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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00086695 = 3.7279 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.156 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15799999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.05 = 2 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00086695 = 10.0133 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10987 @ 0.00086758 = 9.5321 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: If anyone wants to know how Open Source chess engines stack up against each other in the event that Play Chess for BTC becomes a thing so far it seems Stockfish>fruit>Pychess>Phlanx
BingoBoingo: Depending on how affluent suckers are it may be worth setting up a Windows machine to run Rybka though.
BingoBoingo: I'm finding some exceptions though. Fruit tends to annihilate Stockfish under strict (under 5 minute time constraints) while black. I also imagine the results might differ if I actually allowed any of these engines access to an opening book.
BingoBoingo: KRS|Gotyawallet: I'm just testing and releasing some early findings in case someone would decide to advance such a broken idea
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00086783 = 0.8678 BTC [+]
KRS|Gotyawallet: whatcha got
BingoBoingo: KRS|Gotyawallet: Just engines running natively in Linux through PyChess fighting each other.
KRS|Gotyawallet: pretty interesting
BingoBoingo: KRS|Gotyawallet: Without any opening books feeding them they actually seem to be playing rather crippled in the early going.
KRS|Gotyawallet: i like the idea of modifying open source software to be driven by btc
KRS|Gotyawallet: im a sysadmin..so i tend to think business apps- check it
KRS|Gotyawallet: you know that thing jurov set up - the open terminal i forgot the url
KRS|Gotyawallet: you click start and get a linux shell
KRS|Gotyawallet: same thing-but "Insert 0.01 for SugarCRM instance"
KRS|Gotyawallet: then the customer can go in and fiddle with SugarCRM
KRS|Gotyawallet: I've always hated having to set up a vm or download a virtual appliance and set it up on my own
KRS|Gotyawallet: I just want to use it damnit.
KRS|Gotyawallet: There are 1000's of apps that take time to set up to be able to use them..
BingoBoingo: Yeah, the catch is though that a lot of those demanding set up steps exist for reasons.
KRS|Gotyawallet: Usually you have to download a virtual appliance or if the vendor/project has a demo its restricted
KRS|Gotyawallet: im thinking this eliminates those reasons..concerns?
KRS|Gotyawallet: btw get ready to lose 25% or so of your btc net wealth
BingoBoingo: Eh, why would I lose that?
KRS|Gotyawallet: market aint so hot lately
KRS|Gotyawallet: im thinking if market price doesnt stabilize at 900's again it'll go 700's if it doesnt stop there i think down further
KRS|Gotyawallet: been real unstable lately
BingoBoingo: KRS|Gotyawallet: How much were you watching BTC this spring in the period immediately after it broke $80
kanzure: i thought sugarcrm was ran by a company that sells sugarcrm instances
kanzure: are you just banking on "i can integrate btc faster than whoever is running sugarcrm's parent company at the moment can"
kanzure: like, the obvious downside here is that you would have to actually support sugarcrm instances..... yeah.
BingoBoingo: I'm really not worried about how thin BTC orderbooks are contributing to this present volatility because generally the asks side (aka people with BTC) tends to be better at bluffing than the bids are.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15671 @ 0.00086663 = 13.581 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6577 @ 0.00086547 = 5.6922 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 875 @ 0.00086547 = 0.7573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8310 @ 0.00086666 = 7.2019 BTC [+] {2}
KRS|Gotyawallet: wow thats a great analysis bingoboingo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.158 BTC [+]
KRS|Gotyawallet: i'm still learning trading i've been working at it for a year
BingoBoingo: KRS|Gotyawallet: That guess comes from nothing sophisticated.
BingoBoingo: It may be completely wrong
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC
KRS|Gotyawallet: makes sense
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 0.13900001 = 0.695 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2550 @ 0.00010292 = 0.2624 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00297001 = 0.1188 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3300 @ 0.000103 = 0.3399 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09133333 = 0.274 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC
KRS|Gotyawallet: kakkobrekla..
KRS|Gotyawallet: This doesn't seem like good news.
KRS|Gotyawallet: "If Bitcoin was a country — Bitcoinistan? — it would be like Somalia."
ozbot: Bitcoin Proves The Libertarian Idea Of Paradise Would Be Hell On Earth - Yahoo Finance
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.00296178 = 2.0732 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319 BTC [+]
javanomad: ;;seen unbalanced
gribble: unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 5 hours, 58 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <unbalanced> (wish I'd hit enter a half-second sooner)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00086621 = 11.6505 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58400 @ 0.00086801 = 50.6918 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00086464 = 22.1348 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 390 @ 0.00049999 = 0.195 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.14303225 = 4.434 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.1393 = 1.393 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 43 @ 0.13289766 = 5.7146 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10325 @ 0.00008114 = 0.8378 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24838 @ 0.0008706 = 21.624 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 32089 @ 0.0000703 = 2.2559 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.12775 = 2.044 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2845 @ 0.00046332 = 1.3181 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00010299 = 0.103 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00087309 = 11.9177 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.15999997 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2070 @ 0.00087347 = 1.8081 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11848 @ 0.0008714 = 10.3243 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25250 @ 0.00087493 = 22.092 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00296 = 0.296 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00087244 = 8.8989 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00087567 = 11.6464 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.129 = 0.258 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1773 @ 0.0001008 = 0.1787 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 3227 @ 0.00010025 = 0.3235 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.13500001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.00296 = 0.1687 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30300001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12715 @ 0.00087152 = 11.0814 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.303 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31899999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00087517 = 11.771 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.00295987 = 0.4617 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 344 @ 0.00292286 = 1.0055 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00295 = 0.1475 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4110 @ 0.00087517 = 3.5969 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02349993 = 0.1175 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00007009 = 0.3505 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5917 @ 0.00087624 = 5.1847 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00087656 = 20.0732 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.31787142 = 2.2251 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 15 @ 0.0235 = 0.3525 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19234 @ 0.00087297 = 16.7907 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 240 @ 0.05 = 12 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00087477 = 12.2468 BTC [+] {2}
Sabroshi: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 1039124171.64 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days
mircea_popescu: oy Sabroshi cabron! como estas!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00290003 = 2.9 BTC [-] {3}
Sabroshi: Ola! Ola!
Sabroshi: ;;nethash
gribble: 6400549.04237
Sabroshi: still broken, nanotube knows tho
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.137 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.0008742 = 12.1514 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: When Weinstein was charged with handling the US release of Princess Mononoke, he received a samurai sword in the mail with an attached note that read, "No cuts."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4429 @ 0.00087092 = 3.8573 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 332 @ 0.00287856 = 0.9557 BTC [-] {13}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.30200005 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.30200001 = 1.51 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 571 @ 0.00289163 = 1.6511 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17204 @ 0.00087208 = 15.0033 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: jurov cunny crew would have been a better name for a radical sewing circle.
jurov: oh, they prefer local spelling
mircea_popescu: well then why "crew"
mircea_popescu: kundy krai
KRS|Gotyawallet: you guys know anything about cex.io cloudhashing shares? i cant see how its profitable
KRS|Gotyawallet: i must be doing something wrong
mircea_popescu: don't know anything that'd indicate it's profitable.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.02249999 = 0.2925 BTC [-]
jurov: ppl know what "kundy" and "crew" is. i had to look "cunny" up
KRS|Gotyawallet: yea i ran the numbers it just doesnt make sense
mircea_popescu: jurov that's a point.
mircea_popescu: i think kundy is exactly it tho, neh ? cutest way to say girlbit.
jurov: not sure if cutest... that would be "pička"
jurov: and it's plural, singular is kunda
mircea_popescu: romanian uses pizda but doesn't have a picka ;/
pankkake: KRS|Gotyawallet: they probably get their success from the referal program
pankkake: if you want any chance of profit, you have to spam
mircea_popescu: so it's a... mlm thing ?
pankkake: I think there's only one level, but it certainly smells like it
KRS|Gotyawallet: pankkake do they think people are stupid
KRS|Gotyawallet: facepalm
pankkake: isn't it the first assumption when you create a btc investment?
pankkake: and yet I'm pretty sure they were cheaper than many that were around when they started
pankkake: kinda like TAT.VM
pankkake: at least it limits the scale of the overpricing… ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.30073334 = 1.8044 BTC [-] {3}
KRS|Gotyawallet: yea i guess the only ones that were able to make anything of it are those who invested then reinvested their earnings a few times..back when btc was $200 there might have been a decent roi
KRS|Gotyawallet: i was looking at them back then but it looked so scammy.
KRS|Gotyawallet: oh wow gox went down hard like the old days
KRS|Gotyawallet: i miss those days..cheap coin
pankkake: She not only has delicious tits
pankkake: she has infamous wits
pankkake: Her beautiful nose
pankkake: can't rival her insightful prose
mircea_popescu: and she'd also look much better with a curly mustache
pankkake: is that supposed to be 3D?
mircea_popescu: i think they just don't have nude beaches in paraguay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05 = 0.75 BTC
KRS|Gotyawallet: btw if mpex sells cex shares, i meant their mining offering directly from them 1ghash .07 btc.. i wasn't talking about securities
KRS|Gotyawallet: im looking to diversify a bit and pick up another investment
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 54201 @ 0.00010738 = 5.8201 BTC [+] {13}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 18 @ 0.17327776 = 3.119 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.13999999 BTC [+]
ozbot: Icelanders Overthrow Government and Rewrite Constitution After Banking Fraud-No Word From US Media
nubbins`: Kleeck: that's months old
nubbins`: maybe even last year
Kleeck: Added by Rebecca Savastio on December 2, 2013.
