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nubbins`: if eating is a burden, you're doing it wrong
cazalla: yeah, i miss the pre panda/penguin days
nubbins`: hahahaha this album is fucked
mircea_popescu: you gotta chew...
cazalla: i had so many 4slicetoaster.com websites plastered with their engrish
chetty: what you never got bored of chewing nubbins?
nubbins`: i honestly can't hear most of it when we play
nubbins`: because the drums are so goddamn loud
nubbins`: but this is fucking rich
mircea_popescu: drum cowbell ?
nubbins`: no cowbell, heavy on the cymbals tho
mircea_popescu: same deal.
nubbins`: chetty: sometimes my mouth gets tired, but only when it's a really delicious meal that i feel i need to eat quickly
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know, just because for w/e reason you don't perceive it as a burden
mircea_popescu: doesn't mean it isn't.
the20year: sell wall on bitstamp is about halfway through
nubbins`: well, everything's a burden to some schmo
mircea_popescu: the20year idiot zonehenge "karpeles quits bf, price plumets"
mircea_popescu: totally infantile these people. and i mean, the bitcoinwife being a clueless bint is one thing
the20year: Seems like price has gone up to me
nubbins`: haha how drunk was i when we recorded this
nubbins`: the dogs got into a fight and we all started barking at them
mod6: its a never-ending parade of idiots commenting on twitter about bitcoin
mircea_popescu: mod6 commenting'd be one thing.
mircea_popescu: the problem is they have the unmitigated audacity to pretend like they know what they're talking about.
mod6: very true.
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones bitcoin has proven leaders you see. max keiser et co :D
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mircea_popescu: TIL nick szabo thinks peak oil is nonsense.
benkay: does he make coherent arguments on the topic?
benkay: oh the underwater mining routine?
mircea_popescu: sort-of. difficult to evail
ozbot: Mining the Vasty Deep
mircea_popescu: Some perspective, even some purely theoretical perspective, is in order. If we look at the problem at the scale of the solar system, we find that hydrocarbons are remarkably common -- Titan has clouds and lakes of ethane and methane, for example, and there are trillions of tonnes of hydrocarbons, at least, to be found on comets and in the atmospheres and moons of the gas giant planets. What is far more scarce in the so
mircea_popescu: lar system is free oxygen. If there will ever be a "peak" in the inputs to hydrocarbon combustion in the solar system it will be in free oxygen -- which as a natural occurence is extremely rare beyond Earth's atmosphere, and is rather expensive to make artificially.
mircea_popescu: for instance.
mircea_popescu: this is in fact sound, at that scale.
mircea_popescu: and while the "Carbon" preoccupation is laughable on the part of hte "climate scientists", ie the dudes dressed in white coats on tv screens,
mircea_popescu: nevertheless it's a fact that oxygen saturation in atmosphere has been dropping for the past coupla centuries.
mircea_popescu: "fresh air" ain't quite as fresh as it used to be.
benkay: ocean mining is a thing i plan to do when properly capitalized.
mircea_popescu: to the tune of what, 100 trn ?
benkay: har
benkay: no, i think building robots
mircea_popescu: yeah but you'll need a coupla aircraft carriers + a bunch of nuke subs
mircea_popescu: just in case anyone gets uppity.
benkay: for what now?
mircea_popescu: protecting your exploration sites
mircea_popescu: you never played starcraft ?
benkay: o yeah
benkay: i see i see
KRS-One: starcraft ftw
mircea_popescu: ok wise assets of wisdom, i have a stupid question.
mircea_popescu: when i was a kid i loved a game, something like 3max or somesuch. it consisted basicalyl of this, you built robot metallic things, and fought over land an water against enemies.
mircea_popescu: sort of way cooler dune, and it had hotseat multiplayer
mircea_popescu: i could never find it again ;/ anyone know it ?
mircea_popescu: you could pick "races", one was musashi
mircea_popescu: it got bonus to planes iirc
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nubbins`: TBF when you keep making people and stop making trees, the level of O2 is obv going to decline ;p
nubbins`: i for one welcome the arrival of intelligent plants
mircea_popescu: iirc algae actually produce more oxygen than trees
mircea_popescu: and in fact there's more of them today than 200 years ago, because we keep dumping all this organic and iron into the ocean
nubbins` shakes head
nubbins`: dead algae gobble oxygen
nubbins`: this is why people are worried about massive algal blooms in the ocean
benkay: nautilus minerals has apparently canceled their deep sea mining relationship with whichever tinpot country they were working with
mircea_popescu: benkay those are shares to hold
mircea_popescu: provided they'll actually not renege.
mircea_popescu: currently it's riskier to hold fiat shares than it is to hold bitcoin shares
mircea_popescu: provided you have the sense to identify which shares are worth holding in the first place.
benkay: nautilus shares?
benkay: i'd kill for some. or to work with them.
mircea_popescu: they're a penny stock neh ?
benkay: well, maybe holding stock is too much exposure
benkay: but robots man! i've always had a hardon for robots. i'd like to get back to hacking on robots, and of larger scale too.
benkay: yeah i bet nautilus needed a shitton of capital
benkay: aren't all exploration stocks penny stocks?
benkay: "we're gonna strike gooooold!"
mircea_popescu: nah not really
mircea_popescu: the way the exploration market works is, the governments holding explorable land spend some public money on support services for idiots. like i dunno, geologist support.
mircea_popescu: the idiots, who are people who wish to strike it big, take all the risk and go camp in the wild, whittling their lives away fighing the impossible odds of nature.
mircea_popescu: the smarter and luckier actually get exploration companies together, which have possibly valuable claims.
mircea_popescu: once a claim is actually worth enough, the majors buy them out.
mircea_popescu: pretty much all fields have a few majors in this business.
randomcloud: How do you know all of this crap?
benkay: there is one major difference with nautilus, however.
nubbins`: the process of procuring a claim here is a bit of an odd thing
mircea_popescu: randomcloud im a businessman. i know business. it's what i do.
nubbins`: once a year the canadian government sells titles
nubbins`: first come first serve
randomcloud: Do you do stuff just in bitcoin or outside of it?
nubbins`: the exploration companies pay bums to camp out in lineups for days/weeks
mircea_popescu: randomcloud i used to have a well paid consultancy before bitcoin swallowed me.
the20year: titles?
nubbins`: land titles
mircea_popescu: nubbins` aren't you describing the exact same thing ? :)
nubbins` thinks
randomcloud: Oh. That's pretty cool.
nubbins`: yes, i am
mircea_popescu: i kinda tried to give an abstraction, pretty much all countries with explorable land do some variant of it.
mircea_popescu: possibly the russkis being the lulziest
nubbins`: canada's north is the hot spot these days
nubbins`: not just for minerals either, hence all the hand-waving and sabre-rattling around claims to the north pole
mircea_popescu: a war over the np would be cool.
mircea_popescu: "GERMANY INVADES SANTAS HOUSE!"
nubbins`: canada, russia, denmark
benkay: rendered irrelevant by deep sea mining though
mircea_popescu: benkay sort-of.
nubbins`: and the usa i guess, 'cos of alaska
mircea_popescu: benkay amusingly, it's exactly the same thing, because of the huge capital barriers involved.
nubbins`: fun fact, the easternmost point in north america is in denmark
benkay: pick up nautilus for pennies on the dime when they go under, mircea_popescu
benkay: they have sweet machines
mircea_popescu: benkay whjen they go under it'd be too late.
mircea_popescu: shareholders are last in line
mircea_popescu: and moreover, even if they strike it big, repudiation is a major concern.
ozbot: MtGox.com (MtGox) on Twitter
mircea_popescu: lol they beleeted it all ?
benkay: pardon, mp but repududiation?
benkay: repudiation*
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mircea_popescu: repudiation is the unilateral rejection of a claim. like what companies do on havelock,
mircea_popescu: o you owned shares ? fu.
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benkay: i'll settle for the machines.
nubbins`: wait, those are companies?
nubbins`: (where are those drumsticks...0
mircea_popescu: nubbins` soyouthink some canadian penny stock is so much better ?
mircea_popescu: who is going to send in the army, ww1 style, to protect your claims
mircea_popescu: like the us protected rockefeller's ?
mircea_popescu: the russians even weren't able to protect the claims of their oligarchs in cyprus
mircea_popescu: and cyprus is a shitty island
benkay: whole mining stack gets snatched up and taken over by the government.
mircea_popescu: (obv the russian govt side would very much argue that they did a splendid job, protected it via diplomacy.)
mircea_popescu: benkay canada has a history of stealing corps anyway.
mircea_popescu: under the guise of "regulation" or w/e.
ozbot: Newfoundland and Labrador v. AbitibiBowater Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: basically, no armored divisions, no fiat investments.
nubbins`: "Background" in particular
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mircea_popescu: The company closed its paper mill in Stephenville, Newfoundland in 2005, and announced in 2008 that it would also close its plant in Grand Falls-Windsor. The Newfoundland and Labrador House of Assembly promptly passed legislation expropriating AbitibiBowater's assets in the province. This included the cancellation of “water and hydroelectric contracts and agreements” between the province and Abitibi, the cancellati
mircea_popescu: on of ongoing legal proceedings Abitibi had against the province, and the blocking of access to Newfoundland’s courts by Abitibi.
mircea_popescu: compare and contrast this with that idiot judge guy,
ozbot: The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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nubbins`: "The government later learned it had accidentally expropriated the former mill property in central Newfoundland — and its environmental liabilities — as well."
nubbins`: i picture a room full of suits furrowing their brows and wondering aloud if they can un-expropriate things
benkay: worse than suits
benkay: bureaucrats
mircea_popescu: when in fact the room should have been full of suits suddenly realising that the guillotine is for them.
nubbins`: if only
benkay: the tanks'll have to change hands first.
nubbins`: the guy in charge at the time was a real hothead
nubbins`: there was some disagreement about federal money and he ordered the canadian flag be taken down from all provincial government buildings
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nubbins`: quite a stir that caused
mircea_popescu: benkay i doubt that'll end up mattering. as it is right now, nobody cares who can ride horses or owns a pair of chaps
benkay: you're saying we're headed clean back to horses?
r3wt: ;;bcauth r3wt
gribble: Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!add82c3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.216.44.61. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2622c373f57f74c8f9ceb5e6246b25d8274e96de15a86d5dcbbaa7d0
mircea_popescu: benkay im saying that things such as nukes, and tanks, and so on are grossly unimportant anymore.
mircea_popescu: if you read that facebook explanation of the thing in the ukraine, the guy clearly states that the police did not dare intervene in force chiefly becayse "we know where they live and would have killed them off one by one"
benkay: more along the lines of "who can muster a pickup full of men with shotguns"
mircea_popescu: this is true. "we know where you live". whats the tank good for ?
benkay: task for lurking do-gooders: liberate the list of police names and addresses in all of your hometowns
benkay: i betcha US cops use windows systems. shouldn't be hard.
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benkay: just kidding, meta-nsa
r3wt kicks in benkay's door
chetty: The holding up a mirror to the police was pretty good
r3wt: "freeze muthafucka!"
nubbins`: chetty, i liked that
mircea_popescu: oh my game was "M.A.X: Mechanized Assault and Exploration"
mircea_popescu: thank you person.
benkay: makes me want to build a pay-to-play 4x webgame
benkay: grah infinite possibly fun things to do
mircea_popescu: impossibru
nubbins`: set up a money exchange in eulora
nubbins`: done like dinner
benkay: nubbins`: more arcade style "put in some doge! some lite! some bit! get stuff to use!"
asciilifeform: jurov: (perhaps belated) 'duplicate moduli' is exactly what it says on the box.
asciilifeform: jurov: p1q1 = p2q2, for some p2q2
B007: I think you misunderstand the purpose of tanks and nukes, they are for foriegn wars
nubbins`: ^ incidentally this is where "mind your Ps and Qs" came from
nubbins`: B007, you sure about that?
B007: pretty sure, yeah
B007: people have always known where local cops lived
benkay: the suburbanization of north america has really atomized people B007 it's not like the eu at all
benkay: part of what makes this country so horrible
benkay: all the damn space
B007: that doesn't make it horrible
nubbins`: you think you've got it bad down there
r3wt: i could have sworn it was the hipsters, high on their own farts dragging this country down.
mircea_popescu: B007 your notion of foreign is broken tho.
mircea_popescu: it used to mean shomething, 500 years ago. now i'm more likely to fuck a foreign chick than a local one.
B007: perhaps
mircea_popescu: in fact, im not even sure i fucked a romanian this year.
nubbins`: what does foreign even mean
nubbins`: as a canadian, it doesn't mean jack shit to me
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, all military operations are against people.
BitcoinSachs: I was told there was a fair amount of BitcoinWife bashing going on in here.
nubbins`: an icelandic man might feel differently
mircea_popescu: hello BitcoinSachs
mircea_popescu: you married to her ?
BitcoinSachs: Nope, but she is a good friend of mine.
mircea_popescu: good for her.
KRS-One: i can't take it anymore
KRS-One: .bait
BitcoinSachs: Bunch of cowards sitting behind a IRC chat talking shit on someone.
KRS-One: ahhh
mircea_popescu: BitcoinSachs do you know how to read the logs ?
B007: link at the top
mircea_popescu: B007 yes but he comes from an environment where the obvious and common sense aren't either obvious or common.
BitcoinSachs: I've already heard all I need to about the bullshit being said in here.
nubbins`: lel x5
mircea_popescu: BitcoinSachs do you know who you're making a fool of yourself in front of ?
nubbins`: you've certainly got a bee in your bonnet
BitcoinSachs: If you know who I am, you also are well aware I don't give a fuck.
B007: ok
nubbins`: well, now that that's established
mircea_popescu: so then what are you doing there ?
BitcoinSachs: Attack one of my friends, and I will show up.
nubbins`: and..... talk to people?
mircea_popescu: i never heard of anyone posessed of this highschooler attitude mattering in any context, fwiw.
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mircea_popescu: nubbins` i believe the expression is, "coward sitting behind a IRC chat talking shit on someone."
BitcoinSachs: Says the half-tards smack talking someone not here because she makes them feel inferior.
mircea_popescu: no, actually, the problem is she's retarded.
mircea_popescu: and nobody is smack talking the retarded here.
asciilifeform: what the hell is a bitcoinwife? i'm going back to sleep.
mircea_popescu: we go in quite excruciating detail to document how and why they are retarded.
nubbins`: what's a half-tard?
r3wt: wait so who talked shit to the dudes wife here?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nn!
mircea_popescu: he's not married, he's just copumpkin ing all over her.
r3wt: life->end
BitcoinSachs: I feel bad for you guys. It's seriously sad.
nubbins` facepalms
mircea_popescu: BitcoinSachs so listen, if we apologize do you get laid tonight ?
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r3wt: lol, what did you say about his wife?
BitcoinSachs: I don't come into IRC's often because it's usually for the depressed middle aged white man who doesn't get any anymore so they sit in a chat talking to each other. Similar to AOL chats back in the day.
BitcoinSachs: Atleast now you morons don't pretend to be little girls.
mircea_popescu: wait wait.
mircea_popescu: you're not even white ?!
mircea_popescu: nigga gtfo out of here.
r3wt: no need for that mircea
benkay: r3wt's a little boy, BitcoinSachs, mind his delicate mind.
mircea_popescu: what, let the guy have fun.
r3wt: lol, a little boy eh
benkay: (nothing personal r3wt it's for teh lulz)
nubbins`: BitcoinSachs from what i can tell, people were lelling at "the bitcoin wife" because she sits around on her ass in front of a computer all day, thinking that what she says matters
mircea_popescu: r3wt how old are you anyway ? i forget.
r3wt: nice to know you think of people in IRC and picture little boys. seems oddly fitting
nubbins`: i'm not sure how that's so different from doing the same thing on IRC
nubbins`: srsly, think about it
mircea_popescu: aahha zing
r3wt: i don't even know what the fuck you are even talking about half the time, none of you
benkay: BitcoinSachs: tell me this isn't retarded http://imgur.com/elHxylT
mircea_popescu: benkay does the darling know about the little boys ?
benkay: oh goodness i don't really know *who* knows about the little boys at this point
mircea_popescu: i suppose BitcoinSachs should meet BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: is there a litecoinwife?
nubbins`: dogecoinwife
BitcoinSachs: whoever it is that keeps messaging me, I deleted it on accident. this is life.
mod6: hobonicklewife
mircea_popescu: i think there's a dogewife doing doges somewhere on 4chan
mircea_popescu: but it's a little... gross.
benkay: man i am into that
benkay: sweet doge action
nubbins`: always kind of thought that referring to yourself as "the ____ wife" was a bit demeaning
r3wt: when white kids pretend to be black on the internet
mircea_popescu: nubbins` "the slutty wife" ?
benkay: BitcoinSachs you gotta learn how to IRC, man.
BitcoinSachs: I don't give a shit if you guys apologize or not. Just think how you would feel if someone turned an IRC into a mass group bashing of you. I doubt many of you would like that.
nubbins`: the anything wife. the hockey wife
BitcoinSachs: I mean, I get off on your hatred.
BitcoinSachs: but I am a sick bastard like that.
nubbins`: you get off on hatred?
mircea_popescu: BitcoinSachs you have any idea how many have tried ?
nubbins`: you poor, sad man
benkay: BitcoinSachs: i get people all over my shit all the time
asciilifeform: is the implication of $foowife something like 'married to the sea' ?
benkay: in my actual face, though.
r3wt: @Sacks: i agree. you will get no quarter from these other gentlemen though
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform who even knows that the proles mean when they use words.
nubbins`: asciilifeform i think the implication is that they like to think of themselves in terms of their marriage
nubbins`: honestly don't get it, not trolling
mircea_popescu: omfg r3wt this traitor to the holy cause of irc!
nubbins`: "i am first and foremost a person who is married to a man"
mircea_popescu: RUNNING DOG TO THE TWITTERHEADS
r3wt: ^lawl
mircea_popescu: nubbins` can you see "The MP wife" ?
nubbins`: yes, but only because i have a vague understanding of the type of female company you keep
asciilifeform: mpoe-pr ?
mircea_popescu: i've done this plenty of times, "i'm with her". functionally the same thing
r3wt: Reminds me of this cat who used to get on the forums at school and pretend to be a 18 year old filipina chick
mircea_popescu: r3wt and a buncha doods went all crazy "protecting" her ?
nubbins`: i'd probably divorce my wife if she started referring to herself exclusively in terms of me
nubbins`: "yes hello, i'm mrs. jon keefe"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah but you're not a self absorbed asshole quite to the degree we are.
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asciilifeform: cats with irc habits? now definitely time for me to sleep...
r3wt: yeah i got banned from the forum for mocking he/she
nubbins`: hmm, that's fair
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a cat is the equiv of a chick
mircea_popescu: r3wt so now you know what's happening here.
BingoBoingo: Goldman definitely doesn't seem to be what it used to be.
r3wt: no hot ass filipina chick gets on a damn sports forum, there's no way in hell
nubbins`: bitcoinman
benkay: hey BingoBoingo we got someone for you to meet
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nono, the relation between this twerp and gs is about the same as the relation between the btcwife and btc.
nubbins`: ^ heh
mircea_popescu: purely based on stalking. like michael moore and important ppl.
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benkay: !b 2
benkay: goddamnit
nubbins`: gotta be quick if you wanna !b
mircea_popescu: benkay you fail son.
benkay: type slower assholes
mircea_popescu: !b quick or !b broken!
nubbins`: error: quick is not an integer
mircea_popescu: fuck whoever just pmd me named assbot i deleted it
mircea_popescu: such is lyf!
nubbins`: hahah
mod6: haha
benkay: ;;later tell BitcoinSachs where'd you go?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Wait, people can't just adopt titles like "The wife of Bitcoin" or "The Sachs of Bitcoin" and it just automagically becomes true?
mircea_popescu: hey guise, i have an idea!
mircea_popescu: let's all make derpnames like nounbitcoin and bitcoinnoun
r3wt: ;;later tell BitcoinSachs yolo
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: that way the fact we're related to bitcoin will be quite clear to everyone!
BitcoinSachs: I have nothing left to add to this trollbox. You guys all know how pathetic you are. I just wanted to swing by and make sure someone told you. Have a good night.
benkay: coinverb
nubbins`: BitcoinScrotums
r3wt: yolo
mod6: lol
nubbins`: BitcoinSachs: cheers, come back any time
nubbins`: you seem interesting and well-spoken
benkay: if a glacially slow typist.
mircea_popescu: it's so sad the various fiat banks don't hold a trollbox where their top manageemnt could come by
nubbins`: and not like a young man on the verge of tears
BitcoinBordello: Puppies.txt
mircea_popescu: and mock the plebs.
r3wt: you can catch me on the wallstreet journal and time magazine homeboy :D
mircea_popescu: s what i'd have done during occupylolz
nubbins`: eh, occupy was its own trollbox
benkay: it's all the same thing, nubbins`
benkay: the everyone
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yes except the ws top brass didn't participate
benkay: le mob
mircea_popescu: imagine if dimon started mocking the womenz
mircea_popescu: BitcoinSachs so what would we have heard of you for ? do you run a service of any import ? anything ?
nubbins`: "Another reflex is to call a general assembly at the slightest sign of movement, and vote. This is a mistake. The business of voting and deciding a winner, is enough to turn the assembly into a nightmare, into a theater where all the various little pretenders to power confront each other. Here we suffer from the bad example of bourgeois parliaments. An assembly is not a place for decisions but for
nubbins`: palaver, for free speech exercised without a goal. "
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nubbins`: occupy crowd should've listened to the invisible committee ;(
mircea_popescu: nubbins` occupy crowd should have just gone for nudism.
mircea_popescu: pretty much the one way a crowd of nobodies can disrupt modern society.
nubbins`: so, unisex femen for american kids?
