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danielpbarron: Jick needs to get a real job
Mexual: yo, ben said i could use his computer
cazalla: what a lulzfest that was
danielpbarron: well that was useless for eveyrone involved
decimation: I stopped listening awhile ago; did they answer your questions or ignore?
mircea_popescu: <justusranvier> What happenes when somebody produces a platform just as useful, but without the need for an appcoin? << thinking is racist.
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danielpbarron: decimation, what do you think? :D
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> if bitcoin = bad, ether = good, why would they sell ether for bitcoin? << it's the bitcoin patriarchy raping them.
cazalla: decimation, they ignored them
Mexual: ill be here when bitcoinity spawns new racist gifs
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> so you are at home? <<< ahhh win
mircea_popescu: <Mexual> head north from toddler << omfg this is actually vexual ?!
mircea_popescu: shit man, you had me.
Mexual: yes, with calming tequila
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mircea_popescu: everyone changes their name, from benkay to ben_vulpes and from bitcoinpete to pete_d. vexual changes too.
mircea_popescu: to mexual.
BingoBoingo: Only for the tequila it seems
mircea_popescu: if this isn't diogenes pushing his tub up and down i dunno what is.
Mexual: well, i thought it was about as cool as cargo pants, so i did it
Mexual: but honestly i was hoping you'd talk to me in spanish
mircea_popescu: i only talk spanish to my horse
mircea_popescu: or filly, as the case may be.
mthreat: mr. eduardo
Mexual: !up mike_c_minus_key
Mexual: whats the difference between paris hilton and robin williams?
Mexual: paris still does coke
Mexual: the best part about that joke is that i think rw might have liked it
Mexual: bullshit
Mexual: found your compuetr did you?
Mexual: !up mike_c
mike_c: i brought shit with me, wasn't going to bother setting up this laptop. but catching up on logs takes forever when sleep deprived.
Mexual: its like 2 in the afternoon
mike_c: i forgot to sleep last night
Mexual: its tommorrow herw
Mexual: where did you come from?
mike_c: NYC
Mexual: figures
mike_c: because i'm so fucking cool?
Mexual: on consideration, yes
Mexual: bet u cant ghet a decent slice in portlkand
mike_c: no bet. i won't try.
Mexual: indeed
mike_c: wtf am i supposed to eat here? probably some fish or something.
Mexual: lol
Mexual: trout ah la creme
Mexual: perhaps mr vuples will get his generous nose out of whichever moot it's in and give you some advice
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Duffer1: mexual = vex?
Mexual: sie
Duffer1: hola mang
Mexual: hola
Mexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CL6n0FJZpk if you cant work google hagout you cant make an altcoin
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Mexual: movers and shakers
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mircea_popescu: <mike_c> wtf am i supposed to eat here? probably some fish or something. <<< beef.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 how's your gut ?
Duffer1: swollen hehe thanks for asking though
mircea_popescu: it'll pass :)
Duffer1: i need non creepy nurse gift ideas
mircea_popescu: trixisowned where's that pix from anyway ?
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 coffee. good, premium coffee.
Mexual: looks like hes working for kyle
Duffer1: that's a really good idea
mircea_popescu: best thing you can get a nurse.
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Mexual: suitcases=zombie?
trixisowned: mircea it seems to be from a old twitter
trixisowned: of some sort
trixisowned: theres others
trixisowned: with his shirt off
trixisowned: i feel bad about linking those
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cazalla: that's prime for a dick photoshop with i love cocks on the postit note
Mexual: hes already licking a hammer
mircea_popescu: trixisowned interesting nick btw. what's the "is owned" part ?
cazalla: rename file andreas_xyz, resize, put it inside other images etc etc so google images picks up hundreds of variations of it when searching his name
trixisowned: couldnt tell you, its a name from like 2002
trixisowned: that ive had since
trixisowned: i think trix was taken on efnet
trixisowned: so i made my name "trixisowned"
trixisowned: like, the name is owned
cazalla: trixisowned, picking a handle is like naming your son, i call bs
trixisowned: already
Mexual: lemonade stand champion
cazalla: then again, how many noobs used their real names first time on a bbs, maybe this explains mircea_popescu name etc?
trixisowned: srsly, i bet thats how i came up with it
Mexual: i ne're went on any bbs but mine
trixisowned: i would have been 12
cazalla: Mexual, why call them when they can call me?
mircea_popescu: trixisowned typical name for a slavegirl, to indicate that well... she's owned.
trixisowned: well it fits with my faggotry
Mexual: oh yes, tru dat
Mexual: also i needded tas reasons
Mexual: *tax
Mexual: i loved hearing hits
Mexual: oooh someones dialing in
Mexual: fee usenet
Mexual: free
Mexual: i was buying inf o bv4 googefuck
cazalla: if you were claiming line rental or something on tax back then, you're older than i assumed, how old are you Mexual
Mexual: older than you
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Mexual: my first modem had an airgap and wad 300 baud
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cazalla: did you buy it or your parents
Mexual: neither
cazalla: back of truck?
Mexual: if hung around the back of trucks since i was born
assbot: Andreas Antonopoulos Stares Into Your Soul - YouTube
cazalla: he's a male feminist trixisowned and he looks dead inside
Mexual: but i still remmeber my first at
Mexual: ibm
Mexual: i played lemonade stand endlessly
assbot: Andreas Antonopoulos Stares Into Your Soul : Buttcoin
trixisowned: upvote
trixisowned: wrong channel
trixisowned: ahahaha
trixisowned: sorry dudes
trixisowned: i always do that
Mexual: thats not how you play frogger trix
cazalla: eat the fly, eat the fly!
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Mexual: why do you hunt in a pack?
Mexual: in case of accident
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Mexual: !up usagi
usagi: Hello friends. Haven't been here in nine months. I just stopped by to answer any questoins or respond to any statements regarding my previous issues. Although I only have a limited time right now (20-30 min before work).
Mexual: do you like fugu?
usagi: I've never tried it although it's supposed to be a delicacy.
Mexual: do you want to come to my house any try some? im not certified
usagi: What's a mexual? Is that like, someone who only has sex with Mexican people? I'm not biased, I'm just curious about different people and cultures.
Mexual: no im just a guy who cuts fish as a hobby and sustinence
Mexual: i just happen to be in mexico presently
usagi: ah so da ne yo ta da.
Mexual: if from australia, i have a big imagination, and many computers
Mexual: you're not really japanese
usagi: I didn't say I was Japanese.
Mexual: no, thats true
usagi: I do like to study Japanese though. I think it's a very beautiful language phonetically.
Mexual: you may not know thos, but i have been likened to you casually
Mexual: i prefer chinese culture
usagi: Yeah I used to like Chinese culture a lot, still do, but the recent trends in Chinese linguistics have put me off a bit
Mexual: yes, i understand
Mexual: however i think the changes are only good
usagi: Well according to studies, literacy rates have not improved among literate people.
usagi: Meaning, among those who are literate, they are not "more literate" now than they were before the changes.
Mexual: your statistics are bullshit
Mexual: thats a little ausralian for you
usagi: My statistics? Sorry, I was quoting J.E. Dew :)
Mexual: either way
Mexual: the thing you say first is what peopl hear
usagi: So who do you follow in linguistics then?
Mexual: yes
Mexual: what do you know of japan?
usagi: Cuz im just saying, if you aren't following the latest trends in linguistics, then of course you wouldn't know about the studies surrounding literacy in China.
usagi: In that case I would rather talk about something else, my time is rather limited
Mexual: do tell us brother usagi
usagi: Are you offering to pay me to educate you?
Mexual: i would like to hear what you have to say
usagi: Well like I said my time is limited, I don't really "do" education of this sort, but I've already mentioned J.E. Dew, look up "6000 Chinese Characters", it mentions literacy trends over several corpus studies like BLI and CYY done in China.
usagi: or not, lol.
Mexual: dont link some other fuck, tell us what you think
usagi: I think you're fucking noob.
HeySteve: hey wasn't there a bitbet about russian forces in ukraine?
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Mexual: i thought i was educating you , usagi, if we move onto japane, youu may feel hurt
usagi: It's ok.
Mexual: if you claim to be one some thing,
Mexual: in japan the comparasin is different
usagi: I'm not sure what you mean, but if you have some honest advice I will take it from the source it's given.
Mexual: shall we meet again?
usagi: My answer would be the same
cazalla: what's with weeaboos and scamming
Mexual: wgar answe is that?
usagi: Well like I said, what do you think I should do? Do you have any advice?