Kleeck: I'm in the US, so this is the first I've heard of it. :D
nubbins`: yeah, she's writing about an event that happened last year :D
nubbins`: either way, interesting story
Kleeck: Yup.
Kleeck: Very.
nubbins`: An “iReport” on CNN, written by a private citizen in May 2012, has questioned the reasons why this revolution has not been widely covered in the U.S.
Kleeck: In the US we would be labeled as terrorists.
Kleeck: Yes. The revolution was post 2008 economic collapse.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11925 @ 0.00087305 = 10.4111 BTC [+] {2}
Rulother: keep up Kleeck
Rulother: Thats some old news
Kleeck: I understand that the event is old. The article is about more than just the overthrow.
nubbins`: ;;echo SO OLD LELELEL WHAT ARE YOU DOING :D
gribble: SO OLD LELELEL WHAT ARE YOU DOING :D
pankkake: older than the internet!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00087598 = 13.3587 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 2994 @ 0.000115 = 0.3443 BTC [-]
manky: ;;ticker
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4622 @ 0.00088003 = 4.0675 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1166 @ 0.00011 = 0.1283 BTC [-] {2}
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
deadweasel: dammit gribs, lazy bot
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00087549 = 1.4883 BTC [-]
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.29249949 = 5.85 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.29209 = 2.3367 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.141 BTC [+]
ozbot: This finance expert thinks Bitcoin will fall 99 percent by June
ThickAsThieves: lucky if it falls to 99%
Duffer1: even i could be able to afford to buy back in if that happens, that would be amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
Duffer1: damn you assbot
pankkake: he probably hasn't the balls to bet on that though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00293604 = 0.5872 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 61 @ 0.02434538 = 1.4851 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.143 = 0.715 BTC [+] {3}
deadweasel: make a bitbet, send to author
ThickAsThieves: that article never bothers to make a point
ThickAsThieves: TLDR: Bitcoin will die cuz it has the most support of any crypto and cuz it's volatile and crashed this week. Btw, where can I buy bitcoins again?
mircea_popescu: "bitcoin will die because it upsets the world i'm familiar with"
mircea_popescu: "the government will prevent bitcoin from upsetting the world i'm familiar with"
mircea_popescu: "people who better adapt to things that upset the world i'm familiar with never get better pay, more attention and a nicer life than me"
mircea_popescu: basically bitcoin is the anti-religion : it exposes the implicit bible of everyone else.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00087549 = 17.2034 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.292061 = 0.5841 BTC [-]
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00087758 = 7.24 BTC [+]
ozbot: Bitcoin will die pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16425 @ 0.00087445 = 14.3628 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8075 @ 0.00087356 = 7.054 BTC [-]
mpexbot: deadweasel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.0008759 = 4.2481 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so romanian health ministry would not spring for a hospital in this small northern town. consequently, they changed the town name plaques on all the roads
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.29206066 = 0.8762 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: welcome to coas! drive carefully : we have six graveyards and not a single hospital
nubbins`: hahahaha
sbp: when we have to update signs in the UK, the councils complain that they cost too many hundreds of thousands of pounds to change. for the cost of changing those signs, maybe Coaș could have afforded a new hospital...
mircea_popescu: i doubt the whole story cost 5k
sbp: these days you can 3d print a hospital for 3k
assbot: Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1500616/plain/)
sbp: how's Cardano coming along, mircea_popescu? looking forward to it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05166332 = 0.31 BTC [+] {3}
sbp: I was reading asciilifeform's notes about RNG on Trilema earlier
mircea_popescu: well... work, you know ?
sbp: yeah
sbp: give it a cognitive nudge of interest from me though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00284155 = 0.1591 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is actually waking up at night because of the thing.
sbp: heh! awesome. well, awesome inasmuch as it doesn't distract him from Loper... :-)
mircea_popescu: i have my doubts whether he's eating properly.
sbp: well hopefully he doesn't end up like Gödel
deadweasel: pay a local homeless man to keep an eye on him.
mircea_popescu: wasn't godel the guy with two wives ?
sbp: not as far as I remember. logician who died of starvation because he believed he was being poisoned. (not very logical)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00255201 = 0.2144 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you're right, schroedinger had a girl with two women.
deadweasel: well, he kept one of them in a box, so it's debatable.
mircea_popescu: no, he kept milton (his cat) in the box
sbp: haha, Schrödinger seriously had a cat named Milton? great
sbp: you know, Heisenberg had twins. well, his wife did
sbp: after she gave birth, Pauli congratulated Heisenberg on pair production
sbp: should have asked him which was his favourite. he never could decide...
ozbot: Women report man openly performing sex act; he claims it was jock itch, cops say | lehighvall
mircea_popescu: don't be a jock, the police are cracking down.
deadweasel: lol, my junk was itchy, now I'm in jail.
mircea_popescu: i wasn't gonna scratch my cock
mircea_popescu: but then i got high... then i got high...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1445 BTC [+]
Kleeck: Courtesy of Crunchyarms: http://imgur.com/lmHvt4R
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 50 @ 0.00205 = 0.1025 BTC [-]
Kleeck: (Sidebar needs futher modification.)
deadweasel: the thc irritates my crabs, sir.
deadweasel: don't tase me bro?
mircea_popescu: Kleeck still, an envelope ?
sbp: keep a wallet in your browser
sbp: nothing can go wrong
sbp: nothing
Kleeck: Yeah. It took him 2 minutes. :) Still fits though, right. Mailing money?
Kleeck: Oh no.
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
Kleeck: Even more.
dexX7: hehe
Kleeck: Again, courtesy Crunchyarms.
ozbot: Toddler helps county decide order of candidates on primary ballot | Metro-east news | News Democrat
dexX7: lol goat makes news on reddit.. "someone on 4chan bought a lambo with 216 btc"
Kleeck: This is the dumbest video ever.
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 274372 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1819 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 14 hours, 3 minutes, and 49 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1034198923.97 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.85457
nubbins`: i'm always pleasantly surprised by the price of things in btc
nubbins`: like, i just realized a 3d printer is < 2 btc
nubbins`: what madness!
pankkake: sparecoins is aptly named
pankkake: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 1036361795.11 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days
pankkake: I want to believe that last 3 days thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [+]
sbp: nubbins`: start thinking of prices in mBTC. then you can say almost exactly the same thing in a year or so
mircea_popescu: haha well put sbp
sbp: somebody needs to work on a media friendly name for µBTC
sbp: we'll never need nBTC, unless they split the Satoshi
sbp: media friendly, not 4chan friendly
mircea_popescu: o o sorry my bad
FabianB: why not skip all the steps inbetween and go with satoshi
pankkake: I've seen millibit
mircea_popescu: tbh, this mili and micro stuff is nonsense.
mircea_popescu: we will use the 1/10000 unit
mircea_popescu: and the two sub units the cent and the millionth
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is base 2 not base 3.
nubbins`: why don't we just cobble together a series of retarded nonsensical names for all the different decimal places and use that?
nubbins`: 100 glaps to the quighorc, etc
sbp: please call one the quatloo...
mircea_popescu: lol. mmorpg square
mircea_popescu: sbp actually the 10k one makes sense as a quatloo
sbp: deal
sbp: quick, mine a block with "10k = quatloo!!!" in it
nubbins`: you'll need to reverse the terms or add another = ;)
sbp: blockchain notes should be called Sassamen
nubbins`: anyway, i'd want some way to make money off a 3d printer before i could justify buying one
FabianB: chinese (and i think japanese too) has words and characters for 10^4 and 10^8, none for 10^6 though, so much better for satoshi/btc
nubbins`: otherwise it's just another thing i don't have space for
nubbins`: myriads
mircea_popescu: FabianB say them ?
FabianB: in pinyin 10^4 is 'wan' and 10^8 'yi'
kanzure: sbp: hi
nubbins`: korean has 10^2, 3, 4, 8, 12, and every +4 thereafter
sbp: hey kanzure
nubbins`: up to almost 10^100, i think
dexX7: <mircea_popescu> tbh, this mili and micro stuff is nonsense. << well, it's easy to remember.. 1 millibit is approx 1 $
mike_c: nubbins`: sell snowflakes. http://www.shapeways.com/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.0008759 = 4.0291 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 145 @ 0.00255201 = 0.37 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: dexX7 not for long
sbp: (万 and 亿)
dexX7: hehe
dexX7: i like when you are bullish (if you are)
nubbins`: 10^4 units of korean won is about $10, so it's good they'd have a reasonably short name for it
ozbot: MPEx : one year of dividends pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
nubbins`: i don't think you're using the term "base" the way other people use it
FabianB: an mpex account is 30亿satoshi :)
mircea_popescu: the count of zeroes is also a number.
nubbins`: 30억 satoshi
mircea_popescu: i likethe sound of that
mircea_popescu: so 亿 is wan, which is the w part, the misshapen 1 or the insecure 2 ?
nubbins`: i agree on the half-length tho, i've been mentally digesting satoshi-denominated amounts this way to make sense of them for a while now
nubbins`: chinese characters make no sense to me
FabianB: mircea_popescu: no, 亿 is 'yi' (10^8)
nubbins`: korean is very logical, each block is a syllable composed of up to 3 sounds
FabianB: wan is 10k and 万
sbp: nubbins`: I tried learning Hangul once. I had problems doing the aspirated p, for some reason. I kept practicing it, but whatever I did, I could not make that damn aspirated p sound. it was driving me insane, so I looked into it carefully
sbp: eventually I realised that *all* of my p's are aspirated!
sbp: of course, then I had problems making a non-aspirated p...
nubbins`: heh. consonants are hard.
