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mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 592.9, Best ask: 592.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 592.99, 24 hour volume: 5334.71653921, 24 hour low: 579.0, 24 hour high: 595.0, 24 hour vwap: 0
mircea_popescu: all these noobs going join/part are kinda lulzy by now
TheNewDeal: provides some visual excitement
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you're doing it wrong. kbd should be in front of monitor not behind
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what's the deal with lordosis?
TheNewDeal: currently on the search for a % base graph of bitcoin days destroyed
TheNewDeal: lordosis shows party girl vs mommy status
TheNewDeal: at least, that was the word yesterday
ben_vulpes: well, wife status was the word.
mircea_popescu: lobbes yes, it does.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you mean the lordosis ~behaviour~ it's this female mammal response to being hawt.
fluffypony: I thought bird was the word
mircea_popescu: nono, the word is bird
mircea_popescu: stop mixing the codebooks fluff.
mircea_popescu: step 1. set down bottle without looking. part 2. set it down on usb stick. step 3. bottle overturns and falls over, exactly cork down. part 4. nothing further happens.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: in that picture you said you could tell who was wifed, as they weren't displaying lordosis
ben_vulpes: is that a function of having borne young or not feeling hawt?
mircea_popescu: dude. lordosis just like that is usually a pathologic curvature of the spine. teh lordosis ~behaviour~ is different.
mircea_popescu: and the idea was only boring women get married anyway.
ben_vulpes goes back to work
assbot: Saving The NYC Egg Sandwich by JoeyScoops — Kickstarter
assbot: Saving The NYC Egg Sandwich by JoeyScoops — Kickstarter
mircea_popescu: decimation: Hayden emphasized that the personnel problems are far less significant than the technological ones << well, i disagree. now, from a bureaucrat pov, sure, they generally can fill any jobs they want filled, according to their selection process. this however does not mean they are gaining any sort of valuable human capital.
mircea_popescu: on the contrary.
mircea_popescu: decimation: at any rate it's not clear to me that clowns like Hayden or Alexander would even recognize skills if they saw them << precisely. suppose they DO recognise them, like, "this chick looks like she could suck a golfball through a gardenhose." now what ? the last guy that recognised that skill lost his job.
mircea_popescu: it's the easiest skill to recognise, too. so... not much hope. they're hiring people, sure, but people only google/microsoft/apple/amazon would hire if they didn't.
TheNewDeal: MP, whered you get the idea for the brk-a bet?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform:they aren't rich, in the customary sense - but not paupers. << compare what'd happen to the us bureaucrat pauper vs the russian bureaucrat once someone in a hostile nation put the kaibosh on them. they're paupers.
assbot: An era ends today. A new era starts today. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: gotta show the world who's boss.
mircea_popescu: more importantly, gotta show the kids what it means to be the boss and what a boss does.
mircea_popescu: otherwise they may end up bamboozled by the nonsense fetishism of pseudo-power the ycombinator swamp is pusing, "in order to interact with power acceptably you must give it away in exchange for the trappings of it". tlp discusses the matter extensively and well.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ;;google senior executive service pay << these folk get options. whole different story, as bubbles happen 3-5 times in a lifetime.
TheNewDeal: just curious. I was trying to make a bet on MMM on a BTC basis in the past, and it kept on getting rejected. The brk-a bet surfaced not too long after
mircea_popescu: the russian scam ?!
mircea_popescu: well, the brk bet had the major advantage of 1k zeroconf. that has ~0% chances of being rejected.
TheNewDeal: no doubt. I think it's a great bet, and a somewhat ballsy one as well
mircea_popescu: it already paid lulz in spades. buffett held his yearly meet, supposedly "couldn't find any short". just the embarassment of that...
TheNewDeal: couldnt find any short?
TheNewDeal: what do you mean?
mircea_popescu: yes. i mean they claimed to want to invite someone who's short their thing, but to not be able to find one.
mircea_popescu: as far as i'm concerned, when the luminaries of the previous generation are careful to avoid playing you, more recognition is not really needed. it'll come, of course, but it's moot.
TheNewDeal: I am curious to see how confident investors are after his death.
TheNewDeal: I don't know how much he actually does for the company, but he is quite the figure head
mircea_popescu: i imagine about as much as i do for mpif
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00088024 = 3.8731 BTC [-]
TheNewDeal: or f.derp :D
mircea_popescu: prolly not that much lol
TheNewDeal: bet also presents a decent hedging opportunity. Speaking of which, I'm loving all these active price bets lately
mircea_popescu: something tells me you're not the only one lol
mircea_popescu: but yeah, kinda surpriosed not more people are trying to arbitrage it, short brk bet on no sorta thing
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 281 @ 0.00229033 = 0.6436 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00087258 = 9.2493 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !up Newar
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18429 @ 0.0008654 = 15.9485 BTC [-]
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 410974.74 in 61 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -40.19
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.03 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 3737.96 GH/s
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021697 B (Total: 474.46 B). Delta: -0.06 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1111 @ 0.00194866 = 2.165 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: !up steven-__
steven-__: thanks, mircea_popescu any thoughts on the no agenda show? searched on trilema but couldn't find anything.
mircea_popescu: what's this ?
steven-__: its a news / comedy show but it also has a strong fan base that sends in tips they broke that bo birddog? story pretty much the house it happened
steven-__: theyhttps://www.noagendaplayer.com/listen/641/1-52-36
steven-__: facebook exec on todays show https://www.noagendaplayer.com/listen/641/1-52-36
assbot: No Agenda Player
mircea_popescu: is this related to noagendamarket ?
steven-__: no it has nothing to do with bitcoin
mircea_popescu: ah cool. well it's the first time i see this thing, seems it appeared sometime last week. what's it, like some sort of internet radio show basically ?
steven-__: they have been doing 2 shows a week for almost 600 eps
mircea_popescu: oh. then an ignorance is me.
steven-__: in the same way b-a is sort of a internet chat room
mircea_popescu: so do you know them ?
steven-__: no
mircea_popescu: aite, well, makes two of us.
steven-__: http://adam.curry.com/art/1397083690_rSDMrmAt.html
assbot: Richard Quest, CNN Reporter, Arrested On Drug Charges [Printable]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.00195 = 1.365 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00087233 = 2.3553 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10198 @ 0.00087233 = 8.896 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00086946 = 25.0404 BTC [-] {3}
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 410190.41 in 60 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -40.31
mircea_popescu: maybe not quite as stable yet as all that.
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 314514 | Current Difficulty: 1.9729645940577133E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 316511 | Next Difficulty In: 1997 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 11 hours, 33 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 23740552664.0 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.32934
BingoBoingo: !up adrrr
assbot: Fund Coin Fire on Bitcoin Starter! - Coin Fire
adrrr: hi
BingoBoingo: Hi adrrr
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4801 @ 0.0008724 = 4.1884 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: * ChanServ removes voice from adrrr * assbot gives voice to adrrr << Can't Chanserv and assbot learn to get along?
xmj: BingoBoingo: not invented here
xmj: assbot: is a case of NIH
mircea_popescu: chanserv is evil
mircea_popescu: "Mike (Executive Editor) - Mike has been following Bitcoin for the last several months and got fed up of sites that are full of advertisements and didn’t provide the latest news"
mircea_popescu: what a bio.
mircea_popescu: last several months by now. looking forward to convergence towards "two weeks"
mircea_popescu: Sponsors : earn bitcoin for clicking ads, win bitcoins today etc. so much win.
mircea_popescu: "The fund which received regulator approval from the Isle of Jersey back in back in July and was set to launch this month has joined The Bitcoin Foundation as a Silver Member."
mircea_popescu: clearly not a pr piece.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, So the solution requesting money kickstarter style with... Ads as compensation... but no adult ads please (paraphrasing their crowdfunding page)
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in my inbox, "Hemant.Gupta.d1:58 am 70 million Email list @ 199$ limited period offer."
mircea_popescu: https://dribbble.com/hemant_gupta99 prolly not this guy, but... dribble ?!
assbot: Dribbble - Hemant Gupta
mircea_popescu: "Here we are just a few short months later and we’ve heard from various people in the industry that we are quickly creating one of the most reliable cryptocurrency news sites and we’ve gathered up a team of kick ass volunteers to help us grow this madness out."
mircea_popescu: who the fuck "in the industry"
mircea_popescu: 0 backers pledged 0.00090000 Ƀ 38 days to go << how the fuck does that work.
