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benkay: motherfucker even had the temerity to ask how much cash survant james had on hand
benkay: the nerve!
BingoBoingo: Mar 20 21:17:52 <ninjashogun>(You're not going to like this answer, but for my suggested Version 2: Wifi has less trust implicit architecturally it is not possible to automount a usb keyboard over wifi. You woudl have to break the wifi protocol, or use it in an unintended way as a carrier for other internal data) << Moment he became an UnSavory Garnish
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun> Btw I'm not the only founder you guys have trolled and ninjashogun> I can dox someone else from -assets that you guys absolutely trolled, who is a real-world VC and multi-millionaire are quotes from latest PM'ing of me
BingoBoingo: I dunno if he really pays attention here, because of late we've been talking alot about Marc Andressussuusenuen.
BingoBoingo: Appologies on the spelling, but reality distortion field
benkay: hue hue hue i just got an email back from pg@ycombinator.com disavowing "robert viragh"
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0VPB65Z.txt )
BingoBoingo: When he first mentioned the startup name I though he ould have been Colin.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00082442 = 28.6074 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell ninjashogun http://dpaste.com/0VPB65Z.txt
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: mr spam & his claims reminds me of 1st grade in ussr. kid-1: 'my father can beat up your father' kid-2: 'my father is a general!' kid-3: 'my father is a general and has own tank!' kid-4: 'well! my father...'
BingoBoingo: 1st grade in USA not that long ago we just beat each other up to establish things
asciilifeform: the exchange described above usually happened in class, where you can't square off
BingoBoingo: You forget USA children are uncontrollable monsters
asciilifeform: one of the few interesting things about our local turdmeister is how his scriptwriter was supplied with a defective 'world build' narrative by the brass. e.g. that folks in this channel eat, sleep, jerk off to, the eternal dream of being uplifted into the vc circus
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37350 @ 0.00083173 = 31.0651 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: e.g. the plot of american tv series 'silicon valley'
BingoBoingo: Little do they realize that this channel is largely a bunch of happy paupers
BingoBoingo: A canvas upon which the brass may project their insecurities
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00082748 = 10.2608 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <benkay> i need a caning << talk to moiety, she's gotta unionize after this
mircea_popescu: <benkay> hey asciilifeform you've done it too get off my case << best argument ever </sarcasm>
mircea_popescu: !up Lycerion
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Little do they realize that this channel is largely a bunch of happy paupers << it wouldn't surprise me if stoics were indeed the majority.
asciilifeform: 'if only one could slake hunger by rubbing stomach.'
mircea_popescu: that's the different sort. cynics.
asciilifeform happy cynic
mircea_popescu: not so sure how many hedonists we got really.
asciilifeform: if cynic must watch for falling turtle - what does stoic watch for ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: My point is how many here other than the brazen and very old to the BTC game have secret fortunes that could be easily or completely enumerated by an outsider.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stoic doesn't watch, stoic sleeps
BingoBoingo: To a ninjashogun we can be very poor indeed. To anyone we enter an OTC trade with we can have a bit more than exactly enough to trasnact.
mircea_popescu: so i'm going to check out uruguay. if i don't show up for a day or so, don't panic, i still love you.
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asciilifeform: what's noteworthy in uruguay ?
asciilifeform: or - just because it's there
BingoBoingo: A little of column B, a little there's girls there is prolly the mix
mircea_popescu: strategy's strategy.
BingoBoingo: ;;google uruguay tits
gribble: Tits-fashion Uruguay | Facebook: <http://es-es.facebook.com/fashion.tits>; Tits-fashion Uruguay - Photos | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/fashion.tits/photos_stream>; TITS fashion Uruguay (TITSFashion) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/TITSFashion>
BingoBoingo: In other news, there is a downside to restoring and seasoning ancient cast iron... Suddenly you get a hunger for everything in the fridge and freezer.
BingoBoingo: Fry 3 pounds of shrimp, sure. throw two pounds of those in an 8 egg omlette? Why the fuck not.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082422 = 3.3793 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Once I get through the mess of leftovers I might finally get to start training these skillets on old favorites like headcheese scrambled in eggs.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: secret fortunes << lol
asciilifeform owns proverbial 'last shirt'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine for ~90% of people who have BTC fortunes an aren't retards with ridiculous burn rates, they wait for the terraforming wrought by more adventurous holders
BingoBoingo: Mar 20 21:52:16 <ninjashogun>On the other hand for text analysis reasons I don't think he should post even anonymized quotes. Most people's writing is extremely characteristic << The UnSavory Garnish reveals he is indeed a Vegetable
BingoBoingo: My greatest hope for the week is that I find I can begin working at a library for dollars, cutting the BTC burn rate to below zero
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo is running on batteries ?
BingoBoingo: I run on entropy like any good crypto process
BingoBoingo: "happy accidents"
BingoBoingo: I tire of "happy accidents" though, last year held too many.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8446 @ 0.00082529 = 6.9704 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: There is exactly one sort of happy Accident I can suggest happens with some certainty if anyone needs such a thing.
BingoBoingo: How to cover such a thing is an exercise for people who study these things.
BingoBoingo: But, due to name, anytime line betting operators give Serena William's opponent decimal odds less than 10, there is opportunity to either have or create a "happy accident"
BingoBoingo: This particular "happy accident" has reliably worked since last summer. Implementation as always though is ledt to the reader to their ability.
kakobrekla: how can this be in the same line, "100% profitable" and "no scam"
asciilifeform: didn't say profitable 'for whom'
kakobrekla: myea i guess.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect you might be the only one here who knows the first thing about the craft of sports bet.
BingoBoingo: Between the lines I never suppose a necessary second ot third party asciilifeform
asciilifeform: do i misunderstand - to win in a bet, some fellow has to bet on... other sid
BingoBoingo: Only the happy accident of seeing an overpriced big name attract too much money to her side and the profit of whoever takes it
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: of course if it is indeed a bet, but what if one wants to turn ancient, yet heretofore deniable coins liquid?
BingoBoingo: You move the ancient coins in a way that feigns a rougue BTC sports book, withdraw as apportunity presents and record that for the soldering iron.
BingoBoingo: At some point the book you played on folds...
asciilifeform: beats buying miners...
BingoBoingo: And the ancient coins slumber again for a while.
BingoBoingo: How much effort and time goes into the pretense of happy accidents is a test of one's tolerance for rectal heating.
asciilifeform: incidentally: whatever happened to the automatic multi-chain coin exchange?
BingoBoingo: Which one?
asciilifeform: the one operated purely by magic transactions
BingoBoingo: There's like 100 of those nao.
asciilifeform: wait where?
BingoBoingo: Open Transactions.
BingoBoingo: Start a server, trade with yourself.
asciilifeform: not sure if this is the same thing
BingoBoingo: Oh, knotwork isn't here nao
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It isn't but I offered the more deniable choice.
asciilifeform: idea was, you send, e.g. some btc to addr A, in n parcels. low bits of the parcels encode, e.g. an ltc address. to which the corresponding amount of ltc is then sent.
BingoBoingo: Open Transactions>Colored Coins> Mastercoin>NxT...
asciilifeform: i described this here when first found the channel, somebody (mp?) said, 'this is being built'
BingoBoingo: I dunno that scheme
asciilifeform: afaik it was described only... here.
asciilifeform: idea being 'provably fair exchange'
BingoBoingo: Ive heard things like this described. OpenTransaction is the only close to working way I know to do this with yourself though.
asciilifeform: afaik that's just an attempt at a standard format for signing 'buy' & 'sell' proclamations ?
BingoBoingo: Honestly for all of the NxT and Mastercoin Derp, I think knotwork actually had the whole stack working well first on OT
asciilifeform: rather than an actual means of running exchange that can be operated purely through blockchain activity
BingoBoingo: The Base unit he chose, devcoin
asciilifeform is unfamiliar with the listed derps
BingoBoingo: Everyone needs to know a corner of derps
BingoBoingo: Honestly my biggest problem with a lot of the cryptocoin derps isn't that they don't know the history, but that they don't know how many corners the history has.