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mircea_popescu: it would have swollen in numbers greatly
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nubbins`: not the only thing that would have swollen
mircea_popescu: still, if the people trying to get obama reelected had enough sense to only pay a few girls to get it all started, judghing correctly the white knight idiocy of the frustrated male will do the rest
mircea_popescu: they could have also had the sense to only hire gangbang veterans.
mircea_popescu: a woman can take about a thousand cocks a day, if she's any good at it.
nubbins`: sponsored by astroglide
mircea_popescu: definitely.
mircea_popescu: astroglide could have just used crop treatment helicopters to dump gallons of lube on the crowd
mircea_popescu: now THAT would have been a problem for wall street.
mircea_popescu: o look at that, we lost buttcoinsecks.
ozbot: Deincarnation
nubbins`: but rage against the popular music group tells me that fear is my only god
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the inquiring minds that wish to know : yesterday i had spinach in bechamel with small shrimps,
ozbot: Vietnow- Rage Against the Machine (Lyrics) - YouTube
mircea_popescu: and today i'm baking a pumpkin and will have it with tenderloin!
nubbins`: i didn't know you baked
mircea_popescu: well im baking in the sense i'm running bitbet.
nubbins`: i should start a "bitcoin husband" blog
mircea_popescu: bitcoinwife is doing the work
nubbins`: and just yammer about the meats i grind etc
mircea_popescu: husbandry. meats. grinding.
mircea_popescu: this sounds a little porny dontchathink?
nubbins`: my entire life is a euphemism
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0032 = 0.112 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: nubbins` but srsly, it's not a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: not that many people make moose sausage, and when i mentioned it to chetty she was like... nom.
cazalla: i should make rabbit sausage
mircea_popescu: check it out, "The rest of this article fill look"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you know nick szabo has a w/f issue ?
mircea_popescu: this'd be by far the most important property too look for in that entire "textual analysis" story.
cazalla: have rabbits, have sausage add on thingo for the kitchenaid
mircea_popescu: cazalla can't hurt.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19012 @ 0.00088843 = 16.8908 BTC [-]
nubbins`: actually, my mother called earlier today, she has two moose roasts at the house for me
chetty: oh somebody said moose sausage ...drool
cazalla: what is moose like? never seen it for sale here in aus
mircea_popescu: moose is a very large cow.
nubbins`: very lean
nubbins`: like beef, bit more stringy/gamey
chetty: venison ++
nubbins`: it's ncie
cazalla: rabbit is lean
nubbins`: *nice
nubbins`: interesting fact, you'd die if all you ate was rabbit
cazalla: not true
cazalla: you eat the brains in addition to the meat if it comes to that
nubbins`: sure, yeah
ozbot: Woman Chased By Cute Bunny Rabbits - YouTube
nubbins`: implication was only eating the meat
cazalla: top kek
mircea_popescu: eating the brains of any mammal is dangerous
nubbins`: but after a few days you'd be at a point where you're willing to cut the fat off your own body to eat
mircea_popescu: in that we never know wtf prions they got.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` a few days ? i fasted for days. who cares.
nubbins`: muslims
nubbins`: i guess
cazalla: yes i know, which is why i don't eat them but if you only had rabbit to eat, you'd need to eat the brain and organs to survive otherwise rabbit starvation as nubbins referred to
cazalla: but if you have a balanced diet, you can eat as much rabbit as you want
nubbins`: hm, was mentioning this in -otc because luke was there, but you guys might find this interesting as well
cazalla: every 2nd person tells me about this rabbit starvation bs
nubbins`: so i've been wanting to silkscreen, by hand, a book of text for some time now
nubbins`: nice art paper, hand-printed and bound
nubbins`: one of my friends is greek, and really into religious texts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0032 = 0.64 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: cazalla i think i started it in here. but anyway, obviously, eat some fish oil or w/e, it's resolvable.
nubbins`: so we're going to produce a copy of the gospel according to mark, with scriptio continua greek and modern english on opposing pages
cazalla: mircea_popescu: i hear it from others IRL
nubbins`: calling it "the gospel not according to mark" (because it's not according to him), and omitting the resurrection entirely (as it wasn't in the original)
cazalla: as long as you have a source of fat (and I have chickens for the eggs too), it's not an issue to eat lots of rabbit meat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 704 @ 0.0032 = 2.2528 BTC [-]
nubbins`: exciting stuff, although nerdy enough that i don't think anyone besides the two of us will be interested
mircea_popescu: cazalla butter'd be better tbh. i almost always cook rabbit in butter.
nubbins`: who knows, maybe we can sell a copy to the university library
mircea_popescu: nubbins` fortunately for you, there exists a large contingent of themarkwifes on twitter, reddit etc
mircea_popescu: seeing how tjhey don't understand what anything is, they may just as well buy it.
nubbins`: anyway, i was interested to learn that in the original gospel of mark, jesus dies and that's the end of the fucking book
nubbins`: no resurrection, none of that stuff
mircea_popescu: benkay "There are over 400 collectively worth more than $1.5 billion in operation today and their numbers are increasingly rapidly."
mircea_popescu: there, there's a future.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
nubbins`: "Seismologists have set up instrumentation for when Tux has a tantrum."
nubbins`: lel, tsk tsk
nubbins`: guy's not even that fat
mircea_popescu: he's bad fat.
midnightmagic: cazalla: Just counter with the fact that virtually any rabbit everywhere that doesn't carry a toxic heavy metal load or weird foreign exotic parasites can be eaten.
mircea_popescu: there's this distinction i make between people who are genuinely fat and people who are visibly fastfood fat.
midnightmagic: "Try that with an elk."
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic rabbits carry human able parasites ?
nubbins`: european elk or north american elk?
nubbins`: i.e. moose or wapiti?
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: None that I'm specifically aware of, but my farmer friends tell me it's possible.
chetty: rabbits can carry a bacteria thats kinda like plague
mircea_popescu: "The current center of this activity is Namibia, with offshore reserves estimated at more than 1.5 billion carats." << look at that, almost one diamond for each marrigeable girl!
midnightmagic: nubbins`: N.A.
mircea_popescu: now where to find the 10k dollars to pay for all the rings
nubbins`: midnightmagic: i've eaten those
midnightmagic: nubbins`: Hopefully it was cooked well! :-)
mircea_popescu: chetty pest is universal, much like e colli
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.0031995 = 0.1632 BTC [-]
nubbins`: ground and cooked well-done :D
nubbins`: have also eaten the other type, as we were discussing earlier
nubbins`: moose makes good stew
midnightmagic: nubbins`: Recommend caribou sausage. So.. good..
nubbins`: now caribou, i haven't had
nubbins`: uh, how the fuck is it 3:30am?
nubbins`: i'm going to bed
nubbins`: peace
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 349 @ 0.002 = 0.698 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: benkay o look at that, nautilus actually focuses on mining extinct black smokers
mircea_popescu: that's a brilliant idea.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1300 @ 0.00015004 = 0.1951 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1189999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0655 = 0.4585 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.119495 = 0.239 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.119999 = 0.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00089009 = 6.7647 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: jesus christ man
benkay: mircea_popescu i'm not about to just go work for some crazy exploration company
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 401 @ 0.00321496 = 1.2892 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103999 BTC [+]
benkay: and i at least spend five minutes evaluating markets into which i want to get
benkay: yeah 400 robots under the sea worth a stupid amount of money
benkay: i can defo make some sea robutts
mircea_popescu: lol wut ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00089009 = 10.236 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lmao i just owned @bitcoin. and reddit.
mircea_popescu: @Bitcoin · 48m Mt. Gox @MtGox DELETES everything from their twitter account http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yrqpm/mtgox_deletes_all_tweets_from_their_twitter_feed/
mircea_popescu: How about next time you RT https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/437823752571588608 instead of being an ass. @Bitcoin @MtGox DELETES everything from their twitter account.
mircea_popescu: must suck to exist as a news thing and be constantly hours, days, years late.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0605005 = 0.242 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.103999 = 0.208 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1160009 = 0.464 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00460033 = 0.2208 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 156 @ 0.0032 = 0.4992 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.119997 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 21 @ 0.00499999 = 0.105 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02092199 = 0.1046 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0032 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 9 @ 0.08389498 = 0.7551 BTC [+] {3}
Mats_cd03: nubbins`: I'd buy a copy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00089045 = 6.2332 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 900 @ 0.003292 = 2.9628 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 564.72, Best ask: 565.73, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last trade: 563.28, 24 hour volume: 38005.11725061, 24 hour low: 551.0, 24 hour high: 646.0, 24 hour vwap: 597.953787271
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 167.01, vol: 75617.20805633 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 565.18, vol: 37959.43040405 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 568.6, vol: 18409.36629 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 576.0, vol: 26575.00530557 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 575.0, vol: 303.90218819 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 594.083025, vol: 13228.16500000 | Volume-weighted last average: 394.500944754
mircea_popescu: lawl. just not under 150 yet huh.
BingoBoingo: Well, not under 150 at the moment.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00478995 = 0.3592 BTC [+] {10}
Vexual: thats food for thought
Vexual: if you're bulimic
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00333 = 0.4196 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00333 = 3.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3402 @ 0.00333 = 11.3287 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17061 @ 0.00088899 = 15.1671 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 5000 @ 0.00021 = 1.05 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00088958 = 10.586 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00333 = 0.2398 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00333 = 0.999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.00333 = 0.2298 BTC [+]
Vexual: neobee open?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.0730002 = 0.146 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 229 @ 0.00333287 = 0.7632 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2868 @ 0.00333333 = 9.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.00335631 = 0.2853 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00089121 = 18.0916 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00349 = 0.3316 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 505 @ 0.00349 = 1.7625 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00349 = 0.2024 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3500 @ 0.00349 = 12.215 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 316 @ 0.00349 = 1.1028 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06100005 = 0.183 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.102 = 0.306 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10047 @ 0.00089418 = 8.9838 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00349 = 0.5235 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 163 @ 0.00348899 = 0.5687 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.003489 = 0.3315 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 543 @ 0.003489 = 1.8945 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1199988 = 0.6 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49100012 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2295 @ 0.00349 = 8.0096 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00349 = 0.4886 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 358 @ 0.00349 = 1.2494 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00089122 = 3.654 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00349 = 0.1187 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 270 @ 0.00499999 = 1.35 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 386 @ 0.00349 = 1.3471 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 204 @ 0.0008578 = 0.175 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00349 = 0.3665 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 147 @ 0.00349 = 0.513 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49100012 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 4000 @ 0.00021 = 0.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2500 @ 0.00069999 = 1.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 4000 @ 0.00021 = 0.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 839 @ 0.00349 = 2.9281 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1560 @ 0.00350045 = 5.4607 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.062 = 0.62 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.0035788 = 0.1181 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00350003 = 0.7 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.00350003 = 1.33 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00350005 = 0.35 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.00369634 = 0.1922 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.16230094 = 0.9738 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00384892 = 0.1001 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6501 @ 0.00089497 = 5.8182 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.003849 = 0.3272 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00385234 = 0.262 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7133 @ 0.00089653 = 6.3949 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0038699 = 0.1354 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00386999 = 0.1741 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: morning
jurov: mircea_popescu: when will the mpoe bot go back?
jurov: *come back
jurov: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.00386999 = 0.1896 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 313 @ 0.00386999 = 1.2113 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 142 @ 0.00372943 = 0.5296 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.062 = 0.62 BTC [+]
jurov: oh that. iconsidered writing about, too..but everyone accepts the accounts dysfunctionality as completely normal thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1815 @ 0.00386999 = 7.024 BTC [+] {4}
jurov: should write about such things anyway
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00387 = 0.387 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [-]
ozbot: Bitcoin was written by the retarded, part II pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ozbot: 3,129,573,174.52229 | Next Diff in 731 blocks | Estimated Change: 19.9186% in 4d 1h 29m 47s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49010002 = 0.9802 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00387 = 1.3545 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.00387 = 0.8901 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.11999995 = 2.28 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6160 @ 0.00016388 = 1.0095 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00387 = 0.1935 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 148 @ 0.00460028 = 0.6808 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4033 @ 0.00387 = 15.6077 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 659 @ 0.00387 = 2.5503 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1420 @ 0.00387 = 5.4954 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02060001 = 0.412 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 23 @ 0.02022221 = 0.4651 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 242 @ 0.00389 = 0.9414 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00386999 = 0.3909 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5473 @ 0.0008979 = 4.9142 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.12 = 1.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 590 @ 0.0038 = 2.242 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 261 @ 0.00379 = 0.9892 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: http://imgur.com/a/uL6Lw neobee, the savior of poor cypriots
ozbot: Neo Building - Imgur
jurov: ThickAsThieves: i can, like, really go there and exchange bitcoins or do anything meaningful?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.12 = 1.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00379 = 0.5685 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: jurov i grilled him yest.
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00379046 = 0.2426 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.0038 = 0.3344 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0038 = 1.14 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 268 @ 0.00377 = 1.0104 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 276 @ 0.0038 = 1.0488 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.12 = 1.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 203 @ 0.00379766 = 0.7709 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.003795 = 0.3605 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.1197693 = 1.557 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11631101 = 0.3489 BTC [-]
cazalla: he is NEO, you are like the buzzing of flies to him
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16167 @ 0.00089656 = 14.4947 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.003795 = 0.2694 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 225 @ 0.0038 = 0.855 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.0038589 = 0.3936 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 528 @ 0.00383988 = 2.0275 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00385 = 0.1656 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.0038576 = 0.1736 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.063 = 0.126 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.10101 = 0.202 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.12 = 3 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00089305 = 21.969 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.003859 = 0.3203 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.48203 = 4.8203 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 268 @ 0.00380111 = 1.0187 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 259 @ 0.00386 = 0.9997 BTC [+]
ozbot: Twitter / HistOpinion: US Apr '38: Do you believe, ...
mircea_popescu: what do executives know
mircea_popescu: they're in on it!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00386 = 0.193 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 244 @ 0.00385879 = 0.9415 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: what's an economic life?
ThickAsThieves: and how is "partly" an acceptible answer to a question that contains "mostly"
ThickAsThieves: maybe shoulda just been Yes, Probably, Possibly, No
ThickAsThieves: also, why truck drivers?
ThickAsThieves: they are an awkward representative, being that they are blue collar middle/upper-middle class
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.003865 = 0.1971 BTC [+] {3}
random_cat: ro invest: ponzi of the day?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 113 @ 0.00385535 = 0.4357 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: if you have to ask, then you already know the answer :)
ThickAsThieves: "If you claim that for some reason that it would be better for people to invest in stocks or something else on mpex then doing carefully selection on what investments and where on other plattfors or avoid investing in anything at all if they don't have the correct knoledge. Then you may kindly explain why and how it would be better for the avg investors as im pretty sure most of them
ThickAsThieves: wouldent even have 30 btc so how do you even think they would even be in the target group for your stockexchange, is just redicules."
ThickAsThieves: so much ouch
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 197 @ 0.003865 = 0.7614 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.003865 = 0.6996 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 353 @ 0.003865 = 1.3643 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 260 @ 0.00385 = 1.001 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Neo Bee, I hope you are the AOL of Bitcoin, and not the next iteration of Mtgox." lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00386499 = 0.2203 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11533 @ 0.00089556 = 10.3285 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6267 @ 0.00089798 = 5.6276 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00386498 = 0.2242 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.00386499 = 0.2937 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.482 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 194 @ 0.00386397 = 0.7496 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i have no idea
mircea_popescu: random_cat what's that even ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i'd guess they had easier access to a bunch of truck drivers ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, where's the quote from ? forum ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 42 @ 0.0055 = 0.231 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00382 = 3.82 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00386393 = 0.1005 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 261 @ 0.00382 = 0.997 BTC [-]
random_cat: mircea: apparently the operator is looking for "investors" and posted a bitcointalk thread which got picked up by blockchain.info... see https://ro-invest.com/
random_cat: oic, the bitcointalk thread is actually a link with a referrer code
random_cat: curiouser and curiouser
dexX7: wow 13 % daily, must be legit
random_cat: hell, perhaps it is merely a "send me your coin" site
ThickAsThieves: perhaps?
random_cat shrugs
random_cat: i was generously calling it a ponzi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 129 @ 0.00386398 = 0.4985 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.12 = 3.12 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: random_cat probably ciuciu resurected.
mircea_popescu: so firefox is making a 25 dolla phone, facebook is hoping to spin the watsap disaster into a phone...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1070 @ 0.00380079 = 4.0668 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: what's with people and this obsession for phones
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1205 = 0.6025 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.12673333 = 2.6614 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 308 @ 0.00386398 = 1.1901 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003881 = 0.1941 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: incredible how the bitcoin foundation rats nest sticks together to the very end.
mircea_popescu: "This is actually good news. I applaud Mark and the MtGox team for making the right decision as I had to do the same. Speaking very lengthy to Mark and the team over the weekend, I see good news on the horizon for people who have funds stuck in MtGox (I also have funds in MtGox stuck)" < shrem
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1055 @ 0.003885 = 4.0987 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.16230094 = 0.9738 BTC [-]
Duffer1: farewell fellatio
Duffer1: i hate politics
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.0008968 = 16.0976 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Colorado Girl Scouts Not Allowed To Sell Cookies Outside Pot Shops"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.003885 = 0.272 BTC [+]
Duffer1: they had to come up with some local ordinance since a couple of them got clever and sold out - can't allow little girls hanging around stoners to become popular
mircea_popescu: im guessing the only way to safeguard the nation is banning girlscout cookie sales, girls, scouts and cookies.
Duffer1: sounds reasonable
mircea_popescu: so conn just imploded
jurov: girl schouts must be protected from potheads
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00389 = 0.1945 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: cuz national security or whatever
mircea_popescu: apparently selling couches on credit to people who have horrible credit ratings in the hopes they'll find change in the very couches to pay for the couches didn't work out
mircea_popescu: seems you need rich friends to be able to use couches that way.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 440 @ 0.00389 = 1.7116 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> what's with people and this obsession for phones /// cuz proles don't buy desktops anymore
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.16230094 = 1.623 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "What do u call selfie taken by someone dedicated to overcoming selfhood ?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.1289995 = 0.258 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: i guess reddit discovered Havelock last night...
mircea_popescu: "As we were letting you know back on the 15th of May 2013, two models filled lawsuits against Totem Entertainment and Totem Front Office alleging we were using their images without their authorization.
mircea_popescu: Despite they both signed a contract and have been paid, we've been ordered by a French judge to cease using their images and to terminate any licencing of them. We appealed from that decision but meanwhile we have to comply with the judge's order."
mircea_popescu: fucking french judges.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 31 @ 0.00339999 = 0.1054 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.00084029 = 0.4201 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: "Gmail adds unsubscribe button to rid your inbox of promotions" nice feature
mircea_popescu: http://webmasters.totemcash.com/top100.php << meanwhile check out that sadness. one guy laundering money and $150 a month to make the top 100.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00388 = 0.485 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: what's a virtuagirl?
mircea_popescu: and from the anals of stupid : chick that identifies as "Digital @NBC Owned Television Stations. I tweet media, tech & startups. California transplant, opinions are mine." wants to know if this pic is legit : "So.. I got this WhatsApp message from one of my contacts this morning, real thing? pic.twitter.com/mLAMw9hmUY "
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves prolly some webcam stuff.
mircea_popescu: most porn today is webcams because how the fuck are you going to get paid for a jpeg
ThickAsThieves: seems like a desktop widget of a nudie gif
ThickAsThieves: old school stuff
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00388 = 0.1086 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: wow they charge for that ?
the20year: I heard that Bill gates is buying AOL out and if you have AOL and windows they will pay you $5,000 as long as you forward the message
mircea_popescu: the20year you're now ready to work for NBC as a social media, tech and start-ups specialist.
mircea_popescu: WomenzInTeach!
ThickAsThieves: zuckerberg keynote today maybe he can confirm
mircea_popescu: she should defo ask him.
mircea_popescu: "Mr Mike like totally great stuff can you tell me like is it true about the forwarding ?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.12916363 = 1.4208 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12999 = 0.52 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.08389499 = 0.3356 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00388 = 0.776 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 218 @ 0.00388322 = 0.8465 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1322 @ 0.00016389 = 0.2167 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: "<epscy> maybe the foundation should run an insurance scheme, if they run the satoshi client and follow best practices the foundation would pay out for any losses due to bugs in the software"
Apocalyptic: err... derp of the day ?