Mexual: i apologise for digressingf romthe theme
cazalla: !up usagi
Mexual: what is the question?
cazalla: channel is typically quiet around this time
usagi: cazalla; Are you asking me? Question came out of nowhere :)
Mexual: ;;8ball
gribble: _I_ don't know.
Mexual: can i amke it in tokyo next to the emporers palace? ;;8ball
Mexual: ;;8ball
gribble: _I_ don't know.
usagi: I sense a theme.
Mexual: i sense yu are wrong
usagi: ;;8ball
gribble: It shall be.
usagi: Guess so :)
Mexual: what can you tell us of tokyo?
usagi: Dunno, never been there.
Mexual: maxico city?
usagi: Nope, sorry.
Mexual: sydney?
usagi: Uh uh
Mexual: perth?
usagi: Well, the Perth mint is located in Perth. Apparently.
usagi: But other than that, no, I don't really know about Perth.
Mexual: austin texas?
usagi: I think pirate lives there.
Mexual: they got guns too
Mexual: bankok city?
Mexual: srutgaard?
usagi: Wouldn't know.
Mexual: paris?
usagi: It's closer to Wales than Bankok iirc
Mexual: shenzen?
usagi: It has a special economic zone.
usagi: !up HeySteve
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usagi: Lol... assbot told me to up myself
usagi: "go up youeself, usagi!!!" hahaha
Duffer1: it must like you
Duffer1: never seen that before hehe
Mexual: jakarta
HeySteve: !up aabtc
cazalla: usagi, you said you didn't have much time but most people are doing other things at this time so you won't get many questions, may i suggest hanging around until some of those in the lordship show up
Mexual: id hazard the lords dont gibe a flying fuck
cazalla: well, i have my popcorn.gif at the ready just in case
usagi: cazalla; Yeah I get that, but I'm in asia. I might stop by later tonight in U.S. primertime
usagi: The thing you have to understand, is that most of the people who are tearing shit up about me are liars and/or hypocrites.
usagi: For example, when tahoe-ldap lost their privkey people here were saying how sad it was. They lost over 300 btc
usagi: But when I lost my privkey (along with approximately zero btc) I was called a criminal and a thief who had absconded with user's bitcoins
usagi: It's a bit of a joke, actually. Some scammer turns up? Oh, must be the next usagi.
HeySteve: usagi did someone else up you? that would explain why you can't up others
usagi: Lol
cazalla: HeySteve, i did
HeySteve: oh right, makes sense then
punkman: criminal negligence is a thing
Mexual: id have a beer with you usagi. i love tetacle porn
usagi: punkman; So is malicious criminal libel, ne?
punkman: nonsense
usagi: punkman; Usually, due to jurisdictional problems. However there have been a few recent developments.
usagi: punkman; Let's just say, that if you want to talk specifics, I am here. Do you have any specifics?
punkman: usagi: what do I care, I'm just here for the lulz
usagi: punkman me too :)
punkman: usagi, so you didn't lose any BTC?
Mexual: if teflons is non stick, how do they get it on the saucepan?
usagi: punkman; No, there were no bitcoins in the address. Later on I sent .15 of personal funds to the address by accident (instead of to my vps host), bit of a facepalm there but nothing serious
usagi: punkman; You could say I "lost" btc buying a nas backup but I dunno, it's more of an asset really?
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assbot: usagi +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -5
Mexual: punkman, it was months since i hit the desert trying to get xloser to mp
Mexual: fourty days ans forty nights
Mexual: i went very mad
punkman: should've had less peyote
Mexual: no peyote in this desert
Mexual: just einstein
xmj: gentlemen
xmj: does anyone have some international Freelance contracts lying around, and some NDAs?
xmj: poke fluffypony mircea_popescu
RagnarDanneskjol: yes, pls standby
Mexual: i can write new ones
fluffypony: xmj I have a standard freelancer contract we use that includes a non-disclosure and indemnity
xmj: interesting
xmj: fluffypony: in english, cross jurisdictions? or RSA specific?
fluffypony: English, and it specifies resolution in SA, but the wording has been checked by attorneys in the US / Canada / Germany
fluffypony: haven't had an issue thus far
xmj: i love you
xmj: fluffypony: can i paypal you some dollars and have that as libreoffice-readable?
Mexual: ill drop the c word in court to cover my contracts
fluffypony: it's plain text, I'll send it to you now
assbot: contractor agreement - Pastebin.com
RagnarDanneskjol: that ones pretty basic, I got lotsa them
assbot: nda - Pastebin.com
RagnarDanneskjol: let me kno if you need somthin more specific
Mexual: send bitcoin, o'll read it
RagnarDanneskjol: ;;later tell mircea_popescu I fixded my keys, go ahead
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Mexual: god know you prolly missed something
Mexual: which is what you py for
Mexual: theoreitcally
jurov: Andreas Antonopoulos Stares Into Your Soul << fu he can't stare straight
trixisowned: ahahahaha
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trixisowned: needs to be linked again
Mexual: !down usagi
Mexual: !up usagi
xmj: RagnarDanneskjol: thanks for the links
xmj: RagnarDanneskjol: reading through them now
xmj: RagnarDanneskjol: it's adjusted to United States legalese, correct?
RagnarDanneskjol: more or less
xmj: ah
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xmj: o-ho
xmj: RagnarDanneskjol: i like the 40/40/20 billing
Mexual: ohai
RagnarDanneskjol: yea, most employers dont like it tho
Mexual: i charge by the hour
xmj: eh, i'm going to steal that and require it from my clients
Mexual: itd mutuslly beneficial
xmj: Mexual: So is correct orthography.
Mexual: ueah well... you know
jurov: Mexual you charge parring of fish by hour?
xmj: 3 kinder surprise eggs per hour
cazalla: xmj clearly never had a yowie (soon back on the market)
xmj: whats that
Mexual wondered if he was born of jurov
cazalla: an aussie kinder surprise
jurov: mexual come hither, my spawn
xmj: so far i have not been in Australia
cazalla: ;;ud yowie
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yowie | yowie. A squatchy creature who only eats peanut butter, cookies, and texas toast. It also prefers vodka over all other liquids. It traditionally has a HGR that is ...
Mexual: i am frighten
xmj: o dear god.
assbot: , I dont understand what she thought was going to...
xmj: that sounds like one of the Lower castes of White Trash.
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Mexual: frim cazalla town
xmj: ah
xmj: fluffypony: have you heard about this one ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=711069.0
assbot: 2014 Malla Autumn Retreat, Estonia (Sept 19-28)
Mexual: fuck ill go to estonia with a case of booze
Mexual: im all about the lulz
xmj: why would you bring a case of booze to estonia?
xmj: that's like bringing owls to athens.
Mexual: coa i dont want to be blind
fluffypony: xmj: yes - was considering going, but probably won't make it
Mexual: as above
xmj: i'll be in sofia @ http://2014.eurobsdcon.org
assbot: EuroBSDcon 2014 | 25-28th of September 2014 – IEC, Sofia, Bulgaria
Mexual: good luck to ya
xmj: many people do conferences in late september, all overlapping, it's annoying
Mexual: website looks like mpes
Mexual: that cartoon dragon tells me you shouldnt get too drunk
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Mexual: sinkin more piss than a swim team
Mexual: !up usagi
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punkman: "Summer Retreat (Aug 8-18)" "Autumn Retreat (Sept 19-28) "
punkman: xmj, year-round retreat?
punkman: I like that he still starts with the fake picture
xmj: i don't know them
xmj: fluffypony has been in Malla :)
punkman: oh thought you went up there together
fluffypony: punkman: the main building still has many months of restoration work
punkman: fluffypony: or years
xmj: punkman: i'm too poor for this entourage
fluffypony: but there are out-building that are very nicely done up
xmj chuckles
usagi: I have to leave soon, but I'd like to say again if anyone needs anything, has a questions or concern/etc, I'm here to answer questions and statements regarding my businesses
fluffypony: usagi: how are your backups going?
xmj: ZFS I hope
usagi: fluffypony: We have a DS-413 running on a wireless network, and a secondary server on bluehost will be set up.
