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MisterE: ante
MisterE: how you gonna get work and rated if you dont idle...
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BingoBoingo: Right now my big concern is not getting tornadoes
MisterE: ;; later tell antephialtic I'm looking for someone to take a site idea from napkin to prototype, contact me especially if you have SE/ranking experiences
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MisterE: heh even with crap syntax
MisterE: BingoBoingo: you in the alley?
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Near St Louis
MisterE: ahh yea
MisterE: shit gets reak there sometimes
MisterE: real*
BingoBoingo: Two big hits in the area the last 24 hours
BingoBoingo: Beither went this far east yet
MisterE: I have a friend in KC
MisterE: thats where the L&C arch is right?
MisterE: and it has a sister city?
MisterE: across the river?
MisterE: I been gone so long forgot geography of home
BingoBoingo: Well it has the arch
BingoBoingo: More the Jefferson expansion than anything else
BingoBoingo: East St Louis is a place too
BingoBoingo: East StL isn't so bad compared to North Saint
BingoBoingo: KC's got good BBQ
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nubbins`: hey kids
BingoBoingo: The way this winter's been with the Jetstream acting up I wouldn't be too surprised if we got a derechero
BingoBoingo: hey nubbins`
nubbins`: it's time for Ineffectual Poster Critique, where you offer constructive criticism on a poster i've designed and i ignore your suggestions because it's late and i'm tired
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
BingoBoingo: Needs moar cunt
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Also a heavier weight paper couldn't hurt
nubbins`: NO DICE
nubbins`: 50lb red kraft paper
nubbins`: and that's that!
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: WHat about 1/8" Z-weighted sheilding material
nubbins`: we do a lotta work for these guys... they got in touch TODAY asking if we could do 40 shirts and 30 posters for sat night
nubbins`: nothin' like a rush job
nubbins`: y'know, i've toyed with the idea of doing posters on tyvek
nubbins`: i think you'd need special inks tho
BingoBoingo: tyvek is some nice stuff
nubbins`: yep, uline sells rolls of it
nubbins`: anyway i gotta get these films printed and burn some screens
BingoBoingo: I think if I did a junkyard wars laptop of my own, tyvek would be the wrap of choice
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Design wise though, maybe distrubute some accident looking dots of Dutch FIreball
nubbins`: ehhhhhhh, i'm not huge on the "messy" aesthetic
BingoBoingo: I hear that color really pops for the red-green colorblind crowd
nubbins`: too many screenprinters use it as a crutch to disguise poor technique
BingoBoingo: It is like magic fucking ponzi dust to colorblind people though
nubbins`: i much prefer to torture myself trying to produce perfect floods. even the noise on the yellow is a bit out of character for me
nubbins`: oh ya?
BingoBoingo: I think it looks like an off orangy red, but...
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BingoBoingo: ;;later tell benkay notes to compare
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chetty: total breakdown of civilization is not far away
BingoBoingo: Are you sure it hasn't happened some places?
chetty: nope, I am sure it has - its just spreading
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: here's what the drawing is loosely based on: http://imgur.com/ZSS1Eps
cazalla: niggers, what else would you expect?
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Nice
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BingoBoingo: cazalla: Honestly hard to tell at this point
cazalla: No, it's confirmed
cazalla: driver was white too, what idiot white guy still lives in detroit
BingoBoingo: Well being black doesn't make anyone a nigger more than being white keeps anyone from being a nigger.
BingoBoingo: Eminen could have been driving through the neighborhood where all of the brain surgeons live
cazalla: i guess that explains why these mob attackers are always black
nubbins`: shrug, we had daily swarmings at my high school. all white kids
BingoBoingo: Oh, just now most of them are black
BingoBoingo: white mobs happen, spic mobs happen, wop mobs happen
cazalla: whens the last time a bunch of white people put a black person into a coma because he bumped a white kid who was too stupid not to play in traffic
nubbins`: i don't have the stats in front of me, but probably like a week ago
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I will decline to comment
cazalla: nubbins` you would know then that black on white crime is much larger than white on black
BingoBoingo: When's the last time someone who wasn't a Abbo went on a crime spree in Australasia
BingoBoingo: Fuel by gas fumes
cazalla: not near the % of any other demographic
nubbins`: you americans are so angry
cazalla: i'm not even american
chetty: meh its not skin color, its culture (or lack thereof)
nubbins`: what!
cazalla: it's genetic
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: cazalla is an aussie
nubbins`: ahhhhh
BingoBoingo: cazalla: nubbins` is a Canadian
nubbins`: we share a queen
cazalla: bend the knee
BingoBoingo: As a 'Murican I feel much safer on trips to East Saint Louis than I do to either North St Louis or Gretchen Wilson's hometown of Pocahontas Illinois
cazalla: i don't know why she permitted all this immigration throughout the commonwealth
cazalla: but even as someone who has never been to detroit, i know you don't get out the car if you run a youth down
nubbins`: because she's a figurehead with no real authority? ;(
BingoBoingo: cazalla: More important is why you just don't go to Detroit
cazalla: Poor prick did the right thing and now he'll probably die
BingoBoingo: Sure for a brief time in history being in Detroit may have been excusable as they presented industry as a surrogate for culture.
BingoBoingo: Now, without industry the lack of culture is the defining feature of the area
cazalla: I don't think it has anything to do with culture but more so a genetic basis for their lack of culture and chimpish behaviour
chetty: cazalla, like the forum?
BingoBoingo: The forum is kind of self selecting.
cazalla: a lot of em are young, they'll grow out of it
cazalla: majority of blacks however will not
cazalla: i wasn't even that far right until the leftist idiots kept pushing this white privilege bullshit
cazalla: anyway, wrong crowd here for me to be inflammatory towards, nothing to gain in doing so
BingoBoingo: It isn't a problem of white priviledge or black degeneracy. It is... Degeneracy
chetty: well I do get what cazalla says about things getting pushed, it just stirs people up and tends to create things like this
BingoBoingo: And this is the reason why society needs institutions that beat people down
ozbot: Electronics, Cars, Fashion, Collectibles, Coupons and More | eBay
nubbins`: god help us
nubbins`: "mining contracts"
punkman: nubbins`: that's gonna turn out well...
MisterE: what could possibly go wrong?
punkman: hmm maybe I should get one of these guys to mine some ATC for me
BingoBoingo: I dunno that there is anything easier to fake for a profit than "mining" contracts
BingoBoingo: punkman: atc has strong bid and ask walls
BingoBoingo: may be fakeable?
cazalla: buyers are probably thinking the same thing with chargebacks via paypal
cazalla: it's a minefield on both sides
ozbot: Contracts Mining Pool Sites and Teams
nubbins`: fuck, popped a screen
MisterE: inverter?
MisterE: usually is
punkman: not that kind of screen
MisterE: awww bummer
nubbins`: not the end of the world, but still a bummer
MisterE: there's a shop around the corner from me and they regularly ask for help with English
cazalla: what's that in the background, free photography?
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nubbins`: FREE tiny piece of photo paper
nubbins`: came with a printer
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nubbins`: fuck this, time for bed
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BingoBoingo: So... booze, what do people OL now favor?
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BingoBoingo: Clausewitz for people looking to equip n00b armies:
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zacm: <cazalla> i wasn't even that far right until the leftist idiots kept pushing this white privilege bullshit LOL
zacm: blowback. that's why the us libtards better hope the tea party prevails in the republican party, because if it doesn't, what will replace it they have not seen in their worst nightmares
cazalla: day of the rope?
zacm: haha
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zacm: how hard is it to get a Yes/No from a govt agency? why so much uncertainty? traders must love it though. https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2266js/btc_china_issues_statement_they_received_no/
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Apocalyptic: more like FUDers love it
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zacm: lovely fud
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zacm: Nigel Farage accused Nick Clegg of “wilfully lying to the British people” and warned that the European project could end in bloodshed during the pair’s second debate on Wednesday night.
zacm: In a heated and confrontational televised debate the leader of the UK Independence Party warned that extremists would resort to “violence” unless the European Union “ends democratically”.
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zacm: "I didn’t think I’d have to get personal, but he is trying to lie and deceive the British people and after 40 years we have had enough."
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VanCleef: man i feel sorry for ex firefox ceo, just because you donate $1000 dollars to a anti gay marriage campaign you get fired, that's some serious heterophobic stuff
pankkake: resigned because twitards got upset? what a faggot
VanCleef: its stupid
VanCleef: it would be like if this guy was muslim and donated to a muslim fund and got fired for that
pankkake: lol, that's old
Apocalyptic: just saw it
Apocalyptic: why the fuck is that is my last bouro news feed
skinnkavaj: So sad that NEOBEE turned out to be a scam/theif like most of all here.
skinnkavaj: I am not holding any shares thank god, but I feel sorry for those who do
VanCleef: wasn't a suprise tho
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skinnkavaj: Worst of all it gives bitcoin a bad reputation in Cyprus, when NEOBEE was supposed to be the opposite
VanCleef: bitcoin has made scamming easier
VanCleef: its never goign to be taken seriously
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VanCleef: sfi will be the next scam to fall apart
VanCleef: i promise you that
pankkake: sfi?
VanCleef: on havelock
pankkake: it's a scam from the start, it's never going to be profitable for investors and they damn well know it
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mircea_popescu: ahaha these idiots are epic. so mpoe-pr left bitcointalk, and no longer being visible is no longer teh evil mastermind. ThickAsThieves is still around, and so therefore he's it.
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mircea_popescu: fucking reptile brain, completely driven by what it immediately perceives.
mircea_popescu: this is how thousands of policemen get shot each year, notwithstanding they're just lowly blue collar workers indistinguishable from the criminals shooting them in most respects.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, nobody shoots a politician. why ? well... he has enough sense not to hang out with the fuckwits.
VanCleef: heh yeh i was just reading that
VanCleef: really tarded stuff
Apocalyptic: got a link ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins'`* your poster sucks because no penises.
gribble: Error: That is an invalid IRC nick. Please check your input.
mircea_popescu: you gotta be kidding me.
TomServo: it's just the middle one i think :P
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I dunno that there is anything easier to fake for a profit than "mining" contracts <<< actually, it's a direct translation of the EVE "protection contract". ask diametric he knows how that works :D
mircea_popescu: zacm: blowback. that's why the us libtards better hope the tea party prevails in the republican party, because if it doesn't, what will replace it they have not seen in their worst nightmares << this is actually correct, or at least i think the same. if teaparty doesn't take over by a large margin, by 2020ish there will be summary executions on the grounds of "being now or having ever been a social justice warrior".
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mircea_popescu: pankkake:resigned because twitards got upset? what a faggot << this, pretty much. your skin's that thin, you have no business there.
mircea_popescu: skinnkavaj: I am not holding any shares thank god, but I feel sorry for those who do << you also feel cheeky towards your intellectual superiors, and maintain the delusion that your head works. this is much worse than having held shares in the scam du jour.
mircea_popescu: in fact, it'd have been better for you if you lost your house, wife and child to neobee.
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DudeSj: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'DudeSj', with hostmask 'DudeSj!~linux@2600:1004:b018:c803:58da:d22d:c42d:fa73', is not identified.
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Apocalyptic: chetty, they should have picked the photo of Putin on his bear imo
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mircea_popescu: Log in ?
punkman1: mircea_popescu: fixed, I think
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mircea_popescu: not bad.
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kakobrekla: want access to wiki punkman1 ?
punkman: kakobrekla: I can write a script that turns them into dokuwiki format
kakobrekla: well, i asked if you want editing rights
punkman: sure, why not
ozbot: Fred Quimby and ancient evils pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: prepare to haet mp.
dexX7: what i hate about glorious linux stuff: simple "install scripts" never work and it ends in endless searches and manual fixes <.<"
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punkman: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'punkman', with hostmask 'punkman!~punkman@unaffiliated/punkman', is identified as user 'punkman', with GPG key id 33588BE08B232B13, key fingerprint F28E0095843B91CB22E7D65533588BE08B232B13, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: dexX7 word.
mircea_popescu: FREE PUBLICITY! BUY NEO
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punkman: mircea_popescu, idea for bitbet, play-money tournament like http://goodjudgmentproject.com/ maybe with some BTC prizes
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mike_c: hehe. i love how they characterize them :) "Cyprus-based bitcoin marketers Neo & Bee "
mike_c: the press gets it right for once
artifexd: Today's trilema hurt my feelings. I don't want to be fungible. "I am fungible." What a depressing thing to say.
pankkake: fungible is a pretty good insult
pankkake: I'm definitively going to steal that one
artifexd: The thing is, I'm happy programming. I enjoy it. It fills me with a sense of accomplishment. In my day job, it fills me with a sense of importance and value. And yet...
artifexd: I guess I shall spend the weekend doing some soul-searching on whether being "fungible" is acceptable to me. I suspect the answer will be "no".
artifexd: I suppose part of the question is "fungible to who?" While I may be fungible at my day job. I'm certainly not fungible to my daughter. I am probably not fungible to my wife. I am, without a doubt, fungible in #bitcoin-assets.
artifexd: Who, exactly, do I want to be "not fungible" to?
pankkake: I left a comment
artifexd: Whole lotta thinkin' to do...
mircea_popescu: mike_c i saw that yeah
mircea_popescu: punkman there's at least 100 of these things. basically "market forecasting" is the 2014 version of the million dollar webpage.
mircea_popescu: everyone wants to make his own.
mircea_popescu: artifexd your feelings are more fungible than you are :D
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chetty: all coders maybe created equal, don't mean they gotta stay that way
mircea_popescu: pankkake answert :D
mircea_popescu: irc pingdom
artifexd: If by equal you mean "equally crappy", yeah. All coders/programmers start shitty.
mircea_popescu: no he has a solid point. fungible code is good code. you know that famous poem do you ?
ozbot: The Story of Mel
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i srsly considered adding big fat penises to the poster
nubbins`: didn't wanna force it ;p
mircea_popescu: masturba-whatever, must has penis
mircea_popescu: at least octopussy, something.
nubbins`: amusingly, google image search for "monsterbator" is turning into a pink eye portfolio
mircea_popescu: that'd be because you're weirdos.
nubbins`: they are too, so it's a nice fit
mircea_popescu: they look more like two plumbers.
nubbins`: can't argue
ozbot: Monsterbator - Fashionista on Vimeo
mircea_popescu: women in tech, long ago.
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nubbins`: men with initials for names
nubbins`: hey, i'm D.D., this is K.A.
ozbot: Neo & Bee talk (spam free thread) | Page 23 | Bitcointa.lk
mircea_popescu: plambert should write the manual on "how to create a 20 page thread in a day"
mircea_popescu: "Illogical? As in giving your money to a bankster wannabee to fund a bank because you hate banksters?"
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nubbins`: man, i just came across my ebay tab, opened to the "mining contracts" category
nubbins`: and had myself another lel.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: that's almost poetic
nubbins`: death to banks, long live bankesque things
mircea_popescu: such self loathing, self consuming nonsense, this western world of the muppetsd.
nubbins`: like a snake eating its tail but instead of a snake it's a man and instead of a tail it's a dick
mircea_popescu: "I'm new here, for what it's worth, but your ability to offend and act like an idiot is apparent. You have no friggin' idea why I invested in Neo & Bee. Really. You are illogical. Your statement's so far have been illogical (due to incomplete information) and you act like they're logical without even beginning to take a wise or mature stance on the issue by way of accepting you don't know what you're talking about most
mircea_popescu: of the time (purely by virtue of the universe's mechanisms; that's not a personal slight)."
thestringpuller: nubbins`: isn't that an ouroboros?
mircea_popescu: "also, my butt inexplicably hurts. INEXPLICABLY I SAY! and has nothing to do with the head sitting atop it."
nubbins`: the snake one is, yes
mircea_popescu: penisbordos ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i stopped reading at "your statement's so far"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` there was some derp at some point going for about 200 words pretending like he's a bigshot
mircea_popescu: then dropped a there in there. you know, instead of their.
nubbins`: bigshot who doesn't read books, apparently
mircea_popescu: adult audience groaning "o yes of course, lots of big shots have trouble with junior high grammar"
nubbins`: i saw this proposed as a captcha replacement once
nubbins`: "they're there their" in three images, with a sentence underneath
nubbins`: pick the correct one and gain access
mircea_popescu: lol. let all the spamscripts in but none of reddit ?
nubbins`: yes!!
ozbot: Who cares about robots, here's a much more practical CAPTCHA. - Imgur
mircea_popescu: “Following those posts on the forum, I received direct threats targeted directly at my daughter"
mircea_popescu: should have been "i received a directory of direct threats directed directly at my daughter"
mircea_popescu: because he's on the board of directors see.
ThickAsThieves: is that really the quote?
mircea_popescu: so sayz whatever cyprus thing
the20year2: oh my
nubbins`: man. so i ordered a bunch of supplies on wednesday. put my debit card number into three different websites instead of my credit card number
nubbins`: been getting all these emails saying my orders are on hold ;(
nubbins`: ;;seen ukyo
gribble: ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 hours, 54 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <Ukyo> mgio_: ping
asciilifeform: unrelated:
ozbot: Michael Lewis: shilling for the buyside | Locklin on science
mircea_popescu: stories from a different hell :
mircea_popescu: "oligarchical reptiles who are destroying Western Civilization" check the guy out.
nubbins`: poorly thought-out decisions:
ozbot: What Music Should I Listen to As I Attempt 50 Mile Ultramarathon With No Training to Raise 50 Bitcoi
nubbins`: fifty miles. without training.
nubbins`: "I know it's it going to suck. I know it's going to hurt. And I know it won't be easy. But, that's why I want to do it."
nubbins`: i can't even express the amount of fail on display here
mircea_popescu: well, are there going to be a fifty girls following him a mile each with cattle prods and clear orders to cattle prod him without respite unless he runs?
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nubbins`: that's 80 fucking kilometers
mircea_popescu: cause i'd pay 50 btc for this particular snuff video.
nubbins`: your body would break down
mircea_popescu: "man killed with cattle prods"
nubbins`: literally, he will cripple himself before the first 10k is up
mircea_popescu: it's a good and useful thing.
nubbins`: at least he's not trying to start an exchange
mircea_popescu: he should die a bloody painful death so the rest of redit observes directly that no, you can't do anything "you set your mind to".
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mircea_popescu: guy;s so far the most respectable of the whole bunch. provided he actually does die.
nubbins`: "I'm just trying to shed some positive light on Bitcoin"
nubbins`: by dying on the road
nubbins`: seriously. a regular marathon isn't big enough
mircea_popescu: tbh this nonsense has exactly 0 to do with bitcoin
nubbins`: so he's gonna do two back-to-back
mircea_popescu: it's a mental problem of kids that weren't allowed to get hurt.
nubbins`: nevermind that seasoned runners will train 8 months for a marathon
nubbins`: mircea_popescu he'll certainly be allowed to get hurt if he shows up to this race
nubbins`: ah, my sides.
nubbins`: anyway, work to do!
mircea_popescu: i walk a good 10 miles a day, but i wouldn't bother trying to run50
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khersonus: do you walk 10 miles for the purpose of getting somewhere, or just for exercise?
mircea_popescu: khersonus i tend to walk a lot. i like european-style towns, where most everything is designed for the pedestrian.
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mike_c: s.mg report coming soon?
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benkay: BingoBoingo: ping
mircea_popescu: likely tomorro.
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khersonus: have any of you seen the "sign message" feature of bitcoin used for a service in the wild?
mike_c: khersonus: coinbr uses it.
mircea_popescu: not really. it's incredibly badly implemented, and perfectly useless seeing how gpg does it better.
mircea_popescu: some people do offer it, but heh.
khersonus: badly implemented, as in, it's not secure?
mircea_popescu: we've never got to the security of it. it's badly implemented as in, let me find the discussion.
khersonus: mike_c: I see, I had a similar idea in mind for proving ownership of coins
mike_c: you can ask jurov how it's worked out for coinbr in practice.
pLambert: what is this, monthly reports? pfht, you should tell us they will be ready in two weeks
mircea_popescu: that convo
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khersonus: in this case it does seem coinbr uses it to secure coins, I'm assuming if you reset an account password you can withdraw
khersonus: mircea_popescu: thanks, will read
mike_c: pLambert: he's just finishing up the neobee acquisition before releasing the march report :)
mircea_popescu: yeah, s.mg is going to re-release neo as a zork-type game
pLambert: wouldn't neeobee acquisition have to go in April? or has he been working behind the scenes this whole time ;)
mircea_popescu: i've hired the something awful experts that made beeboopity to do it.
khersonus: so, bitcoin sig needs: btc address, message, signature. GPG needs: public key, message, signature. About the same, right?
mircea_popescu: khersonus if i can't have a bot to which i go ;;sig blabla and it spits out a "so and so signed this thing on this date" it's useless toi me.
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khersonus: can you do that with GPG? I haven't seen it used before
pLambert: gpg sig includes the date?
mircea_popescu: pLambert it does, yes.
pLambert: cool, I didn't know that
mircea_popescu: it's declaratory (in the sense that the signer can set it to any arbitrary value he wants)
mircea_popescu: but it's there
mircea_popescu: khersonus what do you mean you haven't seen it used before ? gpg altogether or specifically a bot ?
khersonus: specifically a bot
mircea_popescu: i don't need/want one for gpg personally. because i already have the infrastructure in place to do that for me.
mircea_popescu: a contender can't expect me to simply invest in the infrastructure.
truffles: read "i hate change"
mircea_popescu: i do hate change.
mircea_popescu: because if it ain't broken...
truffles: we have that in common
pLambert: .. then you gotta hit it harder?
khersonus: I've seen the MPEX messaging thing with pastebin websites, pretty cool, but, it's not ;;sig
mircea_popescu: change for the sake of change is like...
mircea_popescu: khersonus no, but gpg paste is.
mircea_popescu: it makes 0 diff to me if i type ;;sig in here or gpg in a cli. all i want is to have somewhere i can type into.
khersonus: sure
mircea_popescu: and i ain't running whoever's code, so cli is right out for them. gotta do the bot.
mircea_popescu: now, the problem of making a bot / extending one already present is not worth the mention
mircea_popescu: provided it can be done in the first place.
khersonus: I'm more interested in proving address ownership, which you can't really do with just GPG, as far as I can tell
mircea_popescu: ie, the bitcoin address signature protocol is good enough to support it.
mircea_popescu: so far, seems not.
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mircea_popescu: khersonus you can, if somewhat more circumvolutedly. you sign a gpg "x address will pay 0.04875983 btc to y address at z time"
mircea_popescu: then that event happens and the proof is made.
khersonus: but if I wanted to do this on a larger scale, that is not exactly handy
mircea_popescu: why not ?
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khersonus: it requires a blockchain transaction
pLambert: mircea_popescu: but that requires moving the coins, and bloats the blockchain
mircea_popescu: you can program both gpg via bash and bitcoin client via whatever api
mircea_popescu: well i suppose it does use a tx yes.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how you'd verify btc address signatures on a large scale.
mircea_popescu: if it could be done, i'd have my ;;sig
khersonus: I'm working on something I think you might find interesting, MP, but it will require a few more months of me working on it (just in case I find some hole I overlooked in the implementation that I didn't think of in the planning stages)
pLambert: I was just thinking, for gpg timestamp authenticity, you could add the last few bitcoin block hashes from the blockchain to your message?
mircea_popescu: you're not the only one khersonus :)
mike_c: is it a secret something?
mircea_popescu: pLambert a gpg message including a block and its hash could prove it wasn't made before that block yes
mircea_popescu: like 0000000000000000ab79febd4d7e160246f322fb282e1f3a7c449dd5b5c1ef44#294194 proves this line was written no earelier than 2014-04-04 16:19:01
pLambert: would that be useful for anything?
CheckDavid: There is some guy called pop mircea constantly spamming Facebook btc groups lol
CheckDavid: Always reminds me of mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: pLambert often it turns out such things are, yes.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the above stands except for some blockwitholding attacks, so for instance an empty block isn't advisably acceptable.
mircea_popescu: also some wiggle room on time. but anyway.
pLambert: but how to prove message was not written after some point?
khersonus: mike_c: not really. I'd like there to be a way/market to profit from the BTC/USD price movement, in bitcoin, without there being a possibility of the marketmaker/house going bust, and without the house needing to take the opposite side of a position
mircea_popescu: pLambert by publishing it.
mircea_popescu: it clearly wasn't written after it was published.
mircea_popescu: that part was never difficult to prove historically. the other side is the grand contribution of gpg/bitcoin to legal practice.
mike_c: khersonus: you are familiar with MPOE?
khersonus: mike_c: for sure
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mike_c: have you thought through how to avoid the problems it had?
khersonus: I'm also familiar with CFDs/"binary options"/wotnot that have failed
khersonus: mike_c: yeah, but what I'm working on won't be "options"
mircea_popescu: mike_c well since he says "and without the house needing to take the opposite side of a position" i imagine he's at least tried.
mike_c: well, i am eager to hear about it! not sure how one profits without a counterparty taking the loss.
khersonus: anyway, back to work, great to see you guys are not afraid to talk
khersonus: I'll be sure to let you know how it goes
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mircea_popescu: afraid to talk ? never.
mircea_popescu: in other words, my blog just told me it's only accepting comments from human beings.
dexX7: <khersonus> so, bitcoin sig needs: btc address, message, signature. << ?? you need a privkey and a message to generate a signature.. from the sig+message you can derive the public key
mircea_popescu: and did it in the PLURAL to boot. who the fuck is this we i wish to know.
khersonus: dexX7: yeah, but to verify a bitcoin message, you need those 3 things
dexX7: no, only two
dexX7: well okay. depends on your intention
khersonus: well, bitcoind asks for 3 inputs
dexX7: yes, but it's not necessary
mircea_popescu: they really should respecify the thing, have it spit out a base64 blob which can then be used directly.
dexX7: you can solely use message+sig to get public key/address
khersonus: well, "signmessage "bitcoinaddress" "message""
mircea_popescu: address|message|publickey|digest
khersonus: verifymessage "bitcoinaddress" "signature" "message"
mircea_popescu: should be verifymessage signblob
dexX7: it should have said it's not possible with bitcoind
dexX7: but other clients or tools
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truffles: at work on irc?
khersonus: by "back to work" I meant "back to coding". I don't have a "day job"
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truffles: coding..
truffles: i can triple task too
khersonus: well, obviously my attention is not directly focused on coding at this exact moment
truffles: sure
truffles: so how many errors did u make since
khersonus: none, I haven't typed single key yet in vim either
khersonus: very productive! :P
truffles: uh huh
khersonus: (yet, meaning since I said that I would) anyway...
truffles: id rather hear about ur coding fails or procastinations than this gpg ..
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ThickAsThieves: So I posted about out the Supreme Court found that "narcotic checkpoints" are unconstitutional, in the local community Facebook group. Guess what most people replied?
asciilifeform: what braggartry! the things i don't understand... could fill a galactic library.
truffles: it stops terrorism?
ThickAsThieves: "The fact that they randomly are checking cars sounds good to me! That's how they find the people that are hiding there drugs! Why would you be so worried about it? If they pull me over at random I have no problem with them checking my car cuz I have nothing to hide! Things like this help keep the community safe and drug free!"
ThickAsThieves: "I think I will call the Sheriff and tell him Thank You and good job officers !!!"
cmyers: I have no idea why you are reading my random blog entries from 6 years ago.
ThickAsThieves: "Really! If you think you can do a better job, strap on a vest, join the force and get your butt out there!"
truffles: cmyers good topic
truffles: some ppl itc appear to know it all
truffles: TAT what did u expect lol
ThickAsThieves: " I don't think it would be an issue if they were stopping everyone. The fact that they are picking and choosing is the problem."
ThickAsThieves: "Don't have drugs or illegal possessions in your vehicle and you have nothing to worry about."
cmyers: I've come a long way over the years. I'm happy to say I'm engaged, in a fulfilling job, etc etc. But in particular, I've spent a lot of time studying (armchair-studying) epistemology, and how people know things
cmyers: certainty is the biggest enemy of truth.
truffles: what is ur religious preference?
cmyers: I am an atheist.
truffles: are u certain of this?
cmyers: no. I lack a belief in a god, which is what atheist means
truffles: just a stab at that certainty think
truffles: thing*
danielpbarron: police will rip your car apart trying to justify the search, and then they might plant evidence if nothing turns up! #nothingtohide
cmyers: I am open to evidence to the contrary, but thus far I ahve seen no evidence
truffles: so ure certain?
danielpbarron: a food says there is no God
cmyers: I am certain I do not believe in a god. I am not certain there is no god
cmyers: to discuss how certain I am, you ahve to define which god you are talking about.
truffles: well then ure agnostic imo
danielpbarron: cmyers: the Jesus Christ of the Bible
cmyers: truffles: no, that is now how those words are defined. I am an agnostic atheist
cmyers: agnostic and atheist are not mutually exclusive
cmyers: you can be gnostic or agnostic, theist or athiest
truffles: pick a side
cmyers: false dichotomy fallacy
cmyers: there is no "two sides"
cmyers: it is an axis
cmyers: if you believe there is a god, but aren't certain, then you are an agnostic theist
danielpbarron: it is not man's role to choose to believe; God causes belief and disbelief
cmyers: for example
cmyers: danielpbarron: if that is true, then god caused me to disbelieve.
truffles: here lies why id prefer discussions with a troll than a "knowlegeable" person cuz at least the troll knows he's trolling
cmyers: truffles: wait, which of those are you?
Apocalyptic: hard to tell
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cmyers: anyways, if you would like to continue this discussion, join #atheist on snoonet.
cmyers: erm, #atheism
benkay: snoonet
cmyers: I idle in there as well.
benkay: irc of reddit
truffles: i dont consider myself a troll
benkay: much derp
truffles: i cant with the atheists, theyre very certain of things
cmyers: truffles: I could say christians love blowing up abortion clinics
cmyers: but that isn't very fair, is it?
cmyers: depends on which christians you talk to
cmyers: don't generalize
truffles: its very rare to find a reasonable one though
cmyers: some atheists are certain, but that is not what atheism means
danielpbarron: abortionists deserve to be executed
cmyers: the literal meaning of atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. that's it.
truffles: at least the ones that self select to those places i have bad experience
cmyers: truffles: look harder.
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cmyers: truffles: I agree, there is much derp on #atheism and /r/atheism and you will find some there
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cmyers: but remember, a "millitant atheist" uses a pen and a keyboard. what does a "millitant christian" or "millitant muslim" use? The words are all out of whack.
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cmyers: it's like apples and oranges.
truffles: they can be religious only in name though
cmyers: who can?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "there drugs". obviously.
danielpbarron: a millitant Christian wields the sword of Truth which is the Gospel
benkay: it's all sound and fury signifying nothing, cmyers
mircea_popescu: cmyers because i have fifty million people employed who no longer read the forum.
mircea_popescu: so now they read... everything else.
mircea_popescu: incredible how good for productivity nonforuming is.
benkay: yeah and i bet cortisol levels too
benkay: you took a decade off that lady's life. shame, mircea_popescu !
danielpbarron: i'm really glad I only recently started checking out the forums; I probably would have been swindled like everyone else if I had read it from the beginning
mircea_popescu: benkay i would guess the work efficiency differential displayed there was about 1000:1.
benkay: such waste.
mircea_popescu: ie, about nine hours' worth of ~3 people's work on my side resulted in comensurate value with maybe 10k hours of 10k muppet's worth
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron are you being ironic or some shit ?
danielpbarron: regarding?
danielpbarron: (no, regardless)
mircea_popescu: also, from the ridiculous tourban department :
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truffles: carmen sandiego though..
truffles: weird i read that happiness thing carl n i gotta buncha sadpanda's
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mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i meant re the abortion/gospel stuff
danielpbarron: I believe the entire Bible
truffles: oh my
truffles knows people like this irl
danielpbarron: i doubt it
truffles: that i do?
mircea_popescu: "But compare and contrast (by which I mean meditate upon) the alt coin with max keiser’s alt coin and you’ll perhaps… you’ll come to something."
mircea_popescu: how's keisercoin doing these days ?
danielpbarron: the only other individuals i've met that believe the entire Bible live in a different state
mike_c: danielpbarron: that is impossible as much of it is contradictory.
mircea_popescu: mike_c contradiction does not bar belief.
truffles: well i once was a religious person so uh yea i know of many
mircea_popescu: he didn;'t claim to understand it, after all.
danielpbarron: truffles: that doesn't mean he won't be destroyed forever by God in the lake of fire
danielpbarron: yeah, you don't need to understand the Bible, you just need to believe it
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron so which part do you believe best ?
mike_c: words. meaning. what do you "believe" about it.
danielpbarron: all of it
danielpbarron: there are no non-essentials; the whole Bible is essential
mircea_popescu: including the lilith story ?
danielpbarron: that is not part of the Bible
mircea_popescu: why not ?
mircea_popescu: how do you know this ?
truffles: God said so!
danielpbarron: the story of lilith contradicts the rest of the Bible
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mircea_popescu: lol that didn't take long.
truffles: lilith oh thats in True Blood
mircea_popescu: mike_c i hope you're taking notes :D
danielpbarron: so it would make God a liar
mircea_popescu: not if you believe it.
truffles: now that show is much more interesting heh
mike_c: you eviscerated him much quicker than i could have.
mircea_popescu: see because the butcher who never needs his knife sharpened does not cut the meat
mircea_popescu: but merely follows the spaces thatr were already there.
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danielpbarron: if you believe a lie, you are not saved
danielpbarron: regarding the Bible that is
lalusch: wtb neobee shares
lalusch: lol
mircea_popescu: paying auroracoins ?
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the20year2: Lillith essentially comes from traditional jewish oral history
mircea_popescu: the20year2 "the bible" is an arbitrary cut-out of jewish folk stories anyway, so.
benkay: musta not made the nicean cut
mike_c: "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked?" << well who do you think it was?
benkay: wunder whylzolzolzl
danielpbarron: we shouldn't speculate, mike_c
mircea_popescu: why are you buying bitcoin then ?
mike_c: no discussing the bible?
mircea_popescu: mike_c only in latin.
danielpbarron: we shouldn't speculate regarding the Bible
the20year2: From the traditional theological classes I've taken the 'who that was' was satan
mircea_popescu: actually if a rule was made that discussing the bible in any other language is heresy and lake-of-fire it'd be so much better.
danielpbarron: the Bible does not say that Satan told Adam he was naked
danielpbarron: to suggest otherwise would be to add to the Word
mircea_popescu: this is actually true.
danielpbarron: maybe Satan did say that, we don't know
mircea_popescu: the "who told you" question is indeed old.
mike_c: who else was talking at the time?
cmyers: danielpbarron: I wonder what your answer to the epicurian dilemma is?
benkay: (lilith)
danielpbarron: cmyers: i'm not familiar with it
mircea_popescu: benkay no, her mouth was full.
mircea_popescu: cmyers epicurean ffs.
mike_c: lilith and eve were in the garden at the same time? sucks for adam.
the20year2: Thus why i said traditional theological classes
danielpbarron: the Bible says that simply eating the fruit caused them to change
benkay: mike_c: don't knock it...
mike_c: danielpbarron: then why did God ask the question?
mircea_popescu: mike_c proper blowjob is one on the balls the other on the head.
cmyers: there is evil in the world. If god is willing to stop it, but unable, he is not omnipotent. If he is able, but not willing, he is not perfectly good. IF he is neither, why call him god? If he is both, then whence commeth evil?
danielpbarron: mike_c: it was retorical?
danielpbarron: I don't know
danielpbarron: more speculation
mircea_popescu: cmyers " If he is able, but not willing, he is not perfectly good. " << that's weak.
danielpbarron: God doesn't say why He asked
cmyers: mircea_popescu: only if you define god as "not perfectly good"
danielpbarron: cmyers: God causes evil (see Isaiah 45:7)
cmyers: which is goalpost shifting
mircea_popescu: it unites the epicurean with the cheeky children of today, all presuming they are a measuring stick for good.
the20year2: Dpeends on if you believe or understand the biblical roots of sin and mankind. If you understand those it answers the question cmyers
mircea_popescu: they aren't.
mircea_popescu: my lash, and not my slave's butt, is the measuring stick of good.
cmyers: so god exists because the bible explains it all, and the bible explains it all because god exists. awesome.
danielpbarron: so it is a misunderstanding to ask why God "allows evil" --- He CAUSES IT
cmyers: then god can suck my dick
benkay: how funny
cmyers: he's a shitty god
mircea_popescu: well she could...
the20year2: That's not where i"m going cmyers, I rather am saying the answer to your question is there
benkay: an atheist and a bible thumper show up in assets the same day
benkay: what are the odds.
mircea_popescu: cmyers problem is nobody asked you see ? :D
cmyers: fair enough.
danielpbarron: He's an all powerful God; if He didn't cause evil (and evil exists) then He is not all powerful
cmyers: time to go do work I guess =/
mircea_popescu: benkay i claim dibs on having produced the event.
cmyers: mircea_popescu: I agree, you get credit.
mircea_popescu: cmyers either that or you're not a perfectly good worker :D
cmyers: I never claimed to be =)
mircea_popescu: anyway. "evil" is definitely good. much like poverty, inequality and so forth
benkay: mircea_popescu: you suck.
mircea_popescu: pain and suffering is a sine qua non condition of human existence.
danielpbarron: evil is the opposite of good
mircea_popescu: benkay yeah but only clits.
benkay: mircea_popescu: i'd rather talk about lasers and encryption and rockets and titties
benkay: this nicean shit is BORING.
benkay: what is wrong with her hair?!
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benkay: i've seen burner chicks with better hair at day 12 on the playa
mircea_popescu: i guess that's what emo foxy chicks do ?
the20year2: So has neobee collapsed with brewster stepping down, or are they still out there?
jborkl: she needs to wash her nasty feet
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jborkl: otherwise looking good
benkay: jborkl: lol
mircea_popescu: jborkl i think that's a fetish.
jborkl: well now that is gross, you know what is on the floor?
mircea_popescu: the20year2 there was some article earlier, apparently they're bein investigated for fraud by cyprus police now.
truffles: <danielpbarron> He's an all powerful God; if He didn't cause evil (and evil exists) then He is not all powerful >>>> my understanding was God made His creations and left them to freewill which amounted to this widespread evil
the20year2: i saw that mircea_popescu. I was curious if anyone had actually stopped by their offices in Cyprus?
truffles: acutally eating that apple was the beginning most likely
the20year2: truffles: that's the gist of the story
truffles: for a believer danielpbarron has a weird view of things
mircea_popescu: apparently their office is abandoned, employees unpaid went home.
the20year2: oh wow
the20year2: truffles: not exactly, his viewpoint is pretty common in US southern Baptists
danielpbarron: truffles: that is not true; the concept of "free will" has no Biblical foundation
truffles: in some english translation its there
the20year2: it certrainly does if you're not a calvinist
danielpbarron: show me, truffles
truffles: pfff
truffles: not at this moment
jborkl: .b
danielpbarron: the Bible mentions "free will offerings" which are animal sacrifices that do not coresond to a sin having been committed
mircea_popescu: i guess kansas counts as southern for this purpose.
danielpbarron: that doesn't mean man choose to make the offering, God caused the choice
benkay: .bait
benkay: EXCELLENT BAIT, OZBOT
benkay: MUCH APPROVE
mike_c: oh geez. biblical determinism. then why did god ask who told they were nekked??
benkay: such bait
danielpbarron: He doesn't say
jborkl: .bait jesus
the20year2: If choice doesn't exist, then why does Christ say "Come to me all who are weary"
mike_c: he's just asking random questions for no reason because he already knew and he made eve do it anyway?
truffles: mike_c simple answer He knoweth all
mike_c: DON'T YOU SEE THIS MAKES NO SENSE.
danielpbarron: the20year2: He doesn't say
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danielpbarron: mike_c: you've never asked a retorical question?
the20year2: In Matthew 11:28 he doesn't?
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> he's just asking random questions for no reason because he already knew and he made eve do it anyway? << i actually do this.
jborkl: mircea, is -pr still banished from the forum?
mircea_popescu: much to [noob] slavegirl frustration.
truffles: lol banished
danielpbarron: the20year2: no, He doesn't say why He asked that question
mircea_popescu: jborkl i have no idea but i'd imagine so ?
mike_c: 1) He made eve eat the apple. 2) He knew who told eve she was nekked. 3) He had a conversation about it with her anyway, already knowing the answers, the outcome of the conversation, and everything that would happen before and after.
benkay: mike_c: stahpo
benkay: mike_c: stahp stahp stahp stahp
danielpbarron: mike_c: we don't know that someone told Eve she was naked
truffles: whatd did she do that she didnt already do that caused banishment??
mike_c: sorry sorry.
mike_c: i'm out.
benkay: you're fired
the20year2: He told them to come to him who are weary, burdened, ect so they could believe in Him, so they could be changed. If it wasn't a choice ,Christ would have never said ' come to me', he would have just done it to those whom he was speaking to.
benkay: the20year2!
benkay: you too!
benkay: cut it out!
the20year2: I've made my point, i'm done
benkay: thank you.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: yes, humans (not omnipotent, not omniscient) do things like this.
danielpbarron: the20year2: you are adding to the word; you don't know what God should or shouldn't have done
the20year2: Just quoting it from the book
danielpbarron: you are saying what Christ should have done; who are you to reply against God?
mircea_popescu: mike_c you're familiar with frame of reference. it can readily be argued that in that context, i am actually both.
mike_c: readily? hardly. powerful and knowledgable is not omnipotent and omniscient.
mircea_popescu: but in the context of a slavegirl and her universe, the master is both.
truffles: she can stab u at any time
mircea_popescu: that flows from the role definition, not much argument even.
mircea_popescu: truffles not more than you can fly at any time.
the20year2: I posted on BTCtalk, but i'm thinking in light of what's going on with N&B and danny that we (RS) elect a special POA in case I disappear
mircea_popescu: the20year2 just make sure it doesn't turn into a novel way to "sorry lost all the coins".
mike_c: so god is just fucking with us so he can play out a power trip. hm.
the20year2: I've already contacted a liquidation specialist, and our corp atty to see what needs to be done, granted in real estate I've done it before plenty of times. That way if i was to get run over by a bus, die from too much blow, ect there'd be an automatic liquidation process that would go through
mircea_popescu: mike_c you ascribe tho. slavery is not necessarily or even much about power tripping.
danielpbarron: the Biblical concept of slavery is more of a business deal
truffles: mike_c i dont think God needs to do that, thats what ppl like mp are for
mike_c: well, then you are saying the slave is doing something useful. what are we doing that is useful for god?
mircea_popescu: i am not saying that.
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the20year2: A local landlord here hired a liquidation company for a few of her properties, in the end she got way more than I would have ever predicted
mike_c: ok socrates, help me out :)
mike_c: what are you saying.
mircea_popescu: i am saying that what you propose about god is within my own personal experience, and in the experience of people i know. this has factually happened.
mircea_popescu: yet you presented it as an exercise in absurdity.
mircea_popescu: well... it can't be that.
truffles: u dont know her thoughts at all times for 1
tg2: ITT god trolls #bitocin-assets
mircea_popescu: tg2 yeah you're getting a definite pay cut.
mike_c: but you do those things for a reason. so unless god had a reason, the parallel is not there. i can not imagine what you are saying god's reason is.
the20year2: For those of you that live in europe, what does home insurance run?
SatoshiJack: I believe the Son of God rocks for sure -- No one could kick Hercules's ass !
mircea_popescu: mike_c you familiar with the cause/purpose distinction ?
mike_c: i am aware there is a distinction.
tg2: too lazy to scroll up, what are we arguing about
mircea_popescu: ok. ascribing a purpose to my actions is what frustrates the slavegirls, too.
the20year2: and tank girls?
mircea_popescu: it's not accessible from their frame.
mike_c: hm.
tg2: and then, unto his followers, he said, "scroll, and all shall become clear".
truffles: Someone made the discussion about themself, why he is like God to his slave because he locks her up etc..
tg2: her = ?
tg2: somebody has a slavegirl?
mircea_popescu: hismom. hence butthurt.
truffles: supposedly
tg2: shit I better step my game up
tg2: hismom LOL
the20year2: what silly language is that in?
the20year2: all the words look funny
mircea_popescu: it's Funnyanian.
tg2: your romanian
tg2: is too heavily written
tg2: ;)
rithm: you are
truffles: its prob some easy language dont worry
rithm: or the romanian belongs to someone
mike_c: ok. so you are saying that chapter in genesis makes sense if we are god's slaves. i can accept that.
mircea_popescu: mike_c im not saying it makes sense, i'm merely saying thaty your proposed explanation of why it wouldn't make sense is a description of what you didn't understand of it and nothing more.
truffles: i cant
rithm: r u guys talking about christianity
rithm: why the fuck.
mircea_popescu: whether it does or does not make sense, as far as your raa goes it might as well.
mircea_popescu: rithm because i am evil and they are easily tempted.
tg2: #rekt
mircea_popescu: same reason everything else happens in here.
truffles: well i think i brought up the religion thing
tg2: mircea, do you even god?
rithm: oic this is your fanciful game, not theirs
danielpbarron: the master cannot neccessarily cause the slave to make choices; God can
truffles: and some ppl ran with it
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron tell that to the slave.
mike_c: no, you are not saying it makes sense. but you are saying that it would make sense if we were god's slaves. there may be other explanations, but that is one possibility that makes sense. i'm pretty sure you said that.
tg2: god gave man free will
mircea_popescu: mike_c sure.
danielpbarron: a master can make a slave WISH he made a certain choice; God can literally cause the choice to be made
mircea_popescu: like that it works.
tg2: so that he could judge him
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron ever been a slave ?
tg2: obv
truffles: danielpbarron id agree with that
danielpbarron: i am currently
mircea_popescu: to whom ?
the20year2: daniel lives in western africa
rithm: does god exist everywhere or not. I mean this whole omnipresence thing just makes me think I'm god.....
danielpbarron: to Jesus and to the United States of America Corporation
tg2: where was it assumed that god can cause the choice to be made?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron well so there you go, your master can make you make a choice. qed.
danielpbarron: yes, Jesus can
mircea_popescu: luke's like gonna read this log and fall over.
tg2: lol
danielpbarron: but that is not inherent in His role as master
the20year2: mircea_popescu: you've paid attention to this whole HFT thing, right?
mircea_popescu: the20year2 sort-of.
the20year2: You were talking about it yesterday
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr is on his way to hell; catholicism is a false religion
tg2: somebody ask assbot what he thinks on the matter
danielpbarron: I hope he repents of course; it's not too late
gribble: heads
the20year2: I'm curious, how many catholics do you personally know and talk to daniel?
danielpbarron: i know at least one "irl" but probably more
tg2: none, they are all hethens
tg2: amirite
the20year2: how often do you talk to them about catholicism?
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tg2: I married a catholic and didn't get married in a church, does that make me OK?
mircea_popescu: tg2 did you gangbang afterwards ?
danielpbarron: often enough to know that most catholics don't even believe their own false dogma, let alone the real Gospel
jborkl: what God is the correct one, I need to make sure to pick correctly- kinda important.
tg2: mircea_popescu, with holy water as lube
the20year2: What's your sample size daniel?
danielpbarron: jborkl: the Jesus Christ of the Bible (see: http://atruechurch.info/ )
mircea_popescu: holy shit this is a brilliant idea
tg2: if it's catholic holy waters, does that make it ok?
mircea_popescu: sell holy lube!
jborkl: What happens to everyone that picked the wrong one?
mircea_popescu: god damn it i got pankkake -rolled into reading my own consecration thread.
the20year2: who's site is that daniel?
truffles: fail religious ppl dont ejac
danielpbarron: the20year2: I'm not claiming any scientific rigor here
tg2: may thy fornication be lubricous
danielpbarron: the20year2: Darwin Fish
cryptolemming: Hi, I'm new here, would just like to introduce we will be announcing a pre-launch of our dice-inspired games casino in the coming weeks. Will be around here a bit in the meantime and likely moreso after launch.
pankkake: it's more of a MPOE-PR consecration
the20year2: you're just making a statement of 1.2 billion people based on a few you know
tg2: and unto thee, god said "adulterers and fornicators rejoice, as my gift to thee I bestow the holiest of librification"
the20year2: "Everyone is wrong but us!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, in a doomed effort to improve the porn-to-text ratio of this god forsaken channel, i present you
mircea_popescu: cryptolemming nice name. welcome.
tg2: and sodomites
danielpbarron: the20year2: none of the catholics i've met "irl" actually believe the catholic dogma; and NO CATHOLIC EVER has believed the entire Bible
tg2: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is not identified.
cryptolemming: thank you glad to be here, figure it's about time I learned how to navigate IRC chat etc
tg2: ;;gpg eauth tg2
gribble: Request successful for user tg2, hostmask tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/31FAA963C3333333
mircea_popescu: cryptolemming so what's your name and who are "we" ?
jborkl: you can tell she has not been there long, she has not shit in the corner yet
mircea_popescu: jborkl whoa sometimes you scare me.
the20year2: danielpbarron: That's interesting because i know at least one who does
jborkl: lol
tg2: ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e55810a88948699504563318b2939d86ba323f6e556adead185d3cb6
danielpbarron: the20year2: does what? believe the false catholic dogma?
gribble: You are now authenticated for user tg2 with key 31FAA963C3333333
the20year2: but my sample size is of about 15 catholics
truffles: whoa thats a lot dude
cryptolemming: Ali Ayoub, 'we' includes 2 deveopers, one backend - yellowdog from satoshirat, and frontend - qwyz
the20year2: When you say 'whole bible' do you mean exactly as you interpet it?
cryptolemming: *developers
mircea_popescu: cryptolemming ah i recall you. so get in the wot ?
danielpbarron: the20year2: yes, the Bible says believers will be of "one mind"
cryptolemming: I believe so, authoriz etc although no history etc
the20year2: But if it's literal that means all christians share the exact same physical brain, if you believe in strict literal interpetation
truffles: danielpbarron now ure of one mind with the church of bitcoin!!
mircea_popescu: and they don;t ?
danielpbarron: the20year2: it doesn't say "one brain"
nubbins`: nothing lulzier than people talking about the bible as it's translated into English
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i did mention latrin dun haet.
nubbins`: you're exempt!
danielpbarron: i will dump bitcoin in a second if circumstances change
the20year2: what circumstances?
danielpbarron: whatever
truffles: ye of little faith
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1770700/plain/)
the20year2: If the leader of your church says to?
mircea_popescu: damn truffles.
danielpbarron: my point is; bitcoin is not eternal, not worth going to hell over
truffles: owned
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00096072 = 10.2317 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: whenever someone claims "the bible says x" and they don't speak greek or hebrew, it's actually okay to hit them in the face
asciilifeform: hellcoin
the20year2: so why are you here?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mined by proof of smoke ?
nubbins`: hahah
the20year2: hebrew and greek certainly bring a whole new aspect to reading the bible
nubbins`: burning-bushchain
asciilifeform: proof-of-torment
nubbins`: the20year2: it could be successfully argued that english is what brings a new aspect to it.
danielpbarron: the20year2: i like Bitcoin at the moment
the20year2: mircea_popescu: reason i asked about HFT was this is on the 1st page of reddit - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-03/bats-admits-ceo-lied-about-hft-cnbc
mircea_popescu: nubbins` actually, greek, aramaic and latin. hebrew is more like... you know, the sort of boxed edition they release 10 years after the movie.
nubbins`: heeh
nubbins`: fair
mircea_popescu: the20year2 what specifically about it ?
ozbot: [ANN] [GOD] Jesuscoin Scrypt New Altcoin
nubbins`: i'm actually working on a project right now, silkscreening a copy of the gospel according to mark in scriptio continua
mircea_popescu: that boxed edition where you discover the supersexy voice actress is a 4 foot 6 troll.
nubbins`: let me find a page
mircea_popescu: mike_c i wonder if they have jesuscoin jesusi
the20year2: just that they stated he lied
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mike_c: lol. maybe they can get ver to convert
nubbins`: ^ source material
cryptolemming: so a rather eclectic collection of conversation points here I take it, look forward to getting to know some of you better in time. for now, I'll resist the temptation to bring up neo & bee, if not primarily bc I can only assume it's been discussed to ends.
nubbins`: the guy who's financing this project is scribing the whole fucking thing by hand
mircea_popescu: cryptolemming kinda. you know how to pull up the logs ?
cryptolemming: I do not, will be making friends with the help menu in the coming week.
mircea_popescu: eh fu assbot.
cryptolemming: okay great thanks
cryptolemming: ;;topic
gribble: Error: "neo" is not a valid command.
cryptolemming: trial and error ftw
mircea_popescu: !t h neobee
assbot: Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
mircea_popescu: seriously ?!
mircea_popescu: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00750000 / 0.0075 / 0.00750000 (163 shares, 1.22250000 BTC), 7D: 0.00610000 / 0.00742383 / 0.00750000 (18519 shares, 137.48186661 BTC), 30D: 0.00510111 / 0.00623288 / 0.00900001 (53660 shares, 334.45651440 BTC)
cryptolemming: will continue to lurk and take my newb spam to private, cheers
mike_c: !t h neobeeq
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: / 0 / (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00185115 / 0.00207117 / 0.00242900 (6618 shares, 13.70700255 BTC), 30D: 0.00155000 / 0.00330782 / 0.00450000 (425696 shares, 1408.12547591 BTC)
mircea_popescu: what sorceryq is thisq ?!
mike_c: they changed the symbol
wywialm_: mircea_popescu, bible and latin? you sure?
mircea_popescu: wywialm_ thomas.
wywialm_: which thomas? still not getting it
mircea_popescu: Thomas Aquinas, Doctor Angelicus, Doctor Communis, Doctor Universalis.
numerisTrade: well, ok, he commented the latin translation, but still translation and not the original - i thought nubbins` referred to original languages
mircea_popescu: latin is as much an orginal language of the bible as greek is.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00096053 = 16.329 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: "translation" has to be taken with a grain of salt in this context. it's not what we're used with.
wywialm_: please expain
wywialm_: explain*
truffles: this has lasted longer than the other boring topic wierdness!
mircea_popescu: well, a set of texts which was originally written in mostly aramaic has been transalted. for the eastern church, centered around byzantium and the eastern dioceses, in greek.
mircea_popescu: for the western church, centered around rome and the western (mostly, gaulish) dioceses in latin.
mircea_popescu: these are very much equally so "originals" even if the two bibles are only considered the same item for the sake of laziness.
mircea_popescu: otherwise the story of the irreducible differences would easily fill the libraries. which it had been filling, 500 to 1500 ad.
mircea_popescu: fortunately people found better inanity to bother with
mircea_popescu: such as ipads and what was jane doe wearing under her skirt.
kakobrekla: >Popescu's best buddy the Frenchman pankkake is also in this deep. He has taken money from MP to carryout attacks on all things not MPEx. Pankkake knows enough to put MP behind bars for blackmail, extortion, commercial attacks. If the FBI put pressure on pankkake he will talk. The French bow to pressure very easily. Always have.
truffles: sick
mircea_popescu: pankkake awww, sammy, you'd sing ?! under pressure ?!
pankkake: I've dealt with a lot of stupid on the interebs but this is… I don't even want to reply to the thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.06299999 = 0.882 BTC [+] {2}
truffles: the insult about being french?
pankkake: I got out trolled
mircea_popescu: pankkake you lose.
mircea_popescu: ;;google translate "nu te pune cu prostu' ca are mintea odihnita"
gribble: (google translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.
mircea_popescu: ;;google translate romanian english "nu te pune cu prostu' ca are mintea odihnita"
gribble: Error: Google says: Response Status 403: Please use Translate v2. See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html.
pankkake: the best is that the two found each other in their desperation - they both lost a lot in scams, and made a common merged enemy
truffles: some1 found u as easy bait lol
mircea_popescu: i just hope nobody takes offense at the bff suggestion. i love lots of you just as much!
truffles: Napoleon wasnt weak why dont they mention him?
pankkake: apparently I also know a lot of stuff
mircea_popescu: anyway, i wonder what the root of this imaginary crime of "commercial attacks" is supposed to be. a mistranslation or something ?
pankkake: but stuartuk is supposed to be from the uk
pankkake: they really like the competition, antitrust, whatever, laws, it seems
mircea_popescu: how is neobee supposed to be a competitor for anyone again ?
mircea_popescu: weren't they very limited geographically ?
truffles: neobee envy?
mircea_popescu: maybe that's most of what's reported in the press they read, so that's what they think about.
mircea_popescu: tbh it'd be kinda flattering for mpex to get sued by some antitrust regulator.
pankkake: indeed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 999 @ 0.00039819 = 0.3978 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: anyway, why so much racism ?
mircea_popescu: im sure the british would sing under pressure as much as teh french.
truffles: i think the word u seek is prejudice
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 612 @ 0.00086381 = 0.5287 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 388 @ 0.00084103 = 0.3263 BTC [-] {3}
wywialm_: french is different race than british
truffles: u mean country?
danielpbarron: there is one human race; genetic differences are minor
HeySteve: one human species, many races
ThickAsThieves: dafuck, Havelock is gonna resume neo trading?
wywialm_: i mean irony, mircea_popescu means race if the french bow stuff is racism :)
pankkake: The Fund will now be designated as NEOBEEQ to reflect the uncertainty of the future of LMB Holdings
kakobrekla: q as questionable?
ThickAsThieves: i dont even...
mircea_popescu: why not D ?
truffles: heh apparently "race" might have french origins hmm
pankkake: just rename it to "SOMETHING"
pankkake: or "WHATEVER"
ThickAsThieves: or "GIVEUSTRADEFEES"
pankkake: that migth explain the decision :(
ThickAsThieves: do they even lawyer?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.60005 = 1.2001 BTC [-] {2}
danielpbarron: HeySteve: that's called racism
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 33 @ 0.0075 = 0.2475 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: both anglosaxons and french claled themselves a "race" in the 18th-19th century
mircea_popescu: so i can hide behind that.
truffles: caucasian,mongoloid,negroid,australoid
mircea_popescu: so wait, you can now trade the suspended neobee symbol by trading neobeeq ?
thestringpuller: can havelock just implode already so i can win my bet...
mike_c: not for two hours. anticipation!
pankkake: cryptostocks is still running so…
pankkake: running scams doesn't seem to change much
mircea_popescu: is nefario on the advisory board of havelock or is stupidity just this copy/pasta by nature ?
pankkake: perhaps cryptostocks isn't as high profile
mircea_popescu: this is EXACTLY the goat suspension of 2012, by the book.
mircea_popescu: just as laughable, actually, benkay you may wanna do a side by side comparison.
mike_c: and the goat suspension of 2014. cog is trading again too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 601 @ 0.0075 = 4.5075 BTC [+]
benkay: goat suspension?
benkay: i didn't know he hung from hooks.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 167 @ 0.06007661 = 10.0328 BTC [-] {8}
mircea_popescu: cog is nominally not goat's.
truffles: gribble doesnt like assets
truffles: and other places nm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 48.55606712 BTC to 80`674 shares, 60188 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.038 = 0.114 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;google whet emotions
kanzure: is there any rule 34 fan art of mozilla monster killing homos'
nubbins`: <mircea_popescu> pankkake awww, sammy, you'd sing ?! under pressure ?!
nubbins`: but would it sound as good as freddie? pictures of your teeth plz
thestringpuller: !last m s.mpoe
assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00096053 BTC [-]
pankkake: replace pressure by alcohol and I will sing
truffles: happy drunk ftw
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.06085714 = 0.426 BTC [-] {3}
truffles: does a pankkake drink expensive alcohol?
ozbot: QUEEN - Under Pressure (Live At Wembley Stadium 1986) - YouTube
pankkake: wikipedia deleted an article I wrote years ago, which passed the deletion test once… but that time it was quick and sneaky
pankkake: also deleted the MP ones
pankkake: delete all the things!
asciilifeform: and i had the honour of being publicly beheaded as a spammer there.
pankkake: truffles: I like belgian beer, not that expensive
truffles: meh beer sucks
truffles: what else
pankkake: le rouge qui tache
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0591275 = 0.473 BTC [-] {3}
truffles: well that guy on the bottle..
truffles: nm alcohol what about cheese
pankkake: oh there's one actually called that. it's an expression
pankkake: I don't especially like cheese. I'm nota true French
truffles: i can see that
truffles: what does the expression mean then
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05805 = 0.1161 BTC [-] {2}
truffles: google says "red that stains"
pankkake: basic red wine
truffles: whatever is presented eh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0615 = 0.123 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00096021 = 16.5636 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1857 @ 0.00007931 = 0.1473 BTC [-] {4}
pankkake: I have some preferences but hard to describe them. general preference to bitterness and high vicosity
pankkake: what about you?
pankkake: where is Vexual by the way?
truffles: sweet
pankkake: ;;seen Vexual
gribble: Vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours, and 9 seconds ago: <Vexual> lasers in the eye is never good tat
truffles: or fruity
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.602 BTC [+]
truffles: id like to go to macau!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0574998 = 0.115 BTC [-]
truffles: gambaler's paradise!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0574998 = 0.1725 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00096014 = 19.8749 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 34 @ 0.01899891 = 0.646 BTC [+] {2}
pLambert: got a mail from Havelock, re NEOBEE "Trading will resume today at 5:00 PM EST"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00096304 = 26.291 BTC [+] {5}
pankkake: but will they clear the order book?
pLambert: I think they already did clear out the order books, all my old orders are gone
ThickAsThieves: pankkake, i assume that's partly why they changed the tickert
mgio: what do you predict the price will go to, say, in an hour?
pLambert: now it is NEOBEEQ, the q is for questionable
mgio: should be NEOBEE.Q
ThickAsThieves: ridiculousness
pLambert: I predict it will go down an order of magnitude
ThickAsThieves: make a bitbet, quick!
pankkake: hm probably, even bots would fail on it
pLambert: does bitbet let you make bets that quick?
mgio: like 0.00019?
mgio: its not even worth me selling anymore, sigh
dexX7: fyi: ukyo's claim portal is open again.. i was able to get my 6 %
benkay`: neo be queer
pLambert: last was something like .0019, so yeah, something like that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.06065 = 0.1213 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: i dunno, liquidity will be very thin, i wouldnt be surprised to see much lower
pLambert: I bet it will be pretty wildly volatile
Mats_cd03: huhuhu
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.0562674 = 1.9131 BTC [-] {8}
pLambert: or else it will just drop like a rock and stick at .000000001
pLambert: hmm, I think that is one extra 0, but you get the idea
mgio: nah, i would buy it at that price lol
pankkake: or havelol will not be able to handle the load
ThickAsThieves: havelol, lol
pLambert: anybody want to bet on how soon after 5:00 Havelock goes ofline from the high load?
ThickAsThieves: good point though
mgio: if it dropped to 0.00005 or below, i'd it all up
ThickAsThieves: the site has gotten very boggy
pankkake: when cog started again it was quite slow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 42 @ 0.01891708 = 0.7945 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: huge volume according to surfer
mike_c: kakobrekla props. bitbet works amazingly well with javascript turned off.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mike_c: pls stop setting the bar so high.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0555 = 0.2775 BTC [-] {3}
Namworld: [11:53] <nubbins`> literally, he will cripple himself before the first 10k is up
Namworld: common, that's a gross exaggeration.
Namworld: 10k isn't a lot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.038 = 0.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.05327278 = 1.172 BTC [-] {3}
benkay`: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05999999 = 0.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05440005 = 0.544 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05275 = 0.211 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 115 blocks | Estimated Change: 21.5596% in 0d 14h 58m 37s
Namworld: Okay, admitedly, 80k in a short timespan would be impossible for an average, untrained person.
Namworld: But the average human can certainly sustain more than 10k before running out of energy.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.052 = 0.156 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 76 @ 0.05161841 = 3.923 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00096536 = 8.3021 BTC [+]
nubbins`: Namworld, i'm not talking about running out of energy
nubbins`: i'm talking about injuring himself :D
Namworld: Injuring himself how?
nubbins`: go pick someone out of a crowd and tell them to run 10k, then ask them how their legs and feet feel afterward
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0609 = 0.2436 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.051 = 1.071 BTC [-] {2}
Namworld: Tired? Not injured?
nubbins`: well why don't you just take ALL the wind outta my sails
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 142 @ 0.05 = 7.1 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: either way, we can both agree that doing a double marathon cold is an incredibly stupid idea
Namworld: I give him 20-40k in with slowing down/breaks by the time it ends.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.048 = 0.144 BTC [-]
nubbins`: that's generous!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.04905714 = 1.0302 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00096609 = 23.1862 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: how long? 12, 13 hours?
Namworld: idk, I could randomly go and walk 8-10k at a fast pace when I was a kid. About 15 min per kilometer. Except that time at the end of the school year. Year was officially over but everyone was hanging around waiting for buses. I packed all my locker in my bag and just left on foot. Walked 10 kilometers on foot in like 30C temp on a sunny afternoon and stopped at the library about 1k before
Namworld: home to drink and read and cool of with the AC..
Namworld: Now that time my legs felt dead and I was walking at a crawl by the end.
Namworld: But I had my bag stretched from carrying all my books at once.
Namworld: That guy says he goes to the gym unregularly and he's in uni it seems? I'm really not sporty on the other end.
Namworld: He's young and probably taller and in better shape than me in mid highschool.
thestringpuller: damn Namworld that is gangsta
Namworld: 20-40k isn't generous.
Namworld: I feel it's fair
thestringpuller: how much did the stuff weigh that was in your locker?
thestringpuller: just books and stuff?
Namworld: Humans are literally built for endurance.
Namworld: Eh, not sure. A few large manuals, binders of notes, etc. It wasn't a full locker, I think I had emptied some of it another day. The whole wouldn't have fitted in the bag.
Namworld: But you know, a schoolbag fitted with so much you have to hammer the last books in and it looks like a stretched block afterward.
nubbins`: he can't walk 40k
nubbins`: he'd be out there for like 10 hours
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00096639 = 9.5673 BTC [+]
Namworld: I didn't say he'd walk them. Although he'd probably wouldn't be able to run very fast either.
Namworld: I mean by the time the whole event is over he'd be maybe 25-50% of the way through?
nubbins`: my guess is no more than 25%
nubbins`: which is still a half marathon
nubbins`: my sides @ neobeeq
mike_c: 30 minutes to the opening bell
Namworld: If I could walk 10km with a large charge on my back in ~3hours I'm sure someone in uni can sprint 20-40k during the event. How long does it even last?
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> kakobrekla props. bitbet works amazingly well with javascript turned off. << javascript can be turned on ?~
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05662335 = 0.1699 BTC [+]
Namworld: At a bare minimum, 20k. 40k is really an upper bound depending on how much his "occasional" means for going to the gym.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: aw, i know you use JS. you've been on my site :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05902474 = 0.2951 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: mike_c sooo ?
mike_c: i didn't think you could post a comment without JS on mine, but looks like you can. nevermind, your reputation is secure.
nubbins`: "var should be enough for anybody"
mircea_popescu: your local antitrust authority has been notified about your commercial attack practices.
mircea_popescu: expect to be extradited to romania.
ozbot: Is '16 And Pregnant' An Effective Form Of Birth Control? : NPR
ozbot: Hey Bigbitz - this is for you.
nubbins`: "You can go fuck yourself for the 2 BTC gift you gave me"
mircea_popescu: grahvity|desktop check the logs eh ?
grahvity|desktop: didn't know whether I was being helpful or not
mircea_popescu: that's why you check the logs :)
jurov: making a zombie from it...quite original solution
mircea_popescu: mp petitions bingo to switch to .lk links
nubbins`: grahvity|desktop: your mobile doesn't have a web browser? :0
moiety: mew all :) just catching up
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: check the logs eh?
grahvity|desktop: using an app
mircea_popescu: nubbins` :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0614 = 0.1228 BTC [+]
grahvity|desktop: cheers, guys
nubbins`: BOTH OF YA
BingoBoingo: Petition acknowledged
mircea_popescu: "Then we came across a quote by [CEO] Sarah Brown at the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy and she speculated that this show was having an effect."
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do they reason to come to the conclusion preventing teen pregnancy is a worthwhile thing to do
nubbins`: "then we watched the show and it was many say so she is right"
moiety: BingoBoingo: ty!! i have new desktopmanul nao :D
nubbins`: *many sad
BingoBoingo: moiety: Ur welcome
jurov: inb4 manulcoin
moiety: lol micrea, that was a pekinese... much uglier than my manuls
moiety: mircea_popescu*
nubbins`: it's actually spelled marsellus
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.60849999 = 1.217 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: marsellus goldstein whateveritwas
pankkake: what about miscrea
moiety: BingoBoingo: i think i have found a good domain
moiety: ach weesht im spelling everything backwards today :D
moiety: BingoBoingo: felin.ae (i can add pampas cats this way)
nubbins`: ;;google .ae tld
gribble: .ae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ae>; IANA — .ae Domain Delegation Data: <http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/ae.html>; ae Domains - International Domain Registration: <http://www.101domain.com/ae.htm>
moiety: manul speak would just be "fuck you"
nubbins`: ah, UAE
moiety: yarp
pankkake: I want .æ!
moiety: some twat has all the manul.pallas cat domains and hasnt done anything with them for years
nubbins`: pankkake XD
moiety: pankkake: they are really cheap
nubbins`: where the fuck do all the rulers keep disappearing to around here?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00096639 = 30.7312 BTC [+]
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: no, Catholicism is the only true religion
nubbins`: ah, my sides.
nubbins`: THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION
nubbins`: "using a 5lb sledge is the only true way to smash your dick"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05400011 = 0.27 BTC [-]
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: this page is of the devil, full of lies
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0540001 = 0.108 BTC [-]
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: shall I go through it lie by lie?
danielpbarron: yes, please
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05999986 = 0.24 BTC [+]
Luke-Jr: On the inside dust jacket of Pope John Paul's book, Crossing The Threshold Of Hope (copyright 1994, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York), the Pope's message is, "Be not afraid!" <-- there was never any "Pope John Paul" in the Catholic Church
Luke-Jr: the Catholic is nonetheless following a "stranger" (i.e. Catholicism) and not Christ <-- Catholicism is Christ
Luke-Jr: Roman Catholicism is a false religion with deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons (1 Timothy 4:1-3), a false gospel, a false Jesus, idolatry, and damning lies. <-- false
thestringpuller: oh it's Luke-Jr have you been on holiday? :P
mike_c: paging cmyers for a three way deathmatch
Luke-Jr: In this text that describes those who have departed from the faith and given heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, there are only two teachings given ("forbidding to marry" and "to abstain from foods") by which to identify the ones to whom this text applies. The Roman Catholic Church practices both identifying marks. <-- these two evils are named because they were already being taught by heretical sects; but they do not mean
Luke-Jr: what this webpage wants you to beleive they mean
Luke-Jr: the heretical sects Timothy was writing about, forbade marriage *completely*, etc
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: "Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith" <-- written in future tense as in something that hadn't happened yet
Luke-Jr: In the official Catechism of the Catholic Church (Libreria Editrice Vaticana, copyright 1994, Ignatius Press, San Francisco, CA) on page 395 under #1580, speaking in the context of "priests" it states: <-- 1) there is no such approved catechism; 2) note the *context of priests*
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: He speaks of the Gnostics, the Marcionites, the Eneratites, the Manicheans, and other ancient heretics, who absolutely condemned marriage, and the use of all kind of meat; because they pretended that all flesh was from an evil principle. Whereas the church of God, so far from condemning marriage, holds it a holy sacrament; and forbids it to none but such as by vow have chosen the better part: and prohibits not the use of any
Luke-Jr: meats whatsoever in proper times and seasons; though she does not judge all kind of diet proper for days of fasting and penance.
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: furthermore, the Church's laws about abstinence from meat on certain days, goes back to the Apostles; they were already in place and Timothy practiced them himself
Luke-Jr: obviously he was not condemning the Church he was a bishop of
danielpbarron: penance 1. voluntary self-punishment inflicted as an outward expression of repentance for having done wrong. 2. a Christian sacrament in which a member of the Church confesses sins to a priest and is given absolution.
Luke-Jr: They deem Muslims as having salvation <-- this is not true
mike_c: plus Jesus himself explicitly founded the catholic church with Peter as pope, so there's that.
Duffer1: lmao
danielpbarron: absolution: 1. formal release from guilt, obligation, or punishment.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00579997 = 0.3248 BTC [+] {3}
Luke-Jr: Scripture nowhere teaches any such sacraments necessary for salvation. <-- Scripture does not teach; Christ appointed the Church to do that. Furthermore, Scripture *does* record Christ Himself mandating Baptism.
moiety: i thought gay people were forbidden to marry
mike_c: i'm waiting for one of you to forget to capitalize a name or pronoun here and go straight to hell.
Luke-Jr: moiety: gay people are condemned to Hell unless they repent
Duffer1: o.0
Duffer1: ecc 9:5
mike_c: luke must use firefox
moiety: ergo, also being forbidden from marriage, right?
cazalla: neobee is live
locksmith: cazalla it's not, it still says trading is halted on havelock
Luke-Jr: As should be seen from the above, the wafer and the wine is the Catholic Jesus. And this Catholic Jesus (a piece of bread and some wine) is worshipped. This is idolatry. <-- worshipping God Himself is not idolatry.
locksmith: or I'm seeing a cached page
cazalla: locksmith: refresh
Luke-Jr: moiety: even heathen can contract a natural marriage
mike_c: first trades, 1 satoshi!
locksmith: oh shit you're right
pLambert: wow, lots going for 1 satoshi
Namworld: lol, 1 satoshi
nubbins`: he's got ya there, the wafer and wine is supposed to be jesus' flesh and blood in another form
locksmith: NEOBEEQ what the fuck's the Q
nubbins`: transubstantiation, as if you needed another reason to lel
nubbins`: locksmith: the Q is whether you'll get any of your money back
mircea_popescu: it's short for Q.Q
rithm: Q is for Quark
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1642 @ 0.00008745 = 0.1436 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 291 @ 0.00084015 = 0.2445 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: which is the int'l sign for butttears.
moiety isn't sure what she has pressed but now typing with a black box for a cursor
nubbins`: "insert"
Luke-Jr: Scripture nowhere says what the Catholics teach. Nowhere does the Word of God say anything about the bread (or wine) becoming anything. <-- nor is Scripture the authority; however, it DOES document Christ saying that we MUST eat His Flesh to be saved
nubbins`: moiety ^
mircea_popescu: !t h neobeeq
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 2.191E-5 / 0.00010000 (14697 shares, 0.32204988 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 2.191E-5 / 0.00010000 (14697 shares, 0.32204988 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.0031977 / 0.00450000 (440226 shares, 1407.70958942 BTC)
locksmith: who's even buying this shit
moiety: epic thanks nubbins`
mircea_popescu: locksmith your local antitrust authority has been notified about your commercial attack practices.
mircea_popescu: expect to be extradited to romania.
Luke-Jr: moiety: of course, marriage is still always to someone of the opposite sex. so it doesn't necessarily make sense that a gay person *would* marry.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3582 @ 0.00006394 = 0.229 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00579498 = 0.1738 BTC [-]
locksmith: lol what are you talking about mircea?
jurov: Oh yes, Loving God Father, in His infinite wisdom, created humanity and then condemned most of it to eternal suffering.
jurov: Makes perfect sense.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2585 @ 0.00009999 = 0.2585 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 159 @ 0.00084015 = 0.1336 BTC [-]
Luke-Jr: Catholicism is further entrenched in idolatry in the veneration of the saints. <-- the saints are not adored; there is no idolatry here either; furthermore, one cannot worship a saint without also worshipping God at the same time, since the saint's virtue all comes from God
Duffer1: i skimmed the logs but have been unable to determine what precipitated this asinine conversation
cazalla: locksmith: you can't talk down neobee you troll
Duffer1: why luke b trollin ?
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: can you please cite scripture to back your claims
locksmith: cazalla watch me :)
locksmith: I actually know the people at neo
cazalla: locksmith: better get a lawyer son
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1556 @ 0.00010704 = 0.1666 BTC [+] {16}
Luke-Jr: Prayer is a form of worship. <-- but not all worship is reserved for God. this is where English-age heretics try to abuse the language
locksmith: *poor people
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: which ones do you question?
locksmith: unpaid employees
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: all of them
Duffer1: saints not adored?! are you smoking crack, there's a thriving market for silver/gold trinkets of the various saints
cazalla: locksmith: lurk more, it was funny if you understand the context
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 13220 @ 0.00009981 = 1.3195 BTC [-] {13}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05893354 = 0.1768 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59340035 = 1.7802 BTC [-] {2}
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: keep in mind that the Catholic Church *produced* the Bible. so if you question the Church, there is no basis to accept its product either
stompysteve: so what does everything thing about neobee right now whats it worth
Duffer1: saying it's not idolatry does not negate the fact that it's idolatry
jurov: i can't adore my cock without also worshipping God at the same time by the same logic
Luke-Jr: Duffer1: it isn't.
Duffer1: you're an idiot
locksmith: cazalla thanks for the heads up
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: there are examples in the Bible of God causes evil men to further good works
Namworld: Why are people even buying Neobee that high?
danielpbarron: causing*
Luke-Jr: idolatry: the worship of a picture or object as a god
mircea_popescu: locksmith just mocking teh forum doods.
locksmith: Namworld someone's being funny buying 10000
Luke-Jr: the saints are not worshipped as gods
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3956 @ 0.0000999 = 0.3952 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7794 @ 0.00096507 = 7.5218 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00579499 = 0.1449 BTC [+]
mike_c: what a bloodbath..
locksmith: mircea_popescu I got that, just wasn't sure as to if you were referring to particular posts
Namworld: Like 1 satoshi, maybe. I'd buy the whole Neobee just for the lulz.
locksmith: couldn't read all that shit without getting a headache
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3056 @ 0.00012972 = 0.3964 BTC [+] {9}
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: can person who is not God forgive sins?
mircea_popescu: locksmith a that i have no idea.
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: not of themselves, no
stompysteve: and havelock down
mircea_popescu: til jurov adores his cock.
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: then what is the purpose of fasting as a penance?
mircea_popescu: lmao who had money on < 15 minutes ? was it mike_c ?
Namworld: Look, I bought out your whole "good business offer" for less than 1 BTC, fellow forum members.
mike_c: nah, wasn't me
locksmith: anyhooo people, for those thinking of buying, danny is with his trollface selling on the other side of the screen
mircea_popescu: !last neobee
assbot: You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
Namworld: That's probably more than it's worth, but eh
moiety: neo died before i even checked? lol
danielpbarron: you forgot the 'Q'
mircea_popescu: i wanted the old price.
Namworld: It proves a point?
JWU42: forgot all about this channel
mircea_popescu: JWU42 heretiq.
moiety: lolol @ assbot
JWU42 chuckles
rithm: ^5 JWU42
locksmith: JWU42 some never knew of this channel don't want to point to names -----> cryptocyprus
kakobrekla: !l h neobee
assbot: Last trade for NEOBEE on HAVELOCK was at 0.00187956 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: !l h neobeeq
assbot: Last trade for NEOBEEQ on HAVELOCK was at 0.00012972 BTC [+]
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: twofold: 1) to make amends to God; 2) to give up legitimate pleasure, as practice for subjecting our bodies to our will so that when we are tempted to do evil, we can resist it better
mircea_popescu: awww, all this fud.
JWU42: I ahve been away from this for so long I missed the whole weex graet.load neo.bee crap
mircea_popescu: NewBie is a great copropany run by a competent cacao
JWU42: loan*
mircea_popescu: or however you spell these things
mircea_popescu: JWU42 that's about 10mb worth of logs to keep you entertained
mgio: damn the market cap on havelock is just 265 btc, ima buy up the whole company
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: amends 1. reparation or compensation.
jborkl: wasnt neobee .06 or something last week?
JWU42: I am sure there is more than enough to keep me busy
mike_c: ;;calc (187956 - 12972) / 187956
gribble: 0.930983847283
locksmith: some fud be good fud, i.e., I got fud that buying this shit gonna have a bad time
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: a believer owes fasting to God? will they be damned if they don't?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05500001 = 0.11 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: this danielpbarron Luke-Jr thing looks like twu wuv.
JWU42 barfs
stompysteve: neobee was .006 a month ago or so
locksmith: I got an address with 0.0010btc, gonna buy me some stock
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: by sinning, we offend God and ought to make amends; whether one is damned is based solely on his being on good terms with God (ie, not in a state of mortal sin)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3058 @ 0.000101 = 0.3089 BTC [-] {11}
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: the only "amends" is repenting
JWU42: so basically I am in deep sh*t then Luke-Jr ;)
jurov: Luke-Jr: you forget one must be baptized
jborkl: ah i see, so only a 99%, not bad not bad
jborkl: loss
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: repenting is a prerequisite to making amends, it isn't amends in itself
jurov: unbatized souls go straight to dumper
Luke-Jr: jurov: no, that's included
JWU42: I did get baptized - so i have that going for me
Luke-Jr: jurov: we are born enemies of God, in a state of mortal sin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 342 @ 0.00084015 = 0.2873 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3550 @ 0.00010667 = 0.3787 BTC [+] {5}
mike_c: that's not entirely true jurov. unbaptized babies dont go to hell
Luke-Jr: mike_c: yes they do
mike_c: no, they don't. god told me
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JWU42: and there goes the looney alarm
Luke-Jr: mike_c: your "god" is a demon then
mircea_popescu: owned kakobrekla :D
Duffer1: i know right kako lol
jurov: mike_c: you were probably bapized as adult. they are allowed to tell adults lies such as this to get them into the church
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: is the amends required?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1224 @ 0.00010941 = 0.1339 BTC [+] {8}
mircea_popescu: do demons have buttsex with dead babies then ?
jurov: but me and luke_jr had proper catholic upbringing
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: if you don't make amends, it's questionable whether you were serious about repentence, at least.
mike_c: i have 10 years of catholic school. bring it.
jborkl: They are thinking about it
JWU42: It's a cult I tell you
mircea_popescu: mike_c nowai ?!
mike_c: yeswai
Luke-Jr: jurov: Catholics are not allowed to lie for any reason.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 6199 @ 0.00011 = 0.6819 BTC [+] {6}
mod6: not even about bfl?
mircea_popescu: lmao this neobbq shit is so lulzy
JWU42: !b3
jurov: mike_c: so what the babies do with the mortal sin? do tell
JWU42: grrr
JWU42: that was too good
jurov: Luke-Jr: they are, if they are convinced it's truth
mike_c: "Baptism does not exist to wipe away the "stain" of original sin, but to initiate one into the Church,"
JWU42: mod6: you get a gold star for that
Luke-Jr: jurov: it's not a lie, if you believe it yourself.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2856 @ 0.00011287 = 0.3224 BTC [+] {12}
jurov: ^ in other words.
Luke-Jr: jurov: furthermore, someone who believes that unbaptised babies *don't* go to Hell, is not a Catholic
mike_c: hah, incorrect
mike_c: i don't believe it, i was baptized, i am a catholic
Luke-Jr: mike_c: saying so doesn't make it true
mike_c: as a matter of fact i don't believe any of this crap and am still a catholic
mike_c: the church says it
kakobrekla: at this rate we will do luke-jr.bash.bitcoin-assets.com
Luke-Jr: mike_c: to be Catholic, you need to believe everything the Church teaches, by definition
Luke-Jr: if you deny any doctrine, you are by definition NOT Catholic
mike_c: no, you don't. where do you get this crap?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2247 @ 0.00011381 = 0.2557 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00096507 = 13.2215 BTC [-]
mike_c: incorrect. i was baptized, confirmed.
mike_c: i'm catholic, like it or not.
Luke-Jr: mike_c: that means you are *accountable* for being Catholic
Luke-Jr: and will be judged as one who should know better
jurov: mike_c they have lied to you in the school
JWU42: Is Luke-Jr really autistic?
Duffer1: so... pedastry is a catholic doctrine else those priests would have been excomunicated
Duffer1: got it
Luke-Jr: mike_c: but if you deny doctrine, you are a damned heretic until you repent
jborkl: did any priests touch you as a little boy? is'nt that requirment of being Catholic
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 8584 @ 0.00010414 = 0.8939 BTC [-] {12}
Luke-Jr: jborkl: troll
locksmith: I was baptized orthodox, anyone else here ortho?? join the cool club we're the men in black
mike_c: i am a damned heretic catholic. i have not been ex-communicated.
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: what is "doctrine?"
Luke-Jr: mike_c: heretics leave the Church of their own free will
jurov: danielpbarron: the catechism
Luke-Jr: mike_c: there is no need for excommunication
jborkl: That is a legit question, we do not have many Catholis here
mike_c: i'm not leaving! you can't make me either. sorry, you're stuck with me.
danielpbarron: jurov: so, not the Bible?
JWU42: and now I understand why I am not in here
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: any teaching of the Church (on matters of faith or moralS)
JWU42: that was enough for another 6 momnths
kakobrekla: it wasnt like that before you came in
Luke-Jr: mike_c: the act of denying doctrine, is in itself, one by which you have left
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: what is "the Church"
mircea_popescu: <JWU42> Is Luke-Jr really autistic? << no, he's just right.
jurov: danielpbarron: not. there is "biblical thelogy" and there is "Tradition of Catholic Church"
mircea_popescu: there's a difference.
Luke-Jr: mike_c: it's like the act of killing yourself, you cease to be alive
jurov: they'e distinc things
danielpbarron: jurov: does the tradition change over time?
mike_c: i was even an altar boy. i'm more catholic than you are.
mircea_popescu: wait, you were an ALTAR BOY ?
mike_c: great tips.
mircea_popescu: holy shit these exist.
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: no, nor is there a real distinction
mircea_popescu: i thought it's just an urban legend.
jurov: danielpbarron: ofc it does. but it's still infallible in every moment
mike_c: made a killing for funerals.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.056 = 0.112 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1367 @ 0.00010245 = 0.14 BTC [-] {7}
Luke-Jr: Catholicism (Scripture + Tradition) does not change, ever.
danielpbarron: jurov: can you demonstrate any miracles to prove that the alteration in tradition is legitimately from God?
locksmith: hmm so have the people trading read any news lately?
jborkl: They have a Latin Pope now, what about that ???
jurov: danielpbarron requesting miracles shows tongue of the Evil
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1323 @ 0.00010134 = 0.1341 BTC [-] {13}
mike_c: we're capitalizing Evil now too? :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58234142 = 1.1647 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: that was merely for you to imagine dramatic whisper
danielpbarron: jurov: according to whom?
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: anyhow, to finish off with this page: Catholicism *does* condemn homosexuals and muslims; even the Apotles baptised infants, as is necessary for their salvation; Christ's grace *is* sufficient to completely cleanse us of sin, but only if we make good use of it - otherwise we will need purgatory to deal with what we have been unwilling to change about our evilness
jurov: danielpbarron: Matthew 4,1-11
Luke-Jr: jurov: danielpbarron is absolutely right to demand miracles to testify to shepherds who cannot trace their authority to the Apostles
Luke-Jr: although even with miracles, one cannot justify changing doctrine
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr: is it a fair assessment to state that Catholicism as you describe it is not in accordance with the Bible? -- or, Catholicism is not a religion based on the Bible but instead on "the Church" which in this context refers specifically to an organization in Europe?
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: Catholicism is based on Christ's teachings, not the Bible. the Church is also not "in Europe", but universal.
Luke-Jr: the Bible is one of many written promulgations of the Church, in its course of doing its duty to teach the world
Mats_cd03: oh look its religion hour
Mats_cd03: how dull
jurov: lol "bible is promulgation of church" this is new for me
Mats_cd03: this is true
mike_c: the true word of God was handed down to Joseph Smith on some golden tupperware in 1822
Mats_cd03: was there anything in it
Luke-Jr: mike_c: that was a demon
jurov: wasn't that xenu?
mike_c: do not question the tupperware
Mats_cd03: chili mac and some religious documents
Luke-Jr: Mats_cd03: mike_c is referring to Mormonism
Luke-Jr: (or Moronism, if you prefer)
Mats_cd03: yes im making a joke
mike_c: for which you will go to hell
stompysteve: god isnt real
mircea_popescu: well that was fun but time for the ignores.
BingoBoingo: The last words of Jesus were "Fuck you" before he stumbled in front of a Tractor Trailer on I-70 outside Fairmont City
jurov: I, as the arm of Holy Church, hereby promulgate holy writings of L.Ron Hubbard as True Word of God
jurov: while my orger arm being busy with worship
jurov: *other
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: here is a real approved catechism: http://www.baltimore-catechism.com/
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> lmao this neobbq shit is so lulzy /// so fuckin surreal
mircea_popescu: i was expecting moar trades.
ThickAsThieves: i cant even forumlate a thought
mircea_popescu: that was it ? done ?
mircea_popescu: !t h neobeeq
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEEQ] 1D: 0.00000001 / 7.937E-5 / 0.00020000 (93554 shares, 7.42521178 BTC), 7D: 0.00000001 / 7.937E-5 / 0.00020000 (93554 shares, 7.42521178 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 0.00266159 / 0.00450000 (494965 shares, 1317.39453993 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 22882 @ 0.00005223 = 1.1951 BTC [-] {8}
Duffer1: o.0
mircea_popescu: 7.937E-5 lol that sounds right
locksmith: mircea_popescu so are they trading for the lulz? cos I don't see any other reason
mircea_popescu: locksmith prolly.
ThickAsThieves: "Its too cheap for me not to buy, hell i dont even care if i lose!"
mircea_popescu: maybe a few people are trading to acquire a standing to sue.
mike_c: buy side is picking up cheap lotto tickets. sell side doesn't want to have to see those shares on their balance sheet anymore.
mircea_popescu: sounds about right.
BingoBoingo: So... What does NeoBBQ mean for the NeoBee BitBet
psterryl: someone bought 10k shares at 1 satoshi
psterryl: if they then flipped them at 0.00012
jurov: BingoBoingo: it's no longer neobee
jurov: just an undead something
psterryl: that over 1mil% profit
psterryl: *that's
BingoBoingo: jurov: Seems to make sense
ThickAsThieves: reverse gemming?
stompysteve: well site down and last price was like .00000000 so i guess GG
stompysteve: for now
kakobrekla: price got so low it was hard to reach the 0.1 btc sum trading vol per minute to post out trades here so we missed the 'action'
mircea_popescu: course the other explanation is, officers buying to reduce their legal exposure.
mircea_popescu: this is fraudulent in and of itself, but clueless noobs a la danny prolly dunno about it.
mircea_popescu: so if he left with as much as 50 btc, spending that to buy shares for 1% of par may seem to him a good use of funds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2117 @ 0.00005014 = 0.1061 BTC [-] {8}
mircea_popescu: obviously if the asset was delisted at the company's request
mircea_popescu: it'd stabd to reason it was also relisted in the same manner.
mike_c: havelock said they relisted it because they haven't heard anything from neobee.
mike_c: which seemed like an odd reason.
locksmith: imo havelock's full of shit
stompysteve: its also odd they didnt give like 24 hour notice or anything
mircea_popescu: a knot of innovative business practices.
jborkl: NEOBEEQ฿0.0001 Market cap ฿132
jborkl: heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00096639 = 15.5589 BTC [+]
[KS]: mircea_popescu: now I'm officially calling scammers on Havelock.
[KS]: hi
BingoBoingo: Havelock buying all of the shares to get legal standing to sue?
[KS]: WTF does Havelock to do with buyg NB shares?
ozbot: Prospectus - V2.0 - Main Body - Google Drive
jborkl: March 17th 2014
[KS]: seriously, WTF is wrong with these ppl. his is grounds for suiing them.
[KS]: On March 28, 2014 Havelock Investments halted trading of the NEOBEE Fund; Havelock Investments has yet to receive any formal information in regards to the questionable trading activity on the LMB share platform website. We have not received any formal information on the current situation at LMB Holdings. Due to those factors we have decided that the unit holders on the NEOBEE Fund should no longer be suspended from trading their units.
[KS]: The Fund will now be designated as NEOBEEQ to reflect the uncertainty of the future of LMB Holdings – NEO BEE Ltd. Financial information on the status of the company has not been released. The units of this Fund will continue to trade even if the company will file for bankruptcy. We will continue to update you if any information is provided to us.
[KS]: Trading will resume today at 5:00 PM EST
[KS]: Thank you for investing with Havelock Investments!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.05999984 = 1.08 BTC [+]
[KS]: So, you don't have news and thus promptly unilateraly decide to re-list an asset? really?
jurov: paranormal activity, i say.
jurov: i thought it was aliens, but it's actually zombies
locksmith: I'm telling you panama's smoking bad grass
BingoBoingo: NeoBeeQ seems to be some sort of derivative of the now non-existent NeoBee of a like not seen since pirate debt was securitized
locksmith: they're saying it's neobeeQuestionable, thus the Q
mircea_popescu: this is what you get when you let forum "professionals" do things.
mike_c: goxbux got traded for a little while.
[KS]: NEOBEEQ doesn't exist. If you had NEOBEE shares, Haelock has stolen them from you and turned them into HavelockCOins, a Goxcoin derivative.
jborkl: Who was it in bitcoin GLBSE that came up with a. holds b. and b holbs c. and c. holds a. and b. so there is no risk
BingoBoingo: jborkl: Usagi?
jborkl: ah yes, thank you
jborkl: should have been obvious
[KS]: A cousin of DAnk?
BingoBoingo: No, Dank just took Bitcoins in exchange for word salad
locksmith: I need to know what these people are buying if not thin air. neobee/danny do not have any BTC left
Shakespeare: "In sum, over the past 6 years, our audit work has uncovered significant contract file
Shakespeare: management deficiencies in Department contracts/task orders with a total value of more
Shakespeare: than $6 billion. "
cazalla: locksmith: likely these types of people think it's a good time to do some dollar cost averaging http://www.reddit.com/r/neobee/comments/227tng/why_im_holding_onto_neobee/
mircea_popescu: jborkl usagi.
mircea_popescu: word salad roflmao.
mircea_popescu: aptly put.
[KS]: BingoBoingo: looks the same to me.
cazalla: can't, deleted my reddit account
mike_c: kakobrekla: -trades is unfiltered, right? small trades get through?
mrstickball: so how do you guys see the future of coin-based assets?
mrstickball: I am trying to make sense of it all, given so many bad actors and skeevy exchanges
mircea_popescu: mrstickball pls to read logs ty.
Shakespeare: the Bitcoin Fundnation says "we’ve been lazy and undisciplined about getting updates written in the face of so much possible content. Jon Matonis is tackling this"
Shakespeare: '’ve put forward a challenge to the team: “Say a lot more.”'
Shakespeare: more words!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1700 @ 0.0000992 = 0.1686 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0614 = 0.1842 BTC [+]
mrstickball: mircea_popescu: which logs, exactly
Shakespeare: "They’ve risen to the challenge, and have as a first response opened up read access to our member forums to the public. "
Shakespeare: share the words!
locksmith: it's ok just dropped the link on reddit myself
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0619 = 0.1238 BTC [+]
Shakespeare: "Finally, I’ve asked Jon Matonis to update you on the details of operations and finances of the Foundation. Expect that soon."
Shakespeare: Soon tm
mircea_popescu: Shakespeare didn't they kick matonis out at some point because he wanted to be on the press contacts list or something ?
Shakespeare: the rumors of his death were exaggerated
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 11058 @ 0.00008781 = 0.971 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.061999 = 0.124 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61698999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 17171 @ 0.00009997 = 1.7166 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0381 = 0.2286 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: mike_c yes
Shakespeare: "The company recently put up a page for "Amazon Dash," a shopping accessory"
mike_c: thx
Shakespeare: it's a barcode scanner and mic
Shakespeare: buy things so you can buy things!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0381 = 0.2667 BTC [+]
ozbot: Revealed: Rahm Emanuel cuts public pensions, diverts money to benefit campaign donors | PandoDaily
mircea_popescu: "I believe the community demand is great enough to carry this idea onward, and I look forward to their success."
mircea_popescu: bwahahahaha
mircea_popescu: who sold all these idiots on "community" ?
mircea_popescu: masterful job.
stompysteve: whats the number in the {} mean
psterryl: how many individual trades there were
stompysteve: thanks
mircea_popescu: how many trades were collated into the line
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 900 @ 0.00011898 = 0.1071 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05999985 = 0.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 20 @ 0.01500003 = 0.3 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1900 @ 0.00014879 = 0.2827 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2100 @ 0.00013 = 0.273 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: Triple Entry Accounting
mircea_popescu: this is really an excellent write-up.
mircea_popescu: should be in the wiki imo, either as-is or mildly rewritten
mircea_popescu: prolly as-is with credit
ozbot: The Baldwin Project: The Red Fairy Book by Andrew Lang
asciilifeform: relevant to... things.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1009 @ 0.00014869 = 0.15 BTC [-] {4}
Duffer1: luke-jr still around?
stompysteve: lol whoever got those 10k shares at .000000000000001 is gonna have some fun with neobee over the next lil while
jadne: heh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2600 @ 0.00014878 = 0.3868 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: NPR Media Player
tg2: lol
tg2: teen birth rates drop 5.9% because of "16 and pregnant" lol
midnightmagic: education strikes again
tg2: fear education
midnightmagic: realism education
jurov: wow that triple entry... looks like something i wrestled with and reimplemented badly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00013 = 0.13 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 980 @ 0.00012499 = 0.1225 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4817 @ 0.00096678 = 4.657 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: jurov >D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00096802 = 18.9248 BTC [+] {2}
cmyers: wow, epic scrollback history. It's like watching a star wars versus star trek argument.
cmyers: "Everyone knows the death star would *totally* destroy the enterprise because the technical manual says so!"
cmyers: "Clearly my intepretation is right!"
truffles: lol nerds
cmyers: "But george lucas PRODUCED the technical manual, he is biased, lolz"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 14 @ 0.01999992 = 0.28 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: catholic nerdery? onoes
jurov: makes me explicit :(
truffles: jurov atheist?
jurov: no, catholic raised fag
truffles: u couldve changed since?
jurov: you can't really change. it sticks with you
Mats_cd03: do you feel robbed
jurov: they are really deeply ingrained. both catholicism and homosexuality
jurov: Mats_cd03: i don
jurov: 't have basis for comparison
ozbot: The Overprotected Kid - The Atlantic
jurov: maybe other people are robbed because then they can't understand zealotry, who knows
truffles: were u touched ?
jurov: no, why?
truffles: seems a thing they do..
jurov: everyone does
jurov: all the time
truffles: well i agree its tough to shake off the religious stuff
truffles: i find some value in some of it though
Mats_cd03: i feel robbed
Mats_cd03: indoctrinated with garbage
truffles: it could be worse
mircea_popescu: so i'm the largest crafter in rift by such a wide margin that the next two people are smaller than me combined :D
mircea_popescu: i'd guess there's between 10 and 20ish people working 40 hour weeks at feeding my vast industrial complex with raw materials.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0381 = 0.381 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05999996 = 0.48 BTC [+] {2}
truffles: good for u
khersonus: can you make money off of that somehow?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58010002 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58010001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: khersonus i guess you could.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 4800 @ 0.00010809 = 0.5188 BTC [-] {7}
khersonus: so, btc is not the only "game currency" you have found success in
khersonus: I'm still not sure that argument would hold up in court...
mircea_popescu: hehe, no.
cazalla: surely there are only 5 people left playing rift? :P
mircea_popescu: there's ~1k just in the bitcoin guild.
mircea_popescu: this is the smaller shard. there's 2 larger ones, plus a few smaller ones
mircea_popescu: (the marketplace is shared tho)
cazalla: i bought it when it came out, didn't really give it longer than a week though
cazalla: same deal with swtor, interesting how they both went f2p
mircea_popescu: i actually paid them for 6 months.
cazalla: hopefully EQN is a great game, have not sunk much time into mmorpgs since wow/eq days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1254 @ 0.00009699 = 0.1216 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: i didn't like either.
mircea_popescu: was in closed beta of both, didn't play past it
cazalla: what didn't you like about EQ?
cazalla: mcquad is making yet another mmorpg, funded this time by kickstarter, i'm sure it will end just like vanguard though
cazalla: mcquaid even
mircea_popescu: i dont even remember.
mircea_popescu: dumbass crafting for sure.
matt_boyd123: Still haven't got round to playing Rift :(
matt_boyd123: Was playing LoL for way too long.
cazalla: what do you play matt?
matthew_boyd: Like in general or?
cazalla: in LoL
matthew_boyd: Oh, I play Riven :)
matthew_boyd: I love that champion.
cazalla: i like leona for sup
matthew_boyd: Yea, for sure.
matthew_boyd: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/51811207#matches -- my match history. I had to quit, but before I did, I had an 18 win streak.
ozbot: MidRivenEUW - Europe West - Summoners - League of Legends
cazalla: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/oce/302360 but i have not played in a while
matthew_boyd: Nice man!
matthew_boyd: I haven't been in this chat for like, a year?
matthew_boyd: Fuck, haha.
cazalla: lol not really, i was a shitkunt but i don't have the time to dedicate to it
matthew_boyd: Haha, oh well, it's only a game, then again. :)
cazalla: to be 16 again and have 24/7
matthew_boyd: Haha, I am 16, however, I do not have that sort of time. :P
matthew_boyd: I have about 1 hour to myself a day.
cazalla: sounds like you make better use of it
matthew_boyd: Anyway, it's late here, and I have to revise tomorrow.
matthew_boyd: Talk to you later, cazalla. :)
cazalla: ttyl
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 10589 @ 0.00009999 = 1.0588 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.0009659 = 14.9232 BTC [-]
Luke-Jr: Duffer1: ?
Duffer1: Luke-Jr I called you an idiot earlier, I'm sorry
Duffer1: just wanted to apologize
Luke-Jr: Duffer1: are you still confused about idolatry?
Duffer1: lol i am not at all interested in restarting that conversation
mike_c: February was JD's lowest ever monthly wagered volume. Until March when it dropped another 40%.
mike_c: and for those sans javascript: http://i.imgur.com/6zFGjFP.png
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29650 @ 0.0009659 = 28.6389 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: nice work mike_c
mike_c: thx. hopefully not a good btc investment headed for the crapper.
mike_c: maybe people are bored of rolling dice.
kakobrekla: or just lost it all already
cazalla: i thought dooglus would've run with the coins by now
mike_c: dooglus seems like a very standup guy.
cazalla: yeah he does
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0599 = 0.1797 BTC [-]
bounce: ``Two other exchanges hit by the same problem, Bitstamp Ltd. of Slovenia and BTC-e of Bulgaria, resumed normal trading after working out a fix with software coders coordinated by the Bitcoin Foundation.'' (wsj) -- I don't recall the bitcoin foundation having much to do with it. case of inserting yourself for marketeering purposes?
mircea_popescu: mike_c interesting stuff
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 15388 BTC profit, 32.0k BTC invested, 976.46 mio bets, 5.13 mio BTC wagered
mike_c: not sure what to make of it.
mircea_popescu: sdice showed the exact same hump pattern over its lifetime
mircea_popescu: novelty effect maybe ?
mike_c: yeah, could be. it's just not interesting enough to hold people's attention. customer churn is higher than new customer acquisition.
cazalla: how does doge-dice compare?
mircea_popescu: bounce pretty much
mircea_popescu: "let's pretend like we matter by pretending like we matter."
mircea_popescu: mike_c what boggles my mind is... 5mn wagered should show 50k profit.
mircea_popescu: it's been stuck around 12-15kish forever neh ?
mike_c: it is heavily skewed by nakowa, the huge lucky bettor.
mircea_popescu: but that was long ago ?
mike_c: yeah. but since then it has largely tracked expected returns
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00096577 = 24.2891 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: o it has ?
bounce: too bad journos are suckers for that sort of crap. and apparently there's good dues revenue in it too. nice racket.
mike_c: last three months, 425k wagered.
mircea_popescu: bounce revenue what ?
mike_c: so expected would only be 4k profit
mircea_popescu: and actual profit ?
bounce briefly wonders if there'd be legitimate purposes for a "bitcoin foundation", and what sort of people you'd want in there, then.
mike_c: ~ 4.5k
mircea_popescu: ah then that's cool.
bounce: ``The Bitcoin Foundation is basically the official establishment of a loose collection of technology geeks, businessmen, and big-government skeptics from around the world. The 18-month-old group has thousands of members, plus roughly $3 million in dues and donations contributed in bitcoins.''
bounce: treacherous use of "official" there
mircea_popescu: they got some donations originally, when btc was cheap.
bounce: what's the speshul extra spendy memberships cost again?
mircea_popescu: bounce well, shot the only guy on the authors list with any sm exposure a tweet.
mircea_popescu: bounce basically ver donated i dun recall, 3k btc was it ? back when btc was 50ish
bounce: oh dear. a tweet!
bounce: ;;calc 3000 * [tlast]
gribble: 1350000
mircea_popescu: a few forum muppets split a coupla hundred btc between a thousand or so heads
mircea_popescu: and the rest is open to debate.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.01200125 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 3000 @ 0.00012599 = 0.378 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0598 = 0.6578 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1369 @ 0.000127 = 0.1739 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03809999 = 0.381 BTC [-]
bounce: looking at their membership page and the dues listed --in usd but payable in "bitcoin index", taking usd for reference here, and taking the yearlies for just one year-- I'm calculating a band of 405925 to 440225 USD-worth lower bound actually paid
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 939 @ 0.00013398 = 0.1258 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00096552 = 16.8966 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: this is actually remarkably accurate afaik.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00096874 = 8.5733 BTC [+] {2}
bounce: eh, I made a boo-boo in the upper band. missing some 400k-odd, so 400k-800k. lemme check the numbers again.
mike_c: looks like neobeeq has settled in at a 93% drop from suspended price. another win for havelock.
benkay: half your money!
benkay: hey mircea_popescu thanks for the front page tweet
benkay: had to wait for some other twuser to let me know
mircea_popescu: you have a tweetar ?
benkay: odd thing is that other people are now letting me hear about where else my blatherings are popping up o.O
benkay: ffs are you kidding me?
kakobrekla checks
kakobrekla: yeah surfer dude is invested innit
kakobrekla: >The Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund (BBBB) initiated a position in the Neo & Bee Payment Network (Havelock: NEOBEE) on 03/07 buying 18 shares. The fund will continue to increase this position in the near term. I love the tangibility of NEOBEE's assets. They have brick and mortar branches and will be providing vital financial services to an area that has traditionally been "under-banked."
benkay: 140 characters signifying nothing
kakobrekla: a whole 18 shares of loss.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ahahaha who runs this ?
benkay: surfcapital management?
ozbot: [Cryptostocks] BBBB Bitcoin Emerging Market Fund
mircea_popescu: pretty fucking epic lol.
mircea_popescu: "i love the tangibility of neobee's assets". "oops... they had no assets"
mircea_popescu: "Peer-to-peer lending is risky. We can mitigate fraud losses by our due diligence. BTCJam provides great analytics on borrower creditworthiness. "
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 15 @ 0.10144642 = 1.5217 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fucktards are fucktared, news at eight.
mircea_popescu: our due dilligence, loving the tangibility of newbie assets.
cads: in my famous and well loved series of clueless questions, what are some books that you guys think any entrepreneur should read after his fifth failure, right before making it big!
BingoBoingo: [KS]: Understanding the difference between usagi and dank is critical for classing other scams
asciilifeform: can't wait until somebody thinks of offering fucktard loans with... btc private keys as collateral.
mircea_popescu: im blogging this.
cads: sorry I made that question _extra_ clueless, for humor.
benkay: ANATHEMA
mircea_popescu: cads i think you should detail your previous five failures on a blog.
mircea_popescu: then we can halp you.
KRS-One: HALP HALP!
benkay: NO HALP ME
cads: mircea_popescu: haha, that would be a lovely blog
benkay: this channel really burnt a solid day talking about sky faeries?
cads: I'm glad I missed that.
benkay: sorta thing drives me to productivity
benkay: and drink.
benkay: but mostly productivity.
BingoBoingo: cads: Prolly read some Thales
cads: The philosopher?
BingoBoingo: cads: He made good business
cads: As a fifth tier entrepreneur, I have decided to rewire my mushy brain with the classic modes of thought!
cads: BingoBoingo: seems like this guy is good to read as part of one's culture studies
BingoBoingo: cads: How he made his fortune is worth looking into
bloctoc: how does one pronounce Mircea Popescu?
cads: The first known individual to which a mathematical discovery is attributed.
cads: bloctoc: MrrrrrRrrrRR-CEA PPppPppscu
cads: while grovveling
cads: and crying
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: bloctoc ^
bloctoc: thanks! now I can phone in my reports to the viceroy
cads: huh, I need to look into algorithmically summarizing the log file
cads: I think I'm naturally half dyslexic and half autistic because I can't read fast, especially when you throw social contexts into the mix and especially when there are multiple speakers
cads: sometimes I can barely keep up in real time with a medium load, 5 speaker IRC conversation
cads: sometimes I use text to speech to help reduce to brain load
thestringpuller: i should play sad music
thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00095605 / 0.00096103 / 0.00096895 (962115 shares, 924.62 BTC), 7D: 0.00093355 / 0.00094921 / 0.00096895 (6220253 shares, 5,904.36 BTC), 30D: 0.000745 / 0.00088782 / 0.00096895 (28968485 shares, 25,718.87 BTC)
cads: anyways, more recently I've heard about this 18 year old kid that sold his text summarization company Summly to Yahoo for 30 million bucks
ozbot: 5-year-old cracks Xbox One security by discovering simple flaw - GameSpot
thestringpuller: you seem to type just fine cads
cads: typing works well
cads: about 60-70 wpm, I'm happy with that
mircea_popescu: cads if text to speec hreduces your brain load you need to go back to school.
cazalla: i believe the summly kid is from australia
mircea_popescu: learn to read yo.
cads: mircea_popescu: I've always been a heavy reader, it's honest to goodness just the switching social contexts that do it
jborkl: Now we know how msft hacks, just leave the password blank
mircea_popescu: cads i can see it. needs practice tho
cads: not a bad thing if I happen to also take measures to increase the effective bandwidth of the text I read
cads: another area I could improve on is being taken in by heavy use of jargon
benkay: just set scam filters to trigger hard when jargon appears
cads: but that's because I tend to fill in the details with the actual real work I've read dealing with the terms
cads: and fool myself that the author really means something
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what is the ad space cost on bitbet?
cads: benkay: I live and breath jargon :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83000 @ 0.00097009 = 80.5175 BTC [+] {7}
cads: oh, hey, this reminds me
cads: idea I've had for a while
bounce: ok, lower bound is still 405925: all silvers are small, one year, all anons are yearly. upper bound is now 907675: all silvers are large, all anons are lifetime, and 3 years of dues for the yearlies
cads: i want to teach math in a virtual pirate math university
cads: where our library is a virtual library of pirated shiz
cads: and our teachers are just kids on the net
thestringpuller: da fuq you on about?
cads: being Professor Cads in an underground university
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller minium of .1, rotation based on what you pay
thestringpuller: is that for like what a month?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2001 @ 0.0001482 = 0.2965 BTC [+] {8}
bounce: (assuming the industry memberships are lifetime, doesn't say one way or the other)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1500 @ 0.0001488 = 0.2232 BTC [+]
ozbot: These fucktards have to be immortalised, they’re worse than Dr. Foreskin even pe Trilema - Un blog
mircea_popescu: surf fund and topics.
cazalla: did you see their office?
mircea_popescu: dude what fucking difference does it make.
mircea_popescu: i know plenty of quite competend hedgies that don't even have an office.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 582 @ 0.00558241 = 3.249 BTC [-] {20}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 408 @ 0.00540766 = 2.2063 BTC [-] {9}
thestringpuller: lol you're better off investing blindly on bets in bitbet than investing it with tards on teh forum
thestringpuller: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00056 / 0.00056 / 0.00056 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00049074 / 0.00059 (12152 shares, 5.96 BTC)
ozbot: BitBet - NeoBee Orphaned in 2014
mircea_popescu: whoever made that thing knew.
kakobrekla: thestringpuller just copy the mods really.
kakobrekla: what is so funny
thestringpuller: that placing bets on bitbet is likely to have a greater yield than with the scam mp just presented
thestringpuller: can't help but laugh...
mircea_popescu: not even a scam, just kids being tarded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.06598907 = 0.3299 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.037 = 0.185 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0731 = 0.1462 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.07939999 = 0.1588 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17078 @ 0.00097224 = 16.6039 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 8407 @ 0.0001096 = 0.9214 BTC [-] {16}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1600 @ 0.00009919 = 0.1587 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15140 @ 0.00097257 = 14.7247 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00096578 = 5.2152 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 57 @ 0.0075 = 0.4275 BTC [+] {2}
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