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copumpkin hugs mircea_popescu
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kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2014#522839 and the next 3 lines, .... looks like mp is running mtgox
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
kakobrekla: or is it mpgox really.
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kakobrekla: no spam
Vexual: sorry
kakobrekla: dont be so apologetic
kakobrekla: say sorry now!
kakobrekla: yes yes more like it
kakobrekla: not the link tho
kakobreklaa: THERE YOU ARE!
mod6: ehlo
Vexual: a?
mircea_popescu: ah here we are back
Vexual: more normal?
asciilifeform: B007, BingoBoingo: i actually had occasion to set up a brand-new ms-dos box just recently.
kakobrekla: yes more normal thanks to my bug report.
Vexual: got the manual no doubt ascii
asciilifeform: Vexual: manual? next, a manual for a knife or fork?
Vexual: real dos has a manual
kakobrekla: i dunno how to use fork manual. anyone got a manual on that?
kakobrekla: meh, ill just put it into automatic mode, it does have my name innit.
mircea_popescu: somalia needs training in using the fork ?
KRS-One: yea
KRS-One: and better
KRS-One: .bait
kakobrekla: no, fork i know, the manual i dont.
KRS-One: her bathing suit came off
B007: asciilifeform: what was it?
kakobrekla: it makes a lot of sense to wear that
mircea_popescu: her bathing suit looks more like earrings
kakobrekla: you just need 2 cups and you can make an exchange
kakobrekla: or cans, to be more exact
mircea_popescu: i wonder how those people advertise it. "all the cramp and discomfort of a bra with none of the protection!"
Vexual: 24 carat excellence
kakobrekla: if i say cups i get reminded of those cups videos taht you dont want to be reminded of
asciilifeform: B007: box controlling some stepper motors. hence single-tasking OS where you can simply execute 'CLI' and kill interrupts, getting 100% deterministic timing with empty loop.
B007: nice
mircea_popescu: 99.x% deterministic timing :D
asciilifeform: 100 - clock jitter.
B007: but wouldn't a microcontroller or real time os make more sense?
asciilifeform: might as well be a microcontroller.
B007: :D
B007: oh man might have to send that to some people
kakobrekla: i thought thats the bing bang
mircea_popescu: coca-mentos, big-bang, bingoboingo, what diff does it make
mircea_popescu: aren't we all worldending cataclysms ?
Vexual: looks like ascii is spoofing gps
mircea_popescu: btw, since we're on the topic : anyone explain the difference between a clism and a cataclysm ?
Vexual: i still think jurov likes in slovenia, so not me
asciilifeform: Vexual: ?
kakobrekla: ok imma start to think people are getting these countries unintentionally wrong
Vexual: you hacked into the coke truck gps ascii
mircea_popescu: slovakia ?
Vexual: slovakistan!
mircea_popescu: no that's in albania.
B007: um clism isn't an english word is it
kakobrekla: North Somalia
mircea_popescu: B007 enema
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my first thought.
Vexual extrudes another hernia
B007: you never make much sense
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Vexual: i don't know shit, when you get to the big water, it's not austalistan anymore
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Vexual: recognise
ozbot: Milkshake with lyrics - YouTube
Vexual: whats happening in the ukraine? i don't trust twitter
BingoBoingo: B007: I challenge you to make more sense than vexual
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Vexual: umpossible
benkay: hey guys thumbs up or thumbs down on gently simmering the covered stock overnight
benkay: i'm failing to estimate evaporation rates on my own
benkay: on one hand covered
benkay: otoh cover has hole and hot
mircea_popescu: Vexual they're becoming independent.
mircea_popescu: benkay nothing can safely burn overnight.
mircea_popescu: if you had a wood fire it'd be safe cause wood runs out.
benkay: it's not burning per se just a big ol' piece of steel with electrons pumped through.
mircea_popescu: even so.
BingoBoingo: benkay: Can you set 140 F as a temperature?
mircea_popescu: ;;google 140 F in K
benkay: i zapped my pidbox :(
gribble: Rafale Xtremjet Skymaster Kingtech K-140F - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiX3dVLU9go>; RC F-15 Turbine Jet Maiden Flight "Kingtech K-140" - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2moHwVW8NM>; K-140 (Kansas highway) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-140_(Kansas_highway)>
benkay: f yeah that's useful there's a jet in the results
benkay: a TOY JET!
mircea_popescu: anyway, low temp like 333k may work i guess.
Vexual: get a crock pot if youre all elecrtons benkay
benkay: that would be the answer to this wouldn't it Vexual
benkay: shit i just got told by Vexual
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this shit is SOP at american unis
mircea_popescu: such lol.
Vexual: patenting anti piracy wont get paid
mircea_popescu: all the kids bought books afair, mostly because it was cheaper to buy the book than to photocopy
mircea_popescu: ~10 or so bux a 500 page book vs 30-40 for photocopying 1k pages.
mircea_popescu: any system in which the printed books cost more than the xerocopies doesn't deserve to exist.
asciilifeform: you can get usable copy via cheap camera, even phone camera, using a stand - a la 'spy minox'
MisterE: how do you "bookmark" a page on git?
MisterE: follow?
Vexual: or get a tuned in printing press that will print onto shitty paper
benkay: bahaha nope.
MisterE: watch?
benkay: i kind of think fuck social vcs, but i dasn't really take that stance in america
Vexual: be the textbook
mircea_popescu: what are social vcs ?
Vexual: i was somewhere else for special relativity
mircea_popescu: nice girl ?
Vexual: fuck if im explaining that for $80/hr
asciilifeform: was in a uni bookstore not long ago. there are books costing 150-200 usd
mircea_popescu: i think a bitbel prize for computing may be in order for whoever predicts a vexual next line.
asciilifeform: they also have a tradition of re-issuing the same text year after year, with renumbered exercises
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asciilifeform: so students can't use last year's book.
mircea_popescu: ok thats just fucking idiotic.
B007: I did't buy any books this semester
mircea_popescu: someone pays money to be in the class of people doing this ? why the fuck already.
asciilifeform: one fellow around here published cross-references that made an old set of exercises usable, he was expelled, if i recall.
B007: lol
benkay: they're widely available on the internet.
mircea_popescu: beyond scandalous.
benkay: anyways hey guys checkout these sweet mini jets: http://www.bvmjets.com/Pages/XtremeJets/F16%206.75.htm
benkay: looks like effective combat mini drones are available at about 2k
benkay: to civilians no less!
asciilifeform: benkay: flight time = ?
benkay: i have yet to identify the powerplant, yet, but many pages mention fuel tanks
benkay: oh horrible
benkay: but at least the cost of the microdrones necessary to liberate cascadia's well priced now
benkay: ;)
benkay: ah, 3k
mircea_popescu: "I met Richard Stallman (RMS) once. Actually sat down to dinner with him at the same table but I didn’t realize who he was. He was poorly dressed, unkempt, needed a shower, and his conversation was both confused and confusing. I later learned that he was always that way. When he got up as the speaker for that afternoon, I said to myself, “Huh? Who is this guy that he’s being allowed to speak dressed like that?”
mircea_popescu: After about five minutes, it finally dawned on me that this was the guy behind the GNU/GPL movement but he spoke like an insane, raving mad man. After about half an hour of listening, I came to the conclusion that he fits the stereotype of “prophet” – like those found in the Bible – only he’s got the software angle.
mircea_popescu: Ignore that lunatic. He’s completely nuts."
mircea_popescu: benkay i wish those guys ipo'd in btc ;/
benkay: who ipo which what?
mircea_popescu: the xtremejets ppl.
benkay: the jets dudes?
asciilifeform: when i read these folks, i wonder if they'd care for stallman if he were washed & dressed
asciilifeform: or if they'll just take the cheapest shot available
benkay: what is the damn power plant!
BingoBoingo: I predict Vexual next says Bullshit because he loves the shit of Bulls over the shit of cows
Vexual: i call spaniards spaniards
mircea_popescu: yrah the jet dudes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think he is lucky that he's unkempt, otherwise i'd be reading all over the internet how he's a pedophile pornographer gypsy guy.
benkay: oh man they're doing cool stuff too mircea_popescu http://www.bvmjets.com/tips/sabre_jet_news.htm
mircea_popescu: i just want a model jet companee ;/
benkay: haha
asciilifeform: diy war machine ought to be regarded as disposable. so solid rocket engine would make the most practical sense.
benkay: i gotta guy to introduce you to
asciilifeform: before long, you have a 'strela.'
benkay: asciilifeform: i'm down with that trajectory of development.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most flights would be interdiction.
mircea_popescu: nondisposable have their utility.
Vexual: yes
benkay: yeah keep 20 or 30 of the nice ones around
BingoBoingo: Yeah, If I made a DIY airforce I dunno if I would want a non-drone craft more complicated than an F-16
benkay: try not to break 'em too often
Vexual: turbo polystyrene is the best model jet
mircea_popescu: benkay what's the total kinetic mommentum you expect could be packed in something like http://www.bvmjets.com/images/XtremeJets/F16/missiles.jpg ?
mircea_popescu: straight-fired.
Vexual: the hobby that keeps you outta guitmo
benkay: you want 2 vehicle classes, at a broad sweep: disposables to take stuff out (poor man's guided missle) and fancy ones (comms, coordination, w/e)
BingoBoingo: I dunno I think a quilted flourocarbon winged biplane could be nice
mircea_popescu: benkay "interdiction, picking up chicks"
benkay: interdiction
BingoBoingo: benkay: Flip the uses. Disposables for command and fancy for destruction
benkay: interdicktion
Vexual: who lives on a coast? im working on a robot boat
benkay: BingoBoingo: surewhynot
benkay: they're cheap enough that one might be able to test different strategies
benkay: i actually think coordination of the cheap ones is an emergent thing
benkay: "go over there and ruin anything moving till you run out of juice"
benkay: or smash yourselves into it w/e
Mats_cd03: anyone here live in chicago
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: No civilized person lives in that wasteland
benkay: mircea_popescu: robots on everything with thrust vectoring
Mats_cd03: im about to move there for a job
asciilifeform: swarms.