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nubbins`: how many times would i have to repeat my address to the taxi driver 10 times
nubbins`: "남양 아파트!!"
nubbins`: eventually he says
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.0008759 = 2.9781 BTC [+]
nubbins`: "ahhhhh! 남양 아파트!!"
nubbins`: completely indistinguishable from what i was saying
nubbins`: the double consonants are odd too
nubbins`: double d's and k's and stuff
sbp: yeah, faucalised
sbp: need to exercise your faucal cords, heh
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out man, slave coin. it's happening.
ozbot: [ANN] CPcoin, the first Child Friendly Coin
dexX7: is "Child Pageant" a friendly phrase for child porn?
mircea_popescu: in the sense mineral water is a friendly phrase for vodka
dexX7: hehe
mircea_popescu: i think child pageants is what soccer moms do after the thrill of control soccer provides is no longer enough
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pankkake: child pageants attendance 50% soccer mons 50% paedos
dexX7: i think the altcoin winner of the month is dogecoin
ozbot: Official DOGECOIN T-Shirt from Zazzle.com
asciilifeform: i expected DOGECOIN to involve old Venice / slave trade...
pankkake: it's from a meme I never understood, but I loled anyway https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361813.0
dexX7: haha yea, that's it
dexX7: most active altcoin thread for some days now
pankkake: fucking 46 pages lol
mircea_popescu: o wait. not just a logo, also a zazzle shirt ?
mircea_popescu: wow it doesn't ? what a letdown.
pankkake: I'll buy the physical coins
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0029436 = 0.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00088012 = 6.4249 BTC [+] {2}
sbp: mircea_popescu: Knuth cheats at email, by the way
sbp: he sent an hilarious email to a team that a friend of mine was involved in, in about 2005 or so
sbp: but he got his secretary to send it... :-)
mircea_popescu: kinda like me and the forum.
asciilifeform: or the pope's 'twitter' account, etc.
sbp: I love that they deleted all the old pope's tweets
mircea_popescu: who does the pope on twitter ? jesys ?
asciilifeform: richard stallman is also well known for having minions check his mail (and even load pages)
sbp: bet they didn't do that in the Vatican Library too. set fire to all of Benedict's papers
pigeons: well the idea of a secretary is that he/sh checks your mail so you can work
asciilifeform: division of labour. most of us pay other people to slaughter and gut animals for the table. what's the problem in doing the same with email, if you can afford it...
mircea_popescu: sbp at some point they used to.
kanzure: sbp: would be nice if the pope starts using btc. then church finances become slightly more auditable.
mircea_popescu: Look folks, I know that software rot (sometimes called "progress")
mircea_popescu: keeps growing, and backwards compatibility is not always possible.
kanzure: that's just a clever way of saying "you do it"
mircea_popescu: he mirrors quite exacrtly why i quit caring about html validation and "validity" in general, circa 2007
mircea_popescu: blessfully ignorant of the guy's pov. but fuck you html standards people.
mircea_popescu: this is one of those situations where the spec may only grow. you're free to add css into the spec, but you are not allowed to "stop supporting" table elements or w/e
ozbot: We Have Chosen Shame and Will Get War.
mircea_popescu: Make a graph with time on the x-axis and formatting capabilities on the y-axis. Draw a line from the HTML level 1 to HTML level 3. You'll see that HTML reaches LaTeX's level of formatting capability around the year 2000.
mircea_popescu: If we are going to get there eventually, we might as well get there soon.
mircea_popescu: ha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
mircea_popescu: o kill me dead.
mircea_popescu: ;;bcstats
gribble: Current Blocks: 274385 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1806 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 33 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1051660720.0 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.77693
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC
ozbot: pankkake / asslyrics
nubbins`: LaTeX is great
pankkake: but ugly
nubbins`: only when you're creating it.
nubbins`: looks beautiful once you're done ;D
nubbins`: dogecoin << would buy
benkay: unfortunately most designers can only gui and so we have pdf. huzzah.
mircea_popescu: people who can only gui are not designers.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "most engineers can only autocad"
asciilifeform: laugh, but this has become an actual fact.
benkay: "designers", then.
mircea_popescu: pankkake this ain't a penis contest, it doesn't have to be long, it has to be thick
mircea_popescu: nm, on second thought it is a penis contest.
asciilifeform: 'it will be long, it will be hard, and there shall be no withdrawal'...
pankkake: well this one is pretty much an egotrip, and you should be an endless source of that
dexX7: there was a small discussion about korean ips monitors with ThickAsThieves and kakobrekla some weeks ago.. i ended up buying two dell u2412m and had a 27" here earlier, but it was too big. but i have to say: ips displays are nice
mircea_popescu: how's the girl gonna sing it then lol
sbp: kanzure: Snoop Dogg is into BTC, don't see why Francis I shouldn't be next
pankkake: I wouldn't go back to anything non IPS
pankkake: pretty much requirement number one for a place of work
pankkake: cause Francis is a communist
asciilifeform: the rhyme reminds me of another: http://blog.sayan.ee/a-birthday-poem/
mircea_popescu: ;;google "it will be long; it will be hard; and there shall be no withdrawal."
gribble: Percocet withdrawals, how long do they last? - Addiction: Substance ...: <http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Addiction-Substance-Abuse/Percocet-withdrawals--how-long-do-they-last/show/55002>; How To Detox From Opiates At Home - Withdrawal Ease: <http://www.withdrawal-ease.com/how-to-detox-from-opiates-at-home/>; Alcohol Withdrawal Symptoms Can Make It Hard to Quit Drinking: (1 more message)
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asciilifeform: winston c.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only google hit on the actual quoted string comes from files.meetup.com/8900962/Review%20Chap.%203-4%20Gurl-Posse.doc
mircea_popescu: which i find strangely strengthens your point
pankkake: Gurl Posse lol
mircea_popescu: pankkake a REVIEW thereof.
mircea_popescu: it just blew my mind.
pankkake: google book search can often give you strange results
asciilifeform: just the question of what is a 'gurl', one could think about for a while.
mircea_popescu: http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mean_girls_picture.bmp << who's the awkward / uncomfortable chick on the left ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a gurl is a waitress past her 30th bday.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21450 @ 0.00087902 = 18.855 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: rarely, a younger girl that will be a waitress past 30.
asciilifeform: that's more or less: usa in one sentence.
TomServo: dexX7: was anything larger recommended?
dexX7: there are super cheap (but worth) 27" ips displays from korea on ebay
asciilifeform: amusingly, loan word 'герла' is more or less equivalent in meaning to 'gurl' above.
dexX7: but it's too big imho
TomServo: I've looked at those, but have always been hesitant
pankkake: ;;ud gurl
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gurl | the way of spelling girl, favourd by girls below the age of 14 or dyslexics.
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: gurl
nubbins`: doge is maybe the best meme yet
nubbins`: just putting it out there
asciilifeform: 27 inch proper 'Eizo'. 600 or so usd, ebay, new. perhaps it 'fell off truck'
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what is it ?
nubbins`: just a japanese dog with a lelly face usually accompanied by engrish nonsense in neon comic sans ms
asciilifeform: 16:9 lcd is mostly worthless unless you turn it, though.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also amusingly, gherla is romania's largest, most infamous prison and also an informal way to say "prison" in general.
TomServo: Yeah, I'd prefer 16:10
dexX7: lol
sbp: mircea_popescu: Lindsay Lohan, by the looks
mircea_popescu: wow she was that young once huh.
dexX7: awesome
mircea_popescu: such azn.