BingoBoingo: Much of the best 2012-2013 history at the advent of asics is samizdat
BingoBoingo: All of namecoin history is basically that.
BingoBoingo: For a couple months I made it my mission to shove as much video into the NMC blockchain as possible
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mike_c niggers.txt
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;; later tell mike_c seriously we need to have a talk about WoL
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell justusranvier Where have you been? I'll start polishing a hickory stick for you to use.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27883 @ 0.00082529 = 23.0116 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: OMG Cryptsy DOGE and Vircurex DOGE are a parity at 44 satoshis per
justusranvier: BingoBoingo: ?
BingoBoingo: justusranvier: Your Blackmarket article.
justusranvier: What about it?
BingoBoingo: I look more at the Grey market, but... sympathize with you that the power of BTC as better money materializes first in areas that need money most.
justusranvier: It's a simple matter of math. If you want to run a successful venture, then target the potential customer base that is growing rather than the one that is shrinking
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082529 = 3.3012 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Right. I just though it was timed with a conversation I was supposing wherein for some people the most profitable market might be a synthetic grey market against themselves
BingoBoingo: In other news justusranvier My brother's dog gets its stutches out tomorrow. My brother isn't a synthetic of you is he???
justusranvier: That's creepy.
BingoBoingo: It happens.
BingoBoingo: You aren;t a dentist are you?
justusranvier: I am not a dentist
BingoBoingo: Then you aren't my brother and he is not you.
justusranvier: Good to know
BingoBoingo: Story for the dog injury differs a bit.
BingoBoingo: So, F. My brother and his wife's dog is mostly corgi, the rest other herding dogs. Plays alpha in all of his canine interactions or else spirals into depression.
BingoBoingo: Brother and wife babysat a "puppy (80 lb pitbull mix)"
BingoBoingo: Frank walked by while the "puppy" was guarding a 'bear (stuffed animal)' under the coffee table.
BingoBoingo: The puppy bit F. the dog I think is cool. Details start getting vague.
BingoBoingo: F. goes to the vet gets stitched. Pitbull mix lives, because... I dunno why.
artifexd: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 613.25, Best ask: 613.26, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 613.25, 24 hour volume: 3782.25595179, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 618.7, 24 hour vwap: 603.100162552
BingoBoingo: I dunno why I think this is important (or do I WANT) the CIA/NSA/OMGWTFBBQ to think I am a drunk????
justusranvier: Both of my dogs are bitches. They squabble fairly frequently, but don't need to draw blood.
BingoBoingo: What I know is that since I like F. the "puppy" would have been corrected more efficiently if I was there. F. weights just about 30 lbs...
BingoBoingo: Mostly hair
BingoBoingo: F. also has immaculate ettiquette around infants.
BingoBoingo: For some 80 lb pitbill puppy to lay teeth on F.... I regert not being there to treat him as one does a coyote.
BingoBoingo: Except. Coyotes seems to price risk well and leave when I piss on their favorite dumpsters.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect you might be the only one here who knows the first thing about the craft of sports bet. << Not much craft really, mostly pricing risk for puchase or sale\
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00082422 = 3.4617 BTC [-]
atcbot: 30k@279 45k@277 48k@275 | 930k@199 750k@175 216k@160
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 275 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 95k High: 238 Low: 199 VWAP: 222
assbot: pomp
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.01304657 = 0.548 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.03799 = 0.7978 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00082418 = 35.4397 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.0008238 = 21.0069 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.19297246 = 2.3157 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 135 @ 0.03079906 = 4.1579 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00082356 = 18.283 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12362 @ 0.00082613 = 10.2126 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00082762 = 8.4417 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42250 @ 0.00082855 = 35.0062 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44600 @ 0.00083052 = 37.0412 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.038 = 1.52 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @ 0.03795895 = 4.3653 BTC [-] {3}
pankkake: why is sepa so slow :(
pankkake: btc goes +30 eur between the day I command the wire and now
pankkake: that's actually why otc is nice, we fix the price before
jurov: otc does not use sepa?
pankkake: everytime I've bought, the price was fixed beforehand
pankkake: well my bank is closed today I think, so that won't be today either
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00082449 = 17.2731 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42200 @ 0.00082406 = 34.7753 BTC [-] {4}
davout: hello -assets
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 630.31, Best ask: 632.94, Bid-ask spread: 2.63000, Last trade: 630.31, 24 hour volume: 8073.41651022, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 639.2, 24 hour vwap: 616.667553759
ThickAsThieves: i made the price go up!
Naphex: gz!
Naphex: :P
pankkake: https://twitter.com/oleganza/status/483256552938536960 that was a the top of reddit. someone still on twitter tell him to bitbet or stfu :)
assbot: Tomorrow US will announce auction winners for confiscated 30K bitcoins. I predict the price will be at least 3x the market (>$1800/btc).
ThickAsThieves: someone else redditted that they knew all the winning bids
ThickAsThieves: all bullshit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.0379789 = 1.4812 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: pankkake i still don't understand. regardless if you sell at otc or on exchange, the moment sepa transfer is initiated, the price is fixed anyway
jurov: or do you have some trick for otc?
pankkake: jurov: I want to buy, but I can't because the wire isn't done yet
jurov: oh buying
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 170 @ 0.03381006 = 5.7477 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44392 @ 0.00082603 = 36.6691 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00082289 = 23.6169 BTC [-]
pankkake: ;;later tell oleganza next time bet instead of twit http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 days 10 hours ago
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: I have a friend in the USMS and I know the sale price. Ask me any details you want. : Bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1458 @ 0.00082621 = 1.2046 BTC [+]
fluffypony: ;;later tell moiety it arrived safely - and thanks for the sweets!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: ;;rated moiety
gribble: You rated user moiety on Sat May 3 17:09:00 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: the Cat Lady of Bitcoin Assets.
fluffypony: ;;rate moiety 3 handler of goods, logistician extraordinaire, lover of manuls
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user moiety has changed from 1 to 3.
fluffypony: can't believe they can jam 1tb into that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.03205462 = 0.8655 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00082974 = 3.9828 BTC [+]
assbot: Parents of Pirate Site Admin Sentenced For Money Laundering | TorrentFreak
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.20509999 = 0.8204 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25002 @ 0.00082616 = 20.6557 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6348 @ 0.00082289 = 5.2237 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 393 @ 0.00215227 = 0.8458 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 357 @ 0.00216405 = 0.7726 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: how can this be in the same line, "100% profitable" and "no scam" << maybe you should be banned from reading advertisings.
ThickAsThieves: maybe the copywriter is dyslexic
mircea_popescu: Confirmed total: 15001 BTC << look at that, bitbet passed 15k bet
ThickAsThieves: question, what if we don't find out what the coins were purchased for at auction today, and we have to wait for a FOIA request or such? (re: http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/)
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 days 13 hours ago
ThickAsThieves: bet has resolution date of today
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 6492 @ 0.00018905 = 1.2273 BTC [-] {26}
mircea_popescu: so we wait
mircea_popescu: there's precedent, some miner bet was delayed a week
punkman: how come nobody has made a brainwallet for GPG yet? however stupid that would be.
assbot: arttukasvio/deterministic GitHub
mircea_popescu: let me point out it'd be pretty stupid
pankkake: oh cool. I would have thought the ginormous key size prevented it
pankkake: why?
mircea_popescu: narrow keyspace
pankkake: lol the project has a web interface
punkman: all kinds of crap in there
mircea_popescu: anyway, you need about 9 or 10 dicelisted words.
mircea_popescu: as a bare minimum
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> so we wait /// perfect, thx
pankkake: funny how the Cardano doesn't exist yet, and it already modified my crypto processes
pankkake: mostly related to hardware keylogging and $5 wrench attack
assbot: ronnix/oneid GitHub
ThickAsThieves: i wonder what that is
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.0127 = 0.508 BTC [+]
pankkake: just a read-only namecoin web frontend. like nameid.org
ThickAsThieves: didnt know about nameid.org
ThickAsThieves: just seeing if anyone has made a fancier WoT
pankkake: doesn't really provide WoT, just unique identities
ThickAsThieves: davout, i forget what we ended up guessing, but i have a more recent info-share that says 1PH cost more like $500,000 now. Not sure if that was for chips only though...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43800 @ 0.00083129 = 36.4105 BTC [+] {3}
pankkake: ThickAsThieves: you have a note waiting as "ThickasTheives"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00082851 = 15.4103 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i think may have seen it
gribble: I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, bitcoinpete, buanzo, Cametam, EricNakamoto, fbastage, frankenmint, Immukization, iwilcox, moiety, mrbutler, ninjashogun, nubbins, oleganza, organofcorti, phelps, Phinnaeus, plezoh, princesnell, princessnell, ryepdx, sic_nic, starsoccer9, ThickasTheives, and tweeeaks.
