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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 230 @ 0.00412694 = 0.9492 BTC [+] {5}
nubbins`: !up BayAreaCoins
BayAreaCoins: thanks, but just reading logs.
BingoBoingo: !up nam-shub
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c here's an idea : 1) if the bomb total pool goes over 1 btc, the first five digits past the decimal are used as a bomb location; and 2) if the bomb pool is over 5% of the total shares pool, the bomb is guaranteed to be big.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell the idea being that paid bombs will likely be a constant thing, with most games prolly over 90ish paid bombs, and both these will encourage a little bridging (ie, say it's .9 for the pool. now there's incentive for an extra .1). also #1 will give the losing side in the bomb pool tugwar a sneaky way to disrupt the winning bomb (by donating against their actual interest, to make it sum up to a different, per
mircea_popescu: haps harmless, location)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: writing fucking novels over here.
nubbins`: ;;later tell the
mircea_popescu: oh. damn. ty.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c the idea being that paid bombs will likely be a constant thing, with most games prolly over 90ish paid bombs, and both these will encourage a little bridging (ie, say it's .9 for the pool. now there's incentive for an extra .1). also #1 will give the losing side in the bomb pool tugwar a sneaky way to disrupt the winning bomb (by donating against their actual interest, to make it sum up to a differe
mircea_popescu: nt, perhaps harmless, location)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c different, perhaps harmless, location)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !up BayAreaCoins
BayAreaCoins: Thank you :)
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 310658 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1821 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 36 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18956358930.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.34479
BingoBoingo: !up copumpkin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 253 @ 0.00265001 = 0.6705 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.05 = 0.55 BTC [+] {3}
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mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 623.43, Best ask: 624.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.57000, Last trade: 624.0, 24 hour volume: 4196.18887227, 24 hour low: 623.43, 24 hour high: 638.73, 24 hour vwap: 632.167131018
benkay: aaarrrrrggggh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 858 @ 0.00265024 = 2.2739 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: Viata de care noi nu stim - YouTube
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform young and imo very promising actor kid
asciilifeform: 'encrypts every keystroke at the driver level' << what must one smoke, to conceive of this
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: isn't meth supposed to be 'performance enhancing' dope ?
asciilifeform: but kamikazes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The dose makes the poison.
mircea_popescu: that's amphetamine not metamphetamine
mircea_popescu: like you know, a joke's funny but a meta joke's just lame ? same thing.
asciilifeform: afaik all the extra methyl gives is fat-solubility
mircea_popescu: so it selects for landwhales is what you're telling me ?
BingoBoingo: methamphetamine has a greater propensity to promote psychosis at lower doses
asciilifeform: fat-solubility >> better penetration of brain-blood barrier
asciilifeform: + longer metabolic half-life
mircea_popescu: whatever theoretical chemistry may propose... meth ain't enhancing any performances.
mircea_popescu: unless one's performing as a meth head, i guess.
asciilifeform hasn't tried
asciilifeform: ;;google panzerschokolade
gribble: Obscene Desserts: On "Panzerschokolade" and other fun German ...: <http://obscenedesserts.blogspot.com/2013/05/on-panzerchokolade-and-other-fun-german.html>; Twitter / Search - #panzerschokolade: <https://twitter.com/hashtag/panzerschokolade>; panzerschokolade II - Jarmila Mitrikova: <http://jarmilamitrikova.com/panzerschokolade-II>
BingoBoingo: Well, with methamphetamine levo-dexo rotary becomes a concern as well. l-methamphetamine is a rather safe decongestant. D-methamphetamine though... is the one that makes the news
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: from the u.s. army medical journals, a hypothesis - it's actually the sleep deprivation that does you in
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's one of the more interesting ones
asciilifeform: (many of the maladies suffered by meth addicts - not only psychosis, but physiological - are also found in people who, for one reason or another - such as being under fire - cannot sleep)
BingoBoingo: Interesting testament to different effects of the rotary property check the active ingredient http://www.vicks.com/products/vapo-family/vapoinhaler-nasal-congestion-relief/#
asciilifeform: re: 'performance enhancing' dopes - important to remember that, even supposing performance enhanced, it matters who you were. e.g. paul erdos will crap out theorems, a hooligan will be able to break that many more windows, a lunatic will rant longer and more vigorously, etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i go for days without sleeping, often enough for not more than not feeling like it. this entire "sleep deprivation is bad for you" thing is bogus imo.
asciilifeform: days - who doesn't do this. try month.
mircea_popescu: who the hell maintains a month long meth trip ?
asciilifeform: immune system craps out
asciilifeform: after 3 weeks or so
mircea_popescu: myocard'll give out day 10
asciilifeform: a rat - dies
asciilifeform: a man - lives. but starts to rot, like a stereotypical 'zombie'
assbot: Drugs Forum - View Single Post - Effects - Meth in Vicks Vapour Inhaler?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i thought true aficionados will rotate it first
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That is actually a greater challenge than it sounds like.
BingoBoingo: Easier to start from scratch
asciilifeform: define 'scratch'
BingoBoingo: Precursors that lead to a largely dex- final product
asciilifeform: in the americas, those are largely unavailable to 'humans' - mafia, different story, buys by the drum
BingoBoingo: (ephedrine, pseudoephedrine tend to do this)
BingoBoingo: other precursors tend to produce racemic product
asciilifeform: if i recall these were banned ?
BingoBoingo: It's a pain in the ass to get them, but still available over the counter
asciilifeform: where i live, one can buy pseudoephedrine against running nose, but only in miniscule amounts and after signing a declaration of non-terrorism, with your driver's license entered in db
assbot: Three arrested after liquid meth is found inside car in Metro East | KMOV.com St. Louis
Duffer1: ;tslb
Duffer1: what's the command?
BingoBoingo: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 54 minutes and 53 seconds
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: clearly these folks had no problems sourcing precursors.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Costs too much for junkies to make their own, so it gets shipped from god knows where in the most efficient means possible
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in ussr, meth was 'invented' in the mid '80s. but all the aficionados made their own, without exception. there was no 'market' in the usual sense.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they would forge prescriptions for ephedrine (used in that period to treat asthmatics) and go from that.
BingoBoingo: They used to make their own here, but now for all I know Johnson and Johnson produces it.
asciilifeform: the necessary reagents were readily available, because amateur chemistry was not illegal in ussr.
asciilifeform: and people actually went to school, and occasionally learned things.
asciilifeform: somewhere it is produced. i recently visited a shop that sold surplus safes, of various sizes. some were from pharmacies, and had storage manifests glued on. included meth.
BingoBoingo: Well, the trade name is Desoxyn
BingoBoingo: ;;google desoxyn
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
asciilifeform: for what it is prescribed - i've not the faintest idea.
asciilifeform: perhaps african sleeping sickness ?
BingoBoingo: Typically ADHD in severe cases
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform doesn't help that.
BingoBoingo: Also for being the size of a whale
thestringpuller: Damn the south is so fucking miserable in summer.
thestringpuller: fuckin' 80 and humid out there
thestringpuller: how da fuck a nigga supposed to sleep in dis shit
mircea_popescu: i don't remember when i hated a film this much last.
mircea_popescu: holy shit that was objectionable.
gribble: Time since last block: 1 hour, 13 minutes, and 45 seconds
kyuupichan: Miners saying "fuck this; it's too hot in here"
mircea_popescu: heh i wonder.
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 310662 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1817 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 15 hours, 32 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
kyuupichan: gribble gave up too
BingoBoingo: longblock broke it?
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 278 Last Price: 221 24h-Vol: 21k High: 224 Low: 221 VWAP: 223
atcbot: 45k@282 722@279 30k@278 | 250k@210 45k@201 117k@200
kyuupichan: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 6 minutes and 0 seconds
mircea_popescu: BITCOIN'S SILVER!!1
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 310662 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1817 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 15 hours, 32 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18207183501.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.02337
BingoBoingo: Altcoin, the Silica to Bitcoin's Plutionium
mircea_popescu: o look, a block!
BingoBoingo: !up shandid
BingoBoingo: !t h am1
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.18514448 / 0.18867495 / 0.20000000 (13 shares, 2.45277435 BTC), 7D: 0.18100000 / 0.19598774 / 0.20500000 (223 shares, 43.70526543 BTC), 30D: 0.18010000 / 0.20234942 / 0.25983989 (2614 shares, 528.94138071 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 29 @ 0.02890175 = 0.8382 BTC [-]
assbot: A Hacker Artist Sent the NSA an Encrypted, Theoretically Uncrackable Mixtape | Motherboard
fluffypony: this shit is hilarious
assbot: MaidSafe CEO David Irvine Talks Nature, Ants and Decentralization
ThickAsThieves: mpex is still ded?
jurov: yes
jurov: and the 6th slide is fatally wrong
jurov: it should say "and then the revolution eats you"
jurov: heh... remembered the 5 stages of planning:
jurov: 1. Before-project enthusiasm
jurov: 2. Sobering in the process of realization
jurov: 3. Searching whom to blame
jurov: 4. Punishment of the innocent
jurov: 5. Rewarding of nonparticipants
jurov: any worthy revolution follows this, too
assbot: Bitcoin News Sites & Dishonesty Medium
fluffypony: Tom is powering
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 35 @ 0.02890175 = 1.0116 BTC [-]
artifexd: ;;later tell mircea_popescu In the sentence containing footnote iii of your Danika post, did you mean "existing" instead of "exiting"?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
punkman: from the lolfoundation dept.
jurov: ;;seen namworld
gribble: namworld was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 15 hours, 7 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <Namworld> I don't have any relatives buying, so it's always strangers
fluffypony: ;;seen naphex
gribble: naphex was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 17 hours, 34 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <Naphex> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ttq9oOvks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 217 @ 0.01271382 = 2.7589 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 350 @ 0.00272998 = 0.9555 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 45 @ 0.01208893 = 0.544 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 48 @ 0.01662133 = 0.7978 BTC [+] {9}
nanotube: later tell mircea_popescu no need to pay for google translate, there are other free translate api alternatives. if you think there's a significant need for irc-translate, i could throw something together. just didn't figure it was all that useful.
nanotube: ;;later tell mircea_popescu no need to pay for google translate, there are other free translate api alternatives. if you think there's a significant need for irc-translate, i could throw something together. just didn't figure it was all that useful.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
rithm: nanotube he stalks the channel logs
rithm: you could say "mp is dumb"
rithm: and you'll get a response most likely
nanotube: heh well, can't hurt to later tell :P
thestringpuller: nanotube is the ultimate lurker
thestringpuller: gangsta shit
jurov: lol
jurov: no news from mpex?
jurov: slavegirls still digging moats etc?
thestringpuller: lol @ jurov
ThickAsThieves: mpex was extradited
assbot: France to mandate identity verification for bitcoin account holders
ThickAsThieves: Thomas France, founder of Maison du Bitcoin, told the Wall Street Journal that he supports the new legal framework because it further legitimizes virtual currencies and that cryptocurrency anonymity is just “a myth.”