Mexual: usagi, gonnoreah goes unchecked here
usagi: Actually I am really thinking of adding a DS213 air to the mix for redundancy, I like Synology's software.
usagi: I've also set up a small mirror on my macbook which then goes out via time machine to a 1TB Toshiba drive. It should be okay now
Mexual: suely you tro;;
Mexual: *troll
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usagi: Mexual: Well with the wonders of personal cloud technology, you just set up a synced folder on a bunch of different devices for redundancy and you're good to go
Mexual: indeed
xmj: there was this german company who called one of their product lines NSA
xmj: iirc it was a backup drive
xmj: so you could back up your stuff to the NSA and some accompanying software would facilitate things.
assbot: Technische Daten - NSA-2401 | ZyXEL
usagi: Features: o Support rsync for NSA to NSA and NSA to PC
usagi: Lol they must have hired usagi to write their technical manuals or something
assbot: Snoop Dogg-20 Dollars To My Name - YouTube
Mexual: lemonade stand
Mexual: i spent 2 years tech drawing
Mexual: i even go phone calls
Mexual: noone ver said i explained something improprtly
cazalla: you drinking Mexual
assbot: Easy Rider - Freedom spoken by Jack Nicholson - YouTube
cazalla: what are you drinking? i'm downing a few beers myself
Mexual: tequila
cazalla: i should've guessed, that was obvious
Mexual: i usually dribj scotch
cazalla: what sort
cazalla: i like jw black, not bad for price
Mexual: neer hrard o blsck
Mexual: b lue?
cazalla: never had blue tbh
Mexual: oh, black
cazalla: $100 is my cut off
Mexual: urah
cazalla: i should buy one just to try though
cazalla: been drinking beer lately though
Mexual: no, black is the same
cazalla: i bought the double black which is a little more $ but it wasn't as good as the black imo
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Mexual: kids in portland just had a dufferent upbringding
assbot: Nicki Minaj - Lookin Ass (Explicit) - YouTube
Mexual: yeah um jeeping the diamonds
assbot: Busta Rhymes - #TWERKIT (Explicit) ft. Nicki Minaj - YouTube
Mexual: roll like ebolA
Mexual: missa a trick i told ya
Mexual: mr womp will actually kill you
assbot: Gandi Rates - .hiv domain names
Mexual: of necssitate definately link you
xmj: dear god
xmj: Mexual: please stop changing names
Mexual: its onlu one letter
xmj: exactly, it works around my ignore list.
Mexual: cool shit bro
punkman: couple more letters and you can upgrade to Mezcal
Mexual: ooj, i dont have the csctus for that
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BigBitz: ODB & Brooklyn Zoo nice.
BigBitz: ++++
Mexual: tru dat, hes deded
BigBitz: he is died.
Mexual: indybutably
Mexual: however we continue
assbot: Savage - Moonshine ft. Akon - YouTube
cazalla: you listen to too much nigger music Mexual
cazalla: guess ya not a true aussie battler
cazalla: ;;ud aussie battler
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=aussie%20battler | aussie battler. An Australian worker, who is set against by hard working conditions and a tough environment, who perserveres despite the odds being stacked ...
cazalla: lol fkn has it
Mexual: let me endulge you melbourne fucj
cazalla: hey, i wasn't born here
Mexual: yeah but i know what u dont like
assbot: John Williamson - True Blue - YouTube
Mexual: thi reminds me of when dub omly played waltzing matilda
Mexual: nut he dint get it
assbot: Billy Bunks - Devil's Clay - YouTube
cazalla: into the trash it goes
cazalla: i don't mind matty b though
assbot: Matty B - "I'm A Joke" - YouTube
cazalla: althought https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMYWC0tMZsk is more suitable for this evening
assbot: Matty B - Fridays - YouTube
Mexual: play im a joke first
Mexual: u sure u not italian?
cazalla: positive, you?
Mexual: nope , im kinda dark
cazalla: what's ya background
Mexual: play fridaysa again for the orientals
Mexual: 32 east
cazalla: lebo?
Mexual: me?
Mexual: its friday
Mexual: irush hamas
cazalla: interesting
cazalla: terrorists both sides eh
Mexual: yeah any tribe
cazalla: that's alright
Mexual: excellent choice matty b
cazalla: as my missus reminds, my parents were not even born here, she's been here since convict days yet i'm more opposed to immigration than her
cazalla: my cousin (the one that knew choppa) met him a few times in perth
Mexual: who is choppa?
cazalla: chopper reid
assbot: Men at Work - Down under LIVE in Dortmund - YouTube
Mexual: mad cunt
cazalla: who, choppa or men at work?
cazalla: maybe both?
Mexual: choppa
Mexual: deaded than kill tho
Mexual: meen at work still a th‌ing
cazalla: my mother has pics of him with my dead cousin in little memorial area in the loungeroom
Mexual: yeah coz u melb mafia
cazalla: it's weird, anyone that comes over, this is my omas and opas, this is my uncle, this is my cousin and this is choppa
cazalla: to my parents that is
cazalla: mafia hardly
Mexual: define
cazalla: cousin was a wannabe
cazalla: who likely was done up by drug squad
cazalla: can access police archives next year (10 years)
cazalla: inquest didn't discover fuck all
Mexual: yeah well
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cazalla: shame she died
Mexual: wee noth know
cazalla: missus looks like her
Mexual: ;p;
Mexual: good stiff
Mexual: *stuff, please dont kill me
cazalla: lol
cazalla: i only kill rabbits
cazalla: fox got in other night
cazalla: fucking cunts they are
cazalla: upended cages, dug holes
chetty: so much spam here this morning :(
cazalla: bit the leg off a bunny
cazalla: had to kill it
Mexual: you'll do wel on the apple
Mexual: a birf tells me its a good move
Mexual: place is on the yp and up
assbot: AC/DC - Back in Black - YouTube
cazalla: Mexual, look at this shit http://imgur.com/dfLnhjB
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
cazalla: i had 2 rabbits in cage with just water so i could butcher following day
cazalla: fkn foxes came same night
cazalla: poor thing was still alive
Mexual: fuck i thoihjt that was gonna be me licKung a hammrt
cazalla: lol
cazalla: last time they were here, they killed all my chickens
Mexual: just a red eyed bunny
Mexual: foxes?
cazalla: yeah, big problem in melbourne
Mexual: melb is alwys going on about how its like london
cazalla: what, immigrants galore? yeah
cazalla: they can't get to my breeding stock
assbot: Wiley - Wearing My Rolex (Official Music Video) - YouTube
cazalla: rolex? you don't read tlp?
Mexual: i dont have a watch
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 86(Y):14(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 1308.85848814 BTC. Current weight: 54,723.
Mexual: that foxtel bitch was blinged up
Mexual: go figure
assbot: Official Video: Snoop Lion "La La La" (prod. Major Lazer) - YouTube
Mexual: piy uoir hand up if you have a questiob
cazalla: tbh we have foxtel but missus pays for it because i refuse as i don't want it
Mexual: cross eyed fucker
Mexual: i dont buy i either, i like the saleswomen
cazalla: there's nothing on, i don't know why she wants it
Mexual: its bullshit
assbot: Snoop Lion - Tired of Running [Music Video] - YouTube
cazalla: $100 month out of her own pocket is cheap to shut her up though
Mexual: ouch
assbot: 2Pac Feat. Snoop Dogg - Wanted Dead or Alive (HQ) - YouTube
Mexual: these nuts
assbot: Snoop Dogg - Vapors (Official Video) - YouTube
Mexual: so vapour
Mexual: i might have to exit if i wasnt mecyal
Mexual: when i come to the north i bring my own fuxkin vikings
Mexual: punch a moose. no guns
cazalla: you must be drunker than i am
Mexual: yes
assbot: Fever Ray 'Keep The Streets Empty For Me' - YouTube
cazalla: last longneck and then i'm done :\
Mexual: you get drunk once a motnh
cazalla: me?
cazalla: 1-2 times a week atm
Mexual: you
cazalla: i stopped for like a month but this fkn kid and the crying
cazalla: i do morning/lunch shift (she uses machine to express milk) so i have arvo/evening to myself
Mexual: imma take moeity to the summit of ben nevis
assbot: Midnight Oil - Blue Sky Mine - YouTube
cazalla: who's gonna save me?
Mexual: union?
Mexual: vex?
assbot: Preventing XSS attacks when embedding JSON in HTML – Ben Alpert
cazalla: Mexual, union lol, useless
Mexual: im a one man union
Mexual: better than bitrcoin 2.0
Mexual: whos gonna save me?
Mexual: then you change your tune wutha new hat
Mexual: my hat went missing
Mexual: that was a good hat
ben_vulpes: here's an odd thing: "*** You can't join #bitcoin-court because you're banned (+b)"
Mexual: ever had a hat stolen ben?
Mexual: grrr
ben_vulpes: interestingly, yes.