BingoBoingo: They day is young, bigger derps are inevitable
mircea_popescu: ahahaha best idea ever.
mircea_popescu: no srsly, they should. make usagi an officer.
Apocalyptic: "<epscy> i'm only half joking" // gets epic
Diablo-D3: whatever happened to that guy anyhow
Diablo-D3: because he seems to have finally left when he realized that he couldnt scam money out of DMC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1822 @ 0.00016389 = 0.2986 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003888 = 0.5832 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i think he finally left once he realised he couldn't shove his guitar or somesuch
ozbot: Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: @MichaelKitces @businessinsider ...
mircea_popescu: curious if famous anal-ist takes the challenge.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 319 @ 0.003888 = 1.2403 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.12987362 = 2.078 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.16230094 = 8.115 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00089761 = 22.9339 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 986 @ 0.00389 = 3.8355 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1030 @ 0.0039 = 4.017 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.12999995 = 2.73 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0039 = 3.9 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: "tslbn" is not a valid command.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1071 @ 0.00382 = 4.0912 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: Time since last block: 16 minutes and 49 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 625 @ 0.00016389 = 0.1024 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00389 = 0.5368 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00389 = 0.3968 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 44 @ 0.06101534 = 2.6847 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.00388931 = 0.1128 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.06035 = 0.3621 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 248 @ 0.00388 = 0.9622 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.104 = 0.312 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 253 @ 0.00382 = 0.9665 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00389 = 0.5835 BTC [+]
davout: ;;later tell benkay interdasted in some delicious janos starker?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.124 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12200001 = 0.488 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00388 = 0.388 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.122 = 0.732 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 130 @ 0.00388 = 0.5044 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0039 = 0.195 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.0038999 = 0.2925 BTC [-]
ozbot: [Cryptostocks]Coinex.io they just removed all traces about there offer at CS
mircea_popescu: check out ThickAsThieves owning the field...
ThickAsThieves: had an mp(oe-pr) up my butt i guess
mircea_popescu: particularly lulzy set of idiots there anyhow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00381428 = 1.335 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: i love how thy then tries to say english is not his first language
ThickAsThieves: you don't learn a second language and spell that terribly
ThickAsThieves: "there's nothing wrong with my education you can't get much higher actually"
ThickAsThieves: "newcummers"
ThickAsThieves: "Paying 30 btc to get access to trading on mpex would be a huge misstake for 99.99% of all people, especially as some got access to that for free in the beginning."
ThickAsThieves: yet he uses bitcoin
mircea_popescu: "my brain doesn't work because english is not my first language"
mircea_popescu: seems legit.
jurov: "These are values uplifted by bandits, not brethren." ooooh so romantic "DDD
mircea_popescu: he really got something in there.
ThickAsThieves: bandit sounded better than burglar :)
mircea_popescu: i can't discern whether shrem defending mtgox on twitter is worse for shrem or worse for mtgox.
ThickAsThieves: tough one
jurov: for both, that's synergy
mircea_popescu: what's the worse situation, for a fraudster to associate with a drug dealer or vice versa ?
ThickAsThieves: when will they catch Ver on something?
mircea_popescu: (i get that neither are very good at their respective thing, but still, discussing in principle)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 680 @ 0.00389678 = 2.6498 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.12899998 = 1.032 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.0039 = 0.2457 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: sooo... egypt cabinet resigns, new military dictatorship brewing ?
mircea_popescu: country comes back to what it was, only with 30 years younger mubarak
mircea_popescu: and i guess no ak47-ing of the anwar sadat this time
Apocalyptic: <ThickAsThieves> when will they catch Ver on something? // I'm waiting for Vessenes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.0039 = 0.2769 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: vessenes seems to have proven slipperyness
mircea_popescu: the teflon don of bitcoin.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.0039 = 0.975 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "I've said it before, but if Barack Obama had been president instead of Ronald Reagan, I'd still be a Soviet Citizen." ~Kasparov
mircea_popescu: it's kind of funny that US govt official policy back in the 80s, such as "government is bad generally and big government worse" etc is today regarded as fringe opinion.
asciilifeform: 'gorbama.'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1280 @ 0.0039 = 4.992 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at least gorby had his fun moments.
mircea_popescu: was it him or yeltsin that actually fired at the duma ?
mircea_popescu: it was yeltsin wasn't it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 94 @ 0.0039 = 0.3666 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: Sounds like a Yeltsin thing to do.
mircea_popescu: got plastered one night, ordered the artillery out the next morning
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.004879 = 0.1366 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol i like that white lada there
mircea_popescu: one thing he did well was the choice of successor.
mircea_popescu: putin is probably the strongest leader russia had since roughly speaking ivan
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 214 @ 0.00394 = 0.8432 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: 'Му sister, do you still recall, как Ельцин бился мордой в пол…' (sf writer V. Pelevin)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 286 @ 0.00394 = 1.1268 BTC [+] {4}
KRS-One: Can't wait for the U.S. to get these
ozbot: » Women vending machine Kirainet.com – A geek in Japan
KRS-One: Pretty good deal for $1 USD
KRS-One: .bait
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.11663173 = 0.4665 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00394375 = 0.4614 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, if you're at all curious, by very far the best contemporary employ of the romanian equivalent of mat is this bunch of kids making a cartoon.
ozbot: RObotzi.S01.Ep.1.Vin - YouTube
mircea_popescu: it is utterly untranslatable, but it is also the only cultural product of contemporary romania that i'd bother mention.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.003948 = 0.2211 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.0039425 = 0.1183 BTC [-] {2}
Duffer1: what does the red one say at 1:05?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's insanely hard to. most romanian native speakers could not write down the average episode even if they were given unlimited replays.
mircea_popescu: you need a fucking postdoc to even understand the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: an indicative example : loud music, the blue guy asks "cine-i la usa" (who's at the door)
Duffer1: i'll stick to rick & morty
mircea_popescu: the other guy pretends to mishear "sa te ghetzalesc in gusa ?" which'd be... you want me to cum down your throat ?
mircea_popescu: ghetz is a translation of hungarian word for cum, transformed into a verb by the romanian method of verbing (utterly foreign to hungarian)
mircea_popescu: and gusa means gullet.
mircea_popescu: s/is a translation/a notation/
asciilifeform: not entirely related, for those concerned with obfuscations, homomorphic trickery, etc. : http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/02/cryptographic-obfuscation-and.html
Duffer1: i wish i could understand ep11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4itGkB168Q
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.021 = 0.126 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.003948 = 0.1579 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 lemme write it down for you then.
Duffer1: thanks ^>^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00487999 = 0.1269 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 494 @ 0.00044494 = 0.2198 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 556 @ 0.00045 = 0.2502 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.13587993 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 476 @ 0.00392936 = 1.8704 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02349997 = 0.1645 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Crypto-Trade | Bitcoin Exchange, Namecoin Exchange, Litecoin Exchange, Primecoin Exchange, BTC Excha
Duffer1: brb learning romanian
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 211 @ 0.0008371 = 0.1766 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 91 @ 0.00392742 = 0.3574 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 677 @ 0.00045 = 0.3047 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: well at leeast you can now sing along :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.12 = 0.96 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.003944 = 0.1183 BTC [+]
Duffer1: sweating onion sauce - that can't be right?
Duffer1: "Well ... I see a creature with mecla the beggar , like pad with wings . Between her tits have hair in their ears and runny die nears surprised sweating onion sauce ."
Duffer1: google translate
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 it's exactly right. tho i'd have said "exhudes onion sauce"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 290 @ 0.003948 = 1.1449 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: fascinating
mircea_popescu: face of a beggar, like a female hygiene product with wings, hair between the tits and whey coming out of ears.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 144 @ 0.003944 = 0.5679 BTC [-]
Duffer1: ohhh pad, i see
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3660 @ 0.00397988 = 14.5664 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12 = 0.48 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 544 @ 0.004282 = 2.3294 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00016388 = 1.6388 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2081 @ 0.00016388 = 0.341 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 356 @ 0.004282 = 1.5244 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.11701501 = 2.3403 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 527 @ 0.00432375 = 2.2786 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 79 @ 0.00433 = 0.3421 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.10101 = 0.202 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11645 = 0.6987 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 87 @ 0.00436448 = 0.3797 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 127 @ 0.00439 = 0.5575 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11438525 = 0.6863 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00439 = 0.4478 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11400001 = 0.684 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00439 = 0.1229 BTC [+]
Jere_Jones: At what point does the price of NEOBEE become silly?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.114 = 1.368 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: silly as in overvalued ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.11096673 = 1.6645 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: !h b.exch
assbot: List of commands:
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
assbot: !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
assbot: !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
thestringpuller: !ticker h b.exch
assbot: [HAVELOCK:B.EXCH] 1D: 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 (111 shares, 18.01540434 BTC), 7D: 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 (661 shares, 107.28092134 BTC), 30D: 0.02010015 / 0.19893903 / 0.24310363 (2586 shares, 514.45633147 BTC)
thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00085493 / 0.00088506 / 0.0008982 (593615 shares, 525.39 BTC), 7D: 0.00083298 / 0.00087017 / 0.0008982 (5020770 shares, 4,368.94 BTC), 30D: 0.00082189 / 0.00088785 / 0.00101414 (27032433 shares, 24,000.87 BTC)
thestringpuller: weird....?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00045 = 0.45 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: !t h neobee
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00310005 / 0.00349514 / 0.00439000 (123218 shares, 430.66362307 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.00337639 / 0.00439000 (171638 shares, 579.51649026 BTC), 30D: 0.00257150 / 0.00317899 / 0.00439000 (308370 shares, 980.30640239 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.11799999 = 0.944 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11799999 = 0.236 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones i dunno, how would you eval it even
thestringpuller: ;;calc 0.000080347 * 5
gribble: 0.000401735
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00437 = 0.354 BTC [-]
Jere_Jones: It's nonvoting so the only thing that matters is future value + future dividends.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.00438 = 0.1183 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones so they got a bunch of advertising in cyprus done. by my count that's worth ~0, and they have a pretty clueless ceo/management team, which is the end of the story.
mircea_popescu: then again... im sure other people differ.
thestringpuller: babysteps
Jere_Jones: I own some and my avg pps is .001125. At what point do I say "Good 'nuff" and bail?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5631 @ 0.00089454 = 5.0372 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: what are they even making money from if they don't charge people to accept payments on their network...
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones did they ever publish a statement ?
jurov: they don't seem to have any product. to get merchants onboard, you need some pos terminal
mircea_popescu: balancesheet, cash flow, etc ?
Jere_Jones: No. Just projections.
thestringpuller: lol like tru payment processor
Jere_Jones: I don't expect one until the end of the quarter.
mircea_popescu: how long have they been trading ?
Jere_Jones: neobee? or in general?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00438 = 0.876 BTC [+]
Jere_Jones: Duh. "They", not "you"
mircea_popescu: neobee what do you mean in general.
mircea_popescu: yeah lol.
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Jere_Jones: Since October
mircea_popescu: i guess they only missed one if they do quarterlies then
mircea_popescu: so bail once they miss the 2nd
Jere_Jones: The "IPVO" started in october. It ended yesterday.
thestringpuller: are options not moving this month? or is all exposure underwritten/short from users -> mpoebot?
mircea_popescu: not like you'll have any problem unloading to the reddit crowd anyway
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller we're out of signal atm.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 233 @ 0.00438 = 1.0205 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: like bitcoin charts has been unreachable for some time?
thestringpuller: or some other signal...?
ThickAsThieves: neo does a hold a lot of coin last i knew
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1230 @ 0.00438376 = 5.392 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 27 @ 0.0055 = 0.1485 BTC
ThickAsThieves: another factor to consider
ThickAsThieves: ipo raised like 9500btc or sumth
ThickAsThieves: obviously some ha sbeen spent
ThickAsThieves: no idea at what price or how much though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1105001 = 0.442 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves kinda why statements are helpful.
mircea_popescu: would resolve Jere_Jones question anyway.
thestringpuller: whoa, so gox indirectly is fucking up options quoting?
thestringpuller: well from bot
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00089231 = 8.6108 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: what about settling outstanding options? that will still be resuolved with 24h,prc no?
thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 350.98
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves kinda why statements are helpful. /// can't argue with that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7649 @ 0.00089156 = 6.8195 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00444951 = 0.4672 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.00446999 = 0.3174 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00470024 = 0.2256 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 227 @ 0.00446999 = 1.0147 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 252 @ 0.00447415 = 1.1275 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 323 @ 0.0045 = 1.4535 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 207 @ 0.0045 = 0.9315 BTC [+] {2}
Diablo-D3: step one: ignore all criticism
davout_: mircea_popescu i lol'd at your last article
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00479 = 0.1485 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: uh oh they mentioned Havelock
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 120 @ 0.16230094 = 19.4761 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: wonder if it'll get picked up by bigger media
BingoBoingo: Doubt it, this isn't OpenBSD or anything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00479 = 0.2395 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 229 @ 0.00479785 = 1.0987 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00488 = 0.488 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i see coindesk assumed the market cap on havelock was actually that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00488 = 0.2147 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 340 @ 0.00488 = 1.6592 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.00488751 = 0.65 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.17097594 BTC to 2`702 shares, 80347 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00488224 = 1.9529 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00488 = 0.4929 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 1.76010680 BTC to 9`595 shares, 18344 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 112 @ 0.05943381 = 6.6566 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.0049 = 0.5439 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00088851 = 19.3695 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.004892 = 0.6115 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00489514 = 0.4748 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: random as shit question. does romania have skateboarding?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.000155 = 0.465 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i guess it must.
thestringpuller: like are there good skaters out there?
mircea_popescu: i have no idea, i'm kinda interested in women only in that age range.
thestringpuller: lol i have a youtube video for you
thestringpuller: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhQmW21AJHI - bad footage but of a chick skating
thestringpuller: might not be completely your type tho :P (not super model enuff)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00487975 = 0.1122 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00489 = 0.1516 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: she's ok i guess.
Duffer1: taking your board to the MPsummit stringpuller? :D
mircea_popescu: so apparently apple just got owned to shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.05821334 = 0.8732 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 136 @ 0.00489073 = 0.6651 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "This means theoretically that if you’ve been using the flawed iOS or OS X systems since then, a hacker on your shared network could have captured all your data that should have been SSL- or TSL-encrypted for the past 18 months."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you seen the shit ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: posted it here several days ago
asciilifeform: assumed that nobody gave a shit
mircea_popescu: i guess i didn't realise at the time just how deep it goes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000155 = 0.155 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 234 @ 0.00489999 = 1.1466 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.104 = 0.936 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: just went "derp, apple sucks"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.48303333 = 1.4491 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 410 @ 0.00489779 = 2.0081 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15620 @ 0.00088688 = 13.8531 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2280 @ 0.00088651 = 2.0212 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "goto fail;" srsly ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.0049 = 1.715 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: a very convenient 'bug.'
asciilifeform: the days of ham-handed 'nsakey' are long gone.
mircea_popescu: check out nigeria.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.004949 = 2.4745 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.0049499 = 0.4108 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00494999 = 0.2326 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 203 @ 0.00494999 = 1.0048 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4420 @ 0.00088651 = 3.9184 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.005 = 0.135 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1343 @ 0.0001555 = 0.2088 BTC [+]
deadweasel: nigeria rec'd 20bn ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00499986 = 0.585 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.485 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0049989 = 0.4999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1000 @ 0.00010091 = 0.1009 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.058 = 0.348 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.06049899 = 0.726 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 305 @ 0.0049991 = 1.5247 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: deadweasel i saw 6
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0606 = 0.2424 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00499907 = 0.3349 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: pankkake lol waitwat ?
pankkake: indeed
ThickAsThieves: i'm jealous
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 159 @ 0.0049197 = 0.7822 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [+] {2}
jborkl: mircea_pankkake?
mircea_popescu: who's crumbs anyway ?
mircea_popescu: is this some guy's sock trying to pretend he's me or is it some random nut trying to say i'm everybody
jborkl: forum account that got perma banned
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 450 @ 0.00478 = 2.151 BTC [-] {4}
Duffer1: pretty funny troll
Duffer1: the ActM goatse was perfect
mircea_popescu: eccentric huh ?
mircea_popescu: hey guise you really think i'm eccentric psychotic ?
ThickAsThieves: crumbs uses another name now
mircea_popescu: "The proof of this has been sent to the person who paid for my services which cannot and will not be shown on here, due to the backlash this will bring including personal information for him and other users who have trusted him."
ThickAsThieves: i think i sorted it but i forgot
mircea_popescu: iiiinteresting
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00478106 = 0.3538 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9156 @ 0.00088648 = 8.1166 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00509982 = 0.153 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "Due to the real identity of these troll accounts belonging to Mircea Popescu and how close he believes himself to be to the higher echelons of Bitcoin including the Mods/Admins of this forum, i don't believe this post to last long."
Bones: btctalk drama is best drama
mircea_popescu: who am i close to, thermos ? bear ?
mircea_popescu: who is even a mod there these days ?
mircea_popescu: o wait, davout!
ThickAsThieves: crumbs is basically who almost knows what he's talking about but usually takes the trolling just ove rthe edge
ThickAsThieves: a poster*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 21 @ 0.00509999 = 0.1071 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves meanwhile i got the list.
ThickAsThieves: bitcoinnewsfeed is velacreations i think
ThickAsThieves: ffsixtynine uses socks to be somewhat pumpy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 21 @ 0.0049989 = 0.105 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: " The Fed isn't printing."
mircea_popescu: gotta love twitter folk.
Duffer1: eoe
Duffer1: wow even
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.0049989 = 0.9598 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.0051 = 0.1275 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: isn't it fucking pathetic ? i mean it's obv the girls aren't there cause of the guy.
mircea_popescu: they're not even looking at him, more liek trying to get in the shot.
ThickAsThieves: i bet he's into some weird shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 525 @ 0.00499897 = 2.6245 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 272 @ 0.00499893 = 1.3597 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves maybe he's crumbs.
ThickAsThieves: here's my ignore list if anyone wants http://dpaste.com/1654085/
Duffer1: can i be Crumbs?
ThickAsThieves: not all scammers
Duffer1: dibs
mircea_popescu: i recently emptied mine. i feel all nude now
ThickAsThieves: cuz i also ignore total idiots
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves wait, vampire is on irc ?!
ThickAsThieves: tahts the forum
Jere_Jones: Hmmm... the first name on your list is the dude that sold me my first bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: a, forum nm.
mircea_popescu: listen, with the new 0day scammer registration programme, does ignoring even serve any purpose anymore ?
mircea_popescu: lol ignored aussie_striker
ThickAsThieves: i think it does serve purpose cuz now accounts with more than 1 coin go up in scammer value
ThickAsThieves: so there will be persistence
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00499889 = 0.22 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: all these names i don't know
ThickAsThieves: and there is def evidence of 2+coin accounts being sold
mircea_popescu: SolarWindMiningCompany << wait aren't these those idiots with the insane ipo plan ?
ThickAsThieves: my gavel is swift and lacks memory
ThickAsThieves: sometimes
mircea_popescu: nice list of people who LIVE for bitcoin, had you paid attention!!1
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 251 @ 0.00484762 = 1.2168 BTC [-] {3}
Duffer1: wait so "Prism" is claiming Crumbs is MP/Pankkake and MPOE-PR and that he was hired to find out this information by a high value neobee holder
mircea_popescu: "The information & proof has now all been given to the buyer to do with as they please (legal action) - (see below), now with their consent I have the approval to post the identity of this Troll."
mircea_popescu: wait wait... i'm getting sued ?
mircea_popescu: pankkake what have you got me mixed up in!
Duffer1: this is a bizarre troll, i wonder what the endgame is
Duffer1: er endgame = punchline
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.0049989 = 0.3799 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i am but a simple country boy, some might say a cock-eyed optimist, who got mixed up in a deadly game of world diplomacy and international intrigue!
Duffer1: bitcointalk drama is best drama
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 554.46, Best ask: 554.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 554.99, 24 hour volume: 45677.47870327, 24 hour low: 514.02, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 579.195068284
mircea_popescu: "mp is ousted as pankkake/crumbs. bitcoin plunges"
BingoBoingo: It wouldn't be the first time.
mircea_popescu: actually you're right, the pankkake theory is really...
mircea_popescu: wait. usagi invented that neh ?
mircea_popescu: or was usagi before p's time
mircea_popescu: who was usagi threatening to sue because it's me ?
BingoBoingo: Usagi I think was largely pre-pankkake
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.0049989 = 0.12 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: coincidence!?