BingoBoingo: "Here we are just a few short months later and we’ve heard from various people in the industry that we are quickly creating one of the most reliable cryptocurrency news sites and we’ve gathered up a team of kick ass volunteers to help us grow this madness out." << Is this in reference to the pats on the back for making a phone call and finding out "insured wallet" wasn't insured?
mircea_popescu: ;;seen coinfire
gribble: coinfire was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 6 days, 14 hours, 45 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <CoinFire> Thanks for the invite! :)
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell coinfire how about i give you a bitcoin in exchange for not being retarded anymore.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nfi. smh. etc.
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea how all these murican types mange to get through college. seems to me the most, the BY FAR MOST difficult thing for them is sitting the fuck down, keeping quiet and paying attention.
mircea_popescu: o no, gotta express oneself. here we are after just a few short month on the campus, with something to say on all topics and we always wanted to try the swamp out!
BingoBoingo: Hangovers? Easy way to sit the fuck down and keep quiet.
BingoBoingo: Not so good for paying attention though
mircea_popescu: must be.
BingoBoingo: Then the self expressing sort pass because the professors hangovers mercifully keep them from paying attention to self expression
BingoBoingo: Will collapse eventually because the snake can't grow faster than it can eat itself
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight do you get your gribble pms ?
BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight
BingoBoingo: ;;seen DreadKnight
gribble: DreadKnight was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 22 hours, 56 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <DreadKnight> that's not how you play frogger
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, yes
assbot: Vat of eggnog flavoring explodes at lab; 2 hurt
DreadKnight: a bit caught up with silly freelancing atm; and the heat doesn't help xD
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lemme tell you a joke.
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight you should be in ba. it's like 18 here.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Shoot
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so, accident at the distillery in edinburgh. one dead. work safety inspection follows. inspector interviews eyewitness workers
mircea_popescu: "so how did it happen ?" "well, billy mcglurgh was balancing above the main vat when he fell in"
mircea_popescu: "that must have killed him instantly"
mircea_popescu: "oh, no, he came out for olives six or seven times"
assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/15GP7A5.txt )
BingoBoingo: lol, That's a way to go out
assbot: [SCAM IPO] AcoinL.L.C; Smack_That_Ace; www.Localpunter.com [SCAM IPO]
BingoBoingo: I just love the people calling scams now are people advertising and soliciting IPO help
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, sounds good, compared to 32 degrees here (I'm more of a winter / cold person)
mircea_popescu: lol "a professional" ==== "someone who gave <tips> on a forum populated by retards"
assbot: Smack That Ace is using a ring of accounts to create scams!
DreadKnight: I got so many PM offers on bitcointalk to sell my account
DreadKnight: most annoying forum to get on
assbot: Stiinta si pseudostiinta pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight it's an absolute cesspool. i doubt 4chan could make a worse one if they tried.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's a great one
BingoBoingo: "Through there passes the hand of job and speaks:" << This needs used more.
mircea_popescu: it's almost perfect nonsense
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight what freelancing do you do anyway ?
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, I agree regarding the forum; will check some of alternatives as well
DreadKnight: regarding freelancing, mainly graphics (2d / 3d) and various computer stuff (helping people with crowd funding for example)
mircea_popescu: i want someone to do romanian to english translation.
DreadKnight: Internet is full of that so I didn't bothered with it, but I could do
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00087206 = 12.9065 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: London Film and Comic Con 2014 - YouTube
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, are you looking to get your older blog posts translated or only write in romanian and get constant conversion?
mircea_popescu: older, and not even mine.
BingoBoingo: Oh poker sockpuppeteer scamzor dude posts on PeterL's thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708813.msg8207565#msg8207565
assbot: MPEx securities discussion thread
mircea_popescu: i don't think mine are even translatable in the first place. maybe by someone that's mentally ill and quite drunk.
DreadKnight: that chick has less views on the video than her number of subscribers, that's really bad
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, yeah, would be wanting to translate your blog posts for sure lol
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i don't think mine are even translatable in the first place. maybe by someone that's mentally ill and quite drunk. << Even then it always took me so many iterations to even come close
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol
BingoBoingo: True story
mircea_popescu: i knew i should have put "who gets lucky" in there too
assbot: Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1WJJ655.txt )
mircea_popescu: " I would rather trust my funds with Cryptostocks than MPEx" well that's a winning proposition for sure. i would say he should, and that'll be punishment enough.
DreadKnight: my badly rushed grammar got stucked in that bash xD
mircea_popescu: never rush grammar for one never knows when the amber's droplet's about to drop.
mircea_popescu: minus a 's in there.
DreadKnight: so I found this awesome commenting system / forum a while ago, but the devs stick with a manifest to not allow editing posts for too long; and even the devs make no sense in posts at times xD
mircea_popescu: ask them if they want bitcoin advertising ?
mircea_popescu: im paying 10 bux a day for the rest of the month.
mircea_popescu: who's pummle ?
mircea_popescu: monthold acct, tryin to fight the good fight among the nuts, it's one of you gais isn;'t it
DreadKnight: they don't seem to be accepting bitcoins yet
mircea_popescu: "WoT is a gimmick just like GPG. 99.9% of bitcoin businesses don't take it seriously." o the win in that. lmao.
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight do they seem to be making 10 bux a day yet ?
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, they seem to be making more, nice SaaS business plan compared to disqus, but I don't like not being able to edit posts, so will keep my distance
DreadKnight: haven't seen ads on their website
mircea_popescu: you can't edit lines in here...
mircea_popescu: lol sec.
mircea_popescu: !up DreadKnight
DreadKnight: this is IRC, perfectly fine
BingoBoingo: who's pummle ? << peterl's new account
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 120 @ 0.00431082 = 0.5173 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: "Why do you think no real stock exchanges use gpg?"
mircea_popescu: lmao that guy is going to be so much fun in a decade or so. i r hope someone's saving jjmothy's derpage, just in case he goes all goat later on
BingoBoingo: Maybe if .lk guy show up again we can see if he'll put a bow on that package
mircea_popescu: a right, there's the auto lk proxy
DreadKnight: regarding listing something on MPEx etc, only the IPO brings in money overall, so would rather buy part of the stocks myself for cheap and sell them later? or advertise the IPO to a lot of people?
mircea_popescu: http://danielpbarron.com/ << check out this guy's page. old school.
assbot: Daniel P. Barron
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight come again ?
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, still trying to figure out the whole listing business, most articles are about buying stock, not listing
mircea_popescu: okay, but what specifically are you trying to do ?
DreadKnight: if I were to list Ancient Beast to get funding for it
mircea_popescu: problem there would be that your putative investors would have relatively little reason to believe you won't simply walk after the listing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00086897 = 17.0318 BTC [-]
DreadKnight: that applies to most things online
mircea_popescu: not really.