ThickAsThieves: !up KRS-1
KRS-1: ;;seen vexual
gribble: vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, 33 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <Vexual> i ordered braised rabbit
thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves LOL. Extradition from Argentina?!?
ThickAsThieves: !up KRS-1
mircea_popescu: nanotube well yeah, cause i'm multilingual and other people in here are and we end up running into translation things at least weekly.
assbot: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Wealth Gap (HBO) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: all these people and their weird equalitarian ideas.
fluffypony: that segment is brilliant
nubbins`: imagine
nubbins`: fluffypony could finally go back to speaking xhosa
mircea_popescu: somehow i'm the only one vaguely offended by the fact that "humorous" talking head is "explaining to the masses" what "the president said" ?
fluffypony: nubbins`: lol
mircea_popescu: what is this, leninism ?
asciilifeform: ;;google start control talking pet
gribble: Star Control II - Ultronomicon: <http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/Star_Control_II>; Walkthrough - Ultronomicon: <http://wiki.uqm.stack.nl/Walkthrough>; List of Star Control races - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Control_races>
mircea_popescu: fluffypony hmm, i kiled it 10 seconds in. too soon ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yes definitely
fluffypony: he sits in front of an audience of Americans and points out how retarded their leadership is
mircea_popescu: sits in front of an audience of Americans and points out how retarded their leadership is for not being left enough.
nubbins`: 2:10 "hashtag class warfare"
mircea_popescu: someone needs to explain to me sometime why "too much inequality can be very dangerous". seems that TOO MUCH is perfectly fine, a little is fucking dangerous if the idiots now have the means to argue the point,
mircea_popescu: and a shitton of it is just toxic, which is where we are now.
mircea_popescu: not in any sense dangerous, but just slowly asphyxiating everything to the point the whole society has to be destroyed by a bunchy of barbarians so the five surviving women can start over,
mircea_popescu: in between buttrapes.
mircea_popescu: artifexd yes ty.
nubbins`: nation of haves and will-haves
mircea_popescu: moar like might-haves, could-haves, should-haves and will-haves
asciilifeform: nubbins`: have-nots and will-nots
nubbins`: ;;ud willnot
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Willnot | A little round ball of shit (and/or bumwad) stuck in the hair of the crack of your ass and WILLNOT come out.
mircea_popescu: isn't that a dingleberry ?
asciilifeform: yeah same thought
asciilifeform graduate of alt.tasteless
nubbins`: i thought a willnot was when you had a bit of poop that wouldn't come out
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i find your proposition that dingleberries are tasteless an exercise in sheer nonsense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: alt.tasteless was this thing. where the famous 'spittoon' story was posted, etc. it was glorious.
mircea_popescu: i was just trying to do a... pun i guess
nubbins`: yeah
asciilifeform: there were, of course, other places to learn english.
nubbins`: dingleberries have the richest taste
thestringpuller: the dingleberries taste like snozberries
mircea_popescu: which are those
rithm: ooooh can we get an !esperanto command
rithm: or !lojban
asciilifeform: !tokipona
mircea_popescu: rithm it'll attract the taakis
asciilifeform: (smallest vaguely-usable conlang i've seen.)
rithm: 3 excellent first choices
assbot: The Filthiest Joke Ever Hidden in a Children's Movie | Cracked.com
assbot: 9 Toys That Prepare Children for a Life of Menial Labor | Cracked.com
mircea_popescu: o may fucking gawd. just thefucking terminology... 20% of the ~available income~ ? dude... it's not "the available income".
asciilifeform: ^ linked from above
mircea_popescu: 1% of america MADE AVAILABLE 20% of the income in this country.
nubbins`: snozzberries article is such a stretch that it may snap
rithm: i'll never eat another snozzberry
nubbins`: but will you eat any more dicks
mircea_popescu: wow nubbins`. i kinda given up on cracked for this exact reason, i just had no idea how to express it before.
rithm: wait....
rithm: is cracked one of those sites like the onion
nubbins`: it's basically an entire website dedicated to the type of shit in /r/mildlyinteresting
rithm: pretend i don't get out on the internet much
nubbins`: but with more lists
rithm: it's not complete satire, though
mircea_popescu: cracked is mostly kids who figure they're not realy waitresses, but really writers, giving it a crack.
mircea_popescu: except it's mostly boys.
rithm: riiiight but it's mildly factual
rithm: or is it a complete farce
mircea_popescu: goes about as well as you'd expect the National Waiters' Poetry Club to go.
rithm: is my question
nubbins`: generally the lists have arbitrary numbers of items in them, because the "people" who "write" them don't have any real information to convey
mircea_popescu: nubbins` a crackwitter! all lists 14 items.
rithm: sometimes i can't tell anymore between a farce site and a real site
mircea_popescu: rithm it' on the internet dood. what factual.
nubbins`: so they'll just say oh hey this simpsons episode has a blue hat, i think there were three or four others with blue hats
nubbins`: 5 simpsons episodes that show you how cool blue hats are
rithm: ok
nubbins`: share on facebook
rithm: i did on my wife page
rithm: she loves that retarded movie
rithm: i never liked it or watched it as a kid
mircea_popescu: i can't fucking believe there actually exists a /r/mildlyinteresting
mircea_popescu: i thought it was a joke.
nubbins`: and it's exactly what it says on the label
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 248 @ 0.00278991 = 0.6919 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: do the mods ban you if you're violently interesting ?
mircea_popescu: "this r is not for you, son"
artifexd: Have you seen /r/notinteresting ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79153408 BTC to 12`352 shares, 14504 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: i'm really very underexposed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 23.98874968 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2086 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: jurov: and the 6th slide is fatally wrong << it is fatally wrong
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform never played that one.
danielpbarron: so someone from Bitcoin magazine gave me his business card at porcfest and told me they might publish an article if I write one for them; should I even bother, and what should it be about?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron do you have a job ?
kakobrekla: about how bitcoin magazine sucks?
mod6: ^ and how b-a is where it's really @
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, not at the moment
danielpbarron works seasonally
mircea_popescu: are you looking for one in the field of trade rags ?
danielpbarron: not particularly
mircea_popescu: then you probably shouldn't.
danielpbarron: I'm guessing that any article worth reading wouldn't get accepted by their staff
mircea_popescu: if you have something you want published, either work with someone who already has a blog, and do a guest
mircea_popescu: or make your own blog.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure by now pankkake's rss reader has more readership than the bitcoin magazine anyway.
danielpbarron: yeah, I got they feeling Bitcoin magazine is like all those podcasts out there; they want the listeners to give them free content for them to advertize over
mircea_popescu: well yes.
danielpbarron: I was talking to the guy about how none of the popular Bitcoin news sources focus on real security
danielpbarron: he was one of those "wow 2.0 !! decentralize everything" types
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many great new altcoins were thought up at porcupine
danielpbarron wouldn't know as he avoided most of the actual events
danielpbarron: I ran into someone who was already familiar with my MEAT asset on counterparty; that was pretty funny
mircea_popescu: what was that ?
danielpbarron: it's an asset backed by the in-game currency of http://kingdomofloathing.com/
assbot: The Kingdom of Loathing
danielpbarron: the only asset on counterparty with a realistic market cap
danielpbarron: unless you think the let's talk Bitcoin network is actually worth 250 BTC
mircea_popescu: isk and rift plat are backed by bitcoinz, so why not this other thing.
mircea_popescu: are you involved with it ?
danielpbarron: with what? isk/rift? i don't know what those are
mircea_popescu: no with this thing
mircea_popescu: A Very Special Message from Jick:
mircea_popescu: As the number of KoL players increases, so does the cost of hosting. I very much want to keep the game free, so please consider supporting the development and maintenance of the Kingdom
danielpbarron: oh, I used to play it years ago
mircea_popescu: http://store.asymmetric.net/ << lol ius that the team ?
assbot: The Store of Loathing
danielpbarron: it's a pretty annoying community that plays; the only reason I played for as long as I did was because the economy was pretty fun
mircea_popescu: ow shit look at this, they're pretty developped actually huh. danielpbarron do you know any of the guys ? like this jick ?
mircea_popescu: teh splendor of this chan omg, ask and thou shalt receive. got the guy's email, all happy now.
danielpbarron: I don't like Jick but he's obviously very good at what he does; that game is over 11 years old now and he makes a living off of it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 736 @ 0.0028 = 2.0608 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !up RetroUpriser
RetroUpriser: gee, thanks
mircea_popescu: RetroUpriser nice name. what brings you over ?
RetroUpriser: Danielpbarron said he was chatting over here, figured i'd stop by. Its from a website i used to frquent as a kid
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1494 @ 0.00275619 = 4.1177 BTC [-] {7}
RetroUpriser: and apparently he only wants to embarrass himself
RetroUpriser: [12:41] <@danielpbarron> please don't embarrass me
fluffypony: hah hah
fluffypony: tell us all his embarrassing stories
mircea_popescu: RetroUpriser he's referring to the fact that many people here are assholes, and will take poorly to cluelessness.
