircea_popescu: you're roughly speaking of the "bubbles in power" in a bottle of beer.
mircea_popescu: you know, the ones that don't pop, for whose benefit the entire thing is made.
mircea_popescu: i never saw one.
decimation: but each one has a tyrannical journey to the top
mircea_popescu: name a name.
mircea_popescu: who is the "people in power" in one of these systems ? who, in hollywood ? who, in washington ?
decimation: well, look at general alexander, for instance
mircea_popescu: ken rove ? that janet derp ? rice ? who ?
decimation: each of them push their own little agendas
mircea_popescu: like all the other bubbles.
decimation: which generally consist of 'give us more money and more fiefdom'
mircea_popescu: not in power.
decimation: I guess it's power in the restricted sense that they are only allowed to act in one direction
mircea_popescu: there's one trend that unites all us presidents that i've ever seen. that trend is, that going in they look above average health for their age,
decimation: is a child powerful if she pulls a lever to demolish a building?
mircea_popescu: and going out they look in shockingly poor health for their age.
mircea_popescu: the cause, outside of drugs, is that they don't get any sleep.
mircea_popescu: what "in power" is this where you can't fucking sleep ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform has apoint with the sleep.
decimation: that is a good point
asciilifeform: sleep is the measure.
decimation: my impression is that they constantly awoken so they can be 'in the loop' on whatever derpish retardation is going on in the world
asciilifeform: because muppetry.
punkman slept 13 hours, refreshing
asciilifeform: pete thiel - sleeps.
decimation: the general response to which being 'do nothing' or 'let the underlings handle it'
asciilifeform didn't watch him sleep, but believes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually the examplke i was waiting for was the iranian, what's his name
mircea_popescu: omar ksomething
mircea_popescu: fucking ironic, i thought.
asciilifeform: kyahamm ?
asciilifeform: khayamm ?
mircea_popescu: nono, the press derp.
decimation: louis xvi was 'in power' in the same way I guess
mircea_popescu: guy slept. on tits.
mircea_popescu: ;;google Pierre Morad Omidyar
gribble: Pierre Omidyar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Omidyar>; Pierre Omidyar - Biography - Philanthropist - Biography.com: <http://www.biography.com/people/pierre-omidyar-9542205>; Pierre Omidyar: The reclusive eBay founder will battle with The ...: <http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/pierre-omidyarthe-reclusive-ebay-founder- (1 more message)
asciilifeform: https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/6754 << what should i buy after i set fire to this ?
assbot: #6754 (Can crash wan port (eth1) with ping flood (Atheros AG71xx)) – OpenWrt ... ( http://bit.ly/1zT9Y6k )
asciilifeform: what a disgrace.
asciilifeform: 100 usd does not buy a functioning - or wrangleable - device. does 1000? 10,000 ?
asciilifeform: i bet - no.
mircea_popescu: nah. you're paying too much.
mircea_popescu: 25-30 bux. try that.
asciilifeform: 25 << have an urn full of these
asciilifeform: same issues
mircea_popescu: "Resolution set to fixed"
mircea_popescu: 4 years ago yo :D
asciilifeform: haha fixed, 'fixed'
asciilifeform: lend one of these fine gentlemen your car, and he'll glue the petrol gauge to 'full'
asciilifeform: easier than filling tank. cheaper. satisfying.
decimation: no asciilifeform, the real thing is you make a light that says 'pay money to dealer'
assbot: "(ag71xx): transmit queue 0 timed out" - Google zoeken ... ( http://bit.ly/1I2sjE5 )
asciilifeform: ^ 1,120 results.
asciilifeform: i don't even know what is more enraging - the sc4mz0r manufacturer, or all the shitmonkeys who claim to have 'fixed'
decimation: asciilifeform: the popular thing to worry about these days in routers is 'buffer bloat'
asciilifeform: decimation: i don't run an isp, or a dc, don't care one whit for optimizations
asciilifeform: but want gizmo that fucking works as printed on the box
asciilifeform: 24/7/365
asciilifeform: and, if dies, can go in the urn, replaced with same, in the worst case
asciilifeform: i don't even grasp why a wireless to ethernet bridge needs to be a computer, with stateful memory and an os
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 9105 @ 0.0012 = 10.926 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: asciilifeform: the wifi protocol is needless complex is why
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Things exist this way because danielpbarron is right and there is a vengeful old testament god. Jesus and mercy were a lie!
decimation: Jesus isn't a lie!
decimation: !up taub
mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: the wifi protocol is needless complex is why <<<
mircea_popescu: wanna talk about turds, talk about that.
mircea_popescu: just the successive "encryption solutions" they implemented is enough for humour in hell.
decimation: the end-to-end principle would suggest a minimal amount of protocol overhead is needed - let the application layer figure things out
mircea_popescu: and what, charge 20 bux for a thing that works ?
mircea_popescu: why not charge 100 for a thing that doesn't work, so suckerlifeform can buy 20 ?
asciilifeform: plus the kerosene.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc (100 * 200) / 20
gribble: 1000
mircea_popescu: JOBS CREATED
mircea_popescu: (in china. which then we bitch at for polution)
mircea_popescu: anyway. sleepytime. HEAR ME ROAR!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.00036989 = 12.7612 BTC [-]
decimation: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 376.91, Best ask: 378.66, Bid-ask spread: 1.75000, Last trade: 377.3, 24 hour volume: 8465.10747744, 24 hour low: 374.01, 24 hour high: 383.0, 24 hour vwap: 378.493754072
BingoBoingo: Such flat, BTC made it to the moon, but got stuck in the sea of tranquility
decimation: eh, flat makes those famed 'afraid of volatility' types happy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42529 @ 0.00036892 = 15.6898 BTC [-]
punkman: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00034204 / 0.00036087 / 0.00038216 (757862 shares, 273.50 BTC), 7D: 0.00030027 / 0.00035295 / 0.00041472 (10817404 shares, 3,818.01 BTC), 30D: 0.00030027 / 0.00044918 / 0.00086038 (29748677 shares, 13,362.75 BTC)
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 332806 | Current Difficulty: 4.000747027127126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 334655 | Next Difficulty In: 1849 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 21 hours, 39 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35888211462.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -10.29622
BingoBoingo: So, what's the hypothesis. Hardware breaking and mining farms being more selective about the hardware they keep on?
punkman: maybe not enough money to pay electricity for a few operations
BingoBoingo: Also thinking maybe a ploy by manufacterers with farms to get consumers to buy this spendy time of the year at any cost?
punkman: I liked the "personal lottery machine" angle
BingoBoingo: I have to admit I've been eyeing the pretty Bitcrane machine as a spaceheater++
punkman: payoff not that great if you win the solo mine lottery
BingoBoingo: Eh, I'll point it at some pool or p2pool
BingoBoingo: If Mizzou beats Bamma Saturday and I have much profit.