Mexual: my vest fedora ever
ben_vulpes: maybe just amusingly.
Mexual: got lost atop a lever
Mexual: a man from afar
Mexual: showed me a jar
Mexual: and my hat gto swapped for some lkweather
Mexual: *leather
Mexual: nessitating asterixes since b4 benkjayu jay here
Mexual: *was
Mexual: i am tequila
cazalla: i'm empty :\
cazalla: knew 3 long necks was not enough but at least i won't regret tonight tomorrow
assbot: GANGgajang - Sounds Of Then (This Is Australia) - YouTube
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: your otc profile's getting hilarious
assbot: YouTube Ram Jam Black Betty - YouTube
Mexual: slovakisran!
cazalla: that's why i like danielpbarron, he keeps on true to his ideals regardless of the negs
Mexual: louisiana is rioting?
danielpbarron: heh, usagi contacted me on twitter because apparently he is a "christian" and wants to go at it from that "angle"
assbot: Creedence Clearwater Revival - Lookin' Out My Back Door - YouTube
Mexual: are you the google hangoi guy?
danielpbarron: one of them
Mexual: the one without the dogexoin tshirt?
danielpbarron: i wasn't "in" the hangout; I was asking questions in the troll box
Mexual: oh, you arent the cross eyed guy?
Mexual: did they ansder any questions?
Mexual: there as almist 10 people wyavhing
Mexual: watching
Mexual: and they pretty much said altcouns ar ecool
chetty: <danielpbarron> heh, usagi contacted me on twitter because apparently he is a "christian" and wants to go at it from that "angle"//being christian is an angle?
cazalla: Mexual, they didn't answer shit from trollbox
danielpbarron: he wants me to remove my rating on him; is it true that he didn't actually lose any BTC?
BigBitz: you mean you rated based on conjecture?
assbot: The DL - Amy Winehouse 'Valerie' Live - YouTube
danielpbarron: no, read the rating; i used his own words
danielpbarron: at the time he was still looking for a backup or something
danielpbarron: I guess he found it?
BigBitz: "Now that I have recovered everything except the wallet file the actual loss should be pegged at less than $2,000, twelve hundred of which is the cost point of our new backup system."
BigBitz: seems a lot less than $10K - which is good.
assbot: Michael Buble - Feeling Good - Lyrics - YouTube
Mexual: pous
assbot: Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - B.R.M.C. (2001) [Full Album] - YouTube
Mexual: 12teen and shit
Mexual: down and out
Mexual: lost in portland
Mexual: play it again
Mexual: i just saw a nubbins poster and ill ner drink tequila again
Mexual: !b1
Mexual: shit a brick, thats exactly how frogger is played
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 51 @ 0.28854944 = 14.716 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 110 @ 0.25864921 = 28.4514 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.25500001 = 7.65 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Silver price over $23/oz in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/972/ Odds: 44(Y):56(N) by coin, 51(Y):49(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.26206987 BTC. Current weight: 69,417.
ben_vulpes: "Getting an email address was once a nerdy right of passage for Gen-Xers arriving on college campuses." << *sigh*
assbot: The Internet's Original Sin - The Atlantic
ben_vulpes: unrelated
ben_vulpes: "Companies like Facebook want get as much of that money as possible, which means chasing users and reach.", "This personalization means that two readers of The New York Times may seen a very different picture of the world" << dear atlantic. not paying for competent proofreading is why your ad rates suck.
ben_vulpes: !s atlantic
assbot: 404 Not Found
chetty: <ben_vulpes> (although i did get this out of it: http://idlewords.com/2006/04/argentina_on_two_steaks_a_day.htm)// pretty good article on argentine eating habits
assbot: 404 Not Found
mod6: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 169319.11 in 1980 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -90.98
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 748 @ 0.00163461 = 1.2227 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28187048 = 0.8456 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28393695 = 0.8518 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.294 = 1.176 BTC [+]
copain_reac: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 9 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> trixisowned typical name for a slavegirl, to indicate that well... she's owned.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BTM] 305 @ 0.0018 = 0.549 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.0015772 = 1.104 BTC [-] {13}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1015 @ 0.00159047 = 1.6143 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 14.31735060 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1245 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76580864 BTC to 13`856 shares, 12744 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 2.66855470 BTC to 29`438 shares, 9065 satoshi per share
wywialm: hi all
wywialm: ;;later tell mircea_popescu re:La Serenissima and personal sovereignty. What about limited liability as a concept? To the dustbin, may stay as it is (how?), or only in the form of limited partnership with at least one partner assuming unlimited liability?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 387 @ 0.00163 = 0.6308 BTC [-]
wywialm: if anyone else has some ideas re limited liability as well, please let me know
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 643 @ 0.00162 = 1.0417 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: !up thestringpuller
ben_vulpes: wywialm: there is no recourse in bitcoin.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 183 @ 0.00273352 = 0.5002 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 495 @ 0.001589 = 0.7866 BTC [-]
wywialm: ben_vulpes: from S.WOL Listing Agreement "4.2. The liability of any person or entity party to this contract, either direct, indirect, incidental, tortious, punitive, exemplary or otherwise shall in no case exceed such sums as may be proven that person or entity has in fact received through the working of this contract. Signatories and investors agree to indemnify and hold harmless any
wywialm: party from any claims that may exceed such sums. "
wywialm: this probably serves as a partial answer to my question to MP
mircea_popescu: wywialm well, what about it ?
mircea_popescu: seems to me limited liability is not directly involved in the discussion. it's true that there's at work in the fiat world this mechanism whereby liability is limited automatically, in order to conceptually prop the corporation.
mircea_popescu: we don't need that mechanism, nor does it have much value really. without it, limited liability survives just fine.
mircea_popescu: a fine example of how problematic this is : financial services, because they are companies, are also unliable. meanwhile, medical services, which aren't companies, are liable. the result ? rampant financial speculation exploiting the public resources of local authorities, and unaffordable healthcare.
mircea_popescu: what if limited liability weren't improperly tied to the notion of corporation ? like it worked in the soviet union : medical practice is unliable, and so cheap and affordable.
mircea_popescu: of course they also made financial speculation liable in excess of sanity, which didn't work out for them on a macro scale, but the point remains : there's no good reason to exploit the concept of limited liability as a sort of exclusive monogamous relationship with the company.
mircea_popescu: the latter's too ugly, or as the kids today say, has no smv.
mircea_popescu: and also, had you asked this on teh blog post, this comment'd have ended up on the blogpost. now it;s on the log. if some guy reads the post six months from now, i'll remember it, but vaguely, and i'll say "it's in the logs". how does that help him ?
mircea_popescu: so remember folks! whenever you ask here about a trilema post instead of asking in that post's comment section, you are helping communism.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.16685734 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 17(Y):83(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.65008056 BTC. Current weight: 41,760.
xmj: ;;gettrust xmj benkay
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user xmj to user benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=xmj&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: never
xmj: boo
xmj: ;;gettrust xmj ben_vulpes
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Trust relationship from user xmj to user ben_vulpes: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=xmj&dest=ben_vulpes | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ben_vulpes | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013
xmj: how do i update the notes on people i've ranked before, then?
mircea_popescu: ;;rate x number new note
gribble: Error: 'number' is not a valid integer.
wywialm: ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 insightful and helpful
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.
wywialm: thanks for your answer. I'll remember to post further questions in the comments
punkman: "Using his spreadsheets, this unknown agency was calling his debtors and collecting debt that was rightfully his. The debtors, of course, had no way of knowing who actually owned the debt. Nor did they have any reason to suspect that they might be paying thieves. They were simply being told they owed the money and had to pay."