BingoBoingo: Maybe Deprived or repentance?
mircea_popescu: repentance ? hmmm
jborkl: deprived
mircea_popescu: cause he had irc logs as evidence!
mircea_popescu: of me hiring whoever to mess up his biz
ThickAsThieves: fukn hideous
ThickAsThieves: "Guncoin claims to exist out of a real public need. In the United States it is very difficult to find conventional payment processors willing to serve online firearm dealers. When a third party payment processor is willing to process a transaction it involves an incredibly high fee."
ThickAsThieves: how cna they print that shit
pankkake: yes, I almost invested in usagi stuff but people said noooooooooooooo and then there was no usagi
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is actually true.
pankkake: also, Prism is probably crumbs
ThickAsThieves: how does guncoin solve anything?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00088473 = 12.3862 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: never you mind that.
ThickAsThieves: by being bitcoin in disguise?
mircea_popescu: the true part is that gun dealers are being squeezed by obama's goons exactly on the pp side.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00088342 = 4.6821 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
pankkake: guncoin is worse, because it says "i trade guns"
pankkake: whereas bitcoin you can say it was only for pot
mircea_popescu: hence "Crackpot"
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin mag needs an editor with a strong pimp hand
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00499896 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is a whole u.s. subculture of astoundingly illiterate folks who will fall for this
asciilifeform: the same ones who came up in your research of 'sovereign citizen' crapola
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 175 @ 0.0049987 = 0.8748 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: well... the more idiots are being drawn away from bitcoin, the better.
mircea_popescu: people going about "adoption" keep forgetting we don't want a large number of idiots,
mircea_popescu: we want a high avg iq more than that
ThickAsThieves: yeha if we spend all the idiots now, what will the smarties pillage?
kakobrekla: did you make the chart Bugpowder?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.004999 = 1.8996 BTC [+] {3}
Bugpowder: kakobrekla: not yet. Fucking swamped with real work
mircea_popescu: I offer 1M Nxt ? what's that worth ?
ThickAsThieves: something
ThickAsThieves: what's wrong with these people
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.004999 = 4.999 BTC [+] {2}
Bugpowder: Need to figure out a better JSON parser for Matlab first.
ThickAsThieves: pankkake doesnt even troll
Bones: that's mp's serious account
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 205 @ 0.0049951 = 1.024 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: how on earth are people still caring about ActM
ThickAsThieves: does it pay divs or something?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yes. 1mn nexts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.0055 = 0.22 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00499502 = 2.4975 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: still not trading so no
pankkake: also crypto-trade is down
Duffer1: ya lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 128 @ 0.00499 = 0.6387 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: "So above you see pankkake continue to smear the company ActiveMining (by calling it an investment scam, associating it with the known 'LabCoin scam', saying the CEO is facing jail and accusing me of being a scammer (!)) after Ken publicly refused to pay pankkake's blackmail money demand."
ThickAsThieves: they were hacked right? C-T
Duffer1: of course
ThickAsThieves: they say they lost $30k and will cover it
mircea_popescu: these people. i wonder if there's anyone but the scammers left on that forum
mircea_popescu: o look, they could have got a mpex seat
ThickAsThieves: they are on sale havent you heard?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00499 = 0.3094 BTC [-] {3}
pankkake: I forced myself to log out and missed all the good things!
ThickAsThieves: like $16500
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 534.0, Best ask: 535.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 535.0, 24 hour volume: 47401.00643850, 24 hour low: 514.02, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 577.133067696
mircea_popescu: yeah not bad.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 310 @ 0.00499 = 1.5469 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: MPOE-PR: "i just... i can't even... i wasn't going to say anything tonight, but this forum has decreased in intelligence and self-awareness since last fall at least three fold"
mircea_popescu: "sometimes i imagine i'm in a floating third world bazaar full of people trying to sell socks and pick pockets and not much else"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05800016 = 0.174 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.004995 = 1.998 BTC [+]
pankkake: there has been like three scams in a week
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one of the great mysteries that my puny brain is powerless to digest is why you & mpoepr haven't decamped and left that forum to the radioactive cockroaches and rats
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.058 = 0.232 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4000 @ 0.00499909 = 19.9964 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform she does what i say and i never said she should leave.
mircea_popescu: call it inertia i guess
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i meant you in the sense of your firm, naturally
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1301 @ 0.005 = 6.505 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: uh howssat ?
asciilifeform: just, how low does the signal to noise ratio need to go
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.107 = 0.321 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 470 @ 0.00517446 = 2.432 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i never measure it tho. what do i care ?
mircea_popescu: she writes well, that's good enough.
asciilifeform: the swine appear to be indifferent to the pearls, though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00464002 = 0.1485 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: i think some people here actually found this place because they ran over something she said.
mircea_popescu: they're doing textual analysis on me, coming to th conclusion i'm nick szabo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00088319 = 9.4501 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: i wonder how many other people are szabo now.
asciilifeform: who, i wonder, am i
mircea_popescu: you are crumbs.
asciilifeform: mebbe i'm an unknown usenet spammer from 1994.
mircea_popescu: your girl is pankkake.
mircea_popescu: except on weekends. then she's thestringpuller
asciilifeform: textual analysis, wonderful thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.005198 = 0.499 BTC [-]
jurov: pity we can't use graphology
pankkake: crumbs was accused of being Eduardo de Castro, CEO of Hashfast
pankkake: I think I was paid by Hashfast too
asciilifeform: phrenology,
mircea_popescu: derpology ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.481 = 2.405 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: <asciilifeform> who, i wonder, am i /// lol
mircea_popescu: herpetology was taken
diametric: so pankkake is controlled by mircea_popescu
diametric: many lols.
ThickAsThieves: i read a book on graphology once, pretty much says, people who write crazy, are mor elikely to be crazy
mircea_popescu: oops sorry guys i accidentally posted as diametric
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0051959 = 1.0392 BTC [-]
pankkake: I write crazy
diametric: its popescu's all the way down
pankkake: can't even follow lines
ThickAsThieves: broken cursive seemed to be a big indicator, if i recall
pankkake: my signature is never the same
kakobrekla: i dont write crazy but i am
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna see my handwriting /
BingoBoingo: Why not?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00519608 = 0.3533 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: its prolly like doctors
ThickAsThieves: i'm betting it leans slightly to the left
mircea_popescu: telling natl liberal party to get stuffed.
mircea_popescu: it's a historical document of sorts!
ThickAsThieves: your sig looks a lot like mine
mircea_popescu: you're pankkake
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.0051985 = 1.0917 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: pretty normal handwriting
ThickAsThieves: not crazy
ThickAsThieves: you may put on your robe
mircea_popescu: preparetohearfrommyelawyer
mircea_popescu: fortheseslanders
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 454 @ 0.00519809 = 2.3599 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is that you ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's the good king vlad.
mircea_popescu: nice penmanship
mircea_popescu: anyway, anyone can transcribe my shit ?
mircea_popescu: first complete version gets 1k ATC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 202 @ 0.0051985 = 1.0501 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: seems like there was a time when anyone with something to write had decent penmanship.
devthedev: What do you need mircea_popescu?
mircea_popescu: devthedev you mean generally or what ?
devthedev: What do you need transcribed :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00519133 = 0.3219 BTC [-] {3}
Apocalyptic: guys, and particularly asciilifeform, what hardware would you recommend to generate random bytes ?
mircea_popescu: cardano :D
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: how many do you need? and for what use ?
Jere_Jones: What's the budget and timeline?
ThickAsThieves: place cat on keyboard for random bytes
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, just 8 bytes, I need the best entropy i can reallistically get
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: more importantly, do you need random bytes that others do not have a copy of?
asciilifeform: for 8 bytes, toss a coin manually and apply von neumann's debiasing algo.
Apocalyptic: do I just roll dice ?
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic 1F 22 5A 94 D5 09 40 8B
mircea_popescu: there you go.
asciilifeform: depending on how crufty your coin is, you may have to throw it several hundred times.
Apocalyptic: do you need random bytes that others do not have a copy of? // now -assets has them, seems about right
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 188 @ 0.0051892 = 0.9756 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic you know the von neumann coin debias algo ?
mircea_popescu: so then that
Apocalyptic: I was tempted to dd if=/dev/random bs=8 count=1 > secret
Apocalyptic: then i don't trust my hd RNG very much
mircea_popescu: prolly work.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic the problem of rng quality only appears on large datasets.
mircea_popescu: for 8 bytes nobody can say anything
mircea_popescu: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF is perfectly random
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 457 @ 0.00518248 = 2.3684 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0597 = 0.1791 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: the probability of others guessing that is quite high though
Apocalyptic: but I know what you mean
ThickAsThieves: i'd never have guessed it
mircea_popescu: just impossible to verify entropy quality on tiny samples.
Apocalyptic: generally any statistical analysis is irrelevant on tiny samples
mircea_popescu: and yes, it SEEMS it'd have been easy.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00509999 = 0.5355 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: but only in retrospect.
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: if you're a decent player of 'von neumann's mindreader' game, you can safely use your own fingers.
mircea_popescu: there's a slight difference between stat analysis and entropy measuring, but anyway
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, will look into that, thanks
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, yeah, was just pointing another fact
ThickAsThieves: i love that thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0051 = 0.408 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i got into a zone where i was doing well by not thinking, but couldnt keep it up
mircea_popescu: look at that, Jere_Jones is nao rich, over 51!
ThickAsThieves: thats what she saud
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.0050038 = 0.2602 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic actually, probably great way to get random data : select random day from log, select random portion of text, hash it.
mircea_popescu: as anyone reading can attest, this chat is the randomest thing on the planet.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.481 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.005 = 0.555 BTC [-] {4}
Jere_Jones: Rich? Eh. The depth on Havelock is so thin that I'd wipe out the entire orderbook down to 1 satoshi. So it isn't like I can actually cash out.
mircea_popescu: $depth meh nm
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.005 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 882 @ 0.0048611 = 4.2875 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00088262 = 7.8994 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: holy shit i totally forgot nubbins!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00470466 = 0.5551 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: did you leave him in a trunk or something?
Vexual: tied in the celar
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins`omfg you're right!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
devthedev: Hey BingoBoingo
devthedev: Anyone think Gox will ever resume BTC withdraws? :P
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no i just went ballistic over idiot wannabes stealing shit totally forgetting to mention i got it from him
mircea_popescu: which i guess is ironic
Vexual: everyone was poliely ignoring that mp
mircea_popescu: Vexual you're too kind lol
mircea_popescu: devthedev i think there's some bets about it
mircea_popescu: nubsy should start that sausage blog already so i can give him a link
ThickAsThieves: all you have to do is auto-include your "it all started on IRC, like all good things these days" line before you speka in public
ThickAsThieves badoom tsss
mircea_popescu: i no speka
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 103 @ 0.00479998 = 0.4944 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: the badoom tss was for 'give him a link'\
mircea_popescu: who broke the pipes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 190 @ 0.00480299 = 0.9126 BTC [+] {3}
devthedev: I guess we'll see
Vexual: mp is probably nubbins anyways
pankkake: the proof is in the beard
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00498999 = 0.1647 BTC [+] {3}
pankkake: crumbs sent me a PM quoting Prism. he's definitively Prism
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 188 @ 0.00498999 = 0.9381 BTC [+] {4}
Duffer1: nice try crumbs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.129498 = 0.259 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC
mircea_popescu: no, his ass is too big.
Vexual: neo-bee.com has an image of a man with a rope standing next to a chair in the middle of a room
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2460 @ 0.0001555 = 0.3825 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: these self improvement idjits are ridiculous by now. "You want to do something that you enjoy every day and then the outcome doesn't matter."
mircea_popescu: derp, jacking off meets those criteria.
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones the well known headmash on kbd gif
mircea_popescu: doesn't it load ?
BingoBoingo: Maybe the point is that jacking of meets those criteria exactly
Jere_Jones: I only saw the final frame
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.0606 = 1.4544 BTC [+]
Jere_Jones: Reloading the page and seeing from the beginning makes more sense.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo indeed.
Duffer1: oh i see, it doesn't replay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12947591 = 0.259 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00497777 = 0.2489 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 667 @ 0.00492657 = 3.286 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12947691 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.0048 = 0.2064 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: >Upcoming Products
kakobrekla: Time locked Wallets:
kakobrekla: Experience the investment potential of Bitcoin with none of the risk, agree to purchase a value of bitcoins over a pre-selected period of time and get either your original investment back or a prioritised share of the gains.
kakobrekla: how is it no risk
kakobrekla: what if btc plummets to shit
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla again this ghostship of an idea ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 352 @ 0.0048 = 1.6896 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: it keeps coming back.
kakobrekla: was it here before?
Duffer1: pankkake don't leave us :*(
kakobrekla: i shathap then
ThickAsThieves: i guess neo condoms DO exist! http://i.imgur.com/atiOW5D.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00498146 = 1.8382 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla there was a business cca 2012, different guy
mircea_popescu: it never went anywhere
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves you dont have a problem with so much lulzy claims ?
kakobrekla: you might as well run PPT i guess?
ThickAsThieves: which lulzy claims?
kakobrekla: all of them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 549 @ 0.00498452 = 2.7365 BTC [+] {5}
jurov: pirate did not invest in real estate development
kakobrekla: his face is real estate
ThickAsThieves: i missed something kako
mircea_popescu: my understanding was that ThickAsThieves is not actually related to neobee
kakobrekla: as much as goat is not related to pirate
ThickAsThieves: i dont run it or anything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 382 @ 0.00488831 = 1.8673 BTC [-] {4}
ThickAsThieves: i make my criticisms known to them when i have them
mircea_popescu: do you run the havelock asset ?
pankkake: Duffer1: I actually force myself to log out so I can do better things now
ThickAsThieves: sometimes they listen
mircea_popescu: well then.
pankkake: I liked the neo payement receipt
ThickAsThieves: i mean run Neo
ThickAsThieves: i am pankkake, not a CEO
Vexual: did your cousins fit out the shop tat?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00497924 = 0.4929 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: i helped with the new website, though it wasn't rendered entirely to spec
mircea_popescu: so then basically you run the havelock asset but have no say in anything
ThickAsThieves: but that was just cuz i felt like it
mircea_popescu: what's going on in your head ?
mircea_popescu: suppose they split. what do you do then, apologize ?
Vexual: did you spec the suicide imagery?
mircea_popescu: yes. split.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.0046401 = 0.2181 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 724 @ 0.00499999 = 3.62 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12949998 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: suppose asciilifeform splits
ThickAsThieves: then what do you do
Apocalyptic: "<I_told_you_so> US Exchange Regulators needs to step in and Audit Mt.Gox finances to protect the US investors." seriously nao
ThickAsThieves: suppose erik scams all his shareholders what do you do?
mircea_popescu: i distribute ~1.0 par on the shares and dissolve s.nsa
mircea_popescu: i force him not to
mircea_popescu: and people get ~1.0 par on their shares.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 468 @ 0.00499997 = 2.34 BTC [-] {5}
ThickAsThieves: 1.0 par? you mena you refund the ipo price?
mircea_popescu: not very good examples, there.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves roughly. have you seen the s.nsa report ?
ThickAsThieves: not lately
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 749 @ 0.00499998 = 3.745 BTC [+] {4}
ThickAsThieves: how does Neo "split"?
mircea_popescu: S.NSA has a total of 4`737`075 authorised shares outstanding. The total assets per share implied value is thus 0.00009980 BTC. The cash+tangible assets per share implied value is thus 0.00009828 BTC.
mircea_popescu: so it's about 0.9828 par atm.
ThickAsThieves: burn down the buildings and vanish?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves just goes "havelock ? shares ? wat ?"
mircea_popescu: "we never heard of any of this sorry"
ThickAsThieves: they are profit-shares firstly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.005 = 0.42 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: i have a contract with Neo
mircea_popescu: suppose they get bought out.
mircea_popescu: is this published anywhere ?
ThickAsThieves: no it's private
mircea_popescu: which means if anything goes south you will be sue-able.
mircea_popescu: at the very least as about five different torts.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.005 = 0.375 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i am only an administrator for them
mircea_popescu: if the deal goes south in any way your secret contract fails to cover for it any havelock owner can sue you for breach of fiduciary duty
mircea_popescu: as they trusted you and your secret contract to protect their legitimate interest in the matter.
mircea_popescu: and this is merely scratching the surface.
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5343174#msg5343174 some serious conspiracy stuff going on! (too bad I actually bought the captchas for the other guy, not the reverse)
kakobrekla: i guess my question is at what point would you say "thats too much of a scam for me to administer". would you take over a PPT?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.0051 = 0.3672 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Now, if you look at his Web of Trust ratings, you'll see that pankkake has a rating from user abc4btc with the note
mircea_popescu: "small captcha-for-btc transaction". Two months later MP gave him a rating as a "python dev". MP also has a rating from
mircea_popescu: pankkake for "MPEx and other stuff" (#32218)."
ThickAsThieves: i dont take over things
mircea_popescu: definitely!
mircea_popescu: we're in the wot!
ThickAsThieves: and Neo is not a scam
ThickAsThieves: how the hell can you still be riding that
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if they get no roi on their advertising campaign what happens ?
kakobrekla: i asked you at what point, obviously you think its all good or else you wouldnt be doing the administration or does it not matter to you ?
ThickAsThieves: of course it matters to me
mircea_popescu: pankkake the lulzy part is the guy has a dota avatar. wtf one could like dota and be that silly.
ThickAsThieves: you dont see a difference between the things my name is on and everyone else's yet?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 282 @ 0.00509997 = 1.4382 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: you dont understand that whatever you contract says you are associated with them in public
pankkake: if only they spent that energy on researching scammers
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves seems to me you've put yourself in a rather untenable position there, if that's what you're asking.
Duffer1: ken having his head so far up his own ass he doesn't know up from down isn't the problem it's those terrible trolls pankkake and crumbs, payed by MP to slander ActM
Jere_Jones: Is that why you dropped AM1 and AM100?
pankkake: oh, dota as day of the dentacle. not the other gayme
mircea_popescu: pankkake yup
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 528 @ 0.00509999 = 2.6928 BTC [+] {5}
davout: pankkake: best game evar
mircea_popescu: it was pretty fun yeah.
pankkake: I have played other lucasarts games but not this one :(
mircea_popescu: very clever
mircea_popescu: o get it, definitely.
mircea_popescu: great humour.
mircea_popescu: that and planescape:torment prolly the best writing in game history.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 515 @ 0.00500312 = 2.5766 BTC [-] {8}
pankkake: the only one I managed to finish was Full Throttle
ThickAsThieves: <Jere_Jones> Is that why you dropped AM1 and AM100? /// not specifically, but AM's ways didn't give me much reason to stay
ThickAsThieves: are transfer agents sued in such examples?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.005 = 0.4 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: there's about five yards worth of caselaw dealing with undisclosed contracts/relationships and what implications these have.
mircea_popescu: but as a rule of thumb, it opens up the agent to all sorts of liabilities.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1036 @ 0.00499988 = 5.1799 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: anyway, as to the direct question, yes.
ThickAsThieves: anything linkable?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/our-emperor-deliver-us/ << this is an instructive example, which was litigated in spite of the thing being quite public, and on a hell of a technicality.
jurov: I wonder why the havelock IPO is not mentioned on neo-bee.com ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.004991 = 0.2995 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: now imagine that instead of the two parties, there was a 3rd agent involved on one side.
jurov: why are they afraid to publicly link themselves to it?
BingoBoingo: The predictive power of kakobrekla's soul slander has lead me to submit a bitbet for consideration.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.00086361 = 0.8636 BTC [+] {6}
Vexual: lmb-havelock lmb-neo
asciilifeform: suppose $fill-in-the-blank splits << suppose we're all hanged tomorrow.
asciilifeform: suppose nuclear war.
ThickAsThieves: jurov neo is owned by LMB, which has a wbesite and mentiones shares
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1358 @ 0.00086495 = 1.1746 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.481 = 2.405 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda different things.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.004991 = 0.9982 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: no hits for havelock or shares on the main page ?
asciilifeform: at any rate, i do assume that mpex users have brains and that the amount of s.nsa operations presently resting on my earthy carcass is priced into the shares.
asciilifeform: *earthly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1027 @ 0.00082899 = 0.8514 BTC [-] {10}
ThickAsThieves: shares should hit
ThickAsThieves: it's in the main nav
mircea_popescu: i guess maybe i'm getting a broken version
asciilifeform: once the complete blueprints for the current product are published, the carcass becomes less essential. and this too should end up priced in.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 33890 @ 0.00014522 = 4.9215 BTC [-] {24}
ThickAsThieves: neo does not have any reason to promote buying shares anymore anyway
mircea_popescu: $vwap s.nsa
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.NSA 1 day: average: 0.00021 high: 0.00021 low: 0.00021 volume: 13000 btc: 2.73 7 day: average: 0.00020673 high: 0.00021 low: 0.0002 volume: 21400 btc: 4.424 30 day: average: 0.00014043 high: 0.00021 low: 0.000105 volume: 123750 btc: 17.378382
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform atm trading at like 220% book. i guess you're well regarded.
asciilifeform: wish i knew why
mircea_popescu: not much volume at all tho
mike_c: meh, only if the current product is the last product. don't go dying yet ascii.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform probably the number guesser thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00014 = 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00013999 = 0.42 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: tat do you hold shares in lmb?