RetroUpriser: I understand, it was a joke
danielpbarron: I know RetroUpriser face-to-face; lives nearby
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.1851796 = 7.4072 BTC [-] {9}
mod6: I bet I haven't played KoL since like 2003.
mircea_popescu: mod6 didja like it ?
danielpbarron: heh, your account is more oldschool than mine :/
mircea_popescu: im contemplating sponsoring it
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i think he also has kids your age.
mircea_popescu: !up PantyHotOffThePr
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr what, seriously ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, was fun for a while. my old char was a "sauceror" haha
danielpbarron is a pastamancer
mircea_popescu: is this like progress quest except online ?
danielpbarron: I'm not sure what to compare it to; it's a turn based RPG.
BingoBoingo: ^ this
danielpbarron: you level up and collect items and all that stuff
ThickAsThieves: Saucerer, awesome
danielpbarron: and there is a huge economy of virtual items that you can buy and sell in the "Mall"
mod6: I sold mixed drinks in my store.
punkman: oh look they kickstarted another Tex Murphy game, http://www.texmurphy.com/
mircea_popescu: is this the guy that failed horribly a year or so ago ?
punkman: I wonder why the live-footage game genre kinda disappeared after it actually became affordable
mircea_popescu: i think thats an answer-containing question.
mircea_popescu: next up, "why do people stop fucking women after marrying them"
punkman: they are already releasing new games in "episodes", add some live actors in the mix, sounds like a goldmine
BingoBoingo: !up the20year
the20year: nifty
BingoBoingo: !up jMyles
BingoBoingo: !up Sebastan
BingoBoingo: !up PantyHotOffThePr
PantyHotOffThePr: Cool beans, I was having trouble accessing this before. My screen froze up
the20year: everyone is getting voiced today it seems
benkay: wow the20year how's it going?
the20year: Good, july ended well for us
benkay: what's your NAV at this point?
the20year: Well, in the sense we collected 100% of rents by 5th of month (Which is good for the holiday being the 4th).
the20year: Right around $650k
the20year: So a little more than 1kbtc
benkay: what was the sum of your rounds in btc?
the20year: I'd have to dig up the BF round numbers since i can't remember them offhand, but havelock was around 525btc
the20year: give me a sec and i'll find that exact #
benkay: ;;calc 686/0.0045
gribble: 152444.444444
benkay: ;;calc 686.28/0.0045
gribble: 152506.666667
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 621.0, Best ask: 621.53, Bid-ask spread: 0.53000, Last trade: 622.73, 24 hour volume: 3349.68478218, 24 hour low: 617.7, 24 hour high: 632.56, 24 hour vwap: 625.607716087
the20year: Eh, right around 610btc
the20year: 1st round was around 76,000 shares @ .0055 , second was 26,000 @ .0075
benkay: ;;calc 650000/620
gribble: 1048.38709677
benkay: ;;calc 10048.38709677/152506.666667
gribble: 0.0658881825718
benkay: you're telling me that RENT is trading at less than a tenth of NAV?
benkay: am i doing that correctly?
mike_c: benkay: you stuck an extra 0 in there
mike_c: ;;calc 1048/152506
gribble: 0.00687186077925
the20year: NAV is around .0065/share, current price is .0040-.0045
benkay: hm
benkay: i wonder what the discount's due to: inevitable price increases or trading on havelock?
BingoBoingo: !up shandid
BingoBoingo: !up jMyles
nubbins`: speaking of havelock,
the20year: Several guys going around generating bad press on us and havelock as a whole
ThickAsThieves: invetsor ignorance
nubbins`: !t h hif
assbot: [HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00009486 / 0.00010389 / 0.00010750 (114 shares, 0.01184358 BTC), 7D: 0.00008000 / 0.00010042 / 0.00012486 (9595 shares, 0.96355370 BTC), 30D: 0.00007997 / 0.00010744 / 0.00017583 (19536 shares, 2.09890794 BTC)
the20year: all HL assets are looking terrible right no
the20year: *now
benkay: mike_c: good spot, tv.
BingoBoingo: the20year: Well maybe it's people shorting Lebron?
benkay: ty*
the20year: Possibly
ThickAsThieves: i'm surprised Havelock still has the volume it does
the20year: Too bad we're not in cleveland, our NAV would have went up 300% overnight due to lebron
the20year: I kind of am too
the20year: although someone had a pretty large share buy yesterday
the20year: for us
BingoBoingo: Or people doubt the ability of Ohio to endure into the future without setting it's water on fire again
the20year: hey now, we're like 60 years now without our rivers being on fire
nubbins`: not bad
the20year: One of the rivers (The Scioto) that goes through our county was/is actually one of the cleanest rivers east of the mississippi, it's actually rated high enough to drink from
mircea_popescu: o look, the20year
mircea_popescu: how's biz ?
the20year: Good overall, 9/12 units are rehabbed and rented (cashflowing too).
mircea_popescu: !up PantyHotOffThePr
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr hello ?
nubbins`: so i was out postering yesterday. i see these digitally-printed posters for the folk festival, all the toner is flaked and peeling off, absolute shit prints
PantyHotOffThePr: Oh sorry, was lurkin then looked at another tab. What up?
nubbins`: i decide to take a photo and share it via pink eye
nubbins`: "hey, see how shitty digital prints can get? try waterproof pink eye posters"
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr a nm, just keeping an eye for the people trying to sell me their tit pics.
nubbins`: 12 hours later, lady from the folk festival emails asking for a quote ;(
mircea_popescu: the20year hey, do you have a bitcoin education tenant program ?
PantyHotOffThePr: Well that would be me as well, I just figured I'd eyeball a bit first. Seemed there was a discussion going on and I didn't want to be the asshole that just jumps in like "Yo, tit pic sale?"
mircea_popescu: that's uncharacteristically considerate.
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/27SRR1N.txt )
nubbins`: the "yo" is a reasonably enough segue
nubbins`: *reasonable
mircea_popescu: i done it.
the20year: Not yet, but we're planning on it, the big thing to get people into BTC will be our investor relation system that's coming up
PantyHotOffThePr: I'm guessing now's a good a time as any though huh? If you don't mind me asking, why start this up?
nubbins`: !up miaoux
mircea_popescu: can be something as simple as a "Here's what Bitcoin is" leaflet left in the units.
nubbins`: salut m. chat
miaoux: salut ;)
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr well this has actualy been discussed, in the logs. let's see here.
benkay: !s cryptsy security
benkay: !s cryptsy
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
ThickAsThieves: mp likes to make it hard to understand things, luckily he also likes explaining them
ThickAsThieves: TLDR, sex sells
mircea_popescu: i'm one of those "mindfucks are the best fucks" sort of types.
PantyHotOffThePr: Got it, got it. Sounds cool enough. I had gotten a message via reddit and figured 'd come check it out
the20year: mircea_popescu: the plan now is to offer 5% off their rent if they pay in BTC
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
the20year: but part of doing that is doing a online billpay portal on our website and right now we hardly spend anything on our website because 100% of our action is on facebook right now
mircea_popescu: the20year that's nice for sure. but seems these are different demos
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr ok, so got a link to your prev work ?
nubbins`: +1, facebook for business
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: parody article << 'rather than dayjobs you talk about people needing to be “hungry and desperate” and stuff like that connotes to me this very strong emotional' << as if this had to go from emotion. 'people need to be hungry and desperate' is as much a technical statement as 'million volt bus bars must be spaced at least one metre apart.'
assbot: overview for PantyHotOffThePress
PantyHotOffThePr: Got into this relatively recently
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: (well, more like 3 metre.)
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr ok, put 477ad8a6 on your tits, take a pic. here's a good example for you : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2014#744684
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, to you and me, yes.
mircea_popescu: !up BayAreaCoins
mircea_popescu: let's see if something can be worked out here. nubbins` would you design a great A4 "what is bitcoin" poster ? and if he does, the20year would you put one in every unit ?
mircea_popescu: !up the20year
nubbins`: i sure could
mircea_popescu: !up Xplosionist
mircea_popescu: shit look at that mike_c, over 30 weekly game.
Xplosionist: ;;gpg auth Xplosionist
gribble: Request successful for user Xplosionist, hostmask Xplosionist!~cross@65.207.51.211. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:b09e590318687c8e98cde7988e23840d466957d9ff3cb9e7f1439920
mircea_popescu: you know whe have ;;eauth now. works easier.
nubbins`: we also have /msg gribble
mike_c: nice, war is heating up.
nubbins`: !up haos
mircea_popescu: mike_c did you get my gribble novel ?
Xplosionist: ;;gpg eauth Xplosionist
gribble: Request successful for user Xplosionist, hostmask Xplosionist!~cross@65.207.51.211. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F1410E75EFA0D834
asciilifeform: ;;rate Xplosionist 1 actual human, meatspace colleague
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
Xplosionist: Yeah, I'm still learning. :-)
mircea_popescu: that url is also fixed, being your key. you'll just have to ping gribble to refresh it any time prior to use.
asciilifeform: ;;rate Xplosionist 1 actual human, meatspace colleague
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Xplosionist has been recorded.
the20year: mircea_popescu: Yeah, i'll do it
mircea_popescu: it's a deal then.
the20year: This Christmas though I plan on giving every unit bitcoin
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what do you figure, best to what, laminate them ?
Xplosionist: k, then I have to paste the results into some url, rather than to gribble. Bleah. k.
mircea_popescu: Xplosionist wait what ?
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: try self-voicing now
nubbins`: if you're leaving them in rental units, they're essentially disposable. straight in the trash on day one. not much use laminating
Xplosionist: I'm reading http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication. There are a few examples, and it's hard to follow, but I rememebr last week following the one that said to paste the response to some site (pastebin or the like) and use said url to verify.
assbot: wiki.bitcoin-otc.com | 404 - Page Cannot Be Found
mircea_popescu: maybe be a total asshole and give them btc for xmas IF THEY SHOW YOU THE POSTER
mircea_popescu: but not tell them anythng about it :D
mircea_popescu: nubbins` anyway, how much to design, print a batch of say 50 and ship it ?