BingoBoingo: Prolly skip the miner though and keep building the escape fund
punkman: you don't want to be carrying too much stuff
assbot: Lightest Backpacking Cot – LuxuryLite® UltraLite Cot&#0153; by Therm-a-Rest® ... ( http://bit.ly/1vOInE5 )
punkman: might need on of those if going the land route
BingoBoingo: What's wrong with the mud? Also maybe considering saving up for a boat.
BingoBoingo: Either in the sense of a literal ocean going craft or the metaphorical Ford Crown Victoria
punkman: actual boat is an acquired taste
BingoBoingo: Actual boat seems awfully interdictable.
punkman: maybe less so with the right flag
BingoBoingo: Hard to take "right flag" down the Mississippi leg of the trip.
mats_cd03: 01:14:25 <+BingoBoingo> Such flat, BTC made it to the moon, but got stuck in the sea of tranquility << makes me happy, tbh
mats_cd03: how am i gonna accumulate 1000btc if it goes up again?
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: Sure. Nice place to build another launch pad.
mats_cd03: anyway, like mp says, something something usg catching a falling knife twice
mats_cd03: my more immediate concern is...wtf is happening to s.mpoe
BingoBoingo: That's a good question, but given the options market is hibernating in wait of better price signals some large share dumping seemed inevitable... prolly...
mats_cd03: i sold ma shares after it crashed and temporarily recovered to ~0.00075, then bought back at 0.0005 thinking it was the bottom ;_;
BingoBoingo: Either that or Obama's secretly had an MPOE account
BingoBoingo: Maybe someone who bought S.MPOE round 2 shares finally decided to part with them?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.0011999 = 1.1999 BTC [-]
mats_cd03: what was it at round 2?
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: If I recall correctly its cheapest.
assbot: The best investments in the history of Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1yovoKv )
BingoBoingo: MPOE first round was 9085 satoshis per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 999 @ 0.00119999 = 1.1988 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1940 @ 0.0012 = 2.328 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44854 @ 0.00037154 = 16.6651 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony stretches
davout: fluffypony: nice comment on the "blockchain onion gets an ssl cert" derpage
fluffypony: davout: thanks
fluffypony: that fuckwit infosec "expert" that's helping them irritates me
fluffypony: the most annoying thing is that they should have expended effort in using eschalot to create a memorable address
fluffypony: rather than fucking around with SSL
fluffypony: blockchainbdgpzk.onion is not memorable
fluffypony: facebook, of all things, actually spent the time and energy in getting right
fluffypony: facebookcorewwwi.onion
fluffypony: easy to remember
fluffypony: I can't believe in 2014 we have GoDaddy leading the way in managed DNSSEC and Facebook leading the way in correct Tor hosting for clearnet sites
fluffypony: it's like a mindtrip
davout: heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33850 @ 0.00036838 = 12.4697 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: MasterCard: Not Completely Comfortable With Bitcoin | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1ypm5K8 )
davout: cazalla: i don't even get why they feel the need to talk about bitcoin
cazalla: prolly an attempt to use what influence they have left
cazalla: reminds me a bit of iraqi info minister, no bitcoin in the city at all!
cazalla: fuckem anyway, i use visa
cazalla: what trickery is this? XN--B1A4AC.COM
davout: cazalla: "prolly an attempt to use what influence they have left" <<< what for? push bitcoin?
davout: also your domain name is a unicode domain
cazalla: davout, no idea, perhaps to encourage gov to crack down on it, seems to be the case given their submission to aussie senate.. sorta like an ex gf that insists on fucking things up with your new gf
cazalla: davout, first time i've come across this punani code for domains
assbot: Punycode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1ypshSp )
cazalla: anyway, that one is for btc.com, wonder how popular it is for phishing
davout: i should put my blockchain.io to use for lulz & phishing
cazalla: davout, "Black Friday figures for MasterCard were not yet available, but the company reported in October that it had processed $2.4 trillion in payments in the first nine months of 2014"
cazalla: 2.4 trillion yet concerned about bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00036599 = 3.3854 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36714 @ 0.00037609 = 13.8078 BTC [+]
nubbins`: <+cazalla> 2.4 trillion yet concerned about bitcoin <<< natch
nubbins`: c'est un copain
davout: wat
mircea_popescu: burtreynoldsismyspiritguide1 ? mmmmmyeah
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo soo, chick findsa out that her "father" is infertile, gets fixated on it, tries to replace him, imagines this sort of pathology ius somehow universal or important for people generally.
mircea_popescu: why am i even reading this crap.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.00037112 = 17.2942 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: it never ends either. jesus.
mircea_popescu: teach all the idiots how to read and write - get fifty billion pages about how important idiots are, aka the internet.
mircea_popescu: could do without.
jurov: looks like we renamed "sovereignty" into "sovereignity"
mircea_popescu: i cnat spael.
mircea_popescu: decimation: eh, flat makes those famed 'afraid of volatility' types happy <<< yet for every 500 guys that went "o bitcoin i can not use it is too volatile" for 3 years going, you don't hear as many as .5 guys today "o, now i can use it"
mircea_popescu: instead it's "now it's not volatile so not interesting anymore, can't use".