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
punkman: "This was not a problem Siegel was used to handling. There had been no classes at Simon Business School on how to apprehend crooks who appropriated your assets. "
asciilifeform: 'The debtors, of course, had no way of knowing who actually owned the debt. Nor did they have any reason to suspect that they might be paying thieves. They were simply being told they owed the money and had to pay.' << why should the wretches care - which thief ?
asciilifeform: in usa, 'tax farming' - in the form of the bezzlatron described in the link - is SOP.
asciilifeform: somebody call dr. guilliotin's exterminator service.
asciilifeform: (what's a tax farmer? read about why antoine lavoisier, better known as a great chemist, lost his head.)
asciilifeform: 'Federal Trade Commission notes on its website: “Although the collector may not sue you to collect the debt, you still owe it.' << how exactly does this work in bezzleworld ?
mircea_popescu: wywialm i take it that made sense ?
mircea_popescu: "There had been no classes at Simon Business School on how to apprehend crooks who appropriated your assets." <<< what a shitty school.
mircea_popescu: never mentions conversion ? rly ?
asciilifeform: 'Border Patrol says that debts and “financial issues” may render candidates “unsuitable” for service.' << gold. how many of the stuffed uniforms are technically eligible to work, then
mircea_popescu: a third or so.
wywialm: yeah, sounds ok to me
mircea_popescu: actually the latest (secret!!1) data shows about half of all us secret service empoyees across the whole shebang (yes, including the soopar-sikrit outfits, heh), just a shade above half are actually legally working
mircea_popescu: the rest got in through ppl closing eyes to this that or the other, cause well... gotta fill the seats.
asciilifeform: 'secret' << it was blown open in the 'washington post' afaik
mircea_popescu: osmething like that.
asciilifeform: usa is ripe for 'protection market'
asciilifeform: what's a silenced .22 round cost? a penny?
mircea_popescu: well in this sene, what's a gallon of screwdrivers cost ?
mircea_popescu: ten bux ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever play sid meier's 'colonization' ?
asciilifeform: 'colonists held the Boston Horse Party, where sixteen tons of horses were thrown overboard...'
mircea_popescu: i fixed it by hexediting because trhe prices in amsterdam made no sense.
asciilifeform: lol, same, more or less
mircea_popescu: and also, the winingstrat was... 4 towns, all fortresses.
mircea_popescu: (and also, you could hexedit the map. i made a 6 ore deposit - 4 sugarcane - 4 tobascco - 6 wheat island once0
mircea_popescu: and liumberjacks were useless.
mircea_popescu: the correct way to get wood ? like irl.
mircea_popescu: build abandonable colony, cut wood acros it (with hardy pioneers)
mircea_popescu: wagon to town.
mircea_popescu: and ill bbl.
wywialm: good night, folks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.296 = 0.888 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1140 @ 0.00156113 = 1.7797 BTC [-] {18}
assbot: Best News Bloopers 2014 - YouTube
trixisowned: here guys
trixisowned: im sure you would like this part
trixisowned: of the video
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 56 @ 0.0118 = 0.6608 BTC [-] {3}
mike_c: ben_vulpes, you around?
mike_c: ;;seen ben_vulpes
gribble: ben_vulpes was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 36 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <ben_vulpes> wywialm: there is no recourse in bitcoin.
mike_c: well, when you see this. i can't login in to van-ads, and my ads don't seem to be running.
mike_c: ok, got login to work.. i get "mnope" two out of three times.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 16.70008056 BTC. Current weight: 41,312.
mike_c: and i finally saw an ad. i guess i'm just a cheapskate. close my customer support ticket.
assbot: theodred +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
kakobrekla: !up theodred
theodred: kakobrekla: ty
theodred: it usually works. has something been changed?
kakobrekla: dunno, your rating ?
kakobrekla: or your raters ratings
theodred: as I said.. it usually works. anyways, how goes it?
kakobrekla: survivable.
theodred: one of those kinda days eh?
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 500.8, Best ask: 502.33, Bid-ask spread: 1.53000, Last trade: 500.79, 24 hour volume: 16568.42856170, 24 hour low: 481.55, 24 hour high: 521.79, 24 hour vwap: 501.108515649
cazalla: apologies to anyone reading last nights dribble
cazalla: wonder how vexual is feeling this morning
BingoBoingo: You mean Mexual...
ben_vulpes: looks like the character's doing a slow transform from vexual to muXne
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Muxne is the name of his pet key, Vexual is the name of his voice
ben_vulpes: bewilderment
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You mean bexwualderment
ben_vulpes: buxderpalment
ben_vulpes: maybe i'll key my keyid tatooed on my knuckles
ben_vulpes: get* my
ben_vulpes: ugh guys i suck at sales
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 390 @ 0.00155001 = 0.6045 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 811 @ 0.00155 = 1.2571 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot theodred
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user theodred: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=theodred | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=theodred | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: when did it usually work ?
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 501.27, Best ask: 502.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.71000, Last trade: 501.26, 24 hour volume: 16713.65731601, 24 hour low: 481.55, 24 hour high: 521.79, 24 hour vwap: 501.109066316
assbot: theodred +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
mircea_popescu: !up theodred
mircea_popescu: !up guest3476
theodred: mircea_popescu: see pm
mircea_popescu: well okay. so voice is an ever changing beast.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu send me 100BTC.
mircea_popescu: what for ?
BigBitz: So I can go to Vegas.
theodred: mircea_popescu: are you greek?
mircea_popescu: theodred no, i'm romanian.
mircea_popescu: BigBitz there's plenty of people in vegas already you know.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu sure. But I am not one of them.
BigBitz: With your 100BTC I will document a trip to Vegas where I bet the whole amount on one roulette spin.
mircea_popescu: now how would i know.
mircea_popescu: or else, i could document the best porterhouse steak in the history of porter houses everywhere.
mircea_popescu: i've just had it.
theodred: mircea_popescu: nice.. ah, the ending escu in ur last name.. came to mind.
BigBitz: We can do that also.
BigBitz: mircea_popescu you can meet me there.
theodred: porterhouse steaks? need cast iron for that
mircea_popescu: theodred that's typically romanian an ending. like -ian for armenians.
BigBitz: Portherhouse Waygu.
BigBitz: Nice.
BigBitz: Wagyu, even.
mircea_popescu: and yes, it was served on a little stovelet at the table, with embers.
mircea_popescu: in other news, if anyone was ever curious, i give you horse vices.
assbot: Crib Biting & Wind Sucking
BigBitz: mircea_popescu ... the 100BTC ?
BigBitz: ;;calc 100 * [ticker --last]
gribble: 50600
BigBitz: chump change, for you, mircea_popescu :)
mircea_popescu: i'd rather do something useful with it nevertheless.
BigBitz: Fair.
BigBitz: I would agree with that sentiment.
copumpkin: man, bitcoin crashing, mpoe crashing
copumpkin: nothing worth living for
BigBitz: !copumpkinprice
BigBitz: !copumpkinprice
mircea_popescu: i hear great things about that bloomingdale's executives programme.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 811 @ 0.00158728 = 1.2873 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: justusranvier so what is this, basically an awkward rework of the b-a voice model without acknowledging the source and practical use thereof ?
mircea_popescu: you trying to become an academic or something ?
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 500.79, Best ask: 500.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 500.99, 24 hour volume: 16601.42555722, 24 hour low: 481.55, 24 hour high: 521.79, 24 hour vwap: 501.157795826
ben_vulpes: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0007262 / 0.00077981 / 0.00088145 (3038672 shares, 2,369.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0007262 / 0.00081849 / 0.00094217 (12921666 shares, 10,576.28 BTC)
assbot: List of commands:
assbot: !up (desc: sending it via PM will voice you on chan given sufficient WOT rating)
assbot: !up <nick> (desc: sending it on chan will give <nick> voice for 30 minutes)
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
assbot: !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
assbot: !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla maybe time to move that to a pastebin ?
ben_vulpes: is there a book?
justusranvier: mircea_popescu: It's an idea for a tool designed more for in-person, non currency trades
justusranvier: Also more globally scalable
justusranvier: If you're going to speak about credit though, as far as I know I was the first person to suggest ising GPG-signed ratings for Bitcoin trading.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing wrong with seeing something you like and trying to understand how it works, or implement it. there is however something wrong with seeing something you like and imagining you invented it. that something is that in exchange for the stroking of vanity, it also isolates you from the exact people you don't really want to be isolated from, id est, those people who actually do the things you like.
mircea_popescu: well that's what it is, this reads to me like someone joined b-a and went "you know what ? ima make an altcoin!!1"
assbot: List of honest traders.
justusranvier: ^ my first forum account
mircea_popescu: that's pretty much right, yeah.
mircea_popescu: can you still sign with that account ?
justusranvier: I lost the password forum account, and don't have the email it was linked to any more. I may have an archived PGP key around somewhere that was linked to it though.
justusranvier: I'd love to recover it for nostalgic purposes
mircea_popescu: anyway. yes, that's the concept, it's not particularly novel or revolutionary, even if everyone from facebook to amazon ratings implements it very very badly.
mircea_popescu: the reasons it's not well implemented are in no sense scientifical, but purely political, and so the solution isn't going to come from writing it up, but from a willingness to work with others already doing it.
justusranvier: Of course.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense "stop being stupid and use the b-a model" is about a billion times more effectual than "here's how you could do it theoretically"
mircea_popescu: or at least, that's what i think on the matter.