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 actually some people do yea
asciilifeform: pocket-sized flyers, forming phased-array antennae
BingoBoingo: benkay: I know two classmates who became fighterpilots. At least one wants to become a cargo pilot because the planes are more comfy.
benkay: ^^
benkay: asciilifeform gets it
benkay: fuck actual humans in planes BingoBoingo their time has come and gone
Vexual: radar at the edge of space?
benkay: war is for robots now
asciilifeform: let's see with what they will shoot a swarm.
mircea_popescu: sex too.
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BingoBoingo: benkay: Human pilots will continue to be a thing as long as Prisoners of war take resources to hold
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform emp, large nets, spray paint...
asciilifeform: all great. except that you only need one 'bee' up the tailpipe.
BingoBoingo: If we want EMP warfare, why power at all and not aliminium filings?
asciilifeform: pill against emp is to use line-of-sight optical links between the 'bees'
asciilifeform: instead of radio
asciilifeform: sealed conductive chassis (nobody cancelled Greene's theorem)
BingoBoingo: (aliminium over aluminium because lithium and aluminum in alloy melts real nice. as per Kosovo)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the amount of aiming the light beam requires makes your ships still vulnerable to emp
asciilifeform: better still, trimethyl aluminum.
mircea_popescu: cause computors.
asciilifeform: greene's theorem.
mircea_popescu: even so.
mircea_popescu: ungrounded cage will still generate field.
asciilifeform: conductor in a metal shell, zero induced electric field inside
asciilifeform: regardless of flux
asciilifeform: on the outside.
mircea_popescu: isn'tthat only true of spherical shell ?
asciilifeform: although the schoolbook typically starts with a spherical shell as example
mircea_popescu: this seems counterintuitive to me.
mircea_popescu: so if i have a shell in the shape of two connected spheres, of different sizes, i can't put an instrument inside that will tell me whether the small or the big sphere is closer to the nuclear blast ?
Vexual: subs talk through oceans and the earth with very long waves
asciilifeform: Vexual: towed antenna.
Vexual: cant emp that shit
asciilifeform: (one can laugh at the implementation, but not the physics.)
asciilifeform: incidentally, emp weapon other than traditional nuke is more or less a joke
asciilifeform: during 'desert storm' u.s. popped an emp bomb above an iraqi radio station
Vexual: really?
asciilifeform: knocking it out for several hours (they had to change an amp)
Vexual: active emp?
asciilifeform: if they had used a classical bomb of the same weight, they could have levelled it.
Vexual: nukes dont joke
asciilifeform: explosively-pumped vircator.
B007: link to a story about the emp?
Vexual: get a ham license b007
asciilifeform: B007: dig it up yourself
asciilifeform: source was a russian report
asciilifeform: u.s. claimed that they zapped the entire iraqi power grid with emp, a transparently laughable tale
BingoBoingo: Rousey is a fucking cut of the first degree
asciilifeform: the reason why it is so easy to produce massive emp with nuke is, charged particles zinging around in van allen belt.
asciilifeform: turn the planet's magnetosphere into a dynamo.
KRS-One: heh cool
Vexual: nukes arent cool
asciilifeform: the notion of a useful non-nuclear emp weapon is transparent grantsmanship
asciilifeform: why? do a gedankenexperiment
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asciilifeform: take a traditional bomb, of any practical size you prefer
asciilifeform: and picture 100% of the chemical energy converted into a radio emission of whichever type you prefer.
asciilifeform: (actual vircator or other known mechanisms gives nothing close to 100%)
asciilifeform: regardless of how this emanation is aimed, nobody cancelled inverse-square law.
BingoBoingo: To the best of my knowledge unuseful non-nuclear emp weapons are a thing, but vastly surpassed by non-nuclear, non-emp weapons that simply scatter conductive fibers.
ozbot: Nicki Minaj - Starships (Explicit) - YouTube
asciilifeform: the one and only such item of some actual military use is a (current) russian anti-tank shell that detonates at an approach of ~1m
asciilifeform: fired in a two-parter - emp shell to blind sensors, classical shell follows behind.
asciilifeform: but, much as any general would love 'death ray', there is no death ray.
BingoBoingo: The US still has airborne cluster munitions that are deigned for used against power substations which by design litter the area with aliminum and carboin fillaments.
chatquack: trippy!
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if this ever becomes popular, conductors will be insulated.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This was first used against Serbia during the operations to "free" "Kosovo"
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BingoBoingo: At the time popular press was informed these were EMP weapons.
chatquack: 3 man watter ballon launcher + metal chain
chatquack: water**
asciilifeform: the cheapest weapon is the fictional one.
BingoBoingo: Later declassification revealed there were merely littering weapons
ozbot: BLU-114/B "Soft-Bomb" - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform: u.s. national sport, zapping defenceless savages from a safe distance.
asciilifeform: but a more beloved, more lucrative national sport - graft.
chatquack: fun read BingoBoingo
ozbot: Nicki Minaj - Pound The Alarm (Explicit) - YouTube
chatquack: FTA: The filaments are only a few hundredths of an inch thick and can float in the air like a dense cloud.
chatquack: Neat!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ever since Abe I don't think any 'Murican would dispute graft as the greatest 'Murican sport
KRS-One: Vexual: remember what kakobrekla said about pasting links..
Vexual: that one doesnt cont
KRS-One: Why?
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remarkably clever the trashbin faraday cage.
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mircea_popescu: chatquack and who might you be ?
chatquack: Hmmm... Deep question...
mircea_popescu: just give the elevator speech.
chatquack is a lover of things.
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58-atNakMWw << goat finally built his exchange.
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chatquack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevator_pitch *giggles* I've never heard of that before.
ozbot: Elevator pitch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Would be a shame if a stiff milking gave goat the MRSA
chatquack: Anywho. I got intrested in bitcoin last ~april and have been consumed by it (along with any crypto). I'm a computer junky who got sick and tired of working on computers. Much better as a hobby for me right now. I found a recent love for auto detailing and I am a coinchat exile. =D
mircea_popescu: so welcome
chatquack: I also love beer.
chatquack: Thanks!
ozbot: Car Wash Song - YouTube
mircea_popescu: wait, you're not bitcoinpete are you ?
chatquack: no sir
mircea_popescu: that makes two of you car freaks
chatquack: Oh ya?
BingoBoingo: I can vouch that chatquack and bitcoinpete are different.
mircea_popescu: maybe we end up with the bitcoin-assets hotrods club
chatquack: Does someone in here love optimum no rinse?
Vexual: im saving up for a model a
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chatquack: (name drop) also, I've bs'd with BingoBoingo for a few months now.
Vexual: for those of you that don't know the jive, thats two carburettors and an overdrive
BingoBoingo: I'm finally coing to chop my emssions system to bits with a sawzall next week and hope it wasn't the EGR valve
chatquack: ~working at the car wash ya~
chatquack turns it up.
mircea_popescu: they still use carburetors ?!
Vexual: in '38 they did
B007: i wish i had a car....fuck
ozbot: HD_Hot Rod Race_Jimmy Dolan_Lyrics 1951 - YouTube
mircea_popescu: B007 some people do but mostly the car is not for fuck.
Vexual: carburettor is emp resistant
ozbot: Futurama carwash song - YouTube
chatquack jams out
B007: mircea_popescu: now that is funny
chatquack: Vexual, wouldn't the ignition coil still be a prob?
ozbot: Why I think RMS is a fanatic, and why that matters.
mircea_popescu: check out extra-pissed off eric raymond
chatquack: Unless you were running mechanacily injected diesel.
chatquack: The recharging system would be fried too.
Vexual: i didnt say proof
chatquack runs to the hills and dons his tinfoil hat.
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Vexual: but your pump will pump
chatquack: it should right?
Vexual: yep way past the point the block is hot enough to cook you from the back seat
chatquack: If your ignition coil on a gas engine goes out, you'd lose spark though I think.
Vexual: it might splutter while its happening
chatquack: diesel is good to go without spark, thanks to compression. (I think)
chatquack: Oh oh.. If the chamber is still hot enough to combust gas?
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BingoBoingo: Diesel still needs glow (hot) plugs
chatquack: Not once the chambers are hot.
chatquack: You can run diesel off of compression alone.
BingoBoingo: Yoiu still need some heat chatquack
chatquack: I don't know if it's the same for gas.
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chatquack: Ah yes... Starting it cold would be a prob.
chatquack: But if an emp hit while it was running, an older diesel engine would continue running.
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chatquack: A mechanical injector pump is a nifty machine.
BingoBoingo: Most older gasoline engines would continue running as well.
BingoBoingo: EMP's negative effects generally appear in relation to the length of the recieving wire.
chatquack: I think even the older gas ones would still rely on their ignition coil to build power to feed the spark plugs.
chatquack: And an ignition coil is a big nast coil. It would probably fuse and short from a local emp.
ozbot: Franz Ferdinand - Jacqueline - YouTube
chatquack: nast = nasty
chatquack: That's a worrysum photo.
chatquack: worrysome?**
BingoBoingo: It's always better on holliday
BingoBoingo: So much better on holliday
Vexual: fucking webjet
chatquack bops around
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chatquack: ~That's why we only work when, we neeeeeed the money~
BingoBoingo: McMann is fired.
chatquack: Send him the bill.
BingoBoingo: chatquack: Her
mircea_popescu: @cukeking @CharlieShrem How exciting. Where will the bitcoin innovation end?
mircea_popescu: i love it when people are their own parodies.
KRS-One: .bait
BingoBoingo: I promise, I will always be the best parody of myself.
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
ozbot: Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out - YouTube
BingoBoingo: Huh, my IRL domain's hosting just lapsed.
BingoBoingo: And I really dun care.
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mircea_popescu: on yer blog ?!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The firstnamelastname.net blog yeah.
BingoBoingo: Apparently it actually happened a few weeks ago, but fuck it.