ThickAsThieves: ;;notes ThickasTheives
gribble: Sent 2 weeks, 5 days, 11 hours, and 32 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Altcoin is holding me back.
ThickAsThieves: I'll tell Altcoin to ease up on ya BingoBoingo
assbot: Bitcoin FOIA Request | bitquant
benkay: <BingoBoingo> Brother and wife babysat a "puppy (80 lb pitbull mix)" // lol some puppy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.191 = 0.955 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: !up zoinky
ThickAsThieves: !up powergorilla
PowerGorilla: huh ty
zoinky: hello
asciilifeform: pankkake: doesn't exist yet, and it already modified my crypto processes >> impatient man can, theoretically, make his own, just based on the description.
assbot: Julian Assange Plans Modeling Debut At London Fashion Show - Slashdot
benkay: subject of dogs, my monster was just eating breakfast when something happened outside that caught his attention. he howled at it but with a throat full of food so it came out in this hilariously muffled "wooooOOoOooOOoo", after which he coughed his food up onto the floor, 'cause naturally the body doesn't like doing all of those things at the same time.
benkay: after the distraction passed, he went back to the pile of food on the floor and cleaned it up.
benkay: fucking disgusting, and yet.
benkay: <3 pooch
mike_c: benkay:;;later tell mike_c https://atc.waroflife.com/rules/minigame/1/ "this page" has no link. << oops. thx.
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
benkay: morning, mike.
mike_c: g'morning
benkay: Mats_cd03
Mats_cd03: hi qt
benkay: how you doin babe
benkay: get a job yet?
Mats_cd03: boring job. still IT slave.
Mats_cd03: but...lots of free time at work to learn things i wanna do. like reversing
mike_c: ;;later tell BingoBoingo i'm here, fire away
gribble: The operation succeeded.
[]bot: Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/974/
[]bot: Bet created: "Yen to strengthen against Dollar" http://bitbet.us/bet/975/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00083232 = 13.0674 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: !up mp_on_a_boat
mp_on_a_boat: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 620.07, Best ask: 621.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.93000, Last trade: 621.0, 24 hour volume: 11302.36777974, 24 hour low: 592.01, 24 hour high: 639.2, 24 hour vwap: 618.817826703
mp_on_a_boat: so is it going all the way to 670 prior to usms disclosure ?
ThickAsThieves: hard to say, but i think we'll have more uppage
ThickAsThieves: no idea if auction winners an dprice will be shared today
mp_on_a_boat: norwegian made they say
asciilifeform: mp_on_a_boat: yours? or chartered
mp_on_a_boat: nah, normal ferry service
asciilifeform: when do we get mp_on_atomic_dirigible ?!
mp_on_a_boat: only after we have an airforce.
mp_on_a_boat: wtf, i dun wanna be flying around in the clay pigeon
mp_on_a_boat: o boy such log.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97855 @ 0.00083262 = 81.476 BTC [+] {2}
mp_on_a_boat: BingoBoingo: For a couple months I made it my mission to shove as much video into the NMC blockchain as possible << why ?
pankkake: dirigibles don't work on the moon
mp_on_a_boat: justusranvier: It's a simple matter of math. If you want to run a successful venture, then target the potential customer base that is growing rather than the one that is shrinking << complex. take one of the largest scams out there, the LVHM conglomerate.
mp_on_a_boat: they pretend to sell to the shrinking market (young hawt chicks) to then sell inclusion to the growingt market (ugly fat broads)
pankkake: pretend to sell to the rich, sell to the poor
fluffypony: BEST BELIEVE HE'S ON A MOTHERFUCKING BOAT, YO
assbot: I'm On A Boat (ft. T-Pain) - Album Version - YouTube
mp_on_a_boat: you threatenin; me ?
pankkake: fluffypony: oh, that's maybe why this on a boat was tingling me
fluffypony: mp_on_a_boat: you gotta listen to that song, but probably not around children
mp_on_a_boat: a ok. well there's these blondy 6yos running all around.
mp_on_a_boat: safe ?
fluffypony: as long as they don't understand the word "fuck" it's fine
fluffypony: or you have headphones
mp_on_a_boat: yeah, right. this exists.
Apocalyptic: fluffypony, gotta love the lyrics
Apocalyptic: so deep
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: ikr, it's the very meaning of life right there
fluffypony: right thurrrrr
Apocalyptic: I feel ya
pankkake: this boat is real!
mp_on_a_boat: dude this sucks. when did this rebellion happen when all o youze are doing the porn and im all nsfFw
fluffypony: oh speaking of which, there was a cheap porn star / photographer at the conference
pankkake: I was surprised the image you posted was SFW
assbot: gia jordan (giajordan) auf Twitter
pankkake: did you tell her she could get 0.1 BTC easily?
fluffypony: I avoided talking to her
mp_on_a_boat: why ? postcoital halitosis ?
fluffypony: mp_on_a_boat: nah, she just wasn't one of those fun pornstars, she was one of those still-at-the-bottom-looking-for-a-rich-boyfriend types
asciilifeform: mp_on_a_boat: why'd you snip the end off the cocksnipper tale? it has a proper end.
fluffypony: and she had an annoying accent
justusranvier: mp_on_a_boat: There are always outliers. Imagine a hypothetical experiment where you start 100 companies with the goal of capturing growning shares of shriking markets, and another 100 companies that try to gain market share in growing markets, and at the end see which group ends up better on average.
fluffypony: from LA or something
mp_on_a_boat: fluffypony, lol ok.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00083296 = 15.0766 BTC [+]
mp_on_a_boat: asciilifeform, ah ?
asciilifeform: maybe it was tacked on after you translated
mp_on_a_boat: justusranvier, i think that arrangement may suffer from statistical problems i don't readily grasp.
mp_on_a_boat: asciilifeform, ah in romanian ? meh, that part was retarded.
mp_on_a_boat: curating children mostly consists of discretely snipping the stupid parts.
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mp_on_a_boat: funny how redditarded the redditafrds are. guy has priviledged unpublic information, what does he do, are we asked to believe ?
asciilifeform: 'pump.'
mp_on_a_boat: a) puts it on reddit, to gain redditard fame worth 0.00x ltc ; b) bets on bitbet, mto gain whatever it is by now
asciilifeform: !up mp_on_a_boat
mp_on_a_boat: shame on you assbot!
mp_on_a_boat: pankkake: mostly related to hardware keylogging and $5 wrench attack << win.
mp_on_a_boat: ThickAsThieves: davout, i forget what we ended up guessing, but i have a more recent info-share that says 1PH cost more like $500,000 now. Not sure if that was for chips only though... << sounds like chip only.
asciilifeform: chip only << it really isn't hard to mount these yourself. odd that no one has fessed up to doing so.
asciilifeform: (all you need is a reflow oven. can buy chinese for around $1k (USD) or build the classical recipe from old toaster)
asciilifeform: (and, optionally, a dentist's xray tube)
mp_on_a_boat: benkay:fucking disgusting, and yet. <<< i guess you never told a girl "if you throw up im going to make you fucking eat it up" and then carried through ?