BingoBoingo: Safest option would be prolly one where Ancient Beast comes into the S.MG fold
mircea_popescu: maybe, but i was kinda planning on eulora having an in-game card game, in the style of arcomage in mm6/7
mircea_popescu: except better.
mircea_popescu: (obviously. for the record, any "like" i do re eulora must be prepended with "Except better". and appended too, for safety)
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, are you designing Eulora?
DreadKnight: is that Minigames artwork? a bit confused
mircea_popescu: yes, it is.
mircea_popescu: splash screen
mircea_popescu: well, one of.
DreadKnight: by Jason Jute, who does a lot of Wizards of the Coast cards
BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight
mircea_popescu: an' that's all for me.
mircea_popescu: take it ezzy good ppl of teh cryptos.
DreadKnight: rest well
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, feel free to link me to that blog you said it needs translated
BingoBoingo: !up [1]bonusdz
DreadKnight: ;;later tell mircea_popescu feel free to link me to that blog you said it needs translated; taking a look at solforge atm, I'm not too much into card games, but it has a very nice website at least :) seems the game was crowd funded
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11449 @ 0.00086897 = 9.9488 BTC [-]
chetty: <DreadKnight> mircea_popescu, are you designing Eulora?// and redesigning too!
DreadKnight: chetty, are you trying out the prototype from time to time or what?
chetty: I am actively coding the game DreadKnight
DreadKnight: ;;later tell mircea_popescu seems solforge is not browser based and there are no linux / mac versions, pff
gribble: The operation succeeded.
DreadKnight: chetty, oh; I don't know much about it though, seems a bit underground atm
chetty: well its early alpha but there is a server running and we have channel here #eulora
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00086638 = 11.3496 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 314529 | Current Difficulty: 1.9729645940577133E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 316511 | Next Difficulty In: 1982 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 23707652761.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.16259
BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 408602.59 in 56 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -40.54
DreadKnight: <mircea_popescu> maybe, but i was kinda planning on eulora having an in-game card game, in the style of arcomage in mm6/7 <-- well, I'm not making a MMORPG, so no direct competition xD plus I already have the combat system for my project in place
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11681 @ 0.00086662 = 10.123 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00086756 = 4.251 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6101 @ 0.00086881 = 5.3006 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15221 @ 0.00087098 = 13.2572 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !s matheny
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00086756 = 5.5958 BTC [-]
chetty: eulora wiki has my hack at compile instructions for gentoo if anybody wants to try it http://www.eulorum.org/Installing_Eulora#Linux
assbot: Installing Eulora - Eulorum
BingoBoingo: !up [KS]
BingoBoingo: Nice host name [KS]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35355 @ 0.00086587 = 30.6128 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15429 @ 0.00087098 = 13.4384 BTC [+]
DreadKnight: ;;later tell mircea_popescu so much for solforge shitty wordpress website, only managed to read a page and it got hacked, hilarious http://i3.minus.com/ibySTyaR5vkNgB.png
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: DreadKnight: Wait, 1337 haxxors use Hushmail nao?
BigBitz: Heh Hushmail got dem privkeysm yo.
BigBitz: DreadKnight you should get oneTab.
DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, that email address extends the joke :D
DreadKnight: BigBitz, looking into it, I'm actually using something similar that saves memory from idle tabs
assbot: Chrome Web Store - TabMemFree
BigBitz: Ah, cool.
BigBitz: don't use hushmail :P
DreadKnight: hushmail was only used to go along with "hush QQ" part (as in "stop crying from so much buthurt" type of thing)
DreadKnight: seems OneTab is more popular and better rated
DreadKnight: TabMemFree kinda pawned some of my tabs at times, had to do manual work to recover each idle one, not cool
DreadKnight: thanks for the recommendation BigBitz
BigBitz: np dude.
DreadKnight: had a feeling something good will come out of that screenie :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16636 @ 0.00087158 = 14.4996 BTC [+] {2}
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 407061.53 in 51 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -40.76
assbot: Charting culture - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00087047 = 22.8934 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.0008721 = 19.8403 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up thickasthieves
BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight
thickasthieves: <+mircea_popescu> https://dribbble.com/hemant_gupta99 prolly not this guy, but... dribble ?! /// you might have some respect for dribbble.com, I forget the whole story by now, but it was started by an elitist graphic designer as an invite-only community meant to prioritize quality. Sorta like a WoTty deviant art. I havent followed it for years tho...
assbot: Dribbble - Hemant Gupta
thickasthieves: i see it's no longer got the WoT aspect, tis freemiun
thickasthieves: freemium
thickasthieves: wait maybe it's still kinda there "All players (members who can post shots) are drafted (invited) by members. Having members take responsibility for those they draft sharpens the focus on sharing interesting work."
BingoBoingo: Interesting
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22002 @ 0.00087451 = 19.241 BTC [+] {2}
thickasthieves: ;;balance 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
gribble: 25081.3463102
thickasthieves: another 1000btc today
chetty: whats that ?
thickasthieves: etherium wallet
mike_c: ether bought at inflated prices.
thickasthieves: if mp issued his offer as a coupon it may have worked
thickasthieves: or a groupon
mike_c: half off ether!!
chetty: lmao
thickasthieves: put it on retailmenot
chetty: omg, its on sale, must have somes, somes what?, doesn't matter its on sale!
thickasthieves: like those tv shows with women getting $3000 of hand soap for $3
mike_c: I mean.. i actually feel that pull. 1,000 BTC of ether sold yesterday, and I can get it for 40% of the cost they paid.
thickasthieves: it's an inverse risk tho
mike_c: inverse who?
thickasthieves: the more people buy now, the harder it will fall later
thickasthieves: your 40% might not be good enough
chetty: 3000$ of soap, whats that 3 lifetime supply?
mike_c: true.
mike_c: but the background video on their homepage is so freaking cool
thickasthieves: and those desktop backgrounds!
thickasthieves: such brand
mike_c: scam aside, the design actually isn't bad.
thickasthieves: it's great
thickasthieves: everything they did is visually pro
thickasthieves: that's what they are selling really
mike_c: quite effectively
thickasthieves: indeed, no competition
thickasthieves: it's how i got into doing btc securities
thickasthieves: it's easy to stand out when everyone looks like a bum
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BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 314554 | Current Difficulty: 1.9729645940577133E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 316511 | Next Difficulty In: 1957 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 5 hours, 33 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 22448156450.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.77881
pete_dushenski: ;;nethash
gribble: 142565323.893
thickasthieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 22448156450.1 based on data since last change | 19915841778.6 based on data for last three days
thickasthieves: why are we striking iraq again?
chetty: must protect the innocent ya know
chetty wonders how many people got killed by dropping them water and food
mike_c: "the pesh merga now complain of being short on ammunition and outgunned by militants who have seized caches of advanced U.S. military equipment from the Iraqi army."
thickasthieves: i suppose it makes more sense to drop bombs than guns
chetty: must equally equip the sides, or its not FAIR
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pankkake: Bitcoin is an open protocol for online decentralized transactions. In the Bitcoin P2P network, there are transaction processors (nodes called "minors") and nodes that perform transactions using a wallet. Everyone can be an auditor ("minor") and everyone can send and receive bitcoins, without necessarily being a "minor".