BingoBoingo: I care little though, firstnamelastname@firstnamelastname.net has no WOT. BingoBoingo has some WOT though.
ozbot: Franz Ferdinand - Darts Of Pleasure - YouTube
ozbot: Modest Mouse - Dashboard - YouTube
ozbot: Poo Hammer — YOURLS
chatquack: Wow, ozbot... You are on top of things.
KRS-One: He's awesome
KRS-One: .bait
KRS-One: see
BingoBoingo: I had to think a while
ozbot: Modest Mouse - Ocean Breathes Salty - YouTube
chatquack: oh man...
BingoBoingo: Your sould
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chatquack: I don't think I've seen this mm video.
chatquack: ~I had to think a while~
ozbot: Modest Mouse - The Whale Song - YouTube
chatquack: This...
chatquack: fuck man. I'm going to play this one for my neighbors.
chatquack: ~I guess I'm a scout, so I should find a way out, so everyone can find a way out~
chatquack: Brings tears.
chatquack: We're all stuck on this crazy marble.
BingoBoingo: chatquack: I know your weakness
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BingoBoingo: SO everyone can find a way out
chatquack rocks back'n forth
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chatquack: ~I know I was a scout, I should've found a way out. So everyone could find a way out!!!~
ozbot: 14. Talkin' Shit About a Pretty Sunset - YouTube
chatquack: ooooooooooooooooooo nooose
chatquack: tied myself in, tied myself too tight
BingoBoingo: tskt-ka tsk-ka
BingoBoingo: Well he just drove off sometime slife's ok
chatquack: ha, my first album
chatquack does the cockroach
chatquack: I think I'm having an alcholic moment.
ozbot: Modest Mouse - King Rat - YouTube
chatquack: I'm going to have to let talin' shit finish first.
BingoBoingo: Well, niggers.txt
chatquack: ohgoddamnnit
chatquack: Weeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllll
chatquack plays the air violin
BingoBoingo: Deep water, Deep water senseless deny
BingoBoingo: I went down like a rag doll
chatquack: *bops around more*
chatquack: *air horn*
chatquack: I've never seen such a divese croud then at a Modest Mouse show.
mircea_popescu: lol wasn't that nubbins' favourite band ?
chatquack: Senseless denial**
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe?
BingoBoingo: Prolly
chatquack goes to renew his lease
BingoBoingo: Imma go take a walk.
BingoBoingo: If it takes more than two hours I fail by Bitcoin fitness test.
chatquack: oh boy
chatquack then begins to wonder what the 145992 is all about.
mircea_popescu: bloctoc all done now thanks. you can go back to #eulora :p
bloctoc: thanks mp, maybe I'll head over and make it look crowded.
bloctoc: how much can my artistic sister make building useless things in eulora? any benchmarks yet?
chetty: no useless stuff
bloctoc: I don't wish to belabor the point, but I recall a conversation long ago about flying horses.
bloctoc: never mind I'd find a flying horse to be useful.
chetty: flying houses? now thats an idea
bloctoc: I already thought of flying houses
bloctoc: the logistics would never work because of wall sockets.
bloctoc: and plumbing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.003066 = 0.1686 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: bloctoc no specific benchmarks yet, but there will be
mircea_popescu: and maybe we can have wifi water ? like wafi.
chatquack: H2O.11g
bloctoc: rain just got rebranded
bloctoc: rain 2.0 wireless
chatquack: H2O.0?
chatquack: *drops the mic* (and gets another drink) *beer
mircea_popescu: lol I DISRUPTED RAIN
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 119 @ 0.00462327 = 0.5502 BTC [+] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.117 = 0.819 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "If all of this seems like a great deal of trouble, think what's at stake. We are faced with the most evil enemy mankind has known in his long climb from the swamp to the stars. There can be no security anywhere in the free world if there is no fiscal and economic stability within the United States. Those who ask us to trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state are architects of a policy of accommodati
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.118 = 0.236 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Many Americans today, just as they did 200 years ago, feel burdened, stifled, and sometimes even oppressed by government that has grown too large, too bureaucratic, too wasteful, too unresponsive, too uncaring about people and their problems. I believe we can embark on a new age of reform in this country and an era of national renewal, an era that will reorder the relationship between citizen and government."
mircea_popescu: dude i could quote reagan for the rest of the day.
mircea_popescu: he needs to be read more.
chatquack gets ready to "do the cockroach".
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00015918 = 0.1592 BTC [+] {7}
chatquack: ~I was in heaven, I was in hell. Believe in neither, but fear them as well; This one's a doctor, this one's a lawyer, THIS ONE'S A CASH FIEND TAKING YOUR MONEY!~
B007: r & r -- Ronald Reagon
chatquack: Ronald Raygun?
chatquack: pew pew
chatquack: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
KRS-One ducks
KRS-One: .bait
chatquack: What are thoes tubes?
chatquack: Dry'r ducting?
chatquack: bbbl love u
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00083509 = 13.9878 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.0201705 = 0.4034 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 922 @ 0.003066 = 2.8269 BTC [+]
ozbot: Truckers Atlas - Modest Mouse - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.003068 = 0.1718 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00479957 = 0.48 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49797989 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00487441 = 0.4874 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.003068 = 0.1964 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49699959 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 92 @ 0.00489999 = 0.4508 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00084022 = 4.5372 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11200033 BTC [-]
chatquack: ~the origans of the mud shar are as follows...~
chatquack: ~There's a motel in Seattle, Washington, called the Edgewater Inn . . . The Edgewater Inn is built out on a pier . . . so that means that when you look out your window you don't see any dirt, it's . . . got a bay or something out in your backyard . . .~
chatquack: muuuudddddshhhhaaarrrk
chatquack: my mind drifts back...
chatquack: ~ . . . to a meeting, a chance meeting in the Chicago O'Hare Airport . . .~
chatquack: ~Where the members of The Vanilla Fudge told Don Preston about a home movie they made at the Edgewater Inn . . . with a mud shark!~
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.062 = 0.124 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: this is pretty epic. 3rd world problems.
chatquack: FTA: I told him that my “ boyfriend “ took huge amout of money almost everytime for different reasons……mom’s operation, someone’s cancer…….lots of reasons.
chatquack: sounds like a pimp
chatquack: in all the wrong ways
chatquack: ~What kind of girl do you think we are?~
B007: "he could gift me lots of deseases"
mircea_popescu: it sounds very africa-ish to me.
mircea_popescu: seriously, those people never heard of a wake-up service ?
davout: wtf is up with the price
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 638.92, Best ask: 639.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.83000, Last trade: 638.91, 24 hour volume: 24427.22237949, 24 hour low: 569.1, 24 hour high: 646.0, 24 hour vwap: 607.335388949
davout: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.002 / 0.002 / 0.002 (450 shares, 0.90 BTC), 7D: 0.002 / 0.0021717 / 0.00226762 (2908 shares, 6.32 BTC), 30D: 0.00166114 / 0.001845 / 0.00226762 (16570 shares, 30.57 BTC)
davout: i go to bed 420 eur/btc
davout: i get up 500
B007: r u rich now?
mircea_popescu: i r guess he muyst be
davout: B007: i was rich before you knew how to spell "bitcoin"
chatquack: oh snap
B007: unlikely
mircea_popescu: so prices move while you sleep. welcome to the insomniac side.
davout: is there some mtgox-related news or whatever
davout: looks like not heh
mircea_popescu: not particularly. they're going to come back monday they say.
mircea_popescu: may be that they've found a sucker, but that story'll end if i find him too.
davout: lol
mircea_popescu: mtgox living on the edge dun dun dun
chatquack: fastest btc/usd rise e v a h
mircea_popescu: suckerseek, a bitcoin service.
davout: chatquack: not rly
KRS-One: lol
chatquack: m a y be ? ? ?
KRS-One: not close
chatquack: probably not thought, trust has been lost
davout: mircea_popescu: you forgot the "powered by btcjam"
chatquack: ~mud shark~
chatquack: ~oh you can hear the steam baby...~
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.003049 = 0.1707 BTC [-]
chatquack: ~steam roller~
chatquack: ~hemroids, talk'n about your hemroids, baby~
ozbot: FRANK ZAPPA LYRICS - Latex Solar Beef
chatquack: ~All groupies must bow down, in the sacrad presense of the latax solar beef~
chatquack: sacred**
chatquack: *que willie the pimp*
davout: chatquack: playing now
chatquack: ~real futuristic, I dig the fins.~
chatquack: Life Wastes AndyHardy
chatquack: ~Ooooh! Anything for you, my most seductive, seclusive... pop star of a man... picture this if you can: b jobs! knotted nylons! bamboo canes! three unreleased recordings of Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young fighting in the dressing-room of the Fillmore East! Why, one enchilada wrapped with pickle sauce shoved up and down in between a donkey's legs until he can't it stand anymore! All this
chatquack: and more, Howie! Including! an electric cooled pony harness, with fuel injection... fuel injection... fuel injection...~
KRS-One: Crosby, Stills, Nash: southern cross
ozbot: Southern Cross with lyrics - Crosby, Stills, and Nash - YouTube
chatquack: ~Well, I know when I'm licked... All over~
mircea_popescu: davout :p
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.11200023 = 1.12 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.003055 = 0.1833 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
chatquack: so RENT many curency
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.1135 = 1.7025 BTC [+] {3}
Guest24301: do we have a new bot in here?
chatquack: so test zoom drunkenness'
chatquack: text**
chatquack turns it over to Guest24301
chatquack: kernips, for moisture.
chatquack: ~trembling like a penguin, when the battey fails.
chatquack: g'night/morn'n -assets
chatquack: I will now leave you goodby.
