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BingoBoingo: "They directed more than one company involved to send a rescission offer to all the investors—a multipage document telling them they could choose to immediately recoup their money, with 6 percent interest, if they pulled out. The rescission offer revealed a dire fiscal situation."
BingoBoingo: "According to the balance sheets of one company, Mofco Group, $1.2 million had been spent on “site construction” and $3.3 million on “other development costs,” and yet the site in Bushnell lay essentially empty. More important, there was only $65,541 cash on hand; most of the $15 million-plus that Moffitt had raised was gone. "
BingoBoingo: "An Amish friend unconnected to the Florida Thing once said to me, “You think your life is complicated and ours is simple, but it’s the opposite. You just take everything as it comes. We’re constantly having to figure out what to do with new things.” As an Amish man told Donald Kraybill, “The Amish survived persecution in Europe, but I’m not sure they’ll be able to survive prosperity.”"
BingoBoingo: !up AndChat|679296
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00081877 = 3.4798 BTC [-]
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 226 Ask: 300 Last Price: 226 24h-Vol: 586k High: 300 Low: 199 VWAP: 277
BingoBoingo: OMFG! Did the F.MPIF PC1 statement really move the ATC market that much???
Apocalyptic: looks like BingoBoingo
Apocalyptic: no ask depth
BingoBoingo: Well, things happen...
atcbot: 39k@330 30k@320 30k@300 | 47k@226 907k@199 750k@175
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell artifexd You interested in further business???
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ThickAsThieves: WTB ATC in bulk, pm
BingoBoingo: I remember what happened last time I tried to crush a bubble. If mother fuckers want to burn themselves out, I can wait this time.
assbot: If I was pitching, after Sandoval shook his first 'round the bases after homering for the 1st time in a month, somebody's getting a bruise.
benkay: <jborkl> first stage of remote address and balance query www.bcoinnews.com/addr // pardon?
BingoBoingo: !up jborkl
BingoBoingo: benkay: How is the bedtime mandate working out?
jborkl: Thank you
jborkl: To find out about a bitcoin address that is not yours is a challenge
jborkl: So that is the first part, about a week and it will complete
BingoBoingo: !up Poffertje
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021760 BTC (Total: 435.21 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10740 @ 0.00081877 = 8.7936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3944 @ 0.00081801 = 3.2262 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13143 @ 0.00081788 = 10.7494 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12296 @ 0.0008176 = 10.0532 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: If Beer Could Talk - CollegeHumor Post
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 5500 @ 0.0003476 = 1.9118 BTC [+] {9}
BingoBoingo: ENOUGH! What is wrong with you all? All I want is a drink that gets me drunk, doesn't taste like water, and doesn't fill me up so fast I start to hate it halfway through. Is that really too much to ask?
BingoBoingo: Jim Beam
BingoBoingo: Step into my office, son.
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 474760.46 in 834 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -7.18
BingoBoingo: !up Clue_
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00081877 = 1.9241 BTC [+]
assbot: Community renewed by Yahoo for sixth season; movie to follow?
punkman: Yahoo: now with dying TV shows
BingoBoingo: punkman: Everyone know that Yahoo's brand of death only welcomes other members of the dead
punkman: BingoBoingo: I wonder how many people still pay $299 to be listed in the Yahoo Directory
BingoBoingo: punkman: In three years, once the blog has been living on its own hardware for a while... That might be the time to throw Yahoo some pity pennies.
BingoBoingo: Yahoo might actually be a more accomplished internet troll than Weev.
cazalla: it wasn't a bad paid link back in the day
cazalla: yahoo + dmoz was some good link juice
BingoBoingo: Indeed, but that was then.
cazalla: plus they would forget to remove the link after you paid for a year so it was typically a one off payment for perma link
BingoBoingo: Now the "search engine leader" drops weight from nearly any link more than 3 or 4 years old.
punkman: "On September 18, 2012, following years of negotiations, Yahoo agreed to sell a 20% stake back to Alibaba for $7.6 billion."
punkman: how much will that 20% be worth when Alibaba IPOs
punkman: 40% stake in Alibaba was probably the only good thing in their portfolio
BingoBoingo: For sure
punkman: "potential $221 billion valuation for Alibaba post-IPO." > so around $45 billion
punkman: they still have some left
BingoBoingo: Alibaba might actually have a greater value than google
punkman: yeah but it's such a shithole
BingoBoingo: Since this site has been linked before http://www.crazymeds.us/CrazyTalk/index.php/topic/24923-college-degrees-expertise/ << moar credentials than all of reddit
assbot: College Degrees / Expertise? - Small Talk - Crazy Talk: The Crazymeds Forum
BingoBoingo: punkman: But Alibaba actually moves shit
BingoBoingo: Alibaba is to small businesses what warehouse stores used to be
BingoBoingo: And then there's what it is for larger businesses
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 70 @ 0.0355 = 2.485 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.0355 = 1.704 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell bitstein What is up with the Satoshi institute surrendering to Disqus???
gribble: The operation succeeded.
punkman: and then there's the planned IPO, which might be the biggest IPO yet on NYSE
BingoBoingo: punkman: Well look what alibaba does compared to what Google or Facebook does.
punkman: yeah I'm with you
BingoBoingo: The later two traffic information. Alibaba enables and smooths actual commerce.
punkman: Alibaba does everything
BingoBoingo: Many merchants are shitty on Alibaba, but... A lot of people like consuming and reselling shit.
BingoBoingo: Then yes, alibaba exapands into everything, provided there is an opportunity for them to take a cut of the action.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 643.91, Best ask: 646.45, Bid-ask spread: 2.54000, Last trade: 643.26, 24 hour volume: 7923.31032274, 24 hour low: 638.0, 24 hour high: 658.88, 24 hour vwap: 648.69748606
BingoBoingo: !up HeySteve
BingoBoingo: !up manamex
BingoBoingo: !up trixisowned
trixisowned: dump more litecoin
trixisowned: its useless
trixisowned: why are you holding it
trixisowned: if you are
punkman: won't find a lot of lite coin here
punkman: we like em thick
trixisowned: eh i just loling at litecoiners
BingoBoingo: Eh, I have some on a paper wallet somewhere
BingoBoingo: As kind of a hedge against an SHA-2 apocalypse.
BingoBoingo: The current litecoin crash really doesn't affect it though.
punkman: I got some doge on a retired disk, hoping doge will stop existing so I don't have to ever dig them out
BingoBoingo: That's about the story of altcoins other than Altcoin
manamex: is litecoin finally going down?
pankkake: BingoBoingo: it makes no sense and I am tired of this argument. … I'll reply to it when I get to finishing that article
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well it sounded like a better idea early last year... Now... Eh
BingoBoingo: Maybe eventually I redeem the LTC at 44 satoshis per agains $10k BTC
BingoBoingo: ATM even touching them is too much work
assbot: Yahoos Alibaba Windfall Means Firepower to Chase Google - Bloomberg
BingoBoingo: Shame noone in "business journalism" has the balls to suggest yahoo just sell what it can and return capital to investors.
pankkake: lol the litecoin bagholders quickly censored me again
punkman: BingoBoingo: need higher number of company
pankkake: reddit's censorship is clearly devious; you're never alerted, you don't know who does it, and you only see it by logging out
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Eh, they prolly paid more for their LTC than I did
punkman: so they will go buy out some random websites and close them down without making a profit
BingoBoingo: I say prolly because I dun remember what I bought LTC at
BingoBoingo: punkman: Yahoo might as well
BingoBoingo: Just close down with what it has.
BingoBoingo: Sell what the derps will buy and then... just quit
punkman: that'd be better than buying more shoes for Marissa
BingoBoingo: Maybe they even sell the Yahoo brand and some other venture lets the media imagine "Yahoo" survived
punkman: Yahoo Japan should buy Yahoo
BingoBoingo: Maybe Alibaba will buy Yahoo?
assbot: LTC we stand ! (To investors and trolls) : : litecoin
punkman: hmm, yahoo only paid $1 billion for their Alibaba share in 2005
punkman: that's some nice profit there
BingoBoingo: pankkake: LTC was only ever good as a hedge against an incredibly unlikely threat to BTC, and as a way for people who don't game to justify owning gaming hardware.
pankkake: again, no, and that was discussed here before. it does not protect against any threat
pankkake: nor is affordable by 13 year old gamers anymore
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Last year it seemed like that might be the case for a short time to a n00b
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Ying / Yang
BingoBoingo: Christians / Protestant
BingoBoingo: Suni / Shiite
BingoBoingo: Mac / PC
BingoBoingo: Coca-cola / Pepsi <<lol
BingoBoingo might have ma de a mistake
pankkake: I suppose Mac is Litecoin; it "doesn't have viruses"
BingoBoingo: SHA coins are Europe and Scrypt coins are the Middle east post Arab spring
cazalla: coblee is borderline scammer imo going to conferences, forums etc calling it silver
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/156AQ96.txt )
BingoBoingo: Yes, for sure
assbot: Adobe Ink, Adobe Slide: New tools that promise to improve drawing on tablets.
BingoBoingo: "Without any keyboard or mouse or USB ports, went the critique, the iPad would turn us into passive gobblers of commercial content. We’d read stuff, watch stuff, and listen to stuff that was spoon-fed to us. But we’d never make any stuff of our own." << exactly what happened
BingoBoingo: Then again people have been doing that since Windows 3.1
punkman: people do try to make stuff on ipads, but it's usually a novelty, "o look what I drew with mah pad"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00081754 = 13.3668 BTC [-]
punkman: "o hey dude awesome. it sucks, but I LOVE PADS"
assbot: Our Incredible Journey
assbot: Our Incredible Journey : What is an incredible journey?
punkman: amazing hourney
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
BingoBoingo: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
BingoBoingo: ^ more created with a line of text than iPad fat fingers
punkman: I've been using a smartassphone since I dropped my awesome dumbphone in the toilet. I don't know how anyone can type or click anything on a touchscreen, most aggravating thing ever.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.0008187 = 19.7307 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: I actually kind miss my Blackberry from time to time... Then I remember how much Android sucked and cuddle with my beautiful flip phone
pankkake: me neither. I have a e-reader that has a touch screen, even touching to change the page… meh
pankkake: I bought a stylus
pankkake: still selecting words is a pain
punkman: decided between cheapest nokia and cheapest samsung dumbphone on local website
punkman: *deciding
punkman: maybe I want to hack on Symbian with 384kb RAM
assbot: Valiant prince MP explores the mother of all echo chambers. A saga of our times. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: Symbian S40 could have been decent
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00082208 = 4.8503 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00081835 = 1.5549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00082087 = 6.3617 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00081768 = 12.8376 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00082265 = 5.6763 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00082251 = 6.5801 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00082033 = 2.8712 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00082033 = 3.1583 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4157 @ 0.00082265 = 3.4198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03571 = 0.7142 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00081988 = 6.723 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 66 @ 0.04729069 = 3.1212 BTC [+] {19}
kyuupichan: ;;nethash
gribble: 113226931.256
ThickAsThieves: ;;bcstats
gribble: Current Blocks: 308874 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1589 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 8 hours, 24 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15890581764.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -5.51703
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00008117 = 0.8117 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14028 @ 0.00008202 = 1.1506 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00081951 = 1.2702 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: hash ratebeing removed from network?