PantyHotOffThePr: sorry it took so long
mircea_popescu: i guess your pouty mouth is quite distinctive enough huh. aite.
mircea_popescu: address ?
mike_c: yeah, i got your gribble. it's an interesting idea, I'll think through it.
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: simple: first, ';;gpg eauth yourname' - then, 'wget -q -O - http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/YOURKEYID | gpg -q --output - --decrypt' and paste result into ';;eauth resultgoeshere' (msg to gribble)
assbot: 404 Not Found
PantyHotOffThePr: 1JCMf3CefpsJZc7YUk3gr2t2N1HCUmTSA6
asciilifeform: *everify (for last one)
FabianB: $mpexlag
empyex: FabianB: Hmm.. error.
nubbins`: digital prints or silkscreen? design part of it comes down to how nice you want 'em to look
mircea_popescu: FabianB it's being tested since last night. hopefully all is well.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` well you know, tis for teh republic.
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: the url contains just a random turd, encrypted to your pgp key. gribble wants the value of the turd, when it gets it - you're authed.
Xplosionist: No go, gribble says Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr so what do you do, other than reddit ?
FabianB: mircea_popescu: sounds good
Xplosionist: ";;eauth value-of-turd" yields that.
nubbins` humms
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: / msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com (to freenode, obviously not in channel)
PantyHotOffThePr: As in everyday activities, or in relation to tits? :P Just testin' the waters, felt like being a lil adventurous so I created that reddit account.
nubbins`: do i have free rein regarding content/style?
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml (under 'user registration') - only needs to be done once
assbot: freenode: frequently-asked questions
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr as in for a living.
Xplosionist: I did that, last week. I should be good on that.
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust Xplosionist
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Xplosionist: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Xplosionist | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Xplosionist | Rated since: Mon Jul 14 13:56:42 2014
mircea_popescu: yep the acct exists.
mircea_popescu: ;;ident Xplosionist
gribble: Nick 'Xplosionist', with hostmask 'Xplosionist!~cross@65.207.51.211', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: but you're not identified.
PantyHotOffThePr: 2 different retail jobs, and selling some diy things in my local community as it comes up
Xplosionist: one sec
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr went to school for anything ?
mircea_popescu: !up PantyHotOffThePr
mircea_popescu: !up Xplosionist
benkay: public relations, clearly. what else could the panties be hot off of?
PantyHotOffThePr: Currently, stuck on teaching for now. I'm still flip-floppin on that though
nubbins`: don't do it, it's a trap
Xplosionist: ;;ident Xplosionist
gribble: Nick 'Xplosionist', with hostmask 'Xplosionist!~cross@65.207.51.211', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr shitty plan.
Xplosionist: 4:04 <freenode> NickServYou are already logged in as Xplosionist.
PantyHotOffThePr: Yeah, I've been thinking so as well
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: [fwd slash] msg NickServ IDENTIFY foo password
PantyHotOffThePr: Hence the flip-flop
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: already did?
Xplosionist: Yup, did that, but the eauth still saying the same thing.
mircea_popescu: Xplosionist because asciilifeform is dyslexic
mircea_popescu: you need ;;everify value of turd
mircea_popescu: not ;;eauth value of turd
Xplosionist: thanks. _that_ worked. :-)
asciilifeform: i did point out after.
mircea_popescu: ;: asciilifeform -1 confuses noobs
nubbins`: mp, how about fifty 18x24" posters on double-thick card w/ a 4-color silkscreen print
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr well, so do you want to pursue camwhoring as a career ?
mircea_popescu: or flip flopping on that too ?
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: try self-voicing now
nubbins`: we're gonna leave junk mail on their table, might as well make it something they'll wanna hang on their wall
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i dunno, is that good ?
Xplosionist: asciilifeform: I think I'll just refer to you as alf. Easier, and funny.
nubbins`: it's fucking great is what it is
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: log out, then back in, and message assbot with '!up'
mircea_popescu: nubbins` aite, ima go on your hand. how much ?
BayAreaCoins: If I had tits and was hot I'd be camming
nubbins`: $400 shipped
mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins weren;t you gonna talk to some womenz ?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you're on. addy ? and the20year pls send the guy some address.
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu RavinTavin isn't speaking to me atm.
asciilifeform: nubbins`, mircea_popescu: if poster in rental units - etch it into the fridge, stove, or the like.
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu business dispute
Xplosionist: [slash] mode + v? Tells me I'm not a channl operator. What comment should I be trying?
mircea_popescu: Xplosionist !up
PantyHotOffThePr: Probably not, I dont think it'd be good for whatever career I do land on. "Oh hey, you're my kids teacher right? Saw your tits on skype last night, cool!"
the20year: email?
Xplosionist: !up Xplosionist
nubbins`: 1CiVT9uRrfdqupH1exx5jtPAS9NHPATLqi
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: should be in privmsg to assbot
mircea_popescu: the20year no, he's going to send you 50 posters for teh units.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 622.91, Best ask: 623.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 622.9, 24 hour volume: 3393.86316302, 24 hour low: 617.7, 24 hour high: 632.0, 24 hour vwap: 624.250093266
nubbins`: we'll need to order the paper in, looking at late august if that's okay
the20year: will i get more reviews or whatever I need if I do the flyers so I won't need voiced again?
the20year: that's fine
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot the20year
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user the20year: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=the20year | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year | Rated since: Tue Apr 29 11:21:55 2014
Xplosionist: "!up" tells me it needs a nickname, "!up Xplosionist" tells me "insuffienent rights, !up yourself on PM first". What PM?
mircea_popescu: ;;rate the20year Hasn't run off yet.
gribble: Error: "Hasn't" is not a valid integer.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate the20year 1 Hasn't run off yet.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user the20year has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: now you can self voice.
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: private msg. [fwd slash] msg assbot !up
the20year: nubbins`: i sent you my address
Xplosionist: K. That worked. Thanks alf.
asciilifeform: welcome to #b-a Xplosionist
kakobrekla: nubbins` can you make and ship extra 5 or so to me, ill pay.
nubbins`: got it
mircea_popescu: you know i like alf ? asciilifeform better add it to the highlight list lol
asciilifeform: lol did ages ago
nubbins`: kako can do, ~$7.50 plus s&h
mircea_popescu: Xplosionist here's a tip : if you use an actual client that's not fucktarded, type asc hit tab
nubbins`: (each)
Xplosionist: mircea_popescu: thx. Limechat does that fine. :-)
mircea_popescu: kay, nubbins` PantyHotOffThePr aec53477739a7f4aa8ca52e5645e3c15f3399cd502ffd721546afa99238510d5
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com << useful gizmo with logs, search, 'bash'
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
kakobrekla: nubbins` get me the total number with shipping in btc.
nubbins`: mind if i ship em in a tube?
mircea_popescu: make it red.
mircea_popescu: he gets a lot of red tubes.
nubbins`: we package most things in red paper ;(
fluffypony: red paper packages tied up with string
fluffypony: these are a few of nubbins` favourite things
kakobrekla: dunno, ill prolly have to pay customs either way.
mircea_popescu: lol fluffypony
kakobrekla: dont make them too big
BingoBoingo: !up BayAreaCoins
BingoBoingo: ;;ident BayAreaCoins
gribble: Nick 'BayAreaCoins', with hostmask 'BayAreaCoins!403ac6b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.58.198.181', is not identified.
nubbins`: 20x5x5" tube or 20x26x2" box would be your choices
nubbins`: i suspect the tube would be cheaper to ship and more impervious to damage, but on the down-side your posters get rolled
kakobrekla: what are they made of ?
nubbins`: corrugated cardboard, reinforced corners
nubbins`: it's what we receive paper in
kakobrekla: o i thought it was poster paper
nubbins`: oh oh sorry
kakobrekla: and you can roll that thing
nubbins`: the posters themselves are going on double-thick card
nubbins`: that's a good point
nubbins`: they won't roll
kakobrekla: ok so roll it is!
mircea_popescu: aite i'll be off for a little, bbs.
nubbins`: kako, what country again?
kakobrekla: slovenia
BingoBoingo: Somalia
kakobrekla: yeah BingoBoingo i have it routed.
nubbins`: right, thought so
danielpbarron: if you guys set channel mode +z ops like assbot will be able to see messages from devoiced users; the !up command could work without a private message
nubbins`: looks like a roll would be about $30 postage, flat box would be $60+
nubbins`: which sounds way too high, but who knows
nubbins`: so you'd be looking at a total of $70 or ~$100 for roll/box
nubbins`: ;;calc 70/[ticker --last]
gribble: 0.112399242108
nubbins`: ;;calc 100/[ticker --last]
gribble: 0.160570345869
kakobrekla: gimme an addy if you want it nao
nubbins`: 1CiVT9uRrfdqupH1exx5jtPAS9NHPATLqi
Xplosionist: ;;calc happiness/[ticker --last]
gribble: Error: 'happiness' is not a defined function.
Xplosionist: Oh well, had to try it. Maybe we should define the happiness function?
nubbins`: your logic has no place here D:
Xplosionist: nubbins`: maybe my happiness doesn't either.
nubbins`: !up samO
nubbins`: maybe :)
Xplosionist: "freenode:#bitcoin-otc:88fae3a2d5ea5dbcdda550e9753974dc4f106fafb75dde2ff16a7ed2 "
Xplosionist: "Error: 'happiness' is not a defined function." may visit me in my dreams.