KRS-One: i need some bait
KRS-One: .bait
KRS-One: rawr
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11759899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00085119 = 3.6176 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 628 @ 0.00015934 = 0.1001 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00306792 = 0.1657 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 217 @ 0.003068 = 0.6658 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.003068 = 0.3221 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 256 @ 0.00308999 = 0.791 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 651 @ 0.002 = 1.302 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 534 @ 0.00082093 = 0.4384 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 244 @ 0.00309 = 0.754 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00310979 = 0.3141 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00312 = 0.1248 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 940 @ 0.00313296 = 2.945 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.003133 = 0.1347 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00085493 = 4.6594 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 255 @ 0.003133 = 0.7989 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11199999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11199999 = 0.224 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 243 @ 0.0031 = 0.7533 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 116 @ 0.00313 = 0.3631 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 324 @ 0.00313143 = 1.0146 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2074 @ 0.003133 = 6.4978 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 146 @ 0.003138 = 0.4581 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: The Invisible Things Lab's blog: The Linux Security Circus: On GUI isolation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.48032503 = 3.8426 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: new webisite is up, needs some small tweaks, but much better than prior http://www.neo-bee.com/en/
ThickAsThieves: opening is tomorrow
KRS-One: nice
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1143 @ 0.00315698 = 3.6084 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 579 @ 0.00318999 = 1.847 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 589 @ 0.00319 = 1.8789 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11199995 = 0.56 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: as far as I know, Windows has the same issue, and a lot of software has to work around it - especially since servers also have GUIs
ozbot: Neo :: Accepting Bitcoins
caustiq: just picked up 3btc worth of neo&bee after watching it for awhile
caustiq: hope they spread virally throughout EU
caustiq: topple the banking cabal
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1027 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 617 @ 0.00319 = 1.9682 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pankkake afaik win7 tried some locking
mircea_popescu: not that it did anything
goxtakeover: Hi. We have started an initiative to rescue MtGox. If you interested, visit www.mtgoxtakeover.com
pankkake: I was told you can run windows servers without guis now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 398 @ 0.00319499 = 1.2716 BTC [+] {5}
pankkake: I hope it involves pitchforks
mircea_popescu: goxtakeover start by introducing yourself and drop the spurious "we"
pankkake: oh, right, just donations
mircea_popescu: weaboos are not "we".
ThickAsThieves: lol goxscamover
goxtakeover: <mircea_popescu> - this can be read on the website
mircea_popescu: but i am not reading your website now am i
ThickAsThieves: the site essentially says "send you coins" in not many more words
ThickAsThieves: send us*
ThickAsThieves: either way
caustiq: that sounds sketchy
ThickAsThieves: most scams do
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49899997 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i suppose i;m gonna end up having to write a post about introductions. apparently it's completely lost on peeps that it makes absolutely zero sense to just start sputtering stuff as a complete unknown.
pankkake: http://i.imgur.com/hkO5nPE.jpg more goatse than vagina
KRS-One: ah goatse..timeless.
mircea_popescu: actually, that's like cyprus' largest circulation newspaper
mircea_popescu: like 20k or something
ThickAsThieves: it's in like 3 papers at least
pankkake: and it's open, so not wasted coverage!
pankkake: or opening tomorrow I guess
mircea_popescu: what's it selling again ?
ThickAsThieves: bitcoin financial services
ThickAsThieves: biggest probly being the Bee network
mircea_popescu: but specifically.
mircea_popescu: guy reads newspaper, does what ?
ThickAsThieves: a merchant would sign up to accept Bee for cheaper payment proc
ThickAsThieves: a user would open an account to get a card
ThickAsThieves: wallet service in one light
ThickAsThieves: will also offer euro-pegged accounts
ThickAsThieves: doesnt seem to be on offer for opening
mircea_popescu: so basically coinbase ?
mircea_popescu: but with store card ?
ThickAsThieves: but positioning itself like a bank
mircea_popescu: o look at that, wikipedia has meanwhile caught on that the people still left editing there are mostly paid marketeers.
ThickAsThieves: they are targeting Bank of Cyprus pretty directly
mircea_popescu: aahaha til boc is ~1/3 s.mpoe
ThickAsThieves: Cyprus is a small place
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2708 @ 0.00085192 = 2.307 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1100 @ 0.00085743 = 0.9432 BTC [+] {6}
mircea_popescu: yeah i never realised just how small i guess.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 621.38, Best ask: 622.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.62000, Last trade: 622.0, 24 hour volume: 26392.18547313, 24 hour low: 571.19, 24 hour high: 646.0, 24 hour vwap: 610.946532288
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.00085192 * 610.9
gribble: 0.520437928
mircea_popescu: in fairness it's more like 2/3 s.mpoe
mircea_popescu: apparently i got beaten to shit this quarter.
ThickAsThieves: don't let anyone ever say mp wasn't fair!
mircea_popescu: o january 1.2 bn mkt cap, where art thou!
ThickAsThieves: need to start more mmo clans
mircea_popescu: there should be a forbes list for bitcoin, derping about hao mp lost most of his wealth this quarter and is nao desperate!!1
Duffer1_: i'm guessing april..ish MP ^.^
mircea_popescu: i guess if i add up the various bitcoin guilds in games we get just about a circulation
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin in Forbes' Top 100 Billionaires list
ThickAsThieves: someone made a plugin for WoW
ThickAsThieves: to transfer btc
pankkake: so you can sell stuff ingame for btc?
mircea_popescu: course wow is such inflation
pankkake: cool! but, does it have some kind of escrow?
mircea_popescu: pankkake notrly.
mircea_popescu: why ? wow gold is worthless anyway
mircea_popescu: if op won't just send fuck them, plenty others.
pankkake: aren't chinese slaves farming it? it must be worth something
mircea_popescu: there's trillions of the stuff lying around.
mircea_popescu: pankkake buyer's market tho.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.062695 = 0.1881 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0627 = 0.4389 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.003194 = 0.297 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.0032 = 0.1056 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 360 @ 0.0032 = 1.152 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00085493 = 4.6166 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.0032 = 0.2944 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.10513226 = 0.4205 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00320342 = 0.2883 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06279 = 0.1884 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00310104 = 0.6202 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.06279999 = 1.1932 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06279999 = 0.1256 BTC [+]
ozbot: 3,129,573,174.52229 | Next Diff in 885 blocks | Estimated Change: 18.8556% in 4d 23h 39m 8s
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves check out this shit https://app.sponsoredtweets.com/tweeters
mircea_popescu: i bet you that if you hire any selection of them you want to tweet some muzak or w/e you will sell less units than dollars spent ?
pankkake: finally, being a celebrity pays off
pankkake: lol some are cheap
assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1652087/plain/)
BingoBoingo: I have just lost my faith in Bob Villa
mircea_popescu: there's jose canseco in there which is why i linked him
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.0031184 = 0.3306 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Jose Canseco is supposed to be cheap and trashy nowadays though.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 701 @ 0.00315524 = 2.2118 BTC [+] {13}
Bugpowder: So who gave me op in mtgox-chat?
pankkake: perhaps because of the splits?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4850005 = 0.97 BTC [-] {2}
Bugpowder: I just joined again and still have it?
Bugpowder: I feel so powerful.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 799 @ 0.00321636 = 2.5699 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: time for an opban war
mircea_popescu: "Former reality TV star and model."
mircea_popescu: holy shit that's low.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.00305 = 0.4057 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: "Famous For: Has been in the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue for 8 consecutive years!"
mircea_popescu: Bio: Supermodel.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00305 = 0.1007 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.4802004 = 2.401 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: i wonder what a "submodel" is then
mircea_popescu: cause srsly... not even a cover ? not even a decade ago ? any 16yo can make the cover ffs.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1011 @ 0.0032193 = 3.2547 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.4899966 = 1.47 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 370 @ 0.00305053 = 1.1287 BTC [-] {5}
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> there's jose canseco in there which is why i linked him /// lol this is one ugly link...ick
mircea_popescu: note that i don't really know what the guy is supposed to be
mircea_popescu: rapper ?
ThickAsThieves: was a good slugger (baseball)
ThickAsThieves: now he's a reality derp
ThickAsThieves: more like former reality show derp
BingoBoingo: Yeah, he was busted for steroids before that was expected of people who hit baseballs like him.
mircea_popescu: btw, people who are for legalisation : sports dope too ?
mircea_popescu: cause it's the perfect examplke of why i'm against. if it's legal then it's mandatory, cause if you can you must.
mircea_popescu: soon enough the things competing in sports look about as human as the things competing in special olympics
mircea_popescu: we have two sets of special olympics : for the chemically imbalanced type 1 and for the chemically imbalanced type 2.
ThickAsThieves: this doesnt make sense to me
mircea_popescu: specifically ?
ThickAsThieves: a drug can be illegal but not allowed in a sport
ThickAsThieves: i mena legal
mircea_popescu: isn't it self-defeating to be pro legalisation in society but not in sport ?
mircea_popescu: it's either good or bad.
ThickAsThieves: also makes no sense
mircea_popescu: now this i gotta hear.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean no ?
ThickAsThieves: it's not a matter of good or bad
mircea_popescu: so on what grounds can you allow people to X but not athletes ?
ThickAsThieves: conflict of values must always be managed in a collective effort
ThickAsThieves: the grounds that it's my league and fuck you
mircea_popescu: so then i hardly see what argument you have against the usg.
mircea_popescu: it's their league and fuck you.
ThickAsThieves: league is voluntary
mircea_popescu: so is us.
ThickAsThieves: ont play the sport if you wanna do that drug
mircea_popescu: you dun like it split.
mircea_popescu: so then you basically got nothing.
ThickAsThieves: both can be true is all
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00305 = 0.1312 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: drugs legal in law but not in clubs
mircea_popescu: but if you support them being illegal in clubs, you really have no grounds to oppose them being generally illegal.
mircea_popescu: same exact arguments will be brought.
mircea_popescu: "o, club trying to forbid drugs is only causing clashes at the gate"
ThickAsThieves: lol you apply this type of logic to all things?
mircea_popescu: it's what logic is for.
mircea_popescu: who invented "types" of logic anyway
ThickAsThieves: i cna smoke a cigarette in my own terms, but when i have to mix the values of others i must compromise
mircea_popescu: what values bs.
ThickAsThieves: well there are two types of logic
mircea_popescu: we're not discussing values here.