justusranvier: Mostly I just want people to start thinking along the lines of how to harden existing systems specifically different threat models than those they are accustomed to combating.
justusranvier: I gave an example implementation, but it's purpose is mostly a thought exercise.
justusranvier: I do think that invitation-only networks have a role in the future, and creating incentives for proper vetting will be important, however those are accomplshed.
justusranvier: Here's the scenerio:
justusranvier: In the near future, Uber and Lyft are going to win their battle with the established taxi mafias.
justusranvier: They'll get in bed with the lawmakers and regulators and get the rules changed so they can participate.
justusranvier: However, the process of doing so is going to be very expensive and consume the profits they should rightfully have made.
justusranvier: Right about the time they win this battle, pure P2P versions of what they do will start cutting them out of the loop entirely.
justusranvier: What will they do? Of course, they'll do exactly what the taxi drivers are doing to them - demand the government "do something"
justusranvier: By this point, however, the only attack vector will be sting operations against individual drivers.
justusranvier: So by the time this all happens we should have tools ready that are specifically designed to allow people to conduct in-person commerce with some assurance they are about to do business with a cop
justusranvier: that they are *not* about to do business with a cop
kakobrekla: !help
mircea_popescu: !up dpb_reddit
mircea_popescu: justusranvier none of that is controversial.
ben_vulpes: $depth s.mpoe
empyex: ben_vulpes: [S.MPOE] Bids: 52758 @ 0.00073978 16250 @ 0.00073885 14518 @ 0.00073828 3035 @ 0.00073788
empyex: ben_vulpes: [S.MPOE] Asks: 9603 @ 0.00074093 4200 @ 0.00074164 3100 @ 0.00074318 6350 @ 0.00074370
mircea_popescu: anyway, small, worthless transactions like say a cab ride aren't too adequate for this sort of application because people can't be arsed to bother.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason the traditional "taxi mafia" is prevalent all over the world. that technology may force the government to release its extractive grip of said mafia tho... this is dubious. works for as long as people have the upper tech side, but this pendulum swings.
BingoBoingo: !rules
mircea_popescu: for easy comparison, argentina legally allows prostitution, but not pimping. this is roughly equivalent to allowing lyft/uber but not the traditional style.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, there's plenty of prosperous pimps.
atcbot: 0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103473 @ 0.00073914 = 76.481 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153530 @ 0.00073689 = 113.1347 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107709 @ 0.00073588 = 79.2609 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1087 @ 0.00073866 = 0.8029 BTC [+]
copumpkin: wow MPOE crash!
mircea_popescu: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00073342 / 0.00073748 / 0.0007468 (398319 shares, 293.76 BTC), 7D: 0.0007262 / 0.00077463 / 0.00088145 (3427764 shares, 2,655.25 BTC), 30D: 0.0007262 / 0.00081606 / 0.00094217 (13319985 shares, 10,870.04 BTC)
mircea_popescu: funny that it goes the same way as btc this thing.
copumpkin: yeah
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 497.62, Best ask: 497.79, Bid-ask spread: 0.17000, Last trade: 497.62, 24 hour volume: 16561.50479641, 24 hour low: 481.55, 24 hour high: 521.79, 24 hour vwap: 500.762394477
kakobrekla: its over, we can pack and go home put ba to +m.
kakobrekla: throw in another comma inthere.
mircea_popescu: but i am home!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.298 = 0.894 BTC [+]
assbot: PSA: got hacked yesterday | Great Wall of Numbers
mircea_popescu: https://blog.caseykuhlman.com/entries/2014/bitcoin-somaliland.html << and the usg press machine is making serious efforts at creating a bunch of interlinked blogs to cover the discussion in astroturf.
assbot: On the Sovereignty of CryptoCurrencies -- What Bitcoin can Learn from Somaliland
mircea_popescu: it's not just preston byrne or this or that derp. it's about a hundred of them by now, and as the old saying goes : the problem with this world is that while smart people are hesitant, government shills are full of words.
mircea_popescu: http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/08/14/tory-2/ << read that to get a pretty much exact blow by blow of the hostile aggenda.
assbot: I guess that makes me a Tory | Preston Byrne
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin is far from perfect.
mircea_popescu: ECDSA is imperfect. The hunt for the perfect mining algo is ongoing; BitcoinÂ’s in particular has proven to be a tremendous waste of electricity, the process little more than an environmentally harmful race to the bottom. The protocol supports a mere 7 transactions per second. Protocol development has been difficult to implement on account of the centralisation of mining power and community inertia. "
mircea_popescu: that's what teh boys got. how well bitcoin integrates (ie, how well some usg twerps nobody takles seriously have pretended to integrate with their puppet masters. herp.) and how unsovereign it is.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the guy's "business partner" drones all about how "you gotta live in real anarchy". because totally nobody ever did it outside of his dumb american ass, being leeched by some somalis for a few years.
mircea_popescu: such valuable voices much point of view.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33846 @ 0.00073432 = 24.8538 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: how many txns per second does atc do?
decimation: somalia would exist if not for the us decolonizing everything
decimation: his example destroys his argument
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.00642887 = 0.6429 BTC [+] {6}
ben_vulpes: come now that's not in his worldview
decimation: mircea_popescu: surely you do not mean these guys receive paychecks from usg. plenty of people shill in the hope that they can get scraps from the master's table
mircea_popescu: that's a paycheck.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is resulting in an article, so. gimme an hour here.
decimation: okay that's what I thought
mircea_popescu: !s large early holdings
mircea_popescu: !up usg_press_machin
usg_press_machin: Howdy, Bitcoin-assets.
mircea_popescu: usg_press_machin i don't like you enough to pm. and no, not really. you can comment on it once it's done.
usg_press_machin: Charming. Looking forward to it.
ben_vulpes: who are you, usg_press_machin?
assbot: I guess that makes me a Tory | Preston Byrne
usg_press_machin: I saw a number of hits from argentina; my heart sank
ben_vulpes: mr bryne? goodness.
usg_press_machin: I've been following the logs for a couple of months and figured it was a good opportunity to pop in.
ben_vulpes: welcome. into the wot with ye.
usg_press_machin: Surely it can't be that easy.
ben_vulpes: do you have a gpg key? a bitcoin address?
decimation: asciilifeform: re: tax-farming :: in Maryland there is such a thing as 'ground rent' - 'landlord' can sell land from under your house if you don't pay
ben_vulpes: surely if you're derping about bitcoin you've access to a privkey.
ben_vulpes: you want ;;eregister and ;;everify
decimation: he did not require an up, note
ben_vulpes: oh wat
ben_vulpes: ;;ident usg_press_machin
gribble: Nick 'usg_press_machin', with hostmask 'usg_press_machin!6b033f2c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.3.63.44', is not identified.
ben_vulpes: how is that now?
ben_vulpes: decimation: mircea_popescu upped him
ben_vulpes: troll
ben_vulpes: ;;eregister
gribble: (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00073057 = 8.4016 BTC [-]
decimation: oh sorry I missed that
ben_vulpes: i'm sure you follow, usg_press_machin
ben_vulpes: i recommend a better handle tho, lest you get stuck with that one.
mircea_popescu: usg_press_machin just how often do you check them hits ?
decimation: usg_press_machin: I assume you are dying to give us pro usg propaganda?
usg_press_machin: Roughly every thirty seconds or so, I spend my life glued to the computer.
usg_press_machin: (Just by chance)
usg_press_machin: Not really - we're not actually paid shills
usg_press_machin: But I suspect we're not that far off - did you all watch that "Declaration of Independence" video?
decimation: I did not.
usg_press_machin: I recommend you take a look - then re-read the blogposts.
decimation: What exactly do you mean by "ECDSA is not perfect. "
usg_press_machin: But from a more practical perspective, some of the tools people use to interact with the blockchain e.g. brain wallets or faulty random number generators are weak points.
decimation: you seem to confuse "widespread adoption" with "powerful"
usg_press_machin: In what sense?
mircea_popescu: <usg_press_machin> Surely it can't be that easy. << why not ?!
mircea_popescu: <usg_press_machin> But from a more practical perspective, some of the tools people use to interact with the blockchain e.g. brain wallets or faulty random number generators are weak points. << how do you figure this has anything to do with ecdsa ?
mircea_popescu: you can kill yourself with paracetamol too, doesn't make paracetamol faulty.
mircea_popescu: !up usg_press_machin
mircea_popescu: i keep forgetting about that and then talking at meanwhile devoiced ppls.
usg_press_machin: Thanks mircea. Re WoT was just joshing around. Re: brain wallets etc., the point is that Bitcoin is as much a product of its users as it is the blockchain.
mircea_popescu: not all its users.
usg_press_machin: Not all of them, of course.
mircea_popescu: so then it dun matter that the derps misuse it.
usg_press_machin: Maybe. But the question is, do you want the derps to use it at all
mircea_popescu: i don't care if they do.
mircea_popescu: bycicling isn;t a functon of people who can't ride bikes either. do you want more people to ride bykes ?
usg_press_machin: What do you want Bitcoin to achieve?
mircea_popescu: maybe, i guess, on like the 3rd or so meta level.
mircea_popescu: nothing lol.
usg_press_machin: What're you in it for?
mircea_popescu: to quote an old timer, "i have no idea, [you] just wandered in here one day and started talking"
atcbot: 0 minutes and 0 seconds ago (right now!)