BingoBoingo: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
samO: thx nubbins`
BingoBoingo: ;;echo up stormlight
gribble: up stormlight
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 48 @ 0.015375 = 0.738 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: !up stormlight
kakobrekla: nubbins` sent.
nubbins`: tyvm
thestringpuller: ;;kittehlasers
gribble: Error: "kittehlasers" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: make it nice and not too big :)
thestringpuller: ;;kittenlasers
gribble: Error: "kittenlasers" is not a valid command.
nubbins`: will do :D
Xplosionist: ;;lasers shoot the kitten
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
BingoBoingo: !s kitt*
thestringpuller: !s kitt* laser
BingoBoingo: ;;laserkittens
gribble: ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 198 @ 0.0028 = 0.5544 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 310736 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1743 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 22 hours, 31 minutes, and 13 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18180062148.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.86692
BingoBoingo: !up PantyHotOffThePr
BingoBoingo: !up kermit
asciilifeform: ;;seen moiety
gribble: moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 23 hours, 36 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <moiety> kk really away for reals this time, i'll check that when im out
asciilifeform: ;;later tell moiety old neighbour discovered her cat eaten. what species eats housecats?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Xplosionist: asciilifeform: Dogs, big ones.
mike_c: coyotes
asciilifeform: Xplosionist: afaik neither animal is the likely suspect
asciilifeform: afaik the last coyote here ate his bullet at least a century ago.
Xplosionist: asciilifeform: Coyotes are around...
Xplosionist: Oh no, there are still coyotes around in the midatlantic. Mostly out into the appalaichains, but some in the area.
mike_c: raccoons will do it too
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do you have a favourite pill against coyote ?
assbot: Maryland Woman Reports Coyotes Attacked Her Dogs | NBC4 Washington
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Other than marking territory and verbally accosting coyotes I encounter? Hmmm....
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Probably the best defense is a larger dog or a gram or so of lead
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: difficult to hunt in the city without everyone knowing.
Xplosionist: BingoBoingo: If only the automated lead disbursal was an easier to solve problem. :-)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, at least for coyote sized targets. Otherwise there are some primer motivated only rimfire loads that are rather quiet
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suppose for the genuine aficionado, there's always the 'cranequin'.
BingoBoingo: I mean it's hard to set traps for coyote that also won't be appealing to every other animal around, so you'd prelly have to go for a live trap.
BingoBoingo: That would be a rather large cage trap (the only kind really permitted in human habited areas.
assbot: Bot Dominance - Global Guerrillas
assbot: Darpa tests bullet-sized homing missiles (Wired UK)
asciilifeform: benkay: ancient project. objective, in reality, is to bring on the wet dream of dod contractors everywhere: bullet costing $MAXINT.
BingoBoingo: http://www.wikihow.com/Act-when-Near-a-Coyote << Guide could also be called how to make coyotes feel at home in your neighborhood
assbot: 3 Ways to Act when Near a Coyote - wikiHow
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, benkay: 'linux rifle' << when i first heard of this gadget, first though was 'why is it fired by electromechanically-controlled trigger weight and not simply electrical'. turns out, electrical firing is banned in usa.
BingoBoingo: Indeed it is
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: any idea why ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Probably because it makes full automatic firing possible
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: on a bolt-action elephant rifle ?
BingoBoingo: Why make a device with electric ignition bolt action?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: accuracy. as pictured in the linked review.
asciilifeform: though the whole thing strikes me as quite like fishing with dynamite - where does the sport remain in the hunt ?
benkay: i also think robots aren't allowed to pull triggers on their own.
BingoBoingo: Oh, the engineers already had the sport with that one
BingoBoingo: I always imagined electic ignition firearms were for stuff like that caseless ammunition asssault rifle idea the Germans played with in the 80's
assbot: Defense against coyotes? - Homesteading Today
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: american cities, where no hunt is permitted, and re-appearing large carnivores will be - is - an interesting combination.
BingoBoingo: It really is.
BingoBoingo: I wonder what a few more generations of feral culture will do to the wild dogs in Detroit.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i recall, they've already been eaten.
asciilifeform: well - shot, cooked, and sold at a famous open air market
BingoBoingo: Ah, well then I guess we have to see what one of the other Murican urban futures labs report.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: At least living in a place with winter you don't have to worry about the problem of large snakes becoming established carnivorous megafauna
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jurov: imo the cat was eaten by spider
BingoBoingo: !up nubbins`
mircea_popescu: i just got discriminated against!
asciilifeform: lol, how ?
mircea_popescu: dude waiting for elevator in lobby, sorta middle aged middle east looking guy. i push the button, look around, discover his elevator is actually the closest, nod at him, guy is sorta scowling at me. then he moves over. elevator gets here, i go in, he's not going in. i go like come right in, he's pushing the button
ThickAsThieves: who's the nigger now!
asciilifeform misread from corner of eye, 'discover his elevator is actually the closet', initially puzzled
kakobrekla: you werent looking germant werent you?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ikr? dat burn.
mircea_popescu: i dunno. im not blonde. how does one look german ?
kakobrekla: german*
kakobrekla: they look like running out of argentina
kakobrekla: hair is similar.
mircea_popescu: isn't that british
mircea_popescu: !up PantyHotOffThePr
asciilifeform: don't imagine they're terribly fond of brits in Ar either
mircea_popescu: well tbh i kinda look... i dunno, i guess jewish
mircea_popescu: minus the nose.
ThickAsThieves: maybe he knows a romanian when he sees one
mircea_popescu: i don't look like any romanian i've ever met.
ThickAsThieves: we separated you from your twin at birth
mircea_popescu: who's we ? i thought i was older than you
ThickAsThieves: The Infininati
ThickAsThieves: age is just a number
mircea_popescu: aww why not infinititti ?
mircea_popescu: when one has such a great chance at a great name!
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr so the question to you was, do you want to pursue camwhoring as a career ?
PantyHotOffThePr: Not particularly, pictures are one thing but slamming my face in a video when I may become a teacher probably isn't the smartest idea.
mircea_popescu: well listen, you gotta find something to actually do.
mircea_popescu: this sorta halfway everything is a great way to become a sad old person.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: Xplosionist: afaik neither animal is the likely suspect << a lot of rats.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the cat in question was part of an 8-cat brigade, so rat is unlikely.
mircea_popescu: depends.
mircea_popescu: rats aren't actually either brave or pack-hunters.
mircea_popescu: shit i mean cats aren't.
asciilifeform: was a rather skinny and aged (17 y!) speciment, however.
mircea_popescu: usually the way this works is it misjudges itself, attacks a rat, the rat bites it badly,
mircea_popescu: after which the rest of the rats opportunity-eat it.
PantyHotOffThePr: Eh, I'll figure it out sooner or later. I hope.
mircea_popescu: PantyHotOffThePr one thing you can do is get yourself in the wot.
asciilifeform: do rats know how to drag a carcass away, like ants ?
mircea_popescu: why do you thin kthe sewer is a thing ?
mircea_popescu: ;;google highly sexual yelps of Kournikova playing tennis
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mircea_popescu: i will end up owning the english language.
mircea_popescu: ;;google pay for your tits
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asciilifeform: !up PantyHotOffThePr
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if google has a search profile for gribble
Xplosionist: asciilifeform: Getting up in the panties. nice.
Xplosionist: ;;google gribble search profile
gribble: Gribble neighborhood in Dallas, Texas (TX), 75229, 75234 ...: <http://www.city-data.com/neighborhood/Gribble-Dallas-TX.html>; Matthew Gribble - United Arab Emirates | LinkedIn: <http://ae.linkedin.com/in/matthewgribble>; Matt Gribble profiles | LinkedIn: <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Matt/Gribble>
Xplosionist: ThickAsThieves: Not a good one. :-)
ThickAsThieves: trilema is 2nd when i search pay for your tits
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i imagine it must. but i get the same off random ips too
mircea_popescu: i wonder how profiling gribble would work, seeing how it never clicks on anything
rithm: oooh a search profile
rithm: that doesn't work, i've been trolled here
rithm: smh
ThickAsThieves: yep it's 2nd if i use a clena browser too
mircea_popescu: ono gribs, you've been lied to ?
mircea_popescu: http://myfreeimplants.com/ << kickstarter is so last derpday. boobstarter is here! invest in breast!
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ThickAsThieves: is it blowjobs for boobjobs essentially?
mircea_popescu: i doubt it. prolly more like "click to feed the indians" sorta deal
Xplosionist: I wonder if they prohibit suggesting repayment in blowjobs?
mircea_popescu: a blowjob is like $20. a hotel stay, like $100. airfare say $500.
mircea_popescu: why would you buy blowjobs on the interwebs ?
ThickAsThieves: why would you by drugs on the interwebs?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that's retarded, which is why sr never went anywhere.
mircea_popescu: now imagine pills were 50lbs+ each
ThickAsThieves: i'd be even less likely to take them
Xplosionist: mircea_popescu: YEah, but if you could get a whole lot of blowjobs from someone for a couple hundred bucks toniation toward her plastic surgery, then.
mircea_popescu: then just buy her outright and get her the surgery ?
Xplosionist: I'm not saying it's likely to work out at all well.
ThickAsThieves: maybe site has "find sunken chest in your area"
mircea_popescu: i wonder if there's a weirdo-christian website paying women to have breastreduction.
Xplosionist: free thinking, doesn't require (or recommend!) serious analysis. :-)
mircea_popescu: something a la skoptsy.
mircea_popescu: hey kakobrekla , "Last block: 59 minutes ago (310746)" according to bitbet but we're on 310750.
mike_c: blockchains are hard
mike_c: WoL is on 310802 because it is awesome
mike_c: it sees the future
mircea_popescu: 228 (block 310,751 no ?
mike_c: ok, it doesn't *really* see the future
mike_c: but if it could!
assbot: 10 Terrifyingly Evil Killer Cults - Listverse
mircea_popescu: "On November 25, 1996, Ferrell and his vampire clan, which consisted of Scott Anderson and two teenage girls"
mircea_popescu: next one up, "Operating in Massachusetts in the late ’70s, the Fall Rivers Cult was led by 25-year-old Carl Drew. Drew was a pimp who used Satanism to terrify the prostitutes who worked for him."
mircea_popescu: that guy musta thrown some wild parties.
kakobrekla: yes its being fixed
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mike_c: confirmed fixed.
mircea_popescu: "The South Pacific's first native Anglican bishop, Sir George Ambo, was excommunicated after running off with a nun, Sister Cora, with whom he set up a visionary cult."
mircea_popescu: Lundgren told jurors at his trial that he was a prophet of God and “not worthy of the death penalty.” The jurors disagreed and sentenced him to death. In a last-ditch appeal, Lundgren claimed he was too fat to be executed. The court shot down that appeal, too, and he was executed by lethal injection on October 24, 2006.
mircea_popescu: dude that's an argument. "i'm too fat to die!"