ThickAsThieves: 1 that is actually logic, and one that pretends
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so there's logic and then there's derpage. we agree.
chetty: clubs in the sports sense are 'public accommodations' , so what they gonna do, exclude blacks and gays too?
mircea_popescu: chetty no, only X, not Y. because type of logic.
chetty: that logic makes my head hurt
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2066 @ 0.00321837 = 6.6492 BTC [+] {5}
BingoBoingo: The sports dope arms race has a lulzy endgame though. Castrations because natural hormones aren't as good as the sports dope versions. Eventually an equilibrium occurs where either the people competing at the highest level have testacles or not.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm done for today! catch y
mircea_popescu: all tomorrow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0032 = 0.64 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: there could also be safety arguments in sports
ThickAsThieves: to not allow drug use
ThickAsThieves: endangering your teammates etc
BingoBoingo: Probably depends on the sport and the drug.
ThickAsThieves: i dont see why drugs cant be legal in home but diaallowed in organizations that choose too
ThickAsThieves: it's not like drugs are a basic human right or some shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 546 @ 0.00323988 = 1.769 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: Baseball would probably be better if they just let leaded coffee back into the clubhouse instead of going through this pretense http://www.baseballnation.com/2012/6/29/3104332/is-there-an-adhd-epidemic-in-major-league-baseball
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 100 @ 0.00311511 = 0.3115 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1070 @ 0.00323667 = 3.4632 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: no, baseball is just boring
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.003233 = 0.3071 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Most sports are fundamentally boring when they aren't understood.
ThickAsThieves: i understand baseball
ThickAsThieves: i worked for the sports section at a newspaper for 2 years
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00323 = 1.615 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: it's boring
ThickAsThieves: anyone else see strange characters in the Recent Trades box here: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=NEOBEE
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 280 @ 0.00322128 = 0.902 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 980 @ 0.0031 = 3.038 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.00322199 = 0.5832 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00323999 = 6.48 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00323999 = 6.48 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 484 @ 0.00081244 = 0.3932 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 128 @ 0.00323276 = 0.4138 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00312 = 0.624 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11188887 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 120 @ 0.0055 = 0.66 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11188887 = 0.3357 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00085493 = 1.9663 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.11189721 = 2.2379 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00044998 = 0.135 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.49833332 = 1.495 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00323299 = 0.1261 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00323299 = 0.194 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.06279999 = 0.2512 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.98537437 BTC to 2`471 shares, 80347 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 701 @ 0.00322983 = 2.2641 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 392 @ 0.00323 = 1.2662 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00322 = 0.161 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 341 @ 0.00323 = 1.1014 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 278 @ 0.00323009 = 0.898 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11000001 = 0.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003233 = 0.1617 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1938 @ 0.00085493 = 1.6569 BTC [+] {3}
kakobreklaa: www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-W1weeK2UA
kakobreklaa: this. shit. is .amazing.
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
kakobreklaa: srs, look at it, imagine you went in a zoo.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00323299 = 0.2425 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00323299 = 0.1455 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 247 @ 0.00323299 = 0.7985 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.10800001 = 0.216 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00085904 = 18.1257 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 309 @ 0.003232 = 0.9987 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.10800001 BTC [-]
pankkake: fiat money is also based on a meme!
ThickAsThieves: "we're all going to the moon on generosity"
ThickAsThieves: the guy the runs the place is a character huh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0032 = 0.64 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "I have 12,00 domain names, I know everything about bitcoin, everything."
kakobreklaa: told ya its good material.
Jere_Jones: Speaking of domain names, I have merkletree.com coming up for renewal and I'm not going to do anything with it. Can anybody use it?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.003232 = 0.32 BTC [+]
benkay: how is the ukraine doing today?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 182 @ 0.0055 = 1.001 BTC
ThickAsThieves: "Yesterday, just days after its high-profile $16 billion acquisition by Facebook, the Whatsapp messaging service suffered an unprecedented four hours of downtime. "
ThickAsThieves: "the culprit was a faulty network router"
benkay: network engineering is hard!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 493 @ 0.003232 = 1.5934 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 94 @ 0.00323299 = 0.3039 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.003232 = 0.1487 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: ;;ticker --market mtgox
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 329.1, Best ask: 329.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 333.0, 24 hour volume: 44077.39346478, 24 hour low: 177.1, 24 hour high: 348.98, 24 hour vwap: 260.56546
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 439 @ 0.003232 = 1.4188 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 561 @ 0.003232 = 1.8132 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 339 @ 0.003232 = 1.0956 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 262 @ 0.00323618 = 0.8479 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.00324956 = 0.7474 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.499 = 0.998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 26 @ 0.06090223 = 1.5835 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 79 @ 0.00493876 = 0.3902 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 800 @ 0.00015497 = 0.124 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05800334 = 0.174 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.499 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1209 @ 0.00016099 = 0.1946 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.00319 = 0.1563 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00323175 = 0.3135 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1920 @ 0.0001615 = 0.3101 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8000 @ 0.00016499 = 1.3199 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00323199 = 0.3232 BTC [+]
ozbot: Sex positions - Part 1 (Wheelchair user) (Paraplegic) - YouTube
ozbot: The developers for Neo & Bee have this on the outside of their office - Imgur
pankkake: the image confuses my brain
jurov: ThickAsThieves: is that the apple ssl code?
pankkake: on the top, copyrigts are Satoshi Nakamoto then Bitcoin Developers ;)
Apocalyptic: it's more likely some bitcoin code
benkay: sublime text? really?
ThickAsThieves: let's just hope they've implemented their cryptography without flaw
jurov: tomorrow they have flagship opening..moar swag photos upcoming
pankkake: the best way to have no flaw in your crypto is to not write it
jurov: will there be neobee condoms, too?
pankkake: you're onto something; shouldn't bitcoin come with lube? :)
ThickAsThieves: i bet there are doge condoms
ozbot: Much Sex So Safe! Wow! It's the Great Dogecondom Design Contest! Submit your condom wrapper designs
jurov: *tat dodges the neobee question*
pankkake: doges*
ThickAsThieves: i assumed you werent serious about neo condoms
jurov: comdoms are serious!!!1
KRS-One: seriously uncomfortable..nothing like the real fucking thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00323198 = 0.1745 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 839 @ 0.00323199 = 2.7116 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 933 @ 0.00325147 = 3.0336 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 403 @ 0.00323198 = 1.3025 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 254 @ 0.00328999 = 0.8357 BTC [+] {2}
bitcoinpete: Dogeparty 2014: irllol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15417 @ 0.00015172 = 2.3391 BTC [-] {15}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1515 @ 0.00328878 = 4.9825 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [+]
mod6: (09:19) < kakobreklaa> srs, look at it, imagine you went in a zoo << LOL "175 doge = 1 cupcake"
mod6: "WE'RE ALL GOIN TO THE MOON!" such amaze
bitcoinpete: mod6 just some priceless specimens there
mod6: lmao @ this vid
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 309 @ 0.00329854 = 1.0192 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 310 @ 0.0032 = 0.992 BTC [-]
mod6: "i own 12,000 domain names, I know everything about bitcoin, I probably know most of the damn people who own the bitcoin ..."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1036 @ 0.00329654 = 3.4152 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.11406426 = 1.5969 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.0033 = 0.1914 BTC [+]
mod6: such scamcoin
bitcoinpete: the scammiest lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00329997 = 0.1551 BTC [-]
benkay: pankkake: why u no let me assass on mah fone?
mod6: thx for the link kakobrekla
pankkake: benkay: if you have an iPhone, you are an enemy of freedom. no site for you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00329999 = 1.65 BTC [+]
benkay: i'm just a slave under the regime! don't make me suffer *more*!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1904 @ 0.00329996 = 6.2831 BTC [-] {8}
pankkake: the rule is global to my server, so I can't really disable it for one domain
kakobrekla: mod6 , yeah vexual and krs1 should look up to it
mod6: such lulz
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2108 @ 0.0033 = 6.9564 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2688 @ 0.00014028 = 0.3771 BTC [-] {9}
bitcoinpete: "The complex architecture of primes and natural numbers"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3990 @ 0.00013217 = 0.5274 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11759998 = 0.588 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.11759999 = 0.8232 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: heavy
benkay: bitcoinpete ^^
bitcoinpete: "The importance of primes transcend theoretical aspects, and practical applications include public key cryptography algorithms and pseudorandom number generators "
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.003333 = 0.2766 BTC [+] {3}
davout: there is something i always wondered, how is a PRNG relevant to finding primes ?
davout: i mean, there's only so much primes under a certain boundary right
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 156 @ 0.003333 = 0.5199 BTC [+] {2}
davout: and the fact that you can factor RSA keys if you find two that share a prime makes me wonder whether we won't someday run out of usable ones
davout: (usable primes)
dignork: davout: if you mean finding primes for RSA, PRNG is only used to select a search range
davout: because the more know RSA keys exist, the weaker they collectively become
davout: s/know/known/
davout: dignork: interesting
davout: dignork: the global search space must be mind-boggling if the PRNG is relied upon to select a search space that won't overlap with other search spaces from other known RSA keys
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1178 = 0.589 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5746 @ 0.00013001 = 0.747 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 387 @ 0.00333298 = 1.2899 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00322 = 0.644 BTC [-]
dignork: davout: the space is huge: let's say you're looking for a 2^1024 prime, which is not less than 2^1023, and roughly each 10th number is prime, you have ~2^1022 variants
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003308 = 0.1654 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.48024402 = 6.7234 BTC [-] {4}
davout: dignork: as in 10% of the numbers above 2^1023 is a prime?
mjoiii__: ThickAsThieves, "recent trades" is showing some junk characters in my browser too
mjoiii__: the bitcoin symbol
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu social vcs is facebook + git/subversion/mercurial/etc - social + version control system
gribble: The operation succeeded.
dignork: davout: not exactly, but it's around 1/10, so even if I'm horribly wrong it's tsill in range of 2^1000
dignork: s/tsill/still/
jurov: social control system :D
davout: nice
benkay: gamified work
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2004 @ 0.00333149 = 6.6763 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: bleugh
benkay: otoh
benkay: GETS MORE OUTTA WORKERS
benkay: so rock, hard place.