mp_on_a_boat: Those of us who do not participate in the underground economy are often unaware of its breadth: it grew to include one half of the worldÂ’s workers by 2009, and is projected to include two-thirds of workers by 2020. << this is important. i make it a point to contribute whenever possible. my cards here for instance ? paid cash, no paper trail, 20% discount for me and so another hundred bucks added to the free world.
mp_on_a_boat: because make no mistake about it, what the scum of this world calls "black market" is actually the free world.
mp_on_a_boat: the bexzz
mp_on_a_boat: the bezzle economy is a crime against humanity.
mp_on_a_boat: anyway, excellent point from justusranvier. at this rate ima end up a negligible voice in this space or some shit.
mp_on_a_boat: "Every time a new startup launches, or a new software project announces, ask one question: “Does this new thing improve the black market?”
mp_on_a_boat: If the answer to this question is “no”, then the thing is useless."
mp_on_a_boat: i mean look at that shit.
benkay: <mp_on_a_boat> benkay:fucking disgusting, and yet. <<< i guess you never told a girl "if you throw up im going to make you fucking eat it up" and then carried through ? // lol no sir
pankkake: didn't a few states start accounting for the black market in their GDP?
benkay: i've seen the odd near-puke mid bj, but that's not quite the same now
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justusranvier: pankkake: They'll soon have to, because within the next 5-19 years that will be the only economy
justusranvier has difficulty typing right now due to a broken thumb
Apocalyptic: pankkake, didn't France too ?
assbot: Spain's Black Market Economy Is Worth 20% of Its GDP - Roberto A. Ferdman - The Atlantic
pankkake: I don't know, I heard it on the radio while waking up, so I'm fuzzy on who did it
Apocalyptic: gotta inflate the number somehow to show growth am I right
mp_on_a_boat: they can count it lal the want
mp_on_a_boat: my neighboiurs are counting all the girls vcoming up to my floor too.
Apocalyptic: Italy did it for sure
Apocalyptic: and afaik it was some UE-wide recommendation
mp_on_a_boat: anyway, off i go. late trall!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52750 @ 0.00083105 = 43.8379 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: mp is on a boat?
thestringpuller: ...i should buy a boat...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03571 = 0.7142 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19101174 = 0.573 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: zero ev boat
thestringpuller: benkay is just a hater
thestringpuller: justusranvier: you can get anything on the black market lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00083016 = 8.3016 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform as a boy thought 'black market' was an actual market, that one could actually go to. because, at the time and place... it was.
BigBitz: TradeFortress in -otc :)
dignork: asciilifeform: incidentally: whatever happened to the automatic multi-chain coin exchange? << I've seen some theoretical solution - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Atomic_cross-chain_trading
assbot: Atomic cross-chain trading - Bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] [PAID] 3.50000000 BTC to 40`000 shares, 8750 satoshi per share
asciilifeform: dignork: there is no actual need for the specialized altchain
dignork: yep, but first solution doesn't need one
asciilifeform: dignork: unless i misunderstand - btc protocol as presently implemented cannot do this
asciilifeform: 'if (x for H(x) known and signed by B)'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] [PAID] 5.00000000 BTC to 50`000 shares, 10000 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00083012 = 8.7163 BTC [-]
dignork: asciilifeform: it's non-standard tx, but i think it's a valid script
benkay: did y'all see the "sleep as competitive advantage" link on the nyt today?
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 15c2b9bc3b93e0c0a037c5fa8402d0e34e13d3bb0ce7fca65888e5d24e597dcc
mthreat: benkay: just saw it but didn't read it, is it good?
benkay: meh.
benkay: the girl's recently gotten rather militant about our sleep schedules - i'm interested in the topic at large.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00082978 = 27.4657 BTC [-] {2}
mthreat: my goal is always 8 hours a night
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39962 @ 0.00082881 = 33.1209 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: <benkay> the girl's recently gotten rather militant about our sleep schedules - i'm interested in the topic at large. < mine had that idea at some point as well. now i go to sleep when she wakes up.
benkay: pfshaha
benkay: what - do you not actually want to spend any time with her?
xmj: there'll still be an overlap of 8 hours wake time
xmj: or 12, depending how much kakobrekla sleeps.
kakobrekla: i do, just 16 a day is way way too much
xmj: bingo
thestringpuller: isn't 8 hours the norm?
thestringpuller: and sleep debt
benkay: ah, kakobrekla you and she are both in the house all day then?
benkay: now - for my favorite part of django archaeology: why is this code that should be getting called not getting called?
kakobrekla: benkay mostly. she works at home and i, well, you know me.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0355 = 0.781 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu mp_on a boat To experiment with blockchain bloat. Thankfully NMC miners don't like big transactions
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mike_c: hey bingo.
mike_c: you had feedback from your wol binge?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00082821 = 14.7835 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.0355 = 0.781 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Yeah. I'm noticing the bomb mechanics seem vulnerable to last minute sniping with a bid one unit higher. I dunno if time weight or maybe making bomb type a chance based on the size of life or death pools might make things more interesting
punkman: mike_c: about bomb sniping, you could let people bid in advance (maybe with some limit logic), so they don't have to watch until the last minute
mike_c: problem with making it odds based on pool is that it offers reducing incentive to contribute. i fell on the side of winner take all being more interesting. i am not married to it though.
BingoBoingo: Also mike_c How sure are you that the decimal odds on the order/chaos minigame are... correct.
mike_c: the site's not broke yet :)
punkman: mike_c, I'd love another button that lets me step frame by frame
mike_c: punkman: well, bids are based on what makes it into a block. could you describe what you mean a bit?
mike_c: punkman: noted.
punkman: the animation, I want to watch it slowly
mike_c: got that. not sure what you meant about bomb-in-advance bidding
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.61231584 BTC to 10`784 shares, 14951 satoshi per share
punkman: like let me bid 50 on the last round before the next bomb, without having to wait for the Next Bomb timer go down to 1 or 2
mike_c: hm. i'll have to think through mechanics/implementation of that. seems like it would just make the bomb pot hidden until all the bets landed on the last frame.
BingoBoingo: That would be sweet
mike_c: would it? silent auction instead of open?
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, btw looks like your friend TF is back on IRC
punkman: mike_c, also in wishlist, simulate further rounds assuming no more bombs go off, probably not very useful, but it'd be nice to watch
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Fuck it, I'm hung over. Anything that needed to be said has prolly been said already.
mike_c: punkman: that is actually very doable. it's on the list somewhere.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00082694 = 33.0776 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: or maybe simulate with random bombs so it's different every time
mike_c: heh. that is more an excercise for the interested player.
punkman: why's the minigame so slow btw?
mike_c: to load you mean?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0355 = 0.71 BTC [+]
punkman: is it one minigame at a time for everyone?
mike_c: no
punkman: slow to start game, place bets
punkman: can't lose my money fast enough!
mike_c: well that's a problem!
punkman: myeah
mike_c: a recognized one. it's currently a polling architecture. i want to switch it to sockets, which would speed it up.