ThickAsThieves: doubtful, could be hashing going from testing to delivery, or just luck phenomena at this new diff
ThickAsThieves: or summer heat issues
ThickAsThieves: who knows
ThickAsThieves: watch it turn up in a few days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00082327 = 11.32 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.03599999 = 0.576 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: got the hackrf in mail today
Mats_cd03 rubs hands together gleefully
assbot: And the winner is.../TimDraper. Well done, Tim. Don't go spending all your bitcoin in one place. But if you do...https://t.co/JprUxGrxFs
ThickAsThieves: i'm getting deja vu
ThickAsThieves: !s draper
fluffypony: lol @ that tweet
fluffypony: "cutie pie"
ThickAsThieves: i almost said 'you coy motherfucker' instead
assbot: Draper Fisher Jurvetson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
fluffypony: well with $7 billion in assets I suppose they have the money to throw at 30k BTC
assbot: Why venture capitalist Tim Draper wants to divide California into six states (interview) | VentureBeat | Business | by Dean Takahashi
ThickAsThieves: VB: Are there any sectors or companies you’re most excited about?
fluffypony: that tie
ThickAsThieves: "I like bitcoin. Bitcoin could really transform all of the currencies of the world. It could end up being a way for money to move much faster. Money moving faster means more liquidity, which means more wealth for the whole world, more deals. If I make a deal with you, we’re both better off. We can make those deals better and faster with bitcoin. That’s exciting."
assbot: Bitcoin startup CoinLab lands funding from Tim Draper and others, aims to help monetize games - GeekWire
ThickAsThieves: So Draper's been in this for a long time
ThickAsThieves: USMS has not responded to my email yet, the nerve!
fluffypony: call them names
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 58 @ 0.03599999 = 2.088 BTC [+]
assbot: Exclusive: Venture capitalist Draper wins U.S. Marshals bitcoin auction: Vaurum - Yahoo News
ThickAsThieves: "With the help of Vaurum and this newly purchased bitcoin, we expect to be able to create new services that can provide liquidity and confidence to markets that have been hamstrung by weak currencies," Draper said in the statement.
ThickAsThieves: The statement was issued by Vaurum, a Palo Alto-based company that facilitates over-the-counter bitcoin trading for financial institutions and high-net-worth traders, of which Draper is a major backer.
ThickAsThieves: no price...
assbot: Tim Draper Wins Govt Auction, Partners With Vaurum to Provide Bitcoin Liquidity in Emerging Markets Medium
fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=672170.0 <- is this dude's plan to just continuously bump his post with smileys?
assbot: P2PSLOT:Super-cheap stock in exchange for global development
ThickAsThieves: this leaking of tiny bits of info each day is annoying
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.000092 = 0.92 BTC [+]
assbot: Vaurum - A Robust Bitcoin Exchange for Financial Institutions
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.000092 = 0.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14399 @ 0.000092 = 1.3247 BTC [+]
punkman: they also own bitme.com , here's their guy on the forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=56571;sa=showPosts
assbot: Latest posts of: freewil
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00081951 = 2.4176 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00081951 = 10.7766 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.11111111 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 32(Y):68(N) by coin, 34(Y):66(N) by weight. Total bet: 19.77624304 BTC. Current weight: 49,780.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00081951 = 9.6702 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Charlie Shrem will discuss the lessons he has learned at the American Banker Digital Currencies convention in NYC"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00081788 = 10.0599 BTC [-] {3}
pankkake: ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 480.0, Best ask: 481.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 480.0, 24 hour volume: 132.01373316, 24 hour low: 466.0, 24 hour high: 480.0, 24 hour vwap: 475.06360682
xmj: fluffypony: damn milli malikas.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00082022 = 6.2337 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4162 @ 0.00081646 = 3.3981 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Russian authorities have softened their tone on Bitcoin; the central bank now says it won't hamper the usage of the virtual currency whereas previously it had vowed to crack down on the electronic payment instrument."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 157 @ 0.03599999 = 5.652 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: how things have changed: http://coinlab.com/
assbot: CoinLab
ThickAsThieves: reduced to a logo and 3 sentences
assbot: Bitcoin Vault
assbot: How Government Forces the Poor Into Black Markets - Peter St. Onge - Mises Daily
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 37 @ 0.01436147 = 0.5314 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 192 @ 0.0149859 = 2.8773 BTC [+] {5}
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 654.0, Best ask: 654.03, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 654.0, 24 hour volume: 6759.24045494, 24 hour low: 638.0, 24 hour high: 658.88, 24 hour vwap: 648.468393708
ThickAsThieves: $300k bid order at top of bitstamp
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 85 @ 0.015 = 1.275 BTC [+]
pankkake: I'm no longer a bagholder!
Duffer1: congratulations
kyuupichan: ThickAsThieves: All the govts are capitulating. Or are they? Not sure what it means.
kyuupichan: My exahash bet suddenly jumped from obscurity to be a high roller.
ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
gribble: 114342067.865
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4337 @ 0.00081646 = 3.541 BTC [-]
mike_c: !isitdown blockchain.info
pankkake: !up blockchain.info
pankkake: there, I fixed it
mike_c: (i actually checked)
pankkake: it works for me
mike_c: not for me, and apparently not for gribble
pankkake: oh, maybe cloudflare breaking the API again
kakobrekla: no worky here
ThickAsThieves: antonopolous says DNS issues
pankkake: if only dns was a protocol with resiliency and caching built into it
pankkake: host blockchain.info
artifexd: ;;later tell BingoBoingo Sure.
pankkake: Host blockchain.info not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pankkake: well indeed
artifexd: ThickAsThieves: Are you really looking to buy some ATC or were you making a joke?
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 24.77624304 BTC. Current weight: 49,768.
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 228 Ask: 300 Last Price: 228 24h-Vol: 621k High: 300 Low: 199 VWAP: 279
kakobrekla: ;;seen mircea_popescu
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> as a bare minimum
kakobrekla: where did he vanish to?
pankkake: ;;seen mp_on_a_boat
gribble: mp_on_a_boat was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <mp_on_a_boat> anyway, off i go. late trall!
pankkake: ;;seen mp_*
gribble: mp_* could be mp_a_colonia (20 hours, 14 minutes, and 50 seconds ago), mp_on_a_pony (1 day, 17 hours, 39 minutes, and 46 seconds ago), or mp_on_a_boat (1 day, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 32 seconds ago)
kakobrekla: they have boats there?
ThickAsThieves: btw Blockchain users can use http://blockchain.com to access wallets, while we resolve the .info domain problems
assbot: Bitcoin Block Explorer - Blockchain.info
artifexd: ;;ident ThickAsThieves
gribble: Nick 'ThickAsThieves', with hostmask 'ThickAsThieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves', is identified as user 'ThickAsThieves', with GPG key id B28732FE807495EC, key fingerprint D649FD3B664A6BCF801D727EB28732FE807495EC, and bitcoin address 1NfXM69erAWPDdNrZ2k2UkuV7HDPc6Ebwk
mthreat: colonia is in uruguay, across the river from buenos aires
artifexd: ;;rated ThickAsThieves
gribble: You have not yet rated user ThickAsThieves
kakobrekla: o so they finally got the .com
kakobrekla: amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
pankkake: how you can trust it's really them?
kakobrekla: good pointz
xmj: ;;rated fluffypony
gribble: You have not yet rated user fluffypony
xmj: ;;rate fluffypony 2 good chap. drinks milli malikas without batting an eye.
gribble: Error: You do not meet qualifications for entering ratings.
xmj: uh what!
xmj: what do i do to get to rate someone?
mike_c: ;;ident xmj
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.03627 = 0.6166 BTC [+]
gribble: Nick 'xmj', with hostmask 'xmj!~xmj@freebsd/developer/xmj', is identified as user 'xmj', with GPG key id FC9E29371B1B0D0B, key fingerprint 224ED70AA3AE3EF123B0CA88FC9E29371B1B0D0B, and bitcoin address None
artifexd: ;;gettrust xmj
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask xmj!~xmj@freebsd/developer/xmj. Trust relationship from user artifexd to user xmj: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=artifexd&dest=xmj | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xmj | Rated since: Fri May 23 01:38:16 2014
mike_c: ah. you must have net positive ratings to rate other people, right?
xmj: benkay: yes
artifexd: He does
xmj: wait
xmj: so, i rate people. that decreases my future ability to rate people ?
ThickAsThieves: ;;rate artifexd 2 quick and easy OTC ATC
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user artifexd has been recorded.
xmj: ;;rate fluffypony 1 good chap. drinks milli malikas without batting an eye.
gribble: Error: You do not meet qualifications for entering ratings.
artifexd: ;;rate ThickAsThieves 3 Long history of doing what he said. And he bought some ATC.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user ThickAsThieves has been recorded.
xmj: great, so mircea_popescu made me not be able to rate anyone soon
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
ThickAsThieves: punkman were you saying you are looking for odd programming jobs? I wanna get some Altcoin wallet work done
thestringpuller: ;;rated ThickAsThieves
gribble: You rated user ThickAsThieves on Sat May 3 13:01:40 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Has good taste in hip-hop..
thestringpuller: ;;rated mike_c
gribble: You have not yet rated user mike_c
mike_c: artifexd: you must have positive rating to nanotube
mike_c: ;;gettrust nanotube xmj
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask xmj!~xmj@freebsd/developer/xmj. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user xmj: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=xmj | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xmj | Rated since: Fri May 23 01:38:16 2014
davout: thestringpuller: good taste in hip hop sounds like an oxymoron
davout: :D
artifexd: ;;gettrust nanotube mircea_popescu
xmj: davout: 2pac
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 45 via 31 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
thestringpuller: like Daft Punk?
punkman: ThickAsThieves: C/C++ not really my thing, but I'd give it a look
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust nanotube thestringpuller
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user thestringpuller: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=thestringpuller | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=thestringpuller | Rated since: Mon Oct 15 18:46:37 2012
artifexd: mp is the source of xmj's negrating
xmj: yeah
assbot: therealaltcoin/altcoin GitHub
xmj: i described how many of the startups use amazon web services.
xmj: he didn't like that very much, lol
artifexd: ;;gettrust nanotube artifexd
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask artifexd!sid28611@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uhyppksdfawgdwyb. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user artifexd: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=artifexd | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=artifexd | Rated since: Wed Mar 5 02:06:14 2014
ThickAsThieves: the source is currently more up to date than the packages
ThickAsThieves: i'd like a windows wallet made from the source
pankkake: xmj: mp replied "no soup for you"
xmj: well thats too bad.
ThickAsThieves: but also would like to integrate mike_c 's new seeds. subdomain thing
mike_c: that would be great.. not sure we ever got the dns sorted.
ThickAsThieves: i'm also open to requests from others for features or polish to take care of for ATC stuff
artifexd: xmj: See if you can get MagicalTux to posrate you. That would offset mp's negrate.