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asciilifeform: i'd love to buy an lcd, 2 M or so diagonal. but it would need to have at least the same pixel density as the eizo.
nubbins`: nod, that's what caused me to bring it up
sbp: oh, heh
nubbins`: ^ leel
nubbins`: much doge
wao-ender: oh dogecoin finally arrived here
nubbins`: ahahahaha
dexX7: :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was gonna do that lol. much better. such meme now.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: (unrelated) shirts are in. thanks!
nubbins`: ah, great! cheers
nubbins`: how'd the box hold up?
asciilifeform: dour old woman at post office: 'how the hell did you get this through customs without a name'
mircea_popescu: did you tell her "power of bitcoin, lady" ?
nubbins`: haha
nubbins`: i should probably start putting a full return address on these packages, too
ozbot: Main/Black Best Friend - Television Tropes & Idioms
nubbins`: altho to be fair you only need those 8 characters
asciilifeform: box came in entirely virginal.
mircea_popescu: tvtropes is such wow.
nubbins`: good news
nubbins`: haha, first comment
nubbins`: "doge mystery" "no explain"
kakobrekla: dexX7 yeah i got 4 so far
kakobrekla: and prolly will add 1 more
dexX7: lol :D
kakobrekla: thats the max i can hook up
kakobrekla: well, without the external adapters anyway
asciilifeform: speaking of bizarre: from the text of a spam sample: 'purchase extreme intestinal activity station'.
dexX7: five should be enough, i guess?
mircea_popescu: since we're doing spam, Hi My name is Anastasia. I am from Russia. It may surprise you, enjoy
kakobrekla: no spam
mircea_popescu: hm. you think ?
kakobrekla: it says so right on the .. .eh.. nevermind
nubbins`: asciilifeform: so, an industrial sausage stuffer.
asciilifeform: since we're doing hardware minutiae: anyone know of a modern ECC mobo?
asciilifeform: i'd prefer not to live with my '07 Tyan for ever
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: best spam subject i've ever received is "Turn your peanut into a banana"
pankkake: spammers are extremely creative in avoiding the word penis now, it's amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
asciilifeform: pankkake: '...come grasp the mighty phoenis of our Leader...'
asciilifeform: 'btc! greatest blockchain in the wurld; all other blockchains are run by little gurls...'
mircea_popescu: actually, i would wager a guess that the disk space of btc blockchain > disk space of all other altcoins combined
asciilifeform: this is hardly surprising.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5998 @ 0.00087892 = 5.2718 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: although i'd also be surprised if altcoin aficionados don't take to bloating their chains to 'look relevant'.
ozbot: 3D printer by Sask. man gets record crowdsourced cash - Saskatchewan - CBC News
nubbins`: that's a crazy way to print
asciilifeform: not new
asciilifeform: that was actually the original '3d printer'
asciilifeform: in the '70s.
asciilifeform: it was even mentioned in soviet 'наука и жизнь' mag ('science & life', similar to 'scientific american')
nubbins`: oh ya?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well now that it was said, definitely.
mircea_popescu: before, not likely. these people are not inovators, after all.
mircea_popescu: so it's useful in retrospect.
ozbot: Animaniacs Variety Speak 2 - YouTube
asciilifeform: actually the fellow in the link did make a useful twist
asciilifeform: moving the 'z' platform by draining a tank (a la ancient greek 'klepsydra' clock) instead of a stepper motor.
pankkake: if you exclude namecoin, and the datacoin aberration, probably
pankkake: oh well, namecoin is only 1.5G :o
asciilifeform: problem with stereolithography is that you need a foul-smelling, poisonous, and quite expensive liquid polymer.
mircea_popescu: har har pankkake :D
asciilifeform: and the resulting product is quite brittle.
mircea_popescu: and the datacoin thing was what, 50mb ?
nubbins`: these resins seem to remain flexible once cured
nubbins`: but yeah, consumables cost is probably through the roof
pankkake: it's still a thing, allows big things to be stored at once. still at this time it's probably nothing
asciilifeform: you can buy uv-cured 'rubber', yes.
pankkake: litecoin 2.2G
nubbins`: ah, $60 per liter
asciilifeform: i still don't get why '3d printer' is so fashionable.
nubbins`: interesting that it uses audio to transmit the information
nubbins`: asciilifeform: it's the ultimate novelty.
pankkake: for people who don't know how to build things
pankkake: (like me :p)
asciilifeform: i mean, i get the usefulness of wangling together mechanical prototypes without the dust of machining, etc.
asciilifeform: but why the mass hysteria
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 1047921554.97 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days
nubbins`: asciilifeform: for most of the public, it's a solution in search of a problem
nubbins`: but if you've got a need for rapid prototyping, these things are worth their weight in gold
pankkake: well I'm sure it would make buying some products obsolete
nubbins`: i don't doubt that most of the 3d printers in people's homes were used to make a couple sets of chess pieces and now sit idle
pankkake: is it safe for sex toys? I fear it isn't, but that would be a great use
nubbins`: generally sex toys aren't made from hard plastic
asciilifeform: extrusion printer usually gives a rough surface
nubbins`: replacement battery covers for sex toys, sure
asciilifeform: but one can sand it smooth, or coat it in something
nubbins`: stomb boxes for guitar fx pedals
pankkake: anything porous is a bad idea
nubbins`: *stomp
nubbins`: yeah, 3d printed sex toy would actually be a bacteria factory
benkay: if you pour metals 3d printers are the bomb for casting
pankkake: it's a great solution for replacement parts in general yeah
nubbins`: benkay, good point
asciilifeform: dip it in 'plasti-dip'
nubbins`: re:plasti-dip
nubbins`: i've seen lots of tools made with 3d printers
benkay: your metals just burn the plastic out of the casting
nubbins`: hemostats, pliers, tweezers, screwdriver grips, etc
benkay: obviously takes some tweaking, but totally feasible.
benkay: and the impossible-to-machine rib-holding-together-hardware, nubbins`
asciilifeform: benkay: two-step mold process. positive shape, wedge into clay for negative mold, bake, cast metal.
benkay: but man the ludicrous shit those poor companies struggling under the fda have to deal with
benkay: asciilifeform: yes, that is a casting process.
nubbins`: asciilifeform: i think benkay is thinking similar to a lost wax process
benkay: ^^
asciilifeform: i've thought about ways to electrolytically replace a (conductive) plastic with metal.
asciilifeform: but life is short.
nubbins`: sadly, not enough time to learn it all
benkay: i start over on a new domain every four years, i think.
asciilifeform: (for those who have no truck with 3d printing or the like, this isn't something which afaik exists.)
benkay: just enough time to become baseline competent but not anywhere near good.
asciilifeform: (currently there is only metal sintering, under noble gas. $0.5M.)
nubbins`: well there's short-term things and long-term things
nubbins`: coffee roasting was a short-term
nubbins`: printing is a long-term
nubbins`: you can generally tell by how much space you're willing to let something take up in your house
asciilifeform: the funniest part of the 3d printing in the popular media is the 'plastic gun.'
benkay: preach about the plastic gun, asciilifeform
nubbins`: asciilifeform: not a fucking chance would i put gunpowder inside anything i printed myself
asciilifeform: not that such a thing is impossible: medieval Korea had: leather cannon!
benkay: the gutters are full of humans eager to test the 20 dollar disposable firearm.
asciilifeform: wonder if anybody's fed Plastique into a 3d extruder.
nubbins`: haha
truffles: ban 3d printers
asciilifeform: 'there are many 3d printed doorknobs, but this one - is special!'
mircea_popescu: the problems only begin there. firearms are mostly an obsolete technology.
benkay: how so obsolete?
mircea_popescu: you can get armor good enough to render any handheld firearm useless.
truffles: boom headshot
nubbins`: but does it fit over your face?
mircea_popescu: notice that the serious bank robbers etc use very heavy assault weapons
asciilifeform: armor is a tricky business
mircea_popescu: and that only worked up to about 2005 or so
benkay: can you armor the entire ghetto block squad?
asciilifeform: the people to whom the question applies have a rather lukewarm enthusiasm for it.
nubbins`: ah, i always figured the assault weapons were more for show
nubbins`: "these guys must be REALLY serious!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see North Hollywood shootout etc. not that tricky.
mircea_popescu: a solved problem for > a decade by now
deadweasel: that was a great one
asciilifeform: state-of-the-art ceramic plate is rated for: 1 ak round.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10921 @ 0.00088531 = 9.6685 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: heavy, sweaty.
mircea_popescu: going on two decades.
ozbot: North Hollywood Shootout - YouTube
asciilifeform: american grunts are issued 'kevlar', but tend to throw it out. and they, oddly, won't sleep in it.
asciilifeform: not to mention other fine point: armor sets you up for blunt trauma.
asciilifeform: the kinetic energy still has to go somewhere...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reference was aramid. it withstood > 1k rounds from .38 and 9mm, as well as single action pump shotguns
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asciilifeform: this is entirely plausible
asciilifeform: soft lead.
asciilifeform: but try finding a vendor willing to stand in it for target practice, for ten rounds much less a thousand.
asciilifeform: broken ribs.
asciilifeform: nobody cancelled newton's laws...
truffles: "patrol officers at the time were typically armed with a 9mm or .40 caliber pistol on their person, with a 12-gauge shotgun available in their cars. Phillips and Matasareanu carried fully automatic rifles and wore body armor. Since most handgun calibers cannot penetrate body armor, patrol officers had a significant disadvantage until SWAT arrived with equivalent firepower; they also
truffles: appropriated several semi-automatic rifles from a nearby firearms dealer to help even the odds. "
mircea_popescu: yes well, the story is this : two robbers with body armor did more damage to the city policeman pension and health insurance funds than would have been the case if they just let them keep the stolen money.
truffles: seems like its solved all round
mircea_popescu: even if you maange to print a gun, you will print a useless gun.
mircea_popescu: you need something very powerful to be able to do anything with it.
benkay: that's not the use case though. the use case is shitty guns for poor people in the decaying soviet states of america
mircea_popescu: benkay amusingly, amlar is easier to print than a gun.