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Where is this lulzy summary?
pankkake: Paymium.com :p
pankkake: hello davout
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pankkake: mineur can mean miner and minor, in French
pankkake: and of course Bitcoin is used mostly by 15 year olds
davout: pankkake: ohai
pankkake: so it isn't entirely wrong
davout: lol where the fuck is that?
assbot: Paymium | The European exchange
wywialm: hello
davout: lol, i'll leave it like that, for the lulz
davout: i'll add a mention about assymetric crypto
decimation: maybe that is where the COIN fund will buy BTC
decimation: are there any folks from the UK that have used this exchange? https://secure.netagio.com/
assbot: Netagio Securely Buy, Sell and Store Your Bitcoins and Gold
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 407121.03 in 50 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -40.76
assbot: The Lie Behind 1.2 Billion Stolen Passwords
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17937 @ 0.00087293 = 15.6577 BTC [-]
decimation: apparently the Netagio exchange pays a 0.1% rebate per trade if they are out-of-the-money, to encourage liquidity. In-the-money trades are charged 0.5% fee
BigBitz: ;;gpg info decimation
gribble: User 'decimation', with keyid 106FEE1B40AA2A95, fingerprint 22B34B42FE4414F836EBACD6106FEE1B40AA2A95, and bitcoin address None, registered on Fri Apr 25 00:22:58 2014, last authed on Thu Aug 7 14:40:39 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=decimation . Currently authenticated from hostmask decimation!~decimatio@unaffiliated/decimation .
BigBitz: are you affiliated with them decimation? :)
decimation: nope, just curious, I don't even have an account there. That is why I am soliciting information from those who may have.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 291 @ 0.00235 = 0.6839 BTC [-] {3}
mike_c: wasn't there a guy in here doing the first-best-greatest UK btc exchange?
assbot: Custom Porn and Bitcoin Story | Banks Worst Fear
chetty: <mike_c> wasn't there a guy in here doing the first-best-greatest UK btc exchange?// at least 3 times
decimation: mike_c yeah I vaguely remember that guy
mike_c: BingoBoingo: that girl's a worker. good for her.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Yeah bespoke porn is an under rated niche
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
decimation: the netagio exchange is affiliated with goldmoney (is a spinoff) which has a good rep for gold trading, as far as I know
BigBitz: That's CoinFloor isn't it?
BigBitz: Nefario^ the GLBSE guy?
BingoBoingo: Oh shit!
BingoBoingo: Only one letter difference!
mike_c: two letters. math is hard.
BigBitz: Oh netagio you mean, no... Nefario (if I recall) is involved with CoinFloor.
decimation: yeah the choice of name is unfortunate for them
assbot: Yahoo To Add PGP Encryption For Email - Slashdot
BingoBoingo: decimation: Unfortunate enough to illustrate they don't know the space they have chosen to operate in
mike_c: two letters different is better than kraken
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00087023 = 8.2672 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: and just as i was setting up a new @yahoo email account ;)
BingoBoingo: Well, PGP as a browser plugin seems horrid.
BingoBoingo: Pretty soon there are going to be all these new public keys and no idea if the person you are mailing to is just letting Yahoo of a JS plugin do the decryption
pankkake: I have not seen any mention of PGP in the actual sources
pankkake: they're actually mentionning inventing something new, together with google…
pete_dushenski: pankkake: hm ya
pete_dushenski: they don't use it by name, just "end-to-end encryption" or some such
pete_dushenski: not sure where derpy blogger got the idea that pgp is anywhere involved
pete_dushenski: and that yahoo is working with google is… the end
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24897 @ 0.00086986 = 21.6569 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Yahoo has an odd history of who it partners with, bouncing back and forth between Google and Microsoft.
chetty: <pete_dushenski> and that yahoo is working with google is… the end// dun dun dun
BigBitz: Google: The Internet Police.
pete_dushenski: BigBitz: basically
BigBitz: Yup...
pete_dushenski: but the question is: is yahoo any better?
chetty: yahoo: police cadet corps.
pete_dushenski: making hotmail the boy scouts
pete_dushenski: and hushmail the girl scouts
BigBitz: hushmail got dem keys yo.
BigBitz: giving da key up erryday.
assbot: Democracy vs. Aristocracy | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: BigBitz: well, at least they use keys
pete_dushenski: which is sorta like using a ripped condom
pete_dushenski: "well, better than nothing!"
thickasthieves: lol could you pick a worse example?
thickasthieves: better than nothing, condoms? ha!
BigBitz: lol
BigBitz: yeah but they give up the keys if the .gov ask.
pete_dushenski: thickasthieves: here, condoms are pgp, ripped condoms are hushmail, and bareback is gmail
thickasthieves: who uses a ripped condom tho?
mike_c: inb4 women who want a baby!
pete_dushenski: mike_c: lol
pete_dushenski: ok, a really cheap condom that is highly likely to break
pete_dushenski: so pgp is trojan, hushmail is some flavoured thing from a bathroom vending machine
pete_dushenski: hushmail looks intact and you probably can't see clearly enough to care if it isn't so, y'know, good enough
BigBitz: Hushmail is the condom with the pin through it.
pete_dushenski: AndreasMAntonopoulos @aantonop "I’ve been asked to appear as a witness to present information and Q&A at a Canadian Senate hearing on Bitcoin. Should I say yes or not?"
pete_dushenski: obviously, derpopolous should take this opportunity to tell the federalis how the blockchain is going to decentralize smart contracts and replace bureaucrats with dacs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17616 @ 0.00087074 = 15.339 BTC [+] {2}
BigBitz: Oh God.
BigBitz: I don't like that guy.
pete_dushenski: he's awful
assbot: Squeegee men are back terrorizing NYC streets | New York Post
BigBitz: How is he such 'important' to people pete_dushenski?
pete_dushenski: BigBitz: he was a naive optimist with a podcast
pete_dushenski: he was at the right place at the right time to lead a bunch of redditards to their doom
pete_dushenski: he pumped neobee and some other scams
BigBitz: Ah yes - he was the NeoBee moron.
pete_dushenski: he was an inspirational speaker compared to anyone else at the time
BigBitz: Yet he's got some sort of accolade.
BigBitz facepalms.
pete_dushenski: he's definitely gone quiet since mp killed him
pete_dushenski: he also finagled his way into a cto positions at blockchain.info
pete_dushenski: where he famously went on a weeklong radio silence vacation right then bc.info was getting haxxored the hardest
BigBitz: Yeah I saw that as well...
BigBitz: that made me laugh, a lot.
BigBitz: He's a joke.
BigBitz: what did MP do?
BigBitz: ask him to 4+4 ?
BingoBoingo: Killed him on twitter
assbot: The Five Biggest Threats Facing CoinDesk and Anyone Who Reads It | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: it came down to privilege
BigBitz: Hmm.
BigBitz: Fool.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14689 @ 0.00086994 = 12.7785 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: http://instagram.com/p/rcLb0Htq0N/ << argentina gets a bitcoin atm
assbot: Instagram
pete_dushenski: looks ready to be walked away with
assbot: Can I make anonymous btc donations to myself in order to clean my cash so I can spend it? : Bitcoin
BigBitz: rate seems expensive.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 15.70883608 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1366 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 200 @ 0.01475 = 2.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.62830088 BTC to 12`777 shares, 12744 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 3.39773396 BTC to 29`438 shares, 11542 satoshi per share
BingoBoingo: !up moiety
moiety: thanks
BingoBoingo: How have you been since saving the flat?
moiety: ;; later tell mircea_popescu i didn't talk to them, it was a message left. unsure what to do with the phone line?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: its an ongoing thing BingoBoingo not going so well
moiety: square 1 every month
BingoBoingo: The fight never ends
assbot: Please stop vote brigading. : Buttcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00087322 = 9.2561 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell moiety unsure what to do with the phone line? << iirc it was prepaid for a year, did a btc's worth of call answering run out already ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight yeah solforge is one of these tablet/steam only types of things. a lot of people are (stupidly) going that way these days.