ThickAsThieves: if you want that work and whatever work that probly turns into, lemme know a price or estimate or such
xmj: interesting.
artifexd: That was a joke. Seriously though, if what mike_c says is correct, then anyone (with a positive rating) on this list could assist: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=nanotube&sign=ANY&type=SENT
assbot: Rating Details for User 'nanotube'
ThickAsThieves: ;;rate nanotube 2 thanks for all the tubes!
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user nanotube has been recorded.
xmj: artifexd: do you know what MT does professionally?
artifexd: Are you kidding?
mike_c: magicaltux = mark karpeles.
artifexd: I don't think MagicalTux does anything "professionally"
pankkake: ;;rated MagicalTux
gribble: You rated user MagicalTux on Thu Feb 27 08:13:53 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: ate all the coins.
artifexd: Using any reasonable definition of "professionally"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 63 @ 0.03627 = 2.285 BTC [+]
artifexd: xmj: Learn to use the WOT. Seriously. 30 seconds of perusing http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=magicaltux would have told you all you need to know.
assbot: Rating Details for User 'magicaltux'
xmj: hah
xmj: i'm bad with names.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 52 @ 0.037 = 1.924 BTC [+]
xmj: artifexd: i'll assume you were trolling when you suggested i make up with him to counter mp's downvote..
artifexd: Trolling? No. Joking? Yeah. Hence my next line started with "That was a joke. Seriously though...."
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Facebook Myspace'd" http://bitbet.us/bet/771/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 34(Y):66(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.64011533 BTC. Current weight: 62,414.
xmj: artifexd: hrm, it's one of those days, didn't see that.
artifexd: No worries. Take a breath. Regroup. Learn to use the tools at your disposal (brain, eyes, wot, google). Come back stronger, better.
xmj: heh
xmj: I blame myself for drinking tequila with fluffypony yesterday.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.037 = 1.147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00081646 = 8.2054 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: a well that was pretty epic
assbot: Photo of /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash history happening. http://t.co/qDHNaHY4LC
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: voyage?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i met this girl.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete that instagram doesn't load anything for me. what is it ?
assbot: Instagram
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin history!
ThickAsThieves: amazing history!
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mircea_popescu: 3 guys in a corner office, that one ?
asciilifeform: looks like some fellas in a garrett talking to soviet bureaucrat
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: it's tim's kid taking a picture of his dad and two younger … ya
ThickAsThieves: thats the auction weiner
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 653.92, Best ask: 654.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.07000, Last trade: 654.0, 24 hour volume: 7165.73170950, 24 hour low: 638.0, 24 hour high: 658.75, 24 hour vwap: 649.402772905
mircea_popescu: all that collapse and shit.
bitcoinpete: almost $10 again
ThickAsThieves: Dow almost 17k
ThickAsThieves: SP almost 2k
ThickAsThieves: s'all good in the hood
assbot: Betting On Big Drop, Shorts Borrow All the GoPro Stock They Can - MoneyBeat - WSJ
bitcoinpete: "the percentage of shares available to loan that are actually being borrowed–is near 100%,"
asciilifeform: what is so nice about the camera?
bitcoinpete: mostly the accessories
bitcoinpete: mounting clips for everything and anything
bitcoinpete: add sponsorships, mix, ipo
ThickAsThieves: nothing, that's the short answer
ThickAsThieves: whole thing could be upheaved by a well-placed kickstarter project
mircea_popescu: dem barriers to entry.
benkay: no one expects the kickstarter upheaval!
mircea_popescu: this is the lulzy thing about "headcount-based" ipos and perception of value :
mircea_popescu: it's basically dotcom bubble v2.0. nothing easier to fake than headcount. except perhaps clicks.
mircea_popescu: and when i say fake, i include things such as, every year it gets easier and easier to amass headcunt, provided you promise you'll never charge a cent.
mircea_popescu: which is exactly what tat's saying : whole thing can now be upheaved by a well placed kickstarter
mircea_popescu: that doesn't mean kickstarters are valuable. it just means shit like gopro and airbnb are valueLESS
pankkake: most companies I've been in have two kind of headcounts. the real one and the investors one - both being from real data
mthreat: gopro sells actual hardware
mircea_popescu: mthreat not really. they dropship some gear some azn companies designed, made and assembled.
mircea_popescu: much like apple.
mthreat: their marketing seems to be similar to red bull (extreme sports marketing)
mthreat: so red bull just sells sugar + caffeine + water
mircea_popescu: the reason that shit works for coca cola (and immitators, a la red bull)
ThickAsThieves: however i wouldnt touch GPRO with a 10ft pole, way too many people thinking the same thing at opposite poles
mircea_popescu: is that sugared water with some pee in it is really trivial to make, so the entire product is the package.
mircea_popescu: this doth not work for anything that's an actual service. to be coca cola you have to be both valueless AND pointless.
mircea_popescu: !up Clue
ThickAsThieves: all it takes is GS to sum em up and issue a BUY rating at $100
ThickAsThieves: squeeze all them shorts and sell out at the same time
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know this polarization problem is perhaps the largest pile of conclusive proof that the official indicators are all fake.
mircea_popescu: in general a working economy exists to close the zero-infinity price window
mircea_popescu: when that window widens, the economy necessarily is losing contanct.
ThickAsThieves: increasing qty of articles about low volume lately
ThickAsThieves: just traders trading traders
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 340 Ask: 347 Last Price: 340 24h-Vol: 771k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 287
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 534763.34 in 616 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 4.55
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00081646 = 1.6329 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: wow. atc stabilization ?
mircea_popescu: look at that ThickAsThieves your baby lives.
ThickAsThieves: WoL can't hurt
punkman: oh nice game #10 is finished
punkman: should have bought more death
mircea_popescu: buy all teh deth.
bitcoinpete: "The European Court of Human Rights on Tuesday upheld France's ban on wearing full-face veils in public, rejecting arguments that the ban undermines freedoms of religion and expression."
mike_c: stabilization is a bit strong. it's been running slow the last couple weeks, and is now running quite fast.
mike_c: pool hoppers might be back.
mircea_popescu: mike_c im just looking at the diff %
mircea_popescu: Est. % Change: 4.55 is what it is. it didn't have a period like this in 3 months
mike_c: yeah, it's close to 0 now because (2 weeks slow) + (1 day really fast) = little change
mike_c: i am just a lowly merchant wishing for something closer to actual stabilization. but that is unrealistic for a baby coin.
mircea_popescu: i thought you were my sock puppet. when did this merchant thing happen
mike_c: hehe. sock puppets can have day jobs
mircea_popescu: o no wait, that was pankkake. i got the fake identities mixed up
mike_c: i had to check. of course, it exists. babycoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389832.0
assbot: [IDEA] BabyCoin
mircea_popescu: !up GinAddict1
GinAddict1: thanks Mircea
GinAddict1: (and everyone else)
mircea_popescu: now who miught you be ?
GinAddict1: oh, I'm Lawrence from GreenAddress, temporarily using this user in vacation
mircea_popescu: aha. welcome.
GinAddict1: Hi, thank you!
ThickAsThieves: The safer Bitcoin wallet that puts you in control
mircea_popescu: !up jonvaage
Naphex: o/
GinAddict1: ThickAsThieves: yep - bad/good slogan for a multisig service you reckon?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i don't recal, were we hating this thing
GinAddict1: there was a blog post by pete
GinAddict1: a bit of hate maybe but we spoke a bit and it was a very reasonable conversation
GinAddict1: I actually came here for feedback so it would be great if you had any criticism
ThickAsThieves: slogan is okay i suppose
GinAddict1: I also wanted to tell Pete that someone is using his blogpost to spread FUD but i see he just got disconnected
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00081646 = 16.1659 BTC [-]
GinAddict1: mircea_popescu: we def had a really bad start, initially there was some marketing/dev mismatch and in our home we even said "Hack proof" when i actually wanted to say "Improved security"
GinAddict1: of course nothing is hack proof
GinAddict1: maybe death :)
mircea_popescu: GinAddict1 so when you say lawrence from greenaddress what do you actualy mean ? you code ? you manage ? you pr ? what ?
ThickAsThieves: all, i bet
GinAddict1: I'm the founder, I code, I manage, I PR but more than anything I'm a bitcoiner first
kakobrekla: i bet, all.
assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3BQ7Y3E.txt )
GinAddict1: but coding wise i'm the least contributor
GinAddict1: mostly architecture and design
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.66972768 BTC to 11`168 shares, 14951 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you gotta bet faster
mircea_popescu: ty for gracious donation to ba
GinAddict1: what is ba if i may ask? bitcoin average?
mircea_popescu: ya kno ?
GinAddict1: oh, sorry, dumb me
mircea_popescu: so then who miscomunicated with whom ?
GinAddict1: you mean my earlier mention of someone using Pete's blog post?
assbot: GreenAddress hiding bad feedback? More proof to point towards it. : Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: specifically, " there was some marketing/dev mismatch"
GinAddict1: i miscommunicated with my graphic designer and in a table on the home there was a column called Hack proof instead of "Improved security"
ThickAsThieves: lol Hearn wins $100k bounty from reddit for software to replace BTCFundnation
GinAddict1: english not being first language for neither of us
assbot: $100,000 bounty winner announcement! : Bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: with software he was making already anyway
GinAddict1: ThickAsThieves: I saw that, is Mike foundation friendly or? has he agreed? I don't see comments of his in the reddit post
ThickAsThieves: Mike has agreed to release the platform as open source before the end of August. He will be awarded $40,000 on completion. After the platform is live, I will put an additional $50,000 towards the first core dev crowdfunding project that gets made on it. This should help them become independent the moment it gets released, and hopefully will start streamlining Bitcoin core development
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so reddit pays to replace phlegm with cancer ?
ThickAsThieves: $10k goes to the runner up
ThickAsThieves: who suggested DAO system on Ethereum
mircea_popescu: this is so much lol.
ThickAsThieves: Does Draper's Purchase of BTC for Vaurum Add to the Total Venture Capital Balance?
asciilifeform: Hearn?!
mircea_popescu: GinAddict1 mike is the chief enemy plant in bitcoin. he's the guy that merged heartbleed in bitcoin for absolutely no legitimatereason, and he's the guy that forced a hard fork, idem.
mircea_popescu: he's basically mata hari.
asciilifeform: insult to hari, who was a pretty gurl and added valuez.
GinAddict1: mircea_popescu: there's more coming: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4351
assbot: Add a getutxos command to the p2p protocol by mikehearn Pull Request #4351 bitcoin/bitcoin GitHub
GinAddict1: I don't think it is a good idea at all to have it
GinAddict1: but according to others core devs it's been narrowed to the point that the obviously harmful stuff is gone
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im sure there must be a fatass white boi market somewhere.
ThickAsThieves: at it least it aint obviously harmful!
ThickAsThieves: high-five!
mircea_popescu: don't knock it, whatever the pr0n, someone's rubbing to it.