asciilifeform: benkay: hardware store (or junkyard.) steel pipe.
asciilifeform: see harlan ellison's memoir of his '50s childhood
deadweasel: boomstick
asciilifeform: or virtually any work on prison weapons
benkay: amlar?
mircea_popescu: benkay aromatic polyamide. like kevlar, but with aroma.
the20year: Pretty easy to make a firearm out of supplies from tesco
asciilifeform: wait till people remember that kevlar (and other fiber armour) is useless against: arrows.
benkay: dahaha
the20year: asciilifeform: most current plates use ceramic which disperses the kenetic energy over a wide area, avoiding blunt tramua. Small arms fire has an amazingly low amount of kenetic energy compared to common measurements
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the20year: asciilifeform: depends on which kind of kevlar vest you're talking about
mircea_popescu: also, it's easier to protect the head than the body.
mircea_popescu: bulletproof transparent rigid plastic was available before flexible stuff was.
mircea_popescu: the20year in fact, the kinetic energy of the bullet is roughly equal to the kinetic energy of the recoil.
asciilifeform: take simple example. ordinary ak round, ~2kJ (muzzle)
mircea_popescu: consequently, there's a limit to how heavy a round can be fired from the hand
asciilifeform: let's say 1kJ on impact, for the sake of argument.
mircea_popescu: and the thing is, armor has surpassed this minimum. handheld firearms are not particularly useful these days
mircea_popescu: (which is the REAL reason for the move towards tasers, not the feigned desire to avoid casualties)
asciilifeform: 1kJ applied to a head with impenetrable armor -> neck trauma
asciilifeform: unless you're willing to wear the equivalent of a 19th century diving suit
benkay: all this fighting talk is causing thoughts of chumpatrons based on armor and weapons
asciilifeform: the phuture, if one insists, is in the self-aiming rifle.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform depends a lot on the angle.
asciilifeform: like those pocket cameras that highlight faces.
mircea_popescu: people regularly take kj's to the head in most sports.
deadweasel: i think we should test these theories. somebody get me some armor, I'll youtube the experiments per your instructions. Only have 9mm and .40 for testing
deadweasel: i'm not sure if I'm joking
deadweasel: only one way to find out
mircea_popescu: deadweasel you can always use a dummy
mircea_popescu: like the car crash dummies
deadweasel: boring
mircea_popescu: not that this hasn't been done.
deadweasel: so boring
asciilifeform: phun phact: archduke ferdinand is said to have worn an early bulletproof vest.
asciilifeform: at the time of his death.
deadweasel: watching body armor video tests can be mesmerizing
asciilifeform: headshot
the20year: You could do what the military and FBI does....
the20year: But who cares about pre-existing data? Everyone has to discover for themselves ,right?
truffles: hide?
mircea_popescu: <the20year> But who cares about pre-existing data? Everyone has to discover for themselves ,right? <<< qft.
deadweasel: qft? quite fucking true?
mircea_popescu: quoted for truth
truffles: quoted for
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wasn't he killed by a bomb ?
the20year: No, he was shot close range with a little pistol
deadweasel: i'm puncy as hell today, somebody shoot me already
mircea_popescu: o it was the russian guy that was bombed.
asciilifeform: legend has it that submarine architects were once made to take a trip to max depth before the machine would be paid for.
asciilifeform: no reason why this shouldn't apply to armour makers.
the20year: don't you look at armor tests?
the20year: Some armor makers do put their armor on and get shot, i wouldn't due it due to spall, but some believe that much in their product
asciilifeform: arms vs. armour is a classic race that the latter tends to lose. witness 'reactive armour' on tank.
asciilifeform: the pill against it: round with two warheads.
the20year: It's usually a endless cycle of bigger armor being beaten by a bigger gun , IE ww2 f or instance
asciilifeform: or simple good aim (hit same spot twice.0
mircea_popescu: "while Mătăsăreanu's chest armor even successfully withstood a hit from a SWAT operator's AR-15"
mircea_popescu: no, srsly.
asciilifeform: it will be interesting to see reactive armor built for a man
asciilifeform: rather than tank
the20year: Most rifles won't make it through AR500 steel plate
the20year: It's stupidly easy to make body armor that will withstand most conventional rifle ammo, granted it's quite heavy
asciilifeform: the20year: ask a soldier how much he'd like to wear plate mail.
the20year: Why the heck would anyone want reactive armor on their body? The concussion would kill you when it activated
the20year: Well, most wear ceramic armor that's stronger than AR500, so many do
the20year: I know my brother in law did, when he was in iraq
asciilifeform: there are men strong enough to run about, climb, etc. in plate mail, yes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let me find you that quote re armor.
the20year: The average soldier carries about 100lbs of gear into battle, so 20lb of armor isn't a big deal. thus why the US military is testing powered armor
truffles: theyve got drones now
asciilifeform: i attended an interesting talk once by a concussion expert
the20year: And still want boots on the ground, so....
the20year: Drones can always be defeated
truffles: they look intimidating
truffles: the massive ones with legs
the20year: Oh well
mircea_popescu: From the foundation of the city till the reign of the Emperor Gratian, the foot wore cuirasses and helmets. But negligence and sloth having by degrees introduced a total relaxation of discipline, the soldiers began to think their armor too heavy, as they seldom put it on. They first requested leave from the Emperor to lay aside the cuirass and afterwards the helmet. In consequence of this, our troops in their engagemen
mircea_popescu: ts with the Goths were often overwhelmed with their showers of arrows. Nor was the necessity of obliging the infantry to resume their cuirasses and helmets discovered, notwithstanding such repeated defeats, which brought on the destruction of so many great cities. Troops, defenseless and exposed to all the weapons of the enemy, are more disposed to fly than fight. What can be expected from a foot-archer without cuirass
mircea_popescu: or helmet, who cannot hold at once his bow and shield; or from the ensigns whose bodies are naked, and who cannot at the same time carry a shield and the colors? The foot soldier finds the weight of a cuirass and even of a helmet intolerable. This is because he is so seldom exercised and rarely puts them on.
asciilifeform: he had a computer model which explained why certain - helmeted - men ended up with brain damage, while grunts in the same vehicle, sans helmet, didn't.
asciilifeform: the helmet focused the shock wave.
asciilifeform: not that armour is worthless - simply that reality is a complicated place.
truffles: or we're not that advance yet
mircea_popescu: reality may be a complicated place, but the tactical utility of printed guns is still purely imaginary.
the20year: correct
mircea_popescu: even if you get them to shoot safely, you're far far away from them shooting energetically enough to count
the20year: The real use for 3d printed guns (in the US at least) is to make ones that utilize the homebuilding law so they're not on paperwork
asciilifeform: printed crossbow could conceivably be of some use.
the20year: Why is printing important?
mircea_popescu: it's much easier to make a crossvbow than to print one
benkay: i am more convinced than i was an hour ago on the printable guns thing
the20year: tabletop CnC is cheap and you can make just about any firearm you want with one
asciilifeform: some people seems to fetishize the process of 'push a button without thinking'
mircea_popescu: i could make you one within the hour, and teach you to make one in a day
the20year: and lathes and milling machines have existed for 100 years
asciilifeform: which is why 3d printer is a mass topic at all
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ya well those people also have nil tactical utility-value.
the20year: Think about it , the first belt fed machine gun was made in the late 1800s, do you think that the technology to make it has magically disappeared?
asciilifeform: in afghanistan, in africa, blacksmiths build perfectly good ak clones with hand tools.
asciilifeform: not rocket surgery here.
the20year: COrrect
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asciilifeform: modern ammunition, on the other hand, requires industry.
the20year: How so
mircea_popescu: you can mix your own powder and make your own bullets just fine
asciilifeform: certainly, for a musket.
mircea_popescu: just reuse the casings :D
mircea_popescu: they did it in fallout!
the20year: Brass casings are reusable, gunpowder can be made cheaply/effectiely from easy to procure chemcicals , the bullet is the easiest part itself to mak
the20year: *make
benkay: yes but xbows
benkay: i am a convince.
mircea_popescu: the20year he has a point tho, in the sense of brass casingsd are reusable for a finite number of shots.
asciilifeform: primers are tricky
the20year: Plus i'm not aware of any country that has made brass cases illegal
the20year: Not exactly
the20year: Casings can last over 50 times if you download the ammo, which you will be doing anyway with homemade powder
mircea_popescu: over 50 times is finite.
the20year: Primers are easy to make, the chemical composition is 150 years old
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the20year: Well, if you want infinite, then just make your own cases
asciilifeform: if you're in a real bind, you might want to go with liquid propellant and electrical priming.
mircea_popescu: which requires some industry. is all i was saying.
the20year: Why? conventional powder and primer compound is cheap and effective
the20year: If by industry you mean a guy with a set of presses and punches, sure
asciilifeform: cheap is a tricky concept. a plastic fork is cheap, until it isn't, and is entirely unobtainable
the20year: But remember, during WW2 most ammo in the USSR was being made by giving children the tools to do it
asciilifeform: if you have to make it with your own hands
the20year: asciilifeform: $50 will get you enough priming compound to load 10,000 rounds of ammunition
asciilifeform: today. in a civilized place.