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 404777.01 in 45 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -41.10
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 69 @ 0.01491943 = 1.0294 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: Finally under 50 blocks until we find out what diff does next
moiety: It's been three months. It's been extremely quiet for the past two. I did say at the time, should we not do a month or three to see how it went is what i mean mircea_popescu.
BingoBoingo: !up moiety
moiety: ty
assbot: How to Use Your Cat to Hack Your Neighbor’s Wi-Fi | Threat Level | WIRED
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33497 @ 0.00086805 = 29.0771 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: ^ In your neck of the woods
mircea_popescu: moiety kinda good to have in the background sort of thing imo. that's kinda the idea, i never expected any significant sort of volume.
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, really find that way stupid as well; wasn't very excited about steam coming to linux in the first place, but maybe someday SteamOS consoles will be popular, like OUYA was somewhat expected, but until then, steam is an extra layer, just to get more ads and see a ton of "your friend is not playing dota2"
DreadKnight: got a medium range tablet and it's still crappy thing compared to a pc
mircea_popescu: i really don't like these walled garden bullshits.
DreadKnight: s/not/now*
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm not quite as radical as pankkake about it, but i defo don't like em.
DreadKnight: the web was supposed to be "the thing" imo, not packaged apps for more linux based distros each having their own store
pankkake: Steam seems popular with Windows users, it seems to be one of the less intrusive "stores"
pankkake: and IIRC not all games from Steam come with DRM
mircea_popescu: well for windows users rape in an alley is an improvement.
chetty: DreadKnight, to answer your earlier question, no I am not running gentoo
DreadKnight: chetty, oh, no +1 for being nerdy stat then xD
BingoBoingo: This thing with steam is you can sandbox it somewhere, as opposed to iOS
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight join #eulora
BingoBoingo: Windows steam runs fine on Linux
BingoBoingo: Linux steam runs fine on some linuxes
mircea_popescu: ahahah DreadKnight http://i3.minus.com/ibySTyaR5vkNgB.png that' slulz.y
pankkake: Steam is Linux's Bitpay
BingoBoingo: Steam's its own kind of evil, but...
ben_vulpes: to the dylan song, and re centos: "everything must run as root!"
BingoBoingo: Even the installer shouldn't run as root
BingoBoingo: dd instead
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, when my wordpress got hacked, I didn't get such a nice page left in place T_T
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00086612 = 3.6377 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://solforgegame.com/ << now they're just dead.
assbot: Database Error
mircea_popescu: that didn't look like a wp hack, incidentally. they lost root.
BingoBoingo: !up moiety
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/29H78RP << here's a lulzy example of the exploit failfully injected in the wild. from http://prezi.com/_x4ho5z02njk/untitled-prezi/
assbot: dpaste: 29H78RP
assbot: Untitled Prezi by Donovan Rosales on Prezi
moiety: sorry BB
mircea_popescu: basically computer hacking and viral/bacterial infection are by now so very similar...
assbot: IMSafer Angel Round
BingoBoingo: moiety: It happens
mircea_popescu: !up esrunuk
esrunuk: cheers
mircea_popescu: hey there.
[]bot: Bet created: "Crude Oil WTI over $110 this year" http://bitbet.us/bet/1015/
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 590.06, Best ask: 591.41, Bid-ask spread: 1.35000, Last trade: 590.04, 24 hour volume: 4967.44468410, 24 hour low: 583.93, 24 hour high: 595.0, 24 hour vwap: 0
[]bot: Bet created: "Dogecoin to keep sinking" http://bitbet.us/bet/1016/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00087061 = 24.5512 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: verification link no worky on bet doge drop
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 404777.01 in 45 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -41.10
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.01492 = 0.6117 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/1016/dogecoin-to-keep-sinking/ << seems bitbet mangles urls with <br /> stuff ?
assbot: BitBet - Dogecoin to keep sinking :: 0.08 B (80%) on Yes, 0.02 B (20%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 99`993 (100`000 to 1)
BingoBoingo: ;;seen dotcoin
gribble: dotcoin was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 weeks, 5 days, 18 hours, 18 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <dotcoin> if you see only 80k tomorrow on sale means 20k are sold you need a calculator for that
mircea_popescu: wow wait, the guy was here ?
mircea_popescu: how did i miss that.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell dotcoin No come lately here around, why?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's been a while
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11984 @ 0.00087233 = 10.454 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu seems people have trouble following instructions !
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00087233 = 16.6615 BTC [+]
assbot: Am about to go homeless, could use some help
assbot: dankcoin
mircea_popescu: probably, you blinked.
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu:DreadKnight do you get your gribble pms ? <-- oh actually no, got confused; I looked through the log
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.0149351 = 0.6123 BTC [+]
fluffypony: every time I try and have a rational discussion with Jimmothy I want to stab him in the face.
fluffypony: I give up
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Giving up restraint?
fluffypony: why he is such a stupid fuckface?
chetty: fluffypony, the world is full of em
pankkake: the thread lacks a funny factor
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: But if you stab Jimmothy in the face suddenly everyone will buy MPEx seats!
fluffypony: stupid fucker
fluffypony: "A seat would mean there are a limited amount and you can sell your own seat. On mpex you can buy a "seat" and sell unlimited seats to other naive investonomers."
DreadKnight was thinking about stabbing people in the face and smiling
pankkake: I read his last posts, just sad hardcore bagholding
fluffypony: by definition, unless MPEX drops it's 30 BTC fee it will become progressively more expensive
fluffypony: until it is so cost-prohibitive that basically nobody can afford one
fluffypony: so there you go, there's a limited amount
mike_c: who cares semantics? call it a membership.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.0149499 = 0.598 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: Jimbo cares
assbot: Coinpal.com Stocks - 18740 (worth 0.001 each) for 5BTC
chetty: folks enjoy arguing over anything but the substance of what is
assbot: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated]
pankkake: there's really nothing left to salvage
kakobrekla: >There are numerous reports saying bitbet scammed users.
kakobrekla: fuck you i report your report to reporter of the reporting reportuity
mod6: tell 'em!
kakobrekla: just did!
mod6: :D
pankkake: anyone active on https://www.bitcoinforum.com/ ? (and there's actually a coinbr subforum)
assbot: Bitcoin Forum - The Unofficial Bitcoin Forum
mircea_popescu: fluffypony> I give up << do you know the guy ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no, not apart from the occasional frustrating interaction on Bitcointalk
fluffypony: every time it makes me want to stab him a little more
mircea_popescu: he's been on this bash mpex for nonsensical reason for much too long by now.
mircea_popescu: there's no possibility of any sort of rational process involved, he's some guy who figures he's going to "do damage" to mpex by being stupid online.
mircea_popescu: not bothering to consider that if THAT'S how things worked it'd have been lights out a long time ago.
DreadKnight: haters gonna hate
mircea_popescu: to some degree he's educated tho, he displays about the same low level sophisms in general use by th population of online libtards
fluffypony: and hatters gonna hat
BigBitz: I'd love a new hat.
mircea_popescu: i could be ron paul for the same money.
BigBitz: fluffypony plz2bai new hat.
mircea_popescu: pankkake that is pretty sad.
mike_c: it doesn't seem he's just on a bash mpex kick. he bashes everything.
DreadKnight: he's probably poor and jelly
BigBitz: I am poor.
DreadKnight: and jelly?
mircea_popescu: mike_c ah ok. well i only see the occasional snippets people post @me once they're going all rage-y.
BigBitz: not jelly :D
BigBitz: Just poor.
mircea_popescu: BigBitz how can you be poor, you been mining for long enough
BigBitz: me?
BigBitz: you must be mistaking me, mircea_popescu.