GinAddict1: ThickAsThieves: sigh right?
mircea_popescu: GinAddict1 wait, is this one of those "let nsa put some bugs in, then take out the visible ones and it's good to go" sorta deal ?
mircea_popescu: nothing signed by gmaxwell may ever be merged. into anything. period.
GinAddict1: sorry i don't get the reference to gmaxwell and this one is .. about trusting untrusted nodes i guess
mircea_popescu: and in general, this bullshit where plants can coexist because us born engineers are cockless ended last year.
mircea_popescu: i keep lists, i kill people.
mircea_popescu: ask andreas.
ThickAsThieves: oh wait, you cant!
GinAddict1: right
GinAddict1: you can't
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves wasn't that supposed t obe "you cunt" ?
GinAddict1: he cunt?
GinAddict1: right, can I not be put on a kill list please
ThickAsThieves: i wanna know the legal deets about why i dont know this auction price yet
GinAddict1: ThickAsThieves: apparently we may find out with a FOIA request in a bit
GinAddict1: like a few months
ThickAsThieves: obnoxious
ThickAsThieves: i emailed them, cant they just reply
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves they're protecting themselves as best they can.
ThickAsThieves: hmm i guess that makes sense
ThickAsThieves: use formal channels
thestringpuller: !up GinAddict1
GinAddict1: thanks thestringpuller
thestringpuller: yay it's like friday I get to read more lulz
thestringpuller: via reddits
thestringpuller: ~_~ oh reddit, i love how stupid you are
GinAddict1: do you prefer reddit or bitcointalk?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11685 @ 0.0008162 = 9.5373 BTC [-] {3}
GinAddict1: also, does anyone know fdroid and do you like it as an alternative to the play store?
danielpbarron: 12:25:16 <+GinAddict1> do you prefer reddit or bitcointalk? << i prefer irc and twitter
assbot: S.NSA, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: !s fdroid
mircea_popescu: believe it or not you're the first to mention it.
danielpbarron: i met kyuupichan at porcfest last week
mircea_popescu: !up kyuupichan
danielpbarron: we were the only two people there that were already in -assets as far as i could tell
danielpbarron: ;;rated kyuupichan
gribble: You rated user kyuupichan on Mon Jun 23 16:29:30 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: met at porcfest https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/481122040217616384.
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot kyuupichan
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask kyuupichan!~Neil@z182045.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp. Trust relationship from user assbot to user kyuupichan: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=kyuupichan | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kyuupichan | Rated since: Mon Jun 23 16:20:19 2014
assbot: F-Droid | Free and Open Source Android App Repository
mircea_popescu: a ok. i just met him cause he commented on my word cup bitch.
GinAddict1: we're submitting our app to that
danielpbarron: he told me he couldn't get voiced and i literally lol'd
danielpbarron: I told him i'd give him a +2 for meeting face-to-face
mircea_popescu: did you lord it over him at least ?
danielpbarron: we talked about mpex quite a bit
danielpbarron: I don't know if that conversation was meant to be private but i'd like him to bring it up in here
mircea_popescu: all about how it sux ?
danielpbarron will neither confirm nor deny that guess
mircea_popescu: you're ready for a job at usms
mircea_popescu: you got teh basics
danielpbarron: and I met btc_trader from -otc
danielpbarron: bought some of my fiat on my way out
danielpbarron: and that's the end of the list of gribble users at porcfest lol
danielpbarron: oh and I accidentally scammed someone
danielpbarron: he sold me a paper wallet that he had already imported into his phone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00081605 = 2.1625 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: and i got ahold of some of his change
assbot: S.NSA, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00081563 = 10.6848 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: i attended the gpg key signing party; half the users that showed up were running windows
danielpbarron: didn't end up acutally signing any keys
danielpbarron: they spent most of the time settng up some portable key server
mircea_popescu: jesus god.
mircea_popescu: where was this ?
mircea_popescu: i won't even sign keys hosted on windows, wtf.
danielpbarron: all the while I was trying to convince them to just use my flash drive or better yet, get in the WoT with gribble
mircea_popescu: !up sHINOBI_CZ
danielpbarron: it was at the Porcupine Freedom Festival in Lancaster, New Hampshire, USA
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's next? we sell folks beta parachutes?
mircea_popescu: tell the guy, not me.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: gpg key signing party; half the users that showed up were running windows << lol!!
danielpbarron: i found a few individuals there who might do the right thing and get in the WoT
danielpbarron: the guy i accidentally ripped off is in the WoT now, user named GunPlay
GinAddict1: does anyone here use specialized hardware for gpg or just your favourite flavor of *nix ?
danielpbarron: i use old hardware running openbsd
GinAddict1: old on purpose or by chance? i.e. worried about some RNG in recent chips?=
danielpbarron: GinAddict1, a little of both; it's what I had left over from back when I used to be into computers, and I don't trust new hardware / don't know what's good now
mircea_popescu: GinAddict1 supposedly special hardware is being baked
danielpbarron: I like that all my hardware was built before Bitcoin existed
mircea_popescu: it'll be here two weeks ** two weeks.
danielpbarron: but i guess it all rests on entropy generation and that's been a target for longer than Bitcoin has existed
asciilifeform grunts, adjusts track width for the 601th time.
asciilifeform points out that entropy is a far more dire concern for signing than key generation, interestingly
danielpbarron: oh! and one of the webdevs from the Bitcoin magazine offered to publish an article if i were to write one for them
mircea_popescu: yeah best way to lose a key is through signing
GinAddict1: asciilifeform: for k? what if deterministic
asciilifeform: if deterministic, yer phucked
GinAddict1: asciilifeform: nope, still unique each time: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pornin-deterministic-dsa-00
assbot: 403 Forbidden
asciilifeform: GinAddict1: ah you were thinking of ecdsa/btc
GinAddict1: yes sorry
asciilifeform doesn't make btc hardware, contrary to popular belief in 'fan mail'
ThickAsThieves: The growth in customers accounts, for both Coinbase and competitor Blockchain, continues to grow at a pretty torrid rate. Mr. Armstrong said the company is seeing growth in its user base of about 3-4% a week, and has jumped from 100,000 accounts a year ago to about 1.4 million now.
ThickAsThieves: so many clicks!
assbot: Caveat Emptor On Goldman Sach's Call On Netflix - Netflix, Inc. (NASDAQ:NFLX) | Seeking Alpha
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves didn't think you were.
ThickAsThieves: just my first time getting done raw by GS
ThickAsThieves: i decided to just short more
mircea_popescu: what are you, dumb or something ? a fake market in which some banks play with infinite money, waht are you gonna do ?
mircea_popescu: go play the slots.
pankkake: bagshorting?
pankkake: I don't understand why anyone would listen to trading advice anyway
pankkake: at least, free, public trading advice
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> what are you, dumb or something ? probly, but i dont feel the sting just yet
mircea_popescu: pankkake now turn that around. do you understand why anyone'd listen to relationship advice ?
mircea_popescu: how about sex advice.
ThickAsThieves: and it is nice seeing other firms calling GS scammers the day after
ThickAsThieves: of course maybe thats how they want me to think
ThickAsThieves: dun dun dun
mircea_popescu: it makes zero sense, but women like to belong, and this is driven into them deeper than reason. so... they listen.
pankkake: there is every reason to withold good trading advice and publish bad trading advice
pankkake: not so for the others
mircea_popescu: you'll have to explain this to me.
ThickAsThieves: not entirely true p
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no but he knows you know ? 's not thought it through for two minutes, and yet :D
pankkake: if I tell women they should swallow, everyone benefits. if I tell they should buy the thing I plan to buy before them, I lose
mircea_popescu: pankkake uh.
mircea_popescu: you know what an ideology is, right ?
mircea_popescu: if you're supposed to be rich and the plebs poor, telling them to buy etc also everyone benefits.
mircea_popescu: "you all get what you all should get"
ThickAsThieves: but i get most!
mircea_popescu: most depends on a measuring stick dunnit.
ThickAsThieves: yep, like GS unloading all their NFLX this week
ThickAsThieves: is that kinda thing regulated?
ThickAsThieves: like issuing BUY status and then selling
mircea_popescu: it's regulated, yes. you can';t do it.
mircea_popescu: the govt's own banks are desperate for cash tho.
mircea_popescu: argentina;s in a better shape these days.
pankkake: https://www.contrepoints.org/2014/06/29/170453-bce-la-subvention-dont-personne-ne-parle found this very interesting, sorry for the French. it explains how the ECB lends money so they can go the "private sector" but does not check/punish if it does not happen
assbot: BCE : la subvention dont personne ne parle | Contrepoints
pankkake: effectively subsidizing out banks
mircea_popescu: there's no alternative.
gribble: What do you think I am, a shell?
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
thestringpuller: lol lag?
gribble: Current Blocks: 308906 | Current Difficulty: 16818461371.161 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1557 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 8 hours, 45 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16106703389.4 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.232
asciilifeform: ;;goxlag
gribble: Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.
pankkake: ;;canstringlag
gribble: Error: "canstringlag" is not a valid command.
mike_c: <+ThickAsThieves> yep, like GS unloading all their NFLX this week << no no, there's an invisible wall between the trading desk and the rating guys. they have NO IDEA what each other are doing. really, they promise!
asciilifeform: canstringlag << about (d / 6000) sec, d in metres, length of string, assuming steel cable ?
bitstein: Some ironic entertainment from Andreas Antonopolous: http://i.imgur.com/n6wGydz.png
assbot: double-conversion ups is neat - Imgur
thestringpuller: get da cryptocrypto coin
FabianB: $traded
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0385 = 0.9625 BTC [+]
pankkake: asciilifeform: does it tell you how efficient it is?
pankkake: I have UPSes but only the passive ones
asciilifeform: pankkake: sorta. if one knows arithmetic.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.03898887 = 1.1697 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: pankkake: this is one of those monsters where the inverter runs constantly. so, around 80% efficient.
pankkake: ouch, right. not sure I want to pay 20% extra
asciilifeform: pankkake: i moved to a street where the entire place shares a transformer. so, abysmal mains quality.
pankkake: I used to live in a place that fried my psus every few months
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 34 @ 0.0499985 = 1.6999 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: pankkake: this is the pill for it. the only voltages that ever come out of a double-conversion ups is zero (dead battery) or the specified (120 here) ac, sinusoidal to 1%
pankkake: well, the cheap ups I got at that time was enough, though it eventually died :)
asciilifeform: pankkake: the consumer boxes are typically 'switchover' - you're connected directly to the mains, except when the reading drops below mark and the inverter kicks in.
pankkake: yes, that's what the two I have seem to do. they go to battery sometimes even when there's no visible power cut
pankkake: so, I suppose it helps my hardware live a longer, happier life
asciilifeform: pankkake: the nice kind (double conv.) runs rectifier and inverter at all times, with the battery sitting in the middle
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.03949109 = 1.7771 BTC [+] {3}
pankkake: yes, I know, I just wondered how "worth it" it was
asciilifeform: depends where you live
benkay: 2 weeks lol
asciilifeform: and whether you really need your computer to run
pankkake: I'd rather invest in something with a big battery; I want the thing to stay up if I'm not there
asciilifeform: pankkake: this particular unit has a plug on the back for arbitrary number of cells
pankkake: oh, now that's great
asciilifeform: pankkake: you won't find this on a 'consumer' ups because their inverters aren't rated for 24/7 run
asciilifeform: (cooling issues)
pankkake: does it make noise?