mircea_popescu: ha, since i was going through old tomes, look what a gem i found :
mircea_popescu: "Although these men differ in customs and language from those with whom they have taken refuge, and are unaccustomed too, if I may say so, to the nauseous odor of the bodies and clothing of the barbarians, yet they prefer the strange life they find there to the injustice rife among the Romans."
mircea_popescu: " So you find men passing over everywhere, now to the Goths, now to the Bagaudae, or whatever other barbarians have established their power anywhere ... We call those men rebels and utterly abandoned, whom we ourselves have forced into crime. For by what other causes were they made Bagaudae save by our unjust acts, the wicked decisions of the magistrates, the proscription and extortion of those who have turned the publ
mircea_popescu: ic exactions to the increase of their private fortunes and made the tax indictions their opportunity for plunder?"
the20year: If this is all theoretical then, just stock up on ammo if you live in the US , or reloading components
asciilifeform: the20year: this is a tremendously-popular hobby here.
the20year: what hobby? WHere is here?
the20year: Easy to buy ammo and stock up in the US
the20year: There's absolutely no reason in worrying about all this theoretical stuff, just buy cheap and stack deep if you live here
asciilifeform: the original discussion was, i think, about what could in principle be made with one's own hands, out of commonly-available raw materials
the20year: Then your answer is - Submachine guns
the20year: If you want to go the firearms route
asciilifeform: the gun is the easy part
asciilifeform: that was the point
the20year: Ammo isn't too bad if you want to set up the process ,or just make a muzzleloader
asciilifeform: muzzle-loading submachine gun?
the20year: just a muzzleloader
asciilifeform: point remains, that the military significance of 3d printer is small, while that of the hand file and forge, remains great.
the20year: Correct
the20year: The Sten and PPS-43 were both primarily made by children during ww2, and they are still being used around the world today
the20year: Both at a cost of just a few dollar (equivilent) at the time
asciilifeform: right. 'open bolt' schema is easy to manufacture, and for that (among other reasons) is forbidden in the u.s.
the20year: Up until 1980 :D
the20year: Technically, if you can find a open-bolt gun that was made prior to 1980 it's still legal
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asciilifeform: i recall reading that they're bought and sold rather like famous paintings.
asciilifeform: with traceable pedigree, etc.
the20year: It's easy to find and date them based on serial numbers, sales price is quite high though, around $2,000 for a tec-9 or 22 that sold for say $150 prior to 1980
asciilifeform: interesting
the20year: Same with guns manufactured prior to 1898 that aren't considered firearms anymore
the20year: Even though they might take modern cartridges
asciilifeform: how did it come about that they aren't considered arms?
the20year: That's just hte cutoff date
ozbot: Antique gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the20year: I have a 1895 mauser that's an antique....is an absolutely awesome rifle
asciilifeform: this legal oddity rings a bell. i once wandered into an antique shop near wash. dc, and they had an Ottoman musket for sale. no paperwork, etc.
the20year: Anything prior to 1899 is legal , granted some states have other rules. Sadly the maxim and potato digger aren't covered
asciilifeform: potato digger?
ozbot: M1895 Colt-Browning machine gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the20year: First US made machine gun
truffles: imagine if they had those back in the day
truffles: line up and spray
the20year: in what day?
the20year: They were used from the late 1800s through ww2
truffles: 1800s ?
the20year: Maxim is still being used today
truffles: ok 1600s
the20year: Well, in the 1700s you had the giardoni air rifle which was a rapid fire gun
asciilifeform: the one where the air bottle sometimes burst?
the20year: Yeah
asciilifeform: famous 'before their time' techno masterpiece...
the20year: Granted if you want to see what happens when you use line warfar against machine guns, just take a look at ww1
the20year: would have been no different than 1800s, 1700s, 1600s - massed infantry in static lines trying to take positions held by machine guns
asciilifeform: technologically-mismatched battles are a curious fetish among some people
asciilifeform: maxim against cavalry, 'drone' against rusty truck in afghanistan...
the20year: Sure, but if you're curious what happens, there's plenty of information out there on when it does ocurr
asciilifeform: maxim vs. zulu, perhaps most famously
the20year: Or italian cavalry in ww2 attacking soviet positions, a bayonette charge in iraq in 2004, the last usage of a sword in combat in vietnam , ect
asciilifeform: there are persistent rumours of a Polish ww2 lance charge against a tank column.
the20year: Rourkes drift comes pretty close to that
asciilifeform: for further anachronism value: chariots (albeit with maxim) saw plentiful action in the russian civil war.
mircea_popescu: a trained man with a sword is a better asset in close quarters than dudes with guns
the20year: Yeah
mircea_popescu: course that training is prohibitively expensive
the20year: Thus why police have the 21ft rule
asciilifeform: "an officer without a sword is improperly dressed"
mircea_popescu: so it's not really practical, from a strategic perspective. nevertheless...
ozbot: Jack Churchill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the20year: soldiers still carry bayonettes
mircea_popescu: the20year and don't know how to use them
the20year: Tell that to the scotts
mircea_popescu: i just meant generally.
the20year: I don't know , when i talked to a guy in 2003-4 about his time in Iraq, he seemed to indicate his unit trained with them. I do believe the marines still train
mircea_popescu: people all over the us train in reading and writing.
mircea_popescu: so what of it ?
nubbins`: ^ leel
nubbins`: point of the day
the20year: Eh, i'd bet money there are plenty that still could use them effectively
mircea_popescu: no argument there.
mircea_popescu: an army however is about the weakest not the strongest link
asciilifeform: if i recall, bayonet is the original 'MAD' weapon
mircea_popescu: (which is why the us army has been evolving towards smaller and smaller units as the quality of recruits sunk)
asciilifeform: in that most bayonet charges did not end with a mass perforation, but with one side fleeing
the20year: Yeah, that's been the US tradition for a while though
the20year: except in vietnam with the US army
mircea_popescu: so in the most recent rng tests for the cardano we now see Entropy = 7.999926 bits per byte.
mircea_popescu: Monte Carlo value for Pi is 3.141602161 ; Serial correlation coefficient is 0.000435
Apocalyptic: that's brutally great
mircea_popescu: i daresay this is the best 2,5mb random sample i ever did see
nubbins`: awesome
mircea_popescu: it's definitely up there.
pankkake: too good to be true, scam
nubbins`: are the final dimensions known?
mircea_popescu: for the benefit of "i can write a website too!" crowd : this is the result of removing about 14 different bias sources
asciilifeform: 2 x 3 inch.
mircea_popescu: which "weren't there" when we begun taking them out
nubbins`: ah, smaller than a business card
nubbins`: height?
asciilifeform: ~1 tall
nubbins`: that's nice
asciilifeform: runs on a CR2450
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nubbins`: ah nice
nubbins`: those are less than a buck each in quantity
asciilifeform: correct.
nubbins`: micro-usb in?
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Vexual: g'day gents
truffles: hello mate
Vexual: howzit?
truffles: alrighty mate, just sips of tea
Vexual: lovely jubly
Vexual: foundation says no more 9.9k free tx
asciilifeform: didn't 'foundation' also say 'no more tx except from u.s. gov. approved addrs' ?
asciilifeform: or was that a dream
Vexual: yes, perhaps 10k wont print to a4 at the requisite font size
ozbot: Bitcoined « Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic.
mircea_popescu: lol romanians heard of bitcoin nao ?
mircea_popescu: this is the end days.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.14699999 = 0.441 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC
ozbot: Famous last words « Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic.
Vexual: ;see...
ozbot: Clean job « Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic.
Vexual: standardize, protect, and promote
Vexual: different departments?
Vexual: Although Bitcoin is not anonymous by default, Bitcoin addresses were not a factor in solving the case. <from the protect dept
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.30475792 = 0.9143 BTC [-]
Vexual: While official federal policy as developed in the agencies ... ...
Vexual: our membership does
Vexual: not rely on cable television for its information
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00089302 = 4.1079 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09003333 = 0.2701 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2920602 BTC [-]
kanzure: since second market already bought 68,000 btc, why does everyone keep thinking they will see activity on mtgox etc?
Diablo-D3: +ticker
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
Diablo-D3: eat a dfick
truffles: Diablo-D3 ive been looking at this domestic man paleo site
truffles: so much yum
Diablo-D3: truffles: url?
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ozbot: Shirred Eggs with Sausage and Spinach | The Domestic Man
Diablo-D3: truffles: oh dear god
Diablo-D3: that looks delicious
truffles: i know
truffles: im thinking of what to use instead of those
truffles: or in combo's
Vexual: my quiche has too much crust :(
Vexual: caveman my arse
truffles: thinly sliced chicken maybe
truffles: did u know that watermelon rinds could be pickled!
jurov: SPAM is not Paleo lol
sbp: yeah, everybody knows SPAM is Viking
Vexual: can on
Vexual: crunchy
truffles: im just looking at easy to make stuff that isnt too fatty, not really into paleo
pankkake: too fattening you mean?
truffles: gotta prepare for the xmas gain
pankkake: paleo is all about loving the good fat :)
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Diablo-D3: [06:56:10] <jurov> SPAM is not Paleo lol
Diablo-D3: theres no spam in that
pankkake: he meant the canned food. I guess
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mircea_popescu: can you pickle fat ?
ozbot: Penis licker | Flickr - Photo Sharing
mircea_popescu: melon rinds, fattie rinds, all the same.