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punkman: mike_c: great game btw, can't wait to see how it works with more players
mike_c: thanks. i am encouraged by early feedback. it will continue to get better.
punkman: mike_c, is there a reason it doesn't have any sort of time weight when buying shares?
mike_c: the weighting is different from time (and better imo).
mike_c: it's weighted by current board state.
punkman: yeah I see that
mike_c: so, for example in game 10, the best time to buy death was frame 1
mike_c: cuz now it's more expensive
mike_c: the best time to buy life is still to be determined.
mike_c: unless life storms back, in which case you could get death cheaper later.
mike_c: in any case, point is that there is a shifting balance that rewards paying attention at multiple points through the game as opposed to rewards just decreasing over time.
kakobrekla: making people think. always a dubious idea.
mike_c: heh. improved help is also on the list. i'm thinking video tutorials.
punkman: yeah but let's say death stays at %70 for the rest of the game. Someoney buying 1k ATC at year 950 gets the same amount as the guy that bought on year 437. Shouldn't the earlier guy win more?
mike_c: it's like an option. a guy who buys the option early is buying time value.
mike_c: now, in your case that time value didn't work out.
mike_c: doesn't mean he didn't have an advantage when he bought it
mike_c: in effect, he lost the bet that buying early would be advantageous
mike_c: see what happens when you get me blabbing about this? too much blabbing.
punkman: I see
benkay: wait this is too much blabbing?
mike_c: i gotz work to do!
benkay: this is not too much blabbing. the internals are v. interesting.
benkay: no no less code more talk
mike_c: but j/k, feedback is much desired.
mike_c: <+kakobrekla> making people think. always a dubious idea. << also, minigames require no thought :)
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 390045.54 in 1244 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -23.75
assbot: Barclays Not Smart - Bloomberg View
benkay: haw
BingoBoingo: "When you just put institutional investors in a pool that excludes high-frequency traders, they have a hard time trading with each other. There's not, it turns out, all that much natural liquidity." << This
davout: GOAAAAAL
davout: in the 2014 world cup it's the french that have urgent proposals for nigeria
mike_c: "The chart is a chart of how much chart there is." << lol
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fluffypony: davout: from French princes?
pankkake: BingoBoingo: depends on what HFT means for them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00083127 = 9.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 43 @ 0.012892 = 0.5544 BTC [+] {3}
bitstein: hey bitcoinpete
bitcoinpete: hey dude
bitstein: how's it going?
assbot: immibis comments on I'm tired of people thinking their altcoins are superior because they have shorter block times
fluffypony: I lol'd all the way through
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: lol dat thinking
bitcoinpete: bitstein: quite nicely, it's a beautiful, quiet day here
bitcoinpete: most people have the day off because tmrw is a holiday for canada day
bitcoinpete: how's it with you?
bitcoinpete: oh and rather looking forward to the germany game. just so they can score 1 more goal!
bitstein: lol canada day
fluffypony: bitcoinpete you're in Toronto right?
justusranvier: Has anyone done Brawndocoin yet? It's got electrolytes.
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: edmonton. gateway to the north ;)
fluffypony: justusranvier: it's got what plants crave? shut up and take my money!
justusranvier: Brawndocoin - the transaction mutilator. It's got what blockchains crave.
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: ah ok - Peter Todd was talking about the Bitcoin crowd in Toronto, made me think of you
bitcoinpete: a yes, the to crowd...
bitcoinpete: they do the "alliance" and "ethereum" schemes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 47 @ 0.03509467 = 1.6494 BTC [-] {7}
bitstein: Very innovative. Much 2.0.
bitcoinpete: 2.0: a euphemism for pre-mined pumps and dumps
fluffypony: I'm waiting for the Bitcoin Assets Foundation to start
bitcoinpete: "Most importantly, if they persist too long, ultra-low rates could validate and entrench a highly undesirable type of equilibrium – one of high debt, low interest rates and anaemic growth."
bitcoinpete: "Central bank balance sheets – including the Fed’s – have continued to expand and now exceed $20 trillion in aggregate, worldwide."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32950 @ 0.00083185 = 27.4095 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: Speech by Jaime Caruana, General Manager, Bank for International Settlements
assbot: Canada's Law on Spam and Other Electronic Threats - Home - Canada's Anti-Spam Legislation
bitcoinpete: ^goes into effect tmrw
bitcoinpete: all e-mails dealing with "commerce" require opt-in and proof of existing business relationship
bitcoinpete: or another reason to gpg
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 623.0, Best ask: 623.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.98000, Last trade: 624.0, 24 hour volume: 11919.67750693, 24 hour low: 592.15, 24 hour high: 639.2, 24 hour vwap: 619.45166829
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00083168 = 23.0791 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: ;;nethash
gribble: 119194939.289
bitcoinpete: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 308640 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1823 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 11 hours, 14 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15640182448.7 | Estimated Percent Change: -7.00587
bitcoinpete: weird..
mike_c: it'll be a kick in the pants if diff is back under 14bn on bastille day.
TomServo: How so?
mike_c: bitbet was "on or before", so it already resolved.
mike_c: but for the no bettors, it would be irritating to be "right" but have lost.
TomServo: Ah - I thought you were implying it wasn't and there was a chance it could go the other way.
mike_c: not going to happen, but, bingo's summer heat theory may be playing out :)
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Right idea, implemented too early
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12820 @ 0.00083185 = 10.6643 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.03212127 = 1.9273 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13241 @ 0.00083185 = 11.0145 BTC [+]
assbot: Announcement: The SecondMarket / Bitcoin Investment Trust bidding syndicate for the US Marshals bitcoin auction was outbid on all blocks
assbot: So basically at least USD$20MM of bitcoin buying demand went unsatisfied in the auction and will look elsewhere to buy bitcoins i.e. market
mthreat: are barry silbert and alan silbert related?
assbot: New Venture Aspires to Be the Sotheby s of Bitcoin - American Banker Article
mthreat: "His brother, Alan Silbert, will run BitPremier from Gaithersburg, Md."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79978 @ 0.00083127 = 66.4833 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 570 @ 0.00218853 = 1.2475 BTC [-]
pankkake: %diff
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 390697.91 in 1230 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -23.62
pankkake: pretty cool that the diff is 512k though. 512s everywhere
benkay: ;;google trilema discreet escort
gribble: The discreet escort, or how Bitcoin makes prostitution ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-discreet-escort-or-how-bitcoin-makes-prostitution-unprosecutable/>; Why exactly reusing Bitcoin addresses strengthens Bitcoin ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2014/why-exactly-reusing-bitcoin-addresses-strengthens-bitcoin-user-anonimity/>; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34672 @ 0.00082641 = 28.6533 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9178 @ 0.00082531 = 7.5747 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: what was todd saying about the torontonians?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.01288984 = 0.5285 BTC [-] {4}
FabianB: $traded
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: D.BPAY D.BTGO S.MPOE X.EUR
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1942 @ 0.00082531 = 1.6028 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: <+pankkake> pretty cool that the diff is 512k though. 512s everywhere /// 512 is my spirit number
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: did a gypsy with money braided in her hair tell you that?
cgcardona: o/ hi bitcoin-assets
ThickAsThieves: no it came to me via cosmosis
benkay: hola cgcardona
bitcoinpete: cgcardona: how's island life these days?
cgcardona: Figured this would be as good a place as any to get some insight into the unfolding of the auction
cgcardona: benkay: o/
cgcardona: bitcoinpete: great :) thanks for asking. Wrapping up this chapter and preparing to move back to the bay area
cgcardona: we're going back to santa cruz this time. Leaving kauai in about 2 weeks
cgcardona: (if you consider santa cruz "the bay area". many don't)
bitcoinpete: cgcardona: eh that's coming up fast
bitcoinpete: it's close enough for a northener
bitcoinpete: northerner*
cgcardona: yea. we were planning on doing 6 months on island but my wife isn't diggint it here too much this time so we're headed out a month early
cgcardona: yea close enough for me too. I can drive into SF in like 35 minutes or so
benkay: ;;later tell Vexual hit me up next time you're online
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mthreat: I loved kauai
mthreat: hanalei dolphin, awesome sushi
cgcardona: yea it's my fav hawaiian island for sure
cgcardona: i met my wife here in 2002 new years eve
cgcardona: :) - you nailed it mthreat
mthreat: did you do the kalalau trail?
cgcardona: yep - in fact that's why I came here originally in 1999. to camp out for a month over new years 2000 in kalalau
mthreat: nice
cgcardona: we actually drove ot the top of the hill yesterday to overlook it https://twitter.com/cgcardona/status/483409146088140802/photo/1
cgcardona: i didn't get to go into the valley this time though. too busy w/ work
mthreat: wow that photo.. i remember visiting that spot, if it's where I think it is
cgcardona: yea at the top of the mountain in koke'e
cgcardona: magical spot.
cgcardona: really great island. lots of california -> kauai connect so lots of cool people around
cgcardona: surfers, nature.
cgcardona: it's really great. but… its a small island
cgcardona: so small town vibes apply
cgcardona: that's why we do 1/2 time here and 1/2 ttime in the bay
cgcardona: ThickAsThieves: wow
cgcardona: !v chax
cgcardona: !voice chax
mthreat: !up chax
mthreat: !up
assbot: Huobi and LakeBTC Added to CoinDesk Bitcoin Price Index
assbot: MegaBigPower Launches Global Franchisee Network to Add 50PH/s Per Month to Bitcoin Network
mthreat: !up
mthreat: !up chax
mthreat: finally
chax: Ah thank you
rithm: wiggle wiggle wiggle
rithm: megabigpower eh
ThickAsThieves: LakeBTC has a lower rate than the rest, they be gaming dat index
mthreat: ThickAsThieves: is that a mining operation?
cgcardona: chax: you'll need to get GPG/PGP keys into the WoT in order to voice yourself in the future
rithm: megabigpower sounds like Happy Luck Mining, Co.