asciilifeform: by default, yes
asciilifeform: and sure, there's a fan
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.059 = 0.531 BTC [+] {4}
asciilifeform: standard 80mm pc fan
pankkake: 80mm's okay… I hate the smaller ones
mircea_popescu: !up terp
terp: whens the next trip to the moon?
terp: i needa buy my tickets
benkay: $conference
empyex: benkay: Next conference starts in 9 months and 15 days. Estimated cost today: 2.04106878 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
assbot: The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.00081605 = 3.1353 BTC [+]
terp: what are these crazy californians doing legalizing bitcoin and marijuana?
benkay: desperate bid for relevance?
terp: its all ready the hippy mecca
assbot: Sotheby's London Hits High Notes with 93 Million Sale - artnet News
mircea_popescu: for 1.5mn pounds
asciilifeform: canvas, the oldest of the pump-altcoins.
mircea_popescu: !up Vallance
mircea_popescu: art, right ?
mircea_popescu: it's going to make a bundle for well positioned handlers tho. all this free floating money...
mircea_popescu: !up Liberus_Mercator
mircea_popescu: http://girls.twistys.com/preview/totm/07-2014/p01/p/14.jpg < jesus check out that trainwreck of a boobjob
asciilifeform: what'd they stuff in them, Büchner funnels ?
mircea_popescu: silicone it seems
kakobrekla: you havent seen those ghetto ops
mircea_popescu: Do u have any personal imformation of BVPS owner?They are fraud.They started buy back at a very low price 2 monthes ago,and it's non negotiation.I can get less than 3 btc.I accept that.And they say they will pay before june 30th. But I havent got any payment till today.
mircea_popescu: Namworld you still involved with that ?
kakobrekla: not a tit but nevertheless
mircea_popescu: so talking of ways one doesn't exactly expect to die : i have a gas boiler here. gas isn't really that commonly used in ba, and i guess they don't really get it. i notice that sometimes when i turn hot water on it sputters. super is like "well ya gotta let steam get out now an' again".
mircea_popescu: im like... nigga WHAT
mircea_popescu: direct circuit boiler. let's hope it doesn't acumulate too much steam o.O
benkay: pray for a bleeder valve?
mircea_popescu: i looked, it has one.
mircea_popescu: (it was suspended, sorta pointing towards sink, originally. send the bish to wash dish, get scalded bish randomly)
benkay: no dishwasher?
mircea_popescu: organic.
mircea_popescu: organic dishwasher.
benkay: human dishwasher
benkay: on an entirely different topic, mircea_popescu would you explain the tangibles line in the S.MG report?
mircea_popescu: not that i like the electric stuff anyway
mircea_popescu: benkay yeah, it had a bunch of servers paid upfront.
mircea_popescu: davout argued it to death when it was first introduced (about 1 year ago, s.mg was iirc the first to an0 report, and i wanted an example)
benkay: yeah, the argument was about buying vs leasing.
mircea_popescu: yeah, that.
benkay: it did seem a pretty tortured way to shoehorn an asset bearing company into an0 reporting.
mircea_popescu: what do you want from me ;/
asciilifeform: 'human dishwasher' << one item i keep expecting to see from the chicoms. looks precisely like the mechanical kind, but has a nice little fellow living inside (first eats scraps, then washes, then returns to his compartment. convenient sewer hookup for both!)
benkay: not that i know *anything(
benkay: what was the rationale, mircea_popescu - that since it was a purchase with a 1-year buyback agreement you could book it as opex instead of capex?
benkay: and do forgive any misunderstandings of terminology.
mircea_popescu: benkay that since eulora could sell it off if it decided not to want it it's worth something.
mircea_popescu: meets the definition of tangible.
mircea_popescu: so everything here takes the same brass skeleton keys pretty much. i have a 2`800 grams pile of different keys ;/
benkay: wait i thought an0 was for companies with no assets period?
benkay: nonzero asset corporation jesus fuck i'm retarded
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when they last changed a lock? 1790?
mircea_popescu: i have no idea
mircea_popescu: benkay don't get excited lol
davout: ohai
jurov: !t m f.mpif
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.0002151 / 0.00021604 / 0.00023849 (22205 shares, 4.80 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14141 @ 0.00081623 = 11.5423 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: hi mircea
jurov: and davout.. oh i was asking you earlier about paymium:
jurov: i'm trying to figure out something around here, would need to set up slovak translation and support, is that intersting for you?
davout: i beg your pardon
davout: does not compute
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03948 = 0.7896 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00081544 = 20.6306 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: "Well you're totally not paying your rent with my one free Bitcoin, you know?" https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-181800.html << How times have changed
assbot: Bitcoin Giveaway [Archive] - Stripper Web Exotic Dancer Community
mircea_popescu: suych an epic thread
assbot: Russia Softens Stance on Bitcoin - WSJ
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/femen-12.jpg << any idea who this one is btw ?
jurov: davout: to get merchants around here into paymium
jurov: nothing to see here, move along
davout: jurov: so you want to promote paymium in slovakia?
jurov: yes. if stars align right
jurov: i mean, if someone non-derpy will be around here to help me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00081475 = 10.4288 BTC [-]
assbot: BBC News - Why has Google cast me into oblivion?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: so is this a thing, you reply negatively to a tweet, then poster deleted op and retweets anew, disconnecting your comment from their feed << that sounds like exactly the sort of thing you'd see on twitter.
mircea_popescu: benkay that shit should be lulzy, i got tons of upset romanian scammzors/spammers/whatnot documented on trilema
mircea_popescu: for a long time they've been bitching
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 559333.38 in 518 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 9.35
BingoBoingo: OMG ATC diff going to the Moon!!!
assbot: Enter Twitter’s New Venture Capital Arm? - Digits - WSJ
benkay: pull more money out of the markets and dump it into your friends' idiotic startup scams.
benkay: please.
mircea_popescu: o check it out, gold tattoo is now a thing
mike_c: %p
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.32 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 11007.33 GH/s
mircea_popescu: black chicks can get done now too!
mircea_popescu: benkay i don't get it, twitter is not making money. what vc arm ?!
benkay: it's not vc it's a fucking roulette wheel
mircea_popescu: mp's feminism today : chick bitching about how society should change because she has no money and a trampstamp http://thisnorwegienne.com/trampstampingness-tramp-stamp
mircea_popescu: "Writer, Actress, Humanitarian, Philanderer, Bravado, and Playboy" mind.
mircea_popescu: you can be a "bravado" now, in grammarlessland.
benkay: No one calls a male past the age of puberty “a good boy.” // lies - i called a guy a "nice kid" just two days ago.
mircea_popescu: things that are inconvenient don't exist.
benkay: and i'm clearly alluding to his business and life inexperience.
benkay: waittaminute what's wrong with sluts?
mircea_popescu: dun ask me, bitch got issues.
benkay: does this person think that sluts are bad?
mircea_popescu: Some of us are trying to use ‘grow some ovaries’ as a female-friendly equivalent to ‘grow some balls,’
mircea_popescu: ahahahah
mircea_popescu: no, she just thinks ovaries. o gawd.
benkay: ovaries are not where the thinking happens
diatonic: neither are balls
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/femen-12.jpg << 'praise be to those who vanquished the dragon' << wtf
mircea_popescu: maybe she just meant "swallowed the snake"
mircea_popescu: and got snarled in translation.
mircea_popescu: diametric now that depends.
mircea_popescu: "For the record, I don’t think that a female who has frivolous and frequent sex with different men has any cause for shame, at least not if she’s doing it because she enjoys it and because it’s making her a happier and better citizen of the world, and if she is doing it for other less helpful reasons, then those reasons are what she should be dealing with, not the “symptoms.” Sadly, few people actually view f
mircea_popescu: emale sexuality in this way; even women and men who advocate liberated female sexuality, are sometimes guilty of using it against other women because the insult is so readily available and so ridiculously ingrained in us."
mircea_popescu: way to go on hitching the derpy equalitarian aggenda on sluttery.
mircea_popescu: we support women being sluts FOR BEING SLUTS, not for being something else that isn't being sluts. good god.
assbot: Proof of Position
mircea_popescu: liberated female sexuality specifically does not mean female sexuality coralled by feminist special interest. a slave's a paragon of liberated female sexuality, not some derpy "playboy" with bills due.
asciilifeform: mthreat: proof of gps spoofer
mthreat: .com
mircea_popescu: mthreat we need o get the ba registrar of deeds moving already
asciilifeform: mthreat: you don't even need a genuine physical one, just whatever diddles the appropriate field in the pnohe
asciilifeform: (a pnohe is not necessarily a phone. could be any gizmo with the customary 'amazing! smart!' feature set.)
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
asciilifeform: as exemplified by the iconic russian iPnohe.
benkay: had to explain to someone that their 'coupled' gps-imu thinger on a phone was not coupled in the strict sense of the thing.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ok.. do you know the guy who wrote proofofexistence.com is from bsas?
mthreat: it seems similar
mircea_popescu: i did not know that.
benkay: did so by example: "now on this other actually tightly-coupled gps imu an acquaintance built, he actually used the IMU to maintain a lock on the GPS sats while under...10G acceleration".
mircea_popescu: can you drop him a line so he shows up here ?
benkay: eyes bugged, minds boggled.
mthreat: yep
mircea_popescu: now that'd be cool.
asciilifeform: application: avio bomb?
asciilifeform: (rocket-propelled, otherwise you only gotta worry about 1G)
mircea_popescu: he didles rockets in hs spare time iirc.
asciilifeform: can't think of anything save for pyrotechics where one gets 10G.
asciilifeform: (possibly in a railtron)
mthreat: f1 cars get 5G
mircea_popescu: good sex is about 12 G
asciilifeform: i suppose they get 10 - if hit a wall!
mthreat: ouch
asciilifeform: no one said 'forward'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah they did stop being difficult :D
mthreat: last F1 accident I remember, tehy said the sensor said 26G
mthreat: and the driver was ok, maybe some bruising
asciilifeform: sensor got 26G - driver - no.
assbot: Tim Draper Bitcoin Press Conference on Livestream
assbot: F1 2008 Spain - Big crash for Heikki Kovalainen - On board - YouTube
assbot: Jeremy Allaire: Bitcoin Developers Need to 'Step Up'
mthreat: asciilifeform: sounds right - racing seatbelts are designed to "rip" a bit on impact to absorb some of the force
asciilifeform: mthreat: likewise the front of the car compacting.
mircea_popescu: is that sensor right under the hood above the radiator ?
mthreat: i don't know... probably close to the driver
mthreat: since that is what they want to measure
asciilifeform: ideally it would be up his arse
mthreat: haha
mthreat: actually -
mircea_popescu: ben-wa balls gforce sensor ?