jurov: the 'density' of primes around t should be 1/lnt.
jurov: ;;calc 1/ln(2^1024)
gribble: Error: 'ln' is not a defined function.
jurov: ;;calc 1/log(2^1024)
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
jurov: it's 0.0014088819
jurov: meand 1.4% of them should be primes, plenty enough
jurov: er..0.14%
davout: sounds like it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4802 BTC [-]
dignork: jurov: yep, but still it's in 2^1000 range :)
davout: still, it sounds that because of the birthday paradox, the more RSA gets used, the weaker it becomes
dignork: fun with huge numbers is that you can be horribly wrong and it's still on the same order of magnitude - huge :)
davout: lol
bitcoinpete: qapla huge is right
jurov: birthday paradox doesn't stand a chance for 2^1000 bucket
jurov: oh, did phuctor find something yet?
davout: jurov: phuctor i dunno, but i heard some RSA keys were found to be weak
jurov: that was cause of poor (predictable) rng
davout: i see
davout: not because of birthday paradox
jurov: http://nosuchlabs.com/stats asciilifeform what does 35 duplicate moduli mean?
ozbot: So far:
jurov: it's normal or are these really weak keys?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 891 @ 0.00333199 = 2.9688 BTC [+]
jurov: lol that favicon
davout: haha didn't notice
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.003332 = 0.3898 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 219 @ 0.003332 = 0.7297 BTC [+]
davout: i'm in love with this woman -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ZWghQBoKk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14948 @ 0.00086797 = 12.9744 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00333199 = 0.9996 BTC [-]
dignork: Ex0deus: regarding linux maintenance: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1043212
dignork: oops
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 880 @ 0.00333233 = 2.9325 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 660 @ 0.003332 = 2.1991 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 340 @ 0.003332 = 1.1329 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.00333299 = 0.36 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 372 @ 0.0033329 = 1.2398 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1500 @ 0.00333296 = 4.9994 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.0033329 = 0.31 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.0033301 = 1.2654 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.003332 = 0.3998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003332 = 0.4998 BTC [+]
ozbot: Untitled - Cheezburger
davout: such swag
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.003332 = 0.7664 BTC [+]
dub: who dat is
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
kakobrekla: take a look
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.11375 = 0.455 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 321 @ 0.00481194 = 1.5446 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0033329 = 0.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.48014 = 2.4007 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.003332 = 0.2332 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11779999 = 0.2356 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.11255555 = 1.013 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00081659 = 0.1633 BTC [-] {4}
ozbot: Decentralized #DogeParty - YouTube
ozbot: Dogecoin: The Future Of All Trade And Commerce. - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00333 = 0.2231 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 331 @ 0.00333 = 1.1022 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: facepaw
davout: pankkake: LOL
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 603 @ 0.00330247 = 1.9914 BTC [-] {6}
jurov: mpex.co/?mpsic=X.DGE anyone?
jurov: or what is the code? DGC?
pankkake: DOGE
pankkake: more characters, more valuable
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 917 @ 0.00318685 = 2.9223 BTC [-] {6}
kakobrekla: kraken sez its XDG
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.003329 = 0.223 BTC [+]
pankkake: well they also say XBT
kakobrekla: they are also retarded
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 183 @ 0.00332988 = 0.6094 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.00332999 = 0.1865 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: what's the cheapest one can get 12,000 domain names anyway?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.0033 = 6.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 301 @ 0.00332199 = 0.9999 BTC [+]
benkay: "create an object with multiple values and return it"
benkay: bawww
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00333 = 0.1665 BTC [+]
jurov: every time this was necessary i saw untyped Array used
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 396 @ 0.00085745 = 0.3396 BTC [+] {4}
jurov: so i considered it defacto standard
benkay: huh thanks jurov
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 187 @ 0.00085747 = 0.1603 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00332999 = 0.2497 BTC [-]
pankkake: but can you do r1, r2 = butts(); ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11779998 BTC [+]
dignork: pankkake: not in java
benkay: i can't see through all the semicolons
benkay: help
benkay: drowni--
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 402 @ 0.00333 = 1.3387 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: but what about different kinds of values?
benkay: argh
jurov: just return XML
jurov: XML solver errything
jurov: *solves
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 32 @ 0.0055 = 0.176 BTC
benkay: i...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC
benkay: i am actually going to return an array of strings
BeanFactoryPostP: ouch BeanFactoryPostProcessor too long
benkay: because oh dear god save me
BeanFactoryPostP: don't forget to define them as global constants
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11779999 BTC [+]
benkay: global butt
benkay: more please davout
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00331 = 0.662 BTC [-]
davout: benkay: more what? music?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 598 @ 0.00331 = 1.9794 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11779999 = 0.3534 BTC [+]
benkay: cello in particular
davout: benkay: :3
benkay: i found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwjZnZDpXSA which has the same thing, but maybe more of
benkay: concerto in d, that is
davout: benkay: nice, i'll listen to this
davout: you want the mp3s of jacqueline dupré's C & D Haydn ?
davout: she is amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
benkay: ooh that sounds lovely yah
davout: gimme a minute, imma install dropbox
benkay: no don't do it
benkay: it's a trap
davout: lol
davout: web version will do then
benkay: man we should really just share public keys and scp stuff to each other
benkay: and i'm not setting that up right now - dick deep in java oop spaghetti
davout: you don't need it to download, there is the "copy public URL" feature that's kinda neat
benkay: that is kinda neat
benkay: yeah man thats cool i'll always take good music :)
davout: i love to compare interpretations, sometimes it feels like the differences make for a completely different piece
davout: hah, the gendron cadenza on the C 1st mov. is superb
bitcoinpete: I really couldn't help myself here: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/dogederps/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1130 @ 0.00333081 = 3.7638 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.0008158 = 0.8158 BTC [-] {9}
bitcoinpete: mod6 thanks for the pic!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1070 @ 0.00333299 = 3.5663 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 245 @ 0.003333 = 0.8166 BTC [+]
benkay: bitcoinpete: what are your bitcoinspirations?
mod6: haha bitcoinpete, np :]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11749999 = 0.235 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: benkay: haha for blogging? or why BTC in general?
benkay: open ended question
jurov: benkay and your? to use btc to liberate cascadia?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 86 @ 0.003333 = 0.2866 BTC [+]
benkay: that's just a joke jurov ;)
benkay: a schtick as they say
jurov: :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.003333 = 0.45 BTC [+]
jurov: oh, and i heard cascadian national animal will be tree octopus :D
bitcoinpete: Well, I find the level of intellectual rigour in this space to be the highest. BTC has the broadest scope of implications of pretty much anything I've yet encountered and that brings forth the most fascinating types of people.
bitcoinpete: It's a stimulating space, that's why I'm here
benkay: .bait
benkay: now there's some stimulation
bitcoinpete: titilating
benkay: cute
davout: the chick looks good too
benkay: sho nuff
pankkake: don't know why but women with string instruments do something for me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.10302984 = 1.0303 BTC [+] {7}
bitcoinpete: benkay basically, my bitcoinspiration, such as it is, is not being bored. and yours?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00087548 = 6.2159 BTC [+]
benkay: i think not coining words like that is mine.
benkay downloads 60 megs of binary to disk from a stranger's dropbox
benkay: davout auth plz
benkay: jkjk
davout: benkay: come in the van, i have candy
davout: it's not public?
benkay: davout: it's public, i was asking something else
benkay: ;;gettrust davout
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user davout: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=davout | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=davout | Rated since: Thu Jan 27 16:22:24 2011
davout: what was it you were asking
benkay: i was joking that i want you to auth with gribble before i download your .zip
davout: haha I GET IT KNOW!
benkay: ding ding ding
davout: you better not unzip the first stranger you meet, jus saying
dexX7: lol
davout: >D
dexX7: i wasn't expecting music when i started the download
davout: dexX7: the tranny porn is in a private folder
benkay: to the logs with you, dexX7
dexX7: hehe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 689 @ 0.0033 = 2.2737 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 384 @ 0.0033 = 1.2672 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.113 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 303 @ 0.0033 = 0.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0055 = 1.1 BTC
praeconium: Are there some kind of rating services for crypto currencies? How to compare them?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.0032987 = 0.1352 BTC [-]
benkay: no
pankkake: if coin.name == 'bitcoin': return True
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 463 @ 0.00325 = 1.5048 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: goto fail;
assbot: Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1652573/plain/)
kakobrekla: !b 10
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 36 @ 0.0055 = 0.198 BTC {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00329869 = 0.2309 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 900 @ 0.00043 = 0.387 BTC [-]
peterl: is NeoBee IPO over now?