ThickAsThieves: mthreat the pic? it goes with the next link i think
rithm: oh shit i'm a vetted candidate and i know how to mine
rithm: i have free power
rithm: sign me up negro
benkay: hey chax - finally we meet
chax: Yes - what's everyone excited about in herE?
rithm: mircea isn't here trolling
ThickAsThieves: USMS SR Coin Auction
rithm: i'm pretty excited about that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32350 @ 0.00082409 = 26.6593 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: i was telling the traders Silbert wasnt gonna get any coins
ThickAsThieves: they were like no way
cgcardona: ThickAsThieves: yea that's pretty big news
rithm: interesting to see confirmation that he was assumedly outbid
cgcardona: guess there were some really high bids or he underbid (unlikely)
rithm: prior to official results
cgcardona: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 639.0, Best ask: 639.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 639.9, 24 hour volume: 14668.86126860, 24 hour low: 592.15, 24 hour high: 647.09, 24 hour vwap: 622.948357222
rithm: 2ndmarket overbid by 11 million USd
cgcardona: damn
BingoBoingo: I'm guessing Auction results will be well above market
rithm: mmhmm
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: you expected silbert to lowball?
rithm: or it was rigged
rithm: or someone is lying
cgcardona: so is the traditional wisdom that the market will swing upwards to match auction price sound advice?
mthreat: could have been PR stunt on his part
cgcardona: *sound wisdom
ThickAsThieves: i expected the syndicate to lowball
ThickAsThieves: since it's all derp "qualified investors"
ThickAsThieves: like 46 people
ThickAsThieves: no chance of a good bid
bitcoinpete: cheapskates pullin the group down
rithm: USMS confirmed 11.25 million in secured escrow
rithm: 46x 250k
rithm: or whatev in deposits
rithm: oh right
ThickAsThieves: i meant 46 in the 2ndMkt syndicate
ThickAsThieves: which was a min on $25k ea
rithm: but i'm saying the USMS today released the # of bidders
rithm: but my math is flawed assuming each bid is separate
ThickAsThieves: i think it was 200k deposit
rithm: why is probably incorrect
assbot: US Marshals Release Update on Silk Road Bitcoin Auction
rithm: The agency told CoinDesk that 45 registered bidders participated in the event, and that 63 bids were received over the course of the auction,
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 643.27, Best ask: 643.32, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 643.27, 24 hour volume: 14706.01506302, 24 hour low: 592.15, 24 hour high: 647.09, 24 hour vwap: 622.986624544
rithm: 45 times deposit
rithm: that's your escrow
rithm: 63 bids
assbot: California Governor Grants Bitcoin 'Legal Money' Status
ThickAsThieves: yay now we can use bitcoin
rithm: set your asks for "the moon" and kick back and drink a beer?
ThickAsThieves: if they announce price today, i imagine market will move toward that price pretty vigorously
rithm: i'm interested to see how quickly
rithm: and i'd agree
cgcardona: who exactly will announce a price? surely not the USMS right? wouldn't it be barry and/or another bidder?
rithm: i'm guessing the winner
ThickAsThieves: depends, USMS did not explicitly say they would announce winning amount publicly, but people already have FOIA requests in
rithm: no reason really not to
rithm: i mean if you won you might as well pump it to the price you paid amirite
ThickAsThieves: the auction didnt seem to promise any privacy or whatever
ThickAsThieves: maybe theyll email it out by mistake
cgcardona: let's hope
rithm: CC all the biddersd quick!
cgcardona: they mass email out the private keys
rithm: it was me I'd annouce that I paid %50 more than i did
rithm: is that ethical?
mike_c: lying?
rithm: is it lying?
rithm: or is it a press release
rithm: i can't tell
cgcardona: you could say "I paid n--give or take 50%' ;-]
xmj: ThickAsThieves: i hope the us govt / cali state government does *not* make the market.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.03543955 = 0.6379 BTC [+] {4}
xmj: ThickAsThieves: do you know your history, in particular what happened after the us govt set a price for gold in the 30s -- and the opposite, in the late 60s early 70s?
ThickAsThieves: i think you are taking it to extremes
ThickAsThieves: they are providing a signal in this moment
ThickAsThieves: nothing more
ThickAsThieves: even themn,
ThickAsThieves: it's the bidders makign the signal
ThickAsThieves: not the USG
cgcardona: xmj: I don't know my history so to speak. can you explain more how what you're saying relates to today's news?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00082477 = 19.2996 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Reserve_Act i imagine hes referring to this and others like it causing price per troy to go up?
assbot: Gold Reserve Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
cgcardona: Mats_cd03: cool thnx
mike_c: not so much causing it to go up. more like not preventing it from going up.
bitcoinpete: wait… DannyBrewster_ neobee dood is here?
pankkake: you know anyone can take any nick
mike_c: !up DannyBrewster_
BingoBoingo: !up ziggamon
pankkake: !up mp_on_a_pony
mp_on_a_pony: hello DannyBrewster_
DannyBrewster_: hi
mp_on_a_pony: how's life on the run?
benkay: mp_on_a_pony: how's laptop on a horse?
DannyBrewster_: from what?
mp_on_a_pony: what makes you think it's a horse
Mats_cd03: mike_c: later, yeah.
benkay: what, are you astride a small keg?
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ziggamon: hey guys
pankkake: I didn't get it
benkay: what's up ziggamon
ziggamon: figured i’d finally say hi :) creeped here a few times, been reading some of your blogs for a while
assbot: Keg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
pankkake: I was more implying ponygirl. but well
bitcoinpete: well that was anti-climactic
assbot: 403 Error
assbot: Error 403
bitcoinpete: look at benkay go!
benkay: i got distracted by all the tied up babes
benkay: plus stuff in buttholes
benkay: it's far better than the corrupted vcs repositories on this staging and production server a client handed to me
benkay: on this cluster
benkay: git surgery dot butts dot com
Mats_cd03: i hope ur charging 3x time
benkay: yeah i think this warrants an email to client
Mats_cd03: unfucking something you didn't do is a low circle of hell
benkay: "hey your previous developers left a great big fuck off steaming pile of shit on the floor of your production instance. it's going to take me a while to clean it up. you'll pay."
benkay: i'm also billing for the cliquot necessary to get me through this mess.