Xplosionist: No, "I'm to fat to be killed." Now disproven. :-)
mircea_popescu: yet another thing that works better for corporations.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a usa-specific thing, that probably needs explanation. a number of convicts argued (to varying degrees of success) that their execution, via the locally prescribed method, 'couldn't possibly work humanely'
mircea_popescu: oh, that's what it is.
asciilifeform: and then the judges get to fill out more paperwork, etc.
asciilifeform: 'too fat' has been tried with regards to hanging, poison, etc.
mircea_popescu: The foursome would travel around the city in Gecht’s van and either lure women to the van or outright kidnap them. They would take the victims back to Gecht’s apartment in order to sacrifice them. First, they took turns raping the victim, before removing the breast using piano wire. Apparently, they subsequently masturbated onto the amputated breast before dicing it up and then eating it. This was all done while Ge
mircea_popescu: cht read aloud from the Satanic Bible.
mircea_popescu: that's the atomic cumbiscuit ?
mircea_popescu: "Despite a guilty plea, Taylor was given the death penalty. In 2010, Taylor tried to commit suicide by stuffing pens and pencils in his eye sockets, which only ended up blinding him. On August 14, 2013, Taylor hanged himself in his cell using his bedsheets."
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mircea_popescu: it's stil a smart five year investment.
Azelphur: objectifying women, etc etc xD
mircea_popescu: Azelphur im not so up to date with the thing, so you're calling some dating site's api
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: nah no API, scraping.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I'm building a SQL database of singles in my area...for science and such.
Azelphur: and okcupid has intelligence questions
Azelphur: so I can literally select * from users where clue > 0
mircea_popescu: how's the clue > 0 part work ?
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: okc asks basic intelligence questions, such as "STALE is to STEAL as 89475 is to...?"
dub: surely you want clue < 0
Azelphur: and as the site allows you to see peoples answers to questions, I can just do db queries and filter all those people out xD
mircea_popescu: ok, but i mean... filtering out retards != selecting for positive clue
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: hey, I didn't say it was much of a clue.
mircea_popescu: what you need is access to the inbox of a few hundred of the hotter women,
punkman: oops
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: hahaha
mircea_popescu: take all the messages guys sent them over a decade
mircea_popescu: make a beautiful soup of that
mircea_popescu: then send it to your prospects, see who answers
mircea_popescu: select the rest.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: so basically, "u wan sum fuk?" xD
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu missed an 'invert' operator in there
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform noididn't.avi Azelphur it's actually quite patternable.
mircea_popescu: it's a good read, i recommend it.
asciilifeform: the women probably have a bayesian spamzapper. you want to slip past, not end up inside.
Azelphur: I see
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform identitty is cheap.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many twentysomething owners of moderately successful sm sites have so far selected the interractions of all the people that got laid on the site and hashtree'd it.
mircea_popescu: sorta like a "talking to womenz prosthetic"
Azelphur: haha
mircea_popescu: after all, the space of language is actually finite, and besides, what are people who don't know each other gonna talk about.
mircea_popescu: 5, maybe 10 things.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: ever read oktrends? You'd like it I reckon.
Azelphur: they perform various statistical analysis on their entire db
Azelphur: and draw all sorts of hilariously insulting conclusions
Azelphur: such as religious people have lower literacy levels
mircea_popescu: "The official blog of OkCupid.com. Shows trends and insights into it's online dating network."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's still no thermonuke. eventually you have to dance in the flesh.
mircea_popescu: o look, the official ca'nt sp'eal.
Azelphur: hehe
mircea_popescu: am i do'ing it ri'ght ?
Azelphur: needs more apostrophe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's what rohypnol is for.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: robert sheckley had a story ('50s) about a 'dating agency' that would tell you exactly what to do, through a hidden earphone. fellow puts it on, and gets really bored, because it turns out they also sell to the gurlz
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was it "The Cyrano de Bergerac Memorial Dating Agency" ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's what the fuck us media does, anyway. buncha retarded kids who can't touch each other growing up, sitting around reading cracked and jezbel to figure out what to say to each other
mircea_popescu: "The basic currency of the Internet is human ignorance, and, frankly, our database holds a strong cash position!"
mircea_popescu: o ok Azelphur , i like them nao.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: hahaha, I knew you would :P
mircea_popescu: "Okay, if you want to know... Will my date have sex on the first date? Ask... » Do you like the taste of beer? Because... Among all our casual topics, whether someone likes the taste of beer is the single best predictor of if he or she has sex on the first date."
mircea_popescu: ok i fucking don't like them anymore.
mircea_popescu: to imagine the genders are idempotent in this line... holy shit.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: why not? I thought that question was particularly hilarious
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'the average number of legs a customer has is...'
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: they don't imagine, they have the data to back up that it's fairly equal?
mircea_popescu: if you think a buncha fratbros being in denial about how shitty budlight is makes a good predictor for whether maryjane in sorority rush is likely to fuck you right now...
mircea_popescu: dude srsly. what data do they have showing it's equal, fairly or otherwise ?
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: because they ask users 1) Would you consider sleeping with someone on a first date, 2) What sex are you, 3) Do you like the taste of beer?
mircea_popescu: "Sadly, this is the only question with a meaningful correlation for women. For men there are a few others" << now i like them again.
Azelphur: given the answer to all 3, you have an answer xD
Azelphur: haha
mircea_popescu: dude i'm having an on again / off again relationship with okcupid and it's official bl'og.
mircea_popescu: Azelphur you ever seen control ?
Azelphur: nope
mircea_popescu: it's a pretty decent film, bio of ian curtis.
mircea_popescu: i imagine you'd like it.
mircea_popescu: Q: Could you imagine yourself killing someone? << fuck me! this actually is to my knowledge the best predictor there is.
mircea_popescu: seems they not only figured this out, but also have a slightly better one. nuclear attack in certain light ?
mircea_popescu: impressive.
Azelphur: hehe
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/nJCH867F yay, 40% of people within 25 miles of me are plonkers.
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mircea_popescu: isn't that too fucking much ?
mircea_popescu: ;;ud plonkers
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=plonker | the term plonker started out as a reference to someone who was forever drunk on cheap wine (cheap wine is nicknamed plonk) this person was usualy a ...
Azelphur: nope, 145 users within 25 miles as me, 69 of them answered the question, 28 of them got it right
Azelphur: and amusingly I derped my statistic, so I myself am a plonker, it's 60% of people within 25 miles of me are plonkers.
mircea_popescu: If you want to know... Do my date and I have the same politics? Ask him or her... » Do you prefer the people in your life to be simple or complex? Because... http://akcdn.okccdn.com/blog/first_date_questions/SimplicityComplexity.png
mircea_popescu: well now that's weird. i guess i'm 2:1 a liberal ?
ThickAsThieves: of the type of person that would fill out okcupid profiles
Azelphur: ThickAsThieves: well yea, true
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves do you have one ?
ThickAsThieves: not since like before facebook
mircea_popescu: http://akcdn.okccdn.com/blog/first_date_questions/MegaChart2.png << religion correlates with poor spelling and reading comprehension
mircea_popescu: for all religions not in (atheist, agnostic)
ThickAsThieves: buddhism transcends
mircea_popescu: mostly because a buncha cali fags and assorted antrepreneurs think it's chick.
ThickAsThieves: i met a smart yoga guy once
ThickAsThieves: actually no
mircea_popescu: davout http://akcdn.okccdn.com/blog/10charts/Frenchmen.png << it's official. they got the datas.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i think yoga and budhism are different.
ThickAsThieves: so they say
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ThickAsThieves: would a true buddhist have an okcupid profile?
mircea_popescu: ;;google erotoghid
gribble: Fucking, a guide. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/fucking-a-guide>; I Suspect There Is More To This World, or A Story Of The ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2014/i-suspect-there-is-more-to-this-world-or-a-story-of-the-unindustrious/>; Februarie 2011 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2011/02>
mircea_popescu: bizarre.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves why not ?
ThickAsThieves: takes women 20yrs to learn to orgasm?
ThickAsThieves: well buddhism is about removing desire, and, well, everything, no?
mircea_popescu: i think that's boreism.
mircea_popescu: and i think women just about need 20 years to learn to orgasm, yes.
mircea_popescu: course you can cut that to six weeks iykwyd.
ThickAsThieves: no comment
mircea_popescu: i don't know that many women that don't like sucking cock.
mircea_popescu: certainly more guys who (at least pretend) not to.
ThickAsThieves: where is the "Odds Someone Enjoys Getting Oral Sex?"