dexX7: from lmb-holdings.com: ... and there are 2756311 of Shares available, out of which 15653 are locked.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00328 = 0.164 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 470 @ 0.00329869 = 1.5504 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 136 @ 0.0032987 = 0.4486 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.0032987 = 0.4981 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 160 @ 0.0032987 = 0.5278 BTC [+]
benkay: such demand
benkay: neomoon
kakobrekla: over 9000 satoshi
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 303 @ 0.00329869 = 0.9995 BTC [-]
benkay: !t h neobee
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00301100 / 0.00324505 / 0.00333300 (63246 shares, 205.23638306 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.00316807 / 0.00333300 (86852 shares, 275.15330922 BTC), 30D: 0.00257150 / 0.00302647 / 0.00333300 (231394 shares, 700.30791976 BTC)
benkay: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (760 shares, 4.18000000 BTC), 7D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (4034 shares, 22.18700000 BTC), 30D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (36390 shares, 200.14500000 BTC)
benkay: lookit that, almost 3x rentalstarter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00329 = 0.125 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.103999 = 0.208 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00329 = 0.1316 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 719 @ 0.00329 = 2.3655 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: heuristic average neo trade size ~3B
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.0033 = 1.155 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: probably erring on the high side honestly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 244 @ 0.0033 = 0.8052 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00333 = 1.332 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 739 @ 0.0008576 = 0.6338 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 218 @ 0.00333 = 0.7259 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3000 @ 0.00322561 = 9.6768 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.003299 = 0.2573 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 273 @ 0.0033 = 0.9009 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1042 @ 0.0033 = 3.4386 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.06149996 = 0.246 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 309 @ 0.0033 = 1.0197 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 173 @ 0.0033 = 0.5709 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.0615 = 1.722 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.0615 = 2.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.003299 = 0.386 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.0615 = 0.738 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 651 @ 0.003299 = 2.1476 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: well that was nice davout thank you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.003299 = 0.3068 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 432 @ 0.00329927 = 1.4253 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0033 = 0.1155 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 445 @ 0.0033 = 1.4685 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 339 @ 0.0033 = 1.1187 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003299 = 0.4949 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00088258 = 10.6792 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.003299 = 0.2474 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003299 = 0.3299 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 91 @ 0.003299 = 0.3002 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell mircea_popescu cluck, cluck! Also, for the sake of curiosity, I'd be more interested in a car registry than a car club per se. Also also, ce nu the omoarà the intàreste. Noroc!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.003299 = 0.2111 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 206 @ 0.003299 = 0.6796 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.0033 = 0.2541 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 88 @ 0.0055 = 0.484 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11749999 = 0.3525 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06279998 = 0.314 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.10101 = 0.404 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-]
MisterE: oops
MisterE: wtf
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06279999 = 0.314 BTC [+]
MisterE: both good
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.064 = 0.384 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 78 @ 0.11787558 = 9.1943 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1438 @ 0.00332491 = 4.7812 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.00333 = 0.6027 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: MisterE: re: wages, old news.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.00333 = 0.2531 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.498 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 409 @ 0.00333 = 1.362 BTC [+] {2}
the20year2: our volume on HL seems to be pretty good today.....wonder what happened
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 450 @ 0.00333 = 1.4985 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00087798 = 18.3937 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: !t h neobee
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00301100 / 0.00325251 / 0.00333300 (75607 shares, 245.91259058 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.00318364 / 0.00333300 (99117 shares, 315.55323104 BTC), 30D: 0.00257150 / 0.00303986 / 0.00333300 (243755 shares, 740.98060618 BTC)
benkay: something to do with neobee i gather
the20year2: our stock has had good volume too because of it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0033 = 0.165 BTC [-]
jayk_:
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00087676 = 16.0447 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.11863 = 1.1863 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 365 @ 0.0033 = 1.2045 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 40 @ 0.00425249 = 0.1701 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4591 @ 0.00087548 = 4.0193 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20759 @ 0.00087508 = 18.1658 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1188 = 0.594 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.11903991 = 2.3808 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00087736 = 12.0198 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0033 = 0.1254 BTC [-]
benkay: the20year2: it's not "volume" if you're only selling.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41400 @ 0.0008829 = 36.5521 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.003281 = 0.4429 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.1198 = 0.3594 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.0033 = 0.198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 325 @ 0.0033 = 1.0725 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.0033 = 0.1221 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.00328 = 0.4953 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00328617 = 0.2662 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0033 = 0.231 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.00085991 = 0.8599 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 21 @ 0.16230094 = 3.4083 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00499178 = 0.4992 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5660 @ 0.00088179 = 4.9909 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay ah ah i see.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1500 @ 0.0033 = 4.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0033 = 0.1254 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.0033 = 0.2244 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19409 @ 0.00088179 = 17.1147 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1198 = 0.599 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1199 = 0.4796 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14678 @ 0.00087815 = 12.8895 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3000 @ 0.003292 = 9.876 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.003292 = 3.292 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11974999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11975 = 0.7185 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.11975 = 2.874 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0652 = 0.1304 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3060 @ 0.00329738 = 10.09 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0033 = 0.231 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30341 @ 0.00087907 = 26.6719 BTC [+]
Duffer1: 2 down
ozbot: Mt. Gox CEO Resigns From Bitcoin Foundation Board - WSJ.com
Duffer1: bitbet who's next?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 743 @ 0.00015299 = 0.1137 BTC [-]
bloctoc: note to self, if offered a seat on the board, run.
bloctoc: away
the20year: They had been calling for him to resign
the20year: Who else resigned?
bloctoc: shrem
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
the20year: Holy crap
mircea_popescu: bloctoc good point
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00088342 = 9.9385 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.49958799 = 9.9918 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9121 @ 0.00016339 = 1.4903 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: karpeles is a loser and i think he is a booser
bloctoc: can someone explain that wall on bitstamp. I know it's declasse to talk about price action, but the20year just brought it up
mircea_popescu: o look who's here. thestringpuller when did oyu get out
mircea_popescu: bloctoc someone is selling like 8k
thestringpuller: they let me out of jail last week
thestringpuller: it's so weird on the outside
B007: jail?
mircea_popescu: finally can have cock in the other hole ?
thestringpuller: no it was a joke
thestringpuller: i've been locked away at my day job as a slave
B007: what's your day job?
thestringpuller: i just thought mircea_popescu would find that article interesting since he talkeda bout teh concept like a year ago
the20year: It's about 10k worth of BTC , trying to push market down
mircea_popescu: why necessarily meta ? can't people just sell stuff anymore ?
mircea_popescu: people harping on twitter about how women are the future of tech
mircea_popescu: mp: "Women are the future of tech like they are the present of governance. When it sucks they come to dominate it."
mircea_popescu: ensuing butthurt.
antephialtic: look at the asks
mircea_popescu: antephialtic look at the log
thestringpuller: lol bitbet is technically bound by gpg contract via prospectus. says in prospectus the methodology of how payouts/bet resolution occurs etc...
antephialtic: micrea_popescu: whoops
the20year: Where's the bitstamp orderbook?
mircea_popescu: the20year you just added a jpg
Jere_Jones: If I recall correctly, one of mircea_popescu's points about gpg contracts was that they are unenforcable and that they should be agreed to with the knowledge that they are unenforcable.
the20year: It was from /r/bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 245 @ 0.0033 = 0.8085 BTC [+] {2}
the20year: Depends on the state i'd guess. Is it enforcable in your state? GPGs are not in mine, but online contracts can be certified
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones quote is better than paraphrase :)
mircea_popescu: you mean the gpg contracts trilema article ?
Jere_Jones: Looking for a quote
Jere_Jones: I've been reading a lot of trilema so it may take me a minute to find it.
Jere_Jones: Ah. My mistake. Not "unenforcable". "Won't be enforced".
mircea_popescu: see, the shit about me is that i write very subtly. these aren't the same.
Jere_Jones: Yeah. Certainly distinct.
ozbot: GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ozbot: GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
thestringpuller: yea trilema
thestringpuller: lol won't be enforced. the other guy says "self enforcing" i just found it interesting people are bringing these subjects up years later
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller there's this massive derpage re "we've found this technology which we'll pretend like and demand it does our work for us"
mircea_popescu: there was some good discussion here re why that's nonsense, lemme find it.
thestringpuller: blogger: "omg crytocontracts are new, they'll change things" bitcoin-assets: "Uh we've been using them for a few years now, we know."
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller pretty much. then "and they aren't for X anyway, they're for Y" then blogger "omfg you do not understand the holy cause of the future!!11"
benkay: a local businessman asked me about Ethereum and its "distributed autonomous corporations" recently. i sent him back a tome the gist of which was "come on man you run a business do you really think these nerds are going to code up an AI that can handle the ambiguity and indeterminacy of what we do? it mighta worked for S.D. and J.D. but shit at the end of the day those were driven just fine by humans!"
benkay: were/are
mircea_popescu: benkay except sd ipod on mpex not on ethereum
benkay: that is precisely my point.
benkay: those were driven just fine by humans.
mircea_popescu: anyway. kids gotta kid.
benkay: no ether-fueled turing computers necessary.
thestringpuller: TURING COMPLETE
benkay: turing my butt
benkay: compute my poop
kakobrekla: /cap req -identify-msg
mircea_popescu: can i sell tickets to "Touring benkay butt. The international butt tour!" ?
benkay: only if we figure out a way to use my poops as memory
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones you know the merchant of venice, do you ?
Jere_Jones: Oh. Shakespeare?
nicknode: benkay: ether is useless cause real word is messy, that it?
nicknode: real world, that is
benkay: people don't use the script system in bitcoin not 'cause it's not turing complete but because the needs ethereum satisfies are entirely imaginary.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1044 @ 0.00322969 = 3.3718 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: nicknode to within an order of magnitude
benkay: how is your DAC going to handle the problem of vetting pantie suppliers from pakistan, india, china, etc?
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones yes. it's what people were discussing in that log link i gave above. my selection of it, ie http://trilema.com/2014/the-most-serene-republic-and-its-laws/
mircea_popescu: and that readlist goes for nicknode too :D
benkay: i wonder what fraction of shit sold for btc is sold to people who just want to spend their bitcoins to fuel the consumer tech self-validation angle
mircea_popescu: considering i've not bought anything for btc in 2013...
benkay: what, humanskin notebooks not sold for btc?
mircea_popescu: i guess i bought some things, actually, not on the usual "here's my shop" sense
Duffer1: mp do you even lambo?
mircea_popescu: i don't even drive.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [+]
randomcloud: Did somebody ring for me?
dignork: mircea_popescu: gpg-contracts is a beautifull article. Thank you.
randomcloud: Oh BingoBoingo~
mircea_popescu: dignork my pleasure.
mircea_popescu: randomcloud who're you ?
mircea_popescu: o wait, you're the randomcloud chick i remember nao
randomcloud: I got a saved message that I was wanted here for some reason
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.063 = 0.189 BTC [-]
randomcloud: And hi random famous bitcoin rich person
randomcloud: Where's BingoBoingo?
mircea_popescu: either in jail or in a whiskey barrel
KRS-One: haha
randomcloud: So who needed me here and why?
benkay: from whom did this message originate, randomcloud
randomcloud: A bot in another room
randomcloud: It said someone sent a message 20 hours ago saying I was wanted in -assets
mircea_popescu: you mean gribble ?
randomcloud: *shrug*
Duffer1: interesting
randomcloud: No, not gribble, it's from another room where BingoBoingo and I hang out in; the message says he was the one who sent it
randomcloud: Damn it, now I'm gonna wonder what's going on the whole night. :/
mircea_popescu: well so then he was the one who wanted you
mircea_popescu: check out the logs of here ~20 hours ago,
Jere_Jones: "But lend it rather to thine enemy, who, if he break, thou mayst with better face exact the penalty." lol
mircea_popescu: maybe it becomes obvious
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11500001 BTC [-]
benkay: hey guys what's the notion of estimating how much of your pot to bet on a thing of known odds and payout called?
benkay: optimal risk something or other?
benkay: risk pricing?