BingoBoingo: Almost sounds cheaper for them to just... start the fuck over
ThickAsThieves: BNP giving US $8.3b
Mats_cd03: clicquot?
benkay: Mats_cd03: right.
dub: veuve
benkay: FINE
Mats_cd03: they're going to start over alright
benkay: yeah, this client gets no more support.
benkay: it's a shame, as they spent 10k on just upgrading this shitstack to django 1.not-quite-current
benkay: and another 5 for me to just unfuck the remaining shitsnarls
benkay: and if they want a thing that works its going to cost them 15 next year.
benkay: if i'm even taking contracts of that size next year.
benkay: it's time for a RAGEBIKE
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00082574 = 14.6569 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;sell 0.5 BTC @ $5k/BTC USD Method of delivery negotiable
gribble: Error: '$5k/BTC' is not a valid price input.
cgcardona: benkay: thanks for the words of wisdom regarding getting clients to pay. got someone emailing me right now asking for 'equity' work and you're words were just what I needed to read.
cgcardona: *your
benkay: cgcardona: referring to my ragerant above?
xmj: cgcardona: the problem with the US government setting the gold price that at first, having gold priced way over market rates, that created a huge inflow as everyone scrambled to sell gold to the USG at inflated prices
cgcardona: I appreciate the feeling
xmj: cgcardona: that was in the 1930s, maybe 1940s
cgcardona: "fuck you pay me" if I may paraphrase
benkay: hah yeah, that's a decent approach.
benkay: this client's not a bad client, they just hired some bad devs in the past.
xmj: cgcardona: then, in the 1960s, the reverse happened - the USD price set by the government was below what the market would've raised.
xmj: cgcardona: leading to a massive outflow
xmj: cgcardona: (it went so far that France sent a plane carrier along with the accompanying ships)
BingoBoingo: cgcardona: The thing about "equity" work is that even if they become big, on the route to becoming big they will prolly find ways to dillute their eariler payments of equity a la Dogecoin
benkay: don't get into business with people you don't trust.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 642.36, vol: 15266.76200095 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 638.338, vol: 13456.86623 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 639.98, vol: 22066.38500861 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 651.91, vol: 60.03909813 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 638.893632, vol: 13832.41720000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 637.06801, vol: 18.67301073 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 642.88635, vol: 186.20235541 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: average: 639.986390828
Mats_cd03: hmm...
Mats_cd03: ;;more
gribble: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
Mats_cd03: o nm you did it. har
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00082596 = 10.9027 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00082643 = 6.5701 BTC [+]
assbot: BitBet - World Cup 2014: Germany to net more than 7 goals :: 5.84 B (92%) on Yes, 0.52 B (8%) on No | closing in 1 week 6 days | weight: 48`171 (100`000 to 10`000)
cazalla: gee that was a close ending
bitcoinpete: cazalla: mhm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.00082532 = 30.2067 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11283 @ 0.00082643 = 9.3246 BTC [+]
benkay: SPOARTS
benkay: SPO
benkay: ARTS
benkay: SPO
benkay: ARTS
benkay: GOOOOOOOOO SPORTS
mike_c: oh sweet, soccer is over and we can watch sports now?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.03079906 = 0.924 BTC [-]
benkay: although can't complain about the .02 btc per 'footie' bet bitbet's going to pull down
benkay: zing, mike_c
benkay: it's almost as though you're american
cazalla: i hate sport but the world cup is something else
cazalla: but i played soccer as a kid not to mention the fact australia only returned to the cup since 06 so the past 3 have been enjoyable
assbot: Angels slugger Albert Pujols slowed by swollen lymph gland in groin | MLB.com: News
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.01 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/974/ Odds: 27(Y):73(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.58623333 BTC. Current weight: 99,242.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7617 @ 0.00082898 = 6.3143 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16043 @ 0.00082465 = 13.2299 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33850 @ 0.00082255 = 27.8433 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 25 @ 0.03079906 = 0.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03540415 = 0.7081 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00082648 = 22.5629 BTC [+]
assbot: RainMan28 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
mike_c: !up RainMan28
RainMan28: thanks mike_c
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11233 @ 0.00082715 = 9.2914 BTC [+]
mike_c: np
RainMan28: benkay, you around?
assbot: ClubOrlov: People on the move
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00083098 = 3.9056 BTC [+]
assbot: Massachusetts high court orders suspect to decrypt his computers | Ars Technica
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9671 @ 0.0008285 = 8.0124 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 77 @ 0.019 = 1.463 BTC [+]
mod6: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 391032.26 in 1204 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -23.55
mod6: wow @ game #10
mike_c: get it while its hot
BingoBoingo: The only thing that might make WoL substantially better would be Klye having ATC
[]bot: Bet placed: 4 BTC for Yes on "Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/877/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 93(Y):7(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.905 BTC. Current weight: 67,683.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 77 @ 0.01440459 = 1.1092 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00082854 = 25.6847 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47509 @ 0.00082805 = 39.3398 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00082657 = 9.8775 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: nuts
benkay: ;;later tell RainMan28 next time send me a pm, i'll read it when i get back
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00082809 = 4.5545 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;ident RainMain28
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
benkay: ;;gpg info RainMan28
gribble: User 'RainMan28', with keyid F2825626E97847CF, fingerprint 30AD187AF62F6E7AA829B02AF2825626E97847CF, and bitcoin address 1MpuiLaZdk7JHtbic9C5Js95DdCBNyGcuA, registered on Sat May 31 17:50:39 2014, last authed on Sun Jun 29 03:04:52 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=RainMan28 . Currently authenticated from hostmask RainMan28!~RainMan28@unaffiliated/rainman28 .
assbot: RainMan28 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
benkay: !up RainMan28
benkay: ;;ident RainMan28
gribble: Nick 'RainMan28', with hostmask 'RainMan28!~RainMan28@unaffiliated/rainman28', is identified as user 'RainMan28', with GPG key id F2825626E97847CF, key fingerprint 30AD187AF62F6E7AA829B02AF2825626E97847CF, and bitcoin address 1MpuiLaZdk7JHtbic9C5Js95DdCBNyGcuA
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.03211175 = 0.7065 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: ;;ident caerian
gribble: Nick 'caerian', with hostmask 'Caerian!~caerian@cpe-184-56-179-89.neo.res.rr.com', is identified as user 'Caerian', with GPG key id 571A02E6E01766F6, key fingerprint 7C5922F713D60AF3300E7578571A02E6E01766F6, and bitcoin address 1FYyJ3BW1MPHutc92Atw3XVQZ7V9Q1Bbqg
benkay: ;;gettrust caerian
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Caerian!~caerian@cpe-184-56-179-89.neo.res.rr.com. Trust relationship from user benkay to user caerian: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=caerian | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=caerian | Rated since: Fri Feb 1 15:14:20 2013
benkay: ;;gettrust RainMan28
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask RainMan28!~RainMan28@unaffiliated/rainman28. Trust relationship from user benkay to user RainMan28: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=RainMan28 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=RainMan28 | Rated since: Fri Jun 6 17:17:21 2014
benkay: more chapters in the saga: http://pastebin.com/FeinL812
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAG - Pastebin.com
benkay: !up RainMan28
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00082809 = 7.0802 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;rate RainMan28 1 +v
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user RainMan28 has been recorded.
RainMan28: thanks benkay
benkay: RainMan28: you can now !up yourself via PM to assbot
RainMan28: yeah, for anyone wanting the tl;dr version, ninjashogun has been soliciting a $30,000 investment daily in bitcoin-otc for the past few days and doesn't seem to be who he says he is. Maybe just a scammer, but maybe something other than that too. Not sure.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5334 @ 0.00082809 = 4.417 BTC [+]
bloctoc_: If I ever put together an investor deck (which I won't) I swear to assbot that I will ask for a "new suit and used rolex submariner"
RainMan28: yeah, seriously
bloctoc_: If ninja shogun was really a good steward of investor funds, he would ask for a used suit instead of new.
RainMan28: when I read that, wasn't sure if he was trolling
RainMan28: or it was truly amateur hour up in here
RainMan28: I can't purchase a suit or a desktop computer, please trust me with your $30,000
bloctoc_: the graphics setup is pretty sweet thought. I assume it's so he can build a kick ass flying horse for eulora?
BingoBoingo: I can't get over the Rolex Submariner's pointy bazel
BingoBoingo: *bezel
BingoBoingo: I have to say though I wished more makers would follow the Rolex model of using bracelet pins that are acctually screws
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/974/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.72623333 BTC. Current weight: 98,930.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00082815 = 10.8074 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: mr spam never tires!
asciilifeform kindly requests that muppeteer change the muppet routine a bit. this one is getting old, fast.