ThickAsThieves: then we can learn the puritanism factor
mircea_popescu: Frequent tweeters have shorter real-life relationships than everyone else, probably via some bit.ly hack. Unfortunately, we have no way to tell who's dumping who here; whether the twitterati are more annoying or just more flighty than everyone else.
mircea_popescu: i have an idea, just deliver add medicine with the whale.
mircea_popescu: and holy shit year and a half average relationships ?! what the fuck sense does that make, it's the uncanny valley of relationships. either a few good fucks for a coupla weeks or else years, who does this middle of the road bs ?
nubbins`: dudes who don't wanna deal with the 5 minutes of awkwardness it takes to break up with someone they're not really interested in
nubbins`: it's a thing, srsly
nubbins`: what else do you expect from a generation that deals with problems by ignoring them
dub: lol
dub: liek global warming?
nubbins`: well no, that's the previous generation
nubbins` thinks
nubbins`: this one too, though
benkay: this one realizes that there's nothing to be done subconsciously about physics.
benkay: feelings, though, are legislatable.
benkay: (generations, i mean)
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nubbins`: benkay: what's a war on drugs but a legislated range of feelings?
mircea_popescu: dub people deal with the problem of global warming by giving the bums involved more money to do more "research"
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mircea_popescu: im bashing that nubbins line
nubbins`: er which?
nubbins`: i have so many quotable quips that it's hard to keep track
benkay: nubbins`: no way man that's rent-seeking.
mircea_popescu: pretty cool eagles.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the range o' feelings.
nubbins`: ah ah
nubbins`: srsly tho. war on unauthorized mental states
nubbins`: imagine such a thing
mike_c: oh man. bash is improving. there is some funny shit in there.
benkay: flip it
benkay: it's not a 'war' on anything.
mircea_popescu: mike_c ikr!
benkay: it's an outlawing of things to make work for the rent-seekers.
benkay: this employs head-knockers and jail-lockers.
mircea_popescu: benkay no, it's not a war. the way i see it, to keep a police force going you gotta give it some niggers to pick on.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, it becomes too expensive.
benkay: those exist anyways, man.
mike_c: i generally am disappointed when ninjashogun gets upped, but he is a gold mine.
mircea_popescu: and since the actual niggers are rioting... they moived to fags. those also rioted in the 50s
nubbins`: mike_c +1
mircea_popescu: so now it's pedos and bongheads
nubbins`: potheads don't riot
benkay: a reasonably sized constabulary could be had if its mandate were reasonable.
mircea_popescu: exactly. perfect fodder.
mircea_popescu: then again, that's what they said about fags, too. look into stonewall inn.
nubbins`: benkay: sounds like here
benkay: it's a massive constabulary though, and needs a massive mandate to keep it fat and busy.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, v familiar
nubbins`: nobody riots until they do
mircea_popescu: benkay no, it could not. because you oculdn't motivate anyone to join it.
mircea_popescu: just like you can't have a sane corpus of teachers.
nubbins`: teaching and police work are for the daft or the dangerous
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: if you can give them someone to shitface, then you can get the dangerous to be useful.
mircea_popescu: it all rests on this major question.
benkay: but must we have so many constables?
nubbins`: not initially
nubbins`: but once the ranks swell
nubbins`: it's harder to squeeze the dead air back out
mircea_popescu: benkay i kinda like being able to ask for directions.
benkay: what, you don't talk to regular humans for things like that?
mircea_popescu: also, idiots tend to think nothing they can't see exists. best way to keep compton in line is keeping cars on patrol.
mircea_popescu: they see a cop, the underdevelop part of their brain that regulates behaviour gets a jolt.
benkay: lol o compton's in line?
nubbins`: best way to keep this grease fire under control is to only let a little bit of oxygen at it
mircea_popescu: benkay sure. they got a gdp and everything.
benkay: so does mexico.
benkay: so does the usg, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
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benkay: why not send robocop cars around?
benkay: all that part of the brain needs is the black and white, not the human behind the wheel.
mircea_popescu: im not so sure.
nubbins`: yeah
mircea_popescu: what was the film with that retard cop
nubbins`: haha i laughed at that one too
mircea_popescu: ends up involved with some cokehead, sister of tom cruise who's a total dudebro
nubbins`: BUT MOSTLY I'M A BITCOINER
mircea_popescu: a yes, magnolia. ever seen magnolia benkay ?
nubbins`: wait, she wasn't tom cruise's sister
nubbins`: in that movie
mircea_popescu: yah i got confused.
nubbins`: re: the retard cop (john c reilly), he's done some really bizarre comedy
nubbins`: like, really fucked
mircea_popescu: anyway. retarded cop, gets out of car, has interraction with rapper 12 yo black kid
mircea_popescu: that's the thing.
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: same kid that eventually finds his gun?
nubbins`: i was actually impressed by how much of a douchebag tom cruise's character was in that movie
mircea_popescu: anyway, i confess when i hear someone's a rapper, that kid is what i think about.
nubbins`: hahah
mircea_popescu: much like when i hear smeone's an entrepreneur, what i think about are the poor egyptian kids in luxor.
mircea_popescu: huddled around two 386 hooked into a dialup modem (cca 2004!), at the Luxor Center For Businessmen.
mircea_popescu: (dirt floors)
nubbins`: when i hear someone's a rapper, i think of reggie watts ;(
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mircea_popescu: jesus what a promising thing ted was, and what a smoldering shitpile it turned into.
mircea_popescu: all this because they refused to implement anti-inclusiveness, hierarchy, closedness, etc.
nubbins`: ^ that video starts with the guy taking the piss out of every TED presenter ever
benkay: holy hell
benkay: lady v's father is going to burning man
nubbins`: it's pretty rich
benkay: <mircea_popescu> a yes, magnolia. ever seen magnolia benkay ? // no sir
mircea_popescu: well it's a shitty movie, but i guess it makes this particular sidepoint well.
benkay: no but srsly the foxnews conservative gentleman is going to burning man
benkay: it must be over
benkay: what, 160k this year?
mircea_popescu: benkay it was over in 2007/2008
benkay: what, that recently?
mircea_popescu: pre-that, 80%+ of the chicks i knew states-side went
mircea_popescu: that year... like 1/3
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm biased cause age.
benkay: it's always over this year.
benkay: it's got it's own eternal september thing
mircea_popescu: now that may also be.
mircea_popescu: maybe your father in law is considering it's unfair you shoulda got the vixen, and wants to get a replacement.
benkay: yeah, sr. lady v's marbles are a bit scattered
mircea_popescu: "honey, i love you very much, but i just can't live without twentysomething yo cunt in the house"
benkay: i did cart her off to burning man and then demanded a dowry so you may be on to something there
benkay: (eternal september is also a poor joke about the dates of the thing in question)
benkay: hey last night i learned that gates sr, jr, and warran buffet indulged in an orgy while floating through some famously beautiful chinese water thing
benkay: warren*
danielpbarron: i think magnolia is a shaggy dog story
mircea_popescu: how long were you saving that expression ?
danielpbarron: which can be good.. but often aren't
danielpbarron: yeah no kidding; that one doesn't come up often
mircea_popescu: benkay what, with each other ?
benkay: details were...scant.
benkay: but who says they were the only ones, eh?
benkay: more reasonable assumption is a bevy of local sluts.
mircea_popescu: did this have anything to do with giving away money for forwarding omething ?
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> well it's a shitty movie, but i guess it makes this particular sidepoint well. /// everyone ive ever shown the movie too agrees with you, but it has this lingering impression
BingoBoingo: Forward this email to X people and old fucks invade your house for an orgy?
ThickAsThieves: probly just the direction
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo truth@lemonparty.org
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves imo it's mr. bookman that saves it.
mircea_popescu: also the fact they try so hard to re-do QT it's almost lulzy
BingoBoingo: I'm a lemon party truther. Lemon party is an Obama scheme to keep McCain out of the White House.
assbot: A Real Shaggy Dog Story - YouTube
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benkay: BingoBoingo: 420 was an inside jihad
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.1851 = 1.1106 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: ;;google 420 carl sagan blaze it
gribble: 420 Blaze It | Know Your Meme: <http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/420-blaze-it>; An atheist fell 420 feet into a mountain crevasse. Thankfully he got it ...: <http://www.reddit.com/r/circlejerk/comments/26be1t/an_atheist_fell_420_feet_into_a_mountain_crevasse/>; Is Awesome GIFs on Giphy: <http://giphy.com/search/is-awesome>
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1851 = 0.5553 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: there needs to be a recruitahoodrat.com
thestringpuller: to /msg BingoBoingo ugh restaraunts. the sucky thing abouy finding good restaurants you have to go through the shitty ones first
thestringpuller: wow fone typing
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: there you go, I'm now oktrends, sort of. http://blog.azelphur.com/node/297
assbot: Okcupid shenanigans: General intelligence questions | Azelphur's Blog.
mircea_popescu: lol cool.
kakobrekla: wait werent you with some coder chick that was not after your money ?
Azelphur: kakobrekla: breakup a few months ago now :P
kakobrekla: so she was after the money ?
Azelphur: nah, never asked and never got
mircea_popescu: ok so, mpex report : the servers are built and racked. they have power. os installed. networking isn't working properly, clustering software being hammered into shape.
mircea_popescu: Azelphur you know nubbins can make you that shirt.
Azelphur: fun :)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla she was after the big ding dongs.
kakobrekla: possibly.
mircea_popescu: skinny is deprecating ?!
mircea_popescu: ahahahaah okcupid blog links their competitor as sausageparty.com
benkay: the joys of private ownership.
benkay: when does it make sense to do a public offering? as in - why would i ever do that?
mircea_popescu: would you fuck a stranger ?
assbot: When you fuck a stranger in the ass - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18699994 = 0.935 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 247 @ 0.00282 = 0.6965 BTC [-]
benkay: but if i make a profitable thing, why list it on mpex?
peterl: benkay: if you need more capital to grow, then you IPO to get an influx of cash
peterl: or if you want hookers and blow now instead of waiting patiently for your money?
benkay: but mike doesn't need capital
benkay: nor kakobrekla
benkay: (mike_c, that is)
benkay: is it a generous donation to the ecosystem? "here i made this thing and by my grace you can partake of its profits"?
mike_c: WoL does need capital. hence the loan from mpif
benkay: i clearly don't understand WoL in dpeth.
mike_c: join the club. i'm working on that.
peterl: you are saying there is nothing you could do with more money?
benkay: what does WoL need more capital for? seeding pots?
mike_c: minigames are bets against the house
benkay: rgr
peterl: so it is acting as a casino?
ThickAsThieves: of course not!
mike_c: don't be silly
mike_c: more like a cryptocurrency playground
ThickAsThieves: like a chuck e cheese
peterl: cryptocurrency casino?
mike_c: ^ like TaT said. put your tokens in, get little tickets.
mike_c: redeem tickets for stuffed animals.
peterl: ah, no chance of getting money back?
mike_c: "money". you can get bitcoin back.