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 129090.06 in 1979 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -93.13
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is a normal function of the adult mind, like writing, or like fucking. you're not into these for anything other than you know, being an adult, being alive, doing the things that there are.
BingoBoingo: 44389, Almost 7 hours ago... I'm not sure ATC bot' %tslb... quite works...
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.03 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wlel if hash went away ?
BingoBoingo: I guess it's time to trade paper ATC IOU's (maybe joking?)
usg_press_machin: So what's wrong with doing bitcoin while... say, obeying the law and paying taxes?
mircea_popescu: what's wrong with having sex while not getting an erection ?
mircea_popescu: nothing, i guess.
mircea_popescu: there is definitely something wrong if trying to present that as anything but fucking weird.
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, some people can't. which is fine. but don't go around claiming impotence as a virtue.
usg_press_machin: But this is the thing with my question about asking why you're into bitcoin.
usg_press_machin: If you're into it to go to the moon - mass adoption (hence legal frameworks) are key
usg_press_machin: if you're into it to fight the state, then go for it, I can respect that viewpoint.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c here's a good one for you : http://blogs.hbr.org/2014/08/venture-capitalists-get-paid-well-to-lose-money/ (Yet 2013 annual industry performance data from Cambridge Associates shows that venture capital continues to underperform the S&P 500, NASDAQ and Russell 2000.)
assbot: Venture Capitalists Get Paid Well to Lose Money - Diane Mulcahy - Harvard Business Review
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: usg_press_machin if you read the logs, you've seen how well this entire "try and force mp into our preconceived headboxes" worked before.
mircea_popescu: i don't fit.
usg_press_machin: What's your view on it then? I'm openminded.
decimation: bitcoin doesn't need anyone to have an opinion or thought about it in order to exist
mircea_popescu: myeah. it's not a collective dream.
BingoBoingo: usg_press_machin: There's at least 800 different alternatives to your two presented options and there are 796 of those alternatives are compatible with at least one other option. GO! Math!
mircea_popescu: and no, people don't "shape it" in that sense.
decimation: bitcoin has already gone to the moon, some of the world hasn't figured that out yet
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and here's one for you : http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/08/whats-matter-with-pgp.html jeez im on a roll today.
assbot: A Few Thoughts on Cryptographic Engineering: What's the matter with PGP?
mircea_popescu: "It's time for PGP to die. " sez author.
assbot: certificate transparency for PGP? | discrete blogarithm
ben_vulpes: !s with PGP
decimation: the fact that he says that the cryptography is old (and therefore bad) pretty much explains his cryptographic chops
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's so lulzy, the crap these people publish. "o i hate pgp, it's too secure, pls to use centrally distributed keys, so much lightyears better"
ben_vulpes: y'r late, boss
mircea_popescu: worst time to be stupid in the history of the world.
decimation: but mircea_popescu, you are leaving out the masses
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes omfg check that out
mircea_popescu: im way late.
mircea_popescu: sorry asciilifeform sorry chan. behind on my reading it seems
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And they completely forget that if you NEED end to end encryption... A key exchange is happening privately nomatter what yahoo or Gmaul's shit insists on
mircea_popescu: as if you know, plaintext mail isn't end to end encrypted. why not ? i do it all the time.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> but mircea_popescu, you are leaving out the masses << Is that what you want the oncologist to do?
mircea_popescu: by now i can sorta distinguish the noobs from the veterans because the noobs send me gpg blobs with "Content-Type: multipart/mixed;" mixed in, whereas the veterans just neatly paste the pgp in the email body.
ben_vulpes: gmanul
BingoBoingo: gmanul gmauls gmail
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: tell me about it i had a dev send me an ssh key in a fancy attachment the other day
ben_vulpes: "plz for to plaintext"
mircea_popescu: "The lack of transparent key management in PGP isn't unfixable. For those who don't trust Google or Yahoo, there are experimental systems like Keybase.io that attempt to tie keys to user identities."
decimation: I would agree with his point that the pgp protocol is complex, but I suspect that anything that tries to solve the same problems will have similar complexity
mircea_popescu: yeah, THAT is the solution. keybase.
mircea_popescu: please get me some anti-eyeroll tape i might strain something.
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: dunno if you're into this sort of thing but if you grabbed the logline in question with the same js that does the highlighting and slammed it into <title></title> would it show up for assbot to read directly into the chan?
mircea_popescu: decimation what part is complex anwyay ?
ben_vulpes: mind you i have no idea how assbot renders pages internally
ben_vulpes: or if there are less retarded ways to accomplish same
mircea_popescu: "(Let's not get into the NSA's collect-it-all policy for encrypted messages. If the NSA is your adversary just forget about PGP.)" << best part :D
ben_vulpes: now if !s stuff defaulted to ignoring bots as well...
mircea_popescu: "A proper approach to key management. This could be anything from centralized key management as in Apple's iMessage -- which would still be better than nothing -- to a decentralized (but still usable) approach like the one offered by Signal or OTR. Whatever the solution, in order to achieve mass deployment, keys need to be made much more manageable or else submerged from the user altogether."
mircea_popescu: ahahaah that';s right. submerged altogether!
mircea_popescu: how the fuck am i going to make gilded business cards then ?
kakobrekla: ben_vulpes url hash tags dont get sent to the server.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12717 @ 0.00072297 = 9.194 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: if the js that highlights the line also alters the title node would assbot be able to read that title?
mircea_popescu: usg_press_machin but anyway, a secondary point to your " obeying the law and paying taxes?" is that if you happen to be obeying the "laws" of a terrorist organisation and giving it money, you may end up in hot water with a lot of people.
kakobrekla: there are ways to execute js w/o a browser but that is kinda silly.
mircea_popescu: there's no rule of nature that says the us can never be so identified. for those people who do make that identification, you're a criminal.
ben_vulpes: ah well
usg_press_machin: mircea_popescu yes but I don't think paying taxes to the USG - no matter what the USG does - is Nuremberg material.
ben_vulpes: another good idea dies on the spikes of pressed shitboard
mircea_popescu: so you don't think.
mircea_popescu: do you know who else didn't think ?
mircea_popescu: everyone at nurnberg.
usg_press_machin: Reductio ad, not going to take the bait there.
mircea_popescu: how would you know ?
mircea_popescu: the future is eminently unknowable. i for one am definitely going to push for hangings.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00072316 = 18.9468 BTC [+] {2}
usg_press_machin: It's a question of legal convention. Paying legal taxes to a legally installed government has never, ever been considered a war crime. I'll take my chances
kakobrekla: it would be prolly better to detect log url, parse it and just go after the line directly in db
mircea_popescu: here's the legal convention : anyone who worked for the tsar in any capacity, 20 years diging ice in siberia.
mircea_popescu: it's what the tradition points to, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: and as to "never ever" : pre nurenberg, this trying of a foreign power's officers and ministers had also never ever happened.
mircea_popescu: precedent happens.
mircea_popescu: in short : your notion that sitting with the usg is safe and joining the rebels is dangerous is fundamentally broken. sitting with the usg is safe except if the rebels get the upper hand.
usg_press_machin: Is there a rebellion?
mircea_popescu: the situation is in fact quite symmetrical, whichever side you're on the other will prolly not like it.
mircea_popescu: well, inasmuch as someone';s breaking the law and not paying taxes, yes. that'd be the definition of a rebellion.
usg_press_machin: I'd disagree - that'd be protest. Rebellion implies something a bit more organised, serious, and threatening.
usg_press_machin: And generally involving force of arms.
mircea_popescu: how's this formal approach to things worked for you so far ?