ThickAsThieves: mp you got pm's btw
kakobrekla: www.lmb-holdings.com/public_ledger/
kakobrekla: this is taken from havelock or what is this
ThickAsThieves: it's list of direct holders
Vexual: i think thats the neo ipo
kakobrekla: these shares are not trading?
Vexual: they don't become shareholders of lmb holdings do they?
mircea_popescu: bizarre arrangement.
asciilifeform: people who liked the numbers widget should respect the tomb of von neumann, not me.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06 = 0.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00498899 = 0.4989 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00493079 = 0.1381 BTC [-] {2}
benkay`: davout i would indeed enjoy those tunes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] CAPITULATION
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00088234 = 13.0145 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 122 @ 0.00480737 = 0.5865 BTC [-] {3}
benkay`: wtf is this: <assbot> [MPEX] [S.NSA] CAPITULATION
kakobrekla: meh im trolln
mircea_popescu: dun do that jeeze
benkay`: phoo
asciilifeform: do i get tried at nuremberg?
asciilifeform: or is it conditional capitulation
asciilifeform: 'inquiring minds want to know'
kakobrekla: it was a reply to the humble last line from ascii before that
kakobrekla: is all
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0048197 = 0.482 BTC [+] {3}
benkay`: fuckin with production hardware again kakobrekla
benkay`: givin me the heebie jeebies
kakobrekla: cmon i always bust balls.
jurov: we should find him a whore
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00475002 = 0.1663 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: with balls?
jurov: not enough sex -> molests assbot
mircea_popescu: sure. a ballwhore.
kakobrekla: ballwhore, sounds like karpeles.
mircea_popescu: would you do karpeles kakobrekla ?
kakobrekla: i dont think hes got enouff btc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.00475003 = 0.7363 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: no no, you're payin'. he's got the tits.
kakobrekla: i can grow my own tits.
mircea_popescu: what, slovenia has a nuclear plant now ?
kakobrekla: man tits.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 501 @ 0.000475 = 0.238 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00476236 = 0.3858 BTC [+] {5}
asciilifeform: for anyone who doesn't know the score re: 's.nsa', i personally only earn anything if the product works as advertised and is well-loved.
kakobrekla: but yes, we have a nuclear pp.
kakobrekla: ;;google kr¹ko
gribble: KRKO-AM: <http://www.krko.com/>; KRKO - North Sound 1380 Everett, WA - Listen Online - TuneIn: <http://tunein.com/radio/North-Sound-1380-s35018/>; KRKO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRKO>
jurov: nah, eating hormone-fed chicken will do it
kakobrekla: dafuq
kakobrekla: here a wiki link i know you hate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kr¹ko
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
jurov: unicode fail again
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 548.99, Best ask: 549.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 549.0, 24 hour volume: 51322.07442683, 24 hour low: 514.02, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 574.306706561
kakobrekla: so it seems i have a charset incompatible with myself
jurov: indeed
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 574.306706561 * .7 * 0.00021 * 10**6
gribble: 84423.0858645
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 223 @ 0.00497399 = 1.1092 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: you're rich bitch :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 241 @ 0.004974 = 1.1987 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: ;;google slovenia nuclear plant
gribble: Krško Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kr%C5%A1ko_Nuclear_Power_Plant>; Nuclear energy in Slovenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_in_Slovenia>; Nuclear Power in Slovenia | Slovenia Nuclear Energy: <http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-O-S/Slovenia/>
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1300 @ 0.00498759 = 6.4839 BTC [+] {9}
mircea_popescu: no fucking way
mircea_popescu: "The plant is a 2-loop Westinghouse pressurized water reactor, with a rated thermal capacity of 1,994 thermal megawatts (MWt) and 696 megawatts-electric"
mircea_popescu: ahahaha okay.
kakobrekla: nuff to grow tits
Vexual: sounds like nub's bong
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8565 @ 0.00013378 = 1.1458 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00088262 = 3.6187 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: It runs on [...] demineralized water as the moderator
mircea_popescu: check it out... it's basically a skoda.
asciilifeform: more of a ford, no?
benkay`: ;;calc 696/1994
gribble: 0.349047141424
asciilifeform: '... the first western nuclear power plant in eastern Europe'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2003 @ 0.00499995 = 10.0149 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4436 @ 0.000131 = 0.5811 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 268 @ 0.00497648 = 1.3337 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 350 @ 0.000818 = 0.2863 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: pretty cool.
mircea_popescu: boroz tito ftw.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.004999 = 0.11 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: čžš
kakobrekla: seems to work
jurov: yes, now it works
jurov: ľščťžýáíéúäôň
mircea_popescu: dudes srsly, learn to language
mircea_popescu: all these shits everywhere.
pankkake: âĉāǎ
jurov: just what i have on my damn keyboard
pankkake: what is your layout like?
mircea_popescu: if god had wanted stupid letters he;d have made them
kakobrekla: you just need Đ for doge.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.004851 = 2.9106 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: Đ is for 8====Đ
asciilifeform: reminds me of a cracked copy of ms-vb i saw as a kid, registered to 'ňäáíé'.
jurov: pankkake they are under 1-9 on US layout
kakobrekla: is that "8 absofuckinglutley the fuckin same as Đ" in php?
pankkake: oh, kinda like azerty French accents. I think it's stupid
jurov: yes it is
pankkake: I am using BÉPO http://bepo.fr/
pankkake: optimized for French but can write a bunch of European characters easily
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yes. also penis.
pankkake: omg it has Ð easily accessible
mircea_popescu: to the moon!
asciilifeform: i thought even the chinese have renounced weirdo keyboards
asciilifeform: in favour of translit-pinyin
kakobrekla: well if you dont have Đ you can also use DŽ
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 295 @ 0.00498 = 1.4691 BTC [+]
pankkake: and no Ƀ - I only have a <Compose>btc
jurov: dž lolol
pankkake: Dž (titlecase form; all-capitals form DŽ, lowercase dž) is the seventh letter of the Croatian and Bosnian alphabets
pankkake: what is going on
jurov: we have "ch" as extra letter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2438 @ 0.00088262 = 2.1518 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's a Ro keyboard like?
pankkake: if I paste it the character is transformed
pankkake: but moreover. it's TWO LETTERS
pankkake: don't call it a letter!! araaahagahg
kakobrekla: yes :)
jurov: duuno why they didn't use "x" proper, nobody takes that seriously anyway
kakobrekla: pankkake > It has a similar sound to the English dg in dodge.
kakobrekla: and those idiots call it dodge coin
kakobrekla: so croatian would say "dođcoin"
jurov: ж isn't ž only?
jurov: not dž ?
kakobrekla: seems more like ž yea
asciilifeform: herr tito, famously: 'Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle... If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send a second.'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 220 @ 0.00487712 = 1.073 BTC [+] {6}
kakobrekla: >I was hoping you could point me in the right direction. I see that your company is involved with bitcoin. We are hosting the CryptoCurrency Convention in NYC on April 9th. We wanted to reach out to see if a partnership opportunity would be both appropriate and mutually beneficial.
kakobrekla: jurov got any of taht?
jurov: no, because noobs can't understand what coinbr is about
jurov: i fear the day when i simplify the frontpage text
jurov: i only get email from vulturescammer and the like
kakobrekla: ok so here is the rest of the pump email
kakobrekla: The event is being held at the Hilton Midtown Manhattan and over 25,000 sq/ ft will be dedicated to exhibits, speakers, attendees and investors.
kakobrekla: We have a very wide range of sponsorships and promotional items to suit any appetite and will over-deliver on all of them. VIP Parties, Special Events and Hackathons have also proven to be beneficial beyond branding and exposure. New York City makes anything possible. We are expecting 1500-2000 attendees.
kakobrekla: We are looking for support from others like yourself in the CryptoCurrency Ecosystem. Education and exposure is how we all win.
kakobrekla: Please take a few moments to look over our and know that we are humbled to be involved with bitcoin and CryptoCurrency so early. The future is bright.
kakobrekla: We believe that CryptoCurrency is the future and the foundation is being set now. We are making a conscious intentional effort to collaborate with other leaders and pioneers such as yourself to bring CryptoCurrency to the people it benefits.
pankkake: "CryptoCurrency"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00482746 = 0.3717 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i never used one. standard-us my entire lyf.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same
mircea_popescu: haha tito @stalin
mircea_popescu: stalin stopped.
kakobrekla: oh yeah and the link www.cryptocurrencyconvention.com
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla who's that ? nobody in particular ?
jurov: Over 275 Coins Available!
jurov: *closes*
kakobrekla: i dont know
kakobrekla: im trying to understand WHY
kakobrekla: and then WHO
jurov: isn't that the dud with 20000 domains?
mircea_popescu: why, cause that's how you become part of bitcoin, holding a derpference.
jurov: they crave exposure, ya know
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.00481915 = 0.2554 BTC [+] {5}
kakobrekla: well if doge party is not coming im split.
mircea_popescu: maybe they can paint a mutt in gold this time
Duffer1: bitcoinpetes post about doge party made me cringe irl
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 393 @ 0.00477855 = 1.878 BTC [-] {7}
pankkake: *decentralized* doge party
mircea_popescu: dedoged party ?
kakobrekla: dođe party you mean.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.004753 = 0.3327 BTC [-]
jurov: lmao i posted that link into #bitcoin.cz (full of altcoin miners)
mircea_popescu: kara-djodje party!
jurov: and got immediate response:
jurov: "but doge creator is not listed!"
jurov: so no go
mircea_popescu: The length is stored in an unsigned char type, which will overflow and wrap at 256
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 9981 @ 0.00498825 = 49.7877 BTC [+] {22}
mircea_popescu: 3! 3 major bugs in like forever!
pankkake: so you are punished for being Really Secure with long passwords
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.005 = 0.195 BTC [+]
pankkake: by the way, there is an enormous amount of websites failing with my passwords. too long(!), characters making the thing explode…
mircea_popescu: "255 chars should be enought for everyone"
jurov: typing in >200 chars passphrase is paranoia
mircea_popescu: anyway, past about 48 characters or so you get no actual further benefit
mircea_popescu: as the hash doesn't carry the entropy iirc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 198 @ 0.0050346 = 0.9969 BTC [+] {3}
Jere_Jones: The yubikey can hold a static password up to 64 characters long. 200+? 4 yubikeys that you have to use in the right order?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00504898 = 0.3282 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: ;;seen thestringpuller
gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 12 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> might not be completely your type tho :P (not super model enuff)
nubbins`: okay, so we actually recorded two albums for the RPM challenge
nubbins`: if anyone's interested, i've got one of them available for streaming: https://atelierbleu.bandcamp.com/
nubbins`: jurov, my pgp password is ~100 chars, very cumbersome
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 333 @ 0.0050099 = 1.6683 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: nubbins` thats the public key you dummy!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 688 @ 0.00507543 = 3.4919 BTC [+] {6}
nubbins`: i auth with gribs using my public key? ;(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.005099 = 0.1581 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "the poor probably need them more thna you do"
nubbins`: sick shoes
nubbins`: heels are L-brackets
nubbins`: also waitaminute how do you know what my ass looks like?!
mircea_popescu: i'm like the nsa
mircea_popescu: except not evil.
nubbins`: the nsa taps phones, not asses
mircea_popescu: Rod you the sirf guy ?
assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1654587/plain/)
pankkake: !b 5 -1
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 402 @ 0.00509 = 2.0462 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00509 = 0.4072 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: nubbins`: what's the RPM challenge? your thing is weird
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 317 @ 0.00458829 = 1.4545 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00509 = 0.1934 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00508 = 0.127 BTC [-]
nubbins`: pankkake, the challenge is to write and record an album entirely in the month of february
mircea_popescu: ello rod
Rod: hello
mircea_popescu: a there you go!
Rod: yes
mircea_popescu: so i read your sirf piece, and it is exactly what's needed.
nubbins`: it's a popular thing here
Rod: thank you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 370 @ 0.0055 = 2.035 BTC
mircea_popescu: so, how do i get you to spend the next decade of your life obsessively covering bitcoin stocks ?
Rod: thank you both
mircea_popescu: we have a shitton of the stuff and it needs you desperately.
mircea_popescu: because most of it is horrendous crap.
Rod: Wow.
Rod: lot of scams in this world?
asciilifeform: what's sirf?
nubbins`: pretty much 99% scams
Rod: a non-profit investigative reporting foundation. We do document driven financial investigative work
mircea_popescu: Rod so tell you what i'm gonna do. i'll pay you a bitcoin upfront just to show you i mean business.
Rod: Thats for asciilifeform
Rod: Thats generous, no need. getting the story out there, to people I dont see or know, its appreciated enough
mircea_popescu: yes but let me do what i wanna do.
nubbins`: try stomping your foot
mircea_popescu: you're a nonprofit, you can have it there. got a donation address ?
Rod: we have a paypal at sirf-online.org.....
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 288 @ 0.00507663 = 1.4621 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: yes well, we hate paypal.
Rod: ok
mircea_popescu: tell you what, get a bitcoin address up for donations, maybe some of these scrooges will sweeten the pot
Rod: i mean no offense to anyone
nubbins`: none taken!
Rod: ok. let me do that.
mircea_popescu: and other than that : here's the channel log : http://bitcoin-assets.com
mircea_popescu: sifting through there you can get AT LEAST a subject a day.
mircea_popescu: going back like a year.
Rod: ok, wow.
mircea_popescu: there is so much you can cover, you will literally not be doing anything else.
Rod: wild west, frontier stuff, eh?
mircea_popescu: there are some other people trying to cover things, but they're you know, doing other things.
Duffer1: people trying to reinvent the wheel and reenact the history of money pretty much daily
mircea_popescu: often with humorous results. often with quite painful results.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15814 @ 0.00088234 = 13.9533 BTC [-]
Rod: i am unfamiliar with this world; i feel like a 70 year old guy looking at the moonshot.
mircea_popescu: how old are you ?
Rod: 45
mircea_popescu: you'll be fine, there's people older than you here
Duffer1: do you know how to/need help with setting a bitcoin wallet?
mircea_popescu: course they're petrified of me, but hey.
Rod: of course i get bitcoin, just did not know of the fraud possibilities
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 290 @ 0.00508 = 1.4732 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: this channel is basically #bitcoin-curmudgeons
Duffer1: ah so you've never been to bitcointalk.org then? :P
mircea_popescu: Rod so wait, you have a bitcoin wallet then ?
Rod: no i assuredly need help setting up a wallet
mircea_popescu: ah i see.
mircea_popescu: go to blockchain.info, you can set one up in like a minute
Rod: duffer1, I confess i have not
mircea_popescu: do not keep much value there however.
mircea_popescu: getting a proper wallet will require some more downloading and reading, which i encourage you to do, but it will take time.
BingoBoingo: Another good beginner wallet, runs locally https://multibit.org/
Rod: ok
mircea_popescu: ;;google trilema bitcoin drama timeline
gribble: The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/>; The best investments in the history of Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/>; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/>
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00508 = 0.3048 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: that first link is a decent primer i guess.
Rod: is there a consensus about which is best for a non-profit like us that is not terribly sophisticated?
Duffer1: on which wallet to use?
mircea_popescu: if you want to autosell your bitcoins you can prolly use bitpay
Rod: yes
mircea_popescu: if youwant to keep them prolly blockchain.info, or sure, multibit.org
nubbins`: +1 for blockchain.info
mircea_popescu: i think bitpay actually pays out to paypal ? not even sure, never used them myself.
Rod: we would probably autosell since we would seek to convert to $
pankkake: (but you will spend a week explaining to bitpay what your nonprofit does :p)
Rod: ok
pankkake: no, bitpay sends bank wires
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00509 = 0.4988 BTC [+]
nubbins`: neobump
Duffer1: ya probably fastest to get set up on blockchain.info for a wallet address, then start bitpay kyc account procedures probably takes a while
thestringpuller: paperwallets take no time at all
thestringpuller: cold storage = best store of value
Rod: ok, so I will set up one up tonight
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 549 @ 0.00507292 = 2.785 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: good idea.
thestringpuller: bitcoind is really easy to setup on linux
mircea_popescu: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 3756197794.67 based on data since last change | 3964540086.78 based on data for last three days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.00509512 = 1.0394 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 524 @ 0.000475 = 0.2489 BTC [+]
pankkake: does Multibit keep the blockchain on your machine?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 296 @ 0.00509512 = 1.5082 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: pankkake i think it at least tries to
thestringpuller: what's the command for blockchain size
pankkake: that's a thing to now beforehand nowadays. cause you will spend a week downloading 18Gs
pankkake: du -sh ~/.bitcoin
thestringpuller: it's 18G now?
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Multibit is an SPV deal
mircea_popescu: it's about 18 yeah
pankkake: cool, like Electrum so
thestringpuller: pankkake: lol
BingoBoingo: Multibit just tracks inputs and outputs, it doesn't do the client sever thing electrum does though.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 228 @ 0.00509512 = 1.1617 BTC [+] {4}
thestringpuller: $ du -sh /home/leflor/.bitcoin/
thestringpuller: 18G /home/leflor/.bitcoin/
Duffer1: the bootstrap torrent is really fast
pankkake: it is fast, and it has a lot of usage. I'm uploading around ~600kbs/s all the time
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 207 @ 0.00509512 = 1.0547 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: cease to be traded
mircea_popescu: that should be interesting
kakobrekla: yeah BingoBoingo , dont take me too seriously.
nubbins`: no kidding
nubbins`: havelock goes down for an hour and the bet resolves as yes
mircea_popescu: nubbins` doesn't seem so.
nubbins`: i kid
nubbins`: glad they said "cease"
mircea_popescu: interestingly mod priced it 6:4
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00509512 = 0.1936 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.49357399 = 2.4679 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: pankkake you're a good man.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.49947444 = 4.4953 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00509634 = 0.1835 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: I hope 0.9 will fix sync though, because the current situation sucks
pankkake: also, I have almost free bandwidth. torrents everywhere on my servers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.0051 = 0.3978 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00509131 = 1.0183 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 14549 BTC profit, 40.6k BTC invested, 704.34 mio bets, 5.04 mio BTC wagered
pankkake: nubbins`: I liked Mr. Holland's Opiates
nubbins`: tyvm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1363 @ 0.00047501 = 0.6474 BTC [+]
nubbins`: our goal was to make an album that would cause children to weep
kakobrekla: seems the volume went quickly to 5mio and now is kinda sluggish ?
kakobrekla: or is it just me
mircea_popescu: i've not been watching it much, other than to marvel in disbelief how the profit just won't revert to normal.
kakobrekla: everyone is on doge dice nowdays
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 116 @ 0.0051 = 0.5916 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i guess its cheaper to play martingale
wao-ender: damn, that neobee stocks
wao-ender: it's manipulated, right?
mircea_popescu: check it out! i share articles from march 3, 2014!
kakobrekla: how is it manipulated?
Rod: Mircea, I'm gonna set up a wallet and Ill tweet you when it's done. Probably later this week as I am traveling some over the next few days.
wao-ender: mircea_popescu: time travel has been proven!
Rod: This has been interesting, learned a few things to be sure.
mircea_popescu: rob no problem
wao-ender: kakobrekla: like they investing in their own stocks?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 168 @ 0.0051414 = 0.8638 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you can drop by any time, too
mircea_popescu: (this is probably the best place to get in touch with me)
Rod: thanks. best to duffer1 and all.
Rod: will do then.
Duffer1: ^.^
wao-ender: c'mon, but they rent some kind big building in that tiny town?
thestringpuller: you must send mircea_popescu one female as tribute though for future questions
mike_c: kakobrekla: volume hit 5m 10 days agao. the line is pretty steady.
mircea_popescu: what am i going to do with more owmenz ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: no longer accepts btc as payment, only females
mike_c: ^ click 'wagered'
Duffer1: the world would be a better place if Rod started poking BFL and/or ActM
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 whatever he picks, he can be at it until the cows come home
jurov: Duffer1: do they deserve such attention?