B007: lol
nicknode: kelly betting is one method
mircea_popescu: ie, kelly criterion ?
benkay: 0.01% chance of winning 1B - how ams even calculate
benkay: value of above
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.01 * 10**9
gribble: 10000000
nicknode: that is "EV" estimated value
mircea_popescu: i guess i missed some zeroes but you get the idea.
mike_c: EV = expected value
benkay: so it is a simple product
mircea_popescu: so sez bernoulli.
nicknode: how much to bet then becomes a question of expected value (or rather excess value, or "edge"), variance and account size
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24294 @ 0.000885 = 21.5002 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: kelly criterion is simple on a 1:1 payout - you bet your edge. that is if you have a 60% chance of winning on a 1:1 payout you bet 20% of your bankroll.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00088629 = 7.6221 BTC [+]
benkay: hah
mike_c: more complicated on variable payouts, but the formulas are not complicated.
benkay: so i just realized the outsized returns of "startups" blind the average street "angel" to kelly criteria evaluation
mike_c: average street angels are not profitable
mircea_popescu: yes and yes.
mircea_popescu: welcome to being smarter than most people club.
benkay: well duh
benkay: plus the mythology and cult worship around google/yahoo/msft/etc totally throws everyone's radars out of whack
benkay: dude!
nicknode: i've always felt im part of that club, though i seem to never recognize the other members though
mircea_popescu: benkay consider this simple point : facebook overpaid by about 99.x% for that whatsapp thing.
benkay: someone tried to compare their shitty startup to google at me the other day
benkay: outta mah FACE
mircea_popescu: this yielded two results : telegraf now making noises about how they added 800k new users in the past 4 hours
mircea_popescu: rather than 1mn a day
mircea_popescu: and armchair generals going "i wonder who's the next to buy one of these. vodafone ? telefonica ?"
benkay: (telegraf?)
mircea_popescu: then i point out that this bs deal put the bar way wya topo high, which means there won't be more sales, as old money has more of a clue
mircea_popescu: (dunno some bs messaging app nobody heard of)
mike_c: i was reading about HP acquisition of autonomy the other day. numbers were something like "acquired for $11b. HP wrote off $8B"
mircea_popescu: and they go like o no, old money loses money through its teeth.
mircea_popescu: because they actually believe this shit.
mircea_popescu: so then i point out that telefonica makes 5bn net on 70bn revenue
mircea_popescu: whereas fb makes 1 bn net on 7 bn revenue
mircea_popescu: and so it's a chipmunk in the discussion.
mircea_popescu: so they retort that telefonica did in fact buy some messaging app
mircea_popescu: and lo and behold, they did indeed. for 70 MILLION
benkay: bahaha
mircea_popescu: and so then they run for the exists.
benkay: scammers scamming scammers
mircea_popescu: but one can't not stop to observe that yo! had you spent five minutes thinking things though on publicly available data,
mircea_popescu: you'd have not been a total derp
mircea_popescu: mike_c there must be some tax angle in all this i'm missing.
benkay: exits as in everything is ludicrously overvalued everyone going to cash this instant?
mike_c: the autonomy deal? accounting fraud that was only found after acquistion
mircea_popescu: benkay no exists as in, and i quote, "you lost me, all I said was WHO will start investing, didn't name an exit price, have a lovely Sunday :) "
dignork: mircea_popescu telegraf app is known, apaprently only in russia
mircea_popescu: not like he has dough to exit anyway.
mircea_popescu: dignork the fact that user numbers are like "views", ie easily and commonly faked is only known here, apparently.
mircea_popescu: mike_c ah i see.
mircea_popescu: anyway. this is, mostly, the bezzle.
dignork: mircea_popescu: i assume it's known since it creates a lot of media noise in russian language. media noise can be inflated as well, it just costs more than "views"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile over at the stupid farm :
mircea_popescu: @TheBitcoinWife · 6h
mircea_popescu: Staunch Bitcoin purists are missing out on the beautiful decentralization of innovation that is manifested in altcoins. Real time evolution!
mircea_popescu: @Mircea_Popescu · 56m
mircea_popescu: @TheBitcoinWife @Beautyon_ Hon, you really need to drop by #bitcoin-assets. Yer the one missing out. http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=bitcoin-assets …
mircea_popescu: @TheBitcoinWife · 44s
mircea_popescu: @Mircea_Popescu @Beautyon_ Pls dont call me hon & patronize me. If you paid any attention youd know Im not "missing out." I LIVE for Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: how could you NOT patronize these idiots ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, she thinks it's because she's a woman, but it's merely because she's dumb.
the20year: Some people can't comprehend the fact that they're supid so they want to blame everyone else and call them names
mircea_popescu: kinda why calling people names is so effectual.
mircea_popescu: you call one of these schmucks names it's like a cataclysmic event in their little brain.
the20year: Don't even have to do that 90% of the time
the20year: Just say something that could potentially be taken the wrong way and all hell breaks loose
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5099 BTC [+]
benkay: oh my god bitcoinwife tweet feed or whatever they call is maybe worse than btctalk?
benkay: no, couldn't be...
benkay: but sheeeeit maybe
mircea_popescu: but SHE LIVES FOR IT
Jere_Jones: "No, none that thou hast wit enough to make." lol
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones you see ? YOU SEE ?
benkay: wtf no deep link tweets?
Jere_Jones: I'm getting there
mircea_popescu: so as a bonus exercise for he who was smart enough to find the important spot, write an alternative future or description of what the prayer should hgave been
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
benkay: dumbest in the world award
benkay: so dumb cannot comprehend their own dumbness
benkay: words fail
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00328 = 0.328 BTC [-]
Duffer1: Mrs.P TheBitcoinWife ‏@TheBitcoinWife 4h
Duffer1: @pbaril @bitcoin_girl IMO #MAX, #QRK & #DOGE differ from each other enough that unless you are day-trading alts, it'd be prudent to hold all
Duffer1: o.o
nubbins`: prudent
mod6: lol
Duffer1: prudent to hold all
Duffer1: the stuple has spoken
Duffer1: poverty is fun
mircea_popescu: werll if not fun at least prudent
mircea_popescu: DONT PATRONIZE HER
mod6: *smirk*
mircea_popescu: this is what the fucktarded activists have reduced the matter to. these are "women in tech"
Duffer1: ah shit i went 6 on the second line
mircea_popescu: hunter coin is adorable and she roots out for ken the most.
mircea_popescu: fucking despicable abuse of women to a degree not the loweliest slave in the most obscure african harem endures.
mircea_popescu: ahaha wait wait. "the proven leaders in crypto" max keiser ?
nubbins`: so there's this thing called the RPM Challenge, where interested parties may give themselves the task of writing and recording an album of music entirely during the month of february
KRS-One: well? who else had a coin named after them?
nubbins`: we decided to make a Dick Surgery album for RPM this year; listening to it now
Duffer1: proven leaders in crypto (7)
Duffer1: my haiku is saved thank you MP
mircea_popescu: nubbins` not bad
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: you're only saying that because you haven't heard it
nubbins`: it's an aleatoric cacophony
mircea_popescu: what's so hard about making an album in a month. 3 days/song is over the average for pro pop these days.
nubbins`: but it's an excuse to submit a dick surgery to the CBC
nubbins`: and we can't pass that up
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: sure, but pro pop = $$
mircea_popescu: well yeah
nubbins`: the music machine is costly
mircea_popescu: most girlies get about a week in the studio
nubbins`: rpm is largely an amateur/independent affair
mircea_popescu: for their "album"
nubbins`: although there's a shockingly high number of really good albums that come out of it each year
mircea_popescu: i guess some people aren't lazy bums
mircea_popescu: i had no idea how well my follow list protects me on twitter.
mircea_popescu: there's like fiddy billion of these retards who think they matter in btc because they have no life, and so they "live for bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 579.21, Best ask: 579.34, Bid-ask spread: 0.13000, Last trade: 579.34, 24 hour volume: 34513.61331147, 24 hour low: 566.22, 24 hour high: 646.0, 24 hour vwap: 605.031106652
nubbins`: ;;seen thestringpuller
gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour and 19 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> TURING COMPLETE
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00088779 = 5.9482 BTC [+]
cazalla: gee i hate that bitcoin wife bullshit, if that was my wife, i'd beat her
nubbins`: "the bitcoin wife"
nubbins`: eyeroll
the20year: I like the blog theme
the20year: Maybe we could use that type of theme for rentalstarter...
mircea_popescu: people with any smarts need to be convinced to start blogs. people who already have blogs... dun wanna use the noggin. it's a dilemma.
cazalla: too outspoken, her husband should do the speaking yet he is silent
mircea_popescu: cazalla i would guess the gimmick is that btc/satoshi is the husband
nubbins`: ehh, blogs are a burden
cazalla: i use to blog
nubbins`: used to, yep
cazalla: that is to say i paid indians to write barely legible shit and wrapped it in adsense
cazalla: good times
mircea_popescu: everything worth doing is a burden
the20year: Used to be quite profitable, I made quite a bit of c oin hiring philipinos to blog for companies
nubbins`: sure, that's fair
the20year: and can be outsourced
mircea_popescu: business is a burden, children are a burden, womenz are a burden, fucking eating is a burden
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