mircea_popescu: !up scottj_
mthreat: mark webber had a thing about how he swallowed a pill that monitored his body temps, etc, during the race
asciilifeform distinctly recalls soviet flyers being instrumented in this fashion, at least early on
mthreat: then shat it out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33772 @ 0.00081375 = 27.482 BTC [-] {4}
asciilifeform: 'electronics' by forrest l mims contains a recipe for just such a pill. first baked in the early '50s.
benkay: an acquaintance crashed a Ford "Mustang" into a tree one time. the crumple zones are so well-distributed around the car that the cupholder crushed his unopened cola can, dousing everyone in the car in a fine mist of sugar water.
mthreat: it's amazing the fuel cells don't rupture in F1 cars
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mircea_popescu: notrly, the mesh composites they have...
asciilifeform: incidentally - it is, in principle, possible to build a car which could survive a crash intact. not by rigid construction (driver would get blended anyway) but via: momentum transfer. eject something out the back... a la 'recoil-less rifle.' work it out.
asciilifeform: consider the children's toy 'newton's cradle.'
benkay: <asciilifeform> application: avio bomb? // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4rnlyAnIFw
assbot: On Board LV2.3 with Roll Stabilization - YouTube
mthreat: interesting
benkay: <mircea_popescu> he didles rockets in hs spare time iirc. // once upon a time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but your cannon car would be a major danger for the one bhind it
benkay: p. capital intensive.
asciilifeform: why the rotating vanes?
benkay: they're vastly larger than the canards.
benkay: vortex shedding was imparting a torque on the airframe, inverting control and confusing controller.
mircea_popescu: "Following the overtaking of Lee’s email, the attackers processed a password challenge, which then provided them with a list of all of the passwords that had been previously listed within the browser. They then retrieved Bitcoins Reserve’s domain register, and then proceeded to add another DNS record that gave them access through Google to the company’s admin page for their apps account. "
mircea_popescu: lastpass is fucking stupid ftr.
benkay: so obviously the correct solution was to machine and harden our own .25M bearing races to decouple torque on stability fins from airframe.
benkay: (.25 m diameter)
benkay: *sigh*
benkay: i miss rockets.
rithm: derp
benkay: derp yourself
rithm: mircea_popescu took a vacation?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cannon car would be a major danger for the one bhind it << the one behind also fires. and so on, to the end of the column. don't stand there...
asciilifeform: reduction to practice - exercise for alert reader.
ThickAsThieves: Sheryl Sandberg apologizes for Facebook's News Feed experiment: 'we never meant to upset you'
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the record : Bitcoins Reserve / sam lee need to a) read the fucking history. this retarded shit happened once to bitpay.
mircea_popescu: bitpay fucktards didn't put the trilema article on he topic all over their site,
mircea_popescu: and so sam "didn't know" today.
mircea_popescu: and he ain't putting the by now years old trilema article al over his shitty "service"
mircea_popescu: so the next fucktards aren't gonna know.
ThickAsThieves: The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, a White House watchdog group that condemned the Obama administration's phone surveillance program earlier this year, has released another report ... According to the board, though, it's completely legal.
mircea_popescu: lastpass and "omaigawd i ar an engeniar" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: then they wonder why they're despised in bitcoin. well... this'd be why. stupidity does it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00081728 = 5.9661 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "we're not sorry we stole but terribly terribly sorry we got caught"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what trilema article?
BingoBoingo: Huh, even with Death owning the board, life is still a value purchase
ThickAsThieves: Bitcoin payments on Expedia exceeding their expectations, “I think we’ve already seen what we’ve needed to see..."
assbot: The Events of Failday pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: O hai let me verify your identity! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: this entire "stolen emails" thing is a decade old by now.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00081323 = 6.6685 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Many merchants are shitty on Alibaba, but... A lot of people like consuming and reselling shit. << wasn't this essentially the pitch of ebay too ?
mircea_popescu: what, dropshipping is worth fiddy trillion now ?
BingoBoingo: Well It's a place scared white Americans can get stuff from china and pretend to be "in industry"
mircea_popescu: i guess.
BingoBoingo: It's like LVHM, it sell the pretense of being or being in a thing
assbot: Tim Draper Bitcoin Press Conference on Livestream
jurov: !up ninjashogun >:D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.181754 = 0.9088 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: !up aegis
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021760 BTC (Total: 435.21 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up cowloon
mircea_popescu: artifexd: I don't think MagicalTux does anything "professionally" << ok that was pretty good
BingoBoingo: !up SuchWow
mircea_popescu: sheit, all caught up with logs, again.
BingoBoingo: !up VanCleef
ninjashogun: hey, so I don't know if it's related to my offer the other day or what by an op in another channel got about 23 PM's from people in this channel.
ninjashogun: I'll just state my interactoin with you guys for the record:
BingoBoingo: !up Ukyo
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how long that makes it but i think i never missed A SINGLE LINE since logs were introduced.
ninjashogun: i'm a startup founder, I now have 2 startups I'm doing. (That's what the small funding round is about in the other channel).
ninjashogun: that's it.
ninjashogun: I first asked you guys for cash.
BingoBoingo: !s pg@ycombinator.com
ninjashogun: And then when I realized that you guys have a ton of money and (I thought) in earnest working on products, offered services.
ninjashogun: Anyway, I'm a real world person. Anyone here who is interested cna connect with me in real life.
ninjashogun: I disagree with all of you completely on running a business - especially Mircau. I think this channel is incredibly trollish.
mike_c: !down jurov
ninjashogun: But I have absolutely no gov't affiliation of any kind, and 15 minutes on the phone with me can tell anyone everything about me.
mircea_popescu: mthreat status report in my inbox re yest : "Streets jammed with crazy hat wearers and trumpet people, Argentina's playing. Nueve de Julio es bloqueado completamente con locos."
aegis: Hi all... sorry for the nick changes... I was grouping nicks that some scammers were using earlier.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: it was crazy. I'm looking forward to more crazyness when they play belgium
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00081814 = 7.8951 BTC [+] {2}
ninjashogun: This channel is the most trollish I've ever seen. Anyone is welcome to participate in my funding round on -otc though, as long as they want to connect with me in real life (I don't deal with pseudonymns)
mircea_popescu: is this what, quarter finals by now ?
mthreat: i think so
mircea_popescu: aegis pretty sucky to have to group all the possible variations. got aeg1s ?
ninjashogun: the funding is $30K within the week, it can be to hard trusted escrower (who does cost control). It's being spent on two startups, one of which has a client but is not yet incorporated, the other has discussed very high valuaitons with (real-world) VC's.
aegis: lol... not yet
BingoBoingo: !up CheckDavid
ninjashogun: by cost-control I mean someone trusted (nobody from this channel obv) can actually wire the checks, to e.g. incorporation costs, legal costs around closing the round, etc. You would have to like and be involved with real-world, VC-backed startups to be able to participate meaningfully.
ninjashogun: Anyway that's it.
benkay: ang31s?
a3gis: someone registered a3gis
a3gis: lol
asciilifeform: someone trusted (nobody from this channel obv) << why spam here?
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, the reason is that a mod from another bitcoin channel got (in his words) 23 PM's from people in this channel. After someone posted my offer here.
aegis: Do any of you make a living just off bitcoin?
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, 23 PM's from people asking about me (or my deal.) So, I thought I would clear things up.
ninjashogun: I slightly trust Benkay, however he doesn't have a real-world VC network and hasn't taken venture capital money for his business.
ninjashogun: Benkay and I talked on skype extensively btw, you can ask him anything about me, he'll know the basics.
ninjashogun: (1 single conversation.)
ninjashogun: I've also connected with other real-world VC's/founders from here. So it's a mixed bag.
ninjashogun: anyway that's all for me. just came here to address the PM's.
jurov: lol how many veecees you connected for 30k$ ???
ninjashogun: jurov, 0. I didn't even mention it to them.
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: aegis how do you mean "any"
mircea_popescu: i'd imagine it's most.
ninjashogun: Ah, the list of expenses is a joke :)
ninjashogun: but yes, that log is fine.
aegis: nice
ninjashogun: He is wrong that it's a "loan" however.
ninjashogun: The bid that I'm soliciting is for an x repayment.
ThickAsThieves: Draper called him Satoshi Nakomura
jurov: ninjashogun have you talked to usagi?
ninjashogun: For traditoinal companies, that have at least 2 years of net revenues, it's typical to raise "RBF" (revenue based financing) at a multiple of up to 5x, meaning that it will be returned until 5x has been returned. And that is with substantially reduced risk. (2 years of real cash flow.)
ninjashogun: so I can take bids up to any amount and will consider them, on the $30K.
ninjashogun: jurov, let me see. doesn't ring a bell.
jurov: yea, i definitely recommend
Mats_cd03: Benkay is a real bro
ninjashogun: Hi, Mats_cd03 and I have talked as well, but not on skype or anything. At the time i think I was just focusing on the newer business with you Mats, you would recall that I was talking in terms of a loan I think.
ninjashogun: However at the moment both businesses are doing "well" (at the preseed stage), the second (services only) business is gearing up really well and it's time to incorporate, etc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00081892 = 5.8143 BTC [+]
benkay: i even lift
ninjashogun: jurov, I don't see a log for Usagi when I open the scrollback, so probably I haven't spoken with him.
jurov: ;;seen usagi
gribble: usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 38 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, 29 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <usagi> No, but it will go over
jurov: he's gone over to bitcointalk
ninjashogun: so that's a while ago
ninjashogun: jurov, I would ordinarily ask for an "intro" (who is he, etc) but I've been told that it's a bit forward to ask for this kind of info in btc world.
mircea_popescu: !up Bugpowder
mircea_popescu: o look who's here.
benkay: a wild Bugpowder !
mircea_popescu: do you know hw to up yourself Bugpowder ?
Bugpowder: Just watching the livestream
Bugpowder: I don't know!
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mircea_popescu: Bugpowder id with gribble pm assbot !up
ninjashogun: jurov, I recommend a double opt-in system, where you ask Usagi if he would like an intro to a founder, and if he does want one (as well - I'll speak to him) you can introduce us.
ThickAsThieves: these guys just wont spit out the price huh
ninjashogun: by "as well - I'll speak to him" I mean that I will appreciate the intro, I'm happy to speak with him.
ninjashogun: so it's up to him if he wants to connect.
jurov: hm, did anyone really wrote something that does justice to usagi's long and colorful career?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves badly advised. supposedly it's gonna get more "exposure" this way.
ninjashogun: jurov - oh, wait, is he a scammer?
mircea_popescu: jurov deprived, but iirc mostly deleted it.
Bugpowder: ok tx
thestringpuller: Holy shit
jurov: ninjashogun: he had only the purest and noblest intentions, you remind me of him
thestringpuller: Bugpowder:
thestringpuller: mah nigga
ninjashogun: Guys, THIS - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133823.20 - is why we have securities laws.
assbot: Usagi- is he or isn't he a scammer.
ninjashogun: jurov, this is why I'm ont raising a securities sale
ninjashogun: jurov, this is why I ignore people's suggestions to make a crypto currency and sell shares, etc.
ninjashogun: Jurov, I am only interested in personal financing, not in my assets per se. The use is on the two companies, one of which isn't even incorporated.