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: So, what's the hypothesis. Hardware breaking and mining farms being more selective about the hardware they keep on? <<< mining moved away from the general public to "specialised experts". this always results in a drop of quality.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: my more immediate concern is...wtf is happening to s.mpoe << ya srsly.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: that fuckwit infosec "expert" that's helping them irritates me <<< i don't recall an infosec expert of the webz that wasn't a sort of "assigned female at birth genderqueer individual".
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: I can't believe in 2014 we have GoDaddy leading the way in managed DNSSEC and Facebook leading the way in correct Tor hosting for clearnet sites <<< bwahaaha this IS a fucking point. and it goes on : microsoft leading the way for linux, on it goes.
mircea_popescu: davout: cazalla: i don't even get why they feel the need to talk about bitcoin << virgins also feel a need to talk about the cock.
mircea_popescu: it's psychosomatic.
fluffypony: Hearn tried to debate the point with me on Reddit
mircea_popescu: hearn still talks in public ?
assbot: fluffyponyza comments on Blockchain.info becomes the second website (after Facebook) to have been issued an HTTPS certificate by DigiCert for their .onion address. ... ( http://bit.ly/1pXLZTI )
fluffypony: that's "infosec expert" -> me -> Hearnia -> me
mircea_popescu: i liek nubbins` french.
mircea_popescu: arrange meeting for today at 3 with kinda shaky individual, have secretary confirm it today. wake up, check, confirmation comes in the form of "in the immortal words of dude, yes, 1500. he'll wait you."
mircea_popescu: day slightly thus improved, we proceed to the waiting car!
rithm: just make sure the miners have a ul sticker on them tho amirite
nubbins`: sticker guarantees
thestringpuller: nubbins` speaks french?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i thought the immortal words of the dude were: the dude abides
thestringpuller: ;;google the dude abides
gribble: The Big Lebowski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Lebowski>; The Big Lebowski (1998) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118715/quotes>; verbs - "The Dude abides" — what does "abide" mean in that context ...: <http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/38213/the-dude-abides-what-does-abide-mean-in-that-context>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43500 @ 0.00036451 = 15.8562 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1090 @ 0.0012 = 1.308 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4791 @ 0.00037105 = 1.7777 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64000 @ 0.00035833 = 22.9331 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Uber Confirms New $1.2B Funding Round At $40B Valuation | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1vlVK9Q )
punkman: infinite funbux
bagels7: i would just like to point out what a burden it would be to marry a crazy woman in today's politically correct world where the woman can do no wrong.
bagels7: Feminism is the new fascism and it needs to be addressed before men are entirely pussified from birth
nubbins`: bagels7 ah get out
nubbins`: ya fuckin wizard
bagels7: get out of what
nubbins`: here
bagels7: i must preach to the 144 corners of the internet
nubbins`: preach it to your next can of frosting
bagels7: are you brittish are stupid
bagels7: since when is wizard an insult
nubbins`: !down bagels7
nubbins`: what's the use!
mats_cd03: move somewhere reasonable, then
mats_cd03: your part of the well isn't the only spot in town, you know
nubbins`: am i not allowed to down him becaause assbot hasn't refreshed the trust list?
bagels7: you have failed to give me a coherent response
mats_cd03: ;;gettrust bagels7 assbot
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user bagels7 to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=bagels7&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
nubbins`: it's the other way
nubbins`: assbot bagels7
mats_cd03: da person to complain to.
nubbins`: kekekbrekla
mats_cd03: just look at the graph
nubbins`: no, that's the wrong graph
nubbins`: he could just rate assbot if that were the case.
nubbins`: ;;gettrust assbot bagels7
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask bagels7!bagels7@unaffiliated/bagels7. Trust relationship from user assbot to user bagels7: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=bagels7 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bagels7 | Rated since: Tue Nov 11 00:46:41 2014
mats_cd03: dpb <<
adlai: bagels7: 144? you're off by a factor of 36. http://timecube.com/imageFUA.JPG
bagels7: I always off by some factor
assbot: High school league votes to let transgender athletes pick their teams | Minnesota Public Radio News ... ( http://bit.ly/1vRv1ac )
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 990 @ 0.001207 = 1.1949 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27772 @ 0.00037538 = 10.4251 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37350 @ 0.00036296 = 13.5566 BTC [-]
punkman: "In 50 years, US trust in government dropped from 77% (1964) to 24% (2014)" << is that because everyone was high back then?
kakobrekla: yet trust in god remains at what, 90?
punkman: ;;gettrust god
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user punkman to user god: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=punkman&dest=god | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=god | Rated since: never
ben_vulpes: that's a great wot handle
ben_vulpes: GET IT
punkman: "google @ 40,000 searches per second, 144m/hour, 3.456b/day, 1.2t/year" << lower than I imagined
punkman: at least 20k per second must be bots
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Because not everyone can Tyrone. link came to you from lulzmines
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.01027433 = 1.0274 BTC [-]
undata: punkman: ours is way better than that rubbish they grow
punkman: yeah because mexicans ain't heard of indoor growing
mats_cd03: that's expensive
undata: that's about right
undata: needs more rain though
assbot: Congress Man Proposes Bill (H.R. 5777 Full Text Attached) | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1CJYs2Q )
undata: BingoBoingo: that he's proposing something in the realm of sane is not surprising given that he's on the way out of congress :p
BingoBoingo: Well... on the outs...
undata: the guy might as well submit a bill to bring back the gold standard while he's at it
undata: I've been doing some reading on systemd; I had no idea just how many services it ate
undata: among them cron?!
assbot: 11 Bidders 27 Bids in Latest USMS Bitcoin Auction | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1CJZzj8 )
BingoBoingo: Yeah systemd eventually is supposed to eat the entire userland, so Pulse audio works better or something.
undata: haha
undata: I like the idea of declarative config, knowing dependencies and whatnot; upstart doesn't seem too onerous to me
BingoBoingo: Also it the honorific "Congress Man" was indeed intended over the title "Congressman"
BingoBoingo: Openrc might be fine too
undata: that's what I'm using locally
undata: I tried systemd and bizarre breakage occurred which I couldn't be bothered to debug
undata: it wouldn't mount /home for example
BingoBoingo: I dunno why if init is the problem the solution also replaces console kit and everything else
undata: and it kills the competition between for example various implementations of cron
undata: or network fiddlers or whatever
BingoBoingo: And don't boohoo about X "needing" root without sytemd, because http://www.xenocara.org/ has done that for some time
assbot: Xenocara ... ( http://bit.ly/1CK0QH6 )
BingoBoingo: !up Belxjander
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 35000 @ 0.00003895 = 1.3633 BTC [-] {7}
mircea_popescu: lol pulse audio still exists ?!
mircea_popescu: ndata> it wouldn't mount /home for example << prolly home didn't have the right pid.