DreadKnight: I am poor too, trying to not be jelly on simple games that made lots of money
BigBitz: I mined for about a month...
BigBitz: then sold my BFLs.
mircea_popescu: i missed that part.
BigBitz: but I didn't get into Bitcoin for some time. April 2013.
BigBitz: So I didn't amass much. Such a shame, really, I first 'found' Bitcoin in Summer 2009... Sigh... what could have been mircea_popescu :)
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, so if you still need freelancer or whatever, lol *cough*
DreadKnight: translator*
BigBitz: I could have been half as rich as you mircea_popescu ;)
mircea_popescu: or twice.
DreadKnight: people who don't have the rich mentality get back to being poor in no time
BigBitz: twice would have made me as rich \o/
BigBitz: DreadKnight it's a state of mind :)
BigBitz: It's OK; I can cope.
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight what, him ? but he don't speakz romanians.
DreadKnight: I used to think I need to know a lot of nerdy stuff and work hard to earn, then I started seeing people playing games and making way more with less work xD
mircea_popescu: <DreadKnight> I am poor too, trying to not be jelly on simple games that made lots of money << you are probably making the mistake of mentally restricting the universe to some sort of schoolyard definition of "merit"
mircea_popescu: that's not how things work.
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, meant me regarding translation :P
DreadKnight: but yeah, I'm still figuring out things regarding mentality
mircea_popescu: uh. im still trying to pin down exactly what it was you do. originally figured some coder guy, then you wanted to do 3d models, now you want to translate
mircea_popescu: you know you gotta pick something.
BigBitz: He's a 3D modelling coder.
BigBitz: Duh.
BigBitz: He can juggle as well...
DreadKnight: true, I spend a lot of time on computer usually, told you before, jack of all trades atm, hopefully will specialize and stick with one thing, but sounds boring
kakobrekla: translating the code into 3d.
mircea_popescu: lol meanies.
mircea_popescu: "Hi, my name is Sean Martin. I have been active on these forums for three years now. I am an aspiring guitarist that has an important message to share with the world and a unique style and huge potential to make it big." << dank is incredibly fixated on his guitar stuff.
BigBitz: 3D Coding. While rock climbing.
DreadKnight: haha; nah just computer stuff
kakobrekla: BigBitz ascii prolly didit.
mircea_popescu: 3d coding while climbing a 3d version of a mountain.
chetty: perfecto
BigBitz: Bang on mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: "My struggle is that due to my honesty and adamancy to share what I learned through my journeys, many have come to judge me rather than seek to understand me."
mircea_popescu: ahahaha wtf.
assbot: Guitar guy at the party - YouTube
DreadKnight: non-understood teenager
mircea_popescu: dem hippies need daily beatings.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14548 @ 0.00087607 = 12.7451 BTC [+]
chetty: <mircea_popescu> dem hippies need daily beatings.// are they worth the effort?
DreadKnight: that image goes to my "cute or funny" collection
mircea_popescu: chetty no. but they still have needs.
chetty: wes all got needs, pppfftt
DreadKnight: violence is the universal language :3
mircea_popescu: lol mike_c
mircea_popescu: can only imagine what tom green'd have done with that one
mike_c: likely more fingers in the ass.
mircea_popescu: deer lady fingers.
mircea_popescu: don't ask.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19347 @ 0.00087207 = 16.8719 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlaA0_z4Rgg look at this. the shit's so sad, by now people with minimally adequate social skills are counted to have a profession out of it.
assbot: Mike Birbiglia: What I Should Have Said, Was Nothing - YouTube
mircea_popescu: "i'm one of the like 50k us people that can tell a story. i got my own website and seminars."
assbot: people - YouTube
DreadKnight: "This video is not available in your country." sigh right
DreadKnight: not the one you linked, kakobrekla
kakobrekla: does mine work?
DreadKnight: I can see any vid, but hate when there are internet restrictions full of bs
DreadKnight: it's like youtube is saying "ew, you are in THAT country, ew, gtfo" xD
DreadKnight: racist youtube
kakobrekla: put on 3d coding glasses, maybe those can translate.
DreadKnight: make sure you go patent that, quick
mircea_popescu: "I am currently living in a hotel room day to day and only have a couple days left before I will be homeless. This is bad because once I am without a place to live, it will only become harder to find one."
mircea_popescu: omfg dank finally croaking into the abyss ? splendid.
mircea_popescu: "I plan on recording a music video with a girl which will help me gain validity and virality."
DreadKnight: I don't get people living in hotels; know a dude around here that does that and works at a supermarket, the math is not right
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight banks won't lend to peons. owners won't rent to deadbeats. sink low enough, it's either a cheap motel or the park.
DreadKnight: at least cardboards are free
DreadKnight: boxes*
DreadKnight: yeah, you're probably right, the guy is pretty deadbeat mircea_popescu
DreadKnight: know a 40 year old something that was supposed to be making a MMO, spend about 10 years with 4 pc's in his face while having no real skill, trying to make others to work on his MMORPG for a share of the profits xD finally gave up and now making a trading card game using Unity3d
DreadKnight: he's pretty much only eating ramen
DreadKnight: made like a few crowd funding campaigns, all failed; raised 300 bucks tops which he spend on a crappy engine license and a mocap animation pack (while not having proper characters)
mircea_popescu: "the traditional route : years of rejection and failure untill she's finally spit out the bottom of the porn industry"
DreadKnight: the dude's not even porn star material
DreadKnight: now he talks money making strategies regarding his TCG while I haven't even seen a single screenie
DreadKnight: "beta next month, beta next month"
mircea_popescu: he should upgrade to two weeks
mircea_popescu: !up [1]bonusdz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00087332 = 25.7629 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00086525 / 0.00088746 / 0.00091599 (1003453 shares, 890.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00081991 / 0.00087484 / 0.00094217 (3673682 shares, 3,213.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00074501 / 0.00082959 / 0.00094217 (9715212 shares, 8,059.67 BTC)
assbot: 403 Forbidden
jborkl: lol
assbot: 403 Forbidden
jborkl: the site is just refusing gribble
jborkl: or assbot
jborkl: I have spent more time trying eep people out than getting people in
jborkl: eep
jborkl: keep - screw it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 81 @ 0.01474 = 1.1939 BTC [-]
assbot: Doug Stanhope - No Refunds - YouTube
jborkl: well, this will spawn a whole new wave of hacking attempts
jborkl: but w/e, I have it all replicated anyway so its all good
BigBitz: Doug Stanhope +++
mircea_popescu: i wonder if he does private shows.
mike_c: he's a comic. they do anything for money.
mircea_popescu: isn't it comedian ?
mircea_popescu: comic's the booklet neh ?
chetty: squishy english
mike_c: comic = comedian
mircea_popescu: well lessee if he does bitcoin conference then.,
jborkl: hopefully he does not make fun up people patting each other on the back and jerking each other off in the sauna
jborkl: otherwise he will only hear crickets
mircea_popescu: "There's a kind of Olympic torch of extreme American comedy, which passed from Lenny Bruce, through Richard Pryor and Sam Kinison... to the late Bill Hicks. Stanhope is the latest, and equally brilliant, bearer."
mircea_popescu: that's mabe a little thick
mircea_popescu: jborkl how do you figure ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00087332 = 3.6679 BTC [+]
xanthyos: not a fan of kinison. i think he's hacky
mircea_popescu: ""Ask anyone whose opinion matters, and they'll tell you Doug Stanhope is one of the top ten stand-ups in the world today. " dude there must be something to this seeing how i just randomly saw ten minutes of his act half hour ago and im already doing bookings.