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truffles: spring rolls!
deadweasel: two roasted chickens
truffles: one isnt enough eh
deadweasel: eating alone?
deadweasel: go find a hobo
deadweasel: feed him chicken
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truffles: i try not to make solo "meals"
deadweasel: so what are you gonna make?
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deadweasel: don't leave me hangin' bro
truffles: cant make the stuff there, dont have ingredients, but i do plan on making meat ball stew/soup
truffles: yea hopefully i dont have to eat it all!
deadweasel: it's a problem.. i ate 3/4 of a casserole last night. good luck, i haven't figured that one out.
truffles: ur gf is picky eater?
truffles: u said u got a "new" gf 2 days ago or so
deadweasel: so far she has eaten everything I've fed her.
deadweasel: no pun intended.
truffles: haha
mircea_popescu: no punis intended ?
deadweasel: no, penis tended.
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benkay: penis tendered!
deadweasel: slightly tenderized.
deadweasel: her your receipt, mam
deadweasel: here*
benkay: hold up i gotta tender some cock
mircea_popescu: turgid ball soup
mircea_popescu: sounds like an azn eatery.
deadweasel: it's probably tasty.
truffles: a man should eat what is presented to him though
truffles: good for her not being picky
deadweasel: let us know truf
deadweasel: i ate all stuff too, no worries there. :)
deadweasel: words not making to kb
truffles: ure not talking about food anymore im guessing
deadweasel: no, she bought brunch
deadweasel: go eat your turgid balls and bring pics
truffles: thats for tomorrow
truffles: i could do something different
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mircea_popescu: this is how you know you're top dog, noobs come to abuse your open comments to spamvertise their shit.
pankkake: "This is Bitcoin, which is worse than life."
kakobrekla: yeah, you can end life. you cant end bitcoin.
pankkake: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 1027632809.34 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days
pankkake: I so want it to be No
mircea_popescu: it was 1050 last iirc
mircea_popescu: flagging a little. this is gonna be a nailbiter
kakobrekla: also mp, captcha not hard enough
thestringpuller: yea why is the captcha always the same
kakobrekla: because you only need to prove you are smart once
deadweasel: Anonymous 07-12-13 at 15:36
deadweasel: If more kids starved in america there would be no snackmans
deadweasel: ok, who was that?
kakobrekla: prolly anon
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2920001 BTC [-]
deadweasel: noway
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla> because you only need to prove you are smart once << win
pankkake: that's very true, the first time I saw that captcha I think I was too lazy and closed the tab
mircea_popescu: captcha should probably be "name the last woman that gave you a fair lay"
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truffles: none
mircea_popescu: if someone named their daughter None
mircea_popescu: and then she grew up to have no tits...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.29 = 2.61 BTC [-]
dexX7: ^ simple minded psychopath
truffles: boob job ftw
Vexual: you're supposed to laugh
mircea_popescu: i can't.
deadweasel: truf gotthe extra boobs?
Vexual: didn't you get the memo?
kakobrekla: dexX7, its complex minded psycopath
mircea_popescu: psychosith
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.28701303 = 4.8792 BTC [-] {7}
dexX7: hehe
truffles: boob jobs are waste, id tell my girl no
pankkake: is it better to have more boobs, or bigger boobs?
deadweasel: agreed
jurov: better psychopath than slanderous soul, i spose
kakobrekla: up to 4 you are better with more
kakobrekla: then bigger counts
kakobrekla: same as with cores
Vexual: flee
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pankkake: !b 9
mircea_popescu: i believe 36 is a sufficient number of captcha.
kakobrekla: jurov its not like one has a choise
pankkake: !b should accept an offset arg
kakobrekla: just make a comment before like this: first 10
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kakobrekla: !b 20
jurov: no it should autobash triggered on boobs
mircea_popescu: !b should actually increase one's boobs.
truffles: more than handful is too much pankkake
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.05 = 0.55 BTC
pankkake: tried to use !b cause I don't think web submit works
pankkake: or I only submit unfunny stuff :cry:
mircea_popescu: i used web submit a coupla times
mircea_popescu: did it go to bitbucket ?!
kakobrekla: web submit should work
kakobrekla: why not
kakobrekla: lets test
kakobrekla: works
pankkake: so the "havelock has become the slut of exchanges" was deemed not funny?
pankkake: (it's the only one I have in my form history)
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kakobrekla: i see theres about 10 pending ones
kakobrekla: and one matches 'slut'
kakobrekla: ill get to it soon
kakobrekla: very fuckin busy
pankkake: oh, ok
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you should hire a sloven girl to do the moderation there
mircea_popescu: and your forum pr-ing
kakobrekla: if someone wants to help mod this , be my guest
Vexual: thats what my sommilier said,
mircea_popescu: it's sommelier
nubbins`: "put a cork in it"?
Vexual: he said that too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.05 = 2.45 BTC
Vexual: i said if you dont want two eyes, keep serving me last
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu, this bash is too specific, a girl would need years of training to chew through it
kakobrekla: its like a small irc community inside small assets community inside small btc community
kakobrekla: noone gets it.
truffles: unfunny is still unfunny ..
mircea_popescu: women are here to be tortured.
mircea_popescu: torture them.
pankkake: truffles: but the funniness of a joke often depends on its obscurity
pankkake: the less people can get it, the more funny it is
mircea_popescu: if we stoped to consider what people consider funny there'd be no humor at all.
pankkake: I think there's even a xkcd on this
kakobrekla: xkcd is not funny anymore, too mainstream!
pankkake: I was reading xkcd before it was popular
truffles: nerd humor sure
pankkake: no really. jokes between a few friends only you can get
kakobrekla: yeah well i left britney alone before you!
mircea_popescu: all humor is nerd humor. just different types of nerds.
deadweasel: when our brains are implanted into the machine, these will be archeological sites.
kanzure: git commit jokes from xkcd are too mainstream?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 18.78434400 BTC to 13`920 shares, 134945 satoshi per share
kanzure: what do you want, panes complaining about blockchain sizes?
pankkake: git is very mainstream
pankkake: I mean, fucking github
kanzure: 2 blockchainz gonna rap it up with snoop
mircea_popescu: github wow.
pankkake: so much commits
pankkake: much stars
pankkake: very social
kakobrekla: dexX7 hows the bleeding on your screens
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 4.31491714 BTC to 336`577 shares, 1282 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.05 = 0.45 BTC
dexX7: nothing notable
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00257019 = 1.2851 BTC [-] {15}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14704999 BTC [+]
truffles: i read that as Lorenzo "no" money ofc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00267941 = 0.134 BTC [+] {6}
Vexual: got me
jurov: haha
jurov: goodnight
thestringpuller: haha you got me too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.00299999 = 0.267 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 92 @ 0.00299966 = 0.276 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00299999 = 0.144 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2989 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2989 BTC [+]
Vexual: doges kill bitcointalk?
jcpham: much doge
Vexual: such tricky
nubbins`: not premine, so scrypt
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/1500997/ << check out mad javascript skills
ozbot: dpaste: #1500997
mircea_popescu: var oldonload = window.onload;
mircea_popescu: window.onload = (typeof window.onload != 'function') ? loadChartbeat : function() { oldonload(); loadChartbeat(); };
Vexual: whodat
mircea_popescu: some kid.
nubbins`: that's some interesting code
mircea_popescu: it looks like it was written by someone with such competence very security.
mircea_popescu: much trust!
nubbins`: many key, so invest
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th0G8rkhBqg << the original doge, btw, was bogart.
ozbot: Casablanca - What watch? [CC] - YouTube
pankkake: what goes in the mind of people who promote a serive before it opens
nubbins`: "i'm helping"?
truffles: buzz
nubbins`: "lel omg"?
pankkake: you get buzz and people don't come back because there was nothing
truffles: build up
Apocalyptic: be sure to sell pre-orders
mircea_popescu: it's like truffles is a repository of all the wrong notions.
mircea_popescu: what buzz lol
thestringpuller: ;;google buzz buzz
gribble: Buzz Buzz - EarthBound Wiki - This wiki stinks!: <http://earthbound.wikia.com/wiki/Buzz_Buzz>; Laurie Berkner - Bumblebee (Buzz Buzz) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwVo5E04CVQ>; Amazon.com: Buzz Buzz: Music: <http://www.amazon.com/Buzz-Laurie-Berkner/dp/B00004S36S>
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.299 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 50 @ 0.0028 = 0.14 BTC [+]
Vexual: the australian government underestimated the cost involved with burying fibre optic net to every house on the continent
Vexual: many wiretap, still fail
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.29 = 1.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.28868002 = 1.4434 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: http://i.imgur.com/58acA0m.png looks like Idiocracy even predicted inflation
Vexual: i imagine that prez is dead already
benkay: ;;ticker --market btcavg
gribble: BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 892.77, Best ask: 899.02, Bid-ask spread: 6.25000, Last trade: 896.55, 24 hour volume: 90735.97, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 910.96
Vexual: 3x all the bitcoins so australia can get faster pron
Vexual: if i paid tax id be really cross
truffles: music links plz
kakobrekla: o lol
kakobrekla: wrote to someone earlier to do more reading and less question asking
kakobrekla: got email reply now
kakobrekla: too bad it isnt a spider
Vexual: they need less bandwidth
gribble: Error: "bait" is not a valid command.
thestringpuller: ;;echo .bait
gribble: .bait
thestringpuller: ;;echo .bait
gribble: .bait
pankkake: that's a good lenght of shirt
pankkake: .bait
thestringpuller: ;;echo .bait
gribble: .bait
thestringpuller: the porn lottery
thestringpuller: there we go
Vexual: u only get one ticket and pankakke won
pankkake: not sure
Vexual: no swapsies
truffles: pankkake any new blog posts?
thestringpuller: ;;echo .bait
gribble: .bait
nubbins`: 3d printed sausage casings
truffles: forgot the addy
pankkake: oh I like that bait
Vexual: fuck pankakke, ill take that if you prefer the first
mircea_popescu: the butt in water one is by far the better.