ThickAsThieves: blowstamps
mike_c: the irs explicitly said bitcoin isn't money
ThickAsThieves: irs doesnt get to decide
peterl: but bitcoin is what you put in
mike_c: bitcoin is what you put in. bitcoin is what you get out.
mike_c: or Altcoin!
peterl: so it looks like a casino
ThickAsThieves watches planes fly over peterl's head
mike_c: i think of it more as a playground.
peterl: and what are the buildings in vegas if not playgrounds too?
mike_c: WoL doesn't have any magicians
peterl: why not? that would make it more fun!
mike_c: it's true. i'll put it on the list
benkay: <peterl> you are saying there is nothing you could do with more money? // riddle me this - what does bitbet do with the money?
peterl: I dunno exactly? Seed bets, buy advertising, maintain servers?
benkay: i wonder what kind of load bitbet supports.
benkay: hey kakobrekla can you clue us into the traffic bitbet's pushing?
mike_c: bitbet does nothing with the money. it's a zac
assbot: Number of stray cats on the rise in Laurel and Prince George's County - baltimoresun.com
benkay: so then we come back to my question - why would an an0 company list publically?
mike_c: liquidity for the owners is a big reason
decimation: "According to Volack, most of the stray and wild cats in the city are usually spotted in backyards, and she sometimes gets resistance when she tries to trap the cats. "I've been trying my hardest to capture the strays and feral cats and kittens, but I have just as many people who don't want me to trap them as those who do.""
mike_c: and you mean zac
benkay: right, yes i do
mike_c: an0 = asset non-zero
benkay: so there's the answer i'm looking for - liquidity for the owners.
mike_c: that is one answer. another might have to do with mp's desire to build an ecosystem. but i'll leave that answer to him.
benkay: <benkay> is it a generous donation to the ecosystem? "here i made this thing and by my grace you can partake of its profits"?
benkay: hey i'm learning
benkay: slowly, but...
mike_c: you are making me answer for him, which i am not qualified to do. but I would guess two things. 1) yes 2) mayhaps some people benefit from advancing the ecosystem.
benkay: the old "adoption" thing.
benkay: apologies, i didnt mean to imply that i was re-asking the question, more that i'd already guessed that was a reason.
peterl: benkay: so there's the answer i'm looking for - liquidity for the owners. << as I said, they want their hookers and blow now
decimation: I think there's a pent-up demand for bitcoin income
mike_c: why does bitcoin price go up? "adoption" seems a poor answer to me. to me it is because the value of the whole system actually increases. perhaps part of that value increase is due to having a more vibrant financial ecosystem.
decimation: seems to me that if you think you can grow your company with more investment, you find investors to grow it
decimation: lol http://www.abcbirds.org/newsandreports/releases/121121.html "Ear-tipped cats are feral cats that have been trapped, neutered, and then re-released. "
assbot: Prince Georges County Council Ignores Slaughter of Wildlife – Chooses Protection of Feral Cats
decimation: don't forget about the cats! they need equality too!
mike_c: ok testers, WoL just shipped websockets for the minigames.
mike_c: so plz find the bugs.
mike_c: ;;later tell punkman you can lose your money faster now. minigames have websockets.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mike_c: and direct opera bugs to /dev/null (just kidding kako)
mircea_popescu: !up chairforce1
mircea_popescu: <benkay> but if i make a profitable thing, why list it on mpex? << nobody's holding a gun to your head no ?
chairforce1: cool thanks
mircea_popescu: yw. who are you ?
benkay: <mircea_popescu> <benkay> but if i make a profitable thing, why list it on mpex? << nobody's holding a gun to your head no ? // clearly. but why did bitbet list?
chairforce1: just a guy who likes bitcoin
benkay: !s chairforce1
mircea_popescu: what srsly
chairforce1: there thats me
benkay: old man
benkay: memory going ;)
mircea_popescu: seems so.
benkay: those three days up in a row
mircea_popescu: why the existential q's anyway ?
mircea_popescu: it's like "why get married", "why make friends", "why eat a steak" or w/e.
benkay: what, listing on mpex tastes good?
benkay: it does, no q, but is that the sole roi?
benkay: mostly 'cause i'm a derpy young thing trying to not. lose. money.
mircea_popescu: existential questions are fundamentally broken because things that exist exist in an infinity of ways, whereas things that are represented are represented in a finite manner.
mircea_popescu: the existential question either exploits or bumbles into this fundamental problem. it can never have an actual answer,
mircea_popescu: much like you can't be delivered the notion of pear or the sadness of joseph.
benkay: well, you'll note the particular questions sprinkled in there.
mircea_popescu: i thought those were answered.
benkay: like - why did bitbet?
mircea_popescu: but in general : a listed company has some advantages, and some disadvantages. let's look into it.
mthreat: one reason to take investment, even if you could fund it out of your own pocket, is to offset risk from yourself to investors.
mircea_popescu: Capital : a listed company has more capital, and more ready access to capital.
mircea_popescu: Networking : for one thing, your investors are your best pr.
mircea_popescu: Scoring : you get to know how good you're doing, as a manger.
mircea_popescu: these also work together, like n+s : more people are paying attention, so it works like open source for your accounting, for instance.
mircea_popescu: it also has some disadvantages, such as a loss of control, or association with another party or whatever.
mircea_popescu: supposedly mpex manages to mitigate the drawbacks while supercharging the advnatages,
mircea_popescu: but this is really like the discussion of whether bitcoin or network difficulty are too high or too low or w/e.
mircea_popescu: a more practical approach is to look at "why do people get into the wot ?" and go from there. why do people finish highschool ? why do people go on to college ? should everyone with a hs diploma strive to go to college ? etc.
mike_c: mp also has a theory that listing prevents competition because they can just invest in you instead of building a copy.
benkay: very educational. thank you all.
mircea_popescu: this is in fact correct. if someone wants exposure to x market, with a company in x market listed his options are "invest or roll your own"
mircea_popescu: but without, his options are "roll your own". which is in fact often inefficient.
mircea_popescu: so yes, it IS a gift to the community. just, not in the sense you'd think. it's the sort of gift you're not at a loss for giving, like sharing music.
benkay: one'd only roll their own if the existing solution were such crap that it could easily be beat in the market.
mircea_popescu: or if they need it.
mircea_popescu: you know ? if you want to make whatsapp and there's no phone carrier, now what ?
decimation: it seems to me that there's a pent-up demand for income for those who are holders of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: decimation experience shows that approach is not only theoretically naive, but also actually leads to failure.
mircea_popescu: this okcupid stuff is a goldmine. "Another inquiry that had unexpected results: we asked 252,900 straight people have you ever had a sexual encounter with someone of the same sex?". men : 7% did and enjoyed it ; 6% did and didn't enjoy it ; 5% didn't but would like to try. women : 26% did and enjoy it ; 7% didn't enjoy it ; 18% would like to try it.
mircea_popescu: no mention of age, but I am ready to take a bet that your average highschool today is half-bi, half bi-curious gals.
mircea_popescu: http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/gaystraight/HeatMap.png << also canada has been renamed gaynada nao.
decimation: I guess I was thinking of reasons why "the public" would bother to invest in a publically available stock.
mircea_popescu: you mean what, fiat ? or small btc holders ?
thestringpuller: what's that a heat map of?
mircea_popescu: gayness.
mircea_popescu: red is most gay.
assbot: Gay Sex vs. Straight Sex « OkTrends
danielpbarron: there are no gays in mexico apparently
decimation: small btc holders, looking for income
danielpbarron: they must have the same policy as iran
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron this is false, i personally had drinks with a bunch of openly gay people there.
mircea_popescu: o lol you went by map. i think they just didn't fill it in
decimation: !up chairforce1
mircea_popescu: wtf is "the l word"
danielpbarron: the show or the word? either way it's about lesbians
assbot: Showtime : The L Word : Home
danielpbarron: it's basically porn but with much more dialog
chairforce1: thanks decimation
mircea_popescu: We selected 526,000 OkCupid users at random and divided them into groups by their (self-stated) race. We then took all these people's profile essays (280 million words in total!) << ok this makes me fucking curious.
asciilifeform: ^ tldr: massive catalogue of usg... spam tools.
decimation: ultimately the usg depends on "likes" in the polling booth, right?
asciilifeform: the 'ddos mpex' script is probably in there.
asciilifeform: 'swamp donkey' << lol! apparently a usg version of 'cryptolocker'
mircea_popescu: decimation how ?
decimation: well, I'm thinking of "likes" of its foreign policy
asciilifeform: 'quincy... exploitation of seized media' << another mega-lol
asciilifeform: 'nevis... is a tool developed by NTAC to search disk images for possible Encryption products. CMA have further developed this tool to look for signs of Steganography'
asciilifeform: this reminds me of a story
mircea_popescu: is it good ?
decimation: I wonder why usg & hmg bother to pay "spies" to ... secretly watch ebay auctions
asciilifeform: one of my first job interviews out of uni. telephone. a fellow from one of the giant gov. contractors was really intrigued that i know x86 asm., have reversed crud for money. i ask him 'what's the job'. he: automated reversing. me: of what. he: ever hear of karatsuba's algo? me: sure. bignum mult. him: well, we wanna find encryption softs on terrorist drives!
asciilifeform: me: why would terrorist run ms-win. he: they will always, trust me.
asciilifeform: so now we see that these (likely same, but usg never commissions just one turd of a particular variety) idiots did indeed crap out something like a $1B version of 'ida hexray.'
asciilifeform: this is the most riotously funny nsa turd yet.
asciilifeform: bar none.
mircea_popescu: enjoyment is the mind killer.
chairforce1: im out, thanks for the ups
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 660 @ 0.00275057 = 1.8154 BTC [-] {7}
decimation: asciilifeform: http://norvig.com/python-lisp.html < educational for a python programmer like me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 15 @ 0.03507553 = 0.5261 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 238 @ 0.00281994 = 0.6711 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 95 @ 0.18023998 = 17.1228 BTC [-] {13}
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