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1CK1q7M )
mircea_popescu: of course it was going to break the record. all "art" is going through roof.
mircea_popescu: random romanian first timer sold some painting for ~1.5mn
undata: "The sale also became symbolic of a quest for redemption after he became what he called an “unperson” in the scientific community seven years ago; he had told the The Sunday Times of London Magazine in an interview that he was pessimistic about Africa because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says not really.”
undata: ^ made to apologize
undata: uh... lol?
undata: I dated a black virologist for a time; her prescription for Africa was 30 years of quarantine
BingoBoingo wonders about all of the angry postgrads with no money wishing they could afford Watson's LSD
undata: same chick threatened me with airborne ebola once; I didn't bother to find out whether she was serious
assbot: Jenna Bush Admits to "Hanky Panky" on the White House Roof ... ( http://bit.ly/1CK3zQT )
mircea_popescu: ;;rated thebroker
gribble: You rated user thebroker on Wed Oct 15 15:45:56 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Broker..
mircea_popescu: ;;rate thebroker -1 aka digicoins.io. Inept and unreliable smalltimer.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user thebroker has changed from 1 to -1.
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust moo-_-
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user moo-_-: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=moo-_- | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=moo-_- | Rated since: never
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1004 @ 0.001207 = 1.2118 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !up michiel_l
BingoBoingo: !up BlueMeanie4
michiel_l: mircea_popescu: thanks
pete_dushenski: "Kmart has become the second major retailer to pull controversial video game franchise Grand Theft Auto from its Australian stores... Target said on Wednesday it would stop selling the game in response to customer complaints sparked by an online petition posted by three women identifying themselves as victims of violence in the sex industry."
pete_dushenski: no porn in uk, no games in aus
pete_dushenski: what's next, no ping pong in nz?
undata: they'll ban sheep-fucking
pete_dushenski: "no game with the world balls shall be permitted"
undata: I watched a documentary recently on the prevalence of suicide in some dreary UK town. I'm not surprised.
mircea_popescu: michiel_l sure. what winds bring you here ?
undata: looks like it's called "Death Town"
mircea_popescu: wait, someone still buys at target ?!
undata: it was among other things an interesting look at how people waste away under socialist nanny states
mircea_popescu: is this target trollbaiting in the hopes someone's going to like, go to their store ?
pete_dushenski: hey who knows, this stunt might actually work
pete_dushenski: people walk in just to see the bare shelves with their own eyes
pete_dushenski: then, while they're there, buy something they didn't need
mircea_popescu: ima totally gonna go to target to buy beached whales belabouring under the delusion that people laughing them out of bars = "victims of violence"
mircea_popescu: "in the sex industree"
pete_dushenski: dat ancient profession..
mircea_popescu: hopefully i'll get a price per head, so i won't have to pay per pound.
pete_dushenski: pay per pound of bone
pete_dushenski: then see how "big boned" she really is
pete_dushenski: target bought all the zellers stores in canada and has failed miserably to penetrate the market
pete_dushenski: there's really not much room in the market between walmart and the bay
undata: target... recently infamous for a massive theft of credit cards
pete_dushenski: idem home depot... usps too iirc
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 332900 | Current Difficulty: 4.000747027127126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 334655 | Next Difficulty In: 1755 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 4 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 36810432135.6 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.9911
pete_dushenski: bouche-a-bouche!
pete_dushenski: if it weren't for "free willy" no one would bother with killer whales, too "mean"
pete_dushenski: on second glance, those might not be killers...
undata: mircea_popescu: maybe the poor fucks were trying to commit suicide
undata: how rude to deny them that
mircea_popescu: it's unclear what causes it
mircea_popescu: but the part where they put cozies on them is cute.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i dun think killer whales ever beach
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Never forget Tillikum, the great freedom fighter.
pete_dushenski: ;;google beached killer whale
gribble: Nine Killer Whales Die In Rare Mass Beaching in New Zealand | TIME: <http://time.com/6812/killer-whales-die-mass-beaching-new-zealand-video/>; Why Did 9 Killer Whales Die in New Zealand? - TakePart: <http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/02/12/9-killer-whales-die-mass-stranding-baffles-experts>; Cetacean stranding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (1 more message)
pete_dushenski: rare =! never ever ;)
mircea_popescu: a ? well i guess that's something i learned today then
pete_dushenski: whales love beaches
undata: they're trying to re-evolve legs
cazalla: pete_dushenski, no-one in the history of Australia has ever purchase vidya games from kmart
cazalla: and if they did, it was merely so they could take the game back for a refund after copying the cd key
pete_dushenski: kmart: funding drm scams since 1985
pete_dushenski: "To date, the developers have raised just over $65m from nearly 700,000 backers, which makes Star Citizen the largest crowdfunded project there has ever been by a huge margin. (The next largest, a publishing platform called Ethereum, has raised a comparatively paltry $18m.)"
pete_dushenski: $2,500 for a video game space ship... fuck me
cazalla: star citizen better deliver the goods
undata: it's all about No Man's Sky anyway
pete_dushenski: and calling buterin's scam a "publishing platform" is awfully generous
pete_dushenski: cazalla if gta5 can deliver, then surely something with a fraction of the drugs, violence, and sex industree can
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00036115 = 7.223 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: star citizen will prove, once and for all, that consumers really want good clean fun
undata: bah
pete_dushenski: undata is that a console game too?