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BingoBoingo: <ninjashogun> 6) I will buy a suit, a used Rolex submariner, and travel and meet with a respected VC I have a warm intro to. (This part is secret and a bit embarrassing, let's not pastebin it) << Why the fuck is the Rolex anything resembling necessary
asciilifeform: pig wants lipstick ?
asciilifeform: fellow should get a 'montrex.'
mike_c: at least he's not getting gold embossed business cards :p
asciilifeform: !s montrex
BingoBoingo: Honestly the best place to shop luxury watch brands is the Pawn shop
asciilifeform: tlp had a good essay on watch cults
asciilifeform: (regarding how no serious wealthy fashion slave would be caught dead with 'rolex' etc)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.03079906 = 0.616 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: ;;google the last psychiatrist rolex
gribble: The Last Psychiatrist: Luxury Branding The Future Leaders Of The ...: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/11/luxury_branding_the_future_lea.html>; The Last Psychiatrist: Thank God The 'Heart Attack Grill' Is A Great ...: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/05/thank_god_the_heart_attack_gri.html>; The Last Psychiatrist: So At Least Two People Agree With Me: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: Honestly given enough pawn shop visits the most impressive pieces can be foun for ~$100-200 (Movados without the retarded Museum dial and others)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.01916 = 0.5748 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: On my list of things to own eventually list is a Bulova with the "tuning fork" movement.
asciilifeform doesn't get the point
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: My desire for tuning for watch is timekeeping purposes and aesthetics. It is a technology that should have continued instead of fading as it did.
asciilifeform: if you actually give a damn about timekeeping - hard to justify mechanical clock.
asciilifeform: this is where the old tech conclusively, truly, lost.
BingoBoingo: Of course, but aesthetics can justify a lot of things. Atomic clocks aren't that expensive, but not wrist portable. Quartz an dmechanical movements alike have become sweat shop products. The tuning fork electromechanical stuff though has to be sought out as it lost
BingoBoingo: If flourocarbon fishing line had been discountinued I would seek it aggressively as well.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what's the nice thing about the tuning fork scheme ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Actual smooth movement of the second hand. The lack of such a thing is why I tend to pluck the second hand off of many watches.
BingoBoingo: The quartz 1 beat per seconds and the mechanical 4-12 beats per second are an abomination to the eye.
BingoBoingo: !up jonvaage
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I only appreciated the difference working at a watch stand changing batteries in other people's machines.
jonvaage: Hi everyone, nice place you got here.
BingoBoingo: Thank you jonvaage, what brings you here?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Value of tuning fork watch is like value of a Mazda miata. Not priced ostentatiously, but there is something about the good that afficianados can appreciate.
jonvaage: I'm from Austin, and a few of my friends recommended this channel and so I got set up with the WoT last night.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: quartz resonator in electronic clock (or for that matter every other piece of digital widgetry) is a tuning fork
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: your complaint is with the geating on electro-mechanical clocks.
asciilifeform: *gearing
BingoBoingo: Of course
BingoBoingo: If quarts drove 37.5k beats per minute there would be no problem
jonvaage: bitcoinpete helped the process along thanks to his blog.
BingoBoingo: jonvaage: Cool, what do you do?
jonvaage: Structural engineering grad student, but I've been doing a lot of technical diagrams for Open Transactions lately.
BingoBoingo: *If quartz drove 37.5k beats per second
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: get a soviet copy
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If you know of any leads they would be appreciated
BingoBoingo: jonvaage: Cool, working with anyone in particular on OT?
jonvaage: Mainly Justus Ranvier and Chris Odom
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Oh shit, google delivers
assbot: The Accutron Revolution - Accuracy Through Electronics 1960-1977
asciilifeform: ^ don't have such a thing myself, can't comment
jonvaage: I'm planning on helping overhaul the OT wiki starting later this week
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2774 @ 0.00082648 = 2.2927 BTC [-]
jonvaage: BingoBoing: how about yourself?
TheNewDeal: what is the OT jonvaage?
bloctoc_: yep, I'm pretty sure this is the biggest threat to bitcoin right now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZcvniWtTBI
assbot: Bitcoin in the Beltway - ZHOU TONGED - YouTube
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This chinese one http://www.decadecounter.com/accutron/tianjin214.jpg looks most like Bulovas I've seen
jonvaage: TheNewDeal: OT = Open Transactions
BingoBoingo: jonvaage: I just do misc work. Sometimes private contracts turn into public things.
assbot: Open Transactions
assbot: Voting Pools: How to Stop the Bitcoin Thieves
jonvaage: BingoBoingo: any public things I might have heard of?
BingoBoingo: jonvaage: F.MPIF thedrinkingrecord.com
asciilifeform: 'voting pool' idea << sybil magnet
asciilifeform: and what does one need to smoke to see the pluses of the concept of letting competitors vote on whether you can spend your coin ?
BingoBoingo: Honestly I dunno of many people who improved the Bitcoin "ecosystem" moar than Pirateat40
TheNewDeal: hahah
asciilifeform: i just don't get it. people keep asking to bake 'democracy' in
BingoBoingo: Without Pirate impoverishing idiots I dunno if hitting $20 a second time would have been possible.
jonvaage: I don't think it's out of love for democracy.
jonvaage: Haha, I've said more than once that scammers are pro-social in an anti-fragile system.
asciilifeform: it's out of a bizarre lsd trip idea that 'crowd has wisdom' and voting can sum intelligence
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.18965 = 1.5172 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up jonvaage
BingoBoingo: The social problem means little compared to the scarcity virtue
TheNewDeal: crowd has wisdom is true though
TheNewDeal: at least, that's what they taught it in an engineering statistics class
asciilifeform: 'If of ten men, nine are recognizable as fools, which is a common calculation,' says our Intermittent Friend, 'how in the name of wonder will you ever get a ballotbox to grind you out a wisdom from the votes of these ten men? Never by any conceivable ballotbox, nor by all the machinery in Bromwicham or out of it, it will you attain such a result. Not by any method under Heaven, except by suppressing, and in some
asciilifeform: good way reducing to zero, nine of those votes, can wisdom ever issue from your ten.'
asciilifeform: (guess who)
benkay: Naggum!
asciilifeform: carlyle
benkay: godamnit
assbot: Page not found
BingoBoingo: jonvaage: The nice thing is that over time the scammers become less relevant of necessity
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9652 @ 0.00082606 = 7.9731 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is far from a physical inevitability. you will find systems that reach a steady state of appalling scammitude.
asciilifeform: ('lemon market' and similar phenomena)
jonvaage: BingoBoingo: Exactly, they just serve as highly effective educators by reducing information asymmetry.
TheNewDeal: highly effective educators?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well thanks to Cex.io Bitcoin seems largely stuck in a phase like that nao. I think persistent steady states are mythical beings though.
TheNewDeal: are you telling me that those Middle Eastern King scams educating anyone?
asciilifeform: scammers sometimes even succeed in breeding an entire class of dedicated chumps.
assbot: ClubOrlov
BingoBoingo: Of course they breed chumps.
BingoBoingo: Chumps see no cost to their reproduction
asciilifeform: breeding - as in actual breeding of organisms who feel they live in vain if they aren't milked. as we did to, e.g. cows.
jonvaage: What's the phrase? Sometimes a person's sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.
BingoBoingo: ;;sell 0.5 BTC at $10000 per BTC Delivery method negotiable
BingoBoingo: jonvaage: Usagi?
BingoBoingo: jonvaage: So you have some history to be reading
BingoBoingo: ;;google Usagi lost wallet
gribble: BMF has lost access to it's wallet | Bitcointa.lk: <https://bitcointa.lk/threads/bmf-has-lost-access-to-its-wallet.321036/>; BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated] - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.0;all>; Lost and Found Chapter 1: Prologue, a sailor moon fanfic | FanFiction: <https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8328628/1/Lost-and-Found>
BingoBoingo: jonvaage: The returned links are only the most recent chapter in Usagi history
BingoBoingo: ;;sell 0.5 BTC @ $5000
gribble: Error: '$5000' is not a valid price input.
jonvaage: BingoBoingo: Alright, thanks. I'll get digging.
decimation: for folks who are interested, here's a pretty good series of "how to solder" videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NU2ruzyc4&list=PLA8CAE64E6ADF634E
assbot: How and WHY to Solder Correctly - YouTube
BingoBoingo: ;;sell 0.5 BTC @ 5000 USD
gribble: Order id 20961 created.
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