jborkl: most of the conference would leave, unless they don't know
BigBitz: He's funny.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30132 @ 0.00087464 = 26.3547 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: jborkl last time we made fun of them, what'd change.
xanthyos: bill hicks isn't dead. he's alex jones now.
jborkl: huh, good point
chetty: what happened to Carlin in that list of comics?
assbot: Bitcoin Asset Protection Law
jborkl: Maybe they like getting laughed at while jerking off other dudes in the sauna, I never thought of it that way. MP you are always insightful
mircea_popescu: jborkl you're probably confusing the bitcoin conference with whatever random derpage nobodies meeting in a parking lot.
mircea_popescu: $conference
empyex: mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 8 months and 9 days. Estimated cost today: 2.22083887 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
assbot: The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 45408 @ 0.00004703 = 2.1355 BTC [-] {14}
jborkl: Now that sounds like a good time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00087573 = 10.8153 BTC [+]
assbot: SuicideGirls Accepts Bitcoin - Coin Fire
mircea_popescu: suicide girls still exists ?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13255 @ 0.00087386 = 11.583 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: If CNN says Hong Kong’s in Brazil, it must be so! | Cable network in yet another ridiculous on-air flub | Media Equalizer
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, ofc, sg is pretty hot even on fb
mircea_popescu: that thing was hot back when digg owned reddit.
DreadKnight: anyway, too many girls become sg nowadays...
DreadKnight: it's a bit diluted
DreadKnight: used to like 9 out of 10 models, now it's more like 1 out of 10
DreadKnight: maybe I'm growing too old for sg D:
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00087573 = 6.2177 BTC [+]
DreadKnight: or all them scanks wanna be models and make money just because
decimation: lol from your 'bitcoin lawyer' link: "Practically, there is no public record of Bitcoin purchases. Bitcoin wallets are similarly anonymous as Bitcoin balances and transactions are identified only by a digital code with no link to person or place."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00087573 = 6.6555 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: he is on to blood. any creditor can hide any assets in the chain.
decimation: I wonder how many drug lord clients he has
mircea_popescu: in florida ?
decimation: heh yeah
decimation: 'the street' will have its own uses for bitcoin, once the drug lords figure out how easy it is to move across borders...
DreadKnight: decimation, bitcoin was mentioned like 3 times in a futuristic tv-show called "Almost Human", key words being "black market" and "untraceable"
DreadKnight: (a few months ago)
decimation: yeah, but the drug-lords listen to their drug-lord lawyers, not american tv
decimation: at least the smart ones do
decimation: this particular lawyer has 'discovered' a new market for his clients
mircea_popescu: it's going to lead to a splendid conundrum down the road, because from the pov of bankruptcy/anti-asset protection legal practice, the preferred avenue would be to declar bitcoin wiorthless
mircea_popescu: and then unwind any asset-protective trade as "without consideration"
mircea_popescu: and just steal the buyer's thing to give it to the creditor.
mircea_popescu: however, this is exactly contrary to how the whole rest of the bureaucracy would like to treat it.
mircea_popescu: but that is a pike to drive in the hydra's eye later on, let's not anticipate.
decimation: quite so, bitcoin will enable a whole cottage industry of tax-avoidance
decimation: in the us it's quite important for elderly to have no net worth on paper, so they qualify for free healthcare
mircea_popescu: that's a different story.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3959 @ 0.00087589 = 3.4676 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: what i'm talking about here is, every single college kid getting mailed those ccs ?
decimation: which isn't quite tax avoidance, but it's measurable asset avoidance
mircea_popescu: buying bitcoin and moving to mexico.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8091 @ 0.00087784 = 7.1026 BTC [+]
decimation: if your scenario happens (college kids leverage usd debt for bitcoin) that will be the way that the baby boomers lose their lock on elite wealth and power in the us
mircea_popescu: if the kids weren't stupid it'd be happening already.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the perfect tool for intergenerational warfare.
mircea_popescu: take the coinfire dood. he thinks he's too old to be arsed to learn gpg ? he thinks he's too mature to submit ?
mircea_popescu: open wide, here comes the rape train.
decimation: re: dynamic equilibrium of bitcoin: I'm pretty convinced that 99% of people born in the west (especially academic specialists) have no idea about 'money', 'currency' 'non-money commodities', whatever words you want to use to label it
mircea_popescu: or about anything else.
decimation: yeah it's pretty much the same way that people think that ssl websites are the best practice in 'secure' data transfer
mircea_popescu: battery chickens have no idea 'bout pine needles. big whoop.
decimation: I also find it amusing that the most important thing that the bureaucrats & academics start derping about are definitions
mircea_popescu: it's the dubious blessing of being raised in a system, that with the safety this entails for as long as the system survives comes intermingled the complete cluelessness and inability to survive.
decimation: hell, no one younger than 50 in the US has tried to buy a house in the context of greater than 10% mortgage rates
decimation: if this whole winklevoss etf thing isn't a scam, bitcoin is probably going to trade 2-10x in dollars by next spring
decimation: it will be highly amusing to watch the anti-bitcoin derps on wallstreet to lose their shirts shorting bitcoin
mircea_popescu: they can't lose their shirts.
mircea_popescu: they got worthless money in infinite supply. as long as they follow the crowd they get to keep the shirts.
mircea_popescu: so recently some new guy was in here with his old idea rehashed and i pointed out to him it'll never work, and it only seems to work for now, because it's not working yet.
mircea_popescu: anyone recall particulars ?
jborkl: money in infinite supply is the us right now
jborkl: pricing is out of control
jborkl: a house for $400,000 6 years ago is easily $600,000
jborkl: maybe more
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00087562 = 25.4805 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: nah not that decimation
mircea_popescu: was some new guy sorta angling for his project w/e it was.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00087784 = 3.1602 BTC [+]
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 402578.85 in 33 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -41.42
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.09 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 4379.72 GH/s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 480 @ 0.00197998 = 0.9504 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Who is Charlie Crist? The answer is complicated | Tampa Bay Times
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.0008764 = 10.4292 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36495 @ 0.00087859 = 32.0641 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: What Is Bitco.in - The online Bitcoin school - Tilt
BingoBoingo: ^ lulzy
decimation: old news: http://preshing.com/20120208/a-look-back-at-single-threaded-cpu-performance/ << moore's law is dead, actual single-core performance doubles in 5-10 years at best
assbot: A Look Back at Single-Threaded CPU Performance
kakobrekla: !up fanquake
BingoBoingo: !up punkman
BingoBoingo: !up AlexWkz
BingoBoingo: Any Aussies? Canberra over Paramata in rugby seems like an incredibly likely outcome, right?
BingoBoingo: !up CheckDavid
BingoBoingo: !up praeconium
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9227 @ 0.00087892 = 8.1098 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: BingoBoingo, have not watched league since i was a kid, it's not as popular as it once was
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I see.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, do you follow it?