undata: pete_dushenski: yeah, upcoming space sim with a generated universe
undata: looks incredible if it delivers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00035894 = 5.0252 BTC [-]
undata: Cloud Imperium does look pretty badass, if the videos are any indication of where it's headed
undata: there's something amusing in there about proles pouring enough money to build a real rocket into a toy, but..
pete_dushenski: real rockets don't provide as many hours of entertainment for as many proles
pete_dushenski: it's all about roi where "return" is in units of time mindlessly consumed
undata: "The humans then turned their attention inward, creating ever more realistic virtual worlds to live within. The comet hit in 2091."
cazalla: pete_dushenski, i can see paying $2,500 for a ship in a game, not as a pre-order mind you. i hope for a game where bitcoin is the ingame currency and players set pricing for resources independent of publisher
pete_dushenski: cazalla it'll happen
undata: cazalla: if you pay me $2.5k, I will imagine an incredible ship for you.
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> pete_dushenski, i can see paying $2,500 for a ship in a game, not as a pre-order mind you. i hope for a game where bitcoin is the ingame currency and players set pricing for resources independent of publisher << it;'s called eve
mircea_popescu: 2-3k is about what a titan costs
mircea_popescu: boring as fuck, also.
pete_dushenski: so it exists, trilema guild and all
pete_dushenski: undata how incredible are we talking? like built-in-easy-bake-oven-incredible?
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc3_Iy1UouQ << for my curiosity, anyone know what this is ?
assbot: Mihai Margineanu - Tiganeasca - super tare melodia - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1w4jxlC )
cazalla: mircea_popescu, ya, i know of eve but who wants to fuck about with fiat to isk to bitcoin, y u nao use bitcoin itself already
mircea_popescu: actually you can go isk-bitcoin straight.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00035894 = 2.8715 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: for that matter, you can trade s.mpoe for isk
pete_dushenski: if only the dumper knew that before!
cazalla: mircea_popescu, is isk created in same fashion as wow gold?
mircea_popescu: pretty much
pete_dushenski: so i've decided to join the mechanical keyboard ranks
mats_cd03: so hip
pete_dushenski: i ordered a model m and a unicomp to see how they stack up
pete_dushenski: tres chic
mircea_popescu: you people with your retro fashions will be the end of the fucking world
mircea_popescu: buncha terrorists
mircea_popescu: what's next, mechanical sex instead of virtual sex ?
pete_dushenski: maybe mechanical bitcoin miners are on the horizon
pete_dushenski: they could be built to last for 1000s of years
pete_dushenski: and what is #b-a if not terrorist central?
assbot: To A Redditard | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1w4kJFF )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00035894 = 4.8457 BTC [-]
cazalla: anyone have a windows phone?
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34352 @ 0.00035485 = 12.1898 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu cute! that's pretty much what the non-migratory fauna look like here atm. twas -35C last week, though a blessed -10C today
mircea_popescu: it's been 28 here.
pete_dushenski: eh i don't mind the crispness in the slightest
pete_dushenski: sharpens the mind
mircea_popescu: it surely sharpens the cock.
pete_dushenski: though i tend to spend >1 month per winter somewhere warm so it's easy for me to say :D
pete_dushenski: sharpens, shrivels, shrinks, shortens...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57200 @ 0.00034255 = 19.5939 BTC [-] {3}
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assbot: Thinking Is An Expensive Occupation ... ( http://bit.ly/122oRbu )
mircea_popescu: "Perhaps he was handed the story by the CIA, as German journalist Udo Ulfkotte confesses he often was."
assbot: The poor used to have the most opportunity in America. Now the rich do. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/122qVQW )
mircea_popescu: this is true tho. numerically : the poor used to have 0.8 opportunity, and the rich 0.75
mircea_popescu: now, the poor have 0.011 opportunity. the rich, 0.012
mircea_popescu: thus therefore.
undata: "notice, I've created this graph."
undata: *audience nods vigorously*
mircea_popescu: "it is made of graphene"
undata: *breaks finger upvoting*
asciilifeform: 'send graphologist now!'
asciilifeform: the poor used to... the rich << sentence made of almost pure nothing - like aerogel.
asciilifeform: who is 'poor' here, who - 'rich', and what do the latter 'have' more of
undata: "And the 1990s, remember, were the good times for the middle class."
asciilifeform: (money? 'no shit, sherlock.' buying power? of what?)
undata: yes I'm sure it feels great when you're running up your credit cards with abandon
undata: feels not so great when you have to start paying them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28850 @ 0.00033771 = 9.7429 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: this bizarre fiction - i never understood.
mircea_popescu: they've got the opportunity to send their kids to college :D
mike_c: totally on topic: can someone tell me how to say "date of birth" in spanish/mexican
asciilifeform: what does it even mean to 'borrow' something from somebody with infinite supply of it (printing press) ?
asciilifeform: why not skip straight to chattel slavery - more honest, makes immediate sense to everybody.
mircea_popescu: mike_c fecha de nacimineto
asciilifeform: nacimiento ?
mike_c: thanks. that what google translate said but i didn't know if that was just robot talk.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ayup
undata: +asciilifeform | why not skip straight to chattel slavery - more honest, makes immediate sense to everybody. << this is "why propaganda?" isn't it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not sure if you've noticed, but the movement is AWAY from direct sense, towards meta.
asciilifeform: undata: let's put another way. if we're subsistence farmers, neighbours, i borrow your horse - then you ask for it back plus p% of harvest, and it makes a kind of hind brain sense because you were deprived of a horse for a spell, after all
mircea_popescu: that'd be why.
asciilifeform: undata: but let's say you have a martian contraption that craps out complete horses on demand, at no cost, at the push of a button
undata: asciilifeform: the metaphor needs the horses to get smaller the more of them there are :D
asciilifeform: then the idea of paying back begins to feel like pure rape
asciilifeform: smaller, yes. but this is not immediately apparent to the borrower.
asciilifeform: nor - often - the lender.