Duffer1: probably
kakobrekla: mike_c when i click all it starts at 4.2k
Duffer1: since they're still in business
mike_c: yeah, they started tracking mid october
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
kakobrekla: got a chart from before that?
mike_c: the big bump (and reason they aren't close to EV) was nakowa dumping 1mil in action in september i believe
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 167.0, vol: 95540.83355106 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 541.63, vol: 50366.28562481 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 563.54, vol: 19015.20618 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 548.0, vol: 29382.98207869 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 570.0, vol: 384.26445092 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 583.83016, vol: 13001.30000000 | Volume-weighted last average: 374.896089776
kakobrekla: so nakowa pumped the stats alone
twizt: lol people still use gox
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 332 @ 0.0051414 = 1.7069 BTC [+]
mike_c: he basically broke even (instead of losing his shirt), so they are way below EV
mircea_popescu: twizt there's a bitbet bet about it going under 150
pankkake: wait wasn't mtgox 300 yesterday?
mircea_popescu: probably by now the only point of interest re mtgox left.
mircea_popescu: pankkake yesterday was yesterday.
kakobrekla: i think the size of bets over time would be an interesting metric
twizt: well i already said it was gonna drop below 100 fwhen it was 900
kakobrekla: average daily bet
twizt: so bang
twizt: didnt make shit off it
kakobrekla: or something
nubbins`: that guy is fucked
nubbins`: i like him
twizt: but <3 my forecasting abilities
diametric: mircea_popescu: so i was looking at that bet, it says "however momentarily", so all it would take is someone to throw up a buy order for 150.1 right?
mircea_popescu: so next time bet.
diametric: and the bet would satisfy yes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0051414 = 0.1954 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: oh there is such metric
mircea_popescu: diametric yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 71 @ 0.00500008 = 0.355 BTC [-] {3}
diametric: thats also vague
diametric: well the second part is less vague
diametric: thats a good one
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.0051414 = 0.7095 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: leet-o
diametric: theres no way they'd be adding litecoin to the trading engine now.
ThickAsThieves: the title for the NEOBEE bitbet may be leading a bit, what if it just moves to some other exchange?
pankkake: bitbet titles are always kinda trolly
jurov: ThickAsThieves: which one? cryptostocks?
jurov: lel
ThickAsThieves: doesnt matter
wao-ender: jurov: ^
jurov: i know
nubbins`: just because you have foster parents doesn't mean you're not an orphan.
kakobrekla: is cypertrade up yet
kakobrekla: or whats that shemale up to
Duffer1: few weeks till launch
ThickAsThieves: wouldnt the parents be LMB though?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 129 @ 0.0051414 = 0.6632 BTC [+]
jurov: did LMB put 9k btc in?
nubbins`: not sure there's such a thing as a perfect analogy here
ThickAsThieves: doesnt need an analogy for my point anyway
nubbins`: title is indeed a poor fit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1140 @ 0.0001626 = 0.1854 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1140 @ 0.0001639 = 0.1868 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.00514223 = 1.0027 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00514899 = 0.2986 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12944875 = 0.3883 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1140 @ 0.00014197 = 0.1618 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.5 = 13 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: cool thanks mike_c
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 437 @ 0.00514899 = 2.2501 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00486996 = 0.2094 BTC [+]
diametric: scammers gonna scam.
mircea_popescu: later all.
kakobrekla: enjoy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12944877 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 170 @ 0.0008638 = 0.1468 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 772 @ 0.005149 = 3.975 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 128 @ 0.005149 = 0.6591 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.10622499 = 0.4249 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.10841922 = 1.4094 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00514793 = 0.4993 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.48107001 = 4.8107 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: oh, karplel resigned from the foundation?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.48035177 = 6.7249 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00515 = 0.2987 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: prolly kicked out
kakobrekla: you know, 'resigned'
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: tendered his resignation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 241 @ 0.00513207 = 1.2368 BTC [-] {3}
KRS-One: Excuse me for a moment.
KRS-One: .bait
KRS-One: ahh..ty...bbl
KRS-One: fap fap
mike_c: this bet should have been weightless
ozbot: BitBet - Kuka table tennis robot to beat human
kakobrekla: i agree
kakobrekla: at least its at 50k
kakobrekla: the end weight, i mean.
mike_c: yeah. but still can't get decent odds on it anymore.
mike_c: i don't have a strong enough opinion to fade the weight.
mike_c: should be fun to watch though.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 490 @ 0.00514003 = 2.5186 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 308 @ 0.0050953 = 1.5694 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00502 = 0.502 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00519973 = 0.4992 BTC [+] {2}
Jere_Jones: mike_c "fade the weight"? What does that mean?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 182 @ 0.00511819 = 0.9315 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00503697 = 0.5037 BTC [-] {3}
mike_c: it basically means i can't give up the odds the weight is laying. the weight being the decreasing odds that bitbets offer as the bet goes on
kakobrekla: basically on bets that you perceive close to 50:50 it only makes sense to bet when the weight is high or the yes to no ratio skewed badly
Jere_Jones: That makes sense
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00528999 = 0.4761 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 159 @ 0.005288 = 0.8408 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00529 = 0.4761 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.00529 = 1.0157 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1107 @ 0.00529396 = 5.8604 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1010101 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0053794 = 0.4304 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00538242 = 0.1884 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 274 @ 0.00537932 = 1.4739 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 186 @ 0.00539 = 1.0025 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 394 @ 0.00539 = 2.1237 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 312 @ 0.00539048 = 1.6818 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 569 @ 0.00538789 = 3.0657 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 533 @ 0.00539 = 2.8729 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 385 @ 0.00539561 = 2.0773 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.12944885 = 1.9417 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 505 @ 0.00539315 = 2.7235 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00088262 = 13.1069 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 121 @ 0.00539427 = 0.6527 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00540561 = 0.2054 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.0054888 = 0.1208 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 783 @ 0.0005 = 0.3915 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1969 @ 0.00548967 = 10.8092 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15813 @ 0.00088229 = 13.9517 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00548983 = 0.2745 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 531 @ 0.00050098 = 0.266 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.005491 = 0.2746 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 208 @ 0.0054916 = 1.1423 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39750 @ 0.00088154 = 35.0412 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 285 @ 0.00549989 = 1.5675 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12944885 = 0.2589 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 445 @ 0.00549988 = 2.4474 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: LMB Subsidiaries Ltd. :: Transfer to Havelock
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1227 @ 0.00545819 = 6.6972 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.00549978 = 0.5115 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00549 = 0.2745 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 198 @ 0.00549 = 1.087 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 293 @ 0.00539001 = 1.5793 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 365 @ 0.00539 = 1.9674 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1220 @ 0.00543917 = 6.6358 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00549 = 0.4502 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.005385 = 0.1454 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.12725555 = 1.1453 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.005385 = 0.1669 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00549 = 0.6314 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00549 = 2.196 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: !t h neobee
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00319950 / 0.00421939 / 0.00549989 (154736 shares, 652.89206160 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.0038483 / 0.00549989 (239039 shares, 919.89314653 BTC), 30D: 0.00257150 / 0.0035176 / 0.00549989 (373079 shares, 1312.34442293 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 246 @ 0.00549099 = 1.3508 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 19 @ 0.00549 = 0.1043 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0609 = 0.4263 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00549 = 0.3678 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.00549 = 0.7412 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 959 @ 0.00533258 = 5.1139 BTC [-] {13}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 505 @ 0.0053 = 2.6765 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00087541 = 7.0033 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1175 @ 0.0055 = 6.4625 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00529999 = 0.6254 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12699987 = 0.508 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12699988 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 287 @ 0.00522753 = 1.5003 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.0051 = 0.3876 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12699988 = 0.254 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.0055 = 0.165 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 137 @ 0.00510365 = 0.6992 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 800 @ 0.00502448 = 4.0196 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 469 @ 0.00504603 = 2.3666 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.127 = 0.254 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.005 = 0.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.005 = 0.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12699999 = 0.381 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 361 @ 0.00496998 = 1.7942 BTC [-] {5}
Bugpowderr: kakobrekla: got the chart
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 602 @ 0.0048072 = 2.8939 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12889999 = 0.2578 BTC [+]
peterl: looks like neobee is entering the 'dump' stage of the pump and dump
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00469 = 0.4456 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1321 @ 0.00457547 = 6.0442 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.004505 = 0.1577 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2010 @ 0.00402312 = 8.0865 BTC [-] {10}
kakobrekla: anything interesting ?
Bugpowderr: yes but I need more data now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 800 @ 0.00401 = 3.208 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: anything reasonable?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.10855 = 0.2171 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1065 @ 0.00400222 = 4.2624 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00400666 = 1.0017 BTC [+] {2}
Bugpowderr: Sorry doing an experiment
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 162 @ 0.004 = 0.648 BTC [-] {2}
Bugpowderr: The address at one point moves 437,000 BTC, then bifurcates that several times into smaller addresses, some of which eventually get returned to the green address. Let's call these putative cold storage addresses.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06089999 = 0.1218 BTC [+]
Bugpowderr: How do I do that ghost thing so I can get my nick back?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
ozbot: Gox Analysis - Imgur
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.0008214 = 0.4107 BTC [-] {2}
Jere_Jones: Does that mean that about half the original btc are sitting roughly 2 hops away from the green address?
Jere_Jones: nm. I, apparently, can't read a label.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4211 @ 0.00087541 = 3.6864 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00439 = 0.1493 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: not sure how to read that chart, does it need a timeline?
Bugpowderr: kakobrekla: I need a JSON of all transactions that have 1 input and two outputs from block 156631 thru 156900.
Bugpowderr: ThickAsThieves: the x axis is a timeline (in transaction #)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1036 @ 0.00414564 = 4.2949 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4805 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: transaction qty, or #
Bugpowderr: Then we can see all the putative cold storage addresses, and how many eventually pour back into the green address
ThickAsThieves: so what's to be gleaned so far?
kakobrekla: em, you mean all from that list or all tx on the network
Bugpowderr: ThickAsThieves: sequential... I will replot it based on block ID
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]
Bugpowderr: kakobrekla: I mean for the network.... Is there a tool I can use to scrape this out of the block chain data myself?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12889999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: well any blockchain parser is such tool
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12889999 = 0.2578 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.004389 = 0.3862 BTC [+] {2}
Bugpowderr: ok I will try to figure that out... Doing lots of stuff at the moment
Bugpowderr: Anyway... That block range is the key block range I think MtGox set up their cold addresses in.
kakobrekla: i pinged my bois, mebbe ill get a reply tomorro
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 509 @ 0.00403844 = 2.0556 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00438062 = 0.3504 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00439999 = 0.154 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00439971 = 1.0999 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12699998 = 0.381 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 307 @ 0.00439826 = 1.3503 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.0044 = 0.1364 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00469999 = 0.47 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00088076 = 11.7141 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 247 @ 0.00450259 = 1.1121 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12699998 = 0.254 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0049 = 0.245 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 430 @ 0.00490894 = 2.1108 BTC [+] {3}
Bugpowderr: ThickAsThieves: Updated http://imgur.com/a/rzLCu
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00497435 = 0.194 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: what amount of confidence do you have, after your next set of data processing, in fully identifying all of gox's coins
Bugpowderr: There is no way to be sure
ThickAsThieves: i suppose you cna only prove they DO have them with some confidence
ThickAsThieves: not that they dont
Bugpowderr: but we can see if there are some patterns and get a feeling for it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.005 = 0.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2416 @ 0.00088147 = 2.1296 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: a pattern showing what?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.005 = 0.12 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: A repeated and quick bifurcation of funds
Bugpowder: addresses getting cut in half 5 of 6 times, then sitting for a while, some going back into the green address.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 436 @ 0.00495229 = 2.1592 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28864 @ 0.00088258 = 25.4748 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: why would they do that?
ThickAsThieves: i cna understand breaking it up into other wallets, by why go back to the green one?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00494999 = 0.2475 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19972 @ 0.00088147 = 17.6047 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: ThickAsThieves: To top up the withdrawals? Maybe the green address is their hot wallet?
nubbins` scratches head
nubbins`: but why bifurcate 5 times on the way from cold to hot?
ThickAsThieves: only reason to split is security right?
Bugpowder: kakobrekla: I think I can scrape the specific blocks I need from block chain.info
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00494999 = 0.1732 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: so they're taking a huge cold wallet and splitting it into several smaller cold wallets and one hot wallet
Bugpowder: nubbins`: Correct
Bugpowder: more like a huge hot wallet and splitting into many cold
nubbins`: right, sure
Bugpowder: which occasionally get pushed back to the hot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18275 @ 0.00016906 = 3.0896 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8303 @ 0.00019433 = 1.6135 BTC [+] {12}
fract4l: gox lost 750k btc
zoinky: LOL
zoinky: two bit idiot
Namworld: lol whut. This is golden bullshit right at the first paragraph. Gotta read that.
fract4l: sell your goxcoins on builder ASAP
fract4l: going to zero
zoinky: oh the fud
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1021 @ 0.0002 = 0.2042 BTC [+] {3}
Bugpowder: I'm hooping my analysis is somewhat more reality based
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 245 @ 0.00491995 = 1.2054 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.004919 = 0.305 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 128 @ 0.0055 = 0.704 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.00491899 = 0.7428 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00489925 = 0.9799 BTC [-] {2}
dignork: fract4l: apparently one of your nicks was PanicSellBTC, or maybe just ip match, but still, good luck
MisterE: where is the bottom?
fract4l: dignork: hahah. how did you look that up
MisterE: this feels like it
MisterE: time to buy eh?
mike_c: wait.. are you saying gox is insolvent??
dignork: fract4l: otcdb street magic
fract4l: url?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 150 @ 0.0055 = 0.825 BTC {2}
fract4l: i really should start using vps's more often
KRS-One: yea
fract4l: can anyone recommend a good one that takes BTC w/ instant setup?
mike_c: fract4l can i sell you my bitcoin? i'll send first.
fract4l: $1 each. thnx
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.06089999 = 0.4263 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00489999 = 0.2156 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00475759 = 0.4377 BTC [-] {6}
dexX7: must be legit - "bitcoin" (not "Bitcoin", well at least sometimes), "Blockchain.info" (not blockchain.info) and round quotation marks.. matches the style used in previous statements ;)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00455327 = 0.9107 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00486973 = 0.3652 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00489 = 0.2201 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 326 @ 0.00489352 = 1.5953 BTC [+] {3}
KRS-One: are u guys watching these marekts
KRS-One: this is monumental
nubbins`: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 137.90103, vol: 102195.07906128 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 512.52, vol: 52396.43876218 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 544.756, vol: 21501.47774 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 515.0, vol: 33888.95997588 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 560.98, vol: 379.37892913 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 573.17836, vol: 13452.49200000 | Volume-weighted last average: 348.666592134
ThickAsThieves: what hapnd?
ThickAsThieves: some guy posted a blog with no data?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00489 = 0.2347 BTC [-]
nubbins`: on his tumblr, no less
Bugpowder: jumpy folks
ThickAsThieves: moon the moon!
Bugpowder: The good news is that I have interfaced matlab with block chain.info so I can spider through these addresses instead of hand analyzing them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18622 @ 0.0008827 = 16.4376 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: wow. that sounds cool. is it performant?
Bugpowder: Soon we will see what happened to the cold wallets.
mike_c: did i just make up a word? what i meant is it is fast?
Bugpowder: I doubt it
Bugpowder: 2 seconds per block
dignork: Bugpowder: how do you locate the wallets? I mean what are the graph scan conditions?
Bugpowder: but I probably only need <100 blocks
kakobrekla: so no need for me to pull the data?
Bugpowder: kakobrekla: correct
Bugpowder: dignork: all the addresses that had near even splits off of this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/478ea915aa3a2e54503c43e1c5659722b42a784412423a05394c83a44affb805
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00489989 = 0.98 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: A bunch were rapidly chained down to addresses of a few 1000 BTC each then they sat for a while
dignork: Bugpowder: ok, but how do you know the owner of 1M1ZkWpHfuQthji2AVsGDvpfY2PrcXQar6 ?
Bugpowder: The list may not be exhaustive though
Bugpowder: dignork: That is known
Bugpowder: to be mt gox
Bugpowder: as the mt gox green address passes it the coins several links up the chain.
dignork: Bugpowder: public sources? link?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00489089 = 0.1076 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: mike_c any luck with eulora?
ozbot: Gox Analysis - Imgur
Bugpowder: see inset text
mike_c: pretty bad luck. chetty suggested graphics drivers. so i updated my drivers and it hosed the box.
nubbins`: ah, bummer
nubbins`: might be worth setting up a VM
mike_c: so i reinstalled, switching from ubuntu 13 to 12.04
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00489 = 0.1956 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: installed drivers, ran it.
mike_c: and got a seg fault even earlier than before
KRS-One: Bugpowder: matlap + blockchain ftw
KRS-One: matlab
jurov: yes? i got segfault too
jurov: right on startup
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 86 @ 0.00489 = 0.4205 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: (eulora)
mike_c: yeah, that's where i'm at.
mike_c: has anyone actually got it running?
nubbins`: heh nope
nubbins`: what bundle did you grab CS from, 0.0.1?
jurov: 0.0.1 was working
Bugpowder: I need to go record from the mouse brains... Will put this on hold for a bit.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00489 = 0.1516 BTC [-]
mike_c: nubbins`: yes.
Bugpowder: back in a few with more data.
jurov: i tried CS both from gentoo ebuild
jurov: but it was 2.0 and eulora needs 2.1 ??
mike_c: yeah
jurov: which isn't released yet
mike_c: bleeding edge
nubbins`: i tried compiling a couple of 2.1 snapshots
nubbins`: no dice
jurov: eulora doesn't ship their CS cource?
nubbins`: i feel like it's in one of the earlier bundles
nubbins`: downloading em now
jurov: maybe they patched it internally
jurov: becuse i then used CS from 0.0.1 and it segfaults
nubbins`: i mean, ah
nubbins`: wasnt laughing :(
jurov: you!
jurov: :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00489 = 0.1663 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 112 @ 0.00488899 = 0.5476 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: i'm gonna set up a wordpress blog in the next couple days so we can have a permanent home for compiling/troubleshooting etc info
mike_c: good idea
mike_c: maybe wiki?
nubbins`: not much experience with wikis
nubbins`: and wordpress is free ;D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00489647 = 0.9793 BTC [+] {3}
mike_c: so is wikimedia. just could be good to let anyone edit it
nubbins`: free hosting?
mike_c: lemme look
nubbins`: didn't think so, but honestly don't know
jurov: you can ask chetty if it can be right on minigame.bz, no?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00489989 = 0.3283 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.125 = 0.75 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: i'd be willing to host one if there's interest.
ozbot: Features - Free Wiki Hosting - Wikkii - Free MediaWiki Host
jurov: i have nice and horribly underutilized php hosting at gandi, too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.004899 = 0.4899 BTC [-]
nubbins`: well i've got a saucy domain name
jurov: only use that free hosting if they allow backups
nubbins`: with our powers combined...
mike_c: btcalpha isn't exactly crumbling under the traffic load :)
jurov: welll... what about the jursdiction
mike_c: saucy domain name? what is it?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.0048925 = 0.2642 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: eulorum.org
nubbins`: oh, CS in 0.0.1 is precompiled? i can't use this D:
nubbins`: (eulorum being both the singular of eulora and a portmanteau of "eulora" and "forum")
mike_c: i like it. so we have a domain name. what about software? any suggestions better than wikimedia?
nubbins`: i gotta say, i don't really like wikis
nubbins`: too disorganized
mike_c: you think blog style is better than community edit?
jurov: anything can get disorganized
nubbins`: well, if you give a few people write access
nubbins`: it's not a huge effort to modify, say, a post about compile instructions based on feedback in comments
nubbins`: that said, blog comments aren't great for back-and-forth
nubbins`: oof, lel, the first three links on http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ all point to 0.0.1
mike_c: i prefer wiki-style, but you're the one with the hot domain name
nubbins`: just re-downloaded it ;(
nubbins`: jurov's the one with the underutilized hosting
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00489971 = 1.4699 BTC [+] {5}
jurov: mike_c has hosrting, too. but it's in the US?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0049 = 0.196 BTC [+]
mike_c: virginia. it's good stuff, very close to nsa for easy monitoring.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0049 = 0.196 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00088342 = 5.3447 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12225225 = 0.489 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: well, doesn't matter much to me who hosts it, why don't you guys flip a ;;coin or have an armwrestle or something
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00485 = 0.3589 BTC [-]
jurov: well, i'd be like, here's sftp account, diy
jurov: maybe mike can help more?
mike_c: i'd be fine with putting something up
mike_c: i mean, if it's wordpress we can just let them host. but i can throw up a wiki if that's the decision.
nubbins`: let's try a wiki and see what happens
mike_c: ok
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00489999 = 0.2499 BTC [+]
nubbins`: PM me dns servers and i'll update
mike_c: sure. i'll set it up tomorrow and send you info.
nubbins`: lovely!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 716 @ 0.00492927 = 3.5294 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: good. i'm at amazon, too, if you need sth
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2020 @ 0.00498917 = 10.0781 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 498 @ 0.00499873 = 2.4894 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.108555 = 0.6513 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06089999 = 0.3045 BTC [-]
MisterE: " MisterE, the volume numbers on MPOE for depth are complete and utter nonesense, he's claiming that his ultra thinly traded virtual stock trading on it's own market is worth more than a mtgox because the spot price was ludicrous"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 670 @ 0.005 = 3.35 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.109 = 0.436 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: the coffee i'm drinking is worth more than gox
MisterE: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10994 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0609 = 0.1218 BTC [+]
MisterE: this was back at the time
bit14: !last havelock neobee
assbot: Last trade for NEOBEE on HAVELOCK was at 0.005 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.10995 = 0.3299 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.005 = 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.005 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.16230094 = 0.8115 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.005 = 0.55 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.005 = 0.16 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.002 / 0.00205889 / 0.0021 (849 shares, 1.75 BTC), 7D: 0.002 / 0.00211812 / 0.00226762 (3958 shares, 8.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00166114 / 0.00187389 / 0.00226762 (16869 shares, 31.61 BTC)
jurov: ;;calc 1/0.00211812
gribble: 472.116782807
jurov: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 529.12 USD = 385.19936 eur
jurov: mhm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00088152 = 11.1953 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.005 = 0.54 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Crytocurrency of the Working Man
nubbins`: crytocurrency
nubbins`: protected by crytography
nubbins`: comlicated crytograhy
dignork: lol: coins are generated at the discretion of the chairman
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49225 = 0.9845 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00488573 = 1.2214 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.004999 = 0.2999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 302 @ 0.00485987 = 1.4677 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12879992 = 0.3864 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12879992 = 0.5152 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00485 = 0.1067 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12879993 = 0.3864 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.004999 = 0.175 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 417 @ 0.00499899 = 2.0846 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.12884496 = 2.5769 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: o look
kakobrekla: scammer is now tv host
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 499 @ 0.0049999 = 2.495 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.00499999 = 0.775 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: ah hey, mintchip
nubbins`: forgot about that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.005 = 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.005 = 0.7 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.00499946 = 3.7496 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00088346 = 3.1805 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Also gox is halted
nubbins`: on the bright side, i'm getting further with compiling crystal space on osx
mike_c: i just got it running on a VM. it wasn't 100% healthy, but it ran.
mike_c: i picked up some rotten fruit.
nubbins`: right on!!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.128 = 0.256 BTC [-]
nubbins` high fives
nubbins`: congrats
nubbins`: you may be the first pleb to successfully get 0.0.4 running
mike_c: :) hopefully i can run it on an actual machine and get better performance
nubbins`: nod, now the real work begins
nubbins`: VMs present pretty standard hardware
the20year: $488
ThickAsThieves: people should rally the price to make sure gox dies
greenspan_fan: so, thoughts on the legitimacy of the my gox slide deck?
nubbins`: the one that came from some random nobody's tumblr, you mean? :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 207 @ 0.00499899 = 1.0348 BTC [-]
nubbins`: i doubt he would have done such a thing just to drive traffic to his blog. which happens to be a tumblr.
nubbins`: CS still compiling... occasional bouts of panic until i realize they're warnings i'm seeing, not errors
ozbot: scottansan comments on Copy of the alleged MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft
greenspan_fan: yeah, a guy on hacker news suggests that the redacted slide is visible using illustrator
kakobrekla: gox halted?
kakobrekla: does it seem like a good time?
kakobrekla: mark sez price is 135, halts gox at 135.