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: The thing is to us you sound astoundingly like Usagi
jurov: yes you do something dont-name-it-bond
ThickAsThieves posts a "Do Not Feed the Trolls" sign.
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, well did you guys talk to him in real life? Or is this all from bizarro btc work?
ninjashogun: world*
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, well, I don't know. That thread I linked shows a founder who is selling assets free of any regulation or securities law. It gets ugly very fast.
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, it's why I don't mind doing traditional things. All of the great companies built in America since hte Great Depressoin, including the entire Internet and softtware, etc, tech sector, was done under securities regulation.
ninjashogun: you can't just come up with some bogus asset and start selling it.
ninjashogun: this is as it should be.
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: And then there's the people who built shit *gasp* with their own sweat and money
ninjashogun: Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you guys. You're free to do whatever you want. If anyone wants in on the funding that is being raised I was asked to post a prospectus, it'll be in the other channel and you can review it.
ninjashogun: I also consider hte logging here and its interpretation to be absolutely psychopathic. Like you guys have never picked up the phone and networked with anyone.
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, yeah, you and Benkay have the same philosophy here.
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, but while I respect that philosophy, a little bit of capital is always needed.
thestringpuller: ninjashogun: do you know the story of "The Boss"?
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, like, engineers love the immiggrant Tesla's story, but he only ecked out a meagre living from some patent royalties and that's it.
jurov: just do a garage sale
jurov: !down ninjashogun
Bugpowder: If anyone wants to put $50-250k+ into a real near field microscopy startup at the angel stage, let me know.
thestringpuller: HAHAHAHA
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: That's why most restaraunts hire dishwashers, so people can realize their dreams
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder what's your involvement ?
Bugpowder: Good friend of mine
Bugpowder: I might put in 50
ThickAsThieves: dude outright wont say what he paid :(
mircea_popescu: i might have too, if i knew him.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "if you're watching it, you're in the demo"
Bugpowder: I know the tech is solid, he just quit job with market leader to found the company, and will partner back with them.
thestringpuller: hey Bugpowder how's it been man?
Bugpowder: good. up and running LA
Bugpowder: Tech is basically a sSNOM that can work on existing microscopes. Spans atomic to microscopic scale imaging. Field will blow up next year. https://www.bruker.com/fileadmin/user_upload/8-PDF-Docs/SurfaceAnalysis/AFM/Webinars/6_27_13_Webinar-sSNOM-beating_diffraction_limit_by1000X.pdf
mircea_popescu: sounds pretty cool
Bugpowder: I can put you in touch if possibly interested. He has plan and deck can show privately.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12559 @ 0.00082051 = 10.3048 BTC [+] {2}
Bugpowder: Poor dogecoin. DFJ is out on doge.
Bugpowder: Draper
fluffypony: ah ok
nubbins`: davout is slovak?
nubbins`: i thought he was french
jurov: he is french
jurov: and paymium is shown with english interface, that's why i write about i18n
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mike_c: %p
mthreat: ^watching - this is kind of painful to watch
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.38 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 10005.56 GH/s
mike_c: nubbins`: highlight was: he's not telling on price.
mircea_popescu: jurov i thought he was nigerian
nubbins`: i'd say he went between 800 and 1k
jurov: mircea_popescu misheard vegetarian?
jurov: then i dunno
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I'm leaning to suspect that as well. That the reason he isn't talking price yet is he doesn't want to appear to have overpayed
mike_c: 1k isn't overpaying for 30k bitcoins
mike_c: ;;market buy 15000
gribble: Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 12234.28 bitcoins, for a total of 14798736.0877 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 0.0354 seconds
mircea_popescu: either that or he got it for free and they're working on an angle.
mike_c: ;;market buy 10000
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 7554622.7432 USD and would take the last price up to 1005.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 755.4623 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 19.0805 seconds
nubbins`: well y'know. you're talking about an inconvenience in buying
nubbins`: he buys something with 1btc tomorrow, he's out money
nubbins`: he buys something worth 5000 btc tomorrow, he's out money
mike_c: i don't think he spent his last $ on the coins.
assbot: the wrong way to beg for money
nubbins`: i don't think he spent "his" money at all
Namworld: I am now attracting threats of harm to me and my family, for working for a Bitcoin casino and for having a few BTC. Apparently I'm responsible for Scrat's debts because Scrat not reachable/can't pay.
mircea_popescu: scrat disappeared ?
Namworld: The worst way to beg for money.
nubbins`: people are threatening you and your family?
mircea_popescu: i didn't know Namworld was married.
Namworld: Nevermind that I can't do anything about it nor have access to Scrat's wallet.
mircea_popescu: so wait, coinroll is belly up ?
Namworld: Nah, I'm not. Some schmuck who probably lost money on Coinroll and can't get to scrat found my Facebook.
kyuupichan: blockchain.info just gets worse and worse
nubbins`: Namworld, bummer
nubbins`: better call the cops
Namworld: No, Coinroll did no such thing. But apparently his losses aren't legit and Scrat owes him.
kakobrekla: kyuupichan blockr.io
Namworld: Normally I'd think the guy is a retard because I'm not the right nor wealthiest target in this... but that's what makes it worse. I imagine a retard could well decide to go gangster and show up.
justusranvier: First mistake: having a Facebook account
davout: jurov mircea_popescu french/dutch/nigerian by adoption = a fun world cup
fluffypony: I kinda agree with justusranvier
fluffypony: Facebook is the devil
mircea_popescu: dude these pics i made yest kick all conceivable ass
mircea_popescu: Namworld maybe it';s a hot chick and you end up with a new, fiery girlfriend ?
justusranvier: Second mistake: logging into IRC with your home cable modem's IP address exposed.
Namworld: I don't really hide my idendity. Never have, never wanted to. Anymore than mircea tries to hide anything about who he is. I don't have anything to hide. If I wanted something not known, it wouldn't be known.
Namworld: My IP doesn't matter when I've never hidden my name.
Namworld: There was a guy who at first claimed his son gambled his BTC on Coinroll, it's illegal, refund it. Was very insisting. Then another claimed Scrat stole the money and laundered it on his website (no idea how he knew the address his "stolen" BTC went to was a Coinroll address). Then some guy threatening legal action to me directly, having dug up my info. I told him I don't own or have
Namworld: access to Coinroll. Now I have harm threats and guy says he doesn't care I'm neither owner nor have access to Coinroll's wallet. I have to pay up from my personal money or I won't live...
Namworld: They all sounded alike... not sure if I should laugh, or fear a retard actually showing up... Even if he comes for me, the guy will still be a retard.
justusranvier: As the exchange rate of Bitcoin increases, so will the incentive of those who are inclined to use extortion, kidnapping, ransom, lawsuits, etc in order to obtain it.
davout: Namworld: retards don't actually do the things they threaten about
davout: justusranvier: lawsuits <<< okay
Namworld: Some retards do, thinking it's actually a good idea. Fortunately that's not too common...
justusranvier: Yeah, lawsuits is redundant with extortion
davout: Namworld: meh, if the guy is that retarded how do you expect him to gather your address from your facebook
Namworld: @justusranvier Yes about exchange rate, apparently so. I've told the guy he didn't make sense. I'm not the one owning him and if he wanted to extort someone, there's better targets that are just as public.
Namworld: I have my address right there on whois. The guy has known it for months.
Namworld: He doesn't show up tho. All I get is IRC threats and addresses to make payments to...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1869998 = 0.561 BTC [+]
davout: Namworld: well, pay him or tell him to fuck off i guess
davout: or maybe just send him a drawing of a spider as payment :3
Namworld: I told him basically just that. That's his threats are pointless and not at the right target.
davout: no no, that's trying to use some sort of logic, just "fuck off" i meant
benkay: urgh bitbet and mpif are now so tangled
benkay: only thing missing is bitbets about mpif nav
Namworld: It's not gonna magically make his money appear. If he's serious he can just come to beat me and rob me, but it wouldn't be really any different than any other house robbery.
benkay: kyuupichan: what's going on with blockchain today?
davout: benkay: just not working
jurov: benkay gotta put some specially crafted bet related to mpif to close the loop
Namworld: I'm surprised jurov/wao haven't received threats already. I'm sure they'll start coming in from random people soon enough.
jurov: i don't disagree, you just happen to be most visible and in a country with most prone law system
Namworld: yes, legal threats are obviously easy. Doubt it would fly in court when I have no control on Coinroll. Would probably be instantly dismissed, I hope.
jurov: btw, how exactly is your situation different from dooglus' ?
jurov: "no control" i see, but investment and/or cooperation still falls under that law?
Namworld: It's not different. I can't operate Coinroll in Canada, hence why I refused to take it over. Scrat offered it for free to me and someone else. Me being in Canada and other in US, we refused.
Namworld: Well it might be potentially illegal in Canada to operate. But it's not illegal in all jurisdiction and as far as I know, foreign investment is not forbidden.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15572 @ 0.00081895 = 12.7527 BTC [-] {2}
Namworld: Aka, I can't own/operate most BTC things in Canada without license. But there's never been anything preventing investment in legal foreign companies...
jurov: are you required to disclose such investment?
Namworld: Maybe one could prosecute me because it's not registered. Maybe some zealous prosecutor could try to argue I'm an owner. But it wouldn't make much sense. It wouldn't close the business nor prevent operations.
Namworld: I don't control/operate it.
Namworld: I might have to disclose it. Something I'll have to investigate how to do.
Namworld: One thing I know I'd have to disclose is any income/profit, obviously. The taxman will want a cut.
fluffypony: this is stupid
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fluffypony: do no coinbase users know about NLockTime?
mircea_popescu: i would wager not.
davout: "do no coinbase users know" <<< that sentence could have stopped right here
Namworld: Most news article about Bitcoin and especially "what is the future/good for BTC" is stupid, fluffypony
Namworld: mircea_popescu, if it's not too indiscrete to ask, with the fortune you've accumulated in BTC so far, haven't you received threats/extortion demands so far?
mircea_popescu: <Namworld> access to Coinroll. Now I have harm threats and guy says he doesn't care I'm neither owner nor have access to Coinroll's wallet. I have to pay up from my personal money or I won't live... << so tell him the same lol
mircea_popescu: but anyway, you're running into what i'll call from now on the andreas proble,
mircea_popescu: it goes like this : you wanna play with the adults, you gotta wear adult breeches.
mircea_popescu: can't afford security detail ? stfu, do something else with your time. bitcoin is not for you.
mircea_popescu: don't have a team of lawyers on each fucking continent ? stfu, bitcoin is not for you. etc.
mircea_popescu: <benkay> only thing missing is bitbets about mpif nav << building the finances of a nation here naimean ?
mircea_popescu: Namworld of course i have. i also enjoy killing people.