mircea_popescu: this'd work fine in practice for as long as the martian contraption owner didn't also have a cock
asciilifeform: thing is, the machine's very presence upon the good earth - is death.
asciilifeform: to everyone.
asciilifeform: but of course any particular owner will disagree. go try to tell him.
mircea_popescu: but a state with economic involvement and the custody of the currency is like...
mircea_popescu: well, yeah.
asciilifeform: comes the day when everyone is not only plowing with horses the size of chihuahuas, but paying dearly for the privilege
asciilifeform: (paying whom? 'king hunger', but there are always human faces and eventually bashed in)
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 332913 | Current Difficulty: 4.000747027127126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 334655 | Next Difficulty In: 1742 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 0 hours, 19 minutes, and 51 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 36794661668.4 | Estimated Percent Change: -8.03052
undata: it seems like in state-run economies, when they print money what they're actually manufacturing is ownership
asciilifeform: of what?
undata: then you can rent ownership from the state, but never have it yourself
undata: hence you receive "ownership" from the state but have to give it back more
asciilifeform: aha you can 'rent' something from a psychotic terrorist.
asciilifeform: until the voices in his head say 'ransom was too small' and he changes mind.
undata: sure, then he can either steal from you, or print more, which steals from you just the same
undata: asciilifeform: how bout ownership of power?
mircea_popescu: meta-ownership lol
undata: it seems fitting, the state in this case can issue power, but revoke it at will
asciilifeform: aha now we're not simply paying a psychotic terrorist not to kill us, but 'renting' something. legitimate commerce, aha.
asciilifeform: all this 'meta' business - is for the birds. i prefer the concrete.
asciilifeform: like snot.
asciilifeform drowning in snot very conretely
asciilifeform: *concretely
asciilifeform very concretely rages in delirium
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46744 @ 0.00035476 = 16.5829 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but if you look at it, pretty much all effort goes towards meta.
undata: well sure, I pay my landlord to rent this apt, he pays the bank for the building and the state for the dirt
undata: seems like the bank and the state both own some ownership
asciilifeform: undata: and the state pays thugs to practice killing you
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27006 @ 0.00035384 = 9.5558 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that's not even what i mean.
mircea_popescu: you're not "supposed to" beat your own kids. you're supposed to... "be better than that". and do it ? indirectly! ha! win.
mircea_popescu: ask some chick if she wants to get laid ? o but... not meta enough!
mircea_popescu: what's worse than being a farmer ?
mircea_popescu: what's more socially acceptable than playing the farmer on facebook ?
mircea_popescu: meta i tell you.
mircea_popescu: the only reason hipsters have moved on to bikes is that they're meta cars
mircea_popescu: (cars having been for a while meta-horses)
mircea_popescu: what's all teh "ironic" trend if not, you know, "i'm meta-er than you ha!"
undata: ah when I hear meta I think metaprogramming
asciilifeform: metastases.
mircea_popescu: just, replace a thing with a label of the thing
mircea_popescu: then replace the label.
mircea_popescu: and then the replacement.
undata: ah I was just ranting earlier about how all american communication has been reduced to marketing
undata: reminds me of the Bill Hicks routine where he tells everyone in marketing in the audience to kill themselves
asciilifeform: what other kind of communication is possible between chumpatron operator and the feedstock ?
assbot: Bill Hicks on Marketing - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/12Dvz8P )
asciilifeform: granted, a particularly demented farmer might sing to the cattle for his own strange reasons, and no practical purpose
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the difference between us here is that you seem to include the margin. i say there's no margin included.
mircea_popescu: no farmer.
mircea_popescu: no lizzard hitler. merely a cognitive disease.
undata: "the recovery" << there's a good one
undata: it's the economic "jesus is coming back"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11094 @ 0.00035612 = 3.9508 BTC [+]
undata: mircea_popescu: does the disease reduce to "can't tell the difference between imagined and perceived"
undata: and having said that, I can already see the problem with that framing
undata: I can name delusional thinking much more easily than I can say to what coherent thinking might be anchored
undata: there's both a bootstrapping problem there as well as a finger-vs-moon thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00034619 = 6.9238 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19527 @ 0.00034619 = 6.7601 BTC [-]
mats_cd03: 'Crypto-CS-SETI Challenge'
assbot: CryptoCurrency Certification Consortium (C4) ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApxIje )
mircea_popescu: who are these fuckwits.
mircea_popescu: seriously, "certified bitcoin professional" ?! professional whats ?
thestringpuller: lol C4...
thestringpuller: does this mean they are going to go boom?
mircea_popescu: Mission Statement
mircea_popescu: The CryptoCurrency Certification Consortium (C4) establishes cryptocurrency standards that help ensure a balance of openness & privacy, security & usability, and trust & decentralization.
mircea_popescu: Board of Directors
mircea_popescu: The following people work to set the direction of C4 and the standards against which cryptocurrency professionals are measured:
mircea_popescu: Vitalik Buterin
thestringpuller: !up Dr-G2
mircea_popescu: dude holy shit already. how much derpage can this one dude sprout.
decimation: re: mechanical fetish << one thing I don't get are mechanical watches, they have poor accuracy
mircea_popescu: and of course diiorio and the rest of that scammer group.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I wonder if Buterin has an assistant who just helps him spout derpage. "Paid Derpage Roller", much like Snoop Dogg (Lion?)'s "Blunt Roller".
decimation: maybe the real bitcoin foundation can apply for a certification
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin tipping sees giant growth: ChangeTip exceeds 10,000 tips in bla bla.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that there's something chilling me on bitcoin as much as all these idiots "driving adoption" in their idiotarian ways.
mircea_popescu: you may call me a codger, but im not the only one.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94352 @ 0.00034888 = 32.9175 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> i dunno that there's something chilling me on bitcoin as much as all these idiots "driving adoption" in their idiotarian ways. << OMG SELL
decimation: yeah the vocal derp ratio is pretty high
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00033714 = 8.1756 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Ah, yeah I meant seal. SEAL ALL THE CLUBS!!!