mircea_popescu: to me it sounds kinda like "a movie can't be good if it doesn't have car chases and those anti-physical sparks bullets make in hollywood"
assbot: Bonds? What Bonds? | Liberty RoundTable
mircea_popescu: (but it rests me at ease to hear from the usg_press_machine itself that crypto is no longer armament)
mircea_popescu: !up usg_press_machin
justusranvier: I like Tom Baugh's tendency to corrupt the youth
mircea_popescu: that's more sexual perversion than rebellion neh ?
justusranvier: Read the last paragraph of that article
usg_press_machin: Thanks Mircea. I think crypto has a place to carve out individual privacy, but I don't think it necessarily follows that the only option is to view the relationship in terms of conflict. Reading now
mircea_popescu: all relationship is conflict.
usg_press_machin: Maybe. Depends on the definitions we use.
mircea_popescu: and privacy is not at stake. sovereignty is at stake.
usg_press_machin: Again, maybe. It depends on where you draw that line.
usg_press_machin: And what definitions you use.
ben_vulpes: pity those of us fighting for sovereignty
mircea_popescu: not like it's exactly a mystery what definitions i use :D
usg_press_machin: If "sovereign" means "monopoly on the use of force" or determining how force should be used, I'm in the camp that the state makes that call. There should be exceptions and limitations, and it's the task of politically active people to make sure those lines reflect their views.
mircea_popescu: you can be in any camp you want, because with bitcoin what camp you're in dun matter anymore.
usg_press_machin: mircea_popescu definitely not!
mircea_popescu: the state can't exist.
justusranvier: Point of order: "the state" doesn't exist. People exist, buildings exist, guns exist, drones exist.
usg_press_machin: I mean, it's not a reified critter, definitely. But it qua legal fiction certainly exists - it's an abstraction.
justusranvier: "the state" is an excuse one group of people make up to explain why their crimes are actually virtuous
mircea_popescu: not an effectual one anymore.
usg_press_machin: I think it was Hannah Arendt who pointed it out - "bureaucracy is rule by nobody"
mircea_popescu: well bureaucracy needs to control the money, and so that's the end of that.
mircea_popescu: the state as a voluntary association, all they who choose and wish to pay taxe sand obeys the law is what we have here already.
mircea_popescu: and it dun look all that "normal".
justusranvier: Murder is murder, no matter what kind of costume somebody wears. "The state" is the lie that a magic costume can turn murder into "public policy" or some other such nonsense.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier you'll never get out of killing people.
mircea_popescu: as distasteful as that reality may be.
justusranvier: True, there will always be murders. What can be ended is the myth that murder isn't evil just because somebody drapes a fancy title on themselves and cloaks their actions in euphamisms
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18821 @ 0.00072497 = 13.6447 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: a wild!
mircea_popescu: that's also never going away. if i thought the victim was kinda cool i'd not have killed them. once i killed them, obviously i will go on thinking they sucked.
justusranvier: The myth has nothing to do with the mindset of the murder - it's about everbody else.
mircea_popescu: maybe the murderer is persuasive ?
mircea_popescu: statistically, some will be.
mircea_popescu: the salem trials is the convenient case study here. you can decry them as "incipient government establishing itself the way government establiushes itself all time, all places : through murder". but just as well... people kill, and some killers are persuasive.
justusranvier: Psychopaths gonna psycho in any situation. The current situation is that when certain psychopaths put on the right costume, all of a sudden something flips in everybody else's brains wherein they regard the actions of the psychopath in completely oppostie moral terms.
mircea_popescu: well ok, so now we can agree, the problem is the red tape.
mircea_popescu: "this isn't a good apple because its not fda approved" "have you tasted it ?" "i don't need to"
mircea_popescu: has nothing to do with murder. everything to do with college degrees, global warming and so on.
usg_press_machin: I think the problem is that governments can do nasty things. We each have our own way of dealing with it. I do so within the rules the system sets out; MP does it his own way. Different approaches.
mircea_popescu: that ~used~ to be the problem, before we met, for many years.
mircea_popescu: the reason we met is because for a few years that is no longer the problem.
usg_press_machin: What, playing ball?
mircea_popescu: the problem now is that government has no further reason to exist and no means of supporting itself.
usg_press_machin: Agree to disagree on the last point.
mircea_popescu: no biggy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3557 @ 0.00072752 = 2.5878 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;google malpidity
usg_press_machin: mircea_popescu if you're ever in London drop a line. Would be happy to thrash this out over a beer sometime.
mircea_popescu: i hate london, and why do you think a pub somewhere'd be a better venue ?!
BingoBoingo: USG likes roofies?
mircea_popescu: people think best with a written record, i find.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol yeah, ~that's~ totally happening.
BingoBoingo: !up dpb_twitter
dpb_twitter: KEOW KEOW OOI
dpb_twitter: it's me, everyone's favorite xanthyos
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Doping your drink in London though might be the USG's one chance to try to rape you for a change
dpb_twitter: dpb is pwning the forums with his #derpreport
usg_press_machin: Ha! Not necessarily a better one. But as BingoBoingo pointed out, USG shillery always better in person
BingoBoingo: In mean those drones with their extradition bombs and all that jazz
BingoBoingo: The slavegirls mounting a rescue op to reverse-extradite
mircea_popescu: anyone read teh derpreport in question ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I've been following his forum trolling a bit, some decent reads
assbot: Twitter / Suche - #derpreport
BingoBoingo swears the only thing worse than netsplits is netreunions
BingoBoingo: !up usg_press_machin
usg_press_machin: thx BingoBoingo
ben_vulpes: ;;isitdown danielpbarron.com
gribble: danielpbarron.com is up
assbot: Is Anyone Using Bitcoin Yet?
mircea_popescu: speaking of specialised hardware, anyone got a box somewhere they want to rent me ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what kind ?
mircea_popescu: the mining kind
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.03 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s
mircea_popescu: this thing needs some support.
mod6: yea
BingoBoingo wonders how much a Petahash is to rent...
asciilifeform wonders how much atomic dirigible is to rent
ben_vulpes has estimated the roi on renting hashes for atc
ben_vulpes has also forgotten the results
asciilifeform catches up on log
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: veterans just neatly paste the pgp in the email body << wait, vs. what ?
asciilifeform: anyone who worked for the tsar in any capacity, 20 years diging ice << nah. most of them (including herr dzugashvili...) just got a new krysha.
asciilifeform: and not a few of the best gestapo folks ended up in stasi, etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform firefox extensions and whatnot
mircea_popescu: yeah, most of them had enough sense to get in the wot. kinda my point there.
usg_press_machin: Right chaps, I'm out. Night all.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00072509 = 12.8341 BTC [-]
decimation: "what part is complex [of pgp]" << when I do a gpg --list-packets --verbose < pubkey I find much that I desire to be documented
decimation: asciilifeform: do you know of a document that gives a detailed description of the innards of gpg file formats etc?
asciilifeform: decimation: rfc-4880.
asciilifeform has a well-thumbed hardbound copy of this thing next to keyboard
decimation: ah yeah that's what I want thanks
asciilifeform: (no, it isn't sold in dead tree, make your own if you must)
assbot: Bitcoin sites leaked :( - Big bitcoin members emails database
decimation: asciilifeform: do you think that this protocol could be made to be more simple?
asciilifeform: decimation: it's pretty simple, at least with regard to the basics
asciilifeform: decimation: one can - and i do - disregard the useless crud
mircea_popescu: no argument there's a lot of useless crud in there.
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/KaWsDgdq << lulzy. what's with all the colors ?
assbot: [MySQL] Bitcoin Database Hacked - more than 4500 emails/pass free - Pastebin.com
asciilifeform: decimation: 'cardano, design and operation' will include a nicely whittled version of 4880.
mircea_popescu: !up diatonic
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "syntax: MYSQL"
decimation: asciilifeform: I presume you are going to dump support for useless cryptos and compressions, etc?
asciilifeform: decimation: how'd you guess.
decimation: obvious is obvious I guess :)
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.03 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s
decimation: it seems to me that the cli for signing subkeys is less straightforward than it could be as well
asciilifeform: decimation: that's nothing to do with 4880
decimation: asciilifeform: no, that's a complaint about the gpg user interface
ben_vulpes: "code works fine, user is broken"
ben_vulpes: somewhere between "its possible but a nightmare" and "all defaults configured for you" is zen ui
assbot: Mining Rig Rentals | Rigs
Blazedout419: never seen any rentals at the 1 PH rate though lol
mircea_popescu: Blazedout419 do they do custom jobs tho ?
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