Namworld: I somehow thought so, eh
mircea_popescu: exactly how beaten up should a would-be robber/etc be before he's been beaten up too much is a matter the courts never quite carved out.
mircea_popescu: you can probably not take a whole week doing it, but then again most schmucks wouldn't last a week anyway.
benkay: a week isn't a beating, that's torture.
mircea_popescu: o it is ?
benkay: and if you can't make a torturing go on for a week...
benkay: well gosh am i really talking to the real mp?
mircea_popescu: i guess the date the guy got caught must have been misreported then.
mircea_popescu: shit happens.
benkay: i'm sure a beating could go on for a full week, but what do you have after a day? pulp?
benkay: mircea_popescu: you'd know, not i
mircea_popescu: hey, it's namworld's friend we're talking about. che c'entro io
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 582285.14 in 431 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 13.84
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.38 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 10769.11 GH/s
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Life can't catch a break
mike_c: there have been some good fights for the bombs, but death's have been more effective.
mike_c: whoever got that pre-game bet in on death is killing it
BingoBoingo doesn't know who could have seeded the death pot...
BingoBoingo looks shifty atm
mike_c: hehe. well good bet whoever it was :)
BingoBoingo: There's still time for life to try something bombwise in a sustained manner.
BingoBoingo: I suspect the earliest bombs really set the stage though
mike_c: life is very scattered. needs some good bombs to connect those islands
benkay: <mike_c> whoever got that pre-game bet in on death is killing it // ohyou.png
BingoBoingo: 2 Death No 4, 37 Small, prolly really set the stage...
Namworld: !up diablo-d3
Diablo-D3: [06:15:33] <Namworld> My IP doesn't matter when I've never hidden my name.
Diablo-D3: I dont hide mine either
mircea_popescu: !up bgupta
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 24 @ 0.03079906 = 0.7392 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !up pi07r
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 796k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 285
mircea_popescu: pankkake i took that test in spite of it starting with a retarded question. "Your top match for Which Atlas Shrugged character are you? is: John Galt"
atcbot: 18k@310 11k@275 19k@272 | 899k@199 500k@151 175k@142
mircea_popescu: but i'm 69% dagny so perhaps we got something there.
pankkake: my second choice was dagny too
mircea_popescu: actually my 2nd is Hank Rearden (95%)
mircea_popescu: i guess i gotta break down and read this book now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 70 @ 0.03079906 = 2.1559 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !up statdude_
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15053 @ 0.00082086 = 12.3564 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 70 @ 0.0175 = 1.225 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: mircea_popescu: that's not thoth?
benkay: the teacher
benkay: man do you just write a post and then purge it from your brain?
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mircea_popescu: i dunno, you think ?!
benkay: first think i thunk
BingoBoingo: benkay: Maybe if you wrote a post you could purge ninjashogun from your brain?
mircea_popescu: seems improbable to me, but who knows
benkay: i don't write posts no mo.
benkay: gotta take that thing down.
benkay: i'd rather write emails instructing clients on the correct course of action and get paid for such than...blog.
benkay: don't really see why i should flatten out the information asymmetry either.
mircea_popescu: because it makes it more difficult for the mediocres.
BingoBoingo: Oh, it is the parts of the information you flatten that matter
benkay: <mircea_popescu> because it makes it more difficult for the mediocres. // pardon? i thought reducing asymmetry made for more efficient markets.
mircea_popescu: if nobody publihes anything mr foreskinhead can continue to pretend like he's "advising" "clients".
mircea_popescu: so can lew rockwell.
mircea_popescu: so can keiser. you were here when the a/b trick was explained no ?
benkay: mhm, i'm familiar.
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benkay: i also don't have anything to say about things anymore.
benkay: so diff goes up - so what.
mircea_popescu: it's a skill.
benkay: so price is highly volataile, so what.
mircea_popescu: lol when's the last time i said something about that.
benkay: i don't really care to put my life online either.
benkay: at one point, one of the side goals was to leave a hole in the internet when i got disappeared, but now i'm just working on getting out of dodge.
benkay: i figure -assets will notice, and that's all that really matters.
benkay: lol okay so dig this
benkay: the local art school - Pacific Northwest College of Smoking Cigarettes and Being a Hipster opened up a new dorm downtown with a neat little cafe in the bottom.
benkay: i stop in, figuring - hey, art school, coffee, wine, surely there will be some cuties around
benkay: but i guess the shit's too expensive for the students, as there's not a school-aged soul in the place during work hours
mircea_popescu: so put up a poster : wanna hang out here but too hip to afford it ? call me.
benkay: lol not bad
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00081915 = 23.5096 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 45 @ 0.01412781 = 0.6358 BTC [-] {5}
nubbins`: the weather's been really nice this week, and it has awakened a deep thirst
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.03716272 = 1.3007 BTC [-] {7}
mircea_popescu: nudie beach ?
nubbins`: nah, just drinking a lot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 31 @ 0.03079906 = 0.9548 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5578 @ 0.0008122 = 4.5305 BTC [-]
nubbins`: capelin are rolling now anyway, beaches are gross
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 31 @ 0.0175 = 0.5425 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12972 @ 0.00081495 = 10.5715 BTC [+] {2}
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bitstein: Hilarious
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14078 @ 0.00081372 = 11.4556 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: i guess i gotta break down and read this book now << never read it before!? epic porn!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can't afford security detail ? stfu, do something else with your time. bitcoin is not for you << alternatively, be boring. (works for me so far)
mircea_popescu: so here's a business idea : go by hospitals with trauma centers, buy amputated parts off amputees in order to cure the skin and make real human skin items
mircea_popescu: such as i dunno, bikinis. and lampshades.
mircea_popescu: !up GunPlay
mircea_popescu: GunPlay you're not some sort of deranged pua are you ?
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform always been too lazy
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Most amputees around here any more... Tend to be amputees because of conditions manifesting in the skin.
GunPlay: haha pick up artist?
mircea_popescu: nm that dude was gunwitch
asciilifeform owns a briefcase full of various tweezers, can pick up anything!
GunPlay: lol
GunPlay: my nick comes from playing first person shooters a lot back in the day
mircea_popescu: "The freedom to apply for a job at your partner's workplace without worrying that others will think you only got the job because of your partner."
GunPlay: quake 1
mircea_popescu: what are these people, retarded ?
mircea_popescu: "Telling someone to RTFM without being accused of PMS." this is, incidentally, older than all those involved.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure it survives intact since the old codex.
benkay: old codex?
asciilifeform: s/codex/testament ?
benkay: ah yes "go to the back of the column until you're fit to associate with humans again"
mircea_popescu: nono the jargon file
asciilifeform: what are these people, retarded << not exactly. this crud is at least as old as 'poenitentiam agite.'
mircea_popescu: GunPlay wait, you're the guy mthreat mentioned ?
mircea_popescu: !s gnuplay
mircea_popescu: ah no, danielpbarron yest.
benkay: asciilifeform: what's a good name for the statal organizations who encourage citizens to report each other for 'infractions'?
asciilifeform: benkay: different names, depending on the cultural flavour of the particular example
asciilifeform: benkay: just as a 'samurai' isn't quite the same animal as european 'knight,' a soviet стукач isn't entirely the same species as a new york 'stoolie' - etc.
asciilifeform: 'стукач' ~= 'one who knocks' (implication, on the 'right door')
mthreat: mircea_popescu: no that guy works at bitpay, it turns out
mircea_popescu: ;;prevdiff
gribble: 13462580114.5
GunPlay: mircea_popescu: naw, I don't know mthreat
gribble: 1.6818461371161112E10
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 308950 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1513 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15773777899.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.21153
GunPlay: danielpbarron suggested I join this channel and learn about Bitcoin via mostly experts
GunPlay: good stuff, I'll just lurk for a while I suppose :-)
BingoBoingo: GunPlay: That doesn't hurt, but also throwing things out in the channel can be productive
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mircea_popescu: there, i've thrown out a very unfortunate young lady.
asciilifeform: why unfortunate
mircea_popescu: compare and contrast.
benkay: GunPlay: per BingoBoingo's comment above, being wrong is not a crime here. refusing to listen to reason, though...
GunPlay: benkay: haha, that makes sense
mike_c: %p
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 14243.64 GH/s
GunPlay: well, I mention to danielpbarron that I was interesting in people doing Bitcoin projects
GunPlay: new ideas, implementations, products, both free or not
GunPlay: sorry for the misspellings, meant to say interested
GunPlay: daniel said I should hang out here
GunPlay: that a lot of you guys are driving Bitcoin development in some way, whether directly or through community
BingoBoingo: GunPlay: The occasional spelling or grammar slip is fine. I'm drunk here occasionally.
mircea_popescu: lot of good stuff in the logs GunPlay
GunPlay: ah, cool, I'll check 'em out
mircea_popescu: !s coinfront
mircea_popescu: o those derps. mkay.
GunPlay: BingoBoingo: I look forward to your drunken rants ;-)
BingoBoingo: There's plenty in the logs
GunPlay: lol
BingoBoingo: Also on the blog
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mircea_popescu: ;;rated dooglus
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mircea_popescu: ;;rate dooglus 3 Truly a pillar of the community.
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benkay: no community, only capitalism.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47712 @ 0.00081656 = 38.9597 BTC [+] {4}
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 600351.50 in 355 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 17.37
mike_c: gotta love that stabilization :)
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 787k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 286
BingoBoingo: Is this "stabilization" going to happen after every time I make a monthly statement?
mike_c: pool hoppers are subscribed to your blog rss
BingoBoingo: Watch the difficulty drop mid month, because It's been too long since I made a statement
atcbot: 18k@310 11k@275 19k@272 | 898k@199 500k@151 175k@142
BingoBoingo: https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/ << I wonder if extinction might happen this round
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
mike_c: catch a falling dagger and you could make out
BingoBoingo: I just wonder if some Life bagholder is going to start bombing like hell
mike_c: hehe. after you go to sleep of course
mike_c: ouch, it's a blood bath on the life side
BingoBoingo: Well, the first random and first paid bombs really set the tone
mike_c: game's been going for 14 hours.. "expected" time for this # of frames is 49 hours. speed WoL!
BingoBoingo: Indeed
kyuupichan: mircea_popescu: "Amazon also will capitulate. Rejection reason: Consider submitting with paid wager."
kyuupichan: I did submit a paid wager, and you refunded it. I assume you mean you want a bigger one?
kyuupichan: Twas 0.1 BTC.
BingoBoingo: The prolly wanted a bigger one seeing how little traction that sort of proposition gets on its own
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.03881338 = 0.5434 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00081657 = 15.7598 BTC [+] {2}
moiety: mew
moiety: didja miss me?
assbot: Altcoin Borat (altcoin_borat) auf Twitter
BingoBoingo: moiety: Some shit site is ripping off the trend http://offbeat.topix.com/story/12832
assbot: This Cat Makes The Best Faces In The Whole Wide World.
moiety: BingoBoingo: doyou have any news for me?
BingoBoingo: moiety: No new news yet. Which isn't a bad thing
moiety: can i just say i do no. 8 regularly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00081375 = 3.1329 BTC [+]
moiety: no no not a bad thing at all. means they havent delievered the bad news to the otherws yet :D
moiety: can i also sat no 9. is my usual dau to day face lol
moiety: say*
danielpbarron: hi, GunPlay
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