mircea_popescu: meanwhile,
mircea_popescu: ;;google bdsm buenos aires
gribble: Buenos Aires BDSM : La Casona del Sado, aka Faker House - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2014/buenos-aires-bdsm-la-casona-del-sado-aka-faker-house/>; BDSM. - Buenos Aires | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/pages/BDSM-Buenos-Aires/457879384268308?_fb_noscript=1>; Trumpling & FemDom - DOMINA MAXIMA -Buenos Aires- Argentina ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hctrVfrdwdQ>
mircea_popescu: the shit trilema dominates...
mircea_popescu: facebook, youtube, you name it.
thestringpuller: ;;google gpg contract
gribble: GPG Contracts – Adler Vermillion, LLP: <http://adlervermillion.com/gpg-contracts/>; GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/>; Received by NSD/FARA Registration Unit 10/18/2013 1:35:25 PM: <http://www.fara.gov/docs/5666-Exhibit-AB-20131018-33.pdf>
thestringpuller: that top one ripped off your article and stole your spot
mircea_popescu: lol no ?!
mircea_popescu: isn't this the guy that's active on like twitter and stuff ?
assbot: The conference, second edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApBpFV )
assbot: Bitcoin Police Irc | Serwer Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApC3mB )
mircea_popescu: especially the Warning: file_get_contents(http://bitcoin.guylainegagnon.ca/tmp/request.php?ip= part lol
assbot: Liberty Dollar Founder von Nothaus Sentenced to House Arrest for Counterfeiting - Tristatehomepage - Eyewitness News ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApD52a )
mircea_popescu: satoshitango.com <<< shit an' go!
mircea_popescu: sentenced to HO ?
decimation: I guess usg is tacitly admitting it had no case and is frightened of an appeal
decimation: either that or the guy flipped on someone
mircea_popescu: dude check it out, #bitcoin00/#bitcoin01 empty!
assbot: laszlo | Bitcointa.lk ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApFOsq )
assbot: Von NotHaus Gets House Arrest | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApHdPu )
assbot: Pentagon fears blowback from ‘humane’ Guantánamo video release | The Miami Herald ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApHulD )
mircea_popescu: “While the videos at issue in this litigation do not in my opinion depict any improper treatment of the detainees, but rather the lawful, humane and appropriate interaction between guards and detainees,” wrote U.S. Navy Rear Adm. Sinclair Harris, “persons and entities hostile to the United States and its detention of enemy belligerents at Guantánamo Bay are likely to think otherwise.”
mircea_popescu: dude freedom changed to democracy.
undata: liberation from hunger
undata: I should learn latin just so I have something to think in when they're done turning english into shit
mircea_popescu: or romanian. it has better curses.
decimation: romanians taught latin to socrates
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assbot: Von NotHaus Sentenced to House Arrest - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApJESa )
BingoBoingo: ^ Anyone with /. account pls vote up. Will thank with absolution of sin.
decimation: dirty papists
assbot: Hash/sec Throttling for Democracy | Bitcointa.lk ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApKXRg )
undata: Therefore, why not cap the number of hashes per second? If the operations were capped at say, 250khash/sec based upon system clock and not the available number of cycles, then anyone with the "minimum requirements" could participate << cap the standards of your wife so everyone can participate
mircea_popescu: and since im doing history, http://bofh.ntk.net/BOFH/
assbot: Bastard Operator From Hell Official Archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApLqTv )
decimation: "we would gladly destroy the rich man's nice things just so we call all have poor hovels"
undata: seems like a drive related to being suicidal
mircea_popescu: actually i think it's related to forcing whiny nerds to defend their fucking civ1 cities,
mircea_popescu: which otherwise they fucking never do.
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApMYNl )
decimation: I never bother to invest in military units until I have good tech
decimation: but I can be easily owned by aggressive barbarians
mircea_popescu: this is so uniquely peculiar to you i swear...
decimation: this strategy works better in civ 5 where your cities can magically defend themselves
undata: sprint to nukes, destroy earth, rule over the radioactive wasteland.
mircea_popescu: i only played civ 1, but nukes were a splendid tool to destory ships
mircea_popescu: no sea pollution, magically.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i only played civ 1, but nukes were a splendid tool to destory ships << This, in civ2 I loaded aircraft carriers with nuclear missiles
BingoBoingo: However many nukes +1 fighter jet for defense
BingoBoingo: I always tried to keep my territory under my flag small, clean, and well developed while oppressing the rest of the world
decimation: civ5 with nuke subs is fun
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3568 @ 0.00035585 = 1.2697 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo remembers being a Junior in college and contemplating buying a giant pile of Liberty Dollars. Then I go BTC to silver around $100/BTC, Should have got those liberty dollars and went the other direction.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 368.01, Best ask: 368.11, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 368.11, 24 hour volume: 12473.27401807, 24 hour low: 360.0, 24 hour high: 378.99, 24 hour vwap: 368.463672328
assbot: Roadmap · bitrig/bitrig Wiki · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1vu4vDZ )
assbot: Bitrig 1.0 Released – OpenBSD fork | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1vu4vUk )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the top comment really belongs in the record here
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you never know when the yc shitgnomes will zap it
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I mean the fork they want already exists in Google's "android", a linux built with the OpenBSD libc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: their purpose was to destroy the original
asciilifeform: like termites.
asciilifeform: poetterings.
asciilifeform: There was a discussion about this on the OpenBSD misc mailing archives back in 2012: http://marc.info/?t=133961305400003&r=1&w=2 Theo's initial response to the thread, which may help illuminate the situation, was: "Except for the fact that it is bullshit. They started the fork because they got kicked out because one developer (Marco) hired 5 other developers for his startup company, and attempted to hire around 10 other deve
assbot: 'OpenBSD forked' thread - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1vu6msz )
asciilifeform: lopers in a sneaky and underhanded way. They were told, oh i forget they were "asked", to not tell anyone else in OpenBSD that this was happening, probably because people "including Theo" would be upset. Funny thing is, I've never been upset about the 20+ OpenBSD and ex-OpenBSD developers who now work for google. Previously, many of those developers were in critical positions in the development team. As they were suddenly hire
asciilifeform: d with such terms and conditions, they became more scarce in OpenBSD --perhaps because they suddenly got real busy with work, but also to avoid telling others that this was happening. Various projects lagged. To avoid telling a lie, they instead chose to not tell the truth. It had effects. It was dishonest of them to not tell their co-developers that they were creating vacuums in the development process. So because of those de
asciilifeform: cisions, they are now gone from OpenBSD. And now they miss it. So now, all these guys who work for the same company have started a fork. And it is directed by the guy who hired them in the first place. From where I stand, that is the truth. Yet none of that is in that article, because the truth hurts, doesn't it guys?"