Vexual: oh it was dickstrinbg
truffles: the blue thing on bottom right is troubling
Vexual: still down here mp
KRS1: wow she even look good in black and white
Vexual: who is it?
pankkake: vikki blows according to google images
Vexual: ill bet she does
truffles: both seem heavy on the face paint
pankkake: I'll make that makeup run down her face
Vexual: i dont think shell be jogging anywhere in those shoes mate
asciilifeform: phun phact: finally got in the mail: set of vacuum lifter tips. made of high-temp rubber by: Buna! (only ever heard that name in the context of Auschwitz III. had no idea the brand still existed!)
Vexual: whata a vacuum lifter tip? robot sonic?
asciilifeform: it's a kind of hand tool: https://vimeo.com/81028241
Vexual: is nsa building a production facility?
asciilifeform: a proper factory has robotic equivalent
asciilifeform: it's how 'surface-mount' parts get on the boards.
Vexual: i was gonna say your pics looked artisan applied
asciilifeform: photo/film is of the one in my kitchen...
asciilifeform: cheapo.
asciilifeform: the kind with squeeze bulb, you can get for a few $.
asciilifeform: but if you must align under a microscope, you need a platform.
Vexual: your smrs are neat
asciilifeform: if y're utterly broke you can use tweezers. but it's a pain.
Vexual: id trust some chinese lady with four kids to make 30/hr over a robot
asciilifeform: they use those for 'through-hole' components.
Vexual: one of her kids can do that at the same rate
Vexual: what are you building next?
asciilifeform: let that be a surprise.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.09 = 0.27 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: who doesn't like surprises
Vexual: im intrigued
asciilifeform: mp can drop hints if he feels like it.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather drop mints
ozbot: Fidelity Now Allowing Bitcoins In IRAs | Zero Hedge
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Namecoin's blockchain would be better, but the miners rejected my DVD iso images
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC
mircea_popescu: "This whole fucking thing has been embraced way to quickly and smoothly by TPTB for there to be a coincidence, folks."
asciilifeform: in the '90s, 'sci.crypt' was full of kids who swore they broke rsa. where are the kids swearing they broke ecdsa?
asciilifeform: (and will start emptying coldwallets 'any day now' naturally)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.28388885 = 1.1356 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was kinda lolling at pankkake's link.
asciilifeform: well yeah, 'TPTB know something we don't' implication
mircea_popescu: the random idiot with delusions of knowledge populating the various social media outlets has switched from "tptb will kill bitcoin", a la goldbug's bs
mircea_popescu: to "tptp embraced btc too quickly".
pankkake: I always find it weird that people believe $randomgovagency must have some super hidden tech
mircea_popescu: this change has been much too rapid and smooth to leave any room for hope said rats are actually equipped with brains too
mircea_popescu: pankkake it's like the ingrained belief of cuckolded husbands that their mistress has a really sexy cunt.
asciilifeform: the 'it's a trap!' hypothesis is alluring and can never really be disproven.
mircea_popescu: she doesn't, but if they didn't believe that they couldn't put up with their life.
pankkake: the NSA is probably as efficient as the post office
mircea_popescu: give or take, yes.
asciilifeform: the mythical Meta-NSA on the other hand!
thestringpuller: asciilifeform works fo the NSA
Vexual: i can solve the drugery of 9002 and ip protection in and hour a day
thestringpuller: BERRY PUNNY
pankkake: I'll believe it when I'll see it
pankkake: no preorders I hope!
asciilifeform: phnu phact: i applied to work at the classic nsa once
Vexual: youre not allowed to say that if you dis
thestringpuller: phnu is not unix!!!!
asciilifeform: to nobody's particular surprise, they didn't answer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they can't take walk-ins. it'd make the chinese's job too easy
Vexual: lol
Vexual: thought-crime
asciilifeform: righto. blue blood only.
mircea_popescu: some days i wish more smart people were involved in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: some other days i just wish fewer idiots cluttered about under the delusion they're involved in bitcoin
thestringpuller: isn't that the same thing?
mircea_popescu: and then there's the days like today, when i no longer comprehend what the distinction between those two wishes is
KRS1: nothing but great news on cryptographic coin lately..
Vexual: im one of millions but i want the govt
thestringpuller: "Socrates appears to have been a critic of democracy,[16] and some scholars interpret his trial as an expression of political infighting"
thestringpuller: democracy is bad mmmkay
thestringpuller: you niggas don't deserve a vote
nubbins`: democrates
ozbot: Bob Marley 'Silly Hypocrities' - YouTube
ozbot: FreeBSD Developers Will Not Trust Chip-Based Encryption - Slashdot
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> wanted to pull a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw great link.
Vexual: my german ip gave me a robin thicke samsung ad when i clicked mps repost
Vexual: nsa are just analysts?
javanomad: ;;seen unbalanced
gribble: unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 0 hours, 40 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <unbalanced> (wish I'd hit enter a half-second sooner)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you've never seen good will hunting?
Vexual: ever seen perdita durango?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it's not your fault
thestringpuller: no no no no no
thestringpuller: It's not your fault
thestringpuller: IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT
ozbot: Nelson Mandela ceremony sign language interpreter a 'fake' - World - CBC News
pankkake: wow, that's… deafist!
ozbot: Pink Floyd - Money - YouTube
nubbins`: Pink Floyd - Bitcoin
Vexual: poor fucker probably is deaf
Vexual: harder to make a coin if your deaf than blind
nubbins`: one of my roommates has no sense of smell
nubbins`: you can fart around him as much as you want
Vexual: lol
Vexual: mp cant tell green from red
nubbins`: altho when he does it, it's the perfect offensive weapon
Vexual: use it to your advantage
nubbins`: send him into crowded areas with a belly full of chili
Vexual: eek
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller hm ?
mircea_popescu: ;;bcstats
gribble: Current Blocks: 274431 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1760 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 11 hours, 25 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1035260190.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.9714
mircea_popescu: check it out, basically this is goinna happen on xmas eve
thestringpuller: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 1035260190.9 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days
thestringpuller: ;;nethash
gribble: 6400549.04237
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 86 @ 0.0029 = 0.2494 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.05 = 1.1 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;nethash
gribble: 6400549.04237
thestringpuller: Jules: [while cleaning the bloodied car] Oh man, I will never forgive your ass for this shit. This is some fucked up repugnant shit.
thestringpuller: Vincent: Jules, did you ever hear the philosophy that once a man admits that he is wrong, that he is immediately forgiven for all wrongdoings? Have you ever heard that?
thestringpuller: Jules: Get the fuck outta my face with that shit. The motherfucker who said that shit never had to pick up itty bitty pieces of skull on the account of your dumb ass.
thestringpuller: Vincent: I got a threshold, Jules, I got a threshold for the abuse that I will take. And right now I.m a fucking race-car, alright, and you got me in the red. And I.m just saying, I.m just saying that it.s fucking dangerous to have a race-car in the fucking red, that.s all. I could blow.
thestringpuller: Jules: Oh, oh, you ready to blow?
thestringpuller: Vincent: Yeah, I.m ready to blow.
thestringpuller: Jules: Well I.m a mushroom cloud layin. motherfucker, motherfucker. Every time my fingers touch brain, I.m "Superfly TNT". I.m "The Guns of the Navarone". In fact, what the fuck am I doing in the back? You the motherfucker should be on brain detail. We.re fucking switching. I.m washing the windows, and you picking up this nigga's skull.
mod6: haha
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02674999 = 0.1337 BTC [-]
pankkake: nice sum
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02674999 = 0.107 BTC [-]
Vexual: what does hmf do?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 315 @ 0.0029 = 0.9135 BTC [+]
Vexual: who runs havelock?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 300 @ 0.00295 = 0.885 BTC [+]
ozbot: "How Low" H.M.S & The R.B.C - YouTube
thestringpuller: topace the canadian goose
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2851 = 1.4255 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC
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KRS1: hah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.285 = 0.855 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: pankkake: a rien peux arrete-moi ?
pankkake: does not compute
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14290 @ 0.00088925 = 12.7074 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 554 @ 0.00088715 = 0.4915 BTC [-]
pankkake: looks like secret sell wall is working
jborkl: Secret Santa sucks
Vexual: non secret santa exists?
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