BingoBoingo: Passively. NRL produces a lot of value bets
BingoBoingo: I also like how the NRL has betting ticket prices on their front page
cazalla: i imagine it's more about the betting than the game nowadays, they've had sports bet owners masquerading as commentators in the past, i wouldn't even let my kid watch it if he was old enough to do so
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00087552 = 14.9714 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: !up gilgameshugga
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I see. Still a better situation than NFL commentators.
mircea_popescu: !up kdomanski
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00087383 = 2.2283 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00087907 = 8.5709 BTC [+]
cazalla: BingoBoingo, not really because the kids discuss the best odds instead of best players so they then think dad is making a wise choice when he bets the rent on a match because it's a lock, right?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Nah, you teach them the dangers of gambling, because of what idiots the commenters are.
assbot: Unlike Other Ice Cream Shops, A NYC Dairy Queen Refused To Write "Free Palestine!" On A Personalized Cake - ANIMAL
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12785 @ 0.00087228 = 11.1521 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up deizel
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 400732.72 in 31 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -41.68
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00087204 = 2.8341 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [WTS] LocalBitcoins Account: 10Mnths OLD/37Affiliates/27trades/100%/VERIFIED
BingoBoingo: !t m s.wol
assbot: [MPEX:S.WOL] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.000042 / 0.0000488 / 0.00008888 (25900 shares, 1.26 BTC)
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021697 B (Total: 474.46 B). Delta: -0.06 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00087374 = 3.9755 BTC [+]
decimation: re: laws: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/08/obama_executive_order_on_mandatory_arbitration_huge_news_for_workers_rights.html "he second part of the order is what Bland is so excited about. This provision says that companies with federal contracts worth more than $1 million can no longer force their employees out of court, and into arbitration, to settle accusations of workplace discrimination."
assbot: Obama executive order on mandatory arbitration: Huge news for workers’ rights.
decimation: there's this weird dynamic with leftists in the us - they hate the idea that courts treat corporations as people
mircea_popescu: decimation i have no idea what bs the "arbitration" thing is.
mircea_popescu: you can always sue. period.
mircea_popescu: that's the motherfucking point of a court system in the first place.
decimation: apparently there's this "private court" system called "arbitration"
decimation: where you go to a derp instead of a court to "decide" your case. It is standard procedure to agree to such a procedure in the "fine print" of most US contracts
mircea_popescu: not like you have to.
decimation: well, as you say, you can always sue, but the question is unsettled as far as I know: "The validity of arbitration clauses in the US is not a settled legal matter." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitration_in_the_United_States#Validity_of_arbitration_clauses
assbot: Arbitration in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: you can still sue, but the contract typically has language saying that you can't sue, so the courts decide whether the clause is valid
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6882 @ 0.0008765 = 6.0321 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: you don't have to sign a contract with an arbitration clause if you don't want to.
TheNewDeal: hash has gotta take a chill pill, got a few bitcents riding on this
mircea_popescu: and you can always trash it if it's one of those nonconsensual/foisted contracts
mircea_popescu: like the shit software producers throw on people
decimation: yes it's pretty much in that category
TheNewDeal: aapl says you can't use their software to develope nukes
TheNewDeal: what pretentious douchebagery
mircea_popescu: jesus so i'm just going to let these bitcoin-financials.com/net/org expire ? nobody wants em ?
mircea_popescu: talk about "valuable domain real estate" why don't you.
TheNewDeal: you own them?
decimation: domain squatting is hilarious
decimation: my understanding is that it is rare to get someone to pay real money for a domain
TheNewDeal: i'd consider purchasing one if you're just going to let it lapse
mircea_popescu: you can just have the lot. where am i pushing them ?
mircea_popescu: decimation myeah.
TheNewDeal: I dont know how to do this deal. The only time I've done a webpage is when my university hosted it
TheNewDeal: what do you mean by push?
decimation: typically you have to unlock the domain and then request a transfer to your registrar
TheNewDeal: whens the expiry?
decimation: Status: clientTransferProhibited
decimation: Updated Date: 18-oct-2013
decimation: Creation Date: 15-aug-2012
decimation: Expiration Date: 15-aug-2014
decimation: maybe you can interest nasdaq or the winklevii derps?
TheNewDeal: ill even put down a deposit on this
TheNewDeal: what's with the clientransferrohibited though?
TheNewDeal: exscuse my ignorance, but godaddy is a domain name registrar?
assbot: Whois-Suche | Domainverfgbarkeit Registrierungsinformationen
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16467 @ 0.00087843 = 14.4651 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: yes, amoung the services they offer is domain registration
TheNewDeal: says bitcoin-financials.com expires in Feb 2015, is that correct?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1047 @ 0.00193014 = 2.0209 BTC [+] {3}
decimation: I see the expirary date as listed above
kakobrekla: <decimation> my understanding is that it is rare to get someone to pay real money for a domain < not my problem if they dont accept my 13$ offer
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal well do you have a namecheap account ?
TheNewDeal: negatron
mircea_popescu: so make one
mircea_popescu: then tell me what it is
mircea_popescu: then i can push you teh domains and that';s that.
TheNewDeal: I'm an expert at signing up for shit...
decimation: kakbrekla: heh yeah I was just looking at domains, the whole thing feels like a scam, especially now that there are 158 tlds
mircea_popescu: and godaddy is an atrocious everything.
kakobrekla: decimation you do know there is autocomplete on irc?
kakobrekla: well in all the normal clients.
decimation: I'm using konversation, I haven't really taken the time to learn the keystrokes
kakobrekla: a ok wasnt sure
mircea_popescu: is konversation the kde thing ?
decimation: kakobrekla: yeah i guess tab does auto-complete, thanks for the tip :)
kakobrekla: jus trying to make it easier on you, my name is a real sausage
mircea_popescu: mansausage.
mircea_popescu: omfg "expirary date" is the cutest misspelling ever.
decimation: mircea_popescu: so I need to find how to put a spell check on my irc, stream-of-conscience spelling doesn't work for me
TheNewDeal: ahhh cmon it doesnt matter that much
kakobrekla: doez 2!
decimation: spelling is kind of a victorian obsession anyway
TheNewDeal: doesnt''''
decimation: I want to move to an emacs-based chat client but I need to configure a cloud-host like ben_vulpes
decimation: cmd: Linux
mircea_popescu: ok, next giving up btcscoop.org.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00087924 = 11.6939 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyone want it ?
mircea_popescu: there's gotta be some aspiring bitcoin journalist about.
TheNewDeal: hahaha
TheNewDeal: how many of these do you have?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00088079 = 18.4085 BTC [+] {2}
artifexd: Do you have any that don't start with btc/bit/coin/etc? You know, for the seo potential.
TheNewDeal: just opened another beer before I finished the prior one. Sign of a good night
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10966 @ 0.00088092 = 9.6602 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00087299 = 23.2215 BTC [-] {4}
decimation: ah, the issue was the lack of hunspell-en
decimation: artifexd why would bit*coin be bad for seo?
TheNewDeal: wasn't there a trilema about this
TheNewDeal: I think the gist was that most new search engines play off only the first few letters one types
TheNewDeal: so if my website is "atc.blahblahblah" I just have to be more popular than the websites that start with a***, at*, atc***
decimation: yeah someone needs to make a better google
assbot: Why everything you think you know about DNS is entirely wrong pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
TheNewDeal: the thing about google now is, I think it matters much less the first couple times you type something
TheNewDeal: after the first few times*
TheNewDeal: because they're all personalized
decimation: yeah personalizing everything probably foils much of the seo silliness
decimation: !up praeconium
decimation: !up The20YearIRCloud
decimation: !up thestringpuller
The20YearIRCloud: yay, i have a voice
The20YearIRCloud: Still waiting to hear about the next step from the lender
decimation: The20YearIRCloud: do you rent to section 8 vouchers?
The20YearIRCloud: Right now we have 1 sec8 tenant
mircea_popescu: artifexd well nothing tonight
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 25(Y):75(N) by weight. Total bet: 54.13365572 BTC. Current weight: 19,154.
decimation: it would be interesting to see the spread on a $1k usd bet ending 31 dec
decimation: The20YearIRCloud: I've traveled through rural Ohio, and I can't figure out where people make money. Do they mostly commute to the cities?
The20YearIRCloud: I'm really excited with where things are headed, our ROI internally is very solid, and leverage is only going to make it more pronounced. Lots of properties out there and our tenatnt pool continues to grow larger than we can supply.
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