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asciilifeform: notice that the perps ring all the typical 'leper's bells' of poetteringism.
asciilifeform: emphasis on 'modernity', etc.
asciilifeform: a willingness (and some basic ability) to play 'mean girls'
BingoBoingo: Right, and they want to kill big kernel lock, upon which I dunno you can build security.
asciilifeform: the thing that shitgnomes fear most is - sunlight.
asciilifeform: recall mr spamgun ?
BingoBoingo: At least in C
asciilifeform: his maniacal insistence on 'confidentiality' with every new would-be chump.
BingoBoingo: Mr. skip wires, Wi-fi cardano?
BingoBoingo: Ah, Mr. Flappy Plane
asciilifeform missed that one, but doesn't give a fuck
asciilifeform: while we're on the subject,
BingoBoingo: According to him flappy plane is a total mischaracterization of his vision
asciilifeform: i doubt that the openbsd devs were so direly impoverished that they agreed to serve enemy, knowing what he was
asciilifeform: they almost certainly laboured under an illusion of one kind or another.
BingoBoingo: I think the entire point of the OpenBSD financial crisis was an allergy to strings
asciilifeform: the purpose of throwing sunlight down upon these creatures of the abyss, is - aside from flondoring - to warn the next set.
BingoBoingo: I dunno that there's a better reason at all.
BingoBoingo: Comming from Transylvania I'm sure mircea_popescu has experience slaughtering vampires with sunlight
BingoBoingo: !up gsdgdfs
decimation: the only feature on the list of improvements that I find remotely appealing is the fdisk tool
decimation: openbsd disk partitioning is kinda annoying
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well Hammer2fs might happen before 5.9 or 6.0...
BingoBoingo: But seriously OpenBSD disk partitioning is MUCH better than Solaris 9 and 10
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48535 @ 0.00036034 = 17.4891 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73517 @ 0.00037288 = 27.413 BTC [+] {3}
decimation: heh well that's true
decimation: LVM is annoying to configure but it is highly flexible
mod6: it's just old school, thats all.
BingoBoingo: Cylinders and shit aren't that hard
decimation: well, the whole thing is going to be shot in the head when high speed non-volatile memory is common
assbot: Logged on 03-12-2014 00:37:16; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: because the whole disk-ram dichotomy is predicated on volatile ram.
BingoBoingo: So, a lawyer is inquiring what my hourly rate is as an expert witness... What does everyone else charge?
BingoBoingo: Super serious here
BingoBoingo: Big firm in Chicago so I want to ad a Chicago sucks surcharge
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48000 @ 0.00037567 = 18.0322 BTC [+]
decimation: my company sells my time at $210 per hour, but that's bezzle rates with bezzle qualifications
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, what does an expert witness make?
decimation: well, it's a supply and demand thing right?
BingoBoingo: I'm fine quoting a price in bezzel dollars
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
Vexual: bout 180 should slot you in politely between the photocopier kid and the big boys
decimation: lol https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/dec/04/pentagon-finally-details-its-weapons-cops-giveaway/ << "Since 2006, police in Winthrop Harbor, Ill., a village of 6,700 along the shore of Lake Michigan, has received 10 helicopters, one mine-resistant armored vehicle and two Humvees, and other equipment, worth more than $6.5 million."
assbot: The Pentagon Finally Details its Weapons-for-Cops Giveaway | Muckrock ... ( http://bit.ly/1vubnRN )
decimation: maintenance on those helicopters alone would run easily a couple mil per year. this must be some kind of laundry
assbot: dgeats +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
BingoBoingo: !up dgeats
BingoBoingo: hello dgeats
dgeats: just make it an even 1 BTC
BingoBoingo: The hassel of going to Chicago is expensive
Vexual: plus expenses
decimation: yeah duh
ben_vulpes: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 332932 | Current Difficulty: 4.000747027127126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 334655 | Next Difficulty In: 1723 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 23 hours, 10 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 36758772733.1 | Estimated Percent Change: -8.12023
ben_vulpes: master bitcoin repository repository is currently at 295000
asciilifeform: maintenance on those helicopters alone would run easily a couple mil per year << lol maintenance. they get brand new ones.
ben_vulpes: a full 100k+ blocks behind
ben_vulpes: a wait oom error
decimation: asciilifeform: brand new helicopters require maintenance too
asciilifeform: as the police choppermeister where i live cheerfully admitted during a public show&tell.
decimation: plus I thought they were getting busted down old war birds
asciilifeform: decimation: nah, replacement works fine.
asciilifeform: ad infinitum.
decimation: 10 helicopters = 1 flying?
asciilifeform: they aren't getting 'apache', no.
asciilifeform: small general-purpose choppers with thermovisors.
decimation: 'little bird'
assbot: MD Helicopters MH-6 Little Bird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vucCjQ )
asciilifeform: police choppers don't shoot. (why would they need to ?)
decimation: demilitarized of course
decimation: probably not little birds though, probably something more like UH-1
asciilifeform: actually what i saw (forgot precisely what brand!) was a tiny thing with a jet engine. big enough for two men and a bulbous camera, and two hours of jp-4.
decimation: yeah, that's like the little bird
decimation: I think if I were to buy an aircraft I would get a turboprop or small jet
decimation: due to ubiquity of jp-4
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