ThickAsThieves: i can check the PDF in a sec
greenspan_fan: I just don't know.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.48 = 2.4 BTC [-] {2}
greenspan_fan: on the one hand, gox is run so badly
greenspan_fan: but on the other, this would be the finest example of internet trolling meets market manipulation in recent memory
kakobrekla: so badly it makes bitstamp look good
nubbins`: ugh, i don't want to sign up for a scribd account
nubbins`: someone paste a dropbox link etc to that pdf?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.005 = 0.485 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: MtGox Situation: Crisis Strategy Draft
the20year: from scribd?
ThickAsThieves: i can confirm
nubbins`: i want to download it, it's asking me to log in
nubbins`: ah, k
ThickAsThieves: the redactions are removable
nubbins`: such lel
dexX7: did you really consider this could be real? =D
nubbins`: there was an occasion a few years ago here where some government department decided to redact their own docs
greenspan_fan: do the amounts seem plausible?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02163333 = 0.1298 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: they did this by changing the background color to black in a Word doc.
ThickAsThieves: the amounts must be in shorthand
ThickAsThieves: thousands maybe?
greenspan_fan: yeah, thousands usd
Jakamoko: shit that is a lot
nubbins`: kibibucks
ThickAsThieves: maybe 10,000
nubbins`: no, sorry, kilobucks
nubbins`: i'm all mixed up
ThickAsThieves: salary would be too low for 1000
greenspan_fan: april 2015- march 2016 "other" is 150,000
ThickAsThieves: i dunnp these numbers seem weird
nubbins`: dexX7: tyvm, got it
greenspan_fan: yeah, this seems like either a genius ploy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26150 @ 0.0008835 = 23.1035 BTC [+] {2}
greenspan_fan: or there really is a consulting firm as lousy as mt gox is an exchange
nubbins`: "The reality is that MtGox can go bankrupt at any moment, and certainly deserves to as a company"
nubbins`: ^ so fake
nubbins`: who the fuck would put a sentence like that in an internal memo?
ThickAsThieves: PDF was made in Mac OS
ThickAsThieves: no other metadata i can see
ThickAsThieves: made with keynote_cirrus
nubbins`: seems like a poorly-orchestrated smear
nubbins`: complete with fake-redactions
Jakamoko: doesn't look real, but it is working. bitstamp is sliding under 500
nubbins`: eeeee, ton of deprecated method calls
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.005 = 0.18 BTC [+]
greenspan_fan: another possibility is that the pdf is substantially accurate, but still fabricated
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1169 @ 0.005 = 5.845 BTC [+]
the20year: alot of people are assuming alot of things
ThickAsThieves: created date for the PDF is tomorrow
ThickAsThieves: guess it leans to it being from asia
greenspan_fan: yeah, I would bet on it being fake
dexX7: Ryan Selkis
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.0051823 = 0.596 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0002002 = 0.2002 BTC [+]
dexX7: blacked out the numbers
dexX7: at least his name is bound to the note
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 146 @ 0.0052526 = 0.7669 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: ryan selkis
nubbins`: aka "the two-bit idiot"
the20year: Who's that?
nubbins`: aka the guy whose tumblr blog this story came from.
dexX7: that's him?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 280 @ 0.00529157 = 1.4816 BTC [+] {4}
ozbot: Ryan Selkis -
nubbins`: BUSTED
dexX7: yea, but is thsi the guy from the stupid blog?
dexX7: because there is https://twitter.com/RyanSelkis etc.
Apocalyptic: the funny thing is that the halt was after the doc got released
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05030097 = 0.1006 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00540514 = 0.5243 BTC [+] {5}
ozbot: Bitcoin Aware | Aritcles | BitBeat: Apple Drops Bitcoin App From App Store, Bitcoiners Not Happy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 321 @ 0.00545 = 1.7495 BTC [+] {8}
greenspan_fan: well, yeah
nubbins`: "...wrote Ryan Selkis, who publishes the “Two-Bit Idiot” daily newsletter"
ozbot: BitBeat: Bitcoin’s ‘Honest Nodes’ Under Attack - MoneyBeat - WSJ
nubbins`: "...Ryan Selkis wrote in his Two-Bit Idiot newsletter"
nubbins`: lel x 5
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.00545 = 0.5777 BTC [+] {4}
dexX7: ah hehehe
nubbins`: so either this guy fabricated the whole thing
ThickAsThieves: “I am livid, just like so many of you,” wrote Ryan Selkis, who publishes the “Two-Bit Idiot” daily newsletter. “For them to backdoor their users like this on Bitcoin makes me want to start an uprising. (I think others may have already started it though.)”
nubbins`: or he found a legit doc and self-redacted a bunch of info for no reason
greenspan_fan: I am trying to find a btc address to see if he's dumb enough to be buying massively after releasing damaging news
ThickAsThieves: well itd be on exchange
ThickAsThieves: so probly not seeable
greenspan_fan: alas and alack, he's not blatantly asking for tips somewhere
greenspan_fan: meanwhile, every exchange is down 20% while the dude's launching some kind of btc venture fund
ThickAsThieves: true or not, fukn bitcoin is amazing!
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
nubbins`: hahahahahah what a fucking rube, you can just highlight the goddamn redacted text
nubbins`: MY SIDES
ThickAsThieves: best trolls ever
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12300001 = 0.492 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00545 = 0.109 BTC [+]
greenspan_fan: yeah. I will further speculate that it's his hoax, because the slide deck is all about social media and assorted bullshit
the20year: where is this redacted balance sheet from?
dexX7: the black on the text is simply a comment, you can delete it or set the transparency to 0
greenspan_fan: when it should go into detail about the whole "not going bankrupt and not going to jail" plan
greenspan_fan: here's the imgur link of the unredacted page
nubbins`: dexX7 nod
nubbins`: my sides
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 19 @ 0.0055 = 0.1045 BTC
nubbins`: actually in osx preview it's not even black but translucent grey
greenspan_fan: of course, the rebranding as "gox.com" is hilarious, too
greenspan_fan: "drop the mt, it's cleaner"
ThickAsThieves: there are no MX records for gox.com fwiw
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00549039 = 0.6479 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: as is the "we are a bunch of cunts who shouldn't be in business" line
nubbins`: like
nubbins`: srsly, does he even internet?
nubbins`: does he even business?
ThickAsThieves: i actually approve of the brand change
ThickAsThieves: fake or not, the current one is offensive
ThickAsThieves: wtf is that statement
ThickAsThieves: they are confirming the insolvency, or trolled too?
ThickAsThieves: they should have been explicit
greenspan_fan: man this is fucking great
dexX7: wow
the20year: i got kicked from #bitcoin for posting that
greenspan_fan: the biggest coinbase booster somehow stumbles onto documents pertaining to the demise of coinbase's biggest rival
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.005491 = 0.291 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: maybe it's the USG!
greenspan_fan: and, fwiw, the whole shitstorm started with the guy posting a link to his own tumblr on reddit
Apocalyptic: <ThickAsThieves> they are confirming the insolvency // I feel like they are
ThickAsThieves: they really wanted that US-based dominant exchange
ThickAsThieves: that's the propblem Apoc
ThickAsThieves: it's all "feely"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 183 @ 0.005495 = 1.0056 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: wtf is wrong with companies these days
ThickAsThieves: be clear, christ
dub__: s/compnies/dude in moms basement/
greenspan_fan: well, clarity opens you up to legal liabilities
cazalla: whois gox.com does show karpeles though
greenspan_fan: for fraud/libel
copumpkin: cazalla: you can put anyone's info on a domain
ThickAsThieves: cazalla those whois arent verified
ThickAsThieves: look up therealaltcoin.org
greenspan_fan: but a three letter domain's expensive
cazalla: yeah that
greenspan_fan: it could just be fortuitous timing?
cazalla: i don't see someone using a premium 3 letter domain to push a scam
ozbot: Google
greenspan_fan: or maybe coinbase's latest pivot is into straight-up crime?
dexX7: a few words of the pdf results only the gox paper itself on google
MisterE: how low will it go today
MisterE: I almost bought at 550
MisterE: maybe today it tests 500
ThickAsThieves: it broke 500 already
greenspan_fan: Top post on HN tomorrow: How we used social media, adobe illustrator, and bitcoin in order to destroy a rival business
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.004869 = 0.1022 BTC [+] {2}
the20year: it was at 488 about 15m ago
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.12249 = 1.2249 BTC [-] {3}
greenspan_fan: from the unredacted link, I think some of the columns literally don't add up
greenspan_fan: if I'm reading it correctly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.121 = 0.242 BTC [-]
cazalla: i hope it's true, great buying opp
Bugpowder: Well, I guess I don't really need to finish my cold wallet analysis.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 294 @ 0.005495 = 1.6155 BTC [+] {2}
Apocalyptic: heh Bug
ozbot: Ryan Selkis is full of shit - Imgur
dexX7: "- New brand and services ready to be launched (Bitcoin Cafe, ..." lol
gx: gox will be back, better than ever
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.12087093 = 1.8131 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00549889 = 0.4949 BTC [+]
gx: people are gonna flock to their bitcoin cafe and deposit hundreds of thousands of coins
greenspan_fan: that's a pretty low bar, gx
cazalla: who in their right mind who use gox even if they fixed everything after all this
gx: </sarc
dexX7: wow goxcoins at 0.11
greenspan_fan: I wish I had an acct on bitcoin builder
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.120033 = 0.7202 BTC [-] {3}
greenspan_fan: that is too cheap given how likely this is a hoax
the20year: wonder if we could hit the 1mb limit?
gx: pretty elaborate hoax though
gx: but could be, yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11482776 = 0.689 BTC [-] {3}
the20year: bitcoinbuilder is at .14
Bugpowder: its not a hoax dude
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.005495 = 0.3901 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12517994 = 0.2504 BTC [+]
nubbins`: Bugpowder, so why is this guy redacting these "real" PDFs himself?
ThickAsThieves: coinbase edited their post
nubbins`: haha
ThickAsThieves: to remove insolvency from it
ThickAsThieves: thanks to my tweet!
cazalla: that was quick
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00545 = 0.6867 BTC [-]
ozbot: Joint Statement Regarding the Insolvency of MtGox | Blockchain.info Team Blog
cazalla: guess they drafted it together
nubbins`: cazalla: that's what a joint statement is :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0054 = 0.216 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i hope they showed this to their lawyers first...
cazalla: changing it after posting might suggest otherwise
the20year: they redacted the 'insolvency' word
greenspan_fan: if you had access to a real pdf, why would you redact everything using illustrator?
cazalla: wonder how long until blockchain redact it
Bugpowder: Well... Bitcoin-assets people called it first. Days ago.
ThickAsThieves: the redaction was likely done using a 3rd party PDF editor
ThickAsThieves: even adobe isnt this bad
greenspan_fan: Either way, it just weakens your case
greenspan_fan: and the numbers are purely speculative for the future and drawn from mt gox's reports for the past
gx: greenspan_fan they forgot to mention the 200,000BTC they're gonna make w/ their cafe though. gotta weigh that in.
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: it was probably redacted with OSX Preview
gx: you talking about the last page of the document where everything is blacked out?
nubbins`: if it was originally created with keynote
ThickAsThieves: someone start a gox ipo on cryptostocks, quick!
gx: is that viewable
greenspan_fan: yes, see imgur links
Bugpowder: ThickAsThieves: lol
nubbins`: gx: you can highlight the text and copy/paste
gx: ah derp
greenspan_fan: but the funny thing is, it might be right anyways
greenspan_fan: but if it is a hoax, and one of those 'startup ftw!' jackasses made it, then they might be sunk as well
ThickAsThieves: it's gox we're talking bout after all
gx: ah, so that's why it's a hoax, someone just c+p their annual report to the last page to make it seem legit?
gx: am i reading that right
greenspan_fan: which would be, I think, the funniest thing since pirate
gx: or, projections rather
ThickAsThieves: why redact it at all is the question
greenspan_fan: well they've got future projections etc.
ThickAsThieves: it's the least useful page
greenspan_fan: because some of the columns don't seem to add up, or I'm reading it wrong?
Bugpowder: Coinbase has too much money invested in it now by serious people for this to be bullshit
ThickAsThieves: i cant add them either
greenspan_fan: serious people put 41 million into color.com
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: to make it seem legit.
ThickAsThieves: coinbase edited their blog post bug
ThickAsThieves: to rmeove the insolvency accusation
ThickAsThieves: they are just being opportunists
greenspan_fan: you are way overestimating the intelligence of the silicon valley people
ThickAsThieves: they dont know wha the fuck is what
the20year: i find it interesting they're doing it jointly with compeditors
gx: ha
greenspan_fan: how did they all get together and become confident enough to risk getting sued in the space of a couple hours?
gx: it's members of the btc foundation
gx: which the gox guy just stepped down
Apocalyptic: mtgox.com just went out
ThickAsThieves: coinbase is worried theyll have less customers thats all
ThickAsThieves: they are thinking long term
ThickAsThieves: hastily, but longterm nonetheless
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 803 @ 0.00509856 = 4.0941 BTC [-] {9}
nubbins`: mtgox.com is indeed gone
Duffer1: yep blank page for me
ThickAsThieves: it's loading ... nothing
kakobrekla: this is going faster than i thought ?
greenspan_fan: it's loaded but there's nothing transmitted
ThickAsThieves: i'm gonna win my bitbet!
nubbins`: nothing at all
dub__: aaanditsgone.com
ThickAsThieves: how do you even do that ?
ThickAsThieves: have no source
ThickAsThieves: but still resolve
greenspan_fan: exactly
gx: send a 200 ok header
gx: thats it
nubbins`: index.html is an empty file
greenspan_fan: they've wiped the entire page
nubbins`: browser is smart enough to not choke
Apocalyptic: so nubbins`
Apocalyptic: you still think it's a hoax ?
nubbins`: Apocalyptic: i still think the pdf is fake, yes
nubbins`: but as i mentioned in -otc:
nubbins`: [23:53:10] <nubbins`> oh, don't get me wrong, gox is broke
nubbins`: [23:53:14] <nubbins`> everything is gone
ThickAsThieves: i'm on the fence
ThickAsThieves: yeha that too
Apocalyptic: as unreal as it may appear, I think the doc is legit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00543499 = 0.2174 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: karpeles is so fucked
ThickAsThieves: maybe the most fucked man alive
nubbins`: but why is it so poorly written, why did the guy who "discovered" the doc redact a page?
ThickAsThieves: nub how did you determine it was him that redacte dit
gx: mightve been written in haste as an initial draft
Apocalyptic: <nubbins`> but why is it so poorly written, // why is the all mtgox system so poorly written ?
gx: fired off to someone for approval and then leaked
gx: obviously they all know theyre steering a sinking ship
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: because the redactions (actually black highlights) have his name on them
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: see http://imgur.com/a/ZyBZ5
nubbins`: open your pdf viewer, and enable highlights/notes
Duffer1: why is ryan selkis?
nubbins`: Apocalyptic: fair enough ;(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.00541999 = 0.1572 BTC [-] {3}
greenspan_fan: two-bit-idiot
Duffer1: just some blogger?
nubbins`: Duffer1: some guy who "leaked" this pdf.
nubbins`: a nobody.
Duffer1: interesting
greenspan_fan: he's some vc/blogger/bitcoin nobody
greenspan_fan: which is the resume of every scam artist in the space
ThickAsThieves: oh it appears diffe3rnt in acrobat pro
dexX7: did trading on gox stop?
kakobrekla: no, gox is stop.
nubbins`: dexX7, gox is gone
ozbot: Ryan Selkis -
dexX7: api is still available
ozbot: Ryan Selkis | LinkedIn
gx: last 2 hrs of data missing for us
nubbins`: honestly, i think this selkis guy completely fabricated the pdf and associated "story", for whatever reason, but then it grew legs, people started panicking and issuing statements, so gox (who knew it was only a matter of time anyway) decided now was as good a time as any to give it up
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nubbins`: imagine
gx: seems like selkis is in competition w/ gox in one way or another.
nubbins`: an asshole who wanted cheap coin for his business was the straw that broke gox's back
nubbins`: honestly wouldn't have guessed
Apocalyptic: <nubbins`> an asshole who wanted cheap coin for his business was the straw that broke gox's back // are you serious ?
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nubbins`: Apocalyptic: am i ever serious? :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00088369 = 5.7882 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: man, CS is still building. shoulda made a pizza
ozbot: Ryan Selkis - YouTube
kakobrekla: www.businessinsider.com.au/falcon-global-capital-offers-to-buy-the-fbis-bitcoins-2014-2
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00520006 = 0.156 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: hell, this channel could muster a better offer than them
nubbins`: let's all chip in on 14% below
nubbins`: that guy has an asshole face
dexX7: haha yea
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.0609 = 2.4969 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 267 @ 0.00492521 = 1.315 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 251 @ 0.0021 = 0.5271 BTC [+]
greenspan_fan: I wonder if it would be better just to buy mt gox?
ozbot: overview for SarahCoinBit
ThickAsThieves: sarahcoinbit magically starts posting an hour ago?
greenspan_fan: or visit DPR in prison? ... if you wanted to buy questionable coins in bulk
Apocalyptic: KRS-One, can you get a registration date for the account ?
ThickAsThieves: go for it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1071 @ 0.00478179 = 5.1213 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12337774 = 0.3701 BTC [-] {2}
dexX7: redditor for 28 days
ozbot: historian1111 comments on MtGOX Situation Crisis Draft
jayk: lights out for mtgox?
gx: interesting point, they intentionally tried to tank the price so theyd be liable for less
Duffer1: hopefully jayk
gx: and froze at a low point
nubbins`: interesting times
greenspan_fan: they only ever really had a genius for fraud
nubbins`: "i remember where i was when i found out mtgox was gone... sitting on my ass in front of the computer"
greenspan_fan: interestingly enough, that's also where I was on 9/11
nubbins`: heh, i was smoking a joint outside the library at uni
the20year: I was watching regis and kelly on 9/11
Apocalyptic: dexX7, good point
nubbins`: was locked in an exam room for the actual event, didn't find out until hours afterwards
ThickAsThieves: would be more fun if we were all in a real room sharing a joint
nubbins`: brb, next best thing
ThickAsThieves: maybe we should do an american b-a "conference"
greenspan_fan: and was your mark 0.8181818 repeating?
nubbins`: greenspan_fan: honestly can't recall ;(
nubbins`: fun fact, .99 repeating == 1
greenspan_fan: I was going to pretend to disagree
jayk: they were allowing trading up until today
greenspan_fan: but I just don't have the heart
nubbins`: aww, i was going to prove it several different ways ;(
nubbins`: now it's all left as an exercise to the reader
greenspan_fan: 1/3 = 0.3333...
nubbins`: that's one way :D
greenspan_fan: what are some other ways?
ThickAsThieves: so if it is true, then that means the lost coins are already priced in
ThickAsThieves: and only downward movement is pani
nubbins`: greenspan_fan: let x=0.99...
ThickAsThieves: how the hell do you leak coins for years though
greenspan_fan: that would make sense, because otherwise people who traded via bitcoin builder would be furious
nubbins`: 10x = 9.99.., ergo 10x-x = 9.99... - .99..., ergo 9x = 9, ergo x = 1
ThickAsThieves: they will be
ThickAsThieves: gox coins = 0 USD
greenspan_fan: that's a good one
nubbins`: nod, my fave
nubbins`: you can do it with infinite series too
nubbins`: can't recall the details
greenspan_fan: not if they're planning to make people whole tho
ThickAsThieves: gox cant make anything whole
ThickAsThieves: theyre done
ThickAsThieves: no plan or rebranding can save them
greenspan_fan: at a 80% discount?
nubbins`: i really regret not selling at $23
the20year: it's like everything else , once you screw the pooch it can't be undone
nubbins`: LEL JK :D
greenspan_fan: assuming they have any money at all (which they might, if they were front running the market all week)
greenspan_fan: they'll be able to cover at least some of the deposits
ThickAsThieves: we'll see i guess
ThickAsThieves: i'm doubtful
greenspan_fan: how many black lotuses would you need to sell to cover 700 000 btc?
nubbins`: "at least some" might as well be "none"
ThickAsThieves: even if someting is sorted it'll take year(s)
nubbins`: greenspan_fan: depends, are you a dealer? :D
Duffer1: is that a MTG ref greenspan fan?
greenspan_fan: I think karpeles should cut off a pinky, at least
ThickAsThieves: are they casacius lotuses?
greenspan_fan: it's the japanese corporate way
nubbins`: TBH i thought he was talking about sports cars
ThickAsThieves: it's the most expensive magic card
Diablo-D3: top 5 stories on hn, with a sixth further down are mtgox
ThickAsThieves: nice car
nubbins`: nod, sexy curves
nubbins`: met a girl who raced a lotus once
greenspan_fan: because HN was one of the first places to hear about bitcoin, and almost none of the people got in on it
nubbins`: haxor gnus
the20year: I *got in* on bitcoin in the first 3 months, didn't do me much good by not sticking with it :D
greenspan_fan: really? did you not have a good graphics card or something?
ozbot: Joint Statement Regarding MtGox | Blockchain.info Team Blog
the20year: Wallet got hacked
ThickAsThieves: people are like krakwho?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 169 @ 0.005 = 0.845 BTC [+] {3}
greenspan_fan: wasn't that a scam fund from that guy who ripped off mircea?
the20year: Went to a bunch of faucets after downloading the client, the ones that were giving 1 to 0.5btc out per day per time you hit the faucet
greenspan_fan: patrick hartnett?
greenspan_fan: oh man, that's rough
greenspan_fan: how'd you get hacked?
the20year: Never did anything with teh wallet, showed up at office one day and the client was open, all coins gone
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 370 @ 0.00086094 = 0.3185 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1192 @ 0.00498438 = 5.9414 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28450 @ 0.00088402 = 25.1504 BTC [+]
the20year: there was some java/ad exploit that took alot of coins from people running XP, and I was one of them, right around the time bitcoin hit like $20 for the first time due to all the silk road press, maybe that was 2011?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 363 @ 0.0008648 = 0.3139 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: well it hit $20 from silk road in 2013 too
ozbot: Pope revolutionizes Vatican by opening finances to scrutiny
greenspan_fan: honestly, I'd be buying right around now anyways
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1229 @ 0.00086544 = 1.0636 BTC [+] {4}
the20year: I would be too , but I have very little personal cash available for btc, but also sadly have a decent bit of BTC from investors to be converted to fiat to buy property
jurov: i'd try to postpone that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 225 @ 0.00086797 = 0.1953 BTC [+] {2}
the20year: Have been
ThickAsThieves: if you use bitcoins your raised you are cheating shareholders
the20year: But we are locked into contracts on two properties
ThickAsThieves: MUST HODL!
greenspan_fan: seriously, I would not be surprised if it's higher than ever in a week
jurov: or you should have insured using mpoe options
greenspan_fan: given how any press seems to push the price up
jurov: oh i forgot mpoe is down :(
the20year: That would have been the better choice, one of the bigger issues has been waiting on havelock to send me the coins, they aren't deposited on a wallet on our side
the20year: Granted I did cash out part of them at $700
ThickAsThieves: hmm i'm just realizing that last i talked to my brother he was using gox as a wallet
ThickAsThieves: i did tell him to get off like a year ago
ThickAsThieves: well last summer
the20year: I have quite a few investors that have lost out quite a bit of coin at gox
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.005 = 0.15 BTC [+]
greenspan_fan: don't worry, I'm sure gox.com is going to be a huge hit
ThickAsThieves: yeah, along with bitfunder.com
jurov: and bitcoin cafe
the20year: I think in between bitfuner and gox, just the inevstors I've talked to have lost 150+btc
ThickAsThieves: maybe they rebrand too, under.com
greenspan_fan: ahahaha
Diablo-D3: top 6 stories on hn are mtgox, 7th rising
greenspan_fan: are there any bitcoin death pools? because I don't think karpeles will have been priced properly yet
dexX7: hn?
dexX7: nvm
greenspan_fan: haxxor newz
greenspan_fan: I am thinking either angry investor puts a hit out w/ the yakuza, or he commits hari kiri. Place your bets.
the20year: You guys see the video of our glorious next purchase of 2 houses on one lot?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12212177 BTC [-]
nubbins`: just had one of those "went downstairs to find a lighter, came across a vial of oil" moments
nubbins` rubs hands together
Vexual: hes speaking literally
nubbins`: vexual knows
Bones_: wow, thought it was just some nasty rumor earlier. I come back and poof
ThickAsThieves: oil is the lube
ThickAsThieves: rubbing hands and cock together
nubbins`: comedials
nubbins`: comedians, even
greenspan_fan: what's the lighter for, then?
ThickAsThieves: the audience
nubbins`: greenspan_fan: to remove the oil from the vial
greenspan_fan: is your lube water-based?
nubbins`: perverts
nubbins`: PK oil
ThickAsThieves raises lit lighter into air "encore!"
jurov: nubbins` gonna make a molotow
jurov: and throw it to gox office
nubbins`: Vexual, have a listen to the album a friend and i recorded: https://atelierbleu.bandcamp.com/album/manicouagan
greenspan_fan: I made a molotov cocktail once.
greenspan_fan: it tasted terrible.
nubbins`: turn up yr bass
jurov: REVOLUTION
Vexual: i listened to some earlier
the20year: pk oil?
Vexual: pretty good, i might need to be in the mood for it
nubbins`: it's music for late nights
Vexual: hard to think while listening :)
nubbins`: heh, yes
ThickAsThieves: music to have on while youre passed out
nubbins`: that too
nubbins`: music to wake up startled to
nubbins`: "music"
ThickAsThieves: music for trees in the woods
nubbins`: i'm being generous
the20year: Bask in the glory of a 385sqft cottage
greenspan_fan: is that enough room to bask?
ThickAsThieves: is it convertible?
the20year: Granted they're throwing in a 2300sf duplex along with everything
dexX7: Bugpowder: where's that from?
Bugpowder: submissions?
ThickAsThieves: how cna this possibly be useful
greenspan_fan: Idk, I am having a great time w/ my array of proxies
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00514814 = 0.278 BTC [+] {2}
bloctoc: It will help government determine the size of the bailout required
nubbins`: this just in, obama bails out gox
ozbot: Another "Successful Banker" Found Dead | Zero Hedge
ThickAsThieves: at least gox has the courtesy to die under $150
greenspan_fan: TO THE MOON!
ozbot: Can you withdraw from Mt.Gox?
ThickAsThieves: someone should start a blog of pornstar deaths
ThickAsThieves: maybe there's a connection
greenspan_fan: man I am going to feel really bad if gox exec actually off themselves
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00518412 = 0.4251 BTC [+] {2}
greenspan_fan: I am picturing it now: suicide note partially obscured by condensation from the frappuchino placed on top
Bones_: I'm thinking more like yakuza as you said
Bones_: Very public
ThickAsThieves: ratpoisonichino
ozbot: Hey Charlie Shrem, was this the good news on the horizon you were talking about? : Bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.000869 = 0.1738 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00518999 = 0.3892 BTC [+]
greenspan_fan: or satashi nakamoto, the real brains behind mt. gox, swoops in to bail everyone out with his million bitcoin stash
ozbot: Andy Booth Sells Gox.com | DomainInvesting.com
ThickAsThieves: On February 21, 2014, Andy Booth was listed as the domain name registrant, according to a historical Whois record.
cazalla: would this resolve as yes if they rebrand http://bitbet.us/bet/751/mtgox-out-of-business-in-2014/
ThickAsThieves: My brother met domain broker Joe Politzer in Singapore who got excited about gox.com and then I said he could try to sell it if he wanted. He called Karpeles and Gox to find out if they wanted it and immediately they expressed pretty strong interest. I’ve asked Mark if it’s ok to publish details (no response as yet).”
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00518999 = 0.3841 BTC [+] {2}
greenspan_fan: don't think mark's going to be responding to anybody
greenspan_fan: the question remains, though, who got the 700 000 btc?
ThickAsThieves: this is who did the deal http://dn.biz/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 22 @ 0.0055 = 0.121 BTC
ThickAsThieves: according to the article*
ozbot: Mt.Gox just proceeded a bunch of JPY withdrawal today : Bitcoin
jurov: hi mircea_popescu, all according to plan?
mircea_popescu: jurov what specifically ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00515 = 1.03 BTC [-]
jurov: gox is done
greenspan_fan: have you heard about mt gox?
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, you missed some drama
mircea_popescu: i just woke up!
dexX7: haha
ThickAsThieves: wake up faster!
Apocalyptic: it's a shitstorm out there
greenspan_fan: this should be like christmas for you
mircea_popescu: so i should wake up for the derpage ?
ThickAsThieves: www.gox.com
asciilifeform: let the man sleep, folks. he sleeps, what, once a week?
mircea_popescu: what is this, derpworld ?
greenspan_fan: a really suspicious slide deck about mt gox going under surfaced
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.0051335 = 0.3491 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: he doesnt need sleep, just to avoid sunlight
greenspan_fan: seems like it was legit; they've essentially gone dark
mircea_popescu: listen, all this is a lot less exciting if YOU KNOW IT WILL HAPPEM
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves now i have to kill you.
mircea_popescu: i just tried to log into twitter as mircea popsicu
asciilifeform: 'for what have i prepared this beautiful golden stake?'
Vexual: bugpowders running gox add on matlab
greenspan_fan: so did you hear about this in advance?
greenspan_fan: it seemed like the btc foundation peopel knew
mircea_popescu: lol good gif
asciilifeform: goes well with that other bouncyball gif
asciilifeform: the one with the dildo
greenspan_fan: given that they all prepared joint statements
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan basically, mtgox demise was decided april 2013, at the secret conference nobody went to.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 75 @ 0.0055 = 0.4125 BTC
mod6: lol @ gif
mircea_popescu: and the fact that the scammer troop has coordinated ballet on the topic is really just a sign of how fucking stupid they are.
greenspan_fan: they had to revise their statements after release
mircea_popescu: point in case.
greenspan_fan: presumably on the advice of lawyers
mircea_popescu: kinda the only reason i like vessenes. he's so fucking dumb.
ThickAsThieves: on the advice of me!
greenspan_fan: wait, you're not a lawyer?
the20year: did the buildabetterburgers take down gox?
Vexual: flee immediately!
mircea_popescu: thickaslawyers ?
ThickAsThieves: lawyersasthieves
mircea_popescu: sas is good...
greenspan_fan: hey man, some of my best friends are thieves
ozbot: Twitter / MagicalGox: Send me 1BTC and I will resolve ...
Bugpowder: dexX7: fake accy
Vexual: Bugpowder, is matlab saying when yet?
ozbot: Bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox offline amid 'insolvency' charges | Internet & Media - CNET News
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder kinda what happens when you delete your posts, you know ? people start the takeover.
Bugpowder: Vexual: Still doing experiments
Bugpowder: haven't tracked it yet
ThickAsThieves: pdf claims 700k btc lost over "years"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it is roughly true.
mircea_popescu: not that that's an excuse for anything.
greenspan_fan: what is interesting, though, is that you might be able to follow the block chain from the earlier transactions
greenspan_fan: I'm betting julian assange did it, to fund his jihad against america
mircea_popescu: it's their nest egg.
greenspan_fan: bitcoin becomes the national currency of ecuador and he flees britain as a citizen
ThickAsThieves: maybe he'll have a co-press relase with snowden
ozbot: Iranians hacked Navy network for four months? Not a surprise. | Ars Technica
greenspan_fan: no man, snowden's satoshi
asciilifeform: tldr: run more winblows, usg
greenspan_fan: he's got his own bitcoins
ThickAsThieves: snowtoshi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10975 BTC [+]
dexX7: there is also this post from wsj earlier: http://archive.is/NLLpV - "According to documents seen by The Wall Street Journal, Tibanne Co., which operates Mt. Gox, is expected to generate a small profit in the fiscal year ending in March from exchange transaction fees. The forecast, however, assumes bitcoin prices well above current levels."
ozbot: Tibanne Co. Ltd.
nubbins`: hiring what, liquidators?
ThickAsThieves: CSS3 needed!
mircea_popescu: forum experts.
greenspan_fan: Ability to comment properly work is important
greenspan_fan: so when's the mpex ipo for gox.com?
nubbins`: still say that pdf is bogus
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2165830363/Peter-Portrait.jpg << seriously, look at this guy. doesn't he look like the 110 iq barrier is a bridge too far ?
ThickAsThieves: an IPO to buy the domain after scammers are done with it?
Vexual: nub, i think it'd be hard to miss that much btc over time
mircea_popescu: wasn't i explaining before how goxshit isn't worth money ?
mircea_popescu: Vexual we knew they were in the red.
greenspan_fan: it was a joke
Vexual: and they knew?
ozbot: MtGox and ancient Bitcoin history - the straight dope. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: time to re-read this.
greenspan_fan: and that guy looks like he's experienced a couple "non-standard deviations"
mircea_popescu: yes vex. they were in the red up until late 2012.
mircea_popescu: i suppose that article may read differently in light of events.
nubbins`: "Successive emperors became the captors of various factions of eunuchs."
nubbins`: the type of shit that'd put House of Cards to shame
Apocalyptic: <greenspan_fan> and that guy looks like he's experienced a couple "non-standard deviations" // heh
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what is house of cards anyway ?
greenspan_fan: did you see the latest season? I'd say it was a contender, even sans eunuchs
mircea_popescu: coupla titters on twitter keep derping about it.
greenspan_fan: also, I think it's supposed to be GNU/eunuchs
mircea_popescu: aaaahahahaha
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: netflix-only television show based on a bbc television show based on a novel. the netflix version centers around u.s. political intrigue, specifically kevin spacey's machinations towards the presidency
greenspan_fan: with significant inspiration from caro's biography of lyndon johnson
nubbins`: worth watching, we swallowed season 2 over about 4 days
nubbins`: lots of intrigue, subterfuge, etc
greenspan_fan: anyone else read that biography?
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: ajhahaha
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you got a twittar ?
nubbins`: greenspan_fan: never read the bio, HoC s2 was great tho
nubbins`: they've been renewed for a third, hey?
ThickAsThieves: i have only the altcoin twatter
greenspan_fan: nubbins I am angry that I'll have to wait for a year, though
mircea_popescu: what was it again ?
greenspan_fan: you must be the only altcoin creator without 10,000 sockpuppets
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 18 @ 0.16230094 = 2.9214 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: @therealaltcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00088332 = 18.5497 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: daww ;(
greenspan_fan: isn't that like the clown from those stephen king novels?
nubbins`: ^ this is the proper way to deal with this issue, not a fucking cloudflare snapshot
nubbins`: what's a snapshot of an exchange website going to do for me?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you actually got that ? or was it a lol ?
Vexual: i wonder if magicdunce will shoot thru? he must have thousands of high res passports
nubbins`: at least make me feel bad
nubbins`: mircea_popescu it's real!
nubbins`: i thought the twitter fail whale was neat
nubbins`: this is next-level
ThickAsThieves: "Interestingly the folks at secondmarket called me today to say that there will be a one week halt on all new BIT purchases and their trading department is no longer taking any new positions."
ThickAsThieves: from a friend of mine
ThickAsThieves: (not trolling)
mircea_popescu: <Vexual> i wonder if magicdunce will shoot thru? he must have thousands of high res passports <<< EPIC
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if 2ndmarket used gox
ThickAsThieves: biglolz!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves they did yes.
mircea_popescu: because they know better.
ThickAsThieves: hahahahaha
mircea_popescu: you know how like a certain fucktarded ceo is making his own stock exchgange ? cause he knows better ?
mircea_popescu: you know how ycombinator isn't hiring BingoBoingo to tell them what's what ?
mircea_popescu: you know how the twinkleloss brothers don't feel like they need to be here ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: that's exactly how second market thinks it knows better than me
mircea_popescu: the common word describing these is, of course, stupidity.
greenspan_fan: you could make your website prettier, at least
Bones_: If everyone was in here, then we wouldn't make as much money?
greenspan_fan: and while you're at it, make your blog free
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan or i could add spikes on my cock, to leave better marks on assholes.
mircea_popescu: either way.
ThickAsThieves: you could lose a cock that way
greenspan_fan: but gox was able to siphon off 700 000 btc because they had javascript and css basically
ThickAsThieves: be careful
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 546 @ 0.00445591 = 2.4329 BTC [-] {20}
ThickAsThieves: @Mircea_Popescu @therealaltcoin Lol even google image can tell its peter
ThickAsThieves: pay google 1000 ATC
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan you have to take into consideration 80+% of that was when btc was < $1
Vexual: still a lot of milkshakes
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if google tweets @me i will sure.
Bugpowder: OK... let's get back to racking these cold wallets
ThickAsThieves: we'll read your findings really hard
Vexual: why .info?
nubbins`: ah, bc.info has edited their statement as well
nubbins`: no more mention of insolvency
greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu but surely you have some pretty sick programmers working for you? idk much about web frontends, so idk if it's bad security
benkay: much drama and lulz today?
Apocalyptic: amateur communication
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.00518998 = 0.2387 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: if you knew benkay ..
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan what do you mean ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00518998 = 0.2284 BTC [+]
greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu presumably if you/your employees could implement a sophisticated exchange (with all the countermeasures in order to ensure continuous operation) you could at least add some css to mpex.co
mircea_popescu: provided i wanted to.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` da fuck is bc.info
ThickAsThieves: cockchain
nubbins`: i abbreviated blockchain.info
nubbins`: kind of forgot that it makes a link that people can click ;(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 765 @ 0.00522621 = 3.9981 BTC [+] {3}
Vexual: i guess bp dont want prtd matleb on a machine that has blockchain
greenspan_fan: at this point idk whether it's positive (as a mark of differentiation) or whether you're losing business because it seems like it's pre-1999
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 134 @ 0.00525893 = 0.7047 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan what business am i losing ?
Vexual: sub 140iq sub 50btc
ozbot: 3,129,573,174.52229 | Next Diff in 598 blocks | Estimated Change: 20.5183% in 3d 7h 2m 4s
mircea_popescu: leading question : how much business is nyse losing by not having a drive-thru presence in most shopping malls ?
Vexual: 12?
mircea_popescu: leading question #2 : what could the concept of "Accredited investor" mean in bitcoin, and how would one go about meaningfully implementing it ?
Apocalyptic: nice analogy mircea
greenspan_fan: I actually bought some options for ibm at wal-mart earlier today, so times are changing
mircea_popescu: pankkake pls to 1000 atc to 1CgNLdNUaXFawURSBuX4xBHv53GhGZ3XuC ty
jurov: greenspan_fan: clearly there's market gap for you to exploit
mircea_popescu: greenspan_ the times are only changing in the sense the us is going under.
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as eternal truths.
mircea_popescu: but yes, as the j man says, nothing keeps you from doing brokerage for any market segment you identify and think you can serve.
greenspan_fan: putting it another way, given your thoughts re: art, you could consider patronizing some pre-autistic teenager with a color palette and a dream
Bones_: greenspan_fan - if anything his website exudes "dude who knows what the fuck he is doing". Not to suck your dick or anything mp but anyway that's how I saw the website
ThickAsThieves: to #2, measured by your bitcoin